Clif High WEBBOT : Global Coastal Event

[eric charles]

So I came across Cliffs new report ,

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there are other broadcasts available , please just dont watch this one .

With all the Strange earth/solar system anomolies of the past few years , what are your thoughts .

With all these earthquakes on every Continental plate ,asteroids and comets zinging by our front door and all these X class xflares , something is afoot . Can feel it in my damn bones .

Dont pay attention to dates mentioned , forecasted dates are never accurate in my opinion .

what do you think ?




heres the original broadcast

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[Lazlo]

Clif seems always to get it "just a little" right, but is years into the project and virtually everything is overblown by several orders of magnitude. He has explained why several times in interviews. (Humans express themselves better negatively) So why not tone down the forecasts accordingly?

He has toned it down a bit in the last couple of years but is sticking to the GCE because there is language referring to 1.289 billion dead, and this came from the same place as the "300,000 dead-pushed back to a previous age" that was fulfilled with the Bande Ache quake and tsunami.

The latest update came from George Ure this morning. He related that Clif is concerned about 2pm pacific time tomorrow. There has been lots of language fill this week and the data gaps are ongoing due to DDOS attacks across the web.

On the bright side, Clif has said that there would be mass breakdowns in financial markets and the GCE would show up amid protests in the streets against the bankers. Add this to his RV validation studies putting a hard stop on things by the 26th...and we may be juuuuust about ready to put this to rest for good. Though I suspect that if nothing hapens, he'll put out another wujo and explain why everything is still in play, just that he was wrong about x,y,z.

[eric charles]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

[greybeard]

Dr Courtney Brown in a very full interview.
He makes sense to me.
As an over view-- it would appear that there is a strong possibility of an on going event starting sometime this month
A lot on his web site.
http://www.farsight.org/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5RgGNtZo9k

[astrid]

http://halfpasthuman.com/

May the 17th is the latest report... "New woo - quavers, earthquakes, Popo, Mexico City, data, gce, no fear"

download from above link...

[Lazlo]

I believe that Courtney Brown made a statement that the Meteorite results were fulfilled after the Russion bolide explosion and he felt that the June 1, 2013 predictions were now off the table. Clif did a couple of wujo's explaining why he thought Courtney was wrong on Feb 20 and 22.

http://halfpasthuman.com/clifswujo.html

Just scroll down and they are easy to find.

[eric charles]

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

[daci]

In two hours... Courtney Brown will be on Blogtalkradio... with James Gilliland...
At 11:00

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freeassociationradio/2013/05/24/friday-farcast-courtney-brown-james-gilliland

[marlowe]

Webbots sees a demonstration in Olympia ,Washington being disrurpted by the Pacific
North West megaquake...Tomorrow there is a demonstration against Monsanto in Olympia ,Wash.....
So we should probably know by tomorrow afternoon {late} if it happened.....in about 30 hours from Now..

Webbots sees the Global Coastal event happening within a short time after the mega quake ,or at the same time as the mega quake...

Webbots sees the GCE killing over a Billion people in a short period of time....

This GCE could come about as a result of the Pacific plate cracking,,,we are seeing a swarm of quakes off shore of Russia in the past few days...

If I lived in Vancouver ,Portland or Seattle I would leave tomorrow morning and travel a hundred miles east until Sunday morning....

Also Southern California is not a safe place to live: IMHO...

[eric charles]

I hope to high hell everyone is wrong about this GCE , but it has happened before folks .

Check out Klaus Dona , and Graham Hancocks' work and if you start putting the pieces to the puzzle together .....................

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In two hours... Courtney Brown will be on Blogtalkradio... with James Gilliland...
At 11:00

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freeassociationradio/2013/05/24/friday-farcast-courtney-brown-james-gilliland

Thanks I will be tuning in for sure

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Webbots sees a demonstration in Olympia ,Washington being disrurpted by the Pacific
North West megequake...Tomorrow there is a demonstration against Monsanto in Olympia ,Wash.....
So we should probably know by tomorrow afternoon {late} if it happened.....in about 30 hours from Now..

Webbots sees the Global Coastal event happening within a short time after the mega quake ,or at the same time as the mega quake...

Webbots sees the GCE killing over a Billion people in a short period of time....

This GCE could come about as a resultof the Pacific plate cracking,,,we are seeing a swarm of quakes off shore of Russia in the past few days...

If I lived in Vancouver ,Portland or Seattle I would leave tomorrow morning and travel a hundred miles east until Sunday morning....

Southern California is not a safe place to live IMHO...


BINGO , my exact thoughts , I live out on the Canadian Sheild , and we are getting quakes here too , not big , but this is RARE , we are on the most solid land mass in the world ! not supposed to be happening here

[marlowe]

we just a few minutes ago had a 6.8 mag quake off shore Russia,,,lots of quakes in the last 2 days...

[jiminii]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...
well if I get us a few star children recognizing who and what they are ... the entire RV might find it turns out the way we want it .. not the way someone is saying because it happened in the past it will happen in the future ...

the part of predicting the future for a spirit being is predicting what he wants it to be and making it happen
get enough of us doing it ... changes the entire scenario ... you can be cause or effect ... it is up to you

in fact I have literally caused more weathermen to eat crow with their predictions because I decided what I wanted to happen

jim

[we-R-one]

It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

[eric charles]

It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

Well things happen weather we like it or not , I would much rather be prepared then be caught with my pants down .
If the earth is gonna blow up , I dont think burrying our heads in the sand is going to do much good

[marlowe]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...

jim
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is not how remote viewing works..google it & learn something...

[marlowe]

It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

China has the best quake prediction system around,,,& they have saved a lot of lives by predicting quakes in certain areas....I've never bought into the above idea posted by We-R-one...

[we-R-one]

It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

Well things happen weather we like it or not , I would much rather be prepared then be caught with my pants down .
If the earth is gonna blow up , I dont think burrying our heads in the sand is going to do much good

It's not about burying our heads in the sand, if you knew me, you would not walk away with that impression. I feel the more we focus on such events we are basically assisting in our own demise. The studies are there to show this, and yet we keep repeating the same patterns over and over again...I just don't get it. When are we going to change how we think?

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Wow, so Marlowe you don't believe in the power of intention? Interesting.....

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There has been much discussion on the forum in regards to power of intention in various forms.

[eric charles]

Well anyhow , I am ready for whatever comes my way . I will not be leaving my home in any event . I have my generator tons of food , Guns and tons of ammo , A well prepared boat , tons of knowledge of plumbing heating electrical , have many many spare parts for all my mechanical devices , and a know how to fix pretty much anything mechanical . I am ready for whatever comes my way .

I have prepared for things without even knowing why . Hard to explain , A few years back , i just started without any reason to just buy all sorts of stuff , not junk , but needful items , is it for this event or something down the line , I have no clue , but one thing for certain . After hearing clifs webbot report of late , things are starting to appear why I have prepared , maybe just my subcontious pshyche , who knows .

The 64,000 $ question is , are you prepared ?

[jiminii]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...

jim
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is not how remote viewing works..google it & learn something...

I saw this link but I can see anything that says what is the latest report

jim

[Wind]

We certainly can pay attention to predictions like this, but we should focus on and hope for the best outcome.

[eric charles]

It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

Well things happen weather we like it or not , I would much rather be prepared then be caught with my pants down .
If the earth is gonna blow up , I dont think burrying our heads in the sand is going to do much good

It's not about burying our heads in the sand, if you knew me, you would not walk away with that impression. I feel the more we focus on such events we are basically assisting in our own demise. The studies are there to show this, and yet we keep repeating the same patterns over and over again...I just don't get it. When are we going to change how we think?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Wow, so Marlowe you don't believe in the power of intention? Interesting.....

¤=[Post Update]=¤

There has been much discussion on the forum in regards to power of intention in various forms.


I understand you 100% we-r-one , But im rather the type of person , not to think negatively nor positively , but to think realistically . I did not mean to offend you in any way

[we-R-one]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...
well if I get us a few star children recognizing who and what they are ... the entire RV might find it turns out the way we want it .. not the way someone is saying because it happened in the past it will happen in the future ...

the part of predicting the future for a spirit being is predicting what he wants it to be and making it happen
get enough of us doing it ... changes the entire scenario ... you can be cause or effect ... it is up to you

in fact I have literally caused more weathermen to eat crow with their predictions because I decided what I wanted to happen

jim

Yes, this is the power of intention I'm referring to, and I know it well.... and yes I am a star seed.

[marlowe]

I believe in the power of intention on a small scale.....But I doubt if enough people on this planet are evolved enough NOW to stop a mega quake....

we don't have long to wait......

[eric charles]

I believe in the power of intention on a small scale.....But I doubt if enough people on this planet are evolved enough NOW to stop a mega quake....

we don't have long to wait......

People arent even evolved enough to get off the couch and critically think , let alone avert a global catastrophe . If there is an event , it is certainly gonna put a boot into all Couch potatoes asses for sure

[jiminii]

Well anyhow , I am ready for whatever comes my way . I will not be leaving my home in any event . I have my generator tons of food , Guns and tons of ammo , A well prepared boat , tons of knowledge of plumbing heating electrical , have many many spare parts for all my mechanical devices , and a know how to fix pretty much anything mechanical . I am ready for whatever comes my way .

I have prepared for things without even knowing why . Hard to explain , A few years back , i just started without any reason to just buy all sorts of stuff , not junk , but needful items , is it for this event or something down the line , I have no clue , but one thing for certain . After hearing clifs webbot report of late , things are starting to appear why I have prepared , maybe just my subcontious pshyche , who knows .

The 64,000 $ question is , are you prepared ?

the plate I am on is solid and will not break up and there is plenty of food growing around here ,,, with villagers that don't even need electricity to survive and they don't need to be in any specific location too ....

the thing is this ... if I could tell my whole story ... you can see a being only gets bigger and better ... and more powerful ,.. so I also set myself up for this ... I am looking for others who like to share this game ...

it is the most powerful game i have ever played and I think we can pull it off .... you see ... many times I have been around others and said something that sparked them just being near me and hearing what I said ... and I could feel they were contributing to what I was doing only makes it more powerful .. doesn't matter what the body thinks .. only matters what the (I am going to just say this viewpoint is the I AM) .. I AM that is running the show and their I AM also sees it ... even though the bodies don't see it ... makes things happen ... I also do most things by myself but I can get a bigger and better response from others helping even if they don't believe it .. the being inside of them KNOWS IT.

you get it?

jim

[we-R-one]

Marlowe, check out the Goes satellite studies. You probably haven't been exposed at great lengths to understand. This is not a criticism, cause so much information that should be public knowledge isn't and for various other reasons truth is being hidden which in turn can unknowingly cloud our judgment.

[Wind]

Sometimes I think that humanity needs a serious wake up call. The only way to save ourselves from the Orwellian society is to return to the old ways. We should respect nature, not destroy it.

[jiminii]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...
well if I get us a few star children recognizing who and what they are ... the entire RV might find it turns out the way we want it .. not the way someone is saying because it happened in the past it will happen in the future ...

the part of predicting the future for a spirit being is predicting what he wants it to be and making it happen
get enough of us doing it ... changes the entire scenario ... you can be cause or effect ... it is up to you

in fact I have literally caused more weathermen to eat crow with their predictions because I decided what I wanted to happen

jim

Yes, this is the power of intention I'm referring to, and I know it well.... and yes I am a star seed.

wow let's do it ... I got chills running through the body ...

jim

[jiminii]

I believe in the power of intention on a small scale.....But I doubt if enough people on this planet are evolved enough NOW to stop a mega quake....

we don't have long to wait......

you would be surprised at what only a handful can do ... I stopped a war in Thailand ... did you read that and all the beings involved .. knew they were somehow involved ... when it was over ... and they went back to their old lives ... they would go back to their doubt think

jim

[Earth Angel]

how does knowing about it or focusing on it help ??



It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

Well things happen weather we like it or not , I would much rather be prepared then be caught with my pants down .
If the earth is gonna blow up , I dont think burrying our heads in the sand is going to do much good

[we-R-one]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

[jiminii]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...
well if I get us a few star children recognizing who and what they are ... the entire RV might find it turns out the way we want it .. not the way someone is saying because it happened in the past it will happen in the future ...

the part of predicting the future for a spirit being is predicting what he wants it to be and making it happen
get enough of us doing it ... changes the entire scenario ... you can be cause or effect ... it is up to you

in fact I have literally caused more weathermen to eat crow with their predictions because I decided what I wanted to happen

jim

Yes, this is the power of intention I'm referring to, and I know it well.... and yes I am a star seed.

well I got one star seed ... anyone else out there want to join us?

jim

[we-R-one]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...
well if I get us a few star children recognizing who and what they are ... the entire RV might find it turns out the way we want it .. not the way someone is saying because it happened in the past it will happen in the future ...

the part of predicting the future for a spirit being is predicting what he wants it to be and making it happen
get enough of us doing it ... changes the entire scenario ... you can be cause or effect ... it is up to you

in fact I have literally caused more weathermen to eat crow with their predictions because I decided what I wanted to happen

jim

Yes, this is the power of intention I'm referring to, and I know it well.... and yes I am a star seed.

wow let's do it ... I got chills running through the body ...

jim

It's amazing when one comes to this understanding... and it's not just understanding it's actually experiencing the moment with your own eyes or lack there of depending upon what your experience may be. It is our belief systems that enslave humanity and withhold us from achieving endless possibilities. For those who continue down this same road dare I might say they find themselves forever living in the world of duality whether it's on this planet or another.

[eric charles]

Well anyhow , I am ready for whatever comes my way . I will not be leaving my home in any event . I have my generator tons of food , Guns and tons of ammo , A well prepared boat , tons of knowledge of plumbing heating electrical , have many many spare parts for all my mechanical devices , and a know how to fix pretty much anything mechanical . I am ready for whatever comes my way .

I have prepared for things without even knowing why . Hard to explain , A few years back , i just started without any reason to just buy all sorts of stuff , not junk , but needful items , is it for this event or something down the line , I have no clue , but one thing for certain . After hearing clifs webbot report of late , things are starting to appear why I have prepared , maybe just my subcontious pshyche , who knows .

The 64,000 $ question is , are you prepared ?

the plate I am on is solid and will not break up and there is plenty of food growing around here ,,, with villagers that don't even need electricity to survive and they don't need to be in any specific location too ....

the thing is this ... if I could tell my whole story ... you can see a being only gets bigger and better ... and more powerful ,.. so I also set myself up for this ... I am looking for others who like to share this game ...

it is the most powerful game i have ever played and I think we can pull it off .... you see ... many times I have been around others and said something that sparked them just being near me and hearing what I said ... and I could feel they were contributing to what I was doing only makes it more powerful .. doesn't matter what the body thinks .. only matters what the (I am going to just say this viewpoint is the I AM) .. I AM that is running the show and their I AM also sees it ... even though the bodies don't see it ... makes things happen ... I also do most things by myself but I can get a bigger and better response from others helping even if they don't believe it .. the being inside of them KNOWS IT.

you get it?

jim

Very glad to see someone else getting off the couch and having the knowlegde in various aspects of challenges and preparedness .

My latest challenge is getting a good garden set up , Im done tilling and the the planning , but the weather here in Canada at the moment does not permit planting . I have nice rich black earth soil but too damn cold and rainy and damp to plant .
I also have two beautiful Europeean plum trees , they give off approximately 800 plums each . Ive read up alot about fruit trees and wanted to try Pear trees and a nice Spartan apple tree , seems they are the best for mould and insect resistance .
I just bought a book that is specifically tailored for my area by Douglas Green called Guide to Canadian Vegetable gardening , very informative and i would suggest to anyone living in Canada

[Delight]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

What i noticed and read also is that this "reality" is very accommodating for the simultaneous experience of very very many different kinds of experiences. So, we each are very free and very responsible by our application of feeling and thought to experience different events and events differently. This is a basic lesson to be learned and many of us have learned and apply this lesson. To a certain extent, it involves focus and belief and certain "laws".

To a certain extent, I think in this mode, one will be part of the collective experience even with some mitigating factors... so maybe survive where others do not etc. It is very hard work to keep that focused.

What is quite amazing to me is an even finer lesson for intention: To know that all is well and that magic and miracles and ideas happening and things occurring way beyond my capacity is possible when i let them happen...not try to predict or control and not even try to "save my life"....its a place that I cannot even imagine but that can be allowed....

This stage of lesson seems to me to be about accepting being a vehicle for the UNKNOWN.
As I said, this "earth" can accommodate many kinds of expression. "My" thoughts and limited range in this 3D band have made my experience VERY repetitive.
A presence that keeps me feeling very at ease, seems to make it possible to let go for the intention that an UNKNOWN be possible.

[jiminii]

Also i forgot to mention , he worked with a remote viewing institute call Farsight intitute

read their latest report

http://farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

ok i kinda get the idea of remote viewing looking at past events to predict the future ...
well if I get us a few star children recognizing who and what they are ... the entire RV might find it turns out the way we want it .. not the way someone is saying because it happened in the past it will happen in the future ...

the part of predicting the future for a spirit being is predicting what he wants it to be and making it happen
get enough of us doing it ... changes the entire scenario ... you can be cause or effect ... it is up to you

in fact I have literally caused more weathermen to eat crow with their predictions because I decided what I wanted to happen

jim

Yes, this is the power of intention I'm referring to, and I know it well.... and yes I am a star seed.

wow let's do it ... I got chills running through the body ...

jim

It's amazing when one comes to this understanding... and it's not just understanding it's actually experiencing the moment with your own eyes or lack there of depending upon what you experience may be. It is our belief systems that enslave humanity and withhold us from achieving endless possibilities. For those who continue down this same road dare I might say they find themselves forever living in the world of duality whether it's on this planet or another.

ok we are coming up to cause ... don't worry about damaging anything .... you just have to pick the right words in your intention

if you say going ... this is going to happen ... it doesn't happen .. because the word going puts it in the future so it keeps going into the future and never happens
so you must say the end thing ... what the result will be .... and when we want it to happen
we decide it is NOW .... this is the shortest time possible .. now you might have a communication lag ... this is from the time you decide it which is NOW until it happens
\
so we decide the earthquake fault line is stable from now ... no damage no deaths

then cancel all your counter intentions ... "oh I can't do that ... maybe someone else .." "oh I have no power ,only god has ' "oh others have all the power not me:
all of them not true
decide you are senior to any counter intention from anyone anywhere and assume this beingness ....I am that powerful .. everything is safe and stable

that's how it works

jim

[we-R-one]

Listen guys...I just have to say this...as I see a pattern on this forum and I'm trying to be patient, but I'm human and I do get frustrated. Are we not on Avalon because we seek the truth? So why is it, when some of us, try to share the truth, many want nothing to do with it? This baffles and when I'm in a good mood sometimes amuses me. And I hope for those who have yet to understand, will eventually see the amusement I do in the same manner when they come to the same realization. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you, because I was once programmed and on that hamster wheel to no where. I have shared much personal information in a very public format so all can learn from the experiences I bring to the table. I don't share for the point of talking about myself, I share as to demonstrate how you look within for the truth so you have examples to consider that might aid in your own spiritual growth.

The power of intent is very real....and you might be surprised to find, when you reflect back on past experiences that it was your own power of intention and the very reason for the outcome of the remembered event. It's because you did not have the frame of reference to identify why the occurrence took place in the manner that it did whether it be negative or positive. Change the way you think, and you will see the world in a different light.

