Black Triangles: the TR-3B

[Hiram]

Recently I have had the pleasure to be in contact with a fascinating man I shall call Ringo. Ringo had some insights into a photo I posted in my photo album here on PA entitled, “Things to Look At”. The photo was taken by a civilian in South Carolina in 2009, and clearly (perhaps more-so than any other photo you’ll find on the net) depicts what must be nothing less than an undisclosed military aircraft--AKA a "UFO".

This contact (Ringo) is not a stranger to me, and we had discussed many unrelated topics previously, so I was quite surprised and delighted that he chose to elaborate on this photo. I am leaving this up for your interpretation, redacted to obscure some basic identifying information.

Ringo has agreed to discuss more in a limited way, though we suspect that there may be some significant memory issues, possibly the result of periodic memory wipes due to the USAPs he was involved with. As many of you know, the memory issue is a complex one, and many are rightfully skeptical. What I can tell you is that we are exploring the issue and as far as I can discern this man is sincere in what he writes. If you have any questions or comments you would like elaborated on, please submit them here and I'll relate them to him, though I can’t guarantee an answer for any specific question. See letter below. Hopefully we will be posting more! He has much he would like to discuss.

………your photo of the "UFO"? If so, most people would call that a TR-3B. That's kinda correct. But what most people don't know is the 'TR-3x' designation is no longer in use, other than most likely one Test Bed somewhere which would be used for Test and Integration of new technology. The reason it wasn't designated an 'X' (as in X-1, X-15, etc) is because the 'X' is used on Experimental Man-Made Aerospace vehicles. The 'TR' designation stands for Technology Reversed and is also referred to as Test Reversed. If the picture you are showing is fairly recent (the last 10-20 years or so), and it looks like it is, it looks like the Operational version.
Notice it's solid black color (and there will be no identifying markings on it)? That's because it is operated by the undisclosed US Space Command. I say undisclosed because the USSC has been OFFICIALLY transferred to the new USSTRATCOM and no longer exists. In reality the USSC is still operational, but it is the US Contingent of a larger World (NATO-Like) Alliance, of which I do not know the name. They have different sizes of these vehicles but the physical configurations are all similar. SOME can operate on both conventional fuel AND anti-gravity field propulsion systems. Depending on the configuration they are used for transporting personnel, supplies, and equipment to the deep-space military-intelligence space station (Semi-routinely. That's why they're seldom spotted. And when they are they're just classified as UFO's), for deep space travel, and for superfast surveillance operations (Again, can be classified as UFO when spotted). I don't know (or remember?) the designation or…….
(SECTION REDACTED)…………….

Now is a picture starting to form here? Being qualified under the Nuclear Surety Program (Personnel Reliability Program - PRP) I was classified as a Combat Aircrew Member and I flew with the SAC WWABNCP and with Looking Glass. As such I had to undergo routine visits to the Flight Surgeon's Office, not only for Physical checkups but also for Psychological checkups. Is it possible that I was wiped? I mean think about it . . . I was a member of the USAF - Property of the US Gov. And maybe they wouldn't want someone with certain knowledge to simply leave and be roaming around the streets to discuss this?
(SECTION REDACTED)……….


Back to the TR-3B for a moment: I was going to say that I don't know or remember any technical details, but there is one thing. They still use IFF/SIF, and when they're within the atmosphere they can Squawk themselves as ordinary aircraft or helicopters, military or civilian, to Ground Controllers or ATC. There was at least one that I know of, a relatively small one, at (*******) (SD). It was kept in a small hangar off the very North end of the runway. I initially found out about it because they were having a Comm. problem, so because of our Security Classifications we carried, Job Control called our shop (on the Red Phone. Not usual!) to give us the Work Order (with instructions). Since I was the Senior Cleared Comm Tech there at the time, I and one other tech were assigned the job. I remember it was quite a 'rigamarole' to go through to get in there, but once I seen it I didn't feel particularly fascinated by it. This thing was just sitting there in the hangar, and although I knew it was a secret aircraft, I didn't feel that surprised by it. After all, at the time, (*********) was called "SAC's Show-Place" for a reason and I had seen a lot of stuff come through there. I remember thinking that it was just another Advanced Fighter or something. BUT, some while later when I was temporarily assigned as Squadron Swing-Shift Supervisor (all shops) I was called by J.C. (in the same manner, only more rushed) and told to report to North Runway with a Nav Specialist. That's when I realized it was no ordinary airplane. It was completely dark - no lights, no moon, and hard to see - and completely quiet out there. We could see that it was surrounded by people because they were carrying dimmed flashlights pointing at the ground. And then, at exactly the same time, we both said "IT'S HOVERING"! I kid you not Hiram. I remember that now almost like it happened last week. And it was no optical illusion, because we went under it and entered through a bottom hatch with a drop-down ladder. And I even remember thinking how much the same this was as entering one of our EC-135's! Now I have a gap, because I don't remember anything inside the craft at all. The final memory I have of this is the drive back to the shop and the NAV Tech telling me about the IFF (Editor’s Note: Identification Friend or Foe---a system that enables military, and national (civilian-located ATC) interrogation systems to distinguish friendly aircraft, vehicles, or forces, and to determine their bearing and range from the interrogator), which is what we were called out for. That's it. I MUST be going crazy! But somehow I really don't think so. (Section Redacted)

[Beth]

Hiram, is this the photo you are talking about?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=93&attachmentid=2316

[Hiram]

Yes. That is precisely the one. Thank you for linking to it!

This is a very interesting man.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

I have always felt uneasy with any mention of that designation, wherever the source might originate. TR-3, TR-3B, Black Manta. For some reason I was under the impression that the designation stood for Tactical Recon, and that there was a tactical version and a larger strategic version of that craft. These obviously are from the same family as the late 80's, yet never rolled out publicly Lockheed SWP-30 'Firefly', a large 180+ft triangle using advanced propulsion and fitted with psychotronic weapon systems

[Hiram]

Yes, to me this looks like a "sport-model" version. Although it is difficult to judge size with no scale here in the open sky, it doesn't appear massive does it? I have another image of this craft taken by the same photographer. I'll find and post it in the same album.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Sounds good, thanks

[Hiram]

I'm sorry the 2nd photo is corrupted...I posted it, but just the tiny version of it. A different angle.

I spoke with Ringo, and Bonfides will be forthcoming. I don't know this for sure but I think there is alot of scanning and obscuring ID's etc. to maintain his confidentiality. I'll also be posting a timeline for him once he completes that.

[Hiram]

More to Come soon.......!

[Beth]

More to Come soon.......!

Very much looking forward to it Hiram!

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi there, Hiram -

Many thanks, and I'm most interested in this. I understand from the mods that you e-mailed me: my apologies, because I missed it and just now absolutely cannot find your message. Can you kindly re-send to bill@projectavalon.net?

A few immediate questions, if I may - just for the moment.

1) I looked closely at the interesting photo you posted here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=93&attachmentid=2316

It's literally outline-razor-sharp. I'd have expected the edges to be at least a little blurred. (Try taking a photo of a distant solid object with a high-quality camera and see the pixellation of sharp edge outlines. I just showed it to a Photoshop expert, who immediately offered the opinion that it was fabricated.)

Did Ringo offer any doubt that the photo might be of an unenhanced real object?

2) The TR-3B is the LARGE triangle - isn't it? Like this one:

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a) Can you ask Ringo if this YouTube video is genuine? I have to say that it looks pretty convincing to me. If it was faked, it shows a very high level of expertise.

b) I thought that the TR-3A was the small "Pumpkinseed" craft - that the posted photo may depict. Can Ringo comment?

3) Ringo wrote


I flew with the SAC WWABNCP and with Looking Glass

By "Looking Glass", is he referring to the Boeing EC–135?

4) Can Ringo comment on the X-33 Venture Star? Kerry and I recently were told some interesting information about this craft (or its successor).

5) What does Ringo know about the Mars colony?

Please forward my best regards to him - I have a bunch more questions if he's willing to dialog.

With my very best wishes, Bill

[Hiram]

Thank you everyone for being kind enough to visit this thread,

Bill, I have now submitted each of your comments to Ringo and we'll await his responses. He has alot of tangential information, and isn't afraid to say "I don't know" when he doesn't.

He is in the process of assembling alot of his info, personal -timeline etc. We should hear back from him shortly.

You make good points about the photograph. Personally I can't vouch for its genuineness, but I had assumed that it was taken with a very high-resolution camera and that the object was traveling very slowly at less than 1 thousand feet. There are a series of photographs taken at that sighting and I believe they can be found on the net.

At best, its a photo that stimulated Ringo's memory, alot of which seems to be disjointed, though it coming together.

Bill, I am emailing you again as I post this.

For those who know my reputation on Avalon, I am very sincere about what write here. I would not knowingly present anything that was incorrect. I think this is a nice opportunity to question and learn from someone who was involved in some very interesting things.

Thanks for your patience!

Hiram

[Hiram]

Really briefly, some discussion Ringo and I had been having with regards to underground facilities, and a feeling of strangeness that sensitive people sometimes get when when above or around these facilities (I had been describing a very strange experience and feeling my girlfriend and I had while stopping briefly in Tehachapi California. We both were so taken aback by the odd-feeling of the place and the people, that I was intuitively certain there was some kind of underground base or facility nearby. I never wish to drive through there ever again!):

(Hiram)
Well once i returned home I went online and found some really obscure references to an underground facility run by Lockheed called "The Anthill" reported to be in the area of Tehachapi!! I was like: BINGO!

(Ringo) I've heard of The Anthill, but I can't for the life of me remember where. Hmmm. As far as I know I have never been directly associated with Lockheed. I have however worked with Lockheed employees (unacknowledged) in certain "Black Projects".

(Hiram)
I'll tell you Ringo, It was almost as if the town had been taken over by something, from underground!


(Ringo) I just remembered! This may interest you slightly more. To the East of Ellsworth AFB (Delta-V Experience) on I-90 there is a small town called New Underwood (SD) (Now doesn't THAT sound like a town or village in a Horror or Occult movie!). My x-wife and I visited there looking for off-base rental housing. We drove around, even had lunch there, and talked to quite a few people. They were ALL really friendly. Almost too friendly. And something about the place just felt strongly weird and not-right, to both of us. We never EVER went back to that place!

Anyone else have experiences like this?

[Bluewool]

Sorry but felt this was relevent.A cut and paste from Sa Lu Sa's channeled December 3rd message.Reminded me of the video Bill refered to earlier in the thread.

We note that as our craft are seen more frequently in your skies, the dark Ones are also coming out more into the open. Their secret craft are not in any way like the conventional ones you are used to seeing. They are similar to some of ours, but as a guide we would suggest you reserve your judgement where triangular craft are concerned. Perhaps a give away sign is the system of coloured lights used to identify your own, which are not to be found on ours. Yes, we do sometimes have circular craft that are lit up on the rims, but these usually run all the way round. You have no need to be concerned about any craft you see, as we monitor them all and know with what intent are within your earth’s atmosphere. Bear in mind that we come in peace, and are to protect you from any other intrusion and possible attack upon you.

Source: http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled%20messages/December%202010/salusa__3december2010.htm

[str8thinker]

The big question to me now is, to what extent should we regard all black triangular UFO as being USAF military aircraft? What about the one seen over Moscow? Can we infer this as evidence of military collaboration?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1236880/UFO-hovers-Red-Square-Moscow.html
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2937

[Leon]

Found a little info here: http://keyholepublishing.com/What_Are_The_Triangles.htm

[Moemers]

Any updates Hiram?

[Oouthere]

Being an abductee in training we get to see some interesting technology. I remember being allowed to fly a much smaller triangle back in the 1980's, my son flew what seems to be the same type craft in the last couple of years. I don't remember much about it, but it did not seem to have landing gear but instead levitated about a foot or so off the ground. It was black, about 6' to 8' wide at its wides point and maybe 10' or so long. The cockpit had no buttons but did have a typical HUD like in a F-16 (without the control panel), the craft interface system was made by placing your right hand on what felt like a joystick except it did not move. The craft seemed to fly by intent and was incredibly quick and fast. I remember having a wingman and us flying to two different bases that night.

Of particular note is this was on an air force base as on the other side of the flight line fence sat a grey C-130. My real opinion is this was a consciousness only training and nothing physical ever happened, but at least 7 people I have found remember flying this same craft.

Anyway, for what it's worth.

Rich

[Snowbird]

Am in a big hurry right now, but both the U.S. and the Andromedans fly the triangular craft. I'm sure that the one pictured, however, is U.S.

[Kent Fallman]

OXsZRc-cdGw

That video stinks fake

[Harley]

Daytime UFO Recorded From Passenger Plane

For a brief moment at the beginning of the video you can plainly see this is a Delta-Winged Craft.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSdPcxh4HhA&feature=player_embedded

Here is a screen-shot of it.

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1643&d=1310674361

This craft appears to be similar to one I witnessed back in 1980 when I was in the A.F. I seen this craft twice: Once in a hangar and once hovering completely silently over the tarmac at the far-end of the runway.

These are man-made and they are space craft.

The one I saw was unmarked, which led me to believe even at that time that it probably wasn't owned or operated by the "Known Military".

