Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

[Cidersomerset]

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Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

The 29-year-old source behind the biggest intelligence leak in the NSA's history explains
his motives, his uncertain future and why he never intended on hiding in the shadows

• Q&A with NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden: 'I do not expect to see home again'


The individual responsible for one of the most significant leaks in US political history is
Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA and current
employee of the defence contractor Booz Allen Hamilton. Snowden has been working at
the National Security Agency for the last four years as an employee of various outside
contractors, including Booz Allen and Dell.

The Guardian, after several days of interviews, is revealing his identity at his request.
From the moment he decided to disclose numerous top-secret documents to the public,
he was determined not to opt for the protection of anonymity. "I have no intention of
hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong," he said.


Read More...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

[Cidersomerset]

Obama defends NSA surveillance programs


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Published on 7 Jun 2013


After The Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald released a story detailing how the
NSA has been collecting the records of million of Verizon customers, the Obama
administration has been defending the actions of the agency. The topic of
surveillance has taken center stage and still more information continues to come
out explaining how the government is willing to do whatever it takes to spy on
Americans. RT's Anastasia Churkina and Colonel Morris Davis sound off on the
latest developments.

[Cidersomerset]

SURPRISE SURPRISE !! Its always the 'Bogey Man'...

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Published on 9 Jun 2013


For the past seven years, the NSA has had a secret court order to obtain all phone
records of Verizon customers. This all became a reality after Guardian reporter
Glenn Greenwald exposed the practice, but now President Obama is claiming this is
a necessary evil to win the ongoing war on terror. Sahar Aziz, associate professor
of law at Texas Wesleyan University, brings us more.

[northstar]

Official government response to NSA surveillance leak:

There, there now. Calm down. Everything is fine here. There is nothing to see here.
Move along and do what you are told by the police and the armed forces marching in your streets.
Yes, we have all citizens under constant surveillance but it is being done for your best interest!
Yes, we are destroying your privacy but we are doing it to protect you!
Be a good little herd member and obey us and stop questioning the actions of the police state.
Go home and take some Xanax and turn on the TV and watch some nice distracting reality TV.






Obama response to NSA scandal inadequate, alarming (http://www.usforacle.com/obama-response-to-nsa-scandal-inadequate-alarming-1.2829308#.UbV4uNiwWuk)

During President Barack Obama’s public press conference addressing the leaks from the National Security Agency’s controversial PRISM Internet surveillance program and court-ordered seizure of Verizon phone records, he reiterated his campaign’s most vital commitments — to keep the American people safe and adhere to the principles of the constitution.

What ensued was a flimsy, evasive justification of an egregious overreach of government powers followed by a trite, political appeal to the American public.

“Nobody is listening to your telephone calls,” the president ensured.

What the NSA says it is doing, however, is collecting metadata — information ranging from call locations, durations and telephone numbers — a diminutive term that is likely being used for public relations purposes to avoid public suspicion.

The president further distanced himself from culpability by reminding the American public that congressional oversight committees, along with all elected officials, were aware of these programs all along and that all warrants for privacy intrusion were granted by the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, a cryptic government establishment created with the passage of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978.

[naste.de.lumina]

Official government response to NSA surveillance leak:

There, there now. Calm down. Everything is fine here. There is nothing to see here.
Move along and do what you are told by the police and the army forces marching in your streets.
Yes, we have all citizens under constant surveillance but it is being done for your best interest!
Yes, we are destroying your privacy but we are doing it to protect you!
Be a good little herd member and obey us and stop questioning the actions of the police state.
Go home and take some Xanax and turn on the TV and watch some nice distracting reality TV.


Ohhh and do not forget to pay their taxes correctly, you know, this whole welfare and security costs a few bucks.




Obama response to NSA scandal inadequate, alarming (http://www.usforacle.com/obama-response-to-nsa-scandal-inadequate-alarming-1.2829308#.UbV4uNiwWuk)

During President Barack Obama’s public press conference addressing the leaks from the National Security Agency’s controversial PRISM Internet surveillance program and court-ordered seizure of Verizon phone records, he reiterated his campaign’s most vital commitments — to keep the American people safe and adhere to the principles of the constitution.

What ensued was a flimsy, evasive justification of an egregious overreach of government powers followed by a trite, political appeal to the American public.

“Nobody is listening to your telephone calls,” the president ensured.

What the NSA says it is doing, however, is collecting metadata — information ranging from call locations, durations and telephone numbers — a diminutive term that is likely being used for public relations purposes to avoid public suspicion.

The president further distanced himself from culpability by reminding the American public that congressional oversight committees, along with all elected officials, were aware of these programs all along and that all warrants for privacy intrusion were granted by the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, a cryptic government establishment created with the passage of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978.


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[bogeyman]

Snowden is going to be found dead, or have a nice little accident....or caught and crucified by the USG. The CIA are no doubt looking for him as well, they may use deadly force.

[Roisin]

My question is, how have the elite and those in power benefited from the implementation of PRISM? Will they be able to gain financially by, for example, having access to information that may boost inside trading in the stockmarket?

Thanks to PRISM, the rich are going to get richer and the common man is going to be left further and further behind. That precarious demarcation between the 'haves' and the 'have nots' is going to continue to grow where someday, in the near future, that gap will be so wide, our world will not even be recognizable anymore because by then, we, the common people, will be fighting for our very existence.

[Poly Hedra]

This revelation is not shocking to everyone here so the significance lies with this whistleblower being in the mainstream media. I guess it's shocking to the mainstream and I hope it's makes a few more people sit up and take notice and maybe look into other whistleblowers and subjects.
I wonder did he learn anything from other whistleblowers about being out in the public as much as possible to make it harder to be silenced.
I'm starting to believe that this is really the age of revealing/truth. I dare say the alternative information is becoming more accessable, more of a curiosity to more people.

[Ki's]

MSN had a catchy little piece of mainstream propaganda this morning.

The headline reads....
"We trust the government to do the right thing to protect the country. Polls suggest most Americans support infringement on civil liberties to catch terrorists."

Looks like the mainstream border collies are under orders to try and contain the sheep.

[Kimberley]

This is a good article...

Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

Posted by Pam Suggs on June 9, 2013 at 7:25pm in Activsm

http://unitedtruthseekers.com/forum/topics/edward-snowden-the-whistleblower-behind-the-nsa-surveillance-reve

[bruno dante]

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[eric charles]

Finally , some real insider with true and verifiable information ! Kudos to him , I have a feeling he will not be alive or in the public eye for much longer , ahhh hummmm death squads , did I say that out loud hmmm sorry

[Kryztian]

I want to say Mr. Snowden deserves a Nobel prize, but unfortunately, a former Peace Prize winner will probably have his administration ignore the crimes that have been exposed, promote the chief perpetrators of these crimes to new positions of power, and then have Mr. Snowden arrested and imprisoned.

[Kimberley]

And here is another great article...


Time for Europe to stop being complicit in NSA's crimes
June 10, 2013 - 12:11pm

http://www.neurope.eu/blog/time-europe-stop-being-complicit-nsas-crimes

[bruno dante]

Hi Eric, I fear you are correct. And so does Edward. He seems very aware that his potential life span has now dwindled to perhaps a fraction of what it once was...and seems oddly at peace with it.

[Kimberley]

There is another thread on this topic with a lot more information...I suggest a merge...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59919-Edward-Snowden-the-whistleblower-behind-the-NSA-surveillance-revelations

[bruno dante]

Many of the radio call in shows here in the states are debating whether this man is a hero or villain, which in my opinion is a colossal waste of energy and very clearly misses the point. Though I think this is done intentionally in an attempt to muddy the waters, to distract people from the real issue here.

Expect a smear campaign from the Obama administration(of course;)). They'll have to get pretty creative though. As Edward points out, he sacrificed a cushy job that paid him $200,000 a year, an idyllic home in Hawaii, and a chance to ever live and work again on his home soil. The information that he leaked to the public could have easily been sold to the Russians for a small fortune, but he didn't go that route. And he could have remained anonymous, but he *chose* to come forward...

The word 'hero' has been so diluted and exploited by the American government for so long as to render it almost meaningless, but I feel compelled to use it here. Edward Snowden is a hero, a hero of the greatest magnitude.

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There is another thread on this topic with a lot more information...I suggest a merge...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59919-Edward-Snowden-the-whistleblower-behind-the-NSA-surveillance-revelations


Damnit, and I even used that "has this info been posted before" option;)

Thanks Kimberly!

Mods please close this thread. Thank you.

[Christine]

Threads have been merged. :)

[Eagle Eye]

We have to sacrifice the privacy to win the war against terrorist.... That was very convincing LOL
Sad thing is that people knew that before but just don't care anymore. They feel too weak against government, they are affraid for their lives, have no power to react, small protests will take place but no harm for the elite. All this disclosure will be forgotten for a short period of time.
What's next ? My guess is michrochipping for their own security

[Prodigal Son]

Maybe they won't kill this guy. I certainly hope they don't. At this point it would work against the cabal to keep eliminating everybody that comes forward. Snowden had reached a very high profile here and Obama is already fumbling over himself trying to weasel out of this mess. All it would do is mobilize the masses and wake up the remaining dead. They may as well declare martial law already and show their hand, because it's already out in the open.

[Snookie]

Snowden is going to be found dead, or have a nice little accident....or caught and crucified by the USG. The CIA are no doubt looking for him as well, they may use deadly force.

He is well aware of this, even refers to how busy they will be for the next few weeks. That's what makes him such a brave man. They will probably make it look like an accident, no point in creating an obvious martyr. They will most likely pull an Aaron Schwartz on him.

He needs all our prayers and good intentions.

[Cidersomerset]

'Nothing will stop CIA, NSA from catching Snowden'


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Published on 10 Jun 2013


The United States criminal chase has begun - with top
officials calling for Edward Snowden to be prosecuted to
the harshest extent of the law. Intelligence analyst Glenmore
Treaner-Harvey told RT Washington will try everything to
catch the whistleblower.

[Hervé]

Questions in need of answers...


NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden’s story? (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/nsa-leaker-are-there-serious-cracks-in-ed-snowdens-story/)
By Jon Rappoport, June 10, 2013


First, I’m not doubting the documents Ed Snowden has brought forward. I’m not doubting the illegal reach of the NSA in spying on Americans and the world.

But as to how this recent revelation happened, and whether Ed Snowden’s history holds up…I have questions.

Could Snowden have been given extraordinary access to classified info as part of a larger scheme? Could he be a) an honest man and yet b) a guy who was set up to do what he’s doing now?

If b) is true, then Snowden fits the bill perfectly. He wants to do what he’s doing. He isn’t lying about that. He means what he says.

Okay. Let’s look at his history as reported by The Guardian.

In 2003, at age 19, without a high school diploma, Snowden enlists in the Army. He begins a training program to join the Special Forces. The sequence here is fuzzy. At what point after enlistment can a new soldier start this training program? Does he need to demonstrate some exceptional ability before Special Forces puts him in that program?

Snowden breaks both legs in a training exercise. He’s discharged from the Army. Is that automatic? How about healing and then resuming Army service? Just asking.

If he was accepted in the Special Forces training program because he had special computer skills, then why discharge him simply because he broke both legs?

