The Plan To “Take Back America” – Place ALL state and federal capitols under ‘Civil Disobedient’ Siege

[risveglio]

I guess there is a plan to go with the July 4th march. I really do not know what to make of it but those demands sound nice to me.

http://americasvoicenow.org/the-plan-to-take-back-america-place-all-state-and-federal-capitols-under-civil-disobedient-siege/

[sirdipswitch]

Yep!! Sounds great, but... won't happen. problem being, is... the Unified Masses... believe the nightly news. End of story! And THIS movement.:wizard:

[Observer1964]

I really hope this is gonna make it.
Really hope the people take America back
The rest of the world is praying for it...

I think most ppl see the writting on the wall by now...

[ghostrider]

this is just what they want , then they can roll out martial law and the military ... its a trap ... the idea is great, the result would be sanity, but consider the ptb and their reaction, cause and effect ... if your gonna do this , you need the military on the side of the public ...

[Warlock]

So what about the "agent provocateur's"?

Who will stop them?

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[Observer1964]

this is just what they want , then they can roll out martial law and the military ... its a trap ... the idea is great, the result would be sanity, but consider the ptb and their reaction, cause and effect ... if your gonna do this , you need the military on the side of the public ...

So what about the "agent provocateur's"?

Who will stop them?

Warlock :noidea::noidea:

Look at history, when the Nazi's took control in germany and the people did nothing, the rest of the world joined forces and bombed the country to rubble, killing millions of people.
I think the people are better of doing it [taking the country] than the russian and chinese armies doing it for them.

And I think/hope/expect the american soldiers wont fire upon the people.

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and even the police must realise what is at stake...

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The people are the country

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[Observer1964]

and we are all afraid, but that is exactly why it needs to be done...

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[Lost Soul]

Easiest way to bring things to a halt is not pay the Eye Are Ess.

[eric charles]

Its about time , the couch potatoes get up off their collective behinds and standup , if i would be American i would be there in a heartbeat . But unfortunelty they would definetly not let me pass the border with my handgun and a rifle so lol

[Observer1964]

Its about time , the couch potatoes get up off their collective behinds and standup , if i would be American i would be there in a heartbeat .
If the interest in this thread is indicative, dont expect to much action from the people.
Damm shame, I guess history has to repeat itself again.

[Freed Fox]

Look at history, when the Nazi's took control in germany and the people did nothing, the rest of the world joined forces and bombed the country to rubble, killing millions of people.
I think the people are better of doing it [taking the country] than the russian and chinese armies doing it for them.

And I think/hope/expect the american soldiers wont fire upon the people.


The people of Germany didn't 'do nothing'. Many of them supported Hitler...at least initially. When the writing on the wall became clear, many who were opposed to the Nazi regime fled the country, while others actively engaged in resistance (German Resistance to Nazism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Resistance_to_Nazism)).

Furthermore, you suggested it yourself, but I would go further in stating outright: the military will not turn on the citizens of the United States. Certainly, there are a few who would be willing, but the majority are fighting for their fellow Americans rather than the government itself or some inflated sense of patriotism. That is a bygone age. There might be a lot of perceived oppression and rights abuses, but it is still a far cry from Nazi Germany.

The so-called PTB are becoming increasingly arrogant with their moves against the populace. The unintended consequence is that their actions are waking more and more people up to these realities, rather than engendering complacence.

Taking to the streets right now is not likely to result in much more than incarceration. It gives them an excuse to lock you up for an extended period of time, ruining many future prospects in your life. Many observers and investigators see their actions as becoming almost desperate, like they're behind their own schedule and trying to make up for lost time. Sooner or later they will shoot themselves in the foot. Again, they may have successfully recruited a number of sociopaths, but the bulk of the military is with the people and thus, so is the power when push comes to shove.

The real battle is within ourselves. That is the realization which would truly serve to dramatically improve both the United States and the rest of the world at large. These external sociopolitical dramas tend to distract from that larger and more significant reality.

[Observer1964]

Look at history, when the Nazi's took control in germany and the people did nothing, the rest of the world joined forces and bombed the country to rubble, killing millions of people.
I think the people are better of doing it [taking the country] than the russian and chinese armies doing it for them.

And I think/hope/expect the american soldiers wont fire upon the people.