A short article on this siting can be found at Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/unexplained-phenomena-in-national/shocking-footage-surfaces-of-ufo-recorded-from-a-passenger-plane-video)

Harley

[KiwiElf]

Check Post #249 here, or enter "Michael Schratt" into search engine. Schratt details most of the "Secret Space Program" craft.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=42135&highlight=michael+schratt#post42135

Also here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30260-Anti-Gravity-and-Secret-Space-Program

[Harley]

Check Post #249 here, or enter "Michael Schratt" into search engine. Schratt details most of the "Secret Space Program" craft.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=42135&highlight=michael+schratt#post42135

Also here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30260-Anti-Gravity-and-Secret-Space-Program

I have known of Michael Schratt for at-least a couple of years. He is a military aerospace historian who, through his own contacts which have had first hand experience dealing with classified black programs, has been researching and reporting on top secret military planes and technology.

And a very fine job he does!

However, there's one thing to remember. Schratt (as far as I know) has never been an insider himself nor has he witnessed any black projects in the first-person, therefore he can only research and report on what has been revealed to him by his contacts.

My point in stating the above is that the OP of this thread has brought forth a disclosure by an anonymous insider and first-hand witness that actually corroborates with and helps to validate much of Michael Schratts work.

Thank You!

:)

[KiwiElf]

Yah... I know ;) Schratt denies any reverse engineering of alien craft and I think he's wrong. (How would he know????) Flies in the face of some very credible witnesses and whistleblowers. The principles were well known back in the 40's but I think we "had help" - Werner von Braun stated this on several occasions - perhaps Schratt needs to expand his research a tad ;)

[mountain_jim]

and updated impressive video sighting

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discussed in this thread

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40774-Triangle-UFO-Over-Bolivia-During-Thunder-Storm-Looks-like-a-TR-3B-Video-Jan-17-2011&p=429239#post429239

[mojo]

They are similar to some of ours, but as a guide we would suggest you reserve your judgement where triangular craft are concerned. Perhaps a give away sign is the system of coloured lights used to identify your own, which are not to be found on ours.


Would secret gov aircraft advertize their position with aviation lights or fly with running lights? More likely they would not. What are the lights on craft that can morph shape?

[GSW128]

I hope it’s alright to chime in here; I just joined the site a few days ago. If I had known this website was here I would have asked to join long ago. I’m truly honored to be a part of this family, I have so much to share, and by the looks of things I have even more to learn.

Okay, in 1994 I was living on the Outer Banks of North Carolina at the time. It was quite common to see military craft flying up and down the coast a good twenty to thirty times a day. I've pretty much seen and heard them all. It was about 6 PM and was just turning dark outside, but still bright enough to see the detail of this craft.

I was inside at the time when I heard a sound I was not at all familiar with. It sort of sounded like a plane; but I knew if it was it must have been much too far away to see any detail, being I could barely hear it engine. I step outside and less than a hundred yards away over top of the tree-line was this triangle craft barley moving. I remember thinking that this thing should have literally fallen out of the sky considering I could have easily run faster than its current speed. The craft was identical to one in the video Bill uploaded. It looked to be around 30 feet long; a perfect triangle. It had smooth rounded edges with a light underneath at each point of the craft, and the larger one in the center. I've tried many times to describe the sound it made but I've never heard anything like it. It was sort of a muffled low pitch humming sound. My first impression was military, given the twin tail fins and what looked sort of like a cockpit on a jet fighter. It was so aerodynamically perfect; I’d never seen anything like it in my life.

[Cidersomerset]

A couple of articles on Davids site , that have been covered many times, but it
maybe new to people looking in for the first time. The Mars Colony vid is a
summery of alternate views on the possibly, already colonised Mars.

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Black Triangles: Cornerstone of USA Space Fleet?

Monday 23rd June 2014 at 05:52 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/black_triangle_delta_theobjectreport.jpg


‘This report voices what I have been suspecting for a long time; that the USA has a
secret aircraft program responsible for the large triangular shaped aircraft that have
been seen at night from time to time in the USA and occasionally elsewhere. The craft
emulate USA stealth technology and they also show lights typical of actual aircraft. In
short this is a UFO of terrestrial origins.

Way more important is that the craft’s behavior powerfully suggests that the craft has
gravity cancellation technology. It is often travelling way too slow to be relying on pure
aerodynamics or so it seems. I could be wrong on this, but considering that I now have
a clear grasp of how to address the gravity problem it would be no surprise at all. I am
already well convinced it is possible and a natural intermediate step is to place this
technology inside a large craft along with a real power plant.’

This could also be the craft applying microwave lasers to make crop circles. Thus this
technology has been about for at least thirty years and possibly much longer. The rest
of our technology has had to catch up in order to apply it as we now see. We are also
been conditioned to expect such miracles while ample misdirection and outright
denial is keeping huge parts secret.


Special Reports – Black Triangles

by Harry Howard

General George S. Brown


“I don't know whether this story has ever been told or not. They weren't called UFOs.
They were called enemy helicopters. And they were only seen at night and they were
only seen in certain places. They were seen up around the DMZ in the early summer
of '68. And this resulted in quite a little battle. And in the course of this, an Australian
destroyer took a hit and we never found any enemy, we only found ourselves when this
had all been sorted out. And this caused some shooting there, and there was no enemy
at all involved but we always reacted.

Always after dark, the same thing happened up at Pleiku at the Highlands in '69.
General George S. Brown, USAF Chief of Staff, Department of Defense transcript of
press conference in Illinois, October 16, 1973.

I often briefed General Brown when I was an intelligence officer at 7th Air Force
Headquarters in Vietnam. After my first briefing to him, he sent me a note saying. “It’s
alright if you choose to wear your glasses.” Later he became Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff. 1974 to1978

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ir4fbfc5e1.jpg

Black Triangles: The Worst Kept Secret


Harv Howard writes, “The US tends to typically develop advanced aircraft in fairly full
public view in terms of proposals, funding, development, quantities and problems. The
current F-22, F-35 and B-2 bomber projects have proceeded in that manner. But when
aircraft are extremely top secret, they get buried too deeply to trace, from the initial
black budget allotments through to the various, aspects of their development and well
into theaters of operation.”

The U-2, SR-71 and the F-117A from the depths of Lockheed’s famed Skunk Works
didn’t become known to the public until after years in practical use. Today the evidence
is over whelming, secrets can be kept by aerospace industries and government. The so-
called “black triangles” can be added to the list of secret black budget items. Funding
would have come variously from “Star Wars” money, some of trillion that the Pentagon
lost, programs that never were, and typically and easily done, “overruns,” tacked onto
other projects built such as the very expensive B-2 bomber and the F-117A.

Thousands of sightings of the triangles make it hard to quibble with that blanket
assessment. The triangles exist. Verification comes continually that these mind-blowing
craft exist. Almost every typical American citizens witness a huge and dark triangle
moving low, slow and silently overhead. Some are so shaken by the experience that
they pay particular attention to the vehicles, enough to make a decent determinations
of the unique characteristics of the craft. The differences between the new method of
hovering and moving through the air and that of conventional aircraft of any type are
unmistakable and troubling and not forgotten to some witnesses. As a consequence and
not so strangely, we know more about triangles, unofficially, than any aircraft ever
secretly produced in this country.


Most of us interested in the term “triangles” know from regular media accounts that
these craft demonstrate uncanny aerial displays to the public in the US and the UK
almost daily. Rarely are these craft reported in any area outside of the US and Europe.
Being so publically displayed on Western soil, why is it that after about thirty years of
being witnessed these craft have not been revealed to the American public?

What is the point of hiding such remarkable craft if the intelligence agencies of
potential enemies and even the man-on-the-street can easily figure out that these
fabulous craft are our government’s utility replacement for the dismissed space shuttle
and manned rockets? Why allow the American public to puzzle upon why our leaders
and planners have failed us, lost our edge in space to nations using rocket technology
that we have abandoned for the most part and yet seemingly have forced us to
purchase rides to the ISS for our equipment and crew from others? It doesn’t make
good sense unless there is an ace up Uncle’s sleeve.

There are aspects to the situation that are not so simple to explain. But first, we need
to establish the importance of the triangles to our real world situation. The triangles
(and similarly powered craft) are the greatest development in the history of mechanical
devices since the invention of the wheel. These machines are not true aircraft. They do
not use the atmosphere (air) for lift or propulsion. Their basic feature sidesteps the
effects of gravity. That totally different method of locomotion will allow us to literally
transform human activities on earth and explorations into space. Basically, there are a
mode of quick, reliable and low-cost transportation that will replace several other types
currently used in/on the air, land and sea.

In addition, their almost miraculous bending of physics contrary to conventional views
automatically gives them the distinction of being the greatest weapon ever placed in the
hands of a world power. That feature alone is enough to explain why they remain top
secret devices.

http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/4817185866_0fe642d14a-300x230.jpg


How that secret is handled is something else entirely and seems puzzling on the face of
it. Seeming to move in impossible and unbelievable ways is the key to why we are
allowed to see them performing in exactly such a manner. The secret keepers want us
to notice the bizarre shapes and antics. Yet, why display the triangles so publically and
not bring them forth after at least three decades of being reported in our skies?

Because it is all a charade, aided and abetted by all areas of aviation, both military and
civilian. The segments of society that should be most interested in such reports are
mum on the triangles, ignoring all incidents and lying about those they cannot ignore.
–Sound familiar? Haven’t we endured over half a century of the (apparent) lack of
official acknowledgment and investigations into the UFO phenomena?

The strategy behind that continued deceit is brilliant, even if a carryover of how
officialdom has always dealt with the UFO, but it has another key component. And that
is that the sightings of the triangles dovetail into and help perpetuate the on-going UFO
drama that we live with every day. (Regardless of what many of you want to think,
genuine UFOs, alien craft, present a very serious situation to all of Earth that eventually
must conclude in some form of publically announced contact with ETs which will only be
the beginning of the intervention.)

As it stands, a mysterious triangle exhibiting UFO-like capabilities is understandably
labeled as a typical UFO sighting (another non-event) and with that classification
assigned; all need for further investigation evaporates. Broadcast TV news: “Put on
your tin-foil hats, folks, another mysterious triangle reported hovering over Boston last
night.” A follow up sentence will advise that the supposed event should not be taken
too seriously as government officials showed little interest in the public’s reports of the
object. So it was something or nothing, but definitely not a secret government triangle-
shaped craft because they don’t fly them around in public like that. Right? After all,
allowing a top secret craft to deliberately hover low over Boston on a Saturday night to
be seen in all of its glory is totally absurd. Such an event goes against the basic rules in
any playbook for black budget projects. The damned thing should be out West
someplace, Area 51, maybe, not shocking the early night bar crowd in Boston. And so
it goes, a type of UFO is witnessed but only civilians take notice.

Most of the world knows what the English letters of “UFO” represent and what they
mean in some fashion. That understanding, that concept in itself, is a world-wide
phenomenon of some note. Recognition and acceptance of the true meaning behind
alien UFOs is a natural and required progressive step for humanity to travel because the
triangles (one way or another) were derived from the bizarre physics of the UFOs and
that foundation secret must be kept as long as possible even as the triangles become
commonplace in our lives. So we have a rigged paradox surrounding the triangles/UFO
relationship saga.


The second reason why the strange ways of the triangles is also strategic is just as
important and twisted. Less than friendly countries will have noted for years now the
reports of triangles in the Western media and have pay close attention to the details
that clearly eliminate the craft from being conventional, even advanced, true aircraft.
How do they react to such news? They know full well that UFOs are real alien craft, and
they note that our machines mimic UFOs. Anything but fools, they know that we know,
somehow, the secret of the UFO method of power. They feverishly work on their
theories if not prototypes. They would make bold and varied attempts to steal highly
classified data in any way imaginable. They are masters at it. If the English hacker
Gary McKinnon can learn important but not critical details about our space fleets with a
little perseverance and computer skill, so can any country with a decent spy program.
Have they had any luck? We can imagine that they have obtained a substantial
knowledge of our operations.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3797361408/h6FDC7E74/


As a result of our best capabilities being in full view to our potential enemies, the
current situation in the world is generally stable because of the existence of the
triangles. However, it is a very unbalance stalemate of course. As our black secret is
known on far shores, it is doubtful that any major effort of any kind will be started by
the laggards that could provoke the wrath of a fleet of space-capable, UFO-like triangles
carrying a variety of weapons.


With the capabilities inherent in the triangles, without a doubt, we control all near-
earth space, off-planet exploration and any serious surface wars that would be directly
against us. Not until a country announces a similar craft will we be forced to make our
own admission and display our true dominance for the public to see. The longer it takes
our enemies—and potential competitors--to build their versions of the mass less
triangles, the better the odds against their ever gaining parity on that score alone.
Despite what they suspect or know about our triangles, the smart potential adversaries
would keep quiet as they do their own intense work.

As stated earlier, the new principles of physics in the triangles is the greatest weapon
every developed by man for war…and we must add, also the greatest thing for
commerce, as also was true for the wheel.

Any use of the new secret craft would not be left to the whim of military commanders,
or even top government officials fueled by their own politician agendas but from a
larger, more benign, general strategy of the world not based on old versions and visions
of world conquest. It will be more of a philosophical ideology than being politically
based. The so-called “coming of the saucers” in 1947 has disturbed the usually forces
that rule Earth.


Initially, the earthlings in control panicked a world war had recently ended and political
ideologies were running rampant across the world. These days, evidently the ETs have
told Earth’s leaders what they must do. We see signs everywhere of the changes and
earnest efforts to transform the population of the planet from one state of mind to a
more rational state of mine and being.

The New World Order, a dream for some and a nightmare for others, is being social
engineered. Done in some countries by their own initiative and forced onto others by
the UN to bring to fruition the plan. The major intent is to save the world from the
destructive effects of mankind’s boundless consumption of resources before it sickens
and dies as a living planet. Rescuing humanity from its own restless need for war and/or
economic conquest is secondary.