Circa 2003 (?), Snowden gets a job as a security guard for an NSA facility at the University of Maryland. He specifically wanted to work for NSA? It was just a generic job opening he found out about?

Also in 2003 (?), Snowden shifts jobs. He’s now in the CIA, in IT. He has no high school diploma. He’s a young computer genius?

In 2007, Snowden is sent to Geneva. He’s only 23 years old. The CIA gives him diplomatic cover there. He’s put in charge of maintaining computer-network security. Major job. Obviously, he has access to a very wide range of classified documents. Sound a little odd? Again, just asking. He’s just a kid. Maybe he has his GED by now. Otherwise, he still doesn’t have a high school diploma.

Snowden says that during this period, in Geneva, one of the incidents that really sours him on the CIA is the “turning of a Swiss banker.” One night, CIA guys get a banker drunk, encourage him to drive home, the banker gets busted, the CIA guys help him out, then with that bond formed, they eventually get the banker to reveal deep banking secrets to the Agency.

Snowden is this naïve? He doesn’t know by now that the CIA does this sort of thing all the time? He’s shocked? He “didn’t sign up for this?”

In 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA. Why? Presumably because he’s disillusioned. It should noted here that Snowden claimed he could do very heavy damage to the entire US intelligence community in 2008, but decided to wait because he thought Obama, just coming into the presidency, might make good changes.

After two years with the CIA in Geneva, Snowden really had the capability to take down the whole US intelligence network, or a major chunk of it? He had that much access to classified data?

Anyway, in 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA and goes to work for a private defense contractor. Apparently, by this time, he knows all about the phony US war in Iraq, and yet he chooses to work for a sector that relentlessly promotes such wars. Go figure.

This defense contractor (unnamed) assigns him to work at an NSA facility in Japan. Surely, Snowden understands what the NSA is. He knows it’s a key part of the whole military-intelligence network, the network he opposes.

But he takes the job anyway. Perhaps he’s doing it so he can obtain further access to classified data, in advance of blowing a big whistle. Perhaps.

Snowden goes on to work for two private defense contractors, Dell and Booze Allen Hamilton. In this latter job, Snowden is again assigned to work at the NSA.

He’s an outsider, but he claims to have so much sensitive NSA data that he can take down the whole US intelligence network in a single day. Hmm.

These are red flags. They raise questions. Serious ones.

If The Guardian, which has such close access to Snowden, wants to explore these questions, they might come up with some interesting answers.

Again, I’m not doubting that the documents Snowden has brought forward are real. I have to assume they are. I certainly don’t doubt the reach and the power and the criminality of the NSA.

Although I’m sure someone will write me and say I’m defending the NSA. I’M NOT.
But if Snowden was maneuvered, in his career, without his knowing it, to arrive at just this point, then we have a whole new story. We have a story about unknown forces who wanted this exposure to occur.

Who would these forces be? I could make lots of guesses. But they would just be guesses.

Perhaps all the anomalies in the career of Ed Snowden can be explained with sensible answers. I realize that. But until they are, I put the questions forward. And leave them there.

Jon Rappoport

[Kimberley]

I guess we need to start an "I am Edward Snowden" campaign... :thank_you2:

[Cidersomerset]

What I'm surprised about is that nobody knows whats happening...LOL

What I don't believe, as with a lot of the headline threads that have
been coming out lately. Is I've always presumed this has been secret
from WW11 thru the cold war till today. Most NATO intelligence
agencies have shared intelligence. Where the abuse has come in since
1990, and the end of the cold war, is who really controls the 'Spooks' ?

We in the alternate community feel its the secret cabals behind the
curtain that run things like the war on Terror and drug running.
That's why listening to the mainstream discussions are so funny
to us, because they are missing the main players.

Still I will still post them for the sake of contrast etc....
Some of it is obviously true .


Has UK got round surveillance laws by using the US?

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Published on 10 Jun 2013


Krishnan talks to General Jonathan Shaw, the former
head of cyber-security at the Ministry of Defence, and
in Geneva with Caspar Bowden, the former chief privacy
adviser at Microsoft.


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UK intelligence does not get around law, says Hague

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Published on 10 Jun 2013


Foreign Secretary William Hague says accusations that
GCHQ uses its partnership with the US to get around
UK law are "baseless".

[Cidersomerset]

Theres a massive intelligence organisation under 'Echolon' that is gathering..
" Intelligence" as we speak...LOL...The media acts if 'Spying' espionage,
political assassinations are only in the movies. When they are very real.



Menwith Hill and GCHQ eavesdropping facilities coordinating intelligence of US drone attacks

Posted on October 7, 2012 by admin

http://darkernet.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/wpid-RAF_Menwith_Hill_-_geograph_org_uk_-_56587.jpg.CROP_.rectangle3-large.jpg



Menwith Hill, the US eavesdropping facility in Britain, is believed to play a crucial
role in the coordination of US drone attacks as part of the highly classified ‘
ECHELON ‘ umbrella. It is the United States’ largest overseas intelligence station,
staffed by several hundred National Security Agency operatives. Intelligence
gathered by GCHQ at Cheltenham and it’s outstation at Morwenstow is also
believed to be provided to US forces planning the drone attacks.


http://darkernet.in/menwith-hill-and-gchq-eavesdropping-facilities-coordinating-intelligence-of-us-drone-attacks/

[Cidersomerset]

On the subject of movies , I saw the numbers Station a very good
espionage thriller.......


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and guess what it is set in a CIA facility in the UK..LOl..


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This thread has a lot of info on intelligence operations since WW11

Newspaper: CIA runs Al Qaeda , operation Gladio....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59641-Newspaper-CIA-runs-Al-Qaeda&p=685965#post685965

[turiya]

Outer Limits Episode Foresees Insidious Future of NSA

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/OUTER_LIMITS_O_B_I_T_smaller.png (http://archive.org/details/TheOuterLimits-Tos-1x07-O.b.i.t.avi_90)

Source (http://archive.org/details/TheOuterLimits-Tos-1x07-O.b.i.t.avi_90)

NSA PRISM Logo
http://www5.pcmag.com/media/images/324963-nsa-prism.jpg

turiya :cool:

[Cidersomerset]

Manning 2.0? Lawmakers demand 'harsh' probe against Snowden


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Published on 10 Jun 2013


The US criminal chase has begun - with top officials calling for Edward Snowden to
be prosecuted to the harshest extent of the law. The whistleblower himself doesn't
hold out much hope of escaping given his knowledge of how intelligence agencies
operate. Investigative journalist Tony Gosling told RT that it's time for some soul-
searching in Washington.

[Cidersomerset]

They talk quite a lot about 'whistleblowers' as well..............



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Published on 14 Dec 2012


Abby Martin talks to the Editor of Boiling Frogs Post and Founder of
the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, Sibel Edmonds, about
her story as a whistleblower and the erosion of civil liberties in a post 9/11 America.

[ThePythonicCow]

My question is, how have the elite and those in power benefited from the implementation of PRISM? Will they be able to gain financially by, for example, having access to information that may boost inside trading in the stockmarket?
My guess is that the stock market is already an almost pure game, for the amusement of small portion of the peons who still have positive net worth and delusions of belonging to the "upper middle class", and as another false indicator of how "healthy" the economy is.

I'd also guess that the primary value of the surveillance is in the control it enables ... like hunting buffalo herds on the open plains in the American midwest in the mid 1800's, which would have been much easier had they had aerial surveillance drones with 24 hour a day monitoring of all herds and the land they moved on.

This is an "information" war (as most wars are, at one level) and they know a heck of a lot more about us than we do of them. We're not even sure who "they" are.

[ThePythonicCow]

This revelation is not shocking to everyone here so the significance lies with this whistleblower being in the mainstream media.
Indeed. Here's a copy of a post I made here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59815-U.S.-data-mining-NSA-Ed-Snowden&p=685619&viewfull=1#post685619) yesterday.

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Drudge (http://drudgereport.com/), Zerohedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-09/nsa-whistleblower-reveals-himself) and Slashdot (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/06/09/1958200/nsa-whistleblower-outs-himself) are all leading with the story of Edward Snowden.

It is seldom I see all three of those major websites lead with the same story. Excellent coverage.

More "traditional" sources (which I don't routinely visit) are also covering this:

New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/10/us/former-cia-worker-says-he-leaked-surveillance-data.html?pagewanted=all)
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/intelligence-leaders-push-back-on-leakers-media/2013/06/09/fff80160-d122-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html)
New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/06/edward-snowden-the-nsa-leaker-comes-forward.html)
Newsday (http://www.newsday.com/news/world/edward-snowden-says-he-leaked-nsa-prism-info-1.5441953)
The Atlantic Wire (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/06/why-edward-snowden-leaked-secret-nsa-information/66041/)
Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/edward-snowden-leak-contractor-92472.html)
Christian Science Monitor (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0609/Edward-Snowden-NSA-leaker-reveals-himself-expects-retribution)
Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10109519/Edward-Snowden-famous-leakers-in-recent-history.html)
Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/09/edward-snowden-move-out-house-hawaii_n_3413117.html)

[bruno dante]

Questions in need of answers...


NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden’s story? (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/nsa-leaker-are-there-serious-cracks-in-ed-snowdens-story/)
By Jon Rappoport, June 10, 2013


First, I’m not doubting the documents Ed Snowden has brought forward. I’m not doubting the illegal reach of the NSA in spying on Americans and the world.

But as to how this recent revelation happened, and whether Ed Snowden’s history holds up…I have questions.

Could Snowden have been given extraordinary access to classified info as part of a larger scheme? Could he be a) an honest man and yet b) a guy who was set up to do what he’s doing now?

If b) is true, then Snowden fits the bill perfectly. He wants to do what he’s doing. He isn’t lying about that. He means what he says.

Okay. Let’s look at his history as reported by The Guardian.

In 2003, at age 19, without a high school diploma, Snowden enlists in the Army. He begins a training program to join the Special Forces. The sequence here is fuzzy. At what point after enlistment can a new soldier start this training program? Does he need to demonstrate some exceptional ability before Special Forces puts him in that program?

Snowden breaks both legs in a training exercise. He’s discharged from the Army. Is that automatic? How about healing and then resuming Army service? Just asking.

If he was accepted in the Special Forces training program because he had special computer skills, then why discharge him simply because he broke both legs?

Circa 2003 (?), Snowden gets a job as a security guard for an NSA facility at the University of Maryland. He specifically wanted to work for NSA? It was just a generic job opening he found out about?

Also in 2003 (?), Snowden shifts jobs. He’s now in the CIA, in IT. He has no high school diploma. He’s a young computer genius?

In 2007, Snowden is sent to Geneva. He’s only 23 years old. The CIA gives him diplomatic cover there. He’s put in charge of maintaining computer-network security. Major job. Obviously, he has access to a very wide range of classified documents. Sound a little odd? Again, just asking. He’s just a kid. Maybe he has his GED by now. Otherwise, he still doesn’t have a high school diploma.

Snowden says that during this period, in Geneva, one of the incidents that really sours him on the CIA is the “turning of a Swiss banker.” One night, CIA guys get a banker drunk, encourage him to drive home, the banker gets busted, the CIA guys help him out, then with that bond formed, they eventually get the banker to reveal deep banking secrets to the Agency.