[Lazlo]

RE: Intent

Yes, you can change the subtle course of events

No, I do no not believe that you can change the course of an incoming asteroid or change the laws of physics and remove pressure from a fault line.

I posted earlier that I was feeling better about the GCE not fulfilling because it wouldn't be happening against a backdrop of economic unrest...

Then I had the realization that if the GCE is actually a process, as Clif has repeatedly stated, then a big west coast EQ could be the trigger which sends the economy into a tailspin. Then the other events would unfold against this backdrop :twitch:

Time will tell...

[marielle]

Try not to be discouraged by these types of threads or those here who are fascinated by the negative...here is a quote from Convoluted Universe Book 3 (Dolores Cannon) from someone under hypnosis:



D: But I know many people create very negative things.

T: It is given to them to dream as they will. There are no limits, even if your limit is your own. You see, if you choose to be limited, that too is your choice. Again, negativity is but a phase. There can only be God. And yet when you close a certain avenue to the greater understanding, then you begin to limit that which you would accept. Then you accept that there can be a limit. Again, it is but a choice that is made and that is allowed to happen, because creation will create. That is a gift of God.

...

I say to all beings of the Earth plane - I say this from my God Source - if you do not absorb that which you accept to be negative into your thought form, it cannot manifest in this place that you have been given to change. You are God. You are God! And yet, you will not manifest that part of your created self. It is given to you to manifest, to manifest your God beingness. (Almost shouting) Open your God self, I say to you! Open your God self, and allow the light to enter.

[we-R-one]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

What i noticed and read also is that this "reality" is very accommodating for the simultaneous experience of very very many different kinds of experiences. So, we each are very free and very responsible by our application of feeling and thought to experience different events and events differently. This is a basic lesson to be learned and many of us have learned and apply this lesson. To a certain extent, it involves focus and belief and certain "laws".

To a certain extent, I think in this mode, one will be part of the collective experience even with some mitigating factors... so maybe survive where others do not etc. It is very hard work to keep that focused.

What is quite amazing to me is an even finer lesson for intention: To know that all is well and that magic and miracles and ideas happening and things occurring way beyond my capacity is possible when i let them happen...not try to predict or control and not even try to "save my life"....its a place that I cannot even imagine but that can be allowed....

This stage of lesson seems to me to be about accepting being a vehicle for the UNKNOWN.
As I said, this "earth" can accommodate many kinds of expression. "My" thoughts and limited range in this 3D band have made my experience VERY repetitive.
A presence that keeps me feeling very at ease, seems to make it possible to let go for the intention that an UNKNOWN be possible.

Yes I agree Delight. Though I do participate in activities that are waking people up as part of my 3D role, I also realize that 'all is well' no matter how horrific things may become. There is no fear as I have come to accept that we each have our own realities to experience, good, bad or indifferent, which is the whole point as to why some of us are here.

[markpierre]

So what's 'good' and what's 'bad' is determined by your own fear of death? Or as little as maintaining a lifestyle?
Gosh, I just got that new SUV, I'd hate to lose it in a flood. A global coastal event would ruin my holiday plans.
Losing phone reception is a 'disaster' for most of the western world. The garbage disposal is jammed.

You want a 'new' humanity. How 'new' are you willing for that to be yourself? Who ARE you really? Vulnerable to death and disaster?
Or invulnerable. Wouldn't you like to find that out?

How willing are you to participate wholly and truly in whatever needs to occur? What would you do? How would you behave?
What are you most afraid of?
That's largely the history of man and the 'effects' that we live in, man shaking his fist at God and declaring 'I want it thus!'
I want a bridge there, and I'm gonna dam up that river to run my appliances.
And then you get what you want. More of nothing. More of the same. More of the old. A better version of old. More convenient.

No, you really want it the way it needs to be for the maximal good of absolutely everything involved, in space/time and out.
Whether you know it or you like it, or not. Keep your 'intention' there.

How much do you regret the the things in your life that you regarded as 'mistakes' or 'accidents', seemingly preventable, or not,
but that changed you so deeply and fundamentally, that you seemed to have been reborn from the experience?

Don't undervalue catharsis, on any scale. Let the earth do what she needs to do to cleanse herself. Our best efforts,
no matter how well 'intentioned', are directed and driven by our own desire to avoid confrontation. That's how the ego functions.
If you think you've usurped your own ego, well then you can discover a bit about that in the way you view the prospect of hardship.

You won't stop the earth from changing. It has to change. Whether that's relatively gently and minimal, or cathartically, isn't your business.
Finding and staying centered, and true, and willing, and helpful, is your business. That's the only use you have for this planet.
To learn those simple little personal things. That's not so much. You should be able to handle that.

[eric charles]

Marielle , if you do not like my Thread becasue you think I am being negative , please feel free to not POST on it .

[jiminii]

So what's 'good' and what's 'bad' is determined by your own fear of death? Or as little as maintaining a lifestyle?
Gosh, I just got that new SUV, I'd hate to lose it in a flood. A global coastal event would ruin my holiday plans.
Losing phone reception is a 'disaster' for most of the western world. The garbage disposal is jammed.

You want a 'new' humanity. How 'new' are you willing for that to be yourself? Who ARE you really? Vulnerable to death and disaster?
Or invulnerable. Wouldn't you like to find that out?

How willing are you to participate wholly and truly in whatever needs to occur? What would you do? How would you behave?
What are you most afraid of?
That's largely the history of man and the 'effects' that we live in, man shaking his fist at God and declaring 'I want it thus!'
I want a bridge there, and I'm gonna dam up that river to run my appliances.
And then you get what you want. More of nothing. More of the same. More of the old. A better version of old. More convenient.

No, you really want it the way it needs to be for the maximal good of absolutely everything involved, in space/time and out.
Whether you know it or you like it, or not. Keep your 'intention' there.

How much do you regret the the things in your life that you regarded as 'mistakes' or 'accidents', seemingly preventable, or not,
but that changed you so deeply and fundamentally, that you seemed to have been reborn from the experience?

Don't undervalue catharsis, on any scale. Let the earth do what she needs to do to cleanse herself. Our best efforts,
no matter how well 'intentioned', are directed and driven by our own desire to avoid confrontation. That's how the ego functions.
If you think you've usurped your own ego, well then you can discover a bit about that in the way you view the prospect of hardship.

You won't stop the earth from changing. It has to change. Whether that's relatively gently and minimal, or cathartically, isn't your business.
Finding and staying centered, and true, and willing, and helpful, is your business. That's the only use you have for this planet.
To learn those simple little personal things. That's not so much. You should be able to handle that.

the people in the stars that are around our planet have the technology for cleaning the oceans and the environment in a days time ... remember their time is 20 or more hours to one of our hours ... they will put a mile high pile of garbage on the desert create a portal and send it somewhere else ,.. don't worry about it ... when we finally get in trade with them they will be sending us products back through the portal ... so you don't need to have your attention on cleaning mother earth .. they have the tech up there ... the problem is they can not do it until this planet becomes part of the government up there ... that is what everyone is waiting for ... all we have to do is prevent all the disasters that the cabal are creating so they can make you believe they are your only salvation,.., they are not .. if we open up our powers and we do it wisely ... those in the stars will know who is in charge .. and they won't want to tangle with us and that will be the end of the cabal

jim

[ghostrider]

for future learning in my incarnations , I must embrace what this earth lifetime throws at me, the good , the great, the bad, the worst, all of it... if I don't it will keep throwing them until I learn to experience all of all ... so a global coastal event ? bring it, a non event ? bring it. solar flare, war, flood, bring it, bring it now so I don't have to experience it again in my next life ...maybe I survive, maybe I die, but I must experience all sides of all, then I can evolve to the next level, and start all over again ... it's not what happens to us that's important, IT'S HOW WE REACT ... it builds character ... the penny only shines when you keep rubbing on it gently ...perfection takes time...

[eric charles]

So what's 'good' and what's 'bad' is determined by your own fear of death? Or as little as maintaining a lifestyle?
Gosh, I just got that new SUV, I'd hate to lose it in a flood. A global coastal event would ruin my holiday plans.
Losing phone reception is a 'disaster' for most of the western world. The garbage disposal is jammed.

You want a 'new' humanity. How 'new' are you willing for that to be yourself? Who ARE you really? Vulnerable to death and disaster?
Or invulnerable. Wouldn't you like to find that out?

How willing are you to participate wholly and truly in whatever needs to occur? What would you do? How would you behave?
What are you most afraid of?
That's largely the history of man and the 'effects' that we live in, man shaking his fist at God and declaring 'I want it thus!'
I want a bridge there, and I'm gonna dam up that river to run my appliances.
And then you get what you want. More of nothing. More of the same. More of the old. A better version of old. More convenient.

No, you really want it the way it needs to be for the maximal good of absolutely everything involved, in space/time and out.
Whether you know it or you like it, or not. Keep your 'intention' there.

How much do you regret the the things in your life that you regarded as 'mistakes' or 'accidents', seemingly preventable, or not,
but that changed you so deeply and fundamentally, that you seemed to have been reborn from the experience?

Don't undervalue catharsis, on any scale. Let the earth do what she needs to do to cleanse herself. Our best efforts,
no matter how well 'intentioned', are directed and driven by our own desire to avoid confrontation. That's how the ego functions.
If you think you've usurped your own ego, well then you can discover a bit about that in the way you view the prospect of hardship.

You won't stop the earth from changing. It has to change. Whether that's relatively gently and minimal, or cathartically, isn't your business.
Finding and staying centered, and true, and willing, and helpful, is your business. That's the only use you have for this planet.
To learn those simple little personal things. That's not so much. You should be able to handle that.

the people in the stars that are around our planet have the technology for cleaning the oceans and the environment in a days time ... remember their time is 20 or more hours to one of our hours ... they will put a mile high pile of garbage on the desert create a portal and send it somewhere else ,.. don't worry about it ... when we finally get in trade with them they will be sending us products back through the portal ... so you don't need to have your attention on cleaning mother earth .. they have the tech up there ... the problem is they can not do it until this planet becomes part of the government up there ... that is what everyone is waiting for ... all we have to do is prevent all the disasters that the cabal are creating so they can make you believe they are your only salvation,.., they are not .. if we open up our powers and we do it wisely ... those in the stars will know who is in charge .. and they won't want to tangle with us and that will be the end of the cabal

jim


Ok i understand they have the technology to clean up , but WE are responbile for our actions , and until we start acting in a civilized manner , caring for eachother and the like . Take for instance , we cannot even get along with our next door neighbour , we bomb the **** out of defenceless countries , do you really think e.t wants to come here and help us . I seriously doubt that . If E.T wanted to be known they were out there they would have landed very long ago on the White Houses front lawn LOOONG AGO .

We are so backwards and lost as a civilization , beyond even repair in my opinion , , when facebook and electronic devices have taken a grip on our youth (not my kids though ) we are F*CKED , totally and utterly F*CKED . They will not come and help and even make an appearance til we get our affairs in order

[markpierre]

the people in the stars that are around our planet have the technology for cleaning the oceans and the environment in a days time ... remember their time is 20 or more hours to one of our hours ... they will put a mile high pile of garbage on the desert create a portal and send it somewhere else ,.. don't worry about it ... when we finally get in trade with them they will be sending us products back through the portal ... so you don't need to have your attention on cleaning mother earth .. they have the tech up there ... the problem is they can not do it until this planet becomes part of the government up there ... that is what everyone is waiting for ... all we have to do is prevent all the disasters that the cabal are creating so they can make you believe they are your only salvation,.., they are not .. if we open up our powers and we do it wisely ... those in the stars will know who is in charge .. and they won't want to tangle with us and that will be the end of the cabal

jim

Clean up your inner world. That could well be cathartic. Your outer world will follow. In the meanwhile, the outer world will be helping you.

[jiminii]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

What i noticed and read also is that this "reality" is very accommodating for the simultaneous experience of very very many different kinds of experiences. So, we each are very free and very responsible by our application of feeling and thought to experience different events and events differently. This is a basic lesson to be learned and many of us have learned and apply this lesson. To a certain extent, it involves focus and belief and certain "laws".

To a certain extent, I think in this mode, one will be part of the collective experience even with some mitigating factors... so maybe survive where others do not etc. It is very hard work to keep that focused.

What is quite amazing to me is an even finer lesson for intention: To know that all is well and that magic and miracles and ideas happening and things occurring way beyond my capacity is possible when i let them happen...not try to predict or control and not even try to "save my life"....its a place that I cannot even imagine but that can be allowed....

This stage of lesson seems to me to be about accepting being a vehicle for the UNKNOWN.
As I said, this "earth" can accommodate many kinds of expression. "My" thoughts and limited range in this 3D band have made my experience VERY repetitive.
A presence that keeps me feeling very at ease, seems to make it possible to let go for the intention that an UNKNOWN be possible.

Yes I agree Delight. Though I do participate in activities that are waking people up as part of my 3D role, I also realize that 'all is well' no matter how horrific things may become. There is no fear as I have come to accept that we each have our own realities to experience, good, bad or indifferent, which is the whole point as to why some of us are here.

that is right ... that is the one sure thing I am aware of ... all is well .... I've seen all the predictions in the since 2010 not happen as they were expected .. nothing too damaging

jim

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What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

What i noticed and read also is that this "reality" is very accommodating for the simultaneous experience of very very many different kinds of experiences. So, we each are very free and very responsible by our application of feeling and thought to experience different events and events differently. This is a basic lesson to be learned and many of us have learned and apply this lesson. To a certain extent, it involves focus and belief and certain "laws".

To a certain extent, I think in this mode, one will be part of the collective experience even with some mitigating factors... so maybe survive where others do not etc. It is very hard work to keep that focused.

What is quite amazing to me is an even finer lesson for intention: To know that all is well and that magic and miracles and ideas happening and things occurring way beyond my capacity is possible when i let them happen...not try to predict or control and not even try to "save my life"....its a place that I cannot even imagine but that can be allowed....

This stage of lesson seems to me to be about accepting being a vehicle for the UNKNOWN.
As I said, this "earth" can accommodate many kinds of expression. "My" thoughts and limited range in this 3D band have made my experience VERY repetitive.
A presence that keeps me feeling very at ease, seems to make it possible to let go for the intention that an UNKNOWN be possible.

Yes I agree Delight. Though I do participate in activities that are waking people up as part of my 3D role, I also realize that 'all is well' no matter how horrific things may become. There is no fear as I have come to accept that we each have our own realities to experience, good, bad or indifferent, which is the whole point as to why some of us are here.

that is right ... that is the one sure thing I am aware of ... all is well .... I've seen all the predictions in the since 2010 not happen as they were expected .. nothing too damaging

jim

I think this star child has the same viewpoint as me .... I'll go with that

jim

[jiminii]

how does knowing about it or focusing on it help ??



It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

Well things happen weather we like it or not , I would much rather be prepared then be caught with my pants down .
If the earth is gonna blow up , I dont think burrying our heads in the sand is going to do much good

the thing is I haven't been doing anything about it because I KNOW ... we won and I just walk through all the predictions since 2010 and I KNOW ... this will not happen as long as I am here ...I also know the others that are helping are here too ... all over this planet whether they are aware of it or not ... they could be farmers that never read the news ... but they are part of the collective and they are holding the place safe ... I thought if I stepped back into this game I will get clobbered by all the negativity .. but some miracle happened when I came here ... and ... well .. I can finally say what is .. and me .. and for the first time in my life get some agreement

ALL IS WELL believe me ... do you want to be the one that didn't contribute to this fantastic future we are going in

there are 2 types of people ... those who need to be contributed to ... for their survival
and those who need to contribute to others ...

of course I have to do a job ... but I contribute my earnings to help others ... and I do a job that helps others .. I got out of aerospace because I didn't want to contribute to creating weapons anymore .. and I found a more sane game to play

but that is me

jim

[eric charles]

how does knowing about it or focusing on it help ??



It's too bad that the masses don't understand the power of intention. I have to ask, if we keep putting so much focus on these disasters, are we not actually assisting in the creation of such events? It makes me think that maybe these type of activities are more dangerous than we can even imagine, just a thought. I do remember reading about studies who's results were influenced by the thought process of those actually conducting the study, so that's the basis for my comment. I know this to be true through my own personal experiences, but since they were subjective I have no way of showing actual proof. It's the very reason why I will not put much focus on such threads as I understand the power of intention. No offense to the posters on here, but I just felt it needed to be pointed out.

Well things happen weather we like it or not , I would much rather be prepared then be caught with my pants down .
If the earth is gonna blow up , I dont think burrying our heads in the sand is going to do much good

the thing is I haven't been doing anything about it because I KNOW ... we won and I just walk through all the predictions since 2010 and I KNOW ... this will not happen as long as I am here ...I also know the others that are helping are here too ... all over this planet whether they are aware of it or not ... they could be farmers that never read the news ... but they are part of the collective and they are holding the place safe ... I thought if I stepped back into this game I will get clobbered by all the negativity .. but some miracle happened when I came here ... and ... well .. I can finally say what is .. and me .. and for the first time in my life get some agreement

ALL IS WELL believe me ... do you want to be the one that didn't contribute to this fantastic future we are going in

there are 2 types of people ... those who need to be contributed to ... for their survival
and those who need to contribute to others ...

of course I have to do a job ... but I contribute my earnings to help others ... and I do a job that helps others .. I got out of aerospace because I didn't want to contribute to creating weapons anymore .. and I found a more sane game to play

but that is me

jim

I would help others , but I have enough going on with my family and things at home that i have no spare time whatsover for anything else , psst , only reason i am on the net today is becasue its pouring rain out and the baby is sick , I needed a day off lol

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Plus , when you mention survival stuff and things to people , they think you are absolutly ludicris so , I keep to myself about these things !

[syrwong]

It is getting eerie. Closing in on the deadline, there is a lot of seismic activity going on in Northern California area, they are growing stronger.

