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BrianEn
26th May 2013, 14:27
They say I should be able to love everyone. Like they say hate the game not the player, but doesn't a player choose to play they game? I'm supposed to love these people if I want to find God. Sounds like dogma to me, but I don't like to hate. It's a waste of time.
When I see someone who enjoys making other people's an uncomfortable place to be, I just can't help to hate. They seem to be just unhappy nasty people who just have no one other than people who are scared of them. It's actually quite sad that their lives have deterorted to such a sad level.
I don't know maybe I just need to understand these people more? Understanding usually makes things easier.

Orph
26th May 2013, 14:55
You can't control other people, what they say or do. And it does no good to hate anyone or any thing. And, in my opinion, you're not always going to be able to understand some of these people either. It's a waste of time to try.

For me, I find it helps to take the people out of the equation. When a person (or an event), makes me angry, I take that feeling of anger and hold it inside of me. Then I let go of the person/people that "caused" the anger. Forget about the person or event. Let it go its own way. You have no control over it/them anyway. This anger is really just energy. So now I'm holding this anger energy and it's mine. I own it now. And I simply let love surround the anger energy and turn it to love energy.

Let yourself BE love. Let the rest go.

spiritguide
26th May 2013, 14:57
Hate in any form, (thought or act emitting from) is a wall, that if not overcome deters one from progressing towards balance in life. Emitting negative energies opens one up to having them reflect back upon oneself and cause dis-ease.

Peace be with you!

BrianEn
26th May 2013, 15:12
That's the thing you become what you hate. This has been a long process for me. I have done a lot of forgiving with family and have begun the restoration part with them. That was huge for me. They seem to have wanted to change also so they're meeting me half-way.

bruno dante
26th May 2013, 15:43
I don't think you have to love evil necessarily; it may be enough to simply not hate it.

BrianEn
26th May 2013, 15:46
That's why I added a ? to the title. It's just best that I don't hate them.

white wizard
26th May 2013, 16:17
Good and evil are tools of duality, which are put here to teach us. I

think it is key to understand evil as a tool of learning before people

blindly say they love it without understanding it. Loving evil is the

key to counteracting it, but in order to move past evil you must also

understand the uses for it. I am not saying loving evil is bad, but you

must also understand it's purpose too before blindly loving it.

Chris Gilbert
26th May 2013, 16:36
"Love" is the outcome of compassion, which comes from awareness and simply seeing things as they are, without any judgement, whether positive or aversive. Develop awareness first and the rest will follow.

ThresholdRising
26th May 2013, 17:02
No person is born evil. They grow up and learn new behaviours, new ways of thinking and being which are percieved evil.

When you break it down, nothing is actually evil, only percieved as evil. You just have to keep remembering to the point you know this before these situations arise so as they , happen you feel differently to these beings when they do something you percieve evil. Its a little harder than it sounds but continously working day by day you'll be living a different present moment when these situatiions arise.

Sunny-side-up
26th May 2013, 17:30
Think of controlling Evil and the Hate energies it causes as if your using Martial-Arts of defense on it.
Turn the feelings and thoughts thrown at you into a Visualized-Energy.
This incoming energy is the opponents Fist/Arm.
You time your move and gently touch the inside of the opponents arm/fist/Bad Energy with the outside of your hand.
Now moving with the fist turn your hand and arm out and around the Fist/Bad-Energies.
When you've done that, keeping in contact with the fist you now turn your hand round and down taking the Opponents/fist/Bad-Energies even the whole Opponent to the ground.
You are now in total control of the Fist/Bad-Energy. you are holding it down with ease and because you are not using bad intent yourself the bad energy won't harm you.
You can now: Hold the energies, Convert the energies or just Deflect it like an Unwanted-Bug with no Bad Intent Added!
Just wafted away.

I used to have a Visualized greedy pet hate muncher which I feed the captured Bad-Energies to.He would simply eat them and grow happy after a good meal. He is still around, free to hunt bad energies to eat. It even has offspring now doing the same!

This is just all visualization methods I used to use back when bad-things used to affect me.

