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Cidersomerset
31st May 2013, 14:20
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31 May 2013 Last updated at 10:04

Black hole bonanza possible as immense gas cloud passes
By Jason Palmer

Science and technology reporter, BBC News

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Simulation of G2 cloud passing galactic centre The cloud will approach Sagittarius A* on
an elliptical orbit, passing close but not getting entirely sucked in A vast and hidden
field of small black holes predicted to be near the centre of our galaxy could be revealed
as a giant gas cloud passes by.The G2 cloud is as large as our Solar System, and bound
for a "supermassive" black hole at the Milky Way's core.On the way, it should encounter
many black holes just tens of km across.A report in Physical Review Letters suggests
they will spin and heat the gas, which will emit a spray of X-ray light that telescopes
could see.The cloud of gas - three times larger than Pluto's orbit but with a total mass
just three times that of the Earth - was first spotted on its course toward the galaxy's
centre in 2011. Researchers have been gearing up for the cloud's approach to the
galaxy's enormous central black hole, with its closest approach in September.

'Special opportunity'

But Imre Bartos of Columbia University in New York, US, and colleagues hit on the idea
of using the cloud's passage for another purpose.

"We know that there is a very massive black hole in the centre of the galaxy, many
millions of times heavier than our Sun, and we also suspect that there are thousands
and thousands much smaller - a few times the mass of the Sun," explained Dr Bartos.

Black Holes..

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Could you survive falling into one?

"When I first saw this G2 cloud going toward the centre, we thought that this may be
the first opportunity to hopefully say something directly, to see these black holes near
the centre," he told BBC News.The idea is that as the cloud speeds past these small
black holes - some slightly more massive than our Sun but just a few tens of km across -
gas will spiral around them faster and faster, heating up to millions of degrees and
emitting X-ray light.It is a bit like allowing a giant sink to empty through thousands of
tiny drains and looking for any evidence of swirling water.The team estimates - based
on guesses about just how much gas is in the cloud - that as G2 makes its pass around
the central black hole, X-ray space telescopes such as Chandra or NuStar should be able
to glimpse about 16 interactions with its smaller cousins.

Keeping an eye out for these X-rays may also confirm the existence of what are
called "intermediate mass" black holes - a few thousand times the mass of our Sun.
Here again, theory predicts their existence - particularly near the centres of galaxies -
but none has ever been definitively confirmed.

"I think it's a good idea," said Stefan Gillessen of the Max Planck Institute for
Extraterrestrial Physics, co-author of the 2012 paper in Nature on the G2 cloud's
discovery.

"We didn't think of that when we did the original paper - I think it's something worth
following up," he told BBC News.

"But the big uncertainty, as always in this game, is what is the density of the gas which
comes in."

The less dense the gas is, the less likely that enough light will be produced that our
telescopes can see it. But as Dr Bartos points out, it is the first real chance to get a look
at what may be thousands of smaller black holes hidden between us and the galactic
core.

"It's a very special opportunity, and it's also lucky that we've now got the capacity to
observe these things with X-ray telescopes on satellites," he said.

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Observations showing G2 cloud movement The cloud was spotted in 2011, moving at
speeds of millions of m/s

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sirdipswitch
31st May 2013, 15:38
Ain't no black hole at the center of our Gallaxy. Sometimes I wonder what these people are smokin. Stop and think for just a second. By the very method, that they say these black holes work, one as massive as they say is there, would suck the entire Gallaxy, into it. And then to go on and say there are thousands more, around the big one, makes it all, so very much more "Absurd".

Cidersomerset
31st May 2013, 15:53
Black holes are still mysterious, and scientist do not understand them.
This is good and amusing documentary in the sense that no one has seen
a black hole, but according to theoretic science and some planetary
observations a 'singularity' of some description should be there.

A 'Singularity' is a scientific word for a unknown object or phenomenon
that should exist in theory...LOL...



Horizon: Black Holes (BBC)

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Published on 1 Mar 2012


Black holes are one of the most destructive forces in the universe, capable of
tearing a planet apart and swallowing an entire star. Yet scientists now believe they
could hold the key to answering the ultimate question - what was there before the
Big Bang?

The trouble is that researching them is next to impossible. Black holes are by
definition invisible and there's no scientific theory able to explain them. Despite
these obvious obstacles, Horizon meets the astronomers attempting to image a
black hole for the very first time and the theoretical physicists getting ever closer to
unlocking their mysteries. It's a story that takes us into the heart of a black hole
and to the very edge of what we think we know about the universe.

jiminii
31st May 2013, 16:03
Ain't no black hole at the center of our Gallaxy. Sometimes I wonder what these people are smokin. Stop and think for just a second. By the very method, that they say these black holes work, one as massive as they say is there, would suck the entire Gallaxy, into it. And then to go on and say there are thousands more, around the big one, makes it all, so very much more "Absurd".

oh god you made me laugh ...hahahahahah


thanks

jim

Vitalux
31st May 2013, 16:09
Ain't no black hole at the center of our Gallaxy. Sometimes I wonder what these people are smokin.

Some say the same thing about gravity :playball:

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Cidersomerset
31st May 2013, 16:55
The non-existence of black holes and the failure of general relativity


STEPHEN CROTHERS: Black Holes & Relativity, EU 2013

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Published on 15 Apr 2013


Yes, it's an exotic subject, but Stephen Crothers has delivered a
resounding critique of the most popular dogma in the theoretical
sciences, all given at a level of common sense, free from
mathematical elaborations.

ghostrider
1st June 2013, 04:27
according to the plejarens black holes do exsist, and they have looked into the future of earth, in 1995 they departed earth , removed their stations and everything turned back to it's natural state, 380,000,000 the atmosphere of eath will sink , life will start to die on earth all co2 will sink, 470,000,000 CE no floral, faunal, or human life exist on earth, 4,000,000,000 the sun will shrink a be a darked dead star, and float through space for 6 billion years, then at 10,000,000,000 the entire sol system will be swallowed UP BY A BLACK HOLE, and compressed into it's heavy mass ...

Hervé
1st June 2013, 05:47
[...]

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Observations showing G2 cloud movement The cloud was spotted in 2011, moving at speeds of millions of m/s

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22694229

The above didn't seem to have made anyone blink, flinch, stop cold in their track or whatever... :wacko:

...

What happened to that speed of light, so-called barrier, for particles? :pound:


The speed of light in vacuum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum), commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_constant) important in many areas of physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics). Its value is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre_per_second),

Although if the cloud moves at a speed of a few millions m/s they could still be correct...