'Shock jock' Alex Jones disrupts BBC's Sunday Politics show

[Studeo]

The annual conference of the secretive Bilderberg Group is meeting near Watford, with some leading political and business leaders from the US and Europe.

American "shock jock" Alex Jones joined Times columnist David Aaronovitch to discuss it - and ended up disrupting the show in spectacular fashion.

Presenter Andrew Neil described him as "the worst person" that he had ever interviewed.

Watch Interview here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

[aranuk]

Good on Alex! My fellow Scot Andrew Neill is Tory bastard. The Tory party defends the establishment: simply. The labour leaders pretend they oppose it and the Liberals offer another solution which simply confuses the people who don't know.


Stan

[Airwooz]

I understand Alex has to be loud to draw attention, people just so dumb or lack of interesting in many issues.

[Sabrina]

Yep good for Jones. Have had dealings with Neil and he knows how it is behind his comedian's mask. Murdoch cleverly got him out of his Sunday Times jobs after Sky TV, by offering him a job at Fox in the States which never materialised. The UK mainstream media political debate is pathetic and many of the journalists know it.

[Sabrina]

lol the so called 'alternative' media bite back: :)


http://www.aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/aaronovitch-gatekeeper-neil-former-pal.html

AARONOVITCH, GATEKEEPER; NEIL, FORMER PAL OF PAMELA; ALEX JONES, TRUTHSEEKER

Alex Jones has been on the BBC with the Zionist 'gatekeeper' David Aaronovitch.

And with the 'discredited' Andrew Neil, former friend of the prostitute Pamela Bordes.

"Documents in the Belgium child rape and murder case pointed at the involvement of both Belgium AND Dutch politicians, judiciary and police - all taking part in the Mark Dutroux child abuse scandal, but writers like Aaronovitch will tell you that it’s just another 'conspiracy theory'...

"Aaronovitch has a history of making some rather ridiculous statements.

"Whether defending the mythology of WMD's in Iraq...

"or defending Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, Aaronovitch has a pretty shameless record as an establishment gatekeeper..."

http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/11/11/an-attempt-to-erase-history-bbc-and-downing-street-hope-entwistle-sacking-will-stop-the-hemoraging-of-public-confidence/

Reportedly, one prostitute, Pamella Bordes, was simultaneously dating: Andrew Neil (then editor of Sunday Times); Donald Trelford (then editor of The Observer); Conservative minister for sport Colin Moynihan and billionaire arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.

[Fred Steeves]

American "shock jock" Alex Jones joined Times columnist David Aaronovitch to discuss it - and ended up disrupting the show in spectacular fashion.

Presenter Andrew Neil described him as "the worst person" that he had ever interviewed.

Watch Interview here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

I'm likely in the minority on this, but I think Alex disgraces himself (while discrediting alternative media) every time he goes off on these childish rants. He would fair very well to do some serious note taking from the likes of David Icke, on how to present one's truth in a dignified, articulate and respectful manner.

[eric charles]

American "shock jock" Alex Jones joined Times columnist David Aaronovitch to discuss it - and ended up disrupting the show in spectacular fashion.

Presenter Andrew Neil described him as "the worst person" that he had ever interviewed.

Watch Interview here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

I'm likely in the minority on this, but I think Alex disgraces himself (while discrediting alternative media) every time he goes off on these childish rants. He would fair very well to do some serious note taking from the likes of David Icke, on how to present one's truth in a dignified, articulate and respectful manner.


Sometimes we have to get mad Fred for the point to get across , and its very frustrating for people like you and me to get across very narrow minded . Alex only presents the basics of the conspiracy , Imagine trying to talk to those same folks about what we talk here at Avalon. hey would burn us at the stake .

[greybeard]

He who looses his temper looses it.
Shouting never gets a good result---Statesmen (not talking about politicians as such) have the ear of many as they express in a calm logical wise way.
Shouting attracts people who identify with shouting and therefore violence.
Shouting is verbal violence.
David Ike has a following because he expresses in a calm factual way---there is not the high energy of anger there, frustration at times yes.
David has said "Only unconditional love is real everything else is illusion"-- I think he believes that statement.
His suggestion is non violent --(non compliance) and is as Gandhi used to free India from colonialism.
Any time that rebels won through violence it was just more of the same.
Don't think we want that.

Chris

Copied from here--perhaps the two threads should be merged

. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59886-Alex-Jones-and-the-Daily-Politics-show&p=685481&viewfull=1#post685481

[etheric underground]

YIHAAAA!!!!.. Alex is passionate and knowledgeable and awesome... Anyone who gives it to toffy nosed
asleep journalists like these sheeples deserves my respect... Love your work mr Jones.