The eventual introduction of the triangles and similarly powered craft into commercial
avenues and expanded but benign military use will ease many of the approaching
burdens around the world. But as the ships go about their duties carrying aid in those
dark days, many fists will be raised and shaken at them in futile anger. Let it not be
more than that display. Otherwise, a ship with troops will be quickly summoned.
Complete freedom will be remembered as a term briefly used in the foundation of
the United States of American, but it was short-lived and was only a dream
anyway. Perhaps a reset of the human apparatus of existence isn’t such a bad
plan. Maybe there is a better way.

Thanks to Harv Howard


From Terra Forming Terra @ http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/black-triangle-cornerstone-of-usa-star.html


Read more: Black Triangles: Cornerstone of USA Space Fleet?

http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/black-triangles-cornerstone-of-usa.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Retired US Marine claims he spent 17 years on MARS protecting five human colonies from Martians

Monday 23rd June 2014 at 05:53 By David Icke


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‘The retired officer, known only as Captain Kaye, also claims to have served in a
secret ‘space fleet’ run by a multinational organisation called the Earth Defense Force.

The ex-naval infantryman, who uses the pseudonym Captain Kaye, says he was
posted to the Red Planet to protect five human colonies from indigenous Martian life forms.

He claims he then spent nearly three years serving in a secret ‘space fleet’ run by a
multinational organisation called the Earth Defense Force, which recruits military
personnel from countries including the US, Russia and China.’

Read more: Retired US Marine claims he spent 17 years on MARS protecting five human colonies from Martians

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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The vids below presumes the above is BS and speculates what it would be like to
colonise Mars. One of the theories is wrong.....LOL. There has been a lot in the
mainstream about private enterprise expeditions to Mars, all of which are a bit of
a 'red herring' imo. I'dbe surprised if we did not have a secret space fleet since we
went from Biplane to jet in under fifty years.At the speed of technology advance in
general, it would be surprising to me if we had not been to Mars and beyond years ago.


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25 th feb 2014

Scientists have unveiled new evidence which they say proves water could be
flowing on Mars right now -- a claim that could debunk the long-held belief that the
Red Planet has been completely dry for billions of years. Lujendra Ojha and a
number of his fellow academics at the Georgia Tech have proposed that the dark,
finger-shaped features on Martian slopes which disappear and reappear as seasons
change are, in fact, flows of saltwater. RT's Liz Wahl asks Ojha if the discovery of
water on Mars could one day soon lead to the colonization of the Red Planet.
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A conventional view....



These People will Live On Mars - Colonization of Mars

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COLONIZE MARS [Space Documentary]

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[GoodETxSG]

Jinx one of us owes the other a Coke... I was posting the same article on my Space Fleet Thread at the same time you were. :cool:

Thread: U.S. Has 8 Cigar Shaped UFOs In Space Fleet Used For “Solar Warden,” Program To Protect Solar System

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56532-U.S.-Has-8-Cigar-Shaped-UFOs-In-Space-Fleet-Used-For---Solar-Warden----Program-To-Protect-Solar-System
:alien:

[Cidersomerset]

Jinx one of us owes the other a Coke... I was posting the same article on my Space Fleet Thread at the same time you were.


Cheers its the weather for a cool drink...LOL


http://www.inspirepattaya.com/wp-content/uploads/Traditional.jpg
http://www.thedrinksreport.com/media/news/2014/15406-c1.jpg

[Cidersomerset]

Alien Artifacts on Mars & Infamous Conspiracies New 2014 Documentary

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[Cidersomerset]

Former NASA Scientist claims conspiracy about Mars photo

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Former NASA Scientist Richard Hoover shares revelations with journalist Lee Speigel from the Huffington Post.

Hoover talks about the fact that someone may have destroyed evidence of life on Mars.

This took place at the Open Minds 2014 International UFO Congress and Film Festival in Fountain Hills Arizona.

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This is the before and after sample pictures Richard Hoover is talking about...


http://d38zt8ehae1tnt.cloudfront.net/FORMER_NASA_SCIENTIST_CONFIRMS_ALIEN_LIFE_ON_MARS__EVIDENCE_DESTROYED_Richard_Hoover_25Feb2014__1670 91.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CdCpqQtuFQA/UvGVVHOCBGI/AAAAAAAAW3s/IoubPcDKK1c/s1600/hoover.png

http://missiongalacticfreedom.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/marslife.jpeg

[onawah]

From Forbidden Knowledge:


This presentation by Jim Nichols
claims that there is evidence of a
secret colony of Earth humans on
Mars, which has been in existence
for several decades and it seeks to
present the best evidence available
that there is, indeed life on Mars.

Part of his evidence is based on the
claims, in recent years by President
Eisenhower's great-granddaughter
and by others of a survival colony
on Mars, constructed in case of
imminent natural- or man-made
catastrophes, which could decimate
the Earth's population.

There are several publicly-known
projects for *future* colonization
and exploration of Mars.

Earlier this year, a Netherlands-
based corporation, Mars One,
released a public relations campaign,
announcing that they were seeking
applicants to be trained as astronauts
for their proposed one-way ticket to
a colony on Mars, to be established
by 2023. (Currently, this astronaut
program is closed to new applicants).

In April 2010, at NASA's Kennedy
Space Center in Florida, President
Obama announced plans for a
manned mission that includes a trip
to orbit Mars and return to Earth in
the 2030s.

Coincidentally, I met an engineer at
JPL, who is the nephew of a longtime
family friend from Brazil just a few
weeks before Obama's announcement,
of whom I later heard he was relieved
that he no longer had to keep secret
that he'd been working on this project
for years.

I was recently contacted by someone
who is working in a private enterprise
to enable commercial projects and
tourism on the Red Planet. Ironically,
he contacted me to categorically deny
the claims of Laura Eisenhower, of
attempts to recruit her into an existing
Mars colony. His email address was
associated with this web domain.

He wrote, "This is the case of the Little
Girl who cried Mars, my dear. You
should let people know..."

This contact occurred in response to
a video that I broadcast of an
Exopolitics interview of Eisenhower,
last May.

Richard D. Dell, Jr. wrote to me that he
had been her romantic partner, at the
time of her alleged recruitment attempt:

"...she watched me studying diagrams
in a notebook, sent to me by a friend
who had found the designs for a Moon
base by Werner Von Braun, from 1959,
recently released from a FOIA request.
At the time, I often talked excitedly
about my passion; to build a settlement
on Mars. Neither myself nor anyone I
know has been to Mars. Furthermore, I
wish I could convey the chagrin and
humor of receiving a phone call from
Hal Puthoff asking me to ask Laura to
stop telling people he has a teleportation
pad to Mars. I can assure you, I have
been to his office, he does not have a
teleportation pad to Mars, and I have
never been to Mars myself, as much as
I would like to go..."

He wrote that he'd "...be happy to sign
an affidavit," to all of the above, in
addition to the following:

- Her real name is Laura Mahon. Her
mother's maiden name is Eisenhower.

- She has two adorable sons. (I'll
leave out the comments he made,
which could be construed to be
disparaging, except to say that he
expressed that Laura was extremely
unwell, at that time). He stated that,
"I stayed with her for a year because
of pity for the boys."

A Google search reveals that a Richard
D. Dell, Jr. is associated with an inactive
website, dating back to 2008, called
'International Association of Space
Entrepreneurs,' as well as a 2011
interview he gave, describing his plans
to build an "Inertial electrostatic
confinement fusion-powered" rocket
craft with physicist, George Miley.

In that interview, Dell claimed that, "This
technology will change everything. By
2020, we could be actively implementing
commercial settlement and/or tourist
expeditions to Mars."

Given Richard Dell's association with Hal
Puthoff, an electrical engineer by training
who holds patents for high-tech lasers and
electron beam devices and who has recently
been involved in privately-funded projects
related to energy generation and space
propulsion, Puthoff is notorious for having
been the Director of the CIA/DIA-funded
Stargate Project at Stanford Research
Institute, during the 1970s and 1980s,
which investigated psychic abilities, such
as remote viewing.

Puthoff collaborated with Russell Targ, in a
study of the abilities of Uri Geller, Ingo
Swann, Pat Price, Joseph McMoneagle and
others, where they became convinced that
some of their subjects possessed genuine
psychic powers.

Any seasoned student of urban legends
relating to Martian colonies and a breakaway
civilization knows that these always seem to
go hand-in-hand with alphabet mind control
projects, such as those overseen by Hal
Puthoff - and one is definitely left wishing
that one had the psychic skills to know the
truth behind such legends!
The Secret Mars Colony

(Video: under 34 minutes):
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http://www.ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.com/page/26490.html

I've never felt that Laura Eishenhower was credible.

[GoodETxSG]

The Eisenhower story didn't track with me either.

Her info along with much other "Secret Space Program" topics are covered on a couple threads I started on the matters as well as a few others.

The latest info coming out on the Mars Colonies and Earth Defence Force/Mars Defence Force just prior to the "Secret Space and Break Away Civilization" Conference going on right now in CA (http://www.secretspaceprogram.org/) are posted on the "US Space Command" Thread as well to centralize info for my own research purposes.

That info dove tails with this topic quite well... I hope you do not mind me posting both of those sites here for those seeking further history on both topics... :o

Paul, one of our very own Moderators is at the conference. I look forward to what he has to say as well as the video's that will be released of the speakers and any new info they may have. I look forward to viewing and posting them as well...

Thread: U.S. Has 8 Cigar Shaped UFOs In Space Fleet Used For “Solar Warden,” Program To Protect Solar System:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56532-U.S.-Has-8-Cigar-Shaped-UFOs-In-Space-Fleet-Used-For---Solar-Warden----Program-To-Protect-Solar-System

Thread: Advanced Breakaway Civilizations, ETs/EDs, SOL System Wars & awakening from our slavery:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60111-Advanced-Breakaway-Civilizations-ETs-EDs-SOL-System-Wars-awakening-from-our-slavery

[onawah]

I look forward to Paul's report as well. Great post! Thanks GoodeTXSG.

[ghostrider]

Henoch , predicted we would return to Mars , find old technology that still works , build stations , and colonize Mars again ... next they will discover Man did not originate on earth , or Mars ... Mars holds pyramids , Egyptian statues , and star information that will eventually be traced back to 80 light years beyond the pleadies in a different spacetime configuration , then back to the constellation Lyra , the original home world of man in this Universe , brought here from another Universe through a space bridge built by the old Lyrians that connect our Universe with it's twin ... Mars holds the key to deeper space travel, and an expedition will happen to visit our true homeworld one day ...

[Cidersomerset]

I thought that vid looked familiar , I
posted it on a similar thread......

Black Triangles: Cornerstone of USA Space Fleet? // UFOTV® Presents - THE SECRET MARS COLONY

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72453-Black-Triangles-Cornerstone-of-USA-Space-Fleet-UFOTV---Presents-THE-SECRET-MARS-COLONY

[GoodETxSG]

Hello Cidersomerset, It appears both of those Threads were "Merged" as they had the same content. When I clicked your link it brought me back here. Just an FYI... ;)

[Cidersomerset]

Hello Cidersomerset, It appears both of those Threads were "Merged" as they had the same content. When I clicked your link it brought me back here. Just an FYI...

Yeah I watched a Rich planet interview which updates the TR3B part of this thread


Richplanet TV - 21/06/14.. Edgar Fouche & US Secret Space Fleet with resarcher Andrew Johnson Avalon member

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72625-Richplanet-TV-21-06-14..-Edgar-Fouche-US-Secret-Space-Fleet-with-resarcher-Andrew-Johnson-Avalon-member&p=848863#post848863

[linksplatinum]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/20/the-connection-between-aurora-and-black-triangles/
An Electro-magnetic and Aerodynamic Weight Loss Reduction System for low Earth Orbiting Space Craft
 

… by  Jeff Smith,  Science Editor
 

[ Editor's note:  From time to time over the past few months, we have delved into areas where we have had to, for reasons of "national security," release classified material allegorically while supplementing recently declassified material, often "hard science," in an attempt to provide the persistent researcher a roadmap.

We aren't going to state that UFO's are "real."  Believers and deniers have had decades to decide.  We will simply tell you exactly how they work.  You can decide for yourself if they exist or not.  We simply tell you exactly how they do what they do "if they existed" which is none of our business, if you get my meaning. ]


It has been observed that microwave and or nuclear radiation has been associated with UFO activity for a long time.

Flying saucers function by ionizing the air surrounding their spacecraft produced by radiation exposure to their surface structure.  They “thin” the local gravitational field by separating the ions with a strong magnetic field so they are effectively flying through a rarefied atmosphere similar in composition to the ionosphere.

The diminished pressure gradients eases the boundary layer effects between the saucer’s hull and the atmosphere, thereby substantially reducing or completely eliminating the effects of Gravity. The production of a magnetic over-gradient in the atmosphere surrounding the space craft creates a counterbary to the effects of gravity. (Magnetic buoyancy).

Flying saucers have been using microwave and or neutron radiation to reduce plasma-air density in the atmosphere surrounding the saucer’s edge by simply heating or turning the air into an ionizing plasma.  It has previously been suggested that the transfer of photon momentum (hv/c) is employed in repel the ionized air molecules. However, only thermal and magnetic effects are considered in this analysis, although photon momentum transfer will enhance the net effect.