The people of Germany didn't 'do nothing'. Many of them supported Hitler...at least initially. When the writing on the wall became clear, many who were opposed to the Nazi regime fled the country, while others actively engaged in resistance (German Resistance to Nazism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Resistance_to_Nazism)).
I am aware of german history, germany is next door for me, I live 30 km from the dutch/german border and I even lived in germany for about 2 years and served a year in the dutch airforce stationed in germany. I rented a house from family of Rudolf Hess for a while in a smal village where more family members of famous names had fled to at the end of ww2. Other neighbours were family of Goering (family of the luftwaffe chief). I only discovered it when we moved out and the new tenant greeted my landlord with Heil Hitler (they didn't see me as I was around a corner putting stuff in boxes in the garage) I thought i was hallucinating when I heard that :eek:



Furthermore, you suggested it yourself, but I would go further in stating outright: the military will not turn on the citizens of the United States. Certainly, there are a few who would be willing, but the majority are fighting for their fellow Americans rather than the government itself or some inflated sense of patriotism. That is a bygone age. There might be a lot of perceived oppression and rights abuses, but it is still a far cry from Nazi Germany.

The so-called PTB are becoming increasingly arrogant with their moves against the populace. The unintended consequence is that their actions are waking more and more people up to these realities, rather than engendering complacence.

Taking to the streets right now is not likely to result in much more than incarceration. It gives them an excuse to lock you up for an extended period of time, ruining many future prospects in your life. Many observers and investigators see their actions as becoming almost desperate, like they're behind their own schedule and trying to make up for lost time. Sooner or later they will shoot themselves in the foot. Again, they may have successfully recruited a number of sociopaths, but the bulk of the military is with the people and thus, so is the power when push comes to shove.

The real battle is within ourselves. That is the realization which would truly serve to dramatically improve both the United States and the rest of the world at large. These external sociopolitical dramas tend to distract from that larger and more significant reality.
I think that is always the case, how much do the pl take before they had enough and start fighting back.
But in other parts of the world ppl are dying from american weapons, so there is some impatience.

[Freed Fox]

But in other parts of the world ppl are dying from american weapons, so there is some impatience.

That is indeed true, unfortunately, but also something that isn't going completely ignored in the states.

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Also, I apologize if I implied ignorance on your part re: Germans circa WWII. Generally I do believe that people ARE waking up. Rome wasn't built in a day, nor did it fall in a day. No one in his or her right mind wants to be a part of an evil empire, so such a revelation does not come easily (even in the face of abundant evidence).

[Dennis Leahy]

Did you read the plan?

There are numerous terrible ideas thrown together with a few good ones.

Problem number ONE: no method of changing the electoral paradigm is even proposed. That shows a deep ignorance of the real problem with the lack of citizen representation. Fire all of them, but leave the electoral paradigm (that they designed/"gamed") as it is, and we will simply fill all seats with the same type, from the same pool. The organizers of this have no idea that the electoral paradigm is poisoned from the very first step: that the top of the 2 parties' hierarchical structure pre-selects the pool of candidates. Those individuals pre-selected by the "Elite" then fight it out, and we ultimately vote for one of them - and pretend that we have real elections. Talk about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!

Three more years for the Federal Reserve to do it's dirty work! HA! And money backed by gold... in a nation whose government has very little gold? HA!

This is either an attempt that is not well thought-out, or is a "limited hangout" engineered by the bastards in power to stay in power.

If US citizens are serious about actually changing the system so that citizens are in control and not the hired minions of international bankers, corporations, and oligarchs, then a new, completely different method of elections must be implemented FIRST. It is the foundation for real change. Anything less is a parade with fireworks - at best.

The Reset Button (http://www.resetbutton2012.org/) document outlines and drills-down to specifics for electoral paradigm transformation.

USA politicians do not run the USA! USA politicians temporarily manage the running of the USA for international bankers, corporations, and oligarchs.

Dennis

[humanalien]

Easiest way to bring things to a halt is not pay the Eye Are Ess.

I've been saying that for a long time. If you quit paying
all taxes, eventually, the government will dry up and die.

Your basically paying these people to hunt you down and kill
you at their whim, or to have them beat you up when they
feel like it.

When you pay your taxes, like a good little american, all the
government does is grow and expand. Take away their source
of power, so that you can take back yours.