[RMorgan]

American "shock jock" Alex Jones joined Times columnist David Aaronovitch to discuss it - and ended up disrupting the show in spectacular fashion.

Presenter Andrew Neil described him as "the worst person" that he had ever interviewed.

Watch Interview here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

I'm likely in the minority on this, but I think Alex disgraces himself (while discrediting alternative media) every time he goes off on these childish rants. He would fair very well to do some serious note taking from the likes of David Icke, on how to present one's truth in a dignified, articulate and respectful manner.

Yeah Fred, I agree with you.

You know, there´s nothing like winning a debate with class.

Alex has the knowledge to win such kind of debates hands down, like a gentleman. However, he´s got a bad temper...

Besides, I think it´s quite rude to go into other people´s radio or tv shows, as a guest, and behave like that.

I imagine a lot of people quit listening to him at the moment he starts behaving like that... Screaming is really not the best way to make yourself be heard.

Anyway, I like him...

Raf.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Charlie Skelton was booked to appear but the BBC did not want journalism so they picked Jones instead,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/media-blog/2013/jun/10/alex-jones-daily-politics-bilderberg

Nice work, Daily Politics. You stuck a grizzly bear in your interview chair and jabbed him with a poker. The bear roared and thrashed about, and your host called him an idiot. Congratulations, have a Pulitzer.

On Sunday, the Daily Politics became Beadle's About, when they invited fiery Texan shock-jock, Alex Jones, and sat him next to David Aaronovitch, to discuss the Bilderberg conference. Jones is a known quantity to the mainstream, after his famous tirade at Piers Morgan. Everyone on the production knew precisely what was going to happen, the bellowing shambles was always the goal. It was the TV equivalent of shaking Diet Coke and Mentos.

Before the production got through to Jones, I'd been booked to take part in the discussion with Aaronovitch. I was looking forward to it, as the argument for taking Bilderberg seriously as an international policy summit is easy to make. I knew Aaronovitch would try and drag the event into the world of conspiracy, and I was ready to defend the journalists and politicians who this year were paying proper attention to an influential and unaccountable lobbying forum.

But the Daily Politics didn't want a discussion. They wanted chaos, so they booked a volcano. Barely for a second did the programme stray into a critique of the event itself. The whole sequence, from start to finish, was deliberately shaped to discredit any serious discussion of a conference which takes itself seriously enough to spend millions of pounds on security. Which is serious enough to hold the attention, for three days, of George Osborne, Kenneth Clarke, the Dutch prime minister, the head of the IMF, the heads of Google, Shell, BP and HSBC. And dozens of other senior policymakers and corporate CEOs. But for Andrew Neil's crazy gang, it was all a giant hoot.

"It's like Christmas for conspiracy theorists," grinned Neil, introducing a short video package about this year's conference. No mention made of all the mainstream press that turned up (Reuters, AP, the Times, Telegraph, Channel 4 News, BBC London News, Sky News, Daily Mail, many others) – or the fact that the report itself was shot in a press area, a first for the conference. It was just a chance to giggle at the crazies.

"This protest seems more like a slightly weird party," said reporter Adam Fleming, as his camera picked out a ventriloquist doll and a protester dressed as a clown. Kenneth Clarke turned up, plump with chuckles, to reassure a giddy Fleming that there's nothing to worry about, and not to listen to the all the "nutty theories" about Bilderberg.

Fleming didn't ask Clarke about allegedly breaching the ministerial code by attending last year's conference, or about his involvement with the Bilderberg Association charity (brought up by Michael Meacher on Sky News). He just stood there simpering while Clarke told him how "dull" the whole thing is. "I'm actually slightly disappointed," Fleming giggled. Yeah, you and me both.

From giggly start to screaming finish, it was a cheap, circus hatchet job on the story. Never, not for an instant, was there going to be a debate. They could have had one, but they wanted a hand grenade. Aaronovitch didn't even need to pull the pin. It pulled itself. Jones barely needed a nudge to explode.

Before the show I told the producers what would happen. "This isn't journalism," I said, "this is sport." If anything, it was an attack on journalism. Certainly an attack on measured thinking. I texted the producer after the show. "Job done."

[Another1]

... these snooze groups just pass right over the fact that 'they' said this was all just nuttery for years and years ... even now that this group of thieves at Bilderberg is in the open, they want to paint folks like Jones as 'conspiracy nuts'

... I will fess though, the carnival crowd outside for the cameras to see does not help their case much with mom 'n pop citizen trying to sort it all out ... clowns? they sent in clowns? ... I can try to explain why he rages like a mad man (to get our attention) but how do I explain the flippin clowns?