The reduction of both inertial and viscous drag are envisioned because the saucer encounters an artificially rarefied troposphere. Moreover, radiation symmetry covering the edges of the saucer prevents turbulent collapse of the air flow and instead yields a smooth laminar pattern. Thus, these saucers can travel at supersonic velocities at sea level without a sonic boom because the Mach speed increases with decreasing air density. The hot ionizing air (plasma) surrounding the saucers produces their familiar appearance. They light up like a light bulb.



Heating the air around an aircraft has been previously suggested as a means to reduce shock waves and ease flight. Suggested direct methods for heating the air (e.g. by combustion or by nuclear radiation) for purposes of eliminating an aircraft’s “sonic boom” can be done by the injection and ignition of fuel in front of an aircraft so air density could be reduced.

The use of a forward firing laser energy source to reduce air drag and eliminate sonic booms has been tested on the Aurora space plane. IE. Donuts on a rope contrails. All the above techniques heat the atmosphere by some means. The key to creating artificial magnetic buoyancy weight reduction and aerodynamic drag reduction is by the thermal ionization of the gas particles surrounding a space craft in flight.



The Oxygen microwave absorption peak occurs almost exactly at 60 GHz, and this energy source is proposed as the primary RF radiated by the UFO. Both H2O and O2 molecules have substantial dipoles which can easily be excited by microwave radiation.

See Figure 1. This is not the case with the Nitrogen molecules as they have no significant dipoles. While two H2O and one O2 absorption bands exist at higher frequencies there would be no need to use them. The strong Oxygen band (60 GHz) will be encountered in any terrestrial atmosphere. Megawatt level microwave power tubes that operate at 60 GHz are commercially available.

FREQUENCY GHz
Attenuation Band Media Attenuation Band Center
First H2O Band 22.2 GHz
First O2 Band 60 GHz
Second O2 Band 119 GHz
Second H2O Band 180 GHz
Third H2O Band 320 GHz
Figure 1. Atmospheric Attenuation Of Microwave Radiation.

If the 60 GHz RF signal is transmitted with a 0.0012 duty cycle from antennas (about 13 centimeters high) encircling the saucer, producing a +/- 1.24o beam. The air is heated with power producing ionization of the O2molecules up to 6 meters from the saucer’s rim, causing a visible glow. The O2 shares energy with the Nitrogen, heating a 2 meter high, 30 meter wide stream of onrushing (1000 mph) air to 2100o K.



The RF excited O2 molecules will transfer some of their thermal energy to Nitrogen (N2) molecules and produce a brilliant, dazzling luminosity (known as plasma). The colors are likely the result of energy radiating and re-radiation from H+, H2, OH- and H2O ions. Oxygen and water vapor molecules glow, especially about the saucer’s rim, because microwave energy (attuned to the rotational rate of these molecules) is being used to excite them.



This glow’s exact color is difficult to anticipate due to complex radiation and re-radiation from water molecules, related ions and other impurities. For example, Hydrogen ions – formed from water molecules – will glow a bluish green color. The plasma, near the antenna’s aperture (located around the saucer’s rim) would normally be bluish, but Sodium ions (from the sea’s salt) will modify it causing a yellowish color. Only minor plasma distortions are found on high speed UFOs.

The ion-air density (and the inertial drag) surrounding the space craft could be reduced by a factor of 7 (Boyle’s law) if the air has been heated to 2100o K. A 30 meter saucer’s large surface area would serve as an effective radiator. Inertial drag is linearly proportional to the air density but proportional to the square of the aircraft’s velocity. Thus, the saucer could fly 2.8 times faster than the speed of sound.

Viscous drag forces could also be reduced because the accumulation of boundary layer fluid (air) on the surface of the saucer is diminished. A conventional way sometimes suggested to reduce this accumulation of air adhering to conventional aircraft’s wings is to suck it into the wing through slots and then exhaust it through the rear of the aircraft (or its wings).

If the saucer’s skin is conductive (e.g. metallic) and if the 60 GHz antenna is loosely coupled to it, a small amount of the microwave or neutron radiation will leak onto the fuselage. This radiation will spread over the saucer’s surface, heating the adhering air and dispelling it thereby reducing viscous drag. It will also push back any magnetic field lines due to what is called a “plasma induced electron disconnect” with the surrounding localized magnetic fields.

At supersonic speeds, the pressure field is confined to a region at the rear and extends from a conventional aircraft in a widening (Mach) cone. When it intersects the earth, a “sonic boom” is often heard. A “sonic boom” is a type of shock wave that occurs when waves generated by a source over a period of time add together in a coherent manner (re-enforcing peaks and deepening troughs). IE A Scalier wave.

This process is much like the way a V shaped bow wave is created by a motor boat when its speed is greater than the speed of the waves naturally supported by the water. The decreased pressure gradient at the front of the saucer destroys the coherency of the pressure fronts and they do not add together coherently. Thus, the “sonic boom” is reduced or completely eliminated. This is analogous to the effect of using a bulbous bow rather that a straight sharp (motor boat) bow on large ships. Such bows enables these large vessels to more effectively (and economically) pass through the ocean.

The hot ionized air bubble surrounding the space craft streamlines it. The pressure gradients acting on the boundary layer between the ambient air and the space craft are dramatically reduced, because they are distributed evenly over an area of several meters for saucer shaped space craft, versus several centimeters for airplanes.

For a normal airplane, the drag coefficient always rises as the Mach number approaches unity, but thereafter it may fall. The hot air or ionized gas bubble surrounding a saucer shaped airframe reduces the power that is needed to be expended at supersonic speeds. This is due to the coherent addition of pressure waves surrounding the saucer being degraded. This will reduce or eliminate the energy transmitted to the shock front thereby reducing or eliminating the “sonic boom” which otherwise would be caused by a high-speed passage of the saucer.

The emission of ionizing radiation in the air surrounding the saucer will also attenuate the transmission and reception of radar signals unless the ionizing radiation is intermittent. Due to this effect it is suggested that the saucers utilizes a 60 GHz magnetron tube operating with a 50% duty cycle that would be turned off for 833 microseconds and on for 833 microseconds every at a 1667 microsecond pulse rate interval.

Thus, the air’s O2 molecules would be heated for 833 microseconds every time they moved about a half meter closer to the saucer. A circular phased array radar antenna located on the saucer’s outer rim and operating with pulsed RF in the L or S band, would serve nicely for this purpose. A proposed circular or triangular shaped space craft would work well using this type of propulsion system for a low earth orbit space craft launched from the earth.

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The term plasma refers to a high-temperature, ionized gas that is electrically neutral. The motion of the gas is dominated by electromagnetic interactions and because it is a excellent conductor, plasmas interacts directly with electromagnetic fields. The study of plasmas is called hydromagnetic or magneto hydrodynamics. This is the key to gravity and magnetic buoyancy. ” Plasma interacts directly with Electromagnetic fields. The motion of the gas is dominated by its electromagnetic interactions”. IE. Gravity.
Modem plasma physics holds that the plasma fireball receives its energy from its surroundings by the naturally created electro magnetic field lines of the earth and that the diameter of the plasma sphere depends on the frequency of the external field that plasma resonance occurs at.

This means that if you burn hydrogen / Deuterium gas in a microwave oven you will get a 3 centimeter diameter sized plasma fire ball creating nuclear fusion in a home microwave oven. It is called a Farnsworth Fuser. Look it up on wiki. Also the Poulsen plasma arc transmitter / furnace dose the same thing but only with magnetic containment. This was the German technique used during WW1 and 2.

This is the Light bulb with a tungsten coated filament in the microwave experiment. Try it. Just put a clear light bulb in the microwave and see what happens. PS use an old microwave oven it will melt the paint job…..AND USE SAFETY GLASSES. FIRE EXTINGUISHER ETC. WARNING, DANGER WILL ROBSON. IT CAN GO BANG. Kids don’t do this at home……

Resources:

Black Triangles
Black triangles are a class of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, with certain common features which have reportedly been observed during the 20th and 21st centuries. Media reports of black triangles originally came from the United States and United Kingdom. The aircraft may be related to the rumored USAF Aurora aircraft developmental program.

Reports generally describe this class of UFOs as large, silent, black triangular objects hovering or slowly cruising at low altitudes over cities and highways. Sightings usually take place at night. These objects are often described as having pulsing colored lights that appear at each corner of the triangle.

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Aurora was a rumored mid-1980s American reconnaissance aircraft. There is no substantial evidence that it was ever built or flown and it has been termed a myth. The U.S. government has consistently denied such an aircraft was ever built. Aviation and space reference site Aerospace web.org concluded “The evidence supporting the Aurora is circumstantial or pure conjecture, there is little reason to contradict the government’s position.”

Others come to different conclusions. In 2006, veteran black project watcher and aviation writer Bill Sweetman said, “Does Aurora exist? Years of pursuit have led me to believe that, yes, Aurora is most likely in active development, spurred on by recent advances that have allowed technology to catch up with the ambition that launched the program a generation

Background
The Aurora legend started in March 1990, when Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine broke the news that the term “Aurora” had been inadvertently included in the 1985 U.S. budget, as an allocation of $455 million for “black aircraft production” in FY 1987. According to Aviation Week, Project Aurora referred to a group of exotic aircraft, and not to one particular airframe.

Funding of the project allegedly reached $2.3 billion in fiscal 1987, according to a 1986 procurement document obtained by Aviation Week. In the 1994 book Skunk Works, Ben Rich, the former head of Lockheed’s Skunk Works division, wrote that the Aurora was the budgetary code name for the stealth bomber fly-off that resulted in the B-2 Spirit.

Evidence
By the late 1980s, many aerospace industry observers believed that the U.S. had the technological capability to build a Mach-5 replacement for the aging Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. Detailed examinations of the U.S. defense budget claimed to have found money missing or channeled into black projects.

By the mid-1990s, reports surfaced of sightings of unidentified aircraft flying over California and the United Kingdom involving odd-shaped contrails, sonic booms and related phenomena that suggested the US had developed such an aircraft. Nothing ever linked any of these observations to any program or aircraft type, but the name Aurora was often tagged on these as a way of explaining the observations.

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Additional claims
In the controversial claims of Bob Lazar, he states that during his employment at the mysterious S-4 facility in Nevada, he briefly witnessed an Aurora flight while aboard a bus near Groom Lake. He claimed that there was a “tremendous roar” which sounded almost as if “the sky was tearing.”

Although Lazar only saw the aircraft for a moment through the front of the bus, he described it as being “very large” and having “two huge, square exhausts with vanes in them.” Upon speaking with his supervisor, Lazar claims he was informed that the aircraft was indeed an “Aurora,” a “high altitude research plane.” He was also told that the aircraft was powered by “liquid methane.”

By 1996 reports associated with the Aurora name dropped off in frequency, suggesting to people who believed that the aircraft existed that it had only ever been a prototype or that it had had a short service life.

In 2000, Aberdeen Press and Journal writer Nic Outterside wrote a piece on US stealth technology in Scotland. Citing confidential ‘sources’ he alleged RAF/USAF Machrihanish in Kintyre, Argyll to be a base for Aurora aircraft. Machrihanish’s almost two-mile-long long runway makes it suitable for high-altitude and experimental aircraft with the fenced-off coastal approach making it ideal for takeoffs and landings to be made well away from eyes or cameras of press and public. ‘Oceanic Air Traffic Control at Prestwick’ Outterside says, ‘also tracked fast-moving radar blips. It was claimed by staff that a “hypersonic jet was the only rational conclusion” for the readings.

In 2006, aviation writer Bill Sweetman put together 20 years of examining budget “holes”, unexplained sonic booms, along with the Gibson sighting and concluded: “This evidence helps establish the program’s initial existence. My investigations continue to turn up evidence that suggests current activity.

For example, having spent years sifting through military budgets, tracking untraceable dollars and code names, I learned how to sort out where money was going. This year, when I looked at the Air Force operations budget in detail, I found a $9-billion black hole that seems a perfect fit for a project like Aurora.”

[Snoweagle]

Awesome piece of information. (will comment later, having to rush now)

[ghostrider]

I would speculate , earth humans technology/aircraft produces side effects that appear in the environment , while off world humans aircraft is more like a float in water , it glides to it's destination and doesn't harm the water in any way whatsoever ... Only earth made spaceships would leave a trail or release energy that alters the atmosphere , as we have a long way to go before we achieve the process of reclamation or implosion rather than explosion for propulsion ... Our own Sun holds many secrets to conquering vast distances across the cosmos ... The black triangles belong to us ...

[Hervé]

[...]

...We will simply tell you exactly how they work. [...]


[...]

The diminished pressure gradients eases the boundary layer effects between the saucer’s hull and the atmosphere, thereby substantially reducing or completely eliminating the effects of Gravity. [...]

Alert... divide by zero... cannot compute... alert...

... wait...

... that would be a weather balloon which atmosphere within would be lighter than the atmosphere without..

... YEAH! ... got it!


http://oi61.tinypic.com/20k5947.jpg

[Razzistar]

Thank you so much for posting this. One of my sisters told me that she saw one of these craft in hovering above our backyard. She described it as being black and triangular and that she saw it off in the distance and then it just came over and she thought it was going to hit this big green barn that was next to our house, but it slowed down and just hovered there for a moment. Then it took off. When she told me this I was like, it has to be military. From what I've researched and the dreams I've had, I'm pretty sure they are military. I'm a firm believer that our military has had very advanced weapons and aircraft for a very long time. When our father was in the Army, he worked at certain well known bases in California and told my sisters and I that he saw some really strange things and wouldn't even tell us about it all. He was afraid to and said he took an oath not to talk about those things. Sadly I will never know what he saw. He passed away in late 2012.
So thank you again for posting this. It really helps me and my family not seem so crazy.