DATE/TIME REGION MAGNITUDE DEPTH (in km) SOURCE DETAIL
Friday May 24 2013, 18:49:54 UTC 6 minutes ago Northern California 2.1 6.2 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:48:31 UTC 8 minutes ago Northern California 3.2 0.1 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:47:14 UTC 9 minutes ago Northern California 2.2 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:43:19 UTC 13 minutes ago Northern California 2.8 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:39:02 UTC 17 minutes ago Northern California 2.2 1.3 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:31:26 UTC 25 minutes ago Northern California 1.8 21.6 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:30:16 UTC 26 minutes ago Northern California 2.3 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:26:07 UTC 30 minutes ago Atacama, Chile 3.3 60.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:22:06 UTC 34 minutes ago Northern California 2.9 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:21:28 UTC 35 minutes ago Northern California 1.7 6.2 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:16:58 UTC 39 minutes ago Northern California 2.6 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 18:16:44 UTC 40 minutes ago Southern California 1.2 5.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:52:37 UTC 64 minutes ago Southern Mid-atlantic Ridge 5.1 33.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:52:29 UTC 64 minutes ago southern Mid-Atlantic Ridge 5.1 10.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:50:09 UTC 66 minutes ago Northern California 1.8 2.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:43:09 UTC 73 minutes ago Atacama, Chile 2.9 2.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:36:46 UTC 80 minutes ago Northern California 2.8 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:34:36 UTC 82 minutes ago Northern California 2.1 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:32:13 UTC 84 minutes ago Northern California 1.7 0.8 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:28:00 UTC 88 minutes ago Northern California 2.3 7.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:26:29 UTC 90 minutes ago Northern California 2.1 3.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:25:26 UTC 91 minutes ago Northern California 2.1 0.9 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:07:02 UTC 109 minutes ago Southern Alaska 1.4 67.8 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 17:01:45 UTC 115 minutes ago Central Alaska 1.0 9.3 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:57:37 UTC 119 minutes ago Northern California 1.8 6.3 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:57:37 UTC 119 minutes ago Northern California 1.8 6.3 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:54:26 UTC 2 hours ago Offshore Coquimbo, Chile 3.0 45.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:49:47 UTC 2 hours ago San Juan, Argentina 3.5 116.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:46:15 UTC 2 hours ago Tarapaca, Chile 2.9 105.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:42:05 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 2.3 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:37:39 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 2.2 0.8 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:33:26 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 2.4 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:32:20 UTC 2 hours ago Southern California 2.1 7.9 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:29:57 UTC 2 hours ago Central Alaska 1.3 35.2 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:29:53 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 2.5 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:29:10 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 2.6 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:22:23 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 1.9 0.1 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:17:14 UTC 2 hours ago Antofagasta, Chile 3.1 139.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:14:49 UTC 2 hours ago Western Turkey 2.3 5.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:12:00 UTC 2 hours ago Southern California 1.0 13.6 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:10:10 UTC 2 hours ago Greece 2.7 1.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 16:05:31 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 1.8 5.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:58:11 UTC 2 hours ago Northern California 1.1 3.8 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:51:17 UTC 3 hours ago Northern California 1.7 8.9 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:51:07 UTC 3 hours ago Southern Alaska 1.4 12.5 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:49:12 UTC 3 hours ago Eastern Turkey 2.3 11.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:48:25 UTC 3 hours ago Andreanof Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska 1.8 28.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:46:56 UTC 3 hours ago Northern California 1.9 6.5 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:45:50 UTC 3 hours ago Southern California 1.7 9.1 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:42:53 UTC 3 hours ago Northern California 1.8 17.5 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:39:52 UTC 3 hours ago Western Turkey 2.2 10.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:26:20 UTC 3 hours ago Northern California 4.0 1.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:26:20 UTC 3 hours ago Northern California 4.0 0.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:23:47 UTC 3 hours ago Southern California 1.2 13.1 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:06:26 UTC 3 hours ago France 4.6 11.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:06:26 UTC 3 hours ago France 4.6 11.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:06:05 UTC 3 hours ago Southern California 2.1 17.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 15:00:15 UTC 3 hours ago Western Turkey 2.3 13.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 14:56:31 UTC 4 hours ago Sea of Okhotsk 6.8 623.0 USGS Feed Detail
Friday May 24 2013, 14:56:31 UTC 4 hours ago Sea Of Okhotsk 6.5 629.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail

[eric charles]

yeah California is definitly not the place to be , the way the san andreas fault is positioned , half of California would be vanish instantly !

[jiminii]

yeah California is definitly not the place to be , the way the san andreas fault is positioned , half of California would be vanish instantly !

it is not setup that way ... the plates are setup to go under california .. so it won't go down ... it will be pushed up

jim

[Sebastion]

I sure am curious as to who these people from the stars are who are gonna bring us the tech and clean up this planet for us are. You wouldn't just happen to know would you Jiminii? Specifically, what race are they and what planet are they from?







So what's 'good' and what's 'bad' is determined by your own fear of death? Or as little as maintaining a lifestyle?
Gosh, I just got that new SUV, I'd hate to lose it in a flood. A global coastal event would ruin my holiday plans.
Losing phone reception is a 'disaster' for most of the western world. The garbage disposal is jammed.

You want a 'new' humanity. How 'new' are you willing for that to be yourself? Who ARE you really? Vulnerable to death and disaster?
Or invulnerable. Wouldn't you like to find that out?

How willing are you to participate wholly and truly in whatever needs to occur? What would you do? How would you behave?
What are you most afraid of?
That's largely the history of man and the 'effects' that we live in, man shaking his fist at God and declaring 'I want it thus!'
I want a bridge there, and I'm gonna dam up that river to run my appliances.
And then you get what you want. More of nothing. More of the same. More of the old. A better version of old. More convenient.

No, you really want it the way it needs to be for the maximal good of absolutely everything involved, in space/time and out.
Whether you know it or you like it, or not. Keep your 'intention' there.

How much do you regret the the things in your life that you regarded as 'mistakes' or 'accidents', seemingly preventable, or not,
but that changed you so deeply and fundamentally, that you seemed to have been reborn from the experience?

Don't undervalue catharsis, on any scale. Let the earth do what she needs to do to cleanse herself. Our best efforts,
no matter how well 'intentioned', are directed and driven by our own desire to avoid confrontation. That's how the ego functions.
If you think you've usurped your own ego, well then you can discover a bit about that in the way you view the prospect of hardship.

You won't stop the earth from changing. It has to change. Whether that's relatively gently and minimal, or cathartically, isn't your business.
Finding and staying centered, and true, and willing, and helpful, is your business. That's the only use you have for this planet.
To learn those simple little personal things. That's not so much. You should be able to handle that.

the people in the stars that are around our planet have the technology for cleaning the oceans and the environment in a days time ... remember their time is 20 or more hours to one of our hours ... they will put a mile high pile of garbage on the desert create a portal and send it somewhere else ,.. don't worry about it ... when we finally get in trade with them they will be sending us products back through the portal ... so you don't need to have your attention on cleaning mother earth .. they have the tech up there ... the problem is they can not do it until this planet becomes part of the government up there ... that is what everyone is waiting for ... all we have to do is prevent all the disasters that the cabal are creating so they can make you believe they are your only salvation,.., they are not .. if we open up our powers and we do it wisely ... those in the stars will know who is in charge .. and they won't want to tangle with us and that will be the end of the cabal

jim

[DouglasDanger]

I sure am curious as to who these people from the stars are who are gonna bring us the tech and clean up this planet for us are. You wouldn't just happen to know would you Jiminii? Specifically, what race are they and what planet are they from?







So what's 'good' and what's 'bad' is determined by your own fear of death? Or as little as maintaining a lifestyle?
Gosh, I just got that new SUV, I'd hate to lose it in a flood. A global coastal event would ruin my holiday plans.
Losing phone reception is a 'disaster' for most of the western world. The garbage disposal is jammed.

You want a 'new' humanity. How 'new' are you willing for that to be yourself? Who ARE you really? Vulnerable to death and disaster?
Or invulnerable. Wouldn't you like to find that out?

How willing are you to participate wholly and truly in whatever needs to occur? What would you do? How would you behave?
What are you most afraid of?
That's largely the history of man and the 'effects' that we live in, man shaking his fist at God and declaring 'I want it thus!'
I want a bridge there, and I'm gonna dam up that river to run my appliances.
And then you get what you want. More of nothing. More of the same. More of the old. A better version of old. More convenient.

No, you really want it the way it needs to be for the maximal good of absolutely everything involved, in space/time and out.
Whether you know it or you like it, or not. Keep your 'intention' there.

How much do you regret the the things in your life that you regarded as 'mistakes' or 'accidents', seemingly preventable, or not,
but that changed you so deeply and fundamentally, that you seemed to have been reborn from the experience?

Don't undervalue catharsis, on any scale. Let the earth do what she needs to do to cleanse herself. Our best efforts,
no matter how well 'intentioned', are directed and driven by our own desire to avoid confrontation. That's how the ego functions.
If you think you've usurped your own ego, well then you can discover a bit about that in the way you view the prospect of hardship.

You won't stop the earth from changing. It has to change. Whether that's relatively gently and minimal, or cathartically, isn't your business.
Finding and staying centered, and true, and willing, and helpful, is your business. That's the only use you have for this planet.
To learn those simple little personal things. That's not so much. You should be able to handle that.

the people in the stars that are around our planet have the technology for cleaning the oceans and the environment in a days time ... remember their time is 20 or more hours to one of our hours ... they will put a mile high pile of garbage on the desert create a portal and send it somewhere else ,.. don't worry about it ... when we finally get in trade with them they will be sending us products back through the portal ... so you don't need to have your attention on cleaning mother earth .. they have the tech up there ... the problem is they can not do it until this planet becomes part of the government up there ... that is what everyone is waiting for ... all we have to do is prevent all the disasters that the cabal are creating so they can make you believe they are your only salvation,.., they are not .. if we open up our powers and we do it wisely ... those in the stars will know who is in charge .. and they won't want to tangle with us and that will be the end of the cabal

jim


I don't see him saying that ET's are going to come and help , I see him saying they have the tech to help, but they won't help those who are curently in charge.. Did i read this wrong ?

[Orph]

well I got one star seed ... anyone else out there want to join us?

I'm not a star seed, but I like the way you and we-R-one think. I'll do what I can.

[Knowrainknowrainbows!]

we-R-one said, "Change the way you think, and you will see the world in a different light."

Such a simple and profound statement.
A few weeks ago, I was acquainted with a little saying which has become embedded in my mind ...

What your heart posseses,
your life expresses.

So, think well and be well!

Love and light,
live in truth,
KRKR
:grouphug:

[jagman]

The world is a dangerous place,not because those who do evil,but because of those who look on and do nothing.

-Albert Einstein

[jiminii]

I sure am curious as to who these people from the stars are who are gonna bring us the tech and clean up this planet for us are. You wouldn't just happen to know would you Jiminii? Specifically, what race are they and what planet are they from?







So what's 'good' and what's 'bad' is determined by your own fear of death? Or as little as maintaining a lifestyle?
Gosh, I just got that new SUV, I'd hate to lose it in a flood. A global coastal event would ruin my holiday plans.
Losing phone reception is a 'disaster' for most of the western world. The garbage disposal is jammed.

You want a 'new' humanity. How 'new' are you willing for that to be yourself? Who ARE you really? Vulnerable to death and disaster?
Or invulnerable. Wouldn't you like to find that out?

How willing are you to participate wholly and truly in whatever needs to occur? What would you do? How would you behave?
What are you most afraid of?
That's largely the history of man and the 'effects' that we live in, man shaking his fist at God and declaring 'I want it thus!'
I want a bridge there, and I'm gonna dam up that river to run my appliances.
And then you get what you want. More of nothing. More of the same. More of the old. A better version of old. More convenient.

No, you really want it the way it needs to be for the maximal good of absolutely everything involved, in space/time and out.
Whether you know it or you like it, or not. Keep your 'intention' there.

How much do you regret the the things in your life that you regarded as 'mistakes' or 'accidents', seemingly preventable, or not,
but that changed you so deeply and fundamentally, that you seemed to have been reborn from the experience?

Don't undervalue catharsis, on any scale. Let the earth do what she needs to do to cleanse herself. Our best efforts,
no matter how well 'intentioned', are directed and driven by our own desire to avoid confrontation. That's how the ego functions.
If you think you've usurped your own ego, well then you can discover a bit about that in the way you view the prospect of hardship.

You won't stop the earth from changing. It has to change. Whether that's relatively gently and minimal, or cathartically, isn't your business.
Finding and staying centered, and true, and willing, and helpful, is your business. That's the only use you have for this planet.
To learn those simple little personal things. That's not so much. You should be able to handle that.

the people in the stars that are around our planet have the technology for cleaning the oceans and the environment in a days time ... remember their time is 20 or more hours to one of our hours ... they will put a mile high pile of garbage on the desert create a portal and send it somewhere else ,.. don't worry about it ... when we finally get in trade with them they will be sending us products back through the portal ... so you don't need to have your attention on cleaning mother earth .. they have the tech up there ... the problem is they can not do it until this planet becomes part of the government up there ... that is what everyone is waiting for ... all we have to do is prevent all the disasters that the cabal are creating so they can make you believe they are your only salvation,.., they are not .. if we open up our powers and we do it wisely ... those in the stars will know who is in charge .. and they won't want to tangle with us and that will be the end of the cabal

jim


I don't see him saying that ET's are going to come and help , I see him saying they have the tech to help, but they won't help those who are curently in charge.. Did i read this wrong ?

that is what I get too ... they don't want to help this cabal because they know where it will go in the future ... something like that .. at least some of them are aware of this so we have to hold the fort until they make the planet safe

jim

[jiminii]

I sure am curious as to who these people from the stars are who are gonna bring us the tech and clean up this planet for us are. You wouldn't just happen to know would you Jiminii? Specifically, what race are they and what planet are they from?



So what's 'good' and what's 'bad' is determined by your own fear of death? Or as little as maintaining a lifestyle?
Gosh, I just got that new SUV, I'd hate to lose it in a flood. A global coastal event would ruin my holiday plans.
Losing phone reception is a 'disaster' for most of the western world. The garbage disposal is jammed.

You want a 'new' humanity. How 'new' are you willing for that to be yourself? Who ARE you really? Vulnerable to death and disaster?
Or invulnerable. Wouldn't you like to find that out?

How willing are you to participate wholly and truly in whatever needs to occur? What would you do? How would you behave?
What are you most afraid of?
That's largely the history of man and the 'effects' that we live in, man shaking his fist at God and declaring 'I want it thus!'
I want a bridge there, and I'm gonna dam up that river to run my appliances.
And then you get what you want. More of nothing. More of the same. More of the old. A better version of old. More convenient.

No, you really want it the way it needs to be for the maximal good of absolutely everything involved, in space/time and out.
Whether you know it or you like it, or not. Keep your 'intention' there.

How much do you regret the the things in your life that you regarded as 'mistakes' or 'accidents', seemingly preventable, or not,
but that changed you so deeply and fundamentally, that you seemed to have been reborn from the experience?

Don't undervalue catharsis, on any scale. Let the earth do what she needs to do to cleanse herself. Our best efforts,
no matter how well 'intentioned', are directed and driven by our own desire to avoid confrontation. That's how the ego functions.
If you think you've usurped your own ego, well then you can discover a bit about that in the way you view the prospect of hardship.

You won't stop the earth from changing. It has to change. Whether that's relatively gently and minimal, or cathartically, isn't your business.
Finding and staying centered, and true, and willing, and helpful, is your business. That's the only use you have for this planet.
To learn those simple little personal things. That's not so much. You should be able to handle that.

the people in the stars that are around our planet have the technology for cleaning the oceans and the environment in a days time ... remember their time is 20 or more hours to one of our hours ... they will put a mile high pile of garbage on the desert create a portal and send it somewhere else ,.. don't worry about it ... when we finally get in trade with them they will be sending us products back through the portal ... so you don't need to have your attention on cleaning mother earth .. they have the tech up there ... the problem is they can not do it until this planet becomes part of the government up there ... that is what everyone is waiting for ... all we have to do is prevent all the disasters that the cabal are creating so they can make you believe they are your only salvation,.., they are not .. if we open up our powers and we do it wisely ... those in the stars will know who is in charge .. and they won't want to tangle with us and that will be the end of the cabal

jim

I just look up and see this but the race I don't know... as far as I know there is several groups some are very high up and if you saw them they would probably make you think they are angels... they have huge ships ... larger than jupiter so they can use some kind of power from the ship to move threats like another star or planet that might come close dont' know their name.... oh maybe it is arturians .. not not sure but they may have the tech to clean the planet

ok just looked at something else.... it is like this ... we are in trouble because we didn't respect the powers of the OT's (gods) ..and the OT's didn't respect the rights of the meat bodies too. or the groups and governments that kept trying to pull down the OT's because they would say we are too unpredictable and dangerous ... it is actually them that are too unpredictable and dangerous because given the right .. they would destroy their own populations for their own personal power and wealth ... so ... we are more or less showing all the result of what is is like to NOT have these gods to help them and manage the universe as we were .and also not respecting people's rights ... it is like bruce lee can go around and kill his neighborhood if he just got angry one day so the military comes in and tries to wipe him out... this game was lost by the most powerful too ... meaning if one god or 2 are in one system those same bankers would plot wars the same as they do on this planet except they plot them over 10,000 years or more for doing the same as they do on this planet "steal other people's property" ... that system would get in fight with other OT's (gods ) on another government system and the OT's themselves would train their own people on how to take down an OT (god) ... so that is why this game was lost by the most powerful ... losing more of the game again and again until the got the OT's fighting each other ... so that is why all of them had to be trapped on these planets ... to change their viewpoints not only of the people that utilized them to make their wars but also by those trained to bring them down ... this planet is a kind of demonstration to all what would happen if we didn't have any OT's managing the galaxies ... we would have to choose between allowing an unfriendly alien (that would have no ability to take on these OT's) .. who would just eat us like chicken (that is how they look at us ... same as how we look at chickens) and steal our resources ... so this game is to get everyone to realize that not having and respecting OT's and not having technology to free them after they've been trapped on a planet is not wise .to do ... because we spent billions of years on technology on how to make wars .. and trap OT's and zero technology on how to free them.. they set up how they will wipe out their enemies like USA with atomic bombs ... but don't build a defense for atomic bombs ... this is monumental force vs grasshopper intelligence ...

so this is why we are allowing everyone to experience this ... so they will be able to develop future systems that let OT's be able to work with meat bodies without either one of them hurting the other ... of course we make mistakes ... but then we have technology that can remove the effects of those mistakes

so it looks like they are playing this game out ... look at the people on this website and their viewpoints on power ... some are all go let's do it .. others are terrified .. so we have to get the OT's that don't know they are OT's ... (the star children ) to open up their abilities and use them wisely ... look at better solutions rather than use your abilities to wipe out the enemies ... and the game keeps putting more and more impingement on us ... "hey I just bought an SUV ... now what do I do?" ... well work with the OT's if you are not one .... PLAN your postulates to make the best decisions for the greatest good ... this is ALL MAN KIND ... means I would even have a solution for the cabal if they would stop all their insanity just to save themselves ... they need to realize we need these powers opened up .. but we also need them opened up correctly ... so this website can use their intelligence to decide how they want to do it and some of the beings here are star seeds ... they will do it even if they don't know they can ...

it is kinda like this

jim

[gripreaper]

It is the distillation of all electromagnetic pulses, both biological and digital and astral, into a single protocol, which can be captured and melded frontwards and backwards into a web, which then becomes conscious, and can be steered towards an outcome which meets certain criteria.

It also means, that if we can amalgamate a synthesis of this protocol, as an antithesis to the agenda being perpetuated, then we can affect the outcome. If a thesis for doing such can be integrated and put out to those with the spiritual knowledge to develop such a protocol, and the necessity for such a project, then this could go viral.

It just depends on how important it is perceived by those who have the capacity to make it happen. Putting variables, memes, engrams, and counterpoints into this amalgamated web, changes the data sets and also changes the resonant electromagnetic imprint, or the perceptive outcome.

We can send these impulses into this web, either through a spiritual telepathy, but also through tapping into the spider of all Internets, the collective, and override the predominant perceived outcome of this consciousness, for it has to have the collective perceptions as well as the trajectory in order to crunch all the energy to proceed.

[jiminii]

It is the distillation of all electromagnetic pulses, both biological and digital and astral, into a single protocol, which can be captured and melded frontwards and backwards into a web, which then becomes conscious, and can be steered towards an outcome which meets certain criteria.