Snowden is this naïve? He doesn’t know by now that the CIA does this sort of thing all the time? He’s shocked? He “didn’t sign up for this?”

In 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA. Why? Presumably because he’s disillusioned. It should noted here that Snowden claimed he could do very heavy damage to the entire US intelligence community in 2008, but decided to wait because he thought Obama, just coming into the presidency, might make good changes.

After two years with the CIA in Geneva, Snowden really had the capability to take down the whole US intelligence network, or a major chunk of it? He had that much access to classified data?

Anyway, in 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA and goes to work for a private defense contractor. Apparently, by this time, he knows all about the phony US war in Iraq, and yet he chooses to work for a sector that relentlessly promotes such wars. Go figure.

This defense contractor (unnamed) assigns him to work at an NSA facility in Japan. Surely, Snowden understands what the NSA is. He knows it’s a key part of the whole military-intelligence network, the network he opposes.

But he takes the job anyway. Perhaps he’s doing it so he can obtain further access to classified data, in advance of blowing a big whistle. Perhaps.

Snowden goes on to work for two private defense contractors, Dell and Booze Allen Hamilton. In this latter job, Snowden is again assigned to work at the NSA.

He’s an outsider, but he claims to have so much sensitive NSA data that he can take down the whole US intelligence network in a single day. Hmm.

These are red flags. They raise questions. Serious ones.

If The Guardian, which has such close access to Snowden, wants to explore these questions, they might come up with some interesting answers.

Again, I’m not doubting that the documents Snowden has brought forward are real. I have to assume they are. I certainly don’t doubt the reach and the power and the criminality of the NSA.

Although I’m sure someone will write me and say I’m defending the NSA. I’M NOT.
But if Snowden was maneuvered, in his career, without his knowing it, to arrive at just this point, then we have a whole new story. We have a story about unknown forces who wanted this exposure to occur.

Who would these forces be? I could make lots of guesses. But they would just be guesses.

Perhaps all the anomalies in the career of Ed Snowden can be explained with sensible answers. I realize that. But until they are, I put the questions forward. And leave them there.

Jon Rappoport


It's an interesting article, (thanks for posting) but why would the C.I.A. go through all that circuitous nonsense to place a guy in a position where he may or may not have released the files, when all they had to do was release them themselves and blame an anonymous "leaker"? Seems a lot of work to do something they could have easily done themselves...minus all the pageantry. The C.I.A. has been known to involve unknowing individuals in convoluted and highly bizarre schemes to advance their agenda, but I just don't see it here.

I don't think Snowden was necessarily naïve. He was very aware of some of the more nefarious goings-on within the C.I.A. (he discusses this in the interview) and said something to the effect that those around him would sort of quickly brush off discussion of it if it arose in conversation. The impression he gives, to me anyway, is that when things become commonplace, however unconscionable they may be, people get used to them and accept them as the norm.

[ghostrider]

We need the entire population to stand between him and the NSA , and say enough ...

[Roisin]

Questions in need of answers...


NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden’s story? (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/nsa-leaker-are-there-serious-cracks-in-ed-snowdens-story/)
By Jon Rappoport, June 10, 2013


First, I’m not doubting the documents Ed Snowden has brought forward. I’m not doubting the illegal reach of the NSA in spying on Americans and the world.

But as to how this recent revelation happened, and whether Ed Snowden’s history holds up…I have questions.

Could Snowden have been given extraordinary access to classified info as part of a larger scheme? Could he be a) an honest man and yet b) a guy who was set up to do what he’s doing now?

If b) is true, then Snowden fits the bill perfectly. He wants to do what he’s doing. He isn’t lying about that. He means what he says.

Okay. Let’s look at his history as reported by The Guardian.

In 2003, at age 19, without a high school diploma, Snowden enlists in the Army. He begins a training program to join the Special Forces. The sequence here is fuzzy. At what point after enlistment can a new soldier start this training program? Does he need to demonstrate some exceptional ability before Special Forces puts him in that program?

Snowden breaks both legs in a training exercise. He’s discharged from the Army. Is that automatic? How about healing and then resuming Army service? Just asking.

If he was accepted in the Special Forces training program because he had special computer skills, then why discharge him simply because he broke both legs?

Circa 2003 (?), Snowden gets a job as a security guard for an NSA facility at the University of Maryland. He specifically wanted to work for NSA? It was just a generic job opening he found out about?

Also in 2003 (?), Snowden shifts jobs. He’s now in the CIA, in IT. He has no high school diploma. He’s a young computer genius?

In 2007, Snowden is sent to Geneva. He’s only 23 years old. The CIA gives him diplomatic cover there. He’s put in charge of maintaining computer-network security. Major job. Obviously, he has access to a very wide range of classified documents. Sound a little odd? Again, just asking. He’s just a kid. Maybe he has his GED by now. Otherwise, he still doesn’t have a high school diploma.

Snowden says that during this period, in Geneva, one of the incidents that really sours him on the CIA is the “turning of a Swiss banker.” One night, CIA guys get a banker drunk, encourage him to drive home, the banker gets busted, the CIA guys help him out, then with that bond formed, they eventually get the banker to reveal deep banking secrets to the Agency.

Snowden is this naïve? He doesn’t know by now that the CIA does this sort of thing all the time? He’s shocked? He “didn’t sign up for this?”

In 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA. Why? Presumably because he’s disillusioned. It should noted here that Snowden claimed he could do very heavy damage to the entire US intelligence community in 2008, but decided to wait because he thought Obama, just coming into the presidency, might make good changes.

After two years with the CIA in Geneva, Snowden really had the capability to take down the whole US intelligence network, or a major chunk of it? He had that much access to classified data?

Anyway, in 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA and goes to work for a private defense contractor. Apparently, by this time, he knows all about the phony US war in Iraq, and yet he chooses to work for a sector that relentlessly promotes such wars. Go figure.

This defense contractor (unnamed) assigns him to work at an NSA facility in Japan. Surely, Snowden understands what the NSA is. He knows it’s a key part of the whole military-intelligence network, the network he opposes.

But he takes the job anyway. Perhaps he’s doing it so he can obtain further access to classified data, in advance of blowing a big whistle. Perhaps.

Snowden goes on to work for two private defense contractors, Dell and Booze Allen Hamilton. In this latter job, Snowden is again assigned to work at the NSA.

He’s an outsider, but he claims to have so much sensitive NSA data that he can take down the whole US intelligence network in a single day. Hmm.

These are red flags. They raise questions. Serious ones.

If The Guardian, which has such close access to Snowden, wants to explore these questions, they might come up with some interesting answers.

Again, I’m not doubting that the documents Snowden has brought forward are real. I have to assume they are. I certainly don’t doubt the reach and the power and the criminality of the NSA.

Although I’m sure someone will write me and say I’m defending the NSA. I’M NOT.
But if Snowden was maneuvered, in his career, without his knowing it, to arrive at just this point, then we have a whole new story. We have a story about unknown forces who wanted this exposure to occur.

Who would these forces be? I could make lots of guesses. But they would just be guesses.

Perhaps all the anomalies in the career of Ed Snowden can be explained with sensible answers. I realize that. But until they are, I put the questions forward. And leave them there.

Jon Rappoport

It's not surprising that NSA, like all of those other alphabet agencies, is profiling their recruits. Hire uneducated young computer nerds because their only interest lies in computer tech. and coding but are quintessentially incurious about the real world around them because they only live in virtual ones. Snowden apparently matched that profile to a "T". That's why he was recruited.

[norman]

I am Manning and I am Snowden.

These are interesting moves but there is an important move that's not forthcoming, it seems, still.

All of these issues are protected by one single fake notion. That fake notion is the blanket threat of terrorism. It 'justifies' the tyrannical developments and justifies all those who leap to defend the state when these whistle blowers come forward with their evidence and testimony.

What Snowden has exposed may be a big revelation for masses of the population, but masses of the population still believe that "terrorism" is real. As long as they believe that, they will huddle up together and accept the government's case for being cough red handed building the web of tyranny in our midst.

The really big and important whistleblowing that still urgently needs to come is for someone like Snowden, with very privileged access, to come out with hard evidence of the intel agencies and governments direct involvment with directing major terrorist events around the world.

Such a disclosure will be a tidal change in the information war. Once the masses get their heads around the fact that their 'guardians' are really the terrorists, oh maaan, that really will put the cat among the pigeons.

After that, lights will be coming on inside heads so fast we'll all have to wear shades.

[ghostrider]

Snowden is going to be found dead, or have a nice little accident....or caught and crucified by the USG. The CIA are no doubt looking for him as well, they may use deadly force.

betcha they already know where he is and have two agents shadowing him now... they are probably in meetings on how to snuff him out without it leading back to them...ehummmm, should we use the heart attack, the car crash, or the lone gun man, or just drone the entire building and to hell with the collateral damage...or blame it on muslims and use it as reason to increase even more our need for spying , we could probably get a bill through the congress quickly on this one , somebody call George Bush SR he owes me a favor ...

[Roisin]

My question is, how have the elite and those in power benefited from the implementation of PRISM? Will they be able to gain financially by, for example, having access to information that may boost inside trading in the stockmarket?
My guess is that the stock market is already an almost pure game, for the amusement of small portion of the peons who still have positive net worth and delusions of belonging to the "upper middle class", and as another false indicator of how "healthy" the economy is.

I'd also guess that the primary value of the surveillance is in the control it enables ... like hunting buffalo herds on the open plains in the American midwest in the mid 1800's, which would have been much easier had they had aerial surveillance drones with 24 hour a day monitoring of all herds and the land they moved on.

This is an "information" war (as most wars are, at one level) and they know a heck of a lot more about us than we do of them. We're not even sure who "they" are.

Excellent points Paul! Thanks for commenting. Also....

Who are they? The information below is just one source of many that shows the tip of that iceberg...
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/board.asp?ticker=BAH

Insiders At Booz Allen Hamilton Holdings (BAH)

Ralph Shrader Ph.D. --- Chairman of The Board, Chief Executive Officer, President, Chairman of Executive Committee, Chairman of Nominating & Corporate Governance Committee, Chairman of The Board of Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp, Chief Executive Officer of Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp and President of Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp -- 67

John Mcconnell --- Vice Chairman and Executive Vice President -- 66

Samuel Strickland --- Chief Financial Officer, Chief Accounting Officer, Chief Administrative Officer, Executive Vice President and Director -- 61

Philip Odeen --- Director, Chairman of Compensation Committee and Member of Audit Committee -- 76

Other Board Members On Board*

Pierre Rodocanachi -- Active Starts 74
Mark Gaumond -- Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corporation 61
Peter Clare -- The Carlyle Group LP 47
Ian Fujiyama -- The Carlyle Group LP 39
Didier Pineau-Valencienne -- Sagard 81
Allan Holt -- The Carlyle Group LP 60
Arthur Johnson -- Lockheed Martin Tactical Systems, Inc. 65
Joan Amble -- Brown-Forman Corporation 59

[Cidersomerset]

Outer Limits Episode Foresees Insidious Future of NSA

Thanks turiya , nothing is knew.....Early TV take on multi dimentional
mind controlled entities, sounds very familier today,

[Another1]

I was near a teeeveee last night and skimmed through a few debates about whether he is hero or traitor ... it was rather sickening really

the thought kept coming to me that these alleged 'secrets' he has let loose are no different than what they were calling 'conspiracy theories' last week ... None of this is new info to any 'enemy' ... I don't see how he has endangered anyone but the liars who have denied doing this all these years

[Cidersomerset]

NSA leaks overshadow Bradley Manning trial


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Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H72xp0t_hIY




Published on 10 Jun 2013


Edward Snowden isn't the only whistleblower making headlines this week. In Ft.
Meade, Maryland, the military trial of Private first class Bradley Manning resumed
Monday, when Army prosecutors called a number of new witnesses to testify about
the intelligence analyst accused of the largest leak in US history. Manning is
accused of sharing sensitive military files with the website WikiLeaks, and his court-
martial finally began last week after more than 1,000 days of pretrial detainment.
RT's Liz Wahl reports from the base on the fourth day of the hearings.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden leaks show NSA 'routinely lies' to Congress

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Published on 10 Jun 2013


Over the weekend, The Guardian revealed that Edward Snowden was behind the
leaking of documents revealing the NSA's surveillance program on American
computer networks. The 29-year-old, who was formally employed by the Central
Intelligence Agency, divulged the information in hopes of giving the people the
power to decide whether or not these surveillance policies are right or wrong. David
Colapinto, legal director for the National Whistleblower Center, and Sharon Bradford
Franklin, senior counsel with The Constitution Project, give their thoughts on the
situation.