[nurture your best]

Thank you for sharing.

[mojo]

I never heard of these guys but definitely love the openness and logical thought process of the hypothesis provided. Think you will enjoy listening to the convo if you like the subject matter.

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PS: Bill Ryan described a triangle in his past newsletter a lot like the image on the corner right.
very intriguing point at 1:04:30 ..." the ufo phenonmenon has a strange relationship to human senses." wow

[Cidersomerset]

Colin Saunders

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zHdA5Q-cDtU/hqdefault.jpg
https://i2-prod.hinckleytimes.net/incoming/article11145388.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS86153660.jpg

https://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/witnesses-share-amazing-hinckley-ufo-11145393

Triangle UFO Eyewitness Colin Saunders
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If U/tube link above disabled press...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHdA5Q-cDtU
I just watched it and its works...
Published on 22 Mar 2012
Colin Saunders, career aircraft industry technical draftsman, discusses with British
research group, his March, 1999 sighting of a triangular UFO near Warwickshire,
England. For more information, see report at website: DBARKERTV.COM

[mojo]

TY Cidersomerset in my video archive there are symbols on the surface of the craft that illuminated briefly, they remind me of the middle image you posted. Also in other video showing triangle and lights that change color from amber to red and a center pulsing light. These are two similar views plus the series of lights along the trailing edge in one of his photos shows another similar trait.

[findingneo]

Hi Mojo, the ufo phenomenon does have a strange relationship to human senses. Many folk who have had odd feelings at the time of seeing ufo phenomena will tell you that. They can act out of character to the way they know they would react if they saw one, and things just don't add up. Steven Greer has been talking about how the ET's consciously connect with humans, if humans take the time to be aware and consciously make the connection. That is what his CE5's is all about. You can even buy an app for $7 for your phone from Sirius Disclosure called "Contact Tool" to help you consciously connect with the phenomenon, and it works. I am not so sure these days if it is a good idea to actually do that though. The fact that he says there are no bad ET's and some other stuff, that just does not quite add up either. Anyway, the theme of there being a relationship between our senses, more accurately I think, between our consciousness and what we recognize as the ufo phenomenon (whatever that turns out to be), is not a new one. Greer has been talking about it for 25 years but it has been falling on deaf ears it seems. The majority of folk have been focused on the nuts and bolts, literally, and they are only now just starting to comprehend the relationship of ufo's and consciousness.

Contact tool link.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cseti.ETContactTool

Here is the link to the Contact Tool app developed by Dr Steven Greer. It includes useful detection electro magnometers and things like that, but it also has guided meditations to link your consciousness, with them. The way he teaches it is that you sort of remote view to contact them, but in fact it actually only requires that you have the intent to, and a bit of patience and meditating or quiet time thinking of them outdoors will do it. They then pop up every now and then, wherever you are, in the night sky even when not doing a CE5. They seem harmless. I don't know what the truth is though, regarding these ones.

[ghostrider]

in some circles et craft are said to be controlled by thought ... very interesting ... had my own sightings , felt connected , like on purpose ... fluidal energy is always going out of the human being ,like waves ... the pilots of these crafts must have tremendous thinking power ...

[findingneo]

Great video mojo, just listening to the rest of it.

I don't think it takes unusual thinking power most likely ghostrider on the behalf of the craft pilots, but perhaps more a typical way of being in whatever form they are in. More likely we all are not aware of what our consciousness, maybe all consciousness, just is, and capable of.

[ghostrider]

The consciousness is very powerful ... science says we have 5 senses, the ETs say we have 7 ... a sixth sense and the 7th is fluidal forces/energy ...

[amor]

Just as the secret government has managed to read minds with a computer, the computer can communicate with the person in question. It can also give commands to the subconscious mind, which may be what happens when an abduction takes place and the people compliantly obey their captors. This may also explain the shape shifting that people observe. It is not actually taking place, but the subconscious is told that is what it is seeing.

There is a video currently on you tube putting forth that the chemtrailing is all about preparing the earth's atmosphere for the underground reptilians to take over the earth, hence the global genocidal plan for humans. The MINDS at the top of the pyramid of power on earth would have to have been taken over by the reptiles. Those under them are only following orders! Should we all be sitting idly by and allowing mass murder????

[Valerie Villars]

Regarding contact, there are some good and some bad et's. The danger or problems wouldn't present themselves with the "good" ones per se, but there is some kind of a homing device and everyone who wants to can show up. This is where it can get really sticky really quick. I just don't think it's a good idea to consciously connect with something that you truly don't understand.

How do buzzards know when there is road kill? It's the same principle.

[findingneo]

Villival, the homing device is our consciousness. I don't do it now, just because I don't know exactly what it is. Anyone who says they have a "guide" and listening to it is taking the same risk. We are being interacted with whether we see it or not. I am aware of some of the negative ones, interacting with folk, but those folk only say they are guided by positive beings who are helping them live their high vibrational life's work, and they ignore the negative aspects as they get payoffs, such as increased psychic abilities and praise from their "guides". I can't help wondering, if the guides are so high vibrational, why they don't say something about the negatives? Good cop, bad cop it seems to be to me. I am still hoping for some genuine good guys, but I have not found them yet. Having said that, I have not had any negative experiences with the lights in the sky, however, I can see the risk, while hoping for the best. But like I said Villivial, not doing it now. I am aware of them though.They never come closer than lights in the sky (I specify no closer), and there is no other phenomenon related to the paranormal happening. I am quite sure they are not solid craft, but inter-dimensional. I have not had the rough trot that I think you have had. And I have eliminated as much as possible, influences over me from other people, and attachments to them emotionally. I have all but eliminated feeling any expectations of people, which reduces hurt tremendously. Basically, knowing these things are there, good or bad, has allowed me to educate myself (and continuing to educate myself) on the unseen. Realizing people behave the way they do due very much to unseen influences, has been quite liberating and I have managed to keep myself at a vibration that is not making me a target. Not saying I am high vibrational, but I am getting used to recognizing what feeds the unseen negs. That and not being so easily triggered, most of the time, knowing it is by design that relationships or just interacting with folk can be challenging.

I think things as basic as rescuing animals that even the rescue shelters were going to put down, and having them as family members, recognizing their worth as beings, and rescuing worms and bees and butterflies, slugs and snails from certain death,etc, that seem crazy to most people, has actually put me unintentionally, in a good place. I can feel it. Those humans are pretty stupid and violent, but some of them do things to help beings that are considered by humans as inferior, just because they can. It makes a difference on a soul level.

Add On: Sorry, above is off topic. It is not about triangles, so I will refrain any further from this sideline.

[findingneo]

Regarding the triangle ufo's mojo, are you specifically talking the nuts and bolts (perhaps with or without nuts and bolts) physical objects, or are you talking about the peculiar triangles that seems to be 3 lights in a triangle? With the latter, I have noticed (and it is of course, obvious), that the lights without an obvious physical element, are quite different, and do odd things, not just fly about.

[mojo]

Hi findingneo, great question and definitely still a mystery. I can't explain what I filmed to the degree that it's nut & bolts or the lights themselves. The video helped to pick out changes and I came up with hypothesis to help explain what was observed.

a few points from analysis that I consider in hypothesis
-lights change color amber to red or red to amber.
-polygon structure with light and dark holes change in illumination (perhaps a stealth technology surrounding object)
-organic and mechanical combination
-object moves through trees, suggest phase shift/dimensional properties

[findingneo]

That looks like another category I had not considered mojo. A triangle that "looks" physical, or perhaps "is" physical, but has the ability to pass through solid objects like it has dimensional capabilities. Ok, interesting, thanks mojo.

[mojo]

...please share your thoughts... look at this triangle filmed from last year and the second video below it which helped clues be seen thanks... At times it looks very solid in the video but other times it seems to morph or lights change location...;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vGIpZY5RyY

here's brief segment with clues uncovered..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08vcYOhZkBI

[findingneo]

You have a steady hand mojo. So your sighting was of something that appeared maybe to be like a craft and cloaked, or of something that arranged it's lights to appear like a craft. At no time does it look solid, and you could see through it to the stars. But it does move in a horizontal fashion like a terrestrial craft. It also looks like the often seen common triangle physical craft folk draw or talk about, with the lights at the 3 points of a triangle craft, with the big pulsing center light.

Amazing footage mojo. I can't work out any more than that, but I am sure your footage will be of great use to some people out there who have more pieces of the puzzle.

[Hazelfern]

So sorry that findeoneo could not hang. I found her to be very generous and sincere.

[pigsy2400]

I feel bad for replying to a thread that's 9 years old, so apologies.

The image that you posted up, its a real shame there is no point of reference in terms of size. As interesting as the image is (and I hate to be that guy), it could be a RC aircraft of the "F19" like this one, but painted black;
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W1o6BYTtXLA/hqdefault.jpg

The F19 and the TR3-B ( I don't believe the TR3B to exist personally) the F19 however;
F-19 is the designation for a hypothetical US fighter aircraft that has never been officially acknowledged, and has engendered much speculation that it might refer to a type of aircraft whose existence is still classified.
Source;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19

The F19 has long been rumored (lots of rumors) to have been the secret companion aircraft to the F117-a.

So without a clearer picture or some sort of size, point of references, there isnt much more my speciality in aircraft can assist with in regards to this.

:)
-D-

[ashva]

I have a particular experience I was wondering if any of you could comment on.

For many years now during meditation, back lit black triangles appear in my mind's eye. These are not artefacts of my imagination. I do not wish for them to appear, they appear spontaneously, fully formed and in sharper relief than I can manage if I try to replicate the image mentally.

Have any of you heard of this before? Does anyone have any idea what it could mean?

[Ernie Nemeth]

triangles are what tile 3D reality

could it have to do with that?

[RMF808]

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060145019A1/en

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Abstract

A spacecraft having a triangular hull with vertical electrostatic line charges on each corner that produce a horizontal electric field parallel to the sides of the hull. This field, interacting with a plane wave emitted by antennas on the side of the hull, generates a force per volume combining both lift and propulsion.

Who was John St Claire whose name is on this patent application? Officially it says it was abandoned but we all know how that stuff goes.

[jimbobule]

https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=184&part=1&gen=99

Good series, enjoy...

[Pris]

.
"Is anyone discussing our MAN MADE UFO, the TR-B3?" I tried to discuss it in another thread but it didn't go anywhere lol, so I'll repost here. Note: you might want to fix the spelling in the title to "TR-3B". :thumbsup:


My partner and I actually saw what was likely a "TR-3B" in 2005. Also, the video below is about Vimana and includes some information on the modern-day "TR-3B".


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I found this video that gives a better overview of the Vimana. It seems there may have been both purely physical Vimana and a kind of physical/interdimensional Vimana, the latter requiring the pilots to be, if I'm getting this right, spiritually in tune with the machinery as part of the key to flying them.


Hijacked Ancient Indian Aeronautics | Science of Ancient India | PDF visuals | English subtitles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2zJBYHaS7A




On a side note here, for those who may be interested, at the 4:40 minute mark of the video above, there just happened to show a diagram of a modern triangle ship, perhaps the so-called TR-3B. According to the video, that would be a modern day version of a Vimana. I actually saw something like that once very near Powder Point Road, Canadian Forces Maritime Experimental and Test Ranges, Nanoose Bay, BC, and I wasn't alone (Note: this base may have been controlled by the US Navy at the time of our sighting almost 20 years ago).

On December 17, 2005, my significant other and I were driving home on a quiet country road (Fairwinds Drive, east of Powder Point Road, heading back to Parksville) from an office Christmas party. (Note: we didn't drink any alcohol that night as we'd stopped drinking alcohol years before.) At 9:45 pm, we saw what appeared to be a slow-moving black triangular aircraft no bigger than a small jet (about the size of a Learjet) floating just above the treeline next to us (at the closest point, maybe 75 feet away), traveling across the sky from west to east. At first it looked like a string of green Christmas lights in the distance on a house up on a hill (the night sky was almost pitch black, couldn't see the sky, probably high cloud cover, turns out there was no hill lol). I figured it out first that it was actually slowly moving towards us in the sky just above the trees. It didn't look like anything recognizable so I got very excited. There was road construction on our side of the road and the shoulder had been removed so I brought the car literally to a halt in the middle of the road. There was no one else on the road except for us. I stayed in the car and kept it running just in case I had to move it should a vehicle come up from behind. My partner got out to get a better look at the UFO. He heard no sound coming from the aircraft. We both saw three white lights, one underneath each corner, and a blinking red light just back of the front light. There was also a yellowish light in the middle underneath. The side we saw had vertical vents running along its length that appeared to glow green from the inside. From the moment we first saw it, we watched this aircraft for maybe five minutes as it passed by us floating at a constant speed (maybe 15 km/h) and eventually passed out of visual range down the road we'd just come up.

My partner was inspired to build a model replica of this aircraft with working lights. There's some artistic license with the surface details because we only saw the outline shape mostly from the side and the lights. Here's a picture of the model:

Click to enlarge:
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Here's the location where I stopped the car, 18 years ago. Notice that there's still a line on the road where they'd removed the edge of the road. It appears they were in the process of adding a sidewalk.

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https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2747692,-124.1403615,3a,90y,319.55h,78.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNmEZMIlxpJCSBNaMu9QA6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu


This is the direction the aircraft came from, towards us on our left, parallel to the road.