It also means, that if we can amalgamate a synthesis of this protocol, as an antithesis to the agenda being perpetuated, then we can affect the outcome. If a thesis for doing such can be integrated and put out to those with the spiritual knowledge to develop such a protocol, and the necessity for such a project, then this could go viral.

It just depends on how important it is perceived by those who have the capacity to make it happen. Putting variables, memes, engrams, and counterpoints into this amalgamated web, changes the data sets and also changes the resonant electromagnetic imprint, or the perceptive outcome.

We can send these impulses into this web, either through a spiritual telepathy, but also through tapping into the spider of all Internets, the collective, and override the predominant perceived outcome of this consciousness, for it has to have the collective perceptions as well as the trajectory in order to crunch all the energy to proceed.

it is a game where everyone wins .... not some elite grasshopper intelligence or some totally overwhelm OT (god) ... a balance must be made until we can all go up to our native states and be gods (OT's) too .... then everyone can go back to their toys ... like making planets and meat bodies that are creations no greater than the trees and plants ...
and like a pin ball machine two or three of these OT's set up a small battle on one of the meat body planets and have a small war with each other ... the difference is .. no real spirit being is on the planets ...just their toys they build like dinasours and etc to play the game with..

get the idea

jim

[The Truth Is In There]

the impression i get of most people, including most here on avalon, is that they don't want the cattle truck to shake while they're being carried to the slaughter.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

the impression i get of most people, including most here on avalon, is that they don't want the cattle truck to shake while they're being carried to the slaughter.

This made me wonder if your obvious superiority complex came with a small complimentary mustache, perhaps this perception I now have of you could change, it would actually help everyone if you explain/share the preparations you made that prevent you from being taken to the coming slaughter as you so subtly describe it, or perhaps you want to keep that all for yourself and dont want to share this planet with the rest of us?

For now not so kind regards

[frozen alchemy]

Didn't Clif predict some disaster or another back for March 2013 and say that he was going to shut up once and for all if it didn't come to pass? As far as Courtney Browne goes, he did one extensive RV session wherein he claims to have sent the RV'ers back to the crucifixion of Christ. His premise was that Christ wasn't crucified at all, it was a patsy replacement. His proof? The RV'ers were tasked with 'seeing what Jesus was feeling during the crucifixion' and the vague, indeterminate data came back that the 'subject was in a quiet place, calm and thoughtful'; I'm paraphrasing because it's been a while since I read the material but Courtney thought this PROVED that Christ hadn't been crucified, and someone else was. (Luckily, a mentally ill man who didn't know what was happening to him, apparently). Oh, and Judas was the one who arranged all this to 'save' Jesus.

So, not only has RV'ing 'proved' that Jesus was a real person, etc., but apparently has proven all the historical overlay wrong, wrong, wrong. Based on a couple remote viewers who didn't even know what they were viewing, since no mention was made in any of the material that they knew what they were looking at, or even the time frame. Just that the person in question wasn't under any particular stress.

If this is what passes for remote viewing and predicting the future, leave me out. At least a short time frame prediction of a spectacularly devastating event will leave no excuses for the soothsayers to hide behind when it doesn't come to pass. Oh, except for the usual, 'it's hard to predict time frames, mea culpa." Then they'll be back again in three months scaring a new group of followers.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: making predictions like this and scaring people is tantamount to treason against humanity. It's not harmless and many people are already under great stress; something like this can push them over the edge. Somewhere right now there's some massively depressed guy considering killing his family and then himself to 'protect' them from the disaster...

OP are you going to get on here come June 1 and denounce the panic-mongers once and for all? Or at least learn something from the experience?

[T Smith]

Latest Wujo:

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/wujo/clifswujo5252013thanks.mp3

[onawah]

There is a channeler named Suzy Ward who has said for years that Jesus was not crucified, that another took his place on the cross.
I have been reading her messages for years now, which seem quite reasonable to me.
I don't find it that hard to believe, since so much of what the Bible now says has been distorted/falsified by the Church, another example being the portrayal of Mary Magdelene as a whore.
There are quite a few different theories as to what went down in Jesus's time.
I find Sir Lawrence Gardner's version pretty credible.
See:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_1.htm
It's really easy to scare "followers". If they weren't scared of RV theories, they would find something else to be scared of.
The world is full of scary stuff.
Which makes it all the more necessary to find our center within.

[T Smith]

It's really easy to scare "followers".

I think you've summed up the meme of our age in one sentence.

I will add that there are a hell of a lot more people scared of terrorists and all the rest of the propaganda put out by the information cartel (aka MSM) than there are those who follow the RV information....

[onawah]

You just said a mouthful, Gripreaper!
That's a good description of what I consider to be the task of real Lightworkers.
Which of course, most people consider to be a very woo woo concept, but from my experience, it's hard work, involving a lot of clear perception and focused energy.


It is the distillation of all electromagnetic pulses, both biological and digital and astral, into a single protocol, which can be captured and melded frontwards and backwards into a web, which then becomes conscious, and can be steered towards an outcome which meets certain criteria.

It also means, that if we can amalgamate a synthesis of this protocol, as an antithesis to the agenda being perpetuated, then we can affect the outcome. If a thesis for doing such can be integrated and put out to those with the spiritual knowledge to develop such a protocol, and the necessity for such a project, then this could go viral.

It just depends on how important it is perceived by those who have the capacity to make it happen. Putting variables, memes, engrams, and counterpoints into this amalgamated web, changes the data sets and also changes the resonant electromagnetic imprint, or the perceptive outcome.

We can send these impulses into this web, either through a spiritual telepathy, but also through tapping into the spider of all Internets, the collective, and override the predominant perceived outcome of this consciousness, for it has to have the collective perceptions as well as the trajectory in order to crunch all the energy to proceed.

[Orph]

There is a channeler named Suzy Ward who has said for years that Jesus was not crucified, that another took his place on the cross.

I might be wrong, but I seem to remember in the book "Seth Speaks" (Jane Roberts), Seth said the very same thing. He didn't elaborate. It wasn't the main topic he was talking about, and his comment was very short. But Judas had to "betray" Christ simply for the reason so that the other person would be put on the cross and not Christ. I believe the first Seth books came out in the middle 1970's. (???) (Just thought I'd put that out there).

[marlowe]

rumors that VIPs are evacuating California due to fears of massive quakes..not sure if this has been posted yet

http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53474&p=323803

[AlaBil]

Here is Clif's latest today 5/25/13

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/clifswujo.html

It appears it doesn't add much. Talks about the webbot process. More like saying goodbye.

[fourty-two]

from jim's post #58
so we have to hold the fort until they make the planet safe

sounds a bit like the savior story, yet again Eh? they?? Who dat?

[grannyfranny100]

Greybeard, I really enjoyed the Courtney Brown link. It is the first time I ever heard him talk from a political viewpoint. I especially liked his reference to red versus blue, interior versus coastal states and the genetic underpinnings of our political preferences based on a large study of separated twins. I look forward to exploring Global Intel. Thank you. Peace be with us all.

[greybeard]

Greybeard, I really enjoyed the Courtney Brown link. It is the first time I ever heard him talk from a political viewpoint. I especially liked his reference to red versus blue, interior versus coastal states and the genetic underpinnings of our political preferences based on a large study of separated twins. I look forward to exploring Global Intel. Thank you. Peace be with us all.

Yes Grannyfranny100 I was pleasantly surprised at the depth yet simplicity of Courtney Browns thoughts on a wide spectrum.
Very balanced and level headed, not claiming anything, actually positive and reassuring.
Well worth listening to.
All credit to him.

Best wishes to you.
Chris

[marlowe]

It's about 1 0'clock in the Pacific North West....If the quake doesn't happen in the next 6 hours I don't think it will.....However ,if it does happen I hope certain people who have posted about stopping it with their mental powers won't blame it on this thread....
I have posted on this thread as a warning to people living on the west coast to get out of Dodge......{NOT BECAUSE I WANT THE QUAKE TO HAPPEN.}..

Also keep in mind that if the PNW quake happens the Pacific tsnami is predicted to follow within a day or two's time......or at the same time as the PNW quake...

[we-R-one]

It's about 1 0'clock in the Pacific North West....If the quake doesn't happen in the next 6 hours I don't think it will.....However ,if it does happen I hope certain people who have posted about stopping it with their mental powers won't blame it on this thread....
I have posted on this thread as a warning to people living on the west coast to get out of Dodge......{NOT BECAUSE I WANT THE QUAKE TO HAPPEN.}..

Also keep in mind that if the PNW quake happens the Pacific tsnami is predicted to follow within a day or two's time......or at the same time as the PNW quake...

Please take the time to read this so you can learn and grow. All I did was go to startpage.com and type in "scientific studies validating the power of intention."

" This view of the universe has been proven incorrect, and yet sadly this is what's still being taught in most schools. Nothing in this universe is physical, it is all energy and humans are energy beings. Our bodies, words, thoughts and emotions are all energy that is constantly being projected out into the
cosmic ocean of energy and affecting everything in existence.

Everything we perceive is a river of energy, and scientists have discovered that our very intentions can influence people, plants, and machines, even at remote distances. Many studies and experiments have been performed regarding the power of human intention with great success.

The following studies are only a few of the many successful intention-based experiments:

http://www.stoptherobbery.com/Intention.html

Do you want the truth or not? I'm giving you truth, I'm physically showing you the truth. I'm even showing you how to do basic research. Please, please wake up. If you continue to dismiss the truth all I can say is that you either can't handle the truth or have no interest in it, which is your choice and I wish you well. But for many of us, we come on here looking for the truth.

[Snookie]

rumors that VIPs are evacuating California due to fears of massive quakes..not sure if this has been posted yet

http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53474&p=323803

Interesting indeed. I was sent a link a few weeks ago to a Real Estate listing showing that Wayne & Janet Gretzky's house was up for sale in SouCal. I had also heard that Madonna and several other celebrities homes were on the market as well.

[astrid]

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/suspected-plate-fracture-in-calioregon-insiders-reportedly-evacuating-west-coast-cities_052013

Just read this... its from Steve Quayle... so discernment... etc..

[gripreaper]

Joel Skousen wrote a book called "Strategic Relocation" in which he highlights the places which have the best of the best to prepare for most anomalous events which "could" occur.

http://www.joelskousen.com/

Thus, one can prepare if one chooses. The main point, is do not go into fear.

[ThePythonicCow]

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/suspected-plate-fracture-in-calioregon-insiders-reportedly-evacuating-west-coast-cities_052013

Just read this... its from Steve Quayle... so discernment... etc..
Calz posted that one too, over on Giovonni's "Up at the Ranch" thread.

I posted this detailed response (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch&p=678639&viewfull=1#post678639), from the perspective of a skeptical debunker.

My conclusion, in short: fear mongering nonsense :).

(But that would be easy for me to say, sitting high atop the North American plate, many hundreds of miles from the nearest coast, dormant volcano, or location with even the slightest potential of a non-trivial earthquake, volcano, tsunami or "coastal event."

[ThePythonicCow]

Joel Skousen wrote a book called "Strategic Relocation" in which he highlights the places which have the best of the best to prepare for most anomalous events which "could" occur.

http://www.joelskousen.com/

Thus, one can prepare if one chooses. The main point, is do not go into fear.
Joel has been promoting high end security and relocation services forever :).

[gripreaper]

Joel Skousen wrote a book called "Strategic Relocation" in which he highlights the places which have the best of the best to prepare for most anomalous events which "could" occur.

http://www.joelskousen.com/

Thus, one can prepare if one chooses. The main point, is do not go into fear.
Joel has been promoting high end security and relocation services forever :).

Hows that hidey hole comin along in your backyard?

[ThePythonicCow]

Hows that hidey hole comin along in your backyard?

It's big enough to hold my Silver Eagle coin - that should suffice, shouldn't it?

[Daozen]

Clif seems always to get it "just a little" right, but is years into the project and virtually everything is overblown by several orders of magnitude. He has explained why several times in interviews. (Humans express themselves better negatively) So why not tone down the forecasts accordingly?

I think you're right. I've never followed this guy much but his track record looks awful. I think he's just a plant to seed negative info about futures and skew the timeline.

[Calz]

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/suspected-plate-fracture-in-calioregon-insiders-reportedly-evacuating-west-coast-cities_052013

Just read this... its from Steve Quayle... so discernment... etc..
Calz posted that one too, over on Giovonni's "Up at the Ranch" thread.

I posted this detailed response (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch&p=678639&viewfull=1#post678639), from the perspective of a skeptical debunker.

My conclusion, in short: fear mongering nonsense :).

(But that would be easy for me to say, sitting high atop the North American plate, many hundreds of miles from the nearest coast, dormant volcano, or location with even the slightest potential of a non-trivial earthquake, volcano, tsunami or "coastal event."


Well ... yes and no. It was included in a post from another site.

In keeping with debunking the skeptical debunkers ... let's get the whole story rather than using nested parsing.

Backdrop was it was right after the 8.2 (or 8.3) off Russia/Japan and right in the Remote Viewing window as depicted by Courtney's group as well as validation studies initiated by Clif using members of said group.

Thus people were (some still are) quite jittery.

Notice my quantifier:


Not confirmed so simply passing along. Use your discernment (particularly if you and yours live in the area).


The 5.7 (yes there was one and not two ... I noticed that but didn't point it out ... my bad there) was stronger than California had experienced for awhile and in an unusual area.

The title was calling attention to the *possibility* of a plate fracture as well as "alleged" insiders calling for leaving the area.

Based on the nature of several events it seemed worth passing along with the caveat that it was *unconfirmed* and to use *discernment*.

Since we had been posting some about Clif's stuff in the Ranch thread (and since James Gilliland has been public for a long time about receiving psychic information suggesting a big quake off Oregon and "coastal events" on both coasts ... I don't find it was fair to label such, when viewed in whole, as "fear mongering nonsense".

Steve Quayle ... yes that is another story ... but that was only a 3rd party portion of the post at transients.info.



Another update from the transients.info blog.

Not confirmed so simply passing along. Use your discernment (particularly if you and yours live in the area).

____________________________


Suspected plate fracture in California/ Oregon, USA : Insiders reportedly evacuating West Coast Cities

I don't mean to put the fear into anyone with this post. I just think there may be something to this considering the situation in the World right now. The timing of this event adding to everything else else going on makes you wonder.

There is definitely a bit of strange earthquake activity going on not only in this region in CA, which you can view through this link, http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/, but all around the World. Of course, this is to be expected because of the recent activity on the Sun, but the readers out there who are aware of the many predictions for this period in time, may understand that there is possibly a whole lot more to this.

The swarm of small quakes are centred around roughly 10km's north west of Greenville in California, USA.

The larger 5.7 Richter earthquake that struck yesterday (yesterday in Australia that is) was also in that region. Here is a picture of that region.

And here (take link for images) is the location of all the quakes below with the white circle being the 5.7 magnntude quake yesterday. As you can see, in the map above in comparison to the map below, the location is on the Southern East corner of Lake Almanor.

If you are in California, just be aware of this and perhaps start keeping an eye on the situation more closely. Also see my post from yesterday, 'Possible Volcanic eruption luming in Lassen Volcanic National Park, California', if you missed it.

Here is the post from The Daily Sheeple regarding the subject of this article.

Via thedailysheeple.com, 24 May 2013 (Thanks Shannon) - After fifty earthquakes struck Northern California in the last 24 hours, and a massive quake in eastern Russia measuring 8.2 on the Richter scale, reports are emerging that some high profile individuals on the U.S. west coast have begun evacuating their families.

Unidentified international dignitaries have likewise been reportedly flown out of the San Francisco area.

The reasoning is that there may be a suspected massive “plate fracture” occurring off of the Oregon/California coast.


Received by Steve Quayle:




"Something HUGE is going down….

Just had Two 5.7 earthquakes just north of Sacramento near Lassen Volcanic National Park. Don’t normally post this kind of thing just giving you a heads up…
All I can say is someone was given the word that California is about to get a big one. Moving their family out right now. They are in San Jose. Not someone who would joke around unless they knew something…

I really don’t want to freak anyone out but this is legit info… I’m sorry, just knew when this guy said something that he was worried. He was given the word to move VIPs then told to get out of Cali. Like NOW!

Key dignitaries from SanFran consulates have been flown out.

Suspected plate fractures off Oregon, Cali coast. A double header. That’s all I know.."


http://www.transients.info/2013/05/suspected-plate-fracture-in-california.html#more

[xeon]

I never believed this, simply because its way over the top, like a movie Hollywood would conjure up.

Are you telling me 1.2 billion people (did I get that number right) will perish just like that?

Nah, there is a Keeper of this planet, and very obviously, this Keeper has the final say. That's why even though "they" love to make us believe some mega doom will happen, it just won't/can't.

All this doom mongering fails to take this simple factor into account - Our planet is obviously watched over (because we are special beings with POTENTIAL; we just don't live up to it).

Yes, the world is really effed up, but if you think the overall situation is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet....

I believe that bar will still drop further; now is just not the time for such mega doom; still have some way to descend..... before we hit rock bottom.

If you talk about about much, much, much smaller quakes or disasters, that is totally possible. Even a Katrina or Indonesia tsunami was just VERY minor. Some disaster like may even happen very soon, just as throughout mankind's history....

BUT, not something that practically wipes out the whole planet and 1.2 billion people. That's what I mean by - way over the top.

It's ridiculous! :yo:

[The Truth Is In There]

I never believed this, simply because its way over the top, like a movie Hollywood would conjure up.

Are you telling me 1.2 billion people (did I get that number right) will perish just like that?

Nah, there is a Keeper of this planet, and very obviously, this Keeper has the final say. That's why even though "they" love to make us believe some mega doom will happen, it just won't/can't.

All this doom mongering fails to take this simple factor into account - Our planet is obviously watched over (because we are special beings with POTENTIAL; we just don't live up to it).

Yes, the world is really effed up, but if you think the overall situation is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet....

I believe that bar will still drop further; now is just not the time for such mega doom; still have some way to descend..... before we hit rock bottom.

If you talk about about much, much, much smaller quakes or disasters, that is totally possible. Even a Katrina or Indonesia tsunami was just VERY minor. Some disaster like may even happen very soon, just as throughout mankind's history....

BUT, not something that practically wipes out the whole planet and 1.2 billion people. That's what I mean by - way over the top.

It's ridiculous! :yo:

that you don't believe it doesn't mean it's not possible, or necessary.

[Warlock]

Clif is just telling us what his software is bringing back to him and what it could be telling him.

On one of his May wu's, he said he hopes he is just waiting for something that will not happen and that he is wrong.

I mean, no one has to go to his site and read any of his articles or listen to anything he has to say.

That being said, I personally find his work interesting.

Warlock :wizard:

[greybeard]

If it was just Clif I would say he is crazy.
However he got validation for at least the part that was pertaining to his neck of the woods from various remote viewers.
Courtney Brown came up with similar as did Ed Dames.
Some of it seems to have happened---HOWEVER there is the possibility of remote viewers picking up different time lines.
So a time line (I dont really like that expression) can go so far then produce many different end results in multiple universes, at least that's the theory and for all I know its so.
For my money---either we are going to have a changing earth at the current rate or a sudden "earth shattering" change soon or years from now.
The fact that it is changing cant be denied.