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New Yorkers rally in support of NSA whistleblower Snowden


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Published on 10 Jun 2013


Within a matter of days, The Guardian published a report detailing how the National
Security Agency was using its authority to spy on its own people and then revealed
that Edward Snowden was behind what some are calling the biggest leak since the
Pentagon Papers. According to Snowden, he wanted to make the people aware of
the agencies policies and dozens of people gathered to show support for the
whistleblower. The Resident's Lori Harfinest joins us with what people had to say
about the information leak

[Cidersomerset]

Obama killing US with PRISM

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Published on 11 Jun 2013


Watch the full episode 354 later on Tuesday!

In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert ask, "What is
Boundless Informant, PRISM, Trans-Pacific Partnership, SOPA, PIPA and ACTA if not
copyright prostitutes colluding and beating up the competition? Max also informs
President Barack Obama that a food stamp is NOT a job. In the second half, Max
talks to artist, Mark McGowan (aka The Artist Taxi Driver), about his pushing the
pig to Downing Street as an artistic response to the privatisation of the National
Health Service in the United Kingdom. They also discuss McGowan's crowd-funded
film currently in production, "This is Not a Recession, It's a Robbery!"

[Kimberley]

Please check this out it is only 3 minutes...


Obama 2007 Speech: NO More Spying On US Citizens

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Published on Jun 9, 2013

In his 2007 speech, Obama promises that citizens will no longer be spied on if he is elected as President. This is now proven to be more phony than ever with the release of new NSA PRISM documents that show the government is tracking your every move.

More proof to me that now puppet Obama had no clue what he was getting into. And for the record I like Obama, however I know the president's of the US have only been puppet figurheads as long as I have been alive anyway...
:peace:

[Carmody]

Please check this out it is only 3 minutes...


Obama 2007 Speech: NO More Spying On US Citizens

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Published on Jun 9, 2013

In his 2007 speech, Obama promises that citizens will no longer be spied on if he is elected as President. This is now proven to be more phony than ever with the release of new NSA PRISM documents that show the government is tracking your every move.

More proof to me that now puppet Obama had no clue what he was getting into. And for the record I like Obama, however I know the president's of the US have only been puppet figurheads as long as I have been alive anyway...
:peace:

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[onawah]

I think a lot of the Obama bashing is just more fear porn.
No matter the source, including disillusioned "Progressives", porn is porn.
It certainly doesn't get us any nearer to the truth.

[Kimberley]

I like Putin more and more...


Putin on NSA leak: Government surveillance shouldn’t break law

Published time: June 11, 2013 14:53

http://rt.com/news/putin-rt-visit-broadcasting-center-530/

This below is just an excerpt....the whole article is found at the above link..the rest of the article is about some other issues and it is interesting also...


Data surveillance is an acceptable measure if done within the law, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin told RT while visiting the channel in the capital.

“Such methods are in demand. But you can’t just listen to the phone call in Russia; you need a special order from court. This is how this should be done in civilized society while tackling terrorism with the use of any technical means. If it is in the framework of the law, then it’s ok. If not it is unacceptable,” Putin said answering the question of RT’s Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan. Commenting on Obama’s statement that “You can’t have 100 per cent security and 100 per cent privacy,” Putin disagreed, saying it is possible if done within the law.

Russia said it could consider the possibility of granting political asylum to 29-year-old Edward Snowden, if such request is made. The ex-CIA worker disclosed the existence of PRISM, the National Security Agency’s (NSA) massive data-mining surveillance program, to The Guardian.

“If we receive such a request, we will consider it,” President Vladimir Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov said.

The whereabouts of whistleblower remain unknown after he checked out of a Hong Kong hotel. A day earlier Snowden revealed his identity to The Guardian newspaper.

[norman]

One thing that doesn't sit right with me about this 'story' is that this Snowden guy is able to stay off the radar in Hong Kong even though we are told that we know he checked out of a hotel he's been staying in for 3 weeks.

I find it too unbelievable that the spy bosses don't know where he is, or can't grab him.

I'm beginning to think there is another dimension to this

[Cidersomerset]

Google speaks on snooping

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Published on 11 Jun 2013


In his first interview on British television,
jackie Long speaks to the chief legal officer
of Google, David Drummond - who's in
Amsterdam.

[Cidersomerset]

He told you so: Bill Binney talks NSA leaks

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Published on 11 Jun 2013


In the wake of multiple leaks regarding the data mining programs PRISM and
Boundless Informant, whistleblowers are coming out in droves to talk about the
unprecedented government surveillance on the American public. RT Correspondent
Meghan Lopez had a chance to sit down with NSA whistleblower William Binney to
talk about the latest developments coming out of the NSA case. Binney is a 32 year
veteran of the NSA, where he helped design a top secret program he says helps
collect data on foreign enemies. He is regarded as one of the best mathematicians
and code breakers in NSA history. He became an NSA whistleblower in 2002 when
he realized the program he helped create to spy no foreign enemies was being used
on Americans.

[Cidersomerset]

None of this is new........Just potentially more massive !!


All this is updating spying its always gone on and always will
until we get rid of elites. In the scene among other things Bobby
Kennedy confronts Hoover if he has been tapping the Presidents
phone, which he obviously was, although he got a look rather
than a verbal answer......


The Private Files of J. Edgar Hoover - A film by Larry Cohen

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Uploaded on 4 Nov 2011


Bobby Kennedy and J. Edgar Hoover scene.
The Private Files of J. Edgar Hoover is a 1977 film directed by Larry Cohen. It stars
Broderick Crawford and James Wainwright. The all star cast includes Jose Ferrer,
Michael Parks, Celeste Holm, Ronee Blakely, Tanya Roberts in a cameo role, and in
final screen appearances. Both Broderick Crawford and Dailey met with then First
Lady Betty Ford and helped director Cohen get permission to do the film's on
location cinematography in Washington, D.C., in locals where the real Hoover
visited or worked. The film was shown at the Kennedy Center in Washington to a
mixed response from Republicans and Democrats who did not like the dark visions
Cohen evoked on American politics and the portrayals of Presidents Franklin D.
Roosevelt and Richard M. Nixon: actor Howard Da Silva played Roosevelt,
and "Richard M. Dixon" plays Nixon. After it was shown in Washington, the film
took a limited nationwide release to theaters, and got a full release to video and
television into the 1980s and 1990s.

The film is a chronicle of forty years in the life of FBI Chief J. Edgar Hoover, starting
first in the time of Prohibition, as he enforced the law on gangsters like Dillinger.
Later, the Chief comes up against the Red Scare of the 1950s, the Kennedys, the
wave of change in the 1960s, and his hatred of Dr. Martin Luther King. Examined
here is the allegation that he had an abnormal sexual life.

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Part of intelligence gathering for the elites to stay in power is blackmail
on the 1 % to keep them in line starting in collage with fraternaties
like Scull and Bones etc or the 'Fagging' system at public schools..

This is interesting....the CIA spying on Hoover ...LOl..

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Uploaded on 28 May 2007


Clip concerning Hoover seeking a psychiatrist regarding his sexuality. Anthony
Summers comments. Later comments on several people who had seen the Hoover
photograph,Joseph Shimon of the Washington Police comments on 'sexparties with
no girls'.Lansky had obtained photographs of Hoover in a 'compromising' position.

Gordon Novel claims to have seen the photograph, and also claims Carlos Marcello
had seen it, and in fact used it to control Hoover.Peter Pitchess,former FBI agent
comments on the non existant mafia. Also does former FBI agent Neil Welch and
William Turner.Clip with Robert Kennedy and a statement regarding the mafia.
More on his take at the mafia in a clip with their take on Hoffa. Comments by
Robert Blakey.

Clip from questioning of mob-informant Joe Valacci. Robert Kennedy took upon the
mafia when Hoover had refused to even acknowledge its existence.

[Cidersomerset]

Obama admin leads 'worldwide manhunt' for NSA leaker Snowden

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Published on 11 Jun 2013


Days after the name Edward Snowden made headlines for being the source behind
one of the most significant leaks involving the National Security Agency's
surveillance of Americans, the former employee of the CIA has gone into hiding.
The whistleblower, who some are calling a hero, has been fired for violating his
company's code of ethics and now the Obama administration is on the hunt for the
leaker. Many believe that Snowden's fate has already been determined and Michael
Brooks, producer for The Majority Report, and Jesselyn Raddack with the
Government Accountability Project, weigh in on the Obama administration's hunt
for the Snowden.

[Cidersomerset]

Julian Assange: "Edward Snowden, Prism Leaker Is A Hero".

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[Kimberley]

Whistleblower who leaked NSA files disappears

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And for some comic relief ... that Jackovesk posted in another thread today...

A Letter to the New World Order: Dear NSA

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[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Kimberly good vid........Maybe Edward saw Julians add....

http://jakemcmillan.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/flatmate-wanted.jpg?w=500

That specifically means NSA & NWO ....NUTJOBS......Do Not Apply...

[Cidersomerset]

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Rise of the idealistic nerd

US President Barack Obama in San Jose, California 7 June 2013 President Obama
said the surveillance programme was strictly monitored by lawmakers and a secret
court

US President Barack Obama says he welcomes a debate about the right balance
between privacy and security. That is good, because it will rage for a long while.
I suspect many in his administration are not quite so pleased about this public
airing of secrets, but there is nothing now that can put the genie back in the bottle.
It is not only the raw debate that will grow. So will the argument about whether the
people behind the leaks are heroes or villains.

It strikes me that the revelations made by ex-CIA employee Edward Snowden are
of a piece with those of US soldier Bradley Manning when he gave a vast stash of
US documents to the website Wikileaks.Neither are leaks in the old sense - of a
single, sensational story about a particularly scandalous operation.

Edward Snowden said he "did not want to live in a society that does these sorts of things"

Instead they are, at heart, about the breadth and depth of intelligence gathering
and how the internet changes spying itself. It is also about two young men who
were horrified by what they saw going on and decided to expose it - in the words of
my colleague, Paul Adams, "the rise of the idealistic nerd."

