Limor Wolf
3rd June 2013, 17:11
From James Bartley's Website - For the rest of the interview please visit this link
http://theuniversalseduction.com/bartley/22/an-interview-with-angelia-cardwell-a-milab
posted: 03.06. 2013, 08:37
By James Bartley - Copyright with all rights reserved
This is an interview with a female Milab from England. “Angelia Cardwell” (pseudonym) is one of the most important milabs to ever surface. In this exclusive interview, Angelia provides information about a variety of subjects. Angelia has endured horrendous abuse including frequent gangstalking, electromagnetic harassment, psychic attacks from satanic covens, abductions from Dracos and vitriolic abuse from shills and gatekeepers within the Mind Control Survivor community. Despite it all, Angelia has emerged as a leader in the Milab community. Angelia has provided encouragement and validation for many other milabs. It is an honour and a privilege to have been taken into the confidence of such a unique, brave and intelligent woman as Angelia Cardwell. In this interview the initials “JB” will refer to me and “AC” will refer to Angelia. “MC” stands for Mind Control.
JB - Can you describe your background, genetic heritage and your upbringing?
AC - My background in terms of my family upbringing would seem fairly normal to any outsider but is far from it. As with most families used by the Illuminati, there are hidden depths that even some of my family members may not have been aware of, especially in terms of having been deliberately brought together to produce offspring with potential capabilities through certain genetic bloodlines. My family background in terms of genetics is a little varied: I am German, Latvian, English and Irish blood lines, making me Norse/Latvian, Germanic and Celtic in terms of bloodline, although I was made aware that there is a Babylonian bloodline in my family also through my mother’s side. There are Nazi connections on my father’s side, but Germanic blood lines on both sides (mother and father). My upbringing was in a fairly normal suburb, and most family members have run their own businesses or been quite academic, some work as part of the Christian Church, which was fundamental to my upbringing, God and the church were a huge part of my childhood and programming. I was always recognized as being very good academically from a young age, which is one of the things they look out for, especially if you seem good at visual learning and art but also good at problem solving, math etc. I was always taught that the occult was wrong, although there are hints that this was not totally rebuked by all family members. I believe that this was to give a “normal” front for our family life. I do know that I am the third generation I know of from my mother’s side to have experienced some things such as UFO abduction, out of four I have become aware of.
My mother and father were both deeply religious, and both had some troubled family backgrounds. They are both highly intelligent and also in my opinion both naturally psychic, although neither of them really explored that to any deep level on the surface. I do believe that they were both used in terms of a genetic pairing, and also both suffered from emotional traumas, and this is something else they look out for, as it makes offspring from such a couple potentially easier for programing through dissociation, especially with a magical genetic heritage. They were also both drawn to mystical aspects of spirituality even within the church. I had a weird childhood, whilst gifted at school, I found it hard to relate to some of the other children, things they felt and acted upon just did not make sense to me, including bullying, I just saw no point, which sometimes made me a target.
At home, I was expected to behave in a very strict environment, fraught with tensions, and also expected to behave in ways that were too adult for a child, with some of the sexual abuse I encountered from my step-father. From this I would often fold up into a world of my own, always reading books and imagining myself as certain heroes, which was great for dissociation. There are many large gaps in my memory from my childhood, which relate to places I have been taken to for programming and training which were memories hidden in alters. I have alters that are based on some childhood heroes from books and TV programs I watched.
There is nothing in surface memories to indicate at first glimpse any occult goings on, but on further inspection there are things that occurred that are not normal, and I believe my mother has also had some programming in that regard, and also was meant to pass on certain forms of visualizations and even local occult lore from the area I grew up in relating to local deities including Black Annis used by the cult. My family is multigenerational psychics, there are histories of healers and mediums and some Secret Society members. I believe some family members knew more than others what was going on. Some became willing participants and others were more reluctant but being born into that sort of lineage does not make it easy to say no. I have suffered greatly from my family alone, since speaking out and making it plain I will not return, let alone other members of this group and others. I would often find myself brutally punished for the slightest offence as a child, and locked in cupboards and held down, fingers bent backwards, arms locked and beaten. The sexual abuse was the worst, and the pedophilia group who used me, who also would take photos of their work and also videos which I am sure were passed around and sold on the black market. I was groomed for my step-father sexually and this was often overlooked or ignored, until I spoke out to a member of the church who took it seriously and friends at school. I suffered greatly for that also and was punished for it and have been for years by my family. The sexual abuse is just more of the programming though, and it leaves a person vulnerable to further abuse from future partners in life, which is what happened to me, constantly craving love you never really got at home, and then finding yourself trapped by it in a current relationship. Punishment and reward systems are used greatly by these cults as a form of control, including love and careers and friendships.