While we can manifest/change the small stuff---that's valid.
I doubt if we have the ability to make much impact on cyclic events that have been happening since time began and long before we arrived here.
God stands for Generation--Order---Dissolution.
Forest fires are essential for long term health of the woods.
It would seem that the world needs ice ages and on it goes---all cyclic.

Obviously hoping that there is no above average event that causes suffering to all/any life.

Chris

[Warlock]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you here, but how can thought stop an earthquake, volcano, tsunami, tornado, hurricane, a hailstorm with hail the size of softballs, etc?

I understand that many people do not realize the power of negative and positive thoughts in their own personal lives, but we are talking about a global coastal event, not the power of positive thinking.

Please do not take this comment as an attack on you or your comments.

Warlock :wizard:

[greybeard]

Personally I would be reluctant to try to change anything where I dont know the purpose behind it.
From my perspective it would seem a very good idea to save as many lives as possible--- however thinking on, people of NDE say there is no death so what's there to fear?

One example a sage gave.
"Living at the North Pole I want to raise the temperature its freezing here--so I do.
I just caused untold misery and death to people on the equator.
I could have moved somewhere warmer myself.. "

The Totality brings everything about and It knows best.
We may bring about change which seems beneficial.
In the short term it may well be, however in the long term it could be a massive disaster.

We will just have to wait and see--June the 2nd not far away.

Ch

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

[Calz]

If it was just Clif I would say he is crazy.
However he got validation for at least the part that was pertaining to his neck of the woods from various remote viewers.

Courtney Brown came up with similar as did Ed Dames.
Some of it seems to have happened---HOWEVER there is the possibility of remote viewers picking up different time lines.

So a time line (I dont really like that expression) can go so far then produce many different end results in multiple universes, at least that's the theory and for all I know its so.

Chris


Bingo!

... and therein lies the paradox of unlimited possibilities.

Timeline change??? Mitigated by thought??? Divine intervention??? Total BS??? Global consciousness??? ET help???

I highly recommend anyone interested listen to the first hour of this interview with Courtney who explains many things regarding remote viewing (and brings up Clif a few times).

He suggests some of their latest work can actually *prove* the timeline theory(s). Clif doesn't believe in timelines.

Now having said that ... one thing I don't agree with him about is that when the near miss asteroid coupled with the one that exploded over Russia hit (February I think it was) he suggests that proves the timeline had changed. Courtney's RV'ers were of the opinion asteroids hitting the ocean(s) were the cause of the coastal damage whereas Clif suggested earth expansion.

It is clear we are traveling through an area of space with many more asteroids and meteors so I don't agree with using simple mathematical probabilities based on normal odds for meteor/asteroid strikes.

He does mention there are, indeed, more now lately but seems to be sticking with his thought that the timeline has changed based on the "odds" of more strikes so soon.


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freeassociationradio/2013/05/24/friday-farcast-courtney-brown-james-gilliland


http://blog.blockbuster.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/sarah_connor2.jpg

[greybeard]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

In many ways I think you answered your own questions.
With a child I would hold them gently and wait for them to awaken.
The enlightened sage meets you where you stand and leads you gently or points the way.
They dont say you got it all wrong you idiot.
Different strokes for different folks.
The hope is that more come out of the dream---one might say they are hold back those dedicated to moving forward.
Those who are on the edge of discovery are ready for a loving enthusiastic gentle push.
The other side of it is though--Who are we to say what should be done?--life has a way of moving people forward or not as the case might be.
Hope that is helpful.
Chris

[Warlock]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

Maybe it's not about illusion.

Maybe it's about dimension.

Warlock :wizard:

[jack]

Personally I would be reluctant to try to change anything where I dont know the purpose behind it.
From my perspective it would seem a very good idea to save as many lives as possible--- however thinking on, people of NDE say there is no death so what's there to fear?

One example a sage gave.
"Living at the North Pole I want to raise the temperature its freezing here--so I do.
I just caused untold misery and death to people on the equator.
I could have moved somewhere warmer myself.. "

The Totality brings everything about and It knows best.
We may bring about change which seems beneficial.
In the short term it may well be, however in the long term it could be a massive disaster.

We will just have to wait and see--June the 2nd not far away.

Ch

Well said greybeard :)

There is no changing the world without infringing upon the freewill of others, which in turn causes more karma/experiences. The only choice left is to change ourselves.

Any actions that arise out of a low level of consciousness will have a less than perfect result. Any action that arises from an enlightened being will have a perfect result.

Moral of the story - We should all sit on our hands until we become enlightened.

[we-R-one]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you here, but how can thought stop an earthquake, volcano, tsunami, tornado, hurricane, a hailstorm with hail the size of softballs, etc?

I understand that many people do not realize the power of negative and positive thoughts in their own personal lives, but we are talking about a global coastal event, not the power of positive thinking.

Please do not take this comment as an attack on you or your comments.

Warlock :wizard:

Perhaps maybe I take some of my internal knowledge for granted. There are many studies on the power of intention so you would have to take the time to do the research on your own and draw your conclusion from there. We are all tied into the same energy field and our thoughts do have an effect on our environment in more ways than most even understand. Much of my affirmation comes from personal experience that I cannot prove in the same way that Jiminii can't prove his ability to manipulate the weather. Which is why many of us star seeds will say you are more powerful than you know. This comes from experiencing situations where one can transform their reality through the power of intention whether alone or with others, by manipulating the energy around them in order to obtain the desired results. There is nothing you cannot do or control, it is your belief systems that hold you back from obtaining and implementing this type of power that has the ability to transform your reality. I have no doubt that this is all ready being done in advance civilizations since you are living in the past on planet Earth.

So when I tell you I've been able to speed up time in the car to arrive at my destination quicker, which is known as time dilation, or make someone call me whom I haven't talked to in 10 years and no longer had my number which was unlisted, both through the power of intention which in essence is the manipulation of energy etc, etc....you begin to see the possibilities are endless as to what you can do. As more people understand this, and implement the same belief systems, our world will advance in unimaginable ways. Hopefully sooner than later the studies will catch up with what some of all ready know to be true.

[T Smith]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

Yes. Or not. The GCE--or something of similar magnitude--could be that which shakes the child from her dream.

[T Smith]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you here, but how can thought stop an earthquake, volcano, tsunami, tornado, hurricane, a hailstorm with hail the size of softballs, etc?

I understand that many people do not realize the power of negative and positive thoughts in their own personal lives, but we are talking about a global coastal event, not the power of positive thinking.

Please do not take this comment as an attack on you or your comments.

Warlock :wizard:

Perhaps maybe I take some of my internal knowledge for granted. There are many studies on the power of intention so you would have to take the time to do the research on your own and draw your conclusion from there. We are all tied into the same energy field and our thoughts do have an effect on our environment in more ways than most even understand. Much of my affirmation comes from personal experience that I cannot prove in the same way that Jiminii can't prove his ability to manipulate the weather. Which is why many of us star seeds will say you are more powerful than you know. This comes from experiencing situations where one can transform their reality through the power of intention whether alone or with others, by manipulating the energy around them in order to obtain the desired results. There is nothing you cannot do or control, it is your belief systems that hold you back from obtaining and implementing this type of power that has the ability to transform your reality. I have no doubt that this is all ready being done in advance civilizations since you are living in the past on planet Earth.

So when I tell you I've been able to speed up time in the car to arrive at my destination quicker, which is known as time dilation, or make someone call me whom I haven't talked to in 10 years and no longer had my number which was unlisted, both through the power of intention which in essence is the manipulation of energy etc, etc....you begin to see the possibilities are endless as to what you can do. As more people understand this, and implement the same belief systems, our world will advance in unimaginable ways. Hopefully sooner than later the studies will catch up with what some of all ready know to be true.

Hello we-R-one. The power of intention is very real--in fact, more than real. It is reality itself. As far as I understand, however, this is exactly why I'm inclined to take the webbot predictions seriously. That's not to say I ever taken the GCE, specifically, or any other webbot forecast as gospel. I just take it seriously, whether it ever materializes in time or not. As far as I understand, the webbot is really nothing but a crude measure of the collective intention, as best this so-called collective intention can be quantified on a subconscious level on the Internet. In my mind, it is a crude measurement and not infallible, and certainly not augural (to say the least) but it is a measure, albeit crude, of the collective intention. I see no contradiction whatsoever in your view of this matter with the OP...

If I have misread your post, or am misguided, by all means I am open to learning more about your perspective.

[Maunagarjana]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

The way I see it is that this world is an illusion, but it's a real illusion. It exists as an illusion, and it seems very real when you're in it, even if you know it's not real. And when it comes to life threatening things, it doesn't matter what you think, your body believes it's real (especially when it comes to physical threats and pain.) Personally, I really don't believe any of it anymore, much less believe in my own identity or life drama, and all that. But that does not mean I stop engaging with life.

The answer is not to be heedless. I think two of the pitfalls of a spiritual seeker is in disregarding things just because they are illusions (after all, those illusions are what you have come to experience!) and disregarding the suffering of beings because you can see their suffering as just more illusions. I think it's very important to practice mindfulness and to treat people's suffering with compassion. I don't think acting in a way "as if" the world and the various dramas and appearances were as real as they seem to be makes things worse at all.

[Maunagarjana]

If it was just Clif I would say he is crazy.
However he got validation for at least the part that was pertaining to his neck of the woods from various remote viewers.
Courtney Brown came up with similar as did Ed Dames.
Some of it seems to have happened---HOWEVER there is the possibility of remote viewers picking up different time lines.
So a time line (I dont really like that expression) can go so far then produce many different end results in multiple universes, at least that's the theory and for all I know its so.
For my money---either we are going to have a changing earth at the current rate or a sudden "earth shattering" change soon or years from now.
The fact that it is changing cant be denied.

Yes, and not only do you have remote viewers saying similar things, but various psychics. And then there are things like the Dolores Cannon sessions that have talked about such events happening. See the first part of this article where Dolores is talking to "Anne":

http://www.transients.info/2012/07/a-summary-of-2012-changes.html

Then there is the Law of One channelings where Ra talked about the possibility of planetary "inconveniences". Here's a quote (I'm sure there are others):


Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. Your time/space continuum has spiraled your planetary sphere and your, what we would call galaxy, what you call star, into this vibration. This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the in-streaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the Earth will thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you might call it.

This is going to occur with some inconvenience, as we have said before, due to the energies of the thought-forms of your peoples which disturb the orderly constructs of energy patterns within your Earth spirals of energy which increases entropy and unusable heat. This will cause your planetary sphere to have some ruptures in its outer garment while making itself appropriately magnetized for fourth density. This is the planetary adjustment.

These are just the things that come to mind at the moment, there are many more. So, it's not just Clif saying these things.

[Calz]

I never believed this, simply because its way over the top, like a movie Hollywood would conjure up.



that you don't believe it doesn't mean it's not possible, or necessary.


Shift happens ... :dirol:

http://www.nature-pictures.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/top-33-most-beautiful-abandoned-places-in-the-world-110.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532911_10151419317457633_735957450_n.jpg

http://messagetoeagle.com/images/cleopatralostkingx.jpg

http://img3i.spoki.tvnet.lv/upload2/articles/63/636580/images/Nogrimuso-pilsetu-senie-8.jpg

[golden lady]

If the Earth is conscious in her own right and I believe she is, then she will do what is needed.
Earth and all who live upon her belong to each other, she means us no harm. The problem is, most humans have become disconnected, we don't hear or even listen to her any more. For if we did we would move out of harms way.
This is where something like Cliffs webbot might be helpful, collecting our group consciousness , which is stronger than individual, to forewarn us.
As for intention to stop or diminish earth changes, perhaps we should only do this on a more local level to lesen the impact and help others through.

[nonesuch]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

A few of my opinions...No one can 'awaken' another spiritually, not in the same way its done in 'the illusion' as you called it. Its not a parallel metaphor. Awakening from a dream and coming back to 'reality' in the physical world is still going from one unpleasant reality in form to a more familiar reality in form. Haven't we all had days when it seemed like we were in a physical nightmare but we couldn't wake up even with another's help? Awakening from all form to the complementary awareness of 'non-form' or 'void' is possibly necessary for 'enlightnement' but there is no way to leap from "form" to 'non-form" using 'formal' methods.

I spent several months some years back, daily sitting a chair to 'meditate' on non-form, knowing full well that the task was not possible while using a technique or a mind. Anything I could imagine to do would be, by definition, 'form' by merely imagining it.

So instead, I would just sit and ask or intend to do the impossible and place my gentlest focus of whatever I could muster—thought, following my breathing, locating the awareness behind my eyes, etc.—on 'nothing' with no expectation of any result and no requests for special favors from the void. I was simply dedicating those moments to the fact that the void was already present 'here' with or without my awareness and therefore there was nothing for me to 'do' but place myself in the position to endure a meaningless practice for the purpose of honoring that sacred truth.

It didn't hurt that I was very depressed those days and felt I was living in the middle of nowhere on earth. (As I told myself back then about living in the middle of nowhere....'well, someone's got to do it' to balance out everyone else who seemed so busy living 'somewhere' and doing something to make their lives either meaningful or at least full of happy distractions.

The void, in my experience, does the awakening, not anyone in ego consciousness and certainly not anyone claiming 'enlightenment'...the very claim of which gives the impression that what is a natural flow of awareness to the enlightened is a commodity to attain for us. This becomes the biggest misdirection of them all for us truth addicts.

The enlightened generally report on what they experience after enlightenement has taken hold. Most of those awarenesses can't even be even thought of, much less put into words without crushing their authenticity. Others often mistake those reports as 'methods' worth imitating, as if the enlightened state can be attained through thought (or any other form). To work with the formless, we learn to accept it on its terms, which to most of us is a big, fat, dull pile of emptiness...but true emptiness,nonetheless.

For the moment, putting the task of enlightenment and other fishing expeditions aside, there are such things as baby steps toward awakening. One of them comes with the realization that our physical reality is extraordinarily flexible, far more than most realists would ever feel safe, intelligent or sane exploring. The thing is that so-called miracles are very practical and real and have measurable impact within the physical plane. I have friends I know well and trust report such things as having witnessed plants and trees grow and blossom a season's worth before their eyes, like time-lapse photography. Now, that takes a refined states of consciousness beforehand... and some gift of grace. I myself have had experiences that might fall into the class of miracles. As I stated above that path is rarely linear or logical by mainstream definitions.

I have been a partner in reducing or eliminating the lag time ordinarily (and unconsciously) needed to align and merge intent with the awareness of grace, while taking leveraged action to rapidly/instantly produce physical and/or multidimensional manifestations that endure beyond the pleasant yet momentary collapse into gratitude.

One person's awareness of such realities can produce, through Universal conductivity, miracles and healings for others who are not yet aware of such possibilities in their daily lives.

So, its possible to change earthquakes and hurricanes or possibly easier to simply bypass them in experience, while others may be inconvenienced or worse by the same events. It's in our power to do far more than most want to bother learning.

The allure of winning battle requires battle consciousness and something or someone to fight in order to succeed or even have fun trying. There's no point in fighting Satan if that being has no power in the realms in which we choose, learn and remember to reside. But we're each free to choose our own path, until it chooses us back, for better or for worse.

Our beliefs 'create,' influence, attract or bring into manifestation the forms that most comply with the totality of our conscious and unconscious awarenesses.

There is a logic to miracles, but its not gained through logical means. It's like learning to dive. When you think about it while attempting it, you end up belly flopping, often giving up before practice produces trust and trust relaxes thought and the act of a successful dive becomes second nature.

My experiences are not dependent on others' belief or agreement, though my awarenesses have influenced others in ways that felt so good they found themselves going all counterintuitive and daring to want to know more about something they usually believed was a waste of time. The only difference with me was that I consciously chose to waste my time in service to the timeless. I can't say anything happened that provided practical guidance to others, but I wasn't intending or expecting otherwise, so it was a grand success.

The cherry on top is that some months I collect food, water and supplies to store for a rainy day. I could always use a tip or two from any realist who specializes in survival. My closet is such a mess of dried beans and dehydrated dinners (romantically, for two), I often can't find the clothes I'm looking for. I'd be disturbed about that if I were about to be transported to my death via overstuffed cattle car, since I'd want to look my best when TSA scanned me at the Pearly Gates. Fortunately, most days a tee shirt and old jeans more than suffice to keep me within reasonable social norms, fashion-wise, even if I've worn them for the last week. Country living and all.

Oh...and, Cliff High. Don't want to go off topic.

[greybeard]

Hi Nonesuch
On topic----maybe Clif reads these posts
If he does I thank him and wish him well.
Now
Thats an excellent post Nonesuch

You can work towards but you cant make it happen---obstacles can be removed etc.
Tim has a great thread here

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904

"This is an account of the direct experience of awakening.

What can be said, or written, of itself cannot reveal the truth.

Words and language are themselves an illusory tool, an aspect of the relative dream, and can only indicate or hint towards the totality, or reality, or that which is.

Upon the moment of awakening not only does the illusion of the relative self or ego vanish like a shadow exposed to light, but all “other” egos, or relative selves, disappear. All separation disappears, and the absolute Self is realized. All is then enlightened and whole, for there never really were separate entities that could become individually enlightened. There then is no relative doer, nor even an absolute doer, for all doing implies separation. Or something to do, or somewhere to go. And not just other humans, but the entire creation is enlightened and whole."

[greybeard]

Ps I think the quality of all posts on this thread is very high.
People are coming from a good place with good intention and good attitude.
Obviously a lot of thought goes in to the various points of view.
The pictures Calz are amazing.
Best wishes to all
Chris

[jiminii]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

A few of my opinions...No one can 'awaken' another spiritually, not in the same way its done in 'the illusion' as you called it. Its not a parallel metaphor. Awakening from a dream and coming back to 'reality' in the physical world is still going from one unpleasant reality in form to a more familiar reality in form. Haven't we all had days when it seemed like we were in a physical nightmare but we couldn't wake up even with another's help? Awakening from all form to the complementary awareness of 'non-form' or 'void' is possibly necessary for 'enlightnement' but there is no way to leap from "form" to 'non-form" using 'formal' methods.

I spent several months some years back, daily sitting a chair to 'meditate' on non-form, knowing full well that the task was not possible while using a technique or a mind. Anything I could imagine to do would be, by definition, 'form' by merely imagining it.

So instead, I would just sit and ask or intend to do the impossible and place my gentlest focus of whatever I could muster—thought, following my breathing, locating the awareness behind my eyes, etc.—on 'nothing' with no expectation of any result and no requests for special favors from the void. I was simply dedicating those moments to the fact that the void was already present 'here' with or without my awareness and therefore there was nothing for me to 'do' but place myself in the position to endure a meaningless practice for the purpose of honoring that sacred truth.

It didn't hurt that I was very depressed those days and felt I was living in the middle of nowhere on earth. (As I told myself back then about living in the middle of nowhere....'well, someone's got to do it' to balance out everyone else who seemed so busy living 'somewhere' and doing something to make their lives either meaningful or at least full of happy distractions.

The void, in my experience, does the awakening, not anyone in ego consciousness and certainly not anyone claiming 'enlightenment'...the very claim of which gives the impression that what is a natural flow of awareness to the enlightened is a commodity to attain for us. This becomes the biggest misdirection of them all for us truth addicts.

The enlightened generally report on what they experience after enlightenement has taken hold. Most of those awarenesses can't even be even thought of, much less put into words without crushing their authenticity. Others often mistake those reports as 'methods' worth imitating, as if the enlightened state can be attained through thought (or any other form). To work with the formless, we learn to accept it on its terms, which to most of us is a big, fat, dull pile of emptiness...but true emptiness,nonetheless.