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https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2747692,-124.1403615,3a,90y,222.05h,114.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNmEZMIlxpJCSBNaMu9QA6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu


And, this is a shot of the direction the aircraft took looking back behind us as it traveled eastward over the treeline from the right hand side. The whole time, it was moving in a straight line across the sky and eventually crossed over to the left where the road curves in the distance. The object then fell out of visual range. (Note: 18 years ago, all those evergreen trees were maybe half the height shown in these recent images so we had a perfect view of the aircraft the entire time. Also, we don't remember the newer homes down the road as they probably weren't even built yet.)

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https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2747692,-124.1403615,3a,90y,124.56h,113.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNmEZMIlxpJCSBNaMu9QA6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

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Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121573-Live-Hearing-on-Unidentified-Anomalous-Phenomena-26-July-2023&p=1569846&viewfull=1#post1569846

[Vangelo]

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060145019A1/en

51758

Abstract

A spacecraft having a triangular hull with vertical electrostatic line charges on each corner that produce a horizontal electric field parallel to the sides of the hull. This field, interacting with a plane wave emitted by antennas on the side of the hull, generates a force per volume combining both lift and propulsion.

Who was John St Claire whose name is on this patent application? Officially it says it was abandoned but we all know how that stuff goes.

I doubt this is the real patent application. The reason I say that is because patent applications make the technology public i.e. it is no longer a secret. I have a couple of patents and the first question the patent attorney asked was whether or not we wanted to keep the technology secret. If we did then he said we should not file the patent.

The first thing that happens before the patent office actually determines if it is going to grant the application, is government 'technology' agencies review all patent applications to determine if they want to keep the tech hidden (i.e. secret). Once it passes that test it then gets published as an application and everyone in the world can see it. Which means your competitor can now figure out what you are doing and try to replicate it without violating the patent. By the way, we were visited by someone from the US department of defense (I think DARPA) who wanted to understand one of our patents better. He was non-threatening, geeky kind of guy who understood our technology. He could only give us minimal information about who he was, why he was asking his questions, and what his actual interests were.

[Bill Ryan]

Just as an answer to the question, if one searches in Avalon thread titles for Triangle, Triangles, or Triangular, you'll see dozens of UFO-related threads. Unfortunately, the search term TR-3B is too short for the Avalon search algorithm to use, but I'm pretty sure we have threads with that in the title as well.

:thumbsup:

[Sunny-side-up]

I think that's just about the only shape craft I haven't seen :(

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Just as an answer to the question, if one searches in Avalon thread titles for Triangle, Triangles, or Triangular, you'll see dozens of UFO-related threads. Unfortunately, the search term TR-3B is too short for the Avalon search algorithm to use, but I'm pretty sure we have threads with that in the title as well.

:thumbsup:

Actually if you type in just TR3B it works okay (returning 9 pages of results). It's the '-' (dash) that throws it, it won't pick those up.

[abc]

I remember seeing that in late 2017 when taking a drive in Nebraska a few hours outside Lincoln. Giant triangular shape object that seemed to just hover 20 feet above the road. Almost crashed my car into a tree looking at it. About 10 seconds after I saw it there was a blinding white light and it was gone without a trace. Can't get it out of my mind since...

[ExomatrixTV]

Long time ago (20 years ago!) I interviewed The Designer of the "TR-3B Flight Simulator" that was based upon Edgar Rothschild Fouché (https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rapture-Rothschild-Fouche-Steiger/dp/1880090503) research!

FS2002 TR-3B Panel.cfg Update for use with TR3BUFO.ZIP (https://www.fs2000.org/2003/06/11/fs2002-tr-3b-panel-cfg-update/). There are three simicons extra in this panel.cfg for the map, ATC and kneeboard, all to be accessed from inside the cockpit ... All the rest is the same ... by Dutch 🇳🇱 fellow "conspiracy researcher" George Philip Birney (https://www.amazon.com/stores/George-Philip-Birney/author/B07GSRH64Z) who I interviewed and had intensive phone contact with in the early 2000s ... He was the owner of AlienUfoSecret.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20020802001605/http://www.alienufosecret.com) that inspired me to buy AlienUfoSecret.eu (https://web.archive.org/web/20080320041459/http://www.alienufosecret.eu/forum/)

George Philip Birney (https://www.amazon.com/stores/George-Philip-Birney/author/B07GSRH64Z) DSc, PhD, MSc, MBA Professor emeritus of information management and systems design. Former chairman of Mensa. Now working as a book writer and astrology & dianetics counsellor at The Hague in The Netherlands, Holland EU. My hobbies include experimental electronic synthesizer music production, and short range landscape photography @ national geographic.

Discussing among others:

A-12 Avenger
Area-51
Aurora
Avro
CI-26 ?
Groom , Ranch , Watertown
Gryphon
Hiller
KH-12 Key Hole
Nellis
Norjen TR
Nova
SR-75 Penetrator (1)
SR-75 Penetrator (2)
Tacit Blue Stealth
TR-3A Manta Stryker
TR-3A Manta THAP
TR-3B Flying Triangle
TR-3B Locust Astra
XB-70 Valkyrie (1)
XB-70 Valkyrie (2) Zecret Xplane nAtion
FS2002 TR-3B Panel.cfg Update

flight2000it (https://www.fs2000.org/author/flight2000it/)

https://i0.wp.com/www.fs2000.org/imgs/TN_240303_236.JPG?w=800&ssl=1


FS2002 TR-3B Panel.cfg Update for use with TR3BUFO.ZIP. There are three simicons extra in this panel.cfg for the map, ATC and kneeboard, all to be accessed from inside the cockpit. All the rest is the same. By George Philip Birney. 5 Kb



source (https://www.fs2000.org/2003/06/11/fs2002-tr-3b-panel-cfg-update/)

George Philip Birney (https://www.amazon.com/stores/George-Philip-Birney/author/B07GSRH64Z) told me he had intensive contact with: Edgar Rothschild Fouche (https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rapture-Rothschild-Fouche-Steiger/dp/1880090503)


and I quote him:

"Alien Rapture The Chosen" The TR-3B is not Science Fiction


https://web.archive.org/web/20040820205636im_/http://www.startfinish.biz/wise/pictures/tr3b-astra-locust-prototype.jpg (https://web.archive.org/web/20040820205636/http://www.galdepress.com/bkdetails-alienrapture.html)

A book filled with the government's most classified secrets and documents, fantastic scientific technological breakthroughs, and a story written about one individual's saga to regain his destiny against all odds. The author has worked Black, Special, and Secret Programs in Top Military Headquarters' positions and as a Civilian Defense Contractor. A must read.

This is the book that lays bare all the facts and secrets about The secret government dealings with alien intelligence

Dreamland and Area 51 -- secret military installations
The real alien autopsy report
The UFO crash at Roswell
Military use of extraterrestrial technology

Although presented as fiction, the episodes described in this book are based on actual events.

ISBN 1­880090­50­3 (https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rapture-Rothschild-Fouche-Steiger/dp/1880090503), 6 x 9, 336 pgs. unquote.
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[mojo]

It would be great to see those newsletters again Bill. Here in Oregon this long shaped triangle craft was observed numerous times.

KoKf6khWTiA

[Pris]

.

I think that's just about the only shape craft I haven't seen :(


Why would that make you sad? Some people never see anything lol. And, depending on the technology and how close you are (is it safe), and who may be operating it and for what purpose (black ops etc.), you might be better off to steer clear of them. Just sayin'. :thumb:

[Pris]

.

It would be great to see those newsletters again Bill. Here in Oregon this long shaped triangle craft was observed numerous times.

KoKf6khWTiA


I was thinking how some of these sightings may be explained by drones flying in formation...

[ExomatrixTV]

Apparent Public Patents for an AntiGravity 'Spacecraft' - that looks like the TR-3B (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97760-Apparent-public-patents-for-an-antigravity-spacecraft-that-looks-like-the-TR-3B)

pKnDQ2qDuwk

09-15-2014 Edgar Fouche - Validated - The Truth, quote:

"I have 900 military documents from my career with the USAF and other DoD agencies and DoD contractors. I have showed about 200 of them over and over again.

I've encouraged others, all others, to fill a FOIA on my records since the 90s.

The very few records David Hilton chose to post & show include most of my major medals I received in the military. Look each one up. I have three 'Meritorious Service' medals, two 'Commendation Medals' a 'Presidential Unit Citation', and two different medals showing my Vietnam Service (in country) one which is a 'Gallantry Cross' with a palm device (heroism) awarded twice. Once in 1969 and the other in 1971. You don't get these medals, for doing nothing. However others have suggested otherwise. Most of my medals are what the top 1% receive. Any General, full bird Colonel, or Chief Master Sergeant would be thrilled to have earned my medals.

Now David Hilton, a paid government troll by my estimation, should post the other 20 or so documents or more, he received from my 20+ years service. He's demeaned me, slandered me and libeled me. There are three documents that David Hilton posted that show the same and worse artifacts as my Det. 3, Edwards AFB documents when I was assigned to Area 51 while stationed at Nellis AFB in Nevada. So is he going to say now, oh look the DoD or government has Photo-shopped my documents. ha.... wake up friends!

I have two cytologists and networking analysts working on the virus that David Hilton sent me and Dan Benkert. We have the proof. I have sent most of my information to at least two of the senior staff of this forum.

I haven't responded to these new attacks, because it is ridiculous and absurd. I tracked David Hilton's new forum and three of his members are David himself, spoofing you. The same ones are on The Outpost Forum. David Hilton has his own SERVER and can generate as many IP addresses as he wants.

As a side note I've posted the full unrestricted long version of "Alien Rapture" on Amazon. Our publisher originally deleted or edited out 40% of the book. The long version was the best favored version by myself, my coauthor Brad Steiger and the editors (including my wife). Our Publisher hasn't paid us royalties in years. And yes it was only 25 cents per copy per $18 dollar book. Her short and stolen ebook is $9.00. My FULL LONG Unabridged Uncut Version if 'Alien Rapture' is only $4.50. I'm not making a dime off of this new restored version.

In 'Alien Rapture' the New Long Version, tells the story of Joe Green, the protagonist (hero), or in this case my personal stories about my secret service and all the characters are based on true people. The corrupt government and the evil personalities and the secret technologies are my interpretation of what I saw and witnessed. The ALIENS are just part of a fictional story and I've never spoke of any knowledge of Aliens or UFOs outside if my book 'Alien Rapture.' Ed Fouche

Dan Benkert discovered that Bob Silverstein and Larry Silverstein (owner of the 9/11 buildings) were cousins. Bob Silverstein was the one who changed the original title of my book from"The Abductors" to "Alien Rapture - The Chosen." My agent Bob Silverstien was considered the Golden Boy of publishing as an agent from the 70s to the 90s. The words 'Rapture' and 'Chosen' caused us to have thousands of Christians attack my book. Bob Silverstein also suggested I use the middle name "Rothschild." as a nom de plum 'pen name.'

So several of my friends, including Dan Benkert, Robert, Cade, Bob, Tom and others have also done the research and have connected the 9/11 evil conspirator Larry Silverstein to 'Bob Silverstein' my book agent. I might have been one of the most duped and controlled 'discloser' in history. But I always told the truth.

But that begs the question, why are these government trolls and disinformation agents trying to discredit and attack me after all these years since the 1990S?

Edgar Fouché"

unquote


source (https://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1801-Edgar-Fouche-Military-Records-Released&p=35436&viewfull=1#post35436)

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Apparent Public Patents for an AntiGravity 'Spacecraft' - that looks like the TR-3B (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97760-Apparent-public-patents-for-an-antigravity-spacecraft-that-looks-like-the-TR-3B)
Richplanet TV - 21/06/14.. Edgar Fouche & US Secret Space Fleet with resarcher Andrew Johnson Avalon member (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72625-Richplanet-TV-21-06-14..-Edgar-Fouche-US-Secret-Space-Fleet-with-resarcher-Andrew-Johnson-Avalon-member)

[Sunny-side-up]

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It would be great to see those newsletters again Bill. Here in Oregon this long shaped triangle craft was observed numerous times.

KoKf6khWTiA


I was thinking how some of these sightings may be explained by drones flying in formation...

Yes Pris probably safe to keep clear of the TR3B Human ones. Only sad (Not quite sad) because it's one I'm not conscious of seeing, so not in the right state of mind to see, (missing a wavelength as it where) :sun:

[RMF808]

Mahalo (thank you) Bill. Would you like me to delete my post?

[Pris]

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Mahalo (thank you) Bill. Would you like me to delete my post?


Which post? Do you mean the entire thread? ;D IF there was a problem with your post(?), I'm certain you'd find out pretty quick. I checked, there are a couple of old threads with TR-3B in the title we could add to, but starting this new thread seems like a better idea.

[Pris]

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It would be great to see those newsletters again Bill. Here in Oregon this long shaped triangle craft was observed numerous times.

KoKf6khWTiA


I was thinking how some of these sightings may be explained by drones flying in formation...

Yes Pris probably safe to keep clear of the TR3B Human ones. Only sad (Not quite sad) because it's one I'm not conscious of seeing, so not in the right state of mind to see, (missing a wavelength as it where) :sun:


Haha so we should only steer clear of the "human" ones? I'd think IF there were "non-human" ones, I'd have just as big a concern over those. ;D As far as I remember, there was no need to be in any particular "wavelength" to see the TR-3B I saw with my partner. It was as physically real as real can be. And, it helped to be near a certain experimental naval base in December of 2005.

[ExomatrixTV]

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You Can Now Fly The USAF Ultra Top Secret TR-3B! (https://rense.com/general38/ulrta.htm)
TR3BUFO.ZIP (https://www.fs2000.org/2003/06/11/fs2002-tr-3b-panel-cfg-update/) file needed for Flight Simulator already shared here!