[bogeyman]

If I was in the same room as Alex Jones, I would have a headache.:p Loud isn't the word, if he listened rather than shout he may learn more.

[Dorjezigzag]

One question to those who are criticizing Alex Jones What have you done to draw world wide media attention to Bildeberg?
Charlie Skelton above has a case and eyeswideopen has been working hard, but I don't see that anyone else has.

We live in a world where people don't act, they just criticize those that do, from the comfort of their arm chairs.

Some people just don't get it, you don't see the big picture. The media is a circus which if you play by there rules you loose, to draw attention sometimes you need to, like a comedian, break taboos. One tactic is to shock, that is what gets people talking.

Alex has ranting for years and who has the biggest audience, runs the most efficient operation of anyone. He is now massive and each time he does one of these highly publicised meltdowns the figures get even more massive. Others in his team are more considered and gentle and help balance him out.

Bildeberg is basically a political story which normally would get no interest what so ever from the general population more interested in what their favourite celebrity is doing.
Last night I checked what was the most popular videos watched on the BBC was and it was, you guessed it Alex Jones on this show, it was also the most popular news story.
Interestingly number 5 was the interview with the more sober Gosling about the Bildeberg probably helped up by people that had enjoyed Alex Jones and wanted to know more.

In between was a video about one of the many talent shows, another video was about naked people in San fransisco, you get the picture.

Walk down any high street in the Uk and you will see people have meltdowns all over the place, many are not of the repressed, stiff upper lip, clinkinking tea cups of the English stereo type.

People are struggling more and more, they are angry, they want something done.

Within ancient Greek theatre their is a concept called catharsis whereby the audience when watching the emotions that they have repressed up on the stage experience a sense of release.
Many people would love to do what Alex has done in their increasingly abusive work situation, just tell their corrupt bosses to shut up and hear the facts.

Alex is genuinely angry, he knows these people( including that interviewer Andrew Neil by the way) are criminals, he could perhaps reign it in but it has been proven time and time again again over his extremely successful career that if he runs with his Righteous passionate anger it draws attention and increases viewers

There is this misconception that spiritualism is all meek and mild, this is just not true.

From Padmasambhava to Jesus and the money changers there is a long tradition of passionate expressions of anger against criminals, especially usurers like this Bildeberg Kabal.

I wonder if some people actually believe these people are criminals. If someone steals from your house are are you going to be all polite to them, of course not. So why are people trying to be all nicey nicey to this den of theives.

I'm going to put this picture up again, Jesus and the money changers

http://www.jesus-story.net/images/800px-Valentin_de_Boulogne_Expulsion_of_the_Money-Changers_from_the_Temple.jpg

[eric charles]

American "shock jock" Alex Jones joined Times columnist David Aaronovitch to discuss it - and ended up disrupting the show in spectacular fashion.

Presenter Andrew Neil described him as "the worst person" that he had ever interviewed.

Watch Interview here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

I'm likely in the minority on this, but I think Alex disgraces himself (while discrediting alternative media) every time he goes off on these childish rants. He would fair very well to do some serious note taking from the likes of David Icke, on how to present one's truth in a dignified, articulate and respectful manner.

Yeah Fred, I agree with you.

You know, there´s nothing like winning a debate with class.

Alex has the knowledge to win such kind of debates hands down, like a gentleman. However, he´s got a bad temper...

Besides, I think it´s quite rude to go into other people´s radio or tv shows, as a guest, and behave like that.

I imagine a lot of people quit listening to him at the moment he starts behaving like that... Screaming is really not the best way to make yourself be heard.

Anyway, I like him...

Raf.

Ok although I appreciate the comment , I do not necessarily agree .

Having class to me is being Politically correct , wich in my opinion is selling yourself out totally and degrading yourself at the same time . Alex was being told to shut up . I would flare up also !

Look ,some of us whimper when told to do so , Mr Jones does not , and I feel many more people should stand up for themselves and their views , instead of being politically correct and go out with a whimper .

[Another1]

I don't think the intent is to dis Mr. Jones or his mission when suggesting that he take it down a notch in some venues

... after all of these years he and many others like him working together, finally gets mainstream media to acknowledge this topic .... mom and pop America/The World are going to pay more attention this time ... it was an opportunity to lay it out for them and my knee jerk reaction here is that they baited him into what he does best, which is rage and figuratively speaking, scare the sheep

telling him to 'shut up' was clearly over the top and anyone could have easily predicted his response ...