For the moment, putting the task of enlightenment and other fishing expeditions aside, there are such things as baby steps toward awakening. One of them comes with the realization that our physical reality is extraordinarily flexible, far more than most realists would ever feel safe, intelligent or sane exploring. The thing is that so-called miracles are very practical and real and have measurable impact within the physical plane. I have friends I know well and trust report such things as having witnessed plants and trees grow and blossom a season's worth before their eyes, like time-lapse photography. Now, that takes a refined states of consciousness beforehand... and some gift of grace. I myself have had experiences that might fall into the class of miracles. As I stated above that path is rarely linear or logical by mainstream definitions.

I have been a partner in reducing or eliminating the lag time ordinarily (and unconsciously) needed to align and merge intent with the awareness of grace, while taking leveraged action to rapidly/instantly produce physical and/or multidimensional manifestations that endure beyond the pleasant yet momentary collapse into gratitude.

One person's awareness of such realities can produce, through Universal conductivity, miracles and healings for others who are not yet aware of such possibilities in their daily lives.

So, its possible to change earthquakes and hurricanes or possibly easier to simply bypass them in experience, while others may be inconvenienced or worse by the same events. It's in our power to do far more than most want to bother learning.

The allure of winning battle requires battle consciousness and something or someone to fight in order to succeed or even have fun trying. There's no point in fighting Satan if that being has no power in the realms in which we choose, learn and remember to reside. But we're each free to choose our own path, until it chooses us back, for better or for worse.

Our beliefs 'create,' influence, attract or bring into manifestation the forms that most comply with the totality of our conscious and unconscious awarenesses.

There is a logic to miracles, but its not gained through logical means. It's like learning to dive. When you think about it while attempting it, you end up belly flopping, often giving up before practice produces trust and trust relaxes thought and the act of a successful dive becomes second nature.

My experiences are not dependent on others' belief or agreement, though my awarenesses have influenced others in ways that felt so good they found themselves going all counterintuitive and daring to want to know more about something they usually believed was a waste of time. The only difference with me was that I consciously chose to waste my time in service to the timeless. I can't say anything happened that provided practical guidance to others, but I wasn't intending or expecting otherwise, so it was a grand success.

The cherry on top is that some months I collect food, water and supplies to store for a rainy day. I could always use a tip or two from any realist who specializes in survival. My closet is such a mess of dried beans and dehydrated dinners (romantically, for two), I often can't find the clothes I'm looking for. I'd be disturbed about this if I were about to be transported to my death via overstuffed cattle car, since I'd want to look my best when TSA scanned me at the Pearly Gates. Fortunately, most days a tee shirt and old jeans more than suffice to keep me within reasonable social norms, fashion-wise, even if I've worn them for the last week. Country living and all.

Oh...and, Cliff High. Don't want to go off topic.

in my case the awareness came by accident ...it started when the rain stopped between 2 traffic signals on hollywood ..and started a long chain of miracles I caused by thoughts .... so I am on the other side ... now trying to control my thoughts appearing in the physical universe

example .. I have a corvair van .. I am driving across USA ... i was having all my thoughts going in reverse ,,, "well we have enough gas" puncture in the gas tank .. and everything we do just makes it worse ... well the truck runs good .. all of a sudden something goes wrong and I got to repair it ... well we got plenty of oil ... suddenly oil shoots all over the engine .. and i have to put in all new ... one after another .. oh we got good tires ... we had 5 flat tires the whole trip ... so the last flat tire is in wyoming and we didn't have enough gas to get to salt lake city so I thought "jim don't think any thoughts and we'll make it" .... now I really don't know how it happened but the car just kept running when it should have ran out of gas and no more problems until we got there ..
yes it is an illusion ... but we created this illusion so we can have a game or games to play in it ... and someone didn't like our games put us here ... and made it SO REAL we don't seem to have any control of it .... and I was in trouble ,, all my thoughts happening or reversing of what ever ... this spirit was playing games to let me know what is ... and I could see my thoughts could create anything ...
so I managed to find a book call "the phoenix lectures" by LRH ... and i learned how to control my thoughts ... it is not perfect ... we still have this reverse vector where everything we reach for moves away from us and everything we resist comes at us ... and we have the effort counter effort .. we effort to get something and it makes counter effort ... if we don't have a car it is almost impossible to get the first car ... if we have a car it is easy to get another car ....

it is sooooooo balanced it is like trying to balance a bowling ball on the head of a pin ... the slightest effort creates counter effort so I tried many things

make a flow going away from you ... make a flow coming back ... and do it back and forth and make it less each time ... until you have a very slight forward flow and very slight backward flow and you can find the middle ... and in that middle you are not efforting ..you can make a thought happen

it is a game ... but not an easy game .. being stuck on a planet like this can make a monkey out of and OT (operating thetan god jedi) ...

but there is a way out ... and that is what we are doing

jim

[nonesuch]

Thanks, greybeard for your comments. Agreed. This is a quality thread (among many).

Jimini, having things go all backwards is not funny to the one its happening to, but your description of it made me laugh. The 'creative' nonphysical reality that responds to our human intent actually operates backwards from the physical reality we walk through.

Thus, the outcome we intend is located right where we stand. We're living it. Now. From there, out into the distance, the structural support, the "what" and the "how" arise as a RESULT of the outcome we're living. It's helpful to realize that backward is forward in bizarro world and think accordingly. Our chosen result is ALWAYS first in line; the means and methods, second, while the original inspiration is camping way off on some mountaintop we can barely see.

Also, if we have any unconscious beliefs that contradict our conscious intent, those often show up as obstacles and reversals of which we seem to be passive victims.

There are tons of energy work methods available that address unconscious limiting patterns, removing any vestiges of charge we still have on them and putting our beliefs back into order, replacing them with more effective beliefs, or chucking them all together, leaving space where once there were problems.

Controlling thought is difficult under the best of circumstances, but as long as an unexplored unconscious claims its rightful stake in all decisions, its nearly impossible. Regardless, after years of thinking otherwise, I've come to the conclusion that I'm not in charge of my thoughts. I'm in charge of my intentions, at least while here on Earth.

Sort of like unspoiled royalty, I state out loud to the one whose job it is to control thought (the unconscious, the higher self? you name it, its there to help) my intention of the moment or day, then delegate to my beloved assistant the responsibility of accessing and presenting to me supporting thoughts, circumstances, needed supplies and informed actions, while also communicating my thanks via smoke signals to the original impulse that got the ball rolling.

Within seconds or minutes, 'my' thoughts (and feelings!) gently change on their own, already aligned with my direction (or something better), but not under my control. I say what I want/intend and direct the unconscious/higher self to provide the means and methods for achieving it, then put my feet up until it manifests full blown or at least carrying maps that show me my next steps. For me, delegation is much easier than burdensome control. Just. Not. Possible. Without. Burning. Out.

Outcome: What I say GOES (for the most part) and I don't do the heavy lifting. Even unspoiled royalty has its perqs.

[The Truth Is In There]

maybe i'm the only one who has this problem but what i don't understand in all this is why pretty much everybody who makes doom predictions says stuff like "i hope i'm wrong" or similar things. haven't they looked around? it's not as if we're on our way to paradise.

there's endless talk about how things are getting better and this is being done behind the scenes and that is being worked on and soon all will be well but if you tune out all the love & light dribble and just take look at the world and how it has developed during the last few decades it should become clear to anybody that no, nothing will be well unless something happens that will completely turn us around because we're headed directly towards an abyss.

i've said it before and i'll repeat it ad nauseam...the only thing that can save humanity from either total enslavement or its own extinction is worldwide doom, an event or events that will totally destroy the current civilization so that we are forced to start again from scratch. anything less, that merely tries to correct some mistakes or mitigate our countless problems and does not totally remove them will never work because, no matter what the deluded love & light faction says, the forces that work against a positive development of humanity are, in our current state of affairs, much stronger than those that work for a positive future. too many controlling factors (such as money, governments, certain laws) are in place that prevent most people from finding back to their true "benevolent" state.

catastrophic earth changes and a worldwide destruction of the current system are the only things that can offer us the chance to create a different, positive future, at least for a while because knowing humanity, things will turn foul again soon enough.

[jiminii]

maybe i'm the only one who has this problem but what i don't understand in all this is why pretty much everybody who makes doom predictions says stuff like "i hope i'm wrong" or similar things. haven't they looked around? it's not as if we're on our way to paradise.

there's endless talk about how things are getting better and this is being done behind the scenes and that is being worked on and soon all will be well but if you tune out all the love & light dribble and just take look at the world and how it has developed during the last few decades it should become clear to anybody that no, nothing will be well unless something happens that will completely turn us around because we're headed directly towards an abyss.

i've said it before and i'll repeat it ad nauseam...the only thing that can save humanity from either total enslavement or its own extinction is worldwide doom, an event or events that will totally destroy the current civilization so that we are forced to start again from scratch. anything less, that merely tries to correct some mistakes or mitigate our countless problems and does not totally remove them will never work because, no matter what the deluded love & light faction says, the forces that work against a positive development of humanity are, in our current state of affairs, much stronger than those that work for a positive future. too many controlling factors (such as money, governments, certain laws) are in place that prevent most people from finding back to their true "benevolent" state.

catastrophic earth changes and a worldwide destruction of the current system are the only things that can offer us the chance to create a different, positive future, at least for a while because knowing humanity, things will turn foul again soon enough.

I had that thought too until I found this website ... if we let this disaster happen .. then they can just take the planet with no resistance ... we are the jedi ... the most powerful in the universe and the most powerful from the future came here too to help ... and the force fields have been removed from the planet that traps us here ... this tells me something ... if this now is no longer a prison planet ... then WHO IS WINNING???? .. everyone can leave and go home if they want to ... but NOT ME ... this place has been fought and won by US together as a collective ... a lot up there would just like to take it ... do you want to go back to where you came from? ... if you think the economic duress is bad here ... GO HOME .... and magnify this same USA and GLOBAL GREED ... by the size of this and other galaxies connected to this galactic government ... and that is how much you will have to fight up there ... it is a vacation here compared to what you will deal with up there. the thing is ... this place will have the most powerful in the universe running it ... and NO ONE CAN STOP IT ... and they will have to FOLLOW OUR RIGHTS TO RUN IT AND ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO ... THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ..... They have created all this suppression that brought it down to this level EVERYWHERE and they are trying to make you think it is IDEAL up there ...IT IS NOT ...FAR FROM ... a lot of us came here by CHOICE because we KNEW ... this place is the only available place where we can take it and they can't stop it and after we take it ... WE will be the masters .... but this time we will not tolerate infiltrated groups that will try to destroy it from inside ... we will have an ethics system put in that will make sure that every ones case who is WILLING to change will be able to join us and the rest can just go back to that HELL they came from ... and that is the way it is ... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and we are powerful enough to SAY IT ...AND DO IT
AND MAKE IT A REALITY

it is all up to us ... no .. I put it another way .. since we already WON ... it is up to you if you want to go back to a place a million times worse then here ... I mean .. look this guy just bought himself an SUV ... what do you think you have up there ... ???? they may have better and more technical system .. BUT ... WHO OWNS AND CONTROLS IT ALL??? and how much of it do you get ... and how much freedom do you have .. etc ...

no I am staying here ... I fought for it and I earned it and NO ONE IS GOING TO TAKE MY HOME ... which believe it or not ... I can still travel this world freely ... and I can still buy stuff and make my own game ... they have taken a lot ... but that game is over ...

jim

[greybeard]

Hi The Truth is In There
Oh yes---pruning is necessary for healthy plant growth.
However its "Not in my Back Yard"--- I would not wish hard times or death on anyone including my family.
Its Ok in a way for me who believes in life after death and not actually being Chris but for those who have a different belief system--compassion is, to my mind, required even though all that you say is so.

Im not inferring that you lack compassion for when humans see others in pain and misery virtually every one surprises themselves and rise to the occasion.
The enlightened ones, who say its a cosmic joke more or less, are very often to the forefront helping those in misery to get out of it.
Its possible to have two opposing beliefs at the same time and believe both to be valid.
I believe it may take a major event to cleanse the earth---I also believe its not necessary as I have faith in humankind to evolve into a more compassionate caring species given a few more generations.

Clif is I believe a very compassionate individual.

Chris

[we-R-one]

What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you here, but how can thought stop an earthquake, volcano, tsunami, tornado, hurricane, a hailstorm with hail the size of softballs, etc?

I understand that many people do not realize the power of negative and positive thoughts in their own personal lives, but we are talking about a global coastal event, not the power of positive thinking.

Please do not take this comment as an attack on you or your comments.

Warlock :wizard:

Perhaps maybe I take some of my internal knowledge for granted. There are many studies on the power of intention so you would have to take the time to do the research on your own and draw your conclusion from there. We are all tied into the same energy field and our thoughts do have an effect on our environment in more ways than most even understand. Much of my affirmation comes from personal experience that I cannot prove in the same way that Jiminii can't prove his ability to manipulate the weather. Which is why many of us star seeds will say you are more powerful than you know. This comes from experiencing situations where one can transform their reality through the power of intention whether alone or with others, by manipulating the energy around them in order to obtain the desired results. There is nothing you cannot do or control, it is your belief systems that hold you back from obtaining and implementing this type of power that has the ability to transform your reality. I have no doubt that this is all ready being done in advance civilizations since you are living in the past on planet Earth.

So when I tell you I've been able to speed up time in the car to arrive at my destination quicker, which is known as time dilation, or make someone call me whom I haven't talked to in 10 years and no longer had my number which was unlisted, both through the power of intention which in essence is the manipulation of energy etc, etc....you begin to see the possibilities are endless as to what you can do. As more people understand this, and implement the same belief systems, our world will advance in unimaginable ways. Hopefully sooner than later the studies will catch up with what some of all ready know to be true.

Hello we-R-one. The power of intention is very real--in fact, more than real. It is reality itself. As far as I understand, however, this is exactly why I'm inclined to take the webbot predictions seriously. That's not to say I ever taken the GCE, specifically, or any other webbot forecast as gospel. I just take it seriously, whether it ever materializes in time or not. As far as I understand, the webbot is really nothing but a crude measure of the collective intention, as best this so-called collective intention can be quantified on a subconscious level on the Internet. In my mind, it is a crude measurement and not infallible, and certainly not augural (to say the least) but it is a measure, albeit crude, of the collective intention. I see no contradiction whatsoever in your view of this matter with the OP...

If I have misread your post, or am misguided, by all means I am open to learning more about your perspective.

I understand what you're saying, but it's the way it's being used to instill fear on the masses, as that's how people are "programmed" to process this type of information, so I don't perceive that to be a service; and like a broken record the masses buy into it over and over again. From what I know about the power of intention is, if you keep highlighting the said events, the very focus might have the potential in harboring it's outcome due to the outpouring of attention drawn on a mass scale towards the potential event.

Let me ask, did anyone listen to the warning? Any Avalon members grab their bug-out bag and head for the hills based on this warning? And if you did, do you do it every time you see a warning as such? I know we have several members whom I won't name that live in these areas. Just curious.

How many of these warning predictions are we going to continue to focus our energy on? Eventually I'm sure something will happen as our planet is ever changing, that's just a given. I'm just not seeing the benefit of these warnings in the manner that they're presented as I feel it does more harm than good. Besides the fear it generates is just more food to feed the Archons, lol.

[skippy]

Times have changed, but nothing new under the sun. People are not very different 50 or 500 years ago. We always had people predicting end-times, believers and non-believers. Nobody knows, but who did start the fire?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

[Flash]

I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

I very much like your question. I think we are creators. Either jailed creators within their/its own created matrix or baby creators. Either way, we have to learn how to create.

Right now we are more often than not in our created nightmare - more on conspiracy forums imo - and we have a choice: to wake up and go beyond the illusion or to control the dream and make it joyful and loving.

When my child was small, around 8, i knew she was old enough to understand and i told her that next time she would have a nightmare she could order the bad guys or circumstances to go away. Her nightmares decreased substantially afterward. Now that she is older, she may start understanding that it is all illusion and behave/create accordingly.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Times have changed, but nothing new under the sun. People are not very different 50 or 500 years ago. We always had people predicting end-times, believers and non-believers. Nobody knows, but who did start the fire?

I understand what you are saying about predictions and I agree that end times have always been predicted - HOWEVER, from my perspective many other things have changed dramatically in our historical times and the spiral has been in an up direction. If one looks back several hundred years, humanity and civilization has changed greatly - and for the good.

And yes, I realize that there have been great civilizations before ours that have been destroyed. Perhaps this pattern is also spiraling up and each time it is pushing humans to a higher consciousness to the point where they won't destroy themselves.

There is a theory that how humans think and act effects Gaia - not just in how we are polluting her physically, but how we are polluting her emotionally with our anger, revenge, fear, etc. She reacts to our explosive natures in the same way (volcanoes, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc.). In order to have a peaceful planet we must have peaceful societies.

I don't know if this is true, but it makes sense to me - and while most of us want world peace, how many of us create peace within our workplaces, families, communities, etc. It's been said that our planet is just a reflection of all our hearts. If we want things to change, first we must begin by setting our own hearts right.

I do feel Cliff is providing a service for those interested and his intentions are good. Did most of you listen to the Courtney Brown video posted in this thread. He made a reference to some exciting news that his non-profit will be announcing soon.

[eaglespirit]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch&p=679621&viewfull=1#post679621

[MargueriteBee]

It kinda feels feels like swimming down the river and avoiding the big rocks.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

No matter what the "future" holds, I am continuing to live my life in the present in exactly the same way. Peace.
"No one here gets out alive" ~ Jim Morrison

[skippy]

I understand what you are saying about predictions and I agree that end times have always been predicted - HOWEVER, from my perspective many other things have changed dramatically in our historical times and the spiral has been in an up direction. If one looks back several hundred years, humanity and civilization has changed greatly - and for the good.

Hello Ba-ba-Ra. I see where you coming from, and this tells me that most humans basically do wish and want good. At the same time there is an evolutionary process going on downward to the innermost of the spiral where there is no way back only the unavoidable break-through. To speak about this, is a tricky business.

I add here a video of Terence Mckenna while it's timely and relevant: "You know, Nietzsche, a hundred years ago, said "That strangest of all guests now stands at the door." He was speaking of nihilism, and certainly the 20th century sat down, had the party, drank the booze and went to bed with nihilism, but now a stranger guest stands at the door, and it is the AI." From Terence Mckenna: Shamans among the Machines.

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[Ba-ba-Ra]

I understand what you are saying about predictions and I agree that end times have always been predicted - HOWEVER, from my perspective many other things have changed dramatically in our historical times and the spiral has been in an up direction. If one looks back several hundred years, humanity and civilization has changed greatly - and for the good.

Hello Ba-ba-Ra. I see where you coming from, and this tells me that most humans basically do wish and want good. At the same time there is an evolutionary process going on downward to the innermost of the spiral where there is no way back only the unavoidable break-through. To speak about this, is a tricky business.

I add here a video of Terence Mckenna while it's timely and relevant: "You know, Nietzsche, a hundred years ago, said "That strangest of all guests now stands at the door." He was speaking of nihilism, and certainly the 20th century sat down, had the party, drank the booze and went to bed with nihilism, but now a stranger guest stands at the door, and it is the AI." From Terence Mckenna: Shamans among the Machines.

