An Illusion within the Holographic Universe :confused: Discussion

[Vitalux]

Some of you will be able to grasp this, most will not.



Our Planet is suppose to be round. Which is a curved surface.
Therefore, in general terms, whenever we are walking on the surface of the ball, most of the surface under our feet should appear curved downward.

Similar to an ant on a ball.

http://greed.un-identified.com/george/shot-8.jpg



Now take a look at this beach image and really think about it for a while and ask yourself, how can the water in the distance be always in the distance rising higher than where the viewer stands :confused:




http://trip4real.net/experiencesImages/7102/c5f5b19e22a19627a5379ef48e63e3f8.jpeg


Who can see it? Who can't
Who wishes to explain it? :o

[ThePythonicCow]

Now take a look at this beach image and really think about it for a while and ask yourself, how can the water in the distance be always in the distance rising higher than where the viewer stands :confused:

The camera taking that beach scene was a bit higher altitude than the three women. Lower the camera below the level of the people, and they will seem to rise above a level background.
http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4415955/family_standing_on_path_in_the_countryside_looking_at_the_horizon_019341BL.jpg

[Sunny-side-up]

Now take a look at this beach image and really think about it for a while and ask yourself, how can the water in the distance be always in the distance rising higher than where the viewer stands :confused:

The camera taking that beach scene was a bit higher altitude than the three women. Lower the camera below the level of the people, and they will seem to rise above a level background.
http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4415955/family_standing_on_path_in_the_countryside_looking_at_the_horizon_019341BL.jpg
.:Sorted:. :)

[Vitalux]

The camera taking that beach scene was a bit higher altitude than the three women. Lower the camera below the level of the people, and they will seem to rise above a level background.


What are your thoughts on why in the original image I posted why the background appears to curve up, rather than be similar to your image?

Just kicking around ideas about an observation I see and wondering why I see it that way.
Even thought I have looked at the horizon all my life from beaches I have never before ever thought about it before.

:fish2:

[Sunny-side-up]

They say the camera never lies but, they do, they distort shrink and or stretch. and depending on the lens also. cameras now have w i d e angle lens's that in my eye distort! Maybe it's down to that? and the subjects arms angles might influence your perception ?

[Vitalux]

They say the camera never lies but, they do, they distort shrink and or stretch. and depending on the lens also. cameras now have w i d e angle lens's that in my eye distort! Maybe it's down to that? and the subjects arms angles might influence your perception ?

I have pondered that too...

So I have sat at the beach .....( i live very close to Lake Ontario) and have pondered that question a great deal.

The image that you see is the same thing the naked eye appears to see while standing on the beach.....
I would have never even considered it ...until I recently started to question about how our minds actually see.

From what I can understand....in order for us to see a far away perspective, that far away distance must "" curl upward" rather than downward.
Otherwise, looking at any distance ....I would think....would appear like looking near the end of a water fall.

I know it sound wild....but the horizon appears to curve upward while looking a large bodies of water ......or even distant land masses.
One can always dismiss that far away land masses as viewing the land going up in elevation, but how does that explain large bodies of water.
They are not suppose to increase in height as we view distance.

Perhaps there is an easy answer for this.

Myself, I am thinking that perhaps, similar to the double slit experiment, I have found something in the holographic universe that is noteworthy of consideration.

[sirdipswitch]

Source... sure makes this illusion, seem real...

[Freed Fox]

You are wondering why we cannot perceive a 'downward curve' on the horizon, as the ant on the ball does. The answer is scale. The Earth is massive and we are, relative to it, very miniscule. If we were large enough, we would see the curve (but to be that big, our heads would probably be in the upper reaches of the Earths atmosphere). Also, on a related note, it is a common misconception that the Earth is spherical in shape, but actually it is elliptical.

[Kindred]

Put your camera at sea level (on a calm day) and see what kind of picture you get. Depending upon your altitude (normally around 10 to 50 ft above sea level) you can see to about a 20 mile radius... this is the approximate number for gauging distance while on a vessel at sea. When you stand above sea level, your view is subject to a perspective viewpoint... the sea seems to 'rise', but in reality the curvature of the earth (and sea) is truly 'down' from where you stand.

You See?

In Unity, Peace and Love

[nenosema]

Very good point Kindred, it is all the matter of your viewing perspective, not in relation the the actual curvature of distance over miles/area.
yes the earth is round, it is also ellipsoid and also geoid, so too it seems to be very flat.

One image that really opens to the awe of curviture in relation to cosmos

http://s13.postimg.org/4xd134x9z/897678.png (http://postimage.org/)

(http://postimage.org/app.php)

[Vitalux]

Ok lets try this again.

My point is I am sitting on the beach taking an image of the girl.


Notice the water as the distance increases from the shore appears to increase in elevation.

One theory that might explain this has to do with the holographic universe and that Source creates this perspective of distance otherwise, one would think we would have a problem seeing distance.


I think sirdipswitch understand it.

It took me a life time to see it, and it was only after I started to question what I was seeing.


http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/stuarburstphotography/DSC_8241_zps433ffc73.jpg (http://s1023.photobucket.com/user/stuarburstphotography/media/DSC_8241_zps433ffc73.jpg.html)

[Soulboy]

I'm with Kindred on this. If a camera is placed right on the surface of the water, the horizon no longer seems to go up. It's perspective. When you are at sea and a ship approaches in the distance, the first part of it you can see is the mast on the horizon. As it comes closer, you will be able to see more of the approaching ship

[greybeard]

In reality the mind is organising energy into time and space. (and much more besides)
For this to happen two eyes are needed-- its the same as triangulation in navigation.
Without the mind there would be no 3d-- no reference point.
I am here the sea is there--the horizon is out there.

Chris

[TargeT]

Ok lets try this again.

My point is I am sitting on the beach taking an image of the girl.


Notice the water as the distance increases from the shore appears to increase in elevation.

One theory that might explain this has to do with the holographic universe and that Source creates this perspective of distance otherwise, one would think we would have a problem seeing distance.


I think sirdipswitch understand it.

It took me a life time to see it, and it was only after I started to question what I was seeing.


http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/stuarburstphotography/DSC_8241_zps433ffc73.jpg (http://s1023.photobucket.com/user/stuarburstphotography/media/DSC_8241_zps433ffc73.jpg.html)



Lay down on the ground and see what you see, you are 5-6 feet off the ground, looking down at it, therefore it appears to be different than it is. lay down at water level and you will see a different thing.

Go swim in the ocean & it will not look like this (though even then your head is slightly elevated over a calm sea).


you can draw it out on paper if you want to see how the phenomenon works.

[Prodigal Son]

All beaches like the ones in your photos slope downward towards the water but aside from being sloped they are usually pretty flat. So it seems you are standing on a flat surface but it slopes downward creating the rising water illusion.

Ironically, the beach is the best place to look at where the water meets the sky from your far left to your far right to clearly see the curvature of the earth.