JB - When did you first start having paranormal experiences, including UFO sightings, alien abductions, encounters with demonic and/or angelic beings and psychic phenomena? Can you describe some of the entities you encountered?
AC - I first started having paranormal experiences as a very young child, about three years old, although from recovered memories, I was already having experiences such as astral projection whilst in the womb. My first UFO abduction recovered was at three and a half years old, and was linked to sightings and experiences my mother was having at that time also. This was a typical Grey or Zeta Reticuli encounter, which originally manifested as an Owl appearing at both my own and my mother’s bedroom windows, but was in fact no Owl at all. There were also sightings of shadow beings at this time also, my mother and her friends would notice shadows flickering out of the corner of their eyes and moving around the house, as would I, although I was also strangely enough being told that there was nothing but my imagination in this. I would often notice strange energy spots, hot and cold in the home, and had many astral visits from beings and from agents I now know or at least feel were NSA. I remember having “relatives” from the afterlife, telling me bedtime stories as a child, and explaining what I had come here for in this life, like a dead great aunt or great grandfather, and also visits from mantids and greys. I would also do a lot of day dreaming which I now know to be astral travelling with some beings. I had a vortex or portal open in my bedroom wall in one encounter, after an entity telling me about the hardships I would endure in this life, and becoming quite distressed, I tried to do what I could to “shut down” or try to leave my body and go to God, go home, and as I tried, the portal opened and I was taken to a cave deep within the earth and told in no uncertain terms by a reptilian that “YOU HAVE TO LIVE THIS LIFE”. It was very threatening and demanding and after scaring the bejeezus out of me brought me back to my bedroom, where my mother found me screaming in terror and fear, although, I also see this incident as another form of programming that was taking place by these entities. I had many encounters with fae or fairies as a child also, and saw dead people a lot.
JB - Did you always have recollections of the Mind Control and SRA which you endured from childhood or were the memories of the abuse part of a gradual process that began at a certain point in time?
AC - I had always thought that some of the abuse I suffered as a child was normal, that everyone went through this, so it took me many years to discover that it was not and that I was and had in fact been abused. I did not recover anything other than abuse in the home, until nineteen years old, when I had a first bleed through of a memory to do with a temple group who met in a certain location, but passed it off as a dream or fanciful thinking, as it just did not equate to what I thought was my life at that time, but now know it to have been a very important memory bleed through, which of course, they were keen to keep me from realizing what it really stood for. After that, my life became slowly more and more paranormal, as it always had been really, but I slowly came to realize that what I had been told was my childhood imagination was far from it, and that I was psychic. Many strange coincidences occurred after that, and my life was definitely being observed and pre-arranged for me, even in terms of education and career and love and social life, none of it was anything but pre planned and orchestrated really, which I find frustrating. My life feels very contrived in that regard. It has taken me many years to acknowledge that things I thought were normal were a part of the abuse, and things I had been told did not happen actually did, such as being whipped, which I was originally told was my imagination. It has been a slow process since the age of twenty three that I have recovered many memories and the others have come into proper perspective.
JB - During this process of Self Discovery, were you aware of increased surveillance and efforts designed to keep you from learning more about your past?