[Sidney]

I am with Another1. Tell AJ to shut up, and you will get the opposite. AJ knows that in order to be heard, you have to be louder than your instigator.
The reporters obviously wanted to shut him up the minute they heard what he was going to preach about. However, when preaching turns into a crazy screaming rant, makes some people not take him seriously, and does in fact put another stamp on the alternative envelope.
Alex is over the top, and thats what makes him who he is. I happen to like him, because he refuses to let society tell him who he can and can't be.
One thing to remember, this type of behavior, DOES create attention. he got his website info in, a few times, and he got his message across. If he feels he needs to scream and act a fool, in order to get the job done, so be it. Attention is what we need on these subjects. Even bad attention can open someones eyes to the truth.

[Dorjezigzag]

Even bad attention can open someones eyes to the truth

Yep, sometimes you have to do the wrong thing for the right reasons.

[norman]

Alex is in this for the long haul and the biggest picture. He has committed himself to the 'cause'.

Ask David Icke about being ridiculed. He's been there and come back bigger and stronger.

David Icke was never a loud mouthed studio preacher but Alex isn't David Icke. His passion is bigger than his self control. His self control is actually pretty good. It just is no match for his passion.

I fully appreciate Alex's understanding of the fact that being reasonable hands the initiative to the system spin doctors. This is not about a college debate where everyone ends up with a certificate to allow them to practice within the higher levels of the system. That's what the system wants to either keep it as or, if it's Alex generated, convert it into.

The best thing Alex can do is keep on doing what he's already doing. At the very least, his outbursts will never become absorbed into carefully twisted fake revolutionary talk and writings.

[Snookie]

American "shock jock" Alex Jones joined Times columnist David Aaronovitch to discuss it - and ended up disrupting the show in spectacular fashion.

Presenter Andrew Neil described him as "the worst person" that he had ever interviewed.

Watch Interview here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

I'm likely in the minority on this, but I think Alex disgraces himself (while discrediting alternative media) every time he goes off on these childish rants. He would fair very well to do some serious note taking from the likes of David Icke, on how to present one's truth in a dignified, articulate and respectful manner.

I was just listening to The No Agenda Show, and Adam Curry said that Alex Jones is so 70's in that he is always talking about FEMA camps. Adam doesn't think TPTB have any interest in putting any of us in camps...that's way too much trouble. It is much more subtle and dangerous than that. I think he makes a good point.
http://www.noagendashow.com/

[Camilo]

Yeah, those Brits (the msm) don't get it!

[Another1]

as someone who lives within an hour's drive of 2 main alleged camps, I ponder their motivation now and then ... why put us in a camp? slave labor? much easier to kill us, we're useless for most physical gain by them while in a camp requiring full 100% support for daily our needs

the sheep hear 2 stories - one official that they (FEMA Camps) are there to help us in an emergency, and one coming from people who scream and spit in fear/anger at how the governement wants to kill and/or enslave us any moment now, for a 20+ years, it's coming any moment now ...

if i raged on this forum every day, all CAPS and constant accusations that contrary comments come from stupid sheep ... how long would the moderators allow me to stay? He's one helluva showman who has done a lot of good in his own way but I think he just fell into a troll-trap there on that teeeeeveeeee show

[greybeard]

Yeah, those Brits (the msm) don't get it!

Im smiling maybe the msm dont get it, but please dont dump any Brits in with them.
After all Bill is a Brit.
Ch
Ps So is David Icke
Many Brits have been all too aware of what is going on, at least some of, it for years.

[Fred Steeves]

You know, there´s nothing like winning a debate with class.

Alex has the knowledge to win such kind of debates hands down, like a gentleman. However, he´s got a bad temper...


Having class to me is being Politically correct , wich in my opinion is selling yourself out totally and degrading yourself at the same time . Alex was being told to shut up . I would flare up also !


Having class is having class, period. One doesn't need to come unglued to stand their ground and get their point across, even when faced with rudeness in a heated discussion.

[eric charles]

You know, there´s nothing like winning a debate with class.

Alex has the knowledge to win such kind of debates hands down, like a gentleman. However, he´s got a bad temper...


Having class to me is being Politically correct , wich in my opinion is selling yourself out totally and degrading yourself at the same time . Alex was being told to shut up . I would flare up also !


Having class is having class, period. One doesn't need to come unglued to stand their ground and get their point across, even when faced with rudeness in a heated discussion.

Look Bankers are all cloaked in class , from their penthouse suites , to the Giorgio Armani suites they wear and their parted hairlines . Yet they will suck the blood right out of you , but as long as they have class eh ?

[DevilPigeon]

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Can't deny his passion, which is a good thing. And his hour-long stint on Saturday was rousing, totally full of positive energy.