These methods can even turn the negative energies into a exercise of fun for gaining your own visualization skills.
Some energies can turn into battles, not just a simple deflection but a mind/visualization wrestling match.

Just step back out of contact if you can't tackle the Fist/Bad-Energy/Your_Emotions. Walk away safe and or engage again until you have vanquished the evil that attacked you.
Enjoy!
Learn Martial-Arts-Visualization for defense but never for anger.

GCS1103
26th May 2013, 18:12
Hate is a draining emotion that stops us from continuing on our journey here. I believe, at some time during our lives, everyone may experience the feeling of "hate." It may be due to something terrible that another person has done to us or a loved one. It could be just a situation where we are nothing more than observers to an injustice to someone else. In either case, I cannot deny that I have felt hate at some points in my life, which was oppressive to me. It can consume us to the point that it removes our feelings of "love."

I have learned to put that hate out of my mind and move forward. In my belief system, there is no need for me to use precious time and energy on another person who is cruel. I believe there is a great Equalizer who does that instead. My Equalizer is God. Whatever one believes, I think it's beyond our control, as humans, to stop evil completely in this world. What we do have the ability to control and remove from our lives is "hate".

naste.de.lumina
26th May 2013, 20:53
BrianEn friend.
From what I understand, both good and evil are extremes of the same energy.
If our (planet earth) existed only one polarity of this energy, which makes both of them, would require more time for our evolution, because the chances of experiencing would be reduced to 50%.
I imagine it should not be easy for a spirit that decided to try the evolution through the downside as the upside.
But these guys are important components of the game, it would not be possible for the spirits who have chosen to evolve the positive side, playing without opposites.
Now, at this point we find evil so unfair, cruel, unnecessary, but it is a fundamental part of our evolution, at least here in 3D.
So, the question is not like or dislike of evil, but understand why it is present and it is important part of the evolution of all.
Understand the evil and love the love.
My small contribution.

Sunny-side-up
26th May 2013, 22:13
BrianEn friend.
From what I understand, both good and evil are extremes of the same energy.
If our (planet earth) existed only one polarity of this energy, which makes both of them, would require more time for our evolution, because the chances of experiencing would be reduced to 50%.
I imagine it should not be easy for a spirit that decided to try the evolution through the downside as the upside.
But these guys are important components of the game, it would not be possible for the spirits who have chosen to evolve the positive side, playing without opposites.
Now, at this point we find evil so unfair, cruel, unnecessary, but it is a fundamental part of our evolution, at least here in 3D.
So, the question is not like or dislike of evil, but understand why it is present and it is important part of the evolution of all.
Understand the evil and love the love.
My small contribution.

Yes naste.de.lumina I believe this also.
This is why I have come to except pain, suffering, evils in this dimension. I do not hate those who have chosen the task of the dark-side, I do not focus hate back at them in anyway. they have the task of bringing evils into our lives so to help ease there souls I deflect and transmute the products as best I can. this way they have done what they had to and given someone else the chance to combat it with love, they drive the good side to greater heights.
We are all one, the light and our shadow walk the same path, hand in hand together we can travel faster.

BrianEn
27th May 2013, 12:49
My thing was I was easily disturbed by people's behavior. It didn't make sense to me. The biggest thing as a shut in I have little to distract me. I have a lot of time to think. It's hard to find enough hobbies to keep me busy enough not to think. I guess I just to lump it somehow.

Rich
27th May 2013, 18:32
My thing was I was easily disturbed by people's behavior.
Yes, same for me and shocked. I think I have almost gotten used to it, best I can do is love and if one can't take the negativity maybe it is better to surround oneself with positive people.

I'd say; They have been programmed to be evil, it is not their fault. Understanding this (to a degree) made me more compassionate.

And we can observe the same patterns in us to a degree.