AC - There were indeed many efforts to keep me from understanding what was really going on in my life, and who I was. The surveillance was actually carried out by friends linked to the local cult in the area I grew up in, and also family members, but there are people who were also in my workplace that were a part of this. I was constantly advised to keep away from the occult after I met my ex-partner, although he seemed to be having quite a few paranormal experiences of his own, including a meeting with a demon who wanted to befriend him that he told me of. His family was completely against any talk of the occult though, and I was encouraged mainly in academic and career terms and the occult was only encouraged as a philosophical viewpoint, not as an actual practice, which, again I feel was a part of the training and programming to a greater or lesser degree. I was advised that I had never really been abused as a child by his and my own family, which was quite hurtful and painful, and another form of abuse in and of itself, and also that I had a fanciful memory, and should use this maybe to pursue some form of art career instead of looking at past family hurts. There was a great deal of hush hush work in that regard, and also when the gang stalking started at twenty three years old, a lot of gas lighting by friends and family members and my partner, who were all keen to tell me that I was potentially mentally ill. My partner was greatly abusive most of the time, mainly emotionally more than anything, but this graduated to social situations where he would put me down in front of our friends and when they did finally get me to agree to taking pharmaceutical drugs to help with my mental problems, they chose one that brought about a form of catatonia, and I could not move or speak, I know I was raped by my partner during this, and his reply was that “I just don’t know what has gotten into you, I still love you but this has to stop”, and he would growl and walk away, whilst I was hungry and in pain and unable to barely move or speak.
When I started to recover (I came off the drugs without telling anyone), I found that I was being attacked by astral adepts from my local area, and also demonic entities. I ran for my life from my partner and went to stay with friends, who also encouraged that I was just mentally ill and was having a nervous breakdown. I stayed after a few weeks there, with an Aunt in another country, and she also encouraged the mentally ill aspects, whilst there were many strange incidents that occurred there also. This Aunt is known for her connections to the occult, but strangely enough, did take me to a reiki healer, who said I was myself a potentially very gifted healer, I think that this was my family’s mistake on their behalf, that reiki did more for me than anyone could imagine, as soon as I had someone say “Your psychic, you’re a healer” my internal world changed and I got strength again, and saw through a lot of lies meant to keep me disabled and compliant. That was their biggest mistake, she gave me my power back in that way, and I soon left my aunt and went to pursue my life again. I still had them trying to control my career and social life, but it was getting harder for them to keep out the fact I was slowly deprogramming and becoming aware, which true spirituality does to you anyhow. They have fought it tooth and nail but have ultimately failed. My ultimate handlers have always been friends and family carefully placed around me, and any signs of me showing deprogramming or knowing the truth brought about more gang stalking.
JB - Can you describe some of the methods utilized to keep you from breaking out of programming and to prevent you from networking with other survivors of MC?
AC - The main tool was my ex-partner. Soon after living with my Aunt mentioned above, he persuaded me to take him back into my life, which was a huge mistake, but at that time, after the whole emotional roller coaster I had been on, love was a much needed thing and they used that. He was in all essence my handler, and was also receiving training in programming, using me as a guinea pig, especially for hypnotic commands. Even after I left him, I was made to feel that mental health was the only way forward and when I persisted with my psychic and spiritual abilities, they soon found ways to use that also, ensuring that my spiritual contacts were in touch with the cult and also that I could then hopefully be persuaded into darker forms of the occult, instead of reiki, which I started to see for what it was and quickly left. I received huge amounts of astral attacks during this time, and astral break-ins, meant to destabilize my reiki and spiritual training, and I was gas lighted in this regard also by pre-eminent psychics in the area. Only one psychic took me seriously: A Cherokee medicine woman who was living in and touring England at that time. She knew who I was and what was really happening although I did not, and she encouraged me to look at ET’s and the alien agenda and mind control. By others, I was encouraged to stay away from the conspiracy theory arena what is now known as the Truth Movement, and also to see it as too fearful and also full of lies. They also fell foul on this, when one warlock advised me to read up on Jordan Maxwell, and after that, some things started to fall into place. Most astral attacks then, and even now, have been sexual in nature, or have been demonic. I did get covens trying to break in and also adepts from temple groups. I was with new handlers by this point, I had left my partner for good and they knew I would not return to him, so it was down to a few select psychics to gas light me and keep me in line, who also did energy work they said to heal me, but which in reality was meant to cause me further distress and even destabilize my grounding abilities. I have had some similar experiences within the truth movement also, with people who claimed to be deprogrammers and healers, who are anything but in reality, and then claimed I was not taking enough personal responsibility for myself or ungrateful and have tried gas lighting me on some of my experiences. The worst attacks were by far from Freemasons, their magic is exceptionally powerful, and caused me many problems, they have abilities you will not find taught in any books or general pagan or spiritual groups, and have caused me some problems in the past which I had to fight to correct and get out of.