The BBC thing on Sunday was obviously designed to make him look a fool. In my opinion, the way that pompous buffoon Neill acted may have inadvertently neutralised their aim. Neill was far more disrespectful (as "neutral" host)

[Tesseract]

I will give AJ credit for at least this: he is willing to be publicly interviewed by people with the opposite view. All too often those in the alternative scene (especially finance) are interviewed by a person with the same beliefs, and their arguments are never really tested. You're frequently left wondering 'why didn't the interviewer ask him this or that'. It's a mutual admiration society. Likewise credit to the BBC for having him on, although I do question their motives.

I would like to see AJ sit down for an hour or so with a contrary interviewer to enable an extended and in depth dialogue. The extra time would remove the perceived need of both parties to yell and interrupt.

[bennycog]

I feel sorry for ol alex.. His vibrant passion for what he does has shone a bad light on him here in this usually boring interview.. He spiced it up well..
Maybe he should have started at a whisper then got rolling on so he had more airtime..
I don't like how they put him down though..

[Kiforall]

Alex Jones has taken the alternative media and made it more relevant than mainstream media. Newspapers, local news, and national news broadcasters have failed us in exposing foul play by people that can affect our lives. Had the mainstream news media followed Alex's lead, this country would have been able to make better decisions at the ballot box. Alex has exposed the government and big business as villains fighting freedom. I hope more people start to listen to him.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/47403/prism-scandal-alex-jones-is-now-more-relevant-than-the-mainstream-media

If you haven't seen Alex explain his conduct it may be worth watching. He does have a point.
Any publicity is good publicity and we all know that the general public like a good old slanging match.

http://youtu.be/51cKQcJ9NpA

But I do agree that if people like Jones and Icke are a threat to the elite/NWO why haven't they "disappeared", all I can think of is that they offer another well needed distraction for a different group of people.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

One question to those who are criticizing Alex Jones What have you done to draw world wide media attention to Bildeberg?
Charlie Skelton above has a case and eyeswideopen has been working hard, but I don't see that anyone else has.

We live in a world where people don't act, they just criticize those that do, from the comfort of their arm chairs.

Some people just don't get it, you don't see the big picture. The media is a circus which if you play by there rules you loose, to draw attention sometimes you need to, like a comedian, break taboos. One tactic is to shock, that is what gets people talking.

Alex has ranting for years and who has the biggest audience, runs the most efficient operation of anyone. He is now massive and each time he does one of these highly publicised meltdowns the figures get even more massive. Others in his team are more considered and gentle and help balance him out.

Bildeberg is basically a political story which normally would get no interest what so ever from the general population more interested in what their favourite celebrity is doing.
Last night I checked what was the most popular videos watched on the BBC was and it was, you guessed it Alex Jones on this show, it was also the most popular news story.
Interestingly number 5 was the interview with the more sober Gosling about the Bildeberg probably helped up by people that had enjoyed Alex Jones and wanted to know more.

In between was a video about one of the many talent shows, another video was about naked people in San fransisco, you get the picture.

Walk down any high street in the Uk and you will see people have meltdowns all over the place, many are not of the repressed, stiff upper lip, clinkinking tea cups of the English stereo type.

People are struggling more and more, they are angry, they want something done.

Within ancient Greek theatre their is a concept called catharsis whereby the audience when watching the emotions that they have repressed up on the stage experience a sense of release.
Many people would love to do what Alex has done in their increasingly abusive work situation, just tell their corrupt bosses to shut up and hear the facts.

Alex is genuinely angry, he knows these people( including that interviewer Andrew Neil by the way) are criminals, he could perhaps reign it in but it has been proven time and time again again over his extremely successful career that if he runs with his Righteous passionate anger it draws attention and increases viewers

There is this misconception that spiritualism is all meek and mild, this is just not true.

From Padmasambhava to Jesus and the money changers there is a long tradition of passionate expressions of anger against criminals, especially usurers like this Bildeberg Kabal.

I wonder if some people actually believe these people are criminals. If someone steals from your house are are you going to be all polite to them, of course not. So why are people trying to be all nicey nicey to this den of theives.

I'm going to put this picture up again, Jesus and the money changers

http://www.jesus-story.net/images/800px-Valentin_de_Boulogne_Expulsion_of_the_Money-Changers_from_the_Temple.jpg

Charlie's final bit for the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/11/bilderberg-davidcameron

The lens caps are back on for another year. The satellite trucks have trundled off, the police patrols have melted away and the security fence has been forklifted off. Bilderberg has left the building and finally the residents of Old Hempstead Road are getting their verge back.