Bubu
5th June 2013, 22:46
They say I should be able to love everyone You miss something first examine who said it and examine their cridibility


BrianEn friend.
From what I understand, both good and evil are extremes of the same energy.
If our (planet earth) existed only one polarity of this energy, which makes both of them, would require more time for our evolution, because the chances of experiencing would be reduced to 50%.
I imagine it should not be easy for a spirit that decided to try the evolution through the downside as the upside.
But these guys are important components of the game, it would not be possible for the spirits who have chosen to evolve the positive side, playing without opposites.
Now, at this point we find evil so unfair, cruel, unnecessary, but it is a fundamental part of our evolution, at least here in 3D.
So, the question is not like or dislike of evil, but understand why it is present and it is important part of the evolution of all.
Understand the evil and love the love.
My small contribution.

Agree naste you said it all:cool:

BrianEn
6th June 2013, 00:54
Well the best I can do is turn this over to my HP. I can't let myself get too drawn into the drama. I will have to decide again because it keeps happening hence the turning it over.

eva08
6th June 2013, 06:52
I have been listening to this clip a couple times and still love it, so true and uplifting: qYr31BLAzFc

Anchor
6th June 2013, 07:14
Well the best I can do is turn this over to my HP. I can't let myself get too drawn into the drama. I will have to decide again because it keeps happening hence the turning it over.

That is one way of doing it.

The evidence certainly shows that it is a hard thing for someone who thinks in terms of good and evil to contemplate the love for evildoers without getting tied up in a paradox (which is born of duality).

It is however possible to go past that. You don't have to agree with the evildoer or psychopath but you do need still need to love them as they are part of everything. So love them, love all of it, including and very important love yourself.

If you start to attempt to do that consistently you may find it possible to shift to a more compassionate consciousness that is capable of love for all (even the disagreeable things).

I think we are saying similar things, but you don't have to abdicate this to your "HP", you should be able to get your regular body/mind/spirit components around it as well :)

greybeard
6th June 2013, 08:05
But for the grace of God go i

My feeling is that if I was born into the same environment, had the same conditioning, genes,DNA--the works, then in the same situation there would be every possibility I would do the same thing.
Nothing is right nor wrong till thinking makes it so that's a quote.

Without the duality of this world there would be no choices or free will.
Pain etc gives the opportunity for compassion.
All of these seeming negative events give the opportunity to forgive --rise above--- show love and understanding without condoning harmful/violent acts.

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Rich
6th June 2013, 08:57
You don't have to agree with the evildoer or psychopath but you do need still need to love them


This is a important point, loving someone does not mean agreeing with their actions...that is what Lester said. It's helpful to examine this. When you love someone who is evil you support them not in their actions, but in their being, allowing them more the opportunity to be themselves, and it makes you feel good/at peace.

Rosieposie
7th June 2013, 14:26
I think what people have said here is awesome :) It's about loving the person under the evil, understanding what they are going through and thus releasing your own attachment to that thing. People are capable of a lot of pain and there is a plethora of difficult paths to walk, even those big bad wolves we all know and love (tptb) have an extremely hard path in front of them. A lot of people who are acting out of synch with their humanity don't realize what they are doing (they may in their head but there is more to knowing than a thought), they don't have that comprehension because that space they are in is so broken they are not connected to their selves properly. This doesn't mean their selves stop existing though just that they are in the illusion of separateness and that is not eternal. It is hard when they realize what they have done, you may never see it happen but that soul then carries that with them until they find a way to balance it, or on the odd occasion they can turn away from the pain entirely and hide out in those lower frequencies and become stuck and frankly unpleasant lol yet perhaps needing forgiveness the most.

Sometimes it helps to think of where they came from and what they may have been exposed to as a child and baby, you do not blame a young child when they are molested etc you blame the adult which is ironic because that child may very well internalize what is done to it and become the adult if that molestation was ontop of extreme emotional trauma that causes disconnection to the emotional body. If you cannot find it in yourself to love the adult version of the pain then love the child in that person who never really had a chance.

jiminii
7th June 2013, 14:49
You don't have to agree with the evildoer or psychopath but you do need still need to love them


This is a important point, loving someone does not mean agreeing with their actions...that is what Lester said. It's helpful to examine this. When you love someone who is evil you support them not in their actions, but in their being, allowing them more the opportunity to be themselves, and it makes you feel good/at peace.

you can love the being because you know the rest of him is not him ... just the garbage they loaded him with along the way ... remove that and he can breath free again

jim