[amor]

I thought I had already posted my adventure with the TR3B seen from the bottom of my driveway as I put out the garbage pickup for the next morning. At first, I thought it was a bright star as the sky was overcast. Taking a more careful look, I clearly spotted the Triangle lightings. Sometime before that, I had spotted the triangle moving slowly Eastward away from our neighborhood which is fairly large.

The question arose in my mind, why is it right over the end of my driveway? Recently, a close relative of mine died by smoking himself to death. His son sent me a good secondhand car from across the country. On awakening one morning, I heard a nice matter-of-fact young male voice say, voice-to-skull technology, the car would cost me $2100 by the time I finished doing things to get it on the road. I was surprised, but realized what was happening immediately as I was worried about my monthly budget with this new expense; however, having received this type of transmission in the past, I put two and two together, realizing that thought-reading has been a DARPA technology at least since the 1950's. There may be military installations around here to explain why it is overhead, but it is not the first communication of its kind I have had.

In addition to the above, shortly after my relative died, while I was at the computer, I received a vision in my mind which was suspended in mid-air, of my relative sitting at a table and looking in my direction. He was wearing a collar and tie topped by a navy- blue suit jacket and was looking in my direction and looking about 20 years old. In life, he was dressed like a slob and looked older. I have to check to discover whether he was buried in a navy-blue suit. My immediate thought was, he has come to tell me that he is still alive, on the other side, and was doing so through TV technology which they had there. Very nice of him and encouraging to his family when I share it with them. Anyone monitoring my thought life from above is in for a harrowing time. Vengeance is mine is a humorous thought.

[ExomatrixTV]

For the record: "Man made UFOs" do not exist ... Why (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121874-Is-anyone-discussing-our-MAN-MADE-UFO-the-TR-3B&p=1576852&viewfull=1#post1576852)?

... because (secret or advanced) man made technology posing and/or perceived as a "assumed UFO(s)" do exist ... The problem is: that ANYTHING that is a legit "UFO" can only have that label AFTER ruling out all earthly known anomalies being debunked or explained, thus you have to EARN the label: "U.F.O." (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121874-Is-anyone-discussing-our-MAN-MADE-UFO-the-TR-3B&p=1576852&viewfull=1#post1576852) after the thorough honest unbiased qualified investigations.


A "UFO Report" (Reporting UFO) is not the same as being a Real UFO after the "reporting" of it is investigated and checked on multiple levels.

Reporting a (possible) crime by ANYONE is not the same as knowing a real crime-evidence AFTER it is verified/checked by honest (not corrupt) qualified investigators ... similar logic ... and I can give you much more examples how language is used/misused to frame things in a certain way jumping to conclusions without having real merit.


This issue is as old as mainstream media exists, and they deliberately want to keep you and the masses dumb about it ... also known as: "perception wars" controlling and pushing the tunnel-vision narratives.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

UFO investigator since 1990 (33 years) gave among others 80+ UFO Lectures in 5 countries, co-organizer of the 1st Big International UFO Conference in Amsterdam November 20th, 1992 (sold out!) was also speaker at that conference. Written many UFO articles between 2000 & 2009 - Interviewed many top UFO researchers/authors live on my "Untold Mysteries" & "Exposure" Radio Shows between 1991 & 2009 - Been 22+ times on Dutch 🇳🇱 National TV discussing UFO research. I was also one of the first Dutch "UFO Hotline" receiving many national UFO reports (phone calls) between 1992 and 1996.

[RMF808]

I thought I had already posted my adventure with the TR3B seen from the bottom of my driveway as I put out the garbage pickup for the next morning. At first, I thought it was a bright star as the sky was overcast. Taking a more careful look, I clearly spotted the Triangle lightings. Sometime before that, I had spotted the triangle moving slowly Eastward away from our neighborhood which is fairly large.

The question arose in my mind, why is it right over the end of my driveway? Recently, a close relative of mine died by smoking himself to death. His son sent me a good secondhand car from across the country. On awakening one morning, I heard a nice matter-of-fact young male voice say, voice-to-skull technology, the car would cost me $2100 by the time I finished doing things to get it on the road. I was surprised, but realized what was happening immediately as I was worried about my monthly budget with this new expense; however, having received this type of transmission in the past, I put two and two together, realizing that thought-reading has been a DARPA technology at least since the 1950's. There may be military installations around here to explain why it is overhead, but it is not the first communication of its kind I have had.

In addition to the above, shortly after my relative died, while I was at the computer, I received a vision in my mind which was suspended in mid-air, of my relative sitting at a table and looking in my direction. He was wearing a collar and tie topped by a navy- blue suit jacket and was looking in my direction and looking about 20 years old. In life, he was dressed like a slob and looked older. I have to check to discover whether he was buried in a navy-blue suit. My immediate thought was, he has come to tell me that he is still alive, on the other side, and was doing so through TV technology which they had there. Very nice of him and encouraging to his family when I share it with them. Anyone monitoring my thought life from above is in for a harrowing time. Vengeance is mine is a humorous thought.

That is some heavy stuff! Thanks for sharing

[Pris]

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For the record: "Man made UFOs" do not exist ... Why?

... because (secret or advanced) man made technology posing and/or perceived as a "assumed UFO(s)" do exist ... The problem is: that ANYTHING that is a legit "UFO" can only have that label AFTER ruling out all earthly known anomalies being debunked or explained, thus you have to EARN the label: "U.F.O." after the thorough honest unbiased qualified investigations.


Oh, really? And, we're not allowed to question your so-called "thorough honest unbiased qualified investigations"? All man-made and/or earthly known anomalies as possibilities are "officially" ruled out? Who, exactly, decides that? No room for doubt afterwards? Now, that's funny, John.

[Denise/Dizi]

There is another version of the TR3B as well.. (Probably many actually), but the one I am referring to in the post, is smaller.. And shaped like a flat rectangle. It has the same sides that resemble a harmonica when you see them, and it rotates (Rather quickly too!) as it propels itself...

After "Throwing it out there"... (The information for having seen one of these things)... Hoping someone "In the know" would bite on the topic, and talk about it? All that was ever said was... "There was regret making that thing"...

I can only assume, that due to its nature, (zipping over battlefields at head level...For recon purposes) That there have been some recovered, and more than likely being recreated by forces that they would not want to "Have that technology"... I was never given a name for the drone, but I have seen one... I have also seen a rotating ball which has a pole hanging from the bottom, and possibly one out to the side (It was dark, but it looked like it had a side arm as well)... and the ball spins... I am assuming the poles off of it, keep it orientated.. I had to ask my aunt if she was seeing what I was seeing, when I saw THAT one, as it blew my mind... We were camping at a local lake, and I was surprised to find this thing just hanging in thin air above us... She saw it too... I wasn't imagining it...

I would LOVE to take a tour and see everything that has been built as a result of the reverse engineering of the craft they dug up and were "Gifted"...

It wasn't light outside, so we could just see the ball, and red lights on the poles attached to it... But I couldn't draw it if I had to, as I couldn't make out any other details in the dark... Had I not see the red light, I never would have noticed it...

The skies are FULL of different drones, craft, and technologies that we could barely imagine these days..

[ExomatrixTV]

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For the record: "Man made UFOs" do not exist ... Why?

... because (secret or advanced) man made technology posing and/or perceived as a "assumed UFO(s)" do exist ... The problem is: that ANYTHING that is a legit "UFO" can only have that label AFTER ruling out all earthly known anomalies being debunked or explained, thus you have to EARN the label: "U.F.O." after the thorough honest unbiased qualified investigations.

Oh, really? And, we're not allowed to question your so-called "thorough honest unbiased qualified investigations"? All man-made and/or earthly known anomalies as possibilities are "officially" ruled out? Who, exactly, decides that? No room for doubt afterwards? Now, that's funny, John.

I was speaking if it is all done without corrupted individuals without deceptive tactics without pushing political agenda's etc. etc. then we STILL are allowed to question anyone but the word UFO means "unidentified" and REPORTING an "unidentified" is NOT the same as a real unidentified from a holistic approach ... Not from people who jump to conclusions superfast as it FITS a certain agenda or limited point of view like: beliefs, opinions, estimations, guessing etc. etc.

Only a small percentage of the reports are considered genuine UFOs and in due time ... part of them are losing the label "UFO" too AFTER new insights new data new information comes to surface ... this has always been the case ... But the mass brainwashing media LOVES to use the term "UFO" without real proper research and laugh about it later when it is debunked over and over again ... statements like: "UFO turns out to be Venus" or "UFO turns out to be Weather Balloon" deliberately not using the word "A report turns out to be: not a UFO" >>> the FRAMING of the term is why most people do not care about (real) UFOs anymore ... The PSYOP worked! ... That is why I say what I just explained!


The "U" stands not only for "unidentified" but also "unexplained" .... the moment it is identified or explained in an honest way that is 100% legit it loses the "U" in the word U.F.O.

Imagine if all the mass media decided to FOCUS only on the genuine, solid UFO cases AFTER those cases EARNED that label ... You would have a complete different society based up on wanting to find out what they are, and a global quest for the truth will show us much more interesting revelations than focussing on shïtty reports that will be debunked most of the time later on!


Sure, not all "debunking" are correct as they are done by dishonest people! ... I call them "pseudo skeptics (https://www.ufoskeptic.org/truzzi/)" so OF COURSE we are always allowed to question everything all the time and for good reasons! ... That will never stop!

Pseudoskepticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoskepticism) and bad reports of allegedly "UFOs" work hand in hand, both serving the PsyOp even if they do not realize it.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[RMF808]

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For the record: "Man made UFOs" do not exist ... Why?

... because (secret or advanced) man made technology posing and/or perceived as a "assumed UFO(s)" do exist ... The problem is: that ANYTHING that is a legit "UFO" can only have that label AFTER ruling out all earthly known anomalies being debunked or explained, thus you have to EARN the label: "U.F.O." after the thorough honest unbiased qualified investigations.

Oh, really? And, we're not allowed to question your so-called "thorough honest unbiased qualified investigations"? All man-made and/or earthly known anomalies as possibilities are "officially" ruled out? Who, exactly, decides that? No room for doubt afterwards? Now, that's funny, John.

I was speaking if it is all done without corrupted individuals without deceptive tactics without pushing political agenda's etc. etc. then we STILL are allowed to question anyone but the word UFO means "unidentified" and REPORTING an "unidentified" is NOT the same as a real unidentified from a holistic approach ... Not from people who jump to conclusions superfast as it FITS a certain agenda or limited point of view like: beliefs, opinions, estimations, guessing etc. etc.

Only a small percentage of the reports are considered genuine UFOs and in due time ... part of them are losing the label "UFO" too AFTER new insights new data new information comes to surface ... this has always been the case ... But the mass brainwashing media LOVES to use the term "UFO" without real proper research and laugh about it later when it is debunked over and over again ... statements like: "UFO turns out to be Venus" or "UFO turns out to be Weather Balloon" deliberately not using the word "A report turns out to be: not a UFO" >>> the FRAMING of the term is why most people do not care about (real) UFOs anymore ... The PSYOP worked! ... That is why I say what I just explained!


The "U" stands not only for "unidentified" but also "unexplained" .... the moment it is identified or explained in an honest way that is 100% legit it loses the "U" in the word U.F.O.

Imagine if all the mass media decided to FOCUS only on the genuine, solid UFO cases AFTER those cases EARNED that label ... You would have a complete different society based up on wanting to find out what they are, and a global quest for the truth will show us much more interesting revelations than focussing on shïtty reports that will be debunked most of the time later on!


Sure, not all "debunking" are correct as they are done by dishonest people! ... I call them "pseudo skeptics (https://www.ufoskeptic.org/truzzi/)" so OF COURSE we are always allowed to question everything all the time and for good reasons! ... That will never stop!

Pseudoskepticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoskepticism) and bad reports of allegedly "UFOs" work hand in hand, both serving the PsyOp even if they do not realize it.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

Mahalo (thank you) for the clarification John. I feel as if Project Avalon is a very accepting place overall but we as humans often get stuck on words. We are all climbing the same mountain using different paths. Speaking our truth means that we speak of our path which nobody else has taken. I honor your path but I also honor those to disagree. Though, they are regularly in a place where they can’t understand that you have not taken their path. I understand it but try not to use that perspective anymore.

Disagreement or discord just allows us to further explain our paths.

We are all just walking each other home.

[Pris]

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Mahalo (thank you) for the clarification John. I feel as if Project Avalon is a very accepting place overall but we as humans often get stuck on words. We are all climbing the same mountain using different paths. Speaking our truth means that we speak of our path which nobody else has taken. I honor your path but I also honor those to disagree. Though, they are regularly in a place where they can’t understand that you have not taken their path. I understand it but try not to use that perspective anymore.

Disagreement or discord just allows us to further explain our paths.

We are all just walking each other home.


Thought I'd respond to this. :) You're right, we humans often do get stuck on words and you make an interesting point. At the same time, I've noticed that the older I get, the more... careful I am with words. Spellings, for example, are spells after all. And, having good communication skills can take decades... it's so complex. Take the word "understand". I'll gladly stand with someone, but never under them lol!