No one who witnessed it will soon forget Bilderberg Watford. Or "Hertfordshire 2013" as the official security lanyards call it, coyly. (The organisers clearly couldn't quite bring themselves to embrace the name Watford – it hasn't got that blue-chip, billionaire ring to it.)

"Hertfordshire 2013" went out with a bang, not a whimper, as talkshow host Alex Jones exploded on Sunday Politics, and Ken Clarke found himself answering questions in parliament. Issues of security funding, lobbying registers and undeclared interests remain, but they will be picked apart in the weeks to come. For now, it's time for Watford to reflect on what just happened.

"I wouldn't join 'em, even if they asked me," said Jack Ruck, an 87-year-old RAF veteran. Jack stared up at the luxury Grove Hotel. "200 quid a night? I'd rather sleep in my car." Jack felt a genuine pang of sorrow for the Bilderberg delegates, spending so long conferencing in their five-star gulag. "What do they want out of life?" he wondered. "I think they'd have been happier round my back garden having a barbecue."

Of all the politicians and policymakers at Bilderberg this year, the happiest, without a doubt, was none of the delegates. It was Michael Meacher. He had such a rewarding time in the press zone on Thursday – "the most fun I've had in the last 20 years of politics" – that he came back towards the end of the conference to deliver a barnstorming speech at the Bilderberg Fringe.

A grey and dapper fireball of righteous indignation, Meacher energised the crowds, railing mightily against the failure of democracy that the conference represents. He pointed out the irony that that while people were demanding more transparency from those in power, the public themselves have never been more transparent to the powers that be, with every email, text and private message visible to GCHQ & co.

The crowd whooped and roared, the sun blazed and the years fell away from Meacher. He hopped off the platform like a young firebrand, and was mobbed by grateful campaigners. "This moment is historical," smiled Basílio Martins, a journalist from Portugal. "People need to know about Bilderberg, and now they start to know."

At the weekend, the press zone inside the hotel grounds morphed into a public zone, and the crowds were astonishing. Two thousand people inside the paddock – that's up from barely a dozen in 2009. A huge queue of people zig-zagged up and down Grove Mill Lane; it's estimated that another 2,000 were turned away. So, more people were turned away from Bilderberg 2013 than had shown up to all previous Bilderberg conferences put together. If that's not a sign of the times, I don't know what is.

But the biggest change has been in the coverage. Finally, after 59 years, Bilderberg has beeped its way onto the radar of the mainstream press. Basílio showed me photocopies of some Portuguese papers. He translated from the Diário Económico: "They get together to define the political agenda of the world." Portugal's main opposition leader, António José Seguro, was confronted by journalists on live television, and asked about Bilderberg. "He was very angry, he turned his face and said he would not answer."

David Cameron is likely to face questions from journalists about the visit he paid to Bilderberg on Friday. But he'll be fine about that, as Downing Street declared: "The Prime Minister has always been clear about the importance of transparency."

Tamsin Cave of the Alliance for Lobbying Transparency is sceptical. "The Prime Minister is a public servant. His job is to represent the public interest. When he is meeting with this elite group of business leaders whose interest is he really serving?"

One pro-transparency campaigner has had enough: "For too long, those in power made decisions behind closed doors, released information behind a veil of jargon and denied people the power to hold them to account."

This particular critic of closed-doors government is a certain David Cameron, speaking shortly after taking office. "This coalition is driving a wrecking ball through that culture," he said, "and it's called transparency."


Lord Mandelson, chairman of Lazard International. Photograph: oneiroscope.com
Cameron wasn't the only one swinging the wrecking-ball of transparency inside this year's Bilderberg. He was joined on the end of the chain by Jessica Mathews, who sits on the advisory council of Transparency International, and James Wolfensohn, who's on the advisory council of Transparency International USA. Together, I'm sure, they were lobbying hard to open up this last bastion of murky politicking to the sunlight. If they could find the time between seminars.

No time for slacking off and lolling about on the lawns. These oil company bosses and billionaire venture capitalists have got "Africa's challenges" to sort out, and all that "big data" to divvy up. That's why, as Bilderberg's brand new "media contact" told me, the conference food is "buffet only, all days, all meals". You don't align this many diaries to waste time on banqueting. A scoop of coronation chicken and a bread roll, then it's back to the coalface.

"Aye, they're hard at work up there," said Jamie Hughes, who drove seven straight hours from Kilmarnock to see the event for himself. "They've got deals to sign, the world to globalise – it always gets me how busy they are."

Jamie is impressed by their industry, if not their candour. "Our politicians have lied to us for years. At first it makes you depressed, then it makes you angry." Is that why you're here, I asked him, because you're angry? "I'm here because I don't trust them."