It is probable that as the technology changed, intelligence services had to hugely
increase the number of fairly low-level experts they employ. Possibly, their
background checks were less rigorous than in the past. Maybe the type of person
recruited was more committed to a technology that has gone hand in hand with a
vaguely libertarian ethos than a commitment to national security, whatever the
implications for privacy and freedom.

It is not certain how this will play for Mr Obama, but it does not look great.

It is true that it runs against the right's narrative: "Obama is weak on national security."

Once again, as with drones, he has shown himself to be rather ruthless with the niceties.

On the other hand, it plays right in to the hands of another conservative
narrative: "President Obama expands the power of the state."

Given that it comes on top of the tax scandal at the Internal Revenue Service, and
the raid on the Associated Press, it builds up a picture of an administration that
plays fast and lose with civil liberties.This resonates with the president's own
natural supporters as well, and those on the left who feel "he is just as bad as
former President George W Bush". It adds to the general feeling of cynicism about
politicians and suspicion of the power of the state.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22846015

[Cidersomerset]

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Snowden vs Manning: tale of two whistleblowers

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Published on 11 Jun 2013


Whistleblowers Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden have both similarities and
differences that are noteworthy. Both men who exposed leaks In comparing
whistleblowers Private Bradley Manning and Ex Booz Allen Hamilton employee
Edward Snow, the two have a lot in common. These two men are similar in some
superficial ways: their young ages, middle-class backgrounds, But let's go below
the surface. The most crucial similarity- both experienced a catalyst moment that
led to their decisions to expose "secrets" these secrets. RT's Margaret Howell
examine what they have in common.

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Assange on NSA leak: Snowden will be prosecuted for years (EXCLUSIVE



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Published on 11 Jun 2013


The ex-CIA man who blew the lid off America's vast NSA public
surveillance net - is promising more explosive revelations.
Edward Snowden's supporters are mobilizing too - with tens
of thousands signing a petition to pardon the whistleblower.
With us now, a man who knows what it's like to blow the
whistle in a big way, and incur the wrath of Washington -
Julian Assange. He joins talks to RT via broadband from the
Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

[Cidersomerset]

This is amusing for people of my generation...LOL..

A sign of the times that Putin can take the moral
ground on surveillance......i'm sure Russian intelligence
is not far behind..LOl..


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Published on 11 Jun 2013


"If surveillance is in the framework of the law, then it's ok.
If not it is unacceptable. You can't just listen to the phone
call in Russia; you need a special order from court," Putin
said answering the question of RT's Editor-in-Chief
Margarita Simonyan. Commenting on Obama's statement
that "You can't have 100 per cent security and 100 per cent
privacy," Putin disagreed, saying it is possible if done within
the law.

[Cidersomerset]

The Resident: US govt has ALWAYS surveilled us

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Published on 12 Jun 2013


The world was hit with a one-two punch of the US government
surveilling innocent citizens recently. First it was the Verizon
phone records collection, and second was PRISM. But the US
has always spied on its citizens, so we shouldn't be surprised
by these latest cases. The Resident (aka Lori Harfenist) walks
through the US' long history of citizen surveillance.

[Muzz]

27 Quotes from Edward-

#1 “The majority of people in developed countries spend at least some time interacting with the Internet, and Governments are abusing that necessity in secret to extend their powers beyond what is necessary and appropriate.”

#2 “…I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents.”

#3 “The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to.”

#4 “…I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.”

#5 “The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything.”

#6 “With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your e-mails or your wife’s phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.”

#7 “Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere… I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President…”

#8 “To do that, the NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that’s the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government, or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting YOUR communications to do so.”

#9 “I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinized most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.”

#10 “…they are intent on making every conversation and every form of behavior in the world known to them.”

#11 “Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re being watched and recorded. …it’s getting to the point where you don’t have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life.”

#12 “Allowing the U.S. government to intimidate its people with threats of retaliation for revealing wrongdoing is contrary to the public interest.”

#13 “Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state.”

#14 “I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under.”

#15 “I don’t want to live in a world where there’s no privacy, and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity.”

#16 “I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong.”

#17 “I had been looking for leaders, but I realized that leadership is about being the first to act.”

#18 “There are more important things than money. If I were motivated by money, I could have sold these documents to any number of countries and gotten very rich.”

#19 “The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won’t be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things… And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it’s only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that… because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny.”

#20 “I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant.”

#21 “You can’t come up against the world’s most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk.”

#22 “I know the media likes to personalize political debates, and I know the government will demonize me.”

#23 “We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week. And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be.”

#24 “I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end.”

#25 “There’s no saving me.”

#26 “The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won’t be able to help any more. That’s what keeps me up at night.”

#27 “I do not expect to see home again.”

source (http://silverdoctors.com/27-edward-snowden-quotes-about-u-s-government-spying-that-should-send-a-chill-up-your-spine/)

[Earth Angel]

and now his girlfriend .....a professional pole dancer.....has come out saying really helpful things like:


"As I type this on my tear-streaked keyboard I’m reflecting on all the faces that have graced my path," Mills continued. "The ones I laughed with. The ones I’ve held. The one I’ve grown to love the most. And the ones I never got to bid adieu. But sometimes life doesn’t afford proper goodbyes.
Surely there will be villainous pirates, distracting mermaids, and tides of change in this new open water chapter of my journey," Mills—who refers to Snowden as "E" and herself as a "world-traveling, pole-dancing super hero"—added. "But at the moment all I can feel is alone.""

It would seem she doesn't quite get the gravity of the situation.....Pole-dancing super hero or not, they will kill people who were close to him......

something about her does not seem to me like she would be Snowden's type , and perhaps she has been arranged to reduce his credibility ??

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/snowden-girlfriend-nsa-mills-photos-131840670.html

[Anchor]

Saw this on reddit earlier

http://i.imgur.com/oJBHnAP.jpg

Someone commented

"That's Candidate Obama, not to be confused with President Obama. Two very different people."

Someone else found the speech its from:

TOPIC: Homeland Security
December 15, 2005
Senate Floor Statement of Senator Barack Obama
The PATRIOT Act
Complete Text

Four years ago, following the most devastating attack in our history, this body passed the USA PATRIOT Act in order to give our nation's law enforcement the tools they need to track down terrorists who plot and lurk within our own borders and all over the world - terrorists who, right now, are looking to exploit weaknesses in our laws and our security to carry out even deadlier attacks than we saw on September 11th.

We all agree that we needed legislation to make it harder for suspected terrorists to go undetected in this country. And we all agree we needed to make it harder for them to organize and strategize and get flight licenses and sneak across our borders. Americans everywhere wanted that.

But soon after the PATRIOT Act passed, a few years before I ever arrived in the Senate, I began hearing concerns from people of every background and political leaning that this law - the very purpose of which was to protect us - was also threatening to violate our rights and freedoms as Americans. That it didn't just provide law enforcement the powers it needed to keep us safe, but powers it didn't need to invade our privacy without cause or suspicion.

In Washington, this issue has tended degenerate into an "either-or" type debate. Either we protect our people from terror or we protect our most cherished principles. But that is a false choice. It asks too little of us and assumes too little about America.

That's why as it's come time to reauthorize this law, we've been working in a bipartisan way to do both - to show the American people that we can track down terrorists without trampling on our civil liberties. To show the American people that the federal government will only issue warrants and execute searches because it needs to, not because it can. What we have been trying to achieve, under the leadership of a bipartisan group of Senators, is some accountability in this process - to get answers and see evidence where there is suspicion.

Several weeks ago, this work bore fruit. The Judiciary Committee and the U.S. Senate managed to pass a piece of bi-partisan legislation that, while I can't say is perfect, was able to address many of these most serious problems in the existing law.

Unfortunately, that strong bi-partisan legislation has been tossed aside in Conference. Instead, we have been forced to consider a piece of rushed legislation that fails to address the concerns of members of both parties as well as the American people.

This is legislation that puts our own Justice Department above the law. When National Security Letters are issued, they allow federal agents to conduct any search on any American, no matter how extensive or wide-ranging, without ever going before a judge to prove that the search is necessary. They simply need sign-off from a local FBI official. That's all.

Once a business or a person receives notification that they will be searched, they are prohibited from telling anyone about it, and they are even prohibited from challenging this automatic gag order in court. Even though judges have already found that similar restrictions violate the First Amendment - this Conference Report disregards the case law and the right to challenge the gag order.

If you do decide to consult an attorney for legal advice - you have to tell the FBI that you have done so. This is unheard of - there is no such requirement in any other area of law, and I don't see why it is justified here.

And if someone wants to know why their own government has decided to go on a fishing expedition through every personal record or private document - through library books they've read and phone calls they've made - this legislation gives people no rights to appeal the need for such a search in a court of law. No judge will hear their plea, no jury will hear their case.

This is just plain wrong.

Giving law enforcement the tools they need to investigate suspicious activity is one thing - and it's the right thing - but doing it without any real oversight seriously jeopardizes the rights of all Americans and the ideals America stands for.

Supporters of this Conference Report have argued that we should just hold our noses and support the legislation, because it's not going to get any better. That does not convince me that I should support this report. I believe we owe it to the nation to do whatever we can to make this legislation better. We don't have to settle for a PATRIOT Act that sacrifices our liberties or our safety - we can have one that secures both.

There have been proposals on both sides of Congress, from both parties, to extend the PATRIOT Act for three months so that we can reach agreement on this bill. I support those efforts and will oppose cloture on this unacceptable Conference Report.

[sdv]

A very interesting debate from Democracy Now:


On “Democracy Now!” on Wednesday morning, Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges debated University of Chicago law professor Geoffrey Stone—the man who hired Barack Obama to teach constitutional law at that school and later served as the president’s informal adviser—on the question of whether NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden is a hero or a traitor.

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/chris_hedges_on_edward_snowden_hero_or_traitor_20130612/

[dim]

Snowden is going to be found dead, or have a nice little accident....or caught and crucified by the USG. The CIA are no doubt looking for him as well, they may use deadly force.

As they did with Assange ?
they hardly need to do anything at all
we will revert to our sleep so fast that it will be as if like nothing happened
isn't that the case always ?
watch how fast this thread will vanish to oblivion after the initial excitement,
it will be old news tomorrow.
Nobody really wants change, none wants to sacrifice the couch.

[Hervé]

A guess... more or less educated:

So... since this taping of people's communication started with "Echelon" and has been going since... how come the communications between Snowden and the Guardian weren't intercepted? And, if they were, then it was allowed to go on...

Hence a hint of psyop... NSA will receive a slap on the wrist and swear not to do it again... etc... and they'll probably stick to their word since they don't need it anymore...

Why?

They can now tap directly from one's brain: see http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan
... that's what their super-hyper-mega-gigantic facility in Utah is there for.

[ViralSpiral]

Since so much work is being done behind the scenes, it certainly is hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Whatever the motives, whether he is a hero or traitor.... the veils of transparency are lifting, and for that I could be grateful. 'Could' because I also think this will be accompanied by desperate measures which may have huge detrimental ripple effects.