http://theuniversalseduction.com/bartley/22/an-interview-with-angelia-cardwell-a-milab
posted: 03.06. 2013, 08:37
By James Bartley - Copyright with all rights reserved
This is an interview with a female Milab from England. “Angelia Cardwell” (pseudonym) is one of the most important milabs to ever surface. In this exclusive interview, Angelia provides information about a variety of subjects. Angelia has endured horrendous abuse including frequent gangstalking, electromagnetic harassment, psychic attacks from satanic covens, abductions from Dracos and vitriolic abuse from shills and gatekeepers within the Mind Control Survivor community. Despite it all, Angelia has emerged as a leader in the Milab community. Angelia has provided encouragement and validation for many other milabs. It is an honour and a privilege to have been taken into the confidence of such a unique, brave and intelligent woman as Angelia Cardwell. In this interview the initials “JB” will refer to me and “AC” will refer to Angelia. “MC” stands for Mind Control.
JB - Can you describe your background, genetic heritage and your upbringing?
AC - My background in terms of my family upbringing would seem fairly normal to any outsider but is far from it. As with most families used by the Illuminati, there are hidden depths that even some of my family members may not have been aware of, especially in terms of having been deliberately brought together to produce offspring with potential capabilities through certain genetic bloodlines. My family background in terms of genetics is a little varied: I am German, Latvian, English and Irish blood lines, making me Norse/Latvian, Germanic and Celtic in terms of bloodline, although I was made aware that there is a Babylonian bloodline in my family also through my mother’s side. There are Nazi connections on my father’s side, but Germanic blood lines on both sides (mother and father). My upbringing was in a fairly normal suburb, and most family members have run their own businesses or been quite academic, some work as part of the Christian Church, which was fundamental to my upbringing, God and the church were a huge part of my childhood and programming. I was always recognized as being very good academically from a young age, which is one of the things they look out for, especially if you seem good at visual learning and art but also good at problem solving, math etc. I was always taught that the occult was wrong, although there are hints that this was not totally rebuked by all family members. I believe that this was to give a “normal” front for our family life. I do know that I am the third generation I know of from my mother’s side to have experienced some things such as UFO abduction, out of four I have become aware of.
My mother and father were both deeply religious, and both had some troubled family backgrounds. They are both highly intelligent and also in my opinion both naturally psychic, although neither of them really explored that to any deep level on the surface. I do believe that they were both used in terms of a genetic pairing, and also both suffered from emotional traumas, and this is something else they look out for, as it makes offspring from such a couple potentially easier for programing through dissociation, especially with a magical genetic heritage. They were also both drawn to mystical aspects of spirituality even within the church. I had a weird childhood, whilst gifted at school, I found it hard to relate to some of the other children, things they felt and acted upon just did not make sense to me, including bullying, I just saw no point, which sometimes made me a target.
At home, I was expected to behave in a very strict environment, fraught with tensions, and also expected to behave in ways that were too adult for a child, with some of the sexual abuse I encountered from my step-father. From this I would often fold up into a world of my own, always reading books and imagining myself as certain heroes, which was great for dissociation. There are many large gaps in my memory from my childhood, which relate to places I have been taken to for programming and training which were memories hidden in alters. I have alters that are based on some childhood heroes from books and TV programs I watched.
There is nothing in surface memories to indicate at first glimpse any occult goings on, but on further inspection there are things that occurred that are not normal, and I believe my mother has also had some programming in that regard, and also was meant to pass on certain forms of visualizations and even local occult lore from the area I grew up in relating to local deities including Black Annis used by the cult. My family is multigenerational psychics, there are histories of healers and mediums and some Secret Society members. I believe some family members knew more than others what was going on. Some became willing participants and others were more reluctant but being born into that sort of lineage does not make it easy to say no. I have suffered greatly from my family alone, since speaking out and making it plain I will not return, let alone other members of this group and others. I would often find myself brutally punished for the slightest offence as a child, and locked in cupboards and held down, fingers bent backwards, arms locked and beaten. The sexual abuse was the worst, and the pedophilia group who used me, who also would take photos of their work and also videos which I am sure were passed around and sold on the black market. I was groomed for my step-father sexually and this was often overlooked or ignored, until I spoke out to a member of the church who took it seriously and friends at school. I suffered greatly for that also and was punished for it and have been for years by my family. The sexual abuse is just more of the programming though, and it leaves a person vulnerable to further abuse from future partners in life, which is what happened to me, constantly craving love you never really got at home, and then finding yourself trapped by it in a current relationship. Punishment and reward systems are used greatly by these cults as a form of control, including love and careers and friendships.