Back to the TR-3B... The one I saw with my partner back in 2005 (very likely a TR-3B), at the time, we definitely thought it was man-made but we also considered it to be reverse-engineered from, possibly, ET technology. There's a reason for that. Our culture has inundated us with movies and TV shows about ETs and UFOs. That was when we were still quite influenced from years of watching shows like The X-Files. We didn't know what predictive programming was yet. And, we didn't know how easily that can skew one's interpretation of reality -- especially when you're exposed to the programming for decades -- into some kind of perceived hyperreality. 5th generation warfare [enter Hollywood and Hollywood magic] can and has been used against the population to psychologically steer them down a certain path. If you've got half the population believing in "aliens", it's quite easy to fake an alien invasion, for example, to scare the population. A scared population is so easy to conquer... It's very difficult to think rationally when a person is frightened (that's why the "man-made climate change" hoax works so well). Keep the population in constant fear (and social guilt)... that's been the globalists M O.

Back to my point about the TR-3B. These days, my partner and I think the technology is likely entirely man-made (including all "advanced technologies" and black ops, whatever they may be [the "alien" angle being the coverup] and since that explains it all rather simply, we go with that until proven otherwise.

[Valknut3301]

Last fall I saw what was possibly the TR-B3, or some variant, flying out of Beale Air Force base in California on three different occasions, each time with a military escort. They were flying fairly low, slow and towards the east north-east. Each sighting was around the same time, between eight and nine pm.

I thought it was very strange, given the time and clear visibility of the craft. They were right out in the open, and the triangular formation of unblinking, orange lights were unlike any aircraft, civilian or military, I've ever seen. It definitely didn't conform to regulations.

I reported my sightings to NUFORC, but they never contacted me or followed up. You'd think they would be interested in back engineered U.F.O tech flying out of an active air force base on a regular basis. Go figure.

[Pris]

Last fall I saw what was possibly the TR-B3, or some variant, flying out of Beale Air Force base in California on three different occasions, each time with a military escort. They were flying fairly low, slow and towards the east north-east. Each sighting was around the same time, between eight and nine pm.

I thought it was very strange, given the time and clear visibility of the craft. They were right out in the open, and the triangular formation of unblinking, orange lights were unlike any aircraft, civilian or military, I've ever seen. It definitely didn't conform to regulations.

I reported my sightings to NUFORC, but they never contacted me or followed up. You'd think they would be interested in back engineered U.F.O tech flying out of an active air force base on a regular basis. Go figure.


Interesting! But, how do you know it was back engineered? Back engineered from what?

[Vicus]

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[Bill Ryan]

In this new video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mISoNBZxrhM), Michael Schratt continues his in-depth report about Edgar Fouché and the TR-3B. (This is Part 2. Part 1 is here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAyThzaERvQ))

From 41:50—1:01:06 Michael shows on screen and reads out a whole series of written questions that he posed to Fouché, together with Fouché's answers. This was all so detailed and interesting that I OCRed the entire thing and the whole correspondence is reproduced below in full.

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TR-3B Questions for Edgar Fouché

1. Who is the primary contractor for the TR-3B?
Lockheed, Boeing, Northrup, Teledyne Ryan, managed by NRO, NSA, and CIA.
There were a number of major defense contractors involved to keep different parts of the R&D compartmentalized.

2. What company was responsible for building the propulsion system (MFD) on the TR-3B?
(not answered)

3. What was the date of the first flight of the prototype of the TR-3B?
They built a lot of DIFFERENT prototypes from the early 70s on. I believe the first gravity warping vehicle, i.e. Triangle was flown in the early 70s.

4. How many different sizes of the TR-3B were built?
Approximately 250 feet (prototype) and three were flying before 1994. The operational model was supposed to be 600 feet. Never saw a large production model. Only saw them over Edwards AFB - AFFTC, and Nevada.

5. What military facility are these craft be kept?
Other than Groom, it's probably kept under water, or in the Antarctic. Don’t know.

6. What is the overall mission of the TR-3B?
Logistics support and transportation for the secret space command. If used on a planet, moon, or large outpost, you would have a ready-made transportable space station.

7. Does the TR-3B carry any weapons system on-board?
I have no knowledge of its weapons systems. But the three letter agencies and the military love adding weapons.

8. How many crew-members are on-board during a typical mission?
I believe it was a minimum of four for the prototype.

9. Please explain how the Magnetic Field Disrupter works?
See below.

10. How is the craft capable of making 40G turns, and abrupt stops?
Ask Warren.

11. What type pilots fly the TR-3B? (Air Force or contractor)
Both, but the military pilots are Navy and USAF and graduates of their own Test Pilot School, like at AFFTC - Edwards AFB.
Many astronauts were the top test pilots in our military. The top 1% for sure.

12. What type of navigation system is used on the TR-3B?
Advanced in atmosphere nav systems, celestial & star system navigation systems, C3 systems.
Of course it would have double or triple communications, navigation, IR, ILS/Tacan, radar, and (ECM) Electronics Communications Measures, and ECCM systems.

13. What type of flight control system is used on the TR-3B?
Variable vectored intake and thrusters on the edges, and advanced multimode propulsion engines on each tip of the triangle.

14. What is the power source of the craft?
Two nuclear reactors.

15. What materials are used to build the TR-3B?
Advanced composites, metamaterials, and titanium.

16. How may total TR-3Bs were built?
Prototype, at least 3. Don't know about the Operational model or the many variations that have come since.

17.Was the TR-3B the same craft that was seen over Belgium in 1989, and Southern Illinois in 2000?
I believe it was the final prototype, or perhaps and earlier R&D - FOT&E model.

18. What is the total cost per each TR-3B?
In 1990 dollars it was about 1 Billion dollars.
I assume the operational model would be three or four times that.

19. Does the TR-3B have a payload bay?
Never noticed one. But obviously they have to have different egress and ingress points.

20. Has the TR-3B been flown outside of our solar system?
Wouldn't even venture a guess. Why not?

21. How is the TR-3B capable of exceeding the speed of sound without causing a sonic boom?
I believe it's the ionic electrical discharge and warping of gravity that allows that.

22. Please describe what the early prototype looked like when you first saw it in a military hangar? What was the date when you first saw the TR-3B?
1975 high in the atmosphere at night at Edwards AFB.
1976 within the southern part of the Nellis Range.
Late 70s at Groom AB.
The schematic you have and my 3d triangle drawings are fairly accurate.
I was told that the operational model had different engines on the tips, that they had eliminated the rotatable crew compartment.

23. What is the exterior color of the craft?
It has a stealth electro chromatic coating that can change its color and electronic signature.

24. Please describe the landing gear on the TR-3B?
The only one I saw on the ground used 3 tripods with T pads.
No wheels.

25. What government agency is responsible for operating the TR-3B?
NRO, NSA, CIA.

26. Was Kelly Johnson the Sr. Project design for the TR-3B?
No, it would have been Ben Rich.

27. Does the TR-3B emit any low frequency electrical “humming” noises during operation?
When we were bike riding in the high desert of the Nellis range, it made a very slight magnetic hum. It also made the hair on our bodies stand up.
It was right over our heads, and was pretty much silent.

28. Are there any lights on the TR-3B?
Yes, each tip of the Triangle. The MFD on the prototype gave out a large diffused light in the bottom center of it.

29. Please describe how the multi-mode rockets operates, and who the prime contractor was for the three rockets on the bottom of the craft?
See below.

30. Does the craft incorporate any type of “visual stealth” technology which wide hide it from view?
Most likely since the electro chromatic coating can change color.
Of course, we have developed several types of Invisibility tech since the Operational model.
The one was saw high up in the atmosphere after dark got bigger and bigger as it descended. Also, the stars were blocked out above the triangle.


How does the Magnetic Field Disruptor Work?

Sandia and Livermore laboratories developed the reverse engineered MFD technology. The government will go to any lengths to protect this technology. The plasma, mercury based, is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, by 89 percent. Do not misunderstand. This is not antigravity. Anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth’s gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule, avionics, MFD systems, fuels, crew environmental systems, and the nuclear reactor, are reduced by 89%. This causes the effect of making the vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft yet constructed — except, of course, those UFOs we did not build.


The Propulsion System

The TR-38s propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above 120,000 feet — then God knows how fast it can go! The 3 multimode rocket engines mounted under each comer of the craft use hydrogen or methane and oxygen as a propellant. In a liquid oxygen/hydrogen rocket system, 85% of the propellant mass is oxygen. The nuclear thermal rocket engine uses a hydrogen propellant, augmented with oxygen for additional thrust. The reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic nozzle, so that the hydrogen bums concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner. The multimode propulsion system can; operate in the atmosphere, with thrust provided by the nuclear reactor, in the upper atmosphere, with hydrogen propulsion, and in orbit, with the combined hydrogen/oxygen propulsion.


Additional comments by Edgar Fouché

"All those people speculating about how this is “impossible” because of the use of nuclear power are missing the claim that nuclear power is not used for thrust, but for modifying the “mass” of the vehicle, that is assuming the claim is true. So the nuclear power source is only used to supply electricity, by a turbine or thermionic generation, or both, which is then used to electrically accelerate a plasma to relativistic speeds. In principle everything suggested is plausible, although no known materials would allow actually building a torroidal enclosure strong enough to withstand the forces involved before breaking apart... notice I said “Known” materials. Who knows what secret/classified materials may exist, and what other missing pieces of the puzzle there could be.”


This covers the period while I was stationed at Nellis AFB from 1976 until late 1979.

In August of 1979 I was still on temporary duty (TDY) under orders from Detachment 3 of Edwards AFB. This was pretty much the whole summer.

The assignment location was Groom AB, part of Area 51. TDY personnel didn't have the privileges of Permanent Party assigned personnel.

I was always under observation and/or under guard. Even when I had to use the latrine. And there were NO doors on the toilets.

I worked on several systems related to satellite communications and crypto during that summer.

This is detailed during my presentation to the IUFOC in 1998 when I first disclosed publicly about my 20+ year career in the USAF.

I always went up on a darkened out Blue USAF Bus from Nellis AFB in the early morning and came back in the late evening or after dark.

In addition to working at Groom AB that summer I was also at a facility that was called Defense Advanced Research Center (DARC) which was an underground facility. It is more classified than Groom Air Base.

It was either southeast or south of Groom AB and it WAS NOT Papoose dry lake bed. Which has, by the way, never had any facilities on it, parking lots, lights, etc., as described by Lazar. The real S-4 is part of the Tonopah facilities.

One evening as it was getting dark I was at the Engineering, Test, Avionics building which I believe was called Building 9. However, as we came out the back side of the building our Bus was waiting outside for us.

The TDY personnel had to wear darkened out black goggles so we wouldn't see things we weren't supposed to. I had a habit of slightly pulling my goggles down a bit so I could peer out and see above the goggles.

On this specific occasion, as I was walking towards the bus, I noticed off in the distance a very large (200 to 250 feet) Triangular vehicle and was startled.

It appeared to be a dark gray with a copper like haze that caused it to shimmer a little bit. At the angle I viewed it, I'm 100 percent positive it was a perfect triangle with rounded corners, much like a Vick’s cough drop.

It did not have landing gear/wheels. It was a tripod - T pad type support.

I could see about 2/3rds of the triangle vehicle. It wasn't until several years I found out a lot more details of what was then designated the TR-3B Astra. There were NO markings that ! could see, or vertical or horizontal stabilizers.

I glimpsed it for just a very few seconds. I was absolutely stunned by what I saw. And I had seen a lot of things in my career and two tours of Vietnam.

For a long while I thought the TR stood for Tactical Reconnaissance as is the common designation used by the USAF. I'm of the opinion that the TR stood for Teledyne Ryan. The TR-3B was NOT a second version of the TR-3A, or the TIER series of aircraft.

The primary purpose for the TR-3B is as a Space Platform for our Top Secret Space Fleet. After Popular Science magazine's false article about the triangular blimp, which was done for disinformation, and the fact that we have many deltoid shaped aircraft flying around the world, it’s been quite confusing for people to know the truth.
Especially since the DoD spends so much money and resources on disinformation, propaganda, and psyops.

At the end of my TDY to Groom AB, I received an out of cycle Airman’s Performance Report (APR), called a form 77A I believe. It and many of my military documents and videos are on the internet.

My primary career was on Avionics, Automatic Test Equipment (Computer controlled ATE), Satellite Communications, Electronic Counter Measures (ECM), and Crypto (NSA).

I had 13 or 14 different Air Force Specialty Codes (AFSCs) during my career. I was handpicked Cadre for several versions of the F-111, the F-15, F-16, the original B-1, the A-10, the 8-52 (SAC).

I had over 4,000 hours of training in specialty schools, of which about half were Top Secret. I also had factory training at McAir, GD, Bendix, Lockheed, and a number of other DoD contractors.

On these aircraft and on the AFSCs that I had, I performed as Research and Development (R&D), Flight Operations Test & Evaluation (FOT&E), site activation, fielding of new aircraft squadrons until operational.

After completion of installation of a TS Satellite Communications Command Post for the SAC/USAF on the Canadian border at a secret dispersion base, I was assigned an office at a regional USAF depot at Kelly AFB in San Antonio, TX.

I started off as a Strategic Air Command Liaison to Industry (DoD) and it rapidly changed to DoD Liaison to the Defense Industry.

The last 15 years of my career I mostly worked directly for full Colonels and Generals. My last 7 years I worked and reported to a two-star general, who I rarely saw. We were in different states. Fun stuff...

I retired in 1987 and was hired by SAIC as a Senior Program Manager. I was 38. I also worked for CEA, PCA, SSAI, and was a consultant to several other DoD contractors.

After 1996 I had no direct employment with the DoD or the Military Defense Industry which President Eisenhower (Ike) called the ‘Military Industrial Complex’.