Skippy, I completely see your point. There does seem to be two teams, one spiraling up and one spiraling down and, IMO, the one spiraling down does seem to be in control as they hold the power. This, from my perspective is why Mother Earth is acting up. I don't know if those of us that are spiraling up, can keep this thing going in the right direction or if we should spend time trying. Each person will decide their role, some by default.

I do feel that there are many levels of consciousness (many of which we're not yet aware of) - I have had some experiences where this has been so for me. Yet, to date, I have not maintained access for any length of time or seemingly by choice (meaning permanently jumping to another timeline or dimension and staying there) and I don't even know if that's possible. I only know that my own life has changed dramatically for the good since I've been studying and applying what I've learned.

Thanks Skippy for the Terence Mckenna video. I actually was at that presentation - good memories.

P.S. I recommend watching this video - lots of good info and very timely.

[Wind]

I share the same views as The Truth Is In There and Greybeard do. There are more and more people awakening and consciousness is spreading, but on the other hand I see humanity heading down a cliff (again) due to man's greed and inability to live in harmony with nature and our fellow beings. My opinion is that we have created a technological nightmare and in just a few decades we most probably have lost our freedoms unless something major has happened...

Something that would force humanity to work together so that we could create a peaceful and a sustainable society. It is not all human's fault since for thousands of years this planet has been under the influence of not so benevolent ET's. They want to see this world filled with chaos and violence. Those powers are feeding the ego's and creating unharmony all around us. So in a sense it has been a battle between the forces of light and darkness, but at the end it is our collective choice that will we continue to exist as a species on this beautiful planet.

The undeniable fact is however that weather is rapidly changing and at best we might be heading towards an mini ice age. I wish suffering to no-one, but personally I don't believe in death. I just see life as a continuing dance between death and rebirth.

[eric charles]

I share the same views as The Truth Is In There and Greybeard do. There are more and more people awakening and consciousness is spreading, but on the other hand I see humanity heading down a cliff (again) due to man's greed and inability to live in harmony with nature and our fellow beings. My opinion is that we have created a technological nightmare and in just a few decades we most probably have lost our freedoms unless something major has happened...

Something that would force humanity to work together so that we could create a peaceful and a sustainable society. It is not all human's fault since for thousands of years this planet has been under the influence of not so benevolent ET's. They want to see this world filled with chaos and violence. Those powers are feeding the ego's and creating unharmony all around us. So in a sense it has been a battle between the forces of light and darkness, but at the end it is our collective choice that will we continue to exist as a species on this beautiful planet.

The undeniable fact is however that weather is rapidly changing and at best we might be heading towards an mini ice age. I wish suffering to no-one, but personally I don't believe in death. I just see life as a continuing dance between death and rebirth.

I dont think its becasue of malevolent E.T's Wind , What would be their goal ,like really . They would have been able to wipe us out since the dawn of man . Why just have a goal to control us , to what purpose ?
I think its humans and solely humans responsible for this mess , no one else !

[donk]

I share the same views as The Truth Is In There and Greybeard do. There are more and more people awakening and consciousness is spreading, but on the other hand I see humanity heading down a cliff (again) due to man's greed and inability to live in harmony with nature and our fellow beings. My opinion is that we have created a technological nightmare and in just a few decades we most probably have lost our freedoms unless something major has happened...

Something that would force humanity to work together so that we could create a peaceful and a sustainable society. It is not all human's fault since for thousands of years this planet has been under the influence of not so benevolent ET's. They want to see this world filled with chaos and violence. Those powers are feeding the ego's and creating unharmony all around us. So in a sense it has been a battle between the forces of light and darkness, but at the end it is our collective choice that will we continue to exist as a species on this beautiful planet.

The undeniable fact is however that weather is rapidly changing and at best we might be heading towards an mini ice age. I wish suffering to no-one, but personally I don't believe in death. I just see life as a continuing dance between death and rebirth.

I dont think its becasue of malevolent E.T's Wind , What would be their goal ,like really . They would have been able to wipe us out since the dawn of man . Why just have a goal to control us , to what purpose ?
I think its humans and solely humans responsible for this mess , no one else !

Why do some humans have "control" as a goal?

Control is an energy exchange, someone gets something out of it.

That's stranger to me to imagine a human that gets anything out of it, than imagining a completely different type of life that feeds off energy it gets from control or fear.

Getting something from either of those is not "human", to me, and the fact that our way of life seems to be based on it seems to me that we (humans) got hijacked (our mindset, at least) along the way.

[eric charles]

Of course we are highjacked , but not by some ET entity (theres no evidenceexept for people sooting $hit out there on forums to believe it ) . Thats too much of an easy answer " oh well its the E.T's " . B.S its much harder to know wich group of humans by individual name that are controlling us , and dont say Rothschild or Rockefeller . They are just the ones on the surfaces . It runs much deeper then just them . These people we have no clue of !

[donk]

dont say Rothschild or Rockefeller . They are just the ones on the surfaces . It runs much deeper then just them . These people we have no clue of !

OK, I won't say Rothschild or Rockefeller. How bout Smith? Jones? There's humans out there that vampires are based on? Cannibals? That derive energy from taking it directly from other humans? And don't say Sociopaths...Rothschild and Rockerfeller are "surface" psychopaths

[greybeard]

As some of you might know my favourite spiritual teacher is the late Dr David Hawkins.
He spoke of the ego being influenced by beings from the lower astral--- as stated on the thread by Wind, its all energy and some thrive on heavy dense energy of fear and violence. I dont care to go into reptilian etc
The influencing is caused according to Dr Hawkins by the likes of gangster rap, seemingly its not the words, though they are bad enough, but a vibration added into the music.
I accept all that is there but my choice is to be focus on all that is good, yet being aware of possible situations which are not life supporting---I feel thats what Clif does.
To the good Dr Hawkins said that the collective consciousness made a massive jump forward at the time of the Harmonic C
He also said that we are becoming Homospiritus, that we will have an new perception seeing things quite differently and that Armageddon type situations would fall on the lower Astral.
Eckhart Tolle, at a talk in London that I was present at about ten years ago, said that the human race is on the brink of making the biggest step forward in the evolution of mankind since we left the sea. So there is a lot of positive far-sight in there.
Basically I dont know.

Chris

[eric charles]

dont say Rothschild or Rockefeller . They are just the ones on the surfaces . It runs much deeper then just them . These people we have no clue of !

OK, I won't say Rothschild or Rockefeller. How bout Smith? Jones? There's humans out there that vampires are based on? Cannibals? That derive energy from taking it directly from other humans? And don't say Sociopaths...Rothschild and Rockerfeller are "surface" psychopaths

This is a discussion that has lasted as long as man , so it will not be settled here my friend hehehe . I was just saying , its very easy to blame it on any group without having solid evidence . Thats all i am getting at .

[donk]

But isn't it just as easy to see it (the mindset, the desire for control, the feeding from fear) is suicidal? The antithesis for what it means to be human?

Or perhaps I'm not "human"? Hey all you starseeds: where do I sign up? I grew out of this "human" failing (nature?) of greed and violence and fear...can I stop calling myself human now??

[Delight]

and i learned how to control my thoughts ... it is not perfect ... we still have this reverse vector where everything we reach for moves away from us and everything we resist comes at us ... and we have the effort counter effort .. we effort to get something and it makes counter effort ... if we don't have a car it is almost impossible to get the first car ... if we have a car it is easy to get another car ....

it is sooooooo balanced it is like trying to balance a bowling ball on the head of a pin ... the slightest effort creates counter effort so I tried many things

make a flow going away from you ... make a flow coming back ... and do it back and forth and make it less each time ... until you have a very slight forward flow and very slight backward flow and you can find the middle ... and in that middle you are not efforting ..you can make a thought happen

it is a game ... but not an easy game .. being stuck on a planet like this can make a monkey out of and OT (operating thetan god jedi) ...
jim

WOW. This is a brilliant statement in a very helpful post. Thanks for this. One factor I gleaned is that to "think" about anything that focuses on any aspect of a potential problem will manifest the problem. Even "positive thinking" about a problem is generating the whole Problem Reaction Solution chain. And one fix is not a cure as the chain is endless.

It is possible to have many things we think that are not problems and this is preferable thought generation. However this is also tricky as any thought can turn to a problem. The best is if one can stop thinking at all.

The big bugaboo I have experienced is that I was trained very well to stick with problem solving and I keep checking back in to thinking about solutions as I hear of a problem.....

But I am certain this is "not thinking" is the best solution I have discovered and I practice not thinking by praying (talking in my heart to Creator)

praising (reporting what I am experiencing and talking to creator about my feeling as I am trying to stay out of judgement)

and being in gratitude for my being and all being to Creator. This is not religious but hygiene for my mind.

It works when I do.

[jiminii]

and i learned how to control my thoughts ... it is not perfect ... we still have this reverse vector where everything we reach for moves away from us and everything we resist comes at us ... and we have the effort counter effort .. we effort to get something and it makes counter effort ... if we don't have a car it is almost impossible to get the first car ... if we have a car it is easy to get another car ....

it is sooooooo balanced it is like trying to balance a bowling ball on the head of a pin ... the slightest effort creates counter effort so I tried many things

make a flow going away from you ... make a flow coming back ... and do it back and forth and make it less each time ... until you have a very slight forward flow and very slight backward flow and you can find the middle ... and in that middle you are not efforting ..you can make a thought happen

it is a game ... but not an easy game .. being stuck on a planet like this can make a monkey out of and OT (operating thetan god jedi) ...
jim

WOW. This is a brilliant statement in a very helpful post. Thanks for this. One factor I gleaned is that to "think" about anything that focuses on any aspect of a potential problem will manifest the problem. Even "positive thinking" about a problem is generating the whole Problem Reaction Solution chain. And one fix is not a cure as the chain is endless.

It is possible to have many things we think that are not problems and this is preferable thought generation. However this is also tricky as any thought can turn to a problem. The best is if one can stop thinking at all.

The big bugaboo I have experienced is that I was trained very well to stick with problem solving and I keep checking back in to thinking about solutions as I hear of a problem.....

But I am certain this is "not thinking" is the best solution I have discovered and I practice not thinking by praying (talking in my heart to Creator)

praising (reporting what I am experiencing and talking to creator about my feeling as I am trying to stay out of judgement)

and being in gratitude for my being and all being to Creator. This is not religious but hygiene for my mind.

It works when I do.

so how do you make your postulates worrk

you choose your words wisely

I want is pulling
i don't want is pushing
I need is pulling
I don't need is pushng
I like being with you iis not pushing or pulling and she will agree

how about finding the perfect girl
well when you want to find out if you like a candy bar or not ..you have to be willing to waste the candy bar

so I get on a dating site and I put my poems there and I don't talk sex ... that is the biggest turn off ever
it shows you are not interested in her you only want her body

I put my poems out there and I end up with about 200 or more chinese girls wanting to talk to me ...

I have so many emails that asianfriendfinder stops my emails and wants to know if I am trying to sell something or do something illegal
I have to call them and tell them I am only sending them my poems

they turned on my email

now you have sooooooooooooooo many girls you can't decide because all of them have this Chinese think of looking at marriage like a kind of business

it means what can they get ... type stuff ... and i get a girl who says she is looking for someone to inspire her

and I send her my poems .. she is in a remote part of china not a place i would look ... but she is perfect ...

so we got married

how about jobs
the biggest and best jobs i got in aerospace with the biggest in the world I simply go in
and let them hire me.

you see the recruiter wants to hire you ... so he has all this stuff he has to say about his company to impress you
so I let him run out his entire tape recorder in his head
smile and keep saying " good .. right ... sounds good .. I got i ... "
at the end of the conversation he knows nothing about me ..and I know everything about him .. so I must be the smartest man in the world ...

so he says "have you got any questions?"
I say, "you got any overtime?" they love this

he says "oh yes plenty of overtime."

he says, "do you want to know the benefits "
I say, " no the over time is ok for me"

he says, "when can you start?"
I say "I can start now"

he says, "ok show up monday"

postulates work by the wording ... if you don't want the effort counter effort then choose words that don't effort either way
if you don't want the pulling pushing ... from reverse vectors ... don't choose words that are pulling or pushing

simple

jim

[InCiDeR]

I said it before, but it is worth repeating:

I just want to point out the major flaw of the webbot. It predicts the future based on 1/3 of earths population, mainly Asia, Europe and North America. What if the others that are not counted for would predict a total different scenario than the webbot?

For the record, I like to listen to Clif High and his predictions. I believe he has good intentions. In my opinion though, his webbot has many flaws, I just pointed out the major one. Still, it is interesting to hear what he has to say. But for me this is not science, it is a belief system based on faith.

---

We as a race have a strong tendency to often exclude people, without give it much of thought, it almost comes natural. Why is that? The cabal likes that mindset very much, maybe they "inserted" that behavior into our minds? The people that are excluded here are with high probablility the ones that are excluded in many other scenarios. It makes me sad.

Who will speak for them on internet?

So if we believe the predictions of the webbot which are based on mainly western/modern society, we will create it. I think it is time for us to include people instead, because I believe that we ALL together will make the change and create the world we all wishing for.



http://www.internetworldstats.com/images/world2012pie.png

World Internet Users and Population Stats (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm)



You also have to take into consideration the censorship:


http://geocurrents.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Internet-Freedom-Map.jpg

[Ba-ba-Ra]

As some of you might know my favourite spiritual teacher is the late Dr David Hawkins.
He spoke of the ego being influenced by beings from the lower astral--- as stated on the thread by Wind, its all energy and some thrive on heavy dense energy of fear and violence. I dont care to go into reptilian etc
The influencing is caused according to Dr Hawkins by the likes of gangster rap, seemingly its not the words, though they are bad enough, but a vibration added into the music.
I accept all that is there but my choice is to be focus on all that is good, yet being aware of possible situations which are not life supporting---I feel thats what Clif does.
To the good Dr Hawkins said that the collective consciousness made a massive jump forward at the time of the Harmonic C
He also said that we are becoming Homospiritus, that we will have an new perception seeing things quite differently and that Armageddon type situations would fall on the lower Astral.
Eckhart Tolle, at a talk in London that I was present at about ten years ago, said that the human race is on the brink of making the biggest step forward in the evolution of mankind since we left the sea. So there is a lot of positive far-sight in there.
Basically I dont know.




Chris



Always enjoy your balanced posts that takes any emotional charge back to neutral.
I agree that consciousness has changed greatly since the Harmonic Convergence, although at the time, many thought nothing had happened. I believe it is the same since 12/21/12. According to many that have studied the Mayan Calender, it was not about astronomy, but rather about the expansion of consciousness - and just as with the Harmonic C., it will be easier to see the growth when looking backward - and this time it will be much quicker than in 1987 or was it l986? ... doesn't matter.

Those who work on the dark side will also be gearing up, but I think it will be more difficult as they will be swimming against the stream - but they are very determined to keep the power, and I believe many of them truly believe they are doing the best thing. Programming is an interesting thing and it's often difficult to sort out what is and what isn't, particularly for those who don't think they have been programmed, but believe they are the best educated.

[sdv]

I said it before, but it is worth repeating:

I just want to point out the major flaw of the webbot. It predicts the future based on 1/3 of earths population, mainly Asia, Europe and North America. What if the others that are not counted for would predict a total different scenario than the webbot?

For the record, I like to listen to Clif High and his predictions. I believe he has good intentions. In my opinion though, his webbot has many flaws, I just pointed out the major one. Still, it is interesting to hear what he has to say. But for me this is not science, it is a belief system based on faith.

---

We as a race have a strong tendency to often exclude people, without give it much of thought, it almost comes natural. Why is that? The cabal likes that mindset very much, maybe they "inserted" that behavior into our minds? The people that are excluded here are with high probablility the ones that are excluded in many other scenarios. It makes me sad.

Who will speak for them on internet?

So if we beliveve the predictions of the webbot which are based on mainly western/modern society, we will create it. I think it is time for us to include people instead, because I believe that we ALL together will make the change and create the world we all wishing for.



http://www.internetworldstats.com/images/world2012pie.png

World Internet Users and Population Stats (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm)



You also have to take into consideration the censorship:


http://geocurrents.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Internet-Freedom-Map.jpg

I did a study of the remote viewing exercise by the Farsight Institute (Courtney Brown). They viewed two places in Africa. I looked at the material from the remote viewers and then the conclusions drawn from what they saw. Courtney Brown concludes that the remote viewers saw evidence of coastal flooding and disaster. As an Africa, I look at the material and conclude that they saw normal African scenes that were misinterpreted through Western analysis (for example, there are salt pans around Mount Kilimanjaro, as there are in Namibia, that fill up during the wet season, every year; anyone who has not been to an African market and has not experienced the widespread poverty in Africa may well interpret the scene as one of disaster).

However, Africa is a large continent and the Farsight Institute only viewed two locations in the North-East, so this does not necessarily mean that Africa will not be affected by a global coastal event.

[Fred Steeves]

I just want to point out the major flaw of the webbot. It predicts the future based on 1/3 of earths population, mainly Asia, Europe and North America. What if the others that are not counted for would predict a total different scenario than the webbot?


One other aspect it doesn't take into consideration is the splitting off of timelines. Not the manipulated type spoken of here often, but a naturally functioning order of things. There could *IMO* be infinite versions of us running along parallel, ranging anywhere from thoroughly engulfed in WW 3 or worse, to a paradise. Maybe Cliff's coastal event has already happened, and maybe I was killed in a head on collision yesterday, but not "here".

Maybe we "choose" courses/timelines with every little thought and action daily, according to our level of awareness...

[greybeard]

Filmmaker, spiritual explorer, and scientist David Sereda talked about possible energy shifts coming around the time of 2012. By comparing the quantum universe (micro solar systems) to astronomical models, as well correlating Hopi prophecy, he's theorized there's going to be a massive energy shift, as our solar system crosses into another "galactic shell." After this shift, he believes the solar system will become lighter, both in weight and spiritual energy.

As we enter this new area/dimension of the galaxy, the sun will release a super high burst of energy and everything will be different-- a blue vapor or cloud will appear suddenly and Earth will enter it, he detailed. Sereda correlated this event with NASA's two windows for intense solar activity/flares-- in 2011 and 2013.

He discussed new discoveries from NASA that pertain to the center of the galaxy, and how dark matter and dark energy are possibly linked to the conscious force of the universe. He also touched on the recent Sky Spiral seen over Norway, which he concluded had too perfect of a pattern to be the result of a Russian rocket mishap. Further, he suggested that most of the planets in our solar system are inhabited by energetic bodies of light or spiritual beings, but our ability to perceive them is very limited.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYIV9HUt4rc

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Filmmaker, spiritual explorer, and scientist David Sereda talked about possible energy shifts coming around the time of 2012. By comparing the quantum universe (micro solar systems) to astronomical models, as well correlating Hopi prophecy, he's theorized there's going to be a massive energy shift, as our solar system crosses into another "galactic shell." After this shift, he believes the solar system will become lighter, both in weight and spiritual energy.

As we enter this new area/dimension of the galaxy, the sun will release a super high burst of energy and everything will be different-- a blue vapor or cloud will appear suddenly and Earth will enter it, he detailed. Sereda correlated this event with NASA's two windows for intense solar activity/flares-- in 2011 and 2013.