At least people are asking..... (02:00 specifically)



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Hope super-hyper-mega-gigantic facility in Utah is listening :)

[Cidersomerset]

Big Phish: Snowden's leaks could be just tip of iceberg


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Published on 17 Jun 2013


The revelations of the G20 spying come as the scandal
caused by Snowden's earlier disclosures - on the extent
of US surveillance after its own and foreign citizens -
is gaining momentum. Dozens of lawsuits are being filed
against the government's practices - while many lawmakers
continue to defend the operation. It has also emerged
that the scope of the surveillance - and the help it received
from corporations - may have been underestimated.

[Prodigal Son]

Fed Freaks On Plane - Reveals Snowden Is Still An Asset

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[jagman]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but Bill O'reilly Interviewed
CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson last night.
Apparently her CBS computer and her home computer were hacked into.
At that time she was working on several stories including
the Fast & Furious, Benghazi etc.. Stories that portray
the Obama administration in a negative light. hmmm



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLwqCT5hJPs

[Cidersomerset]

NSA whistleblower Snowden promises more leaks during live chat

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Published on 17 Jun 2013


It has been a little over a week since the The Guardian revealed that Edward Snowden
was behind on of the most significant leaks in US history. Snowden exposed how the
NSA's surveillance program had infiltrated American computer networks without anyone
knowing, but the agency said spying has foiled several terror plots worldwide. On Monday,
the leaker was live chatting on the Internet with people and gave more insight on the
NSA program and said there is much more info to come. RT's Sam Sacks brings us up to speed.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden: Truth is coming, US draconian responses build better whistleblowers

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Published on 17 Jun 2013


The threat of imprisonment or murder will
not stop the truth from coming out, Edward
Snowden, the whistleblower who blew the lid
on the massive National Security Agency
surveillance program, told the Guardian in
a live Q&A

[Cidersomerset]

NSA Leaks: US spied on frmr President Medvedev at 2009 G20 summit

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Published on 17 Jun 2013


As Britain readies to host the G8 summit, the documents
uncovered by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden have
revealed that back in 2009 US spies intercepted top-secret
communications of then Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev,
during his visit to London.

[Cidersomerset]

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Edward Snowden's father asks him to stop leaking

Lonnie Snowden asks his son to 'measure what you're going to do' but says he
disagrees with the US surveillance

Helen Davidson

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guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 18 June 2013 04.10 BST


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Lonnie Snowden holding up a picture of Edward SnowdenLonnie Snowden holding
up a picture of Edward Snowden. Photograph: Fox News


The father of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has pleaded with his son to stop
leaking information and to return home to the US, even if he faces a jail sentence.

Snowden, a 29-year-old former NSA contractor, is in hiding in Hong Kong after
admitting to the most significant leak of classified US information in decades.

Lonnie Snowden sought to dispel rumours such as his son being a “high school
dropout” during an interview with Fox News, which he also used to send a message
to his son:

“We want you to be safe, we want you to be happy, but I know you’re your own
man and you’re going to do what you feel that you have to do,” he said.

“I believe firmly that you are a man of principle. I believe in your character. I don’t
know what you’ve seen, but I just ask that you measure what you’re going to do
and not release any more information.”

Snowden also spoke of his concerns for his son and the way he was being talked
about in the media.

“I'm here because I'm really concerned about the misinformation in the media. He
is a sensitive, caring young man. This is the Ed that I know,” said Snowden.

“He just is a deep thinker.”

The interview with Fox journalist Eric Bolling has not aired in full, but several clips
have been released.Speaking on the TV show Fox & Friends, Bolling said Snowden
was concerned for his other children, and wanted to preserve their privacy.
Snowden also said he disagreed with the surveillance actions of the US government
and security agencies, which his son revealed by leaking classified NSA documents
to the Guardian.

"I don't want them reading my email," said Snowden.

"I don't want them reading my text. In my opinion they have no right. Not even
under the guise of ‘Oh we need to keep you safe’.

"If we say, ‘Oh my gosh we're going to have to sacrifice our freedom because of
the threat of terrorism,’ well then the terrorists have already won because it's our
freedoms that make us Americans."

In a live Q&A with Guardian readers from a secret location in Hong Kong, Edward
Snowden hinted that there was more information to come.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...r-stop-leaking

[Cidersomerset]

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Glenn Greenwald on security and liberty


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Edward Snowden: NSA whistleblower answers reader questions

The whistleblower behind the biggest intelligence leak in NSA history
answered your questions about the NSA surveillance revelations




guardian.co.uk, Monday 17 June 2013 20.31 BST

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Edward Snowden Hong KongThe NSA leaker, Edward Snowden, pictured in a Hong
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower


Edward Snowden Q&A


It is the interview the world's media organisations have been chasing for more than
a week, but instead Edward Snowden is giving Guardian readers the exclusive.

The 29-year-old former NSA contractor and source of the Guardian's NSA files
coverage will – with the help of Glenn Greenwald – take your questions today on
why he revealed the NSA's top-secret surveillance of US citizens, the international
storm that has ensued, and the uncertain future he now faces. Ask him anything.

Snowden, who has fled the US, told the Guardian he "does not expect to see home
again", but where he'll end up has yet to be determined.

He will be online today from 11am ET/4pm BST today. An important caveat: the
live chat is subject to Snowden's security concerns and also his access to a secure
internet connection. It is possible that he will appear and disappear intermittently,
so if it takes him a while to get through the questions, please be patient.

To participate, post your question below and recommend your favorites. As he
makes his way through the thread, we'll embed his replies as posts in the live blog.
You can also follow along on Twitter using the hashtag #AskSnowden.

We expect the site to experience high demand so we'll re-publish the Q&A in full
after the live chat has finished.

Read More....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower

[norman]

Snowden's past has started surfacing.

At age 17 he was a member of arstechnica forum, using the name "The True HOOHA".

His signature at the time was:

" Real programmers never die, they just GOSUB with no RETURN "


SOURCE:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...-ars-technica/ (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/nsa-leaker-ed-snowdens-life-on-ars-technica/)

[Cidersomerset]

'US pushes smear campaign against Snowden to distract from NSA leak'

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Published on 18 Jun 2013


Edward Snowden's revelations had already led to some tension between the US and
China. Beijing has demanded that Washington explain its surveillance program and
cyber spying to the international community.

James Corbett, editor of an independent news website the Corbett Report, says
further damage to relations between the two countries is inevitable

[Cidersomerset]

'Yes We Scan': Anti-wiretap activists protest as Obama visits Germany

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Published on 19 Jun 2013


President Obama's reception in the German capital, where he is on a whirlwind
visit, could have been warmer. Demonstrators in Berlin showed what they felt
about the revelations of Washington's widespread surveillance program - of which
Germany was among the top targets. RT's Peter Oliver went to take a look.

[Openmindedskeptic]

Don't forget to sign the White House petition to get Edward Snowden pardoned (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snowden/Dp03vGYD). When it hits 100,000 signatures President Obama will have no choice but to address the issue. It's already up to 85,624 signatures at the time of this posting.

[turiya]

Outer Limits Episode Foresees Insidious Future of NSA

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/OUTER_LIMITS_O_B_I_T_smaller.png (http://archive.org/details/TheOuterLimits-Tos-1x07-O.b.i.t.avi_90)

Source (http://archive.org/details/TheOuterLimits-Tos-1x07-O.b.i.t.avi_90)


Chris Thomas Confirms NSA Using Alien Technology w/ Psychic Attacks

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/Chris_Thomas/CHRIS_THOMAS_OYR_06162013_NSA_Psychic_Attack_excerpt.mp3

turiya :cool:

[Dennis Leahy]

These are interesting moves but there is an important move that's not forthcoming, it seems, still.

All of these issues are protected by one single fake notion. That fake notion is the blanket threat of terrorism. It 'justifies' the tyrannical developments and justifies all those who leap to defend the state when these whistle blowers come forward with their evidence and testimony.

What Snowden has exposed may be a big revelation for masses of the population, but masses of the population still believe that "terrorism" is real. As long as they believe that, they will huddle up together and accept the government's case for being cough red handed building the web of tyranny in our midst.

The really big and important whistleblowing that still urgently needs to come is for someone like Snowden, with very privileged access, to come out with hard evidence of the intel agencies and governments direct involvment with directing major terrorist events around the world.

Such a disclosure will be a tidal change in the information war. Once the masses get their heads around the fact that their 'guardians' are really the terrorists, oh maaan, that really will put the cat among the pigeons.

After that, lights will be coming on inside heads so fast we'll all have to wear shades.

100% agreement. Well said.

Dennis

[Openmindedskeptic]

Here's a serious question; will you be okay when the NSA data-mines all your communications and labels you "a subversive" because you use words like freedom, liberty and free speech? With the highly sophisticated algorithms that exist today, along with PRISM, the FBI can literally neutralize the next Martin Luther King Jr. long before he ever gains any serious traction or even himself realizes he's an activists. Yeah, it's Minority Report only the precognition mumbo-jumbo has been replaced with real-world practical science.

[bogeyman]

The thing that's on my mind is what are the terrorist as well as others, doing now they know their communications are being monitored? After all Bin Laden communications were monitored until this fact has published in a newspaper, and his communications were cut off as a result.

[MadMax1]

It is starting to make me wonder what they think of sites like this surely they would be monitering what we say on here to keep up to date on what we are discussing, what does everyone else think of that? i for one don't give a rats bum if they see what i am saying i have not broke any laws in my statements. I am not saying it's ok to check every little bit of data in the internet but surely they must moniter these sort of sites to see what we are saying about them and i'm sure that is how they keep staying 3 steps ahead of us.

[Cidersomerset]

Obama administration charge Edward Snowden with espionage

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Published on 21 Jun 2013


US officials have charged NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden with espionage. They
told the Washington Post that federal prosecutors filed a sealed criminal complaint
against the now 30-year-old who handed over a series of government documents to
the media revealing secret NSA surveillance programs. He has also been charged
with theft and conversion of government property. RT's Political Commentator Sam
Sacks and Abby Martin, Host of Breaking the Set have had their say on what these
charges mean for Snowden.

[Cidersomerset]

Leaked: UK spy agency has access to global communications, shares info with

-bC5eKC44dw

Published on 21 Jun 2013


The British spy agency GCHQ has access to the global network of communications,
storing calls, Facebook posts and internet histories -- and shares this data with the
NSA, Edward Snowden has revealed to the Guardian in a new leak

[Prodigal Son]

It is starting to make me wonder what they think of sites like this surely they would be monitering what we say on here to keep up to date on what we are discussing, what does everyone else think of that? i for one don't give a rats bum if they see what i am saying i have not broke any laws in my statements. I am not saying it's ok to check every little bit of data in the internet but surely they must moniter these sort of sites to see what we are saying about them and i'm sure that is how they keep staying 3 steps ahead of us.
The handwriting is on the wall. I'm pretty sure this is what they have planned for us....

Why Did the U.S. Government Recently Purchase 30,000 Guillotines? (http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines/)

This information needs to get out to everyone NOW.

[jiminii]

It is starting to make me wonder what they think of sites like this surely they would be monitering what we say on here to keep up to date on what we are discussing, what does everyone else think of that? i for one don't give a rats bum if they see what i am saying i have not broke any laws in my statements. I am not saying it's ok to check every little bit of data in the internet but surely they must moniter these sort of sites to see what we are saying about them and i'm sure that is how they keep staying 3 steps ahead of us.
The handwriting is on the wall. I'm pretty sure this is what they have planned for us....