JB - When did you first start having paranormal experiences, including UFO sightings, alien abductions, encounters with demonic and/or angelic beings and psychic phenomena? Can you describe some of the entities you encountered?
AC - I first started having paranormal experiences as a very young child, about three years old, although from recovered memories, I was already having experiences such as astral projection whilst in the womb. My first UFO abduction recovered was at three and a half years old, and was linked to sightings and experiences my mother was having at that time also. This was a typical Grey or Zeta Reticuli encounter, which originally manifested as an Owl appearing at both my own and my mother’s bedroom windows, but was in fact no Owl at all. There were also sightings of shadow beings at this time also, my mother and her friends would notice shadows flickering out of the corner of their eyes and moving around the house, as would I, although I was also strangely enough being told that there was nothing but my imagination in this. I would often notice strange energy spots, hot and cold in the home, and had many astral visits from beings and from agents I now know or at least feel were NSA. I remember having “relatives” from the afterlife, telling me bedtime stories as a child, and explaining what I had come here for in this life, like a dead great aunt or great grandfather, and also visits from mantids and greys. I would also do a lot of day dreaming which I now know to be astral travelling with some beings. I had a vortex or portal open in my bedroom wall in one encounter, after an entity telling me about the hardships I would endure in this life, and becoming quite distressed, I tried to do what I could to “shut down” or try to leave my body and go to God, go home, and as I tried, the portal opened and I was taken to a cave deep within the earth and told in no uncertain terms by a reptilian that “YOU HAVE TO LIVE THIS LIFE”. It was very threatening and demanding and after scaring the bejeezus out of me brought me back to my bedroom, where my mother found me screaming in terror and fear, although, I also see this incident as another form of programming that was taking place by these entities. I had many encounters with fae or fairies as a child also, and saw dead people a lot.
JB - Did you always have recollections of the Mind Control and SRA which you endured from childhood or were the memories of the abuse part of a gradual process that began at a certain point in time?
AC - I had always thought that some of the abuse I suffered as a child was normal, that everyone went through this, so it took me many years to discover that it was not and that I was and had in fact been abused. I did not recover anything other than abuse in the home, until nineteen years old, when I had a first bleed through of a memory to do with a temple group who met in a certain location, but passed it off as a dream or fanciful thinking, as it just did not equate to what I thought was my life at that time, but now know it to have been a very important memory bleed through, which of course, they were keen to keep me from realizing what it really stood for. After that, my life became slowly more and more paranormal, as it always had been really, but I slowly came to realize that what I had been told was my childhood imagination was far from it, and that I was psychic. Many strange coincidences occurred after that, and my life was definitely being observed and pre-arranged for me, even in terms of education and career and love and social life, none of it was anything but pre planned and orchestrated really, which I find frustrating. My life feels very contrived in that regard. It has taken me many years to acknowledge that things I thought were normal were a part of the abuse, and things I had been told did not happen actually did, such as being whipped, which I was originally told was my imagination. It has been a slow process since the age of twenty three that I have recovered many memories and the others have come into proper perspective.
JB - During this process of Self Discovery, were you aware of increased surveillance and efforts designed to keep you from learning more about your past?