Trust and loo rolls, two things that were in short supply in Watford this week. Up behind the security fence, politicians and prime ministers skulked around with billionaire industrialists and media moguls at the world's biggest private corporate lobbying jolly, while down in the Bilderberg press paddock it was so busy that the portaloo roll-holders ran low. Over by the hedge, the Hare Krishnas did a roaring trade with their free vegetable curries. A connection? I prefer not to speculate.

The free food and glorious sunshine kept the mood light, and the only time you saw a policeman with arms around a protester was for a souvenir photo. Inspector Moss of Herts Constabulary spent days pedalling around the venue, keeping an eye on the crowds. He hopped off long enough to give his verdict. "It's been very peaceable, no issues. Everyone's been friendly, polite."

Dutch journalist Jurriaan Maessen agrees. "It's a great atmosphere on the ground, beautiful people, very dynamic. I have beautiful feelings about it," he says. "There are all kinds of people here. Different opinions. It is not monolithic."

Maessen is covering "Hertfordshire 2013" for explosivereports.com. Half a mile away, his prime minister was closeted with the head of Google, the chief executive of Royal Dutch Shell and the chairman of Lazard International (otherwise known as Lord Mandelson).

"I feel a kind of moral indignation," Maessen says. "I pay taxes, so I want to know what my elected officials are talking about. That's how I'd like my politics to be. It is time for Bilderberg to make a choice: either it's private, you hold a nice little party, but you don't let the police secure your event, you pay all the costs, and it's a nice little talking shop between friends. Or it's not private."

As to what they're discussing, "perhaps they are sitting around saying beautiful things. A bunch of enlightened souls sitting together."

Maessen smiles at the thought. "I doubt it though."

[Dorjezigzag]

You know, there´s nothing like winning a debate with class.

Alex has the knowledge to win such kind of debates hands down, like a gentleman. However, he´s got a bad temper...


Having class to me is being Politically correct , wich in my opinion is selling yourself out totally and degrading yourself at the same time . Alex was being told to shut up . I would flare up also !


Having class is having class, period. One doesn't need to come unglued to stand their ground and get their point across, even when faced with rudeness in a heated discussion.

Interesting that you used the word class Fred

The term "class" is etymologically derived from the Latin classis, which was used by census takers to categorize citizens by wealth, in order to determine military service obligations.

In the late 18th century, the term "class" began to replace classifications such as estates, rank, and orders as the primary means of organizing society into hierarchical divisions. This corresponded to a general decrease in significance ascribed to hereditary characteristics, and increase in the significance of wealth and income as indicators of position in the social hierarchy.

Those in the Grove Hotel for Bildeberg had lots of class, they behave in the sober way associated with the ruling classes. Lots of stiff upper lip and jolly hockey sticks.

For many people whose families have been abused by those of class for centuries, being classy does not have the same allure that it appears to have for some people on this Forum.

There are plenty of classy people on our side Charlie Skelton, Tony Gosling to name but a few and now it seems the MP Micheal Meacher (we will see if he is there for the long haul).

What was great about the Bildeberg protest gathering was that there was people from all age groups, all sections of society and they were all together. There was no Racism, sexism or class-ism.

Yes we need classy people on our side to win the hearts of those conditioned that one has to behave in a certain way to be relevant.

But ultimately this movement is about truth not about class, and some times the truth needs to be served with passion.

[Fred Steeves]

Having class to me is being Politically correct , wich in my opinion is selling yourself out totally and degrading yourself at the same time .




Look Bankers are all cloaked in class , from their penthouse suites , to the Giorgio Armani suites they wear and their parted hairlines . Yet they will suck the blood right out of you , but as long as they have class eh ?



Interesting that you used the word class Fred

The term "class" is etymologically derived from the Latin classis, which was used by census takers to categorize citizens by wealth, in order to determine military service obligations.


I see we're stuck on the word "class", class as in "politically correct", "penthouse suites", "Armami suites" and/or "categorized citizens". Very well then, would displaying "grace under pressure" work better?

As in: When Alex is confronted with rudeness and stupidity (especially on camera), he (and us) would be well served by displaying a bit of grace under pressure.

Here is Wiki's definition:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_meaning_of_grace_under_pressure



Grace under pressure refers to the behaviour of a person who is under a lot of pressure.

Say you're working as the boss of a team and you've got a deadline to meet, grace under pressure means you don't stomp around the office yelling at people, pulling your hair out, sweating and generally going crazy.

It means you retain a calm outward appearance and remain polite when dealing with people.