Why Did the U.S. Government Recently Purchase 30,000 Guillotines? (http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/why-did-the-u-s-government-recently-purchase-30000-guillotines/)

This information needs to get out to everyone NOW.

I have known about the guillotines for more than a year ... this girl who knew about it met a soldier who was at some base she knew about .. and asked him if he saw the guillotines and he said yes ... then she told him what they were going to be used for and he was shocked ... went back to tell his buddies .. next he called her .. told her there was a man hunt for him ... and he was afraid they will find him and kill him ... for what he knew.

jim

[Tesseract]

Snowden charged with spying, Manning 3 years in prison, Assange under siege in the embassy...

Meanwhile the Enron CEO just paid $40m to get his sentence cut by 10 years:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jun/21/enron-jeff-skilling-sentence-reduced

#inversejustice

[Chester]

The Guardian, after several days of interviews, is revealing his identity at his request.
From the moment he decided to disclose numerous top-secret documents to the public,
he was determined not to opt for the protection of anonymity. "I have no intention of
hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong," he said.


Read More...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

Remember The Falcon and the Snow Man?

This time its the Snowden man... haha, the clues are so obvious now. Its R6 playing out it's game and doing it right out in the open and in full blown in plain sight - for those who can see.

[PurpleLama]

Snowden is a member of Yossarian's flight during a mission, and acts as catalyst for the fundamental change in Yossarian's mentality and outlook. After their plane takes heavy anti-aircraft fire, Snowden is mortally wounded and Yossarian attempts to come to Snowden's aid by treating a serious leg wound with white bandages and sulfanilamide powder.

Eventually Yossarian notices bleeding from Snowden's armpit and realises he has another wound below his flak suit. As Yossarian rips open the flak suit, a fatal wound beneath exposes Snowden's internal organs which fall out onto the floor. A huge chunk of flak had ripped straight through his ribs from behind. Yossarian is horrified at the sight. Snowden is about to die, but is able to tell Yossarian he is cold. Yossarian covers Snowden in a parachute, and comforts him by saying "there, there".

Snowden's death embodies Yossarian's desire to evade death; by seeing Snowden's entrails spilling over the plane, he feels that "Man was matter, that was Snowden's secret. Drop him out a window and he'll fall. Set fire to him and he'll burn. Bury him and he'll rot, like other kinds of garbage. The spirit gone, man is garbage."

The experience on the plane dramatically changes Yossarian's attitude towards life. He looks only to protect his own life and, to a lesser extent, the lives of his close friends. Yossarian turns against the military and refuses to wear a uniform, his justification being he simply "doesn't want to," perhaps because he was traumatized and depressed by Snowden's death. The excuse Captain Korn gives to General Dreedle is that Snowden died in one uniform, and his remains were soaked into Yossarian's, and all of Yossarian's other articles of clothing were in the laundry. General Dreedle says "That sounds like a lot of crap to me." Yossarian replies, "It is a lot of crap, sir."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yossarian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22

[Chester]

Hi Reilly - there are no coincidences - How ironic. The Catch-22 "Snowden"... what a metaphor. Surely, Edward Snowden saw the movie and/or read the book. And his life ends up as a sacrifice. wow

[norman]

A very interesting debate from Democracy Now:


On “Democracy Now!” on Wednesday morning, Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges debated University of Chicago law professor Geoffrey Stone—the man who hired Barack Obama to teach constitutional law at that school and later served as the president’s informal adviser—on the question of whether NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden is a hero or a traitor.http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/chris_hedges_on_edward_snowden_hero_or_traitor_201 30612/


not sure if this discussion has been posted here already but, no harm in putting here again if it has.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKmkxptPLSw&NR=1

[Cidersomerset]

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Published on 23 Jun 2013


The American whistleblower Edward Snowden is thought to be in
Moscow Airport after leaving Hong Kong from where the US was
seeking his extradition.

[Cidersomerset]

'Snowden case shows US is bully boy of world'


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Published on 23 Jun 2013


The plane carrying whistleblower Edward Snowden has
landed at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport. The former
CIA contractor, who left Hong Kong in a bid to elude
US extradition on espionage charges, is on his way to
a 'third country' via Russia. Former MI5 agent Annie
Machon says America's whistleblower hunt gives it the
image of a major global aggressor

[Cidersomerset]

'Internet under Siege: The more data they get, the more we should fear'

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Published on 23 Jun 2013


The plane carrying whistleblower Edward Snowden has landed at
Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport. The former CIA contractor, who
left Hong Kong in a bid to elude US extradition on espionage charges,
is on his way to a 'third country' via Russia. Loz Kaye, leader of the
UK Pirate Party, thinks people shouldn't focus on Snowden, but on
the revelations he made

[onawah]

Ed Snowden beware: U.S. State Dept. has confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

Monday, June 24, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger


(NaturalNews) As reported by the Associated Press, Edward Snowden managed to evade U.S. authorities and fly to Ecuador where he is apparently being granted political asylum.

As AP reports:

The former National Security Agency contractor and CIA technician fled Hong Kong and arrived at the Moscow airport, where he planned to spend the night before boarding an Aeroflot flight to Cuba. Ecuador's Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino said his government received an asylum request from Snowden, and the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said it would help him.

What AP doesn't know -- and neither do most Americans -- is that the U.S. government has a well-established track record of running covert kidnapping and abduction operations in Ecuador to capture anyone they want.

And the reason I know this is because I am the journalist who used to live in Ecuador and who broke the bombshell story of herbalist Greg Caton being kidnapped by U.S. authorities in Ecuador in 2009. He was then stuffed onto a U.S.-bound jet at the airport in Guayaquil and flown to Miami. That full story is published here on Natural News:

www.naturalnews.com/027750_Greg_Caton_FDA.html

U.S. State Dept. runs abduction operation in Ecuador
What's fascinating is that at the time, in 2009, nobody believed this story was true. But today, in light of all the revelations that have surfaced about illegal, covert, rogue government groups doing whatever they want, this story on the abduction and kidnapping of a U.S. citizen living in Ecuador sounds astonishingly feasible. In fact, it is true.

As I wrote in 2009, the FDA's Office of Criminal Investigations (OCI) managed to twist the arm of the State Department to have Greg Caton -- an herbalist -- added to Interpol's "red list." This list is normally reserved for extreme war criminals and international murderers, but because Greg Caton was selling anti-cancer salves made with Amazon rainforest herbs that really do eliminate many types of topical cancers, the U.S. government designated him as an enemy of the state (to protect the lucrative cancer industry, obviously).

Keep in mind that Greg Caton's activities were not illegal in Ecuador. The U.S. government, however, wanted to destroy this man's business and cut off the supply of anti-cancer salves to U.S. customers. So they dispatched a covert team of government operatives to Ecuador who proceeded to bribe all the right people to have Caton arrested at gunpoint as he was driving down his own driveway.

This process of abducting and kidnapping Caton was done completely outside of law, with no extradition request and with no due process whatsoever. It was an example of the U.S. government engaging in the kind of raw criminality we're increasingly seeing exposed week after week. In 2009, of course, most Americans still believed in Obama and thought their government would never engage in widespread criminal actions against the People. Today, however, we all know better.

What makes this all the more hilarious today in 2013 is that U.S. officials are now lecturing Hong Kong on the "rule of law". As Time.com reported today:

A senior U.S. official delivered a terse statement to Hong Kong on Saturday about Snowden, saying, "If Hong Kong doesn't act soon, it will complicate our bilateral relations and raise questions about Hong Kong's commitment to the rule of law."

The rule of law? Give me a break. The U.S. violates all law -- both domestic and international -- any time it wants. The abduction and kidnapping of Greg Caton was a gross violation of law, but that didn't seem to bother the FDA nor the State Dept. back in 2009.

It did bother Dr. Brian O'Leary, however. He was a NASA astronaut and globally-recognized scientist, and before he passed away, he gave me this statement on the record:

I was shocked to hear about his kidnapping and illegal deportation to the U.S., regardless of perceptions of his legal status within the U.S., something I understand to be a mild violation at most. He is a legal resident of Ecuador and conducts a legal alternative health product [company] here. I thoroughly support his work in healing untold thousands of people of cancer and other serious diseases.


read the rest at: http://www.naturalnews.com/040909_Ed_Snowden_Ecuador_abductions.html

[Kimberley]

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Ed Snowden beware: U.S. State Dept. has confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador.

Monday, June 24, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

Full article at this link...

http://www.naturalnews.com/040909_ed_snowden_ecuador_abductions.html


Bill Ryan be safe!

:grouphug:

[Rex]

...Bill Ryan be safe!

or get the guest bed ready!

[Octavusprime]

I'm confused, is Bill Ryan also hiding from the government in Ecuador?

[Kristin]

I'm confused, is Bill Ryan also hiding from the government in Ecuador?

No, Bill is not in hiding.

[Maia Gabrial]

Why did he leave Hong Kong???

[turiya]

I'm confused, is Bill Ryan also hiding from the government in Ecuador?

No, Bill is not in hiding.

You just can't see him... :cool:

[johnf]

Interesting, yesterday, andtoday I have been thinking, maybe Bill will do an interview, um not likely.
Here is just one reason.

[Billy]

I would think that as long as Ed Snowden is traveling around or in any country around the planet he will always be vulnerable to the long reach of the arm of the USA.

My opinion is he would be better staying in the public eye within a consulate safe house in a safe country. Maybe that is what he is trying to do.

I am not sure why he did not do that to begin with. Before he even released the information. :noidea:

peace

[Cidersomerset]

Where is Snowden? Likely in Moscow airport transit zone, awaiting flight to Cuba

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Published on 24 Jun 2013


NSA contractor-turned whistleblower Edward Snowden
is awaiting a flight out of Moscow, which is thought to
be destined for Cuba, and leaving in just a matter of
hours. He arrived in the Russian capital on Sunday
having fled Hong Kong with Washington in hot pursuit.
RT's corresponders report from the airport.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm confused, is Bill Ryan also hiding from the government in Ecuador?

No, I'm 100% legally here, with all necessary papers granted and in hand.

:)

What Mike Adams describes about the safety of a high-profile 'wanted' gringo may be pretty much correct. One might be able to hide out forever in the rain forest, no matter who's searching, but not in Quito or Guayaquil.

[Cidersomerset]

Chase Mode: US set to catch Snowden amid biggest hunt for whistleblowers

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Published on 24 Jun 2013


Washington has revoked Edward Snowden's passport
and said that he should be prevented from traveling
any further. That's as officials demand that he be
returned to the jurisdiction of the United States.
Some lawmakers are urging Washington to spare
no effort to put him on trial in the US, even going
so far as to threaten Russia over its involvement.
RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports.

[pyrangello]

Well I just heard on the radio 175 people , mostly reporters were on the plane he was suppose to board for cuba, they all took off except snowden wasn't on board, ah yes 12 hour flight with a bunch of reporters, what a trip that will be LOL.