AC - There were indeed many efforts to keep me from understanding what was really going on in my life, and who I was. The surveillance was actually carried out by friends linked to the local cult in the area I grew up in, and also family members, but there are people who were also in my workplace that were a part of this. I was constantly advised to keep away from the occult after I met my ex-partner, although he seemed to be having quite a few paranormal experiences of his own, including a meeting with a demon who wanted to befriend him that he told me of. His family was completely against any talk of the occult though, and I was encouraged mainly in academic and career terms and the occult was only encouraged as a philosophical viewpoint, not as an actual practice, which, again I feel was a part of the training and programming to a greater or lesser degree. I was advised that I had never really been abused as a child by his and my own family, which was quite hurtful and painful, and another form of abuse in and of itself, and also that I had a fanciful memory, and should use this maybe to pursue some form of art career instead of looking at past family hurts. There was a great deal of hush hush work in that regard, and also when the gang stalking started at twenty three years old, a lot of gas lighting by friends and family members and my partner, who were all keen to tell me that I was potentially mentally ill. My partner was greatly abusive most of the time, mainly emotionally more than anything, but this graduated to social situations where he would put me down in front of our friends and when they did finally get me to agree to taking pharmaceutical drugs to help with my mental problems, they chose one that brought about a form of catatonia, and I could not move or speak, I know I was raped by my partner during this, and his reply was that “I just don’t know what has gotten into you, I still love you but this has to stop”, and he would growl and walk away, whilst I was hungry and in pain and unable to barely move or speak.
When I started to recover (I came off the drugs without telling anyone), I found that I was being attacked by astral adepts from my local area, and also demonic entities. I ran for my life from my partner and went to stay with friends, who also encouraged that I was just mentally ill and was having a nervous breakdown. I stayed after a few weeks there, with an Aunt in another country, and she also encouraged the mentally ill aspects, whilst there were many strange incidents that occurred there also. This Aunt is known for her connections to the occult, but strangely enough, did take me to a reiki healer, who said I was myself a potentially very gifted healer, I think that this was my family’s mistake on their behalf, that reiki did more for me than anyone could imagine, as soon as I had someone say “Your psychic, you’re a healer” my internal world changed and I got strength again, and saw through a lot of lies meant to keep me disabled and compliant. That was their biggest mistake, she gave me my power back in that way, and I soon left my aunt and went to pursue my life again. I still had them trying to control my career and social life, but it was getting harder for them to keep out the fact I was slowly deprogramming and becoming aware, which true spirituality does to you anyhow. They have fought it tooth and nail but have ultimately failed. My ultimate handlers have always been friends and family carefully placed around me, and any signs of me showing deprogramming or knowing the truth brought about more gang stalking.
JB - Can you describe some of the methods utilized to keep you from breaking out of programming and to prevent you from networking with other survivors of MC?
AC - The main tool was my ex-partner. Soon after living with my Aunt mentioned above, he persuaded me to take him back into my life, which was a huge mistake, but at that time, after the whole emotional roller coaster I had been on, love was a much needed thing and they used that. He was in all essence my handler, and was also receiving training in programming, using me as a guinea pig, especially for hypnotic commands. Even after I left him, I was made to feel that mental health was the only way forward and when I persisted with my psychic and spiritual abilities, they soon found ways to use that also, ensuring that my spiritual contacts were in touch with the cult and also that I could then hopefully be persuaded into darker forms of the occult, instead of reiki, which I started to see for what it was and quickly left. I received huge amounts of astral attacks during this time, and astral break-ins, meant to destabilize my reiki and spiritual training, and I was gas lighted in this regard also by pre-eminent psychics in the area. Only one psychic took me seriously: A Cherokee medicine woman who was living in and touring England at that time. She knew who I was and what was really happening although I did not, and she encouraged me to look at ET’s and the alien agenda and mind control. By others, I was encouraged to stay away from the conspiracy theory arena what is now known as the Truth Movement, and also to see it as too fearful and also full of lies. They also fell foul on this, when one warlock advised me to read up on Jordan Maxwell, and after that, some things started to fall into place. Most astral attacks then, and even now, have been sexual in nature, or have been demonic. I did get covens trying to break in and also adepts from temple groups. I was with new handlers by this point, I had left my partner for good and they knew I would not return to him, so it was down to a few select psychics to gas light me and keep me in line, who also did energy work they said to heal me, but which in reality was meant to cause me further distress and even destabilize my grounding abilities. I have had some similar experiences within the truth movement also, with people who claimed to be deprogrammers and healers, who are anything but in reality, and then claimed I was not taking enough personal responsibility for myself or ungrateful and have tried gas lighting me on some of my experiences. The worst attacks were by far from Freemasons, their magic is exceptionally powerful, and caused me many problems, they have abilities you will not find taught in any books or general pagan or spiritual groups, and have caused me some problems in the past which I had to fight to correct and get out of.