Remember the guy who took us on that little tour of The Grove before the Bilderberg meeting, and he was hassled by private security and police the whole time? Now THAT in my book, was displaying grace under pressure at it's finest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNjJe7D090E

[Dorjezigzag]

Having class to me is being Politically correct , wich in my opinion is selling yourself out totally and degrading yourself at the same time .




Look Bankers are all cloaked in class , from their penthouse suites , to the Giorgio Armani suites they wear and their parted hairlines . Yet they will suck the blood right out of you , but as long as they have class eh ?



Interesting that you used the word class Fred

The term "class" is etymologically derived from the Latin classis, which was used by census takers to categorize citizens by wealth, in order to determine military service obligations.


I see we're stuck on the word "class", class as in "politically correct", "penthouse suites", "Armami suites" and/or "categorized citizens". Very well then, would displaying "grace under pressure" work better?

As in: When Alex is confronted with rudeness and stupidity (especially on camera), he (and us) would be well served by displaying a bit of grace under pressure.

Here is Wiki's definition:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_meaning_of_grace_under_pressure



Grace under pressure refers to the behaviour of a person who is under a lot of pressure.

Say you're working as the boss of a team and you've got a deadline to meet, grace under pressure means you don't stomp around the office yelling at people, pulling your hair out, sweating and generally going crazy.

It means you retain a calm outward appearance and remain polite when dealing with people.


I understand Fred you believe some ones style is more important than their substance and you love telling people how to behave and what to think.

How about rather than attacking our own people, you put some energy into attacking the real offenders.

Grace has its place, but so does passion. I love to watch a ballet but I don't think Alex will be joining The Royal National ballet anytime soon.
He has his strengths which he plays to.

Alex has millions of viewers, how many do you have?


Remember the guy who took us on that little tour of The Grove before the Bilderberg meeting, and he was hassled by private security and police the whole time? Now THAT in my book, was displaying grace under pressure at it's finest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNjJe7D090E

Yes like Alex he is doing his thing, he is playing his part as his personality and upbringing best serves him, as is Alex. Some people will want to listen to him others Alex

[Another1]

I was working in the newsroom for a small town paper during the Ron Paul campaign and the only one in the office who even knew his name at first.

Behind the building many mornings were a couple of RP supporters who could spit their anger and fear so loudly you could hear it inside the building. They quite literally frightened some of these small town folks with their rage.

Inside the building I was trying to educate the publisher, editor and reporters on his campaign and how he was getting people to learn about the constitution and our rights. To my dismay, the people inside the building would just refer to the angry ones screaming out back in the mornings and express concern for me. In one case, the editor did work up a column mocking people who say they 'want their constitution back' - alleging they didn't even know what was written on it and were just being parrots.

To his credit I will add, the publisher called me in one day and said he was happy to know someone who cared enough to try and do something, even if he thought I was on wrong path supporting these paranoid people. He also let me continue breaking the rules by using my company discount to run Ron Paul ads. :)

Perhaps my opine is biased a bit much by being in this small town with easily frightened people.

I appreciate what Mr. Jones has done over the years.
For now though, I try to understand what he's saying and translate to sheeple.

[InCiDeR]

Express yourself completely,
then keep quiet.
Be like the forces of nature:
when it blows, there is only wind;
when it rains, there is only rain;
when the clouds pass, the sun shines through.

Screaming to a deaf
will not help
neither will whispering

Passion will conquer them both

Let everyone be what comes natural
otherwise no one will hear
their passion

[mahalall]

If Andrew Neil's (interviewer) pathetically, insulting gestures of Mr Jones represent what the establishment want to present, then they are truly mistaken, because Mr Jones is simply easy to understand for the masses.

Alex Jones rhetorical style is monotonal and may not appeal to those who have grown to see themselves as having more sophisticated tastes but his words are clearly passionate.

Seeing him at play on Friday made me realise what a huggable guy with a loud hoot he is! He also produced one of the funniest moments of that day at the festival. In the midst of a scrum of people he found it difficult to break away for a pee. When he finally came out of the toilet-to a standing ovation his face and action was a picture.

[jagman]

Alex is probably not the best spokesman for the alternative media
but he dedicates his life to exposing the tyrannical world we live in.
He is under constant scrutiny & ridicule from the mainstream.He
should probably let one of his reporters do the interviews. lol
Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Alex resonates
with a lot of people. 3 to 5 million people a day watch and listen to AJ
Real quick example. Alex and crew started running stories on the
DHS buying millions of rounds of ammo last year. It was six months later
before the mainstream media reported the same story.I have seen this
same example play out many times has i'm sure you all have seen the same.