He discussed new discoveries from NASA that pertain to the center of the galaxy, and how dark matter and dark energy are possibly linked to the conscious force of the universe. He also touched on the recent Sky Spiral seen over Norway, which he concluded had too perfect of a pattern to be the result of a Russian rocket mishap. Further, he suggested that most of the planets in our solar system are inhabited by energetic bodies of light or spiritual beings, but our ability to perceive them is very limited.




I have believed for some time that the Universe is like an embryo that is programmed (for lack of a better word) to grow at certain stages.

That being said, just as with any other organism, disease can set in for any number of reasons. A global coastal event could be perceived as a disease. If this assumption is true, it could be cured just as any disease in any organism by making changes. The question than is: What kind of changes? Is our planet a reflection of all of us? That thought at first always feels overwhelming to me. How can I change EVERYBODY. But then I remember how if one person changes in a relationship, the other person also changes - and this leads to the l00th monkey theory or critical mass, however, you perceive it.

So, could it be as easy as each one of us setting our own hearts right? Confucius once said (paraphrasing here): We can't expect the leaves on a tree to be healthy and strong, if the roots are not healthy and strong. If we desire world peace, first we must focus on creating peace within our families, workplaces, neighborhoods, etc. It's worth a try.

If not us, than who? If not now, than when?

We can wait until after the disaster hits, and then all locally pull together, which is often the case. The disaster forces us to put aside our petty differences.
OR, we can begin to do it before the disaster hits and avoid the disaster. It's worth a try!

While I believe that what Serada is saying in the above video is true, I also believe it's like everything else - we must do our part.

[T Smith]

I just want to point out the major flaw of the webbot. It predicts the future based on 1/3 of earths population, mainly Asia, Europe and North America. What if the others that are not counted for would predict a total different scenario than the webbot?


One other aspect it doesn't take into consideration is the splitting off of timelines. Not the manipulated type spoken of here often, but a naturally functioning order of things. There could *IMO* be infinite versions of us running along parallel, ranging anywhere from thoroughly engulfed in WW 3 or worse, to a paradise. Maybe Cliff's coastal event has already happened, and maybe I was killed in a head on collision yesterday, but not "here".

Maybe we "choose" courses/timelines with every little thought and action daily, according to our level of awareness...

This is exactly right. Courtney Brown actually accounts for this (he is, after all, a scientist and understands quantum mechanics), while Clif High doesn't subscribe to the timeline thing. In this case, Courtney Brown is in the right camp (IMO). It could be that the webbot/remote viewing actually altered the timeline by alerting enough people (on a conscious level) of the most probable course, thus providing a proverbial roadmap to avert that course. Many have actually taken issue with Courtney Brown and Clif High for promoting fear, but it could be that they actually provided a tremendous service by prodding some conscious reality guides among us -- some of whom have commented in this thread -- into helping forge our collective way onto a more benign timeline.

In the end equation, we all choose our reality. For some, this is more or less a conscious process than with others.

[greybeard]

Saturday, June 1, 2013
88% chance of Atlantic Tsunami Event - Update from Climate Risk Scientist Doctor Simon Atkins


http://www.transients.info/


Worth serious consideration.

Chris

[Calz]

Saturday, June 1, 2013
88% chance of Atlantic Tsunami Event - Update from Climate Risk Scientist Doctor Simon Atkins


http://www.transients.info/

Worth serious consideration.

Chris


Thanx Chris.

Don't disagree ... but let us take note of the June 1st date and the "military grade" remote viewers ...

To be sure there is some serious "stuff" going down ... but me thinks the Universe didn't send us a program.

Once the "timeline" issue comes up my eyes start crossing ... but hey ... dat's me.


http://finchsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/cross-eyed.jpg

[greybeard]

Im with you on time lines--- every thought word and action brings a new potential-- its fluid not a line.
Yes a different potential but I really dont get this affecting another me in another reality. (Multi dimensional)
AND regardless of my words thoughts and deeds What god (collective) wants, god gets.

Chris

[bennycog]

Hey Greybeard,
I will add Doctor Simon Atkins tweet account for others to follow too..
I see he makes a lot of comments about the hindenburg omen which is what I consider to be only in relation to a stock market collapse, a warning, a prediction of sorts..

https://twitter.com/DrSimonAtkins

[jiminii]

Im with you on time lines--- every thought word and action brings a new potential-- its fluid not a line.
Yes a different potential but I really dont get this affecting another me in another reality. (Multi dimensional)
AND regardless of my words thoughts and deeds What god (collective) wants, god gets.

Chris

depends on how powerful your postulates are ... and you don't need agreement ... you can decide to be senior to all of it ... and if your postulates succeed take a win

jim

[jiminii]

Im with you on time lines--- every thought word and action brings a new potential-- its fluid not a line.
Yes a different potential but I really dont get this affecting another me in another reality. (Multi dimensional)
AND regardless of my words thoughts and deeds What god (collective) wants, god gets.

Chris

depends on how powerful your postulates are ... and you don't need agreement ... you can decide to be senior to all of it ... and if your postulates succeed take a win

jim

wow awesome .... you made me look at something ... ok if I have a body on a command ship then whatever might be audited in the future would affect those viewpoints too but maybe not in the same way .. since I am not outside my body with this body on this planet... I don't get the benefit of what the viewpoint gets because it is blocked from view by this body ... but something does happen that kind of leaks over to this side and things and viewpoints change ... now it might give each other viewpoint of all the other bodies a different realization .. because are dealing with concepts ... so the concepts could work for almost any area of this universe ... one could say it in farmers words and another could say it in political terms and another in engineering terms ... lets them each in their own sphere of influence be more cause in some way

jim

[Hervé]

RE: Intent

[...]

No, I do no not believe that you can change the course of an incoming asteroid or change the laws of physics and remove pressure from a fault line.

[...]

Time will tell...

No need to believe if you can confront this fact, as related by Bill, for what it is:


[...]

Of interest: I know, quite well, the one person in the original 1970s SRI RV research team who was more able than Ingo Swann. This person is still alive, and was a close friend of Ingo till he left us a few months ago.

Back in the project, this person irritated Ingo greatly after they and Ingo has been singled out to take part in a kind of psychic tug-of-war -- which took place not at the SRI, but at Livermore Labs. The 'contest' was to see which one of the two could bend a laser beam one way, or the other. (Ingo to the left, my friend to the right.)

My friend won, and Ingo was pissed. My friend then realized that he had better start playing really dumb -- or he'd end up working for the government. He carefully flunked every subsequent test, and eventually dropped out of the program. There's smart for you.

:)

Of further interest, I'm given to understand that this lovely little anecdote has never been written about or made public. You read it here first!

... and... has time said anything yet?

[sdv]

No global coastal event here, but winter has suddenly got very mean on the southern tip of Africa. It is so darn cold (OK, finding 11 degrees centigrade unacceptably cold, needing three layers of clothing, a blanket and wall heaters on, sounds like sissy stuff for those living in the lands of snow and ice and frost, but for an African, that is confusingly miserably cold) and the rain is fierce - it sounded like the rain god was hurling huge raindrops with incredible force (not like hail ... I could hear that it was water droplets and not ice crystals being hurled with such force from the sky) and I thought it was going to come through the roof last night. Heard from a friend in southern Australia and they have also been having a huge lot of rain.

I keep singing the same song, but I think the webbot and the remote viewers have authentically seen something in the future but the interpretation is wonky. Life on Earth can be very unpredictable and strange, and huge disasters are a perennial story of life on Earth. We have the pictures of something very strange and unpredictable that is going to happen that is going to affect many people around the world, but we do not have the whole story of where and what and how and when.

Let's keep looking and digging and constructing different stories and then examining them.

[skippy]

No global coastal event here, but winter has suddenly got very mean on the southern tip of Africa. It is so darn cold (OK, finding 11 degrees centigrade unacceptably cold, needing three layers of clothing, a blanket and wall heaters on, sounds like sissy stuff for those living in the lands of snow and ice and frost, but for an African, that is confusingly miserably cold)

It has been cold here too for the season on the main european continent. Definitely something going on there, strange weather patterns indeed...

[T Smith]

Im with you on time lines--- every thought word and action brings a new potential-- its fluid not a line.
Yes a different potential but I really dont get this affecting another me in another reality. (Multi dimensional)
AND regardless of my words thoughts and deeds What god (collective) wants, god gets.

Chris

The physics of it is more of an energy field, from which one reality manifests per the observer -- or what god (collective) wants, god gets, if you prefer. The "one" electron of a hydrogen atom, to simply for sake of illustration, is not really an electron... it's more an energy cloud of infinite electrons existent everywhere at once outside 3d space-time, including inside the nucleus of the atom. He who beholds this non-physical energy field collapses the wave function in space-time, and in a very real sense, manifests one electron and one proton in our universe out of infinite possibilities. All those other realities don't necessarily exist in space-time as we understand it, or even on another timeline or in another universe; they are just energy. Similarly, there are infinite greybeards, and you, as the conscious actor, move through this energy field and manifest your life nanosecond by nanosecond. The other "you" that is affecting "you" is you....

[Calz]

For those interested ... post June 1st "woo":


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[jiminii]

No global coastal event here, but winter has suddenly got very mean on the southern tip of Africa. It is so darn cold (OK, finding 11 degrees centigrade unacceptably cold, needing three layers of clothing, a blanket and wall heaters on, sounds like sissy stuff for those living in the lands of snow and ice and frost, but for an African, that is confusingly miserably cold)

It has been cold here too for the season on the main european continent. Definitely something going on there, strange weather patterns indeed...

don't worry about other timelines even if they are your timelines ... those timelines are run by another you using another viewpoint ... just work with this timeline you can see and operate in ...

the queen bee is the spirit (static thetan) itself .. the viewpoint is you operating in or out of this body you are in ,,,,so the queen bee is running other you's (bees) ,,, but they are using their eyes ... and their think


jim

[jiminii]

Im with you on time lines--- every thought word and action brings a new potential-- its fluid not a line.
Yes a different potential but I really dont get this affecting another me in another reality. (Multi dimensional)
AND regardless of my words thoughts and deeds What god (collective) wants, god gets.

Chris

depends on how powerful your postulates are ... and you don't need agreement ... you can decide to be senior to all of it ... and if your postulates succeed take a win

jim

wow awesome .... you made me look at something ... ok if I have a body on a command ship then whatever might be audited in the future would affect those viewpoints too but maybe not in the same way .. since I am not outside my body with this body on this planet... I don't get the benefit of what the viewpoint gets because it is blocked from view by this body ... but something does happen that kind of leaks over to this side and things and viewpoints change ... now it might give each other viewpoint of all the other bodies a different realization .. because are dealing with concepts ... so the concepts could work for almost any area of this universe ... one could say it in farmers words and another could say it in political terms and another in engineering terms ... lets them each in their own sphere of influence be more cause in some way

jim

I will give you an example of this ... 2 people have shops next to each other and have been fighting for years ... then one got audited and found the source of the fight ... the other managed to find out where he was and told him "I don't want to fight any more ... let's be friends"

so say you have 10 viewpoints ... you would be like the bee running all these 10 other bees ...
they would be running other bodies ... so if you heal something in you ... it will be healed in all the 10 other bodies too ,,,

jim

[GrnEggsNHam]

Filmmaker, spiritual explorer, and scientist David Sereda talked about possible energy shifts coming around the time of 2012. By comparing the quantum universe (micro solar systems) to astronomical models, as well correlating Hopi prophecy, he's theorized there's going to be a massive energy shift, as our solar system crosses into another "galactic shell." After this shift, he believes the solar system will become lighter, both in weight and spiritual energy.

As we enter this new area/dimension of the galaxy, the sun will release a super high burst of energy and everything will be different-- a blue vapor or cloud will appear suddenly and Earth will enter it, he detailed. Sereda correlated this event with NASA's two windows for intense solar activity/flares-- in 2011 and 2013.

He discussed new discoveries from NASA that pertain to the center of the galaxy, and how dark matter and dark energy are possibly linked to the conscious force of the universe. He also touched on the recent Sky Spiral seen over Norway, which he concluded had too perfect of a pattern to be the result of a Russian rocket mishap. Further, he suggested that most of the planets in our solar system are inhabited by energetic bodies of light or spiritual beings, but our ability to perceive them is very limited.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYIV9HUt4rc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Trilogy
These 3 books from C.S. Lewis may interest you if you haven't already read them. He names these energetic light beings "eldila".

[eric charles]

No global coastal event here, but winter has suddenly got very mean on the southern tip of Africa. It is so darn cold (OK, finding 11 degrees centigrade unacceptably cold, needing three layers of clothing, a blanket and wall heaters on, sounds like sissy stuff for those living in the lands of snow and ice and frost, but for an African, that is confusingly miserably cold) and the rain is fierce - it sounded like the rain god was hurling huge raindrops with incredible force (not like hail ... I could hear that it was water droplets and not ice crystals being hurled with such force from the sky) and I thought it was going to come through the roof last night. Heard from a friend in southern Australia and they have also been having a huge lot of rain.

I keep singing the same song, but I think the webbot and the remote viewers have authentically seen something in the future but the interpretation is wonky. Life on Earth can be very unpredictable and strange, and huge disasters are a perennial story of life on Earth. We have the pictures of something very strange and unpredictable that is going to happen that is going to affect many people around the world, but we do not have the whole story of where and what and how and when.

Let's keep looking and digging and constructing different stories and then examining them.


Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaattt LOl , maybe its just me or Im too Canadian , but its 9 degreees C here, and im out in swim shorts with just a thin longsleeved shirt working outside hahahaha . your winters are our Summers ahahahahaha

[eric charles]

Well I guess this whole GCE event was in fact a non-event , thank god for that hahaha . I guess I can plan a nice little fishing trip on the river with my son .

[greybeard]

Dr Simon Atkins
relates everything that did come about around the time of his forecast.
He accurately predicted the meteorite that blew up over Russia.
We are not out of the woods yet regarding meteorites
Any way there is an enormous amount of information in the talk which I got following links on this site.
http://www.transients.info/

There is always a lot of information on the site.
Clif High is also quoted on the site.
http://halfpasthuman.com/essays/gce_on.html
Thanks to Wind for pointing me to it.

Chris




http://www.blogtalkradio.com/phoenix3333/2013/06/12/special-guest-dr-simon-atkins-ceo-advanced-forecasting-c

[gripreaper]

Sure glad Clif cleared that up! How prescient!!

we need to note that the 'global coastal event' is on-going. While the future forecasting ability of Remote Viewing has been put to rest by the Far Sight 2012 Climate Study failure (other than Dick Algire's ability being demonstrated), it is quite clear that our HPH work forecasting a global coastal event has been very prescient indeed.

i forecast a large earthquake to occur along with bridge collapses (even here in WA state) that would lead to the use of the word 'isolation'....these occurred, albeit NOT as forecast by the RV work. We had forecast the beginning of the 'global coastal event' to start prior to June and to be concurrent with a 'data gap'. Both of these also are manifesting. As have hundreds (yes, actually several hundred) of our 'smaller' forecasts.

Our linguistic approach has proven, yet again, to be able to presciently predict future events, especially weather/climate related. We have global reports of massive, record breaking floods, as well as coastal shorelines being 'eroded' due to rising waters. We can also note the impact of rising waters on our local shoreline here in Puget Sound.

It appears that the 'global coastal event' as forecast here at Halfpasthuman since 2003 is going to be a multiple decade long process as the planet expands, and then 'settles back into its skin'. This may be better than taking our planetary change all at once.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/essays/gce_on.html

[Hervé]

No shame?

Me think the guy's gone around the bent and not coming back.

The logic of having an expanding earth causing a rise of water level beats me... I could see that with a shrinking earth but not an expanding one... the latter would thin the water available to cover a larger surface...

[RMorgan]

It appears that the 'global coastal event' as forecast here at Halfpasthuman since 2003 is going to be a multiple decade long process as the planet expands, and then 'settles back into its skin'. This may be better than taking our planetary change all at once.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/essays/gce_on.html

Hahahahahahaha! Sorry guys, but this is so funny.

Remembers me of David Wilcock, when he said something like this about ascension, after his 2012 fiasco: " I´m sure it will happen between now and whenever..."

You know, regarding predictions, it´s proven not to be a good long-term business; There´s always a time where one have to give up dates and admit that it simply doesn´t work like that.

[jiminii]

It appears that the 'global coastal event' as forecast here at Halfpasthuman since 2003 is going to be a multiple decade long process as the planet expands, and then 'settles back into its skin'. This may be better than taking our planetary change all at once.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/essays/gce_on.html

Hahahahahahaha! Sorry guys, but this is so funny.

Remembers me of David Wilcock, when he said something like this about ascension, after his 2012 fiasco: " I´m sure it will happen between now and whenever..."

You know, regarding predictions, it´s proven not to be a good long-term business; There´s always a time where one have to give up dates and admit that it simply doesn´t work like that.

all the predictions are being made from the future .... it will go how they want it to go ...
the only one that can change that is me .... hahahahhaha

of course if you can make your postulates more powerful than mine ... I will be soooooo happy to see it ... means .. some more here can take responsibility too

this might sound obstinate but I have mess up more weather mans predictions then you can imagine ... I tried to get others to practice too ... but ... my only chance is to find those from the future that are on this website and then we can really play some games ..... good games ..

jim

[ulli]

I knew a guy who filled up a lake in Mexico in just two weeks, after a long drought that was beginning to worry his girlfriend. He worked with maps. Using the principle 'as above, so below'.
I met both men and women who were able to pull these stunts.
On the whole the men used to believe they were unique and the only ones,
while the women knew that there were others,
but since they weren't as competitive as the men
they weren't bothered by that. Just did what had to be done, where and when.

[greybeard]

I had success in manifesting quite a few things which were life changing/supporting for me and or others.
Sometimes absolutely nothing came of it in-spite of my best intention and effort.
Sometimes healing happened for others to a greater or lesser degree.
I could not guarantee results.

Now here is the question---What exactly put it into my mind to do this?

Now I accept that there are events that are for the greater good that I cant influence--- and some for the greater good that can be influenced.

Over all my thoughts are If God created the world then its His responsibility to look after it and all upon it.
If He inspires people to act fine.

Its not for me to judge or know the big picture.

If something for the greater good is meant to come about then it will.
Im not thinking about anything specific like a coastal event and I have no desire for anyone to suffer, quite the contrary.

A regular prayer is "May all sentiment beings in creation live in peace, love and harmony."
Also "Thy will, not my will be done"
So if anyone feels that they can bring about positive results I wish them well and a life supporting outcome.

Chris

[MargueriteBee]

My roommate has been scared ****less because of Clif's preditions. I wish he would stop. I think he causes more harm than good.

[marlowe]

My roommate has been scared ****less because of Clif's preditions. I wish he would stop. I think he causes more harm than good.

I have been following Clif's work daily for the past 4 years...His predictions are usually correct BUT his timing is often wrong....
Here is one example of correct timing...6 months before the Icelandic volcano erupted Clif said in his hard copy ALTA

report that jet planes would not fly because of volcanic dust in the air around the spring equinox of 2010....

This was when air traffic was shut down in Europe about the time of "the spring equinox of 2010"....

It was a perfect hit except for location...which was not predicted...