[Cidersomerset]

Game Set Match: 'US loses as Snowden slips from their hands'

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Published on 23 Jun 2013


US whistleblower Edward Snowden is en route to Moscow
from Hong Kong on an Aeroflot flight, Hong Kong authorities
have confirmed. The US filed an extradition order for
Snowden alleging espionage, theft and conversion of
government property. Asia times correspondent and
international affairs analyst Pepe Escobar believes we'll
witness an unprecedented persecution of whistleblowers
by the U.S. from time to time

[Cidersomerset]

NSA leaker Snowden on the run after charged with espionage

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Published on 24 Jun 2013


On Friday evening, news broke that US officials formally charged whistleblower
Edward Snowden with espionage. Since The Guardian's story of the NSA spying
scandal was released, the 30-year-old has been jumping from country-to-country
to avoid extradition to the US. The leaker was last seen boarding a plane heading
to Moscow and now his whereabouts are unknown. John Hulsman, president of
John C. Hulsman Enterprises, and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern joins us with
more on the possible outcomes of this manhunt.

[GoodETxSG]

He surely has lots more data or the Russians wouldn't even bother with him... This story of Putin wanting to "Put his thumb in the eye of America" is just stupid (And after my eye surgery for a detached retina last night upsetting!)!...

The poor guy will now be VERY lucky if the Russians do not strip him of what leverage (Documents/Data) he has left then leave his skinny rear end flapping in the wind. Hopefully he played things smarter than that. If not he may not ever be seen again.

I have an Idea that BRICS is very excited to get their hands on some of this documentation to prove that the CABAL/Americans and European Families are ruling the world through black mail and murder AND have proof of their main TOOL!

From what I was told Snowden had access to the Databases that could have given him exactly that info by source A, also source B and C concur that this data was confirmed as accessed without authorization around this time frame and Contract/Organization ID's, DING DING DING...

There is a lot of freaking out going on in the background both people crapping a brick in fear and others hoping, crossing their fingers and holding their breaths that this info does get to BRICS and IS RELEASED and not just used as leverage.

Trolls from various agencies are white knuckled right now reading this kind of info in OPEN FORUMS... even reading along with you now! TRUST ME!

B.S. They know what he has... what he accessed. What he most likely has and it has them scared and freaking out...

http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-secret-data-snowden-took-worried-2013-6

The NSA Has No Idea How Much Secret Data Edward Snowden Took, And That Has Them Very Worried
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U.S. intelligence agencies still don't know how much sensitive material former Booz Allen contractor Edward Snowden obtained before leaking top-secret documents and fleeing the country, Mark Hosenball of Reuters reports.
Snowden was able to cover some of his tracks when he accessed information about the operations of the National Security Agency (NSA) and its British equivalent, Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), U.S. officials told Reuters.

It's definitely unclear how much information he actually has. On Sunday Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Snowden had roughly 200 documents in his possession.

Earlier this month, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald told The New York Times that Snowden gave him “thousands” of documents, “dozens” of which Greenwald says are newsworthy.

From Reuters:

The agencies fear that Snowden may have taken many more documents than officials initially estimated and that his alliance with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange increases the likelihood that they will be made public without considering the security implications, they said.

Snowden is traveling with Sarah Harrison, Assange's closest advisor.

WikiLeaks has published reams of classified U.S. government documents, including the "Afghan War Logs" in July 2010 and the "Iraq War Logs" in October 2010. The New York Times and other news organizations began publishing State Department cables obtained from WikiLeaks in November 2010.

Snowden had four laptops in his possession when he was in Hong Kong, and he told the South China Morning Post that he got a job at Booz Allen to gather evidence on surveillance methods.

"My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked," Snowden said. "That is why I accepted that position about three months ago."

Almost no one knows where Snowden currently is.

This weekend the former CIA technician left a government safe house in Hong Kong and flew to Moscow, where he then booked a Monday flight to Cuba but didn't show.

On Sunday, he requested asylum in Ecuador, and on Monday Reuters reported he had received refugee papers from Ecuador "to secure him safe passage as he fled Hong Kong over the weekend."

In August, Ecuador granted political asylum to Assange, who is currently holed up in the country's London embassy.

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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-secret-data-snowden-took-worried-2013-6#ixzz2XEnOmoV3

[Cidersomerset]

Assange: Snowden, Manning victims of Obama's war on whistleblowers

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Published on 24 Jun 2013


Edward Snowden and Wikileaks' Sarah Harrison who is accompanying him are "safe and
healthy," Julian Assange said during a conference call broadcast by RT.

"The current status of Mr Snowden and Harrison is that both are healthy and safe and
they are in contact with their legal teams," the WikiLeaks founder said. "I cannot give
further information as to their whereabouts," Assange added.

"Snowden is not a traitor, he is not a spy he is a whistleblower who told the public the
important truth," he pointed out.

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WikiLeaks on Snowden: Whereabouts secret, more leaks to come

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Published on 25 Jun 2013


RT talks to WikiLeaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson about what awaits Snowden, and
how the whistleblowing website is involved in his fate.

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Wikileaks take on MSM coverage of Snowden saga

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Published on 24 Jun 2013


RT's Anastasia Churkina sits down with Wikileaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson to
talk about the mainstream media frenzy over Snowden and the NSA scandal, why their
are focusing on flakey aspects of the story, and whether the PRISM revelation is a sign
of more shocking details to come

[Cidersomerset]

'Snowden never crossed border, US threats unacceptable' - Russia

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Published on 25 Jun 2013


Washington's allegations over US fugitive Edward Snowden are
'unacceptable' as he never crossed the Russian border, Russia's
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said. As a consequence, any
attempt to accuse or threaten Moscow by the US is unfounded.

[Cidersomerset]

Ex-CIA Chief: Snowden neither hero, nor traitor but very troubled young man

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Published on 24 Jun 2013


PRISM-gate has made Edward Snowden a well known whistleblower.
America is split over what to believe. Does NSA tapping of private
phones helps fight terror and Snowden is a traitor who's endangered
the nation? Or is it a violation of the US constitution and Snowden is
a hero to have braved talking against the government? Former NSA
and CIA director Michael Hayden speaks his mind on SophieCo.

[Maia Gabrial]

So what's REALLY happening now in the world that they have all of our attention on Snowden? Maybe the predicted disaster for June 26th or so is going to happen while we're looking at him.... Something FEMA/DHS/US govt have up their sleeves to shock us with?

[sdv]

Yep, it may be so that the extreme bullying threatening paranoia from the USA government is what Eddie has not yet revealed.

What he has revealed so far is not 'new' news as other whistle blowers have been exposing this for years (but they did not have the proof that he deliberately and carefully gathered).

In the meanwhile ... here is an amusing distraction (Where is Eddie? Can you spot the world's most wanted man?)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/jun/24/wheres-edward-snowden-in-pictures

[Cidersomerset]

Why US Extradition Requests for Snowden are Ignored

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Published on 24 Jun 2013


As Edward Snowden flees from the United States,
he's found sympathetic governments around the
world to assist in his flight to asylum. China, Russia,
Cuba, and Ecuador are all playing a role in this saga,
leaving the United States wondering why it can't find
a willing partner to assist in Snowden's arrest. Political
Commentator Sam Sacks breaks down the reasons
why few are willing to do the United States a favor
when it comes to capturing Snowden.

[Cidersomerset]

Putin confirms NSA leaker Snowden in Moscow

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Published on 25 Jun 2013


For the past 24 hours, the mainstream media has
been on all over the possible whereabouts of
whistleblower Edward Snowden. On Tuesday,
Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that
Snowden remains in the transit zone of the airport
in Moscow. As of now, the leaker's final destination
is unknown, but Putin expressed that leaving Russia
would be in the best interest of both parties.
International human rights lawyer Stanley
Cohen sounds off on the Snowden case

[naste.de.lumina]

Donald Trump Says Snowden Should Be Assassinated

Extradition process and justice system are too slow for would-be presidential candidate

Steve Watson
Infowars.com
June 25, 2013

Donald Trump, a man who has previously and may once again tout himself as a presidential candidate,
believes that the American justice system is too slow and cumbersome to deal with whistleblowers like former NSA analyst Edward Snowden.
Labeling Snowden a “spy”, Trump went on Fox News to advocate his immediate “execution”.
In a vomit inducing interview with Fox and Friends, Trump, in his infinite wisdom, stated:
“You know, spies in the old days used to be executed.”


naste. => 'Traitors also Mr. Trump not forget that.'

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“This guy is becoming a hero in some circles. Now, I will say, with the passage of time, even people that were sort of liking him and were trying to go on his side are maybe dropping out…”
“We have to get him back and we have to get him back fast. It could take months or it could take years, and that would be pathetic.” The Donald noted.
Blatantly advocating that Snowden be assassinated, Trump suggested that the US would somehow cease to exist, should he be allowed to live and divulge secret information on government surveillance and other unconstitutional practices.
“This guy’s a bad guy and, you know, there’s still a thing called execution,” he said.
“You really have to take a strong… You have thousands of people with access to material like this. We’re not going to have a country any longer.” Trump continued.
Ironically, that reasoning was EXACTLY why Snowden went public with the material on the NSA in the first place – because he could not face living in a country that treats its own citizens like suspects and actively spies on all their communications.
Trump also labelled journalists who covered the story “disgraceful”, saying that newspapers should not have printed the details of the revelations.
Trump’s lack of understanding of the Bill Of Rights and the Fourth Amendment will not come as a surprise to regular readers, given his attacks on former Congressman Ron Paul last year.
Despite him being the most constitutionally sound presidential candidate in decades, Trump called Paul a “joke” candidate, and belittled his Libertarian outlook on foreign policy, saying Paul did not care about foreign affairs such as “if Iran has a nuclear weapon that can wipe out Israel.”

Source: http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-says-snowden-should-be-assassinated/

[Carmody]

Trump is a low level freemason/secret society mouthpiece. A thug who's been allowed to accumulate money. The end.

[Cidersomerset]

MSM failed journalism in Snowden NSA saga

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Published on 25 Jun 2013


RT's Anastasia Churkina reports on prime examples of how
the mainstream American media has been doing anything
BUT covering the biggest privacy leak story of our lifetime,
and why TV networks have been working so hard to avoid t
he real news and change the subject.

[MadMax1]

I have been following this story most of the day today and yesterday and the US government has done a complete back flip with their accusations of China and Russia. Now they realise they can not get what they want by using force they have toned down there comments of critisism. Yesterday they paraded all these analysts that work for different departments of government and media, and only 2 out of the 10 i watched agreed that the US government would do the same thing if a person came to America with this sort of info. All the others denied that the US government would try and get hold of the top secret info which i think is a load of rubbish, no country would pass up the opportunity to see top secret documents from another country plain and simple. I would dearly like to see some reports from Russian and Chinese media to get there perspective on this situation. I am sure this man Snowden is not just some analyst who decided to bail with alot of top secret information now after studying this for the last 2 days, their is definetley more to him then we are being told. He seems to have had an agenda of some sort but what it is i do not know, and if he is sent back to the USA we will never know the truth all they will focus on is him being a traiter and a spy

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden Barrage: US lashes out at China, Russia to distract from NSA leaks

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Published on 25 Jun 2013


Washington has lashed out at countries which whistle blower
Edward Snowden has used as stepping stones on his quest to
freedom. It's warned China of the consequences of allowing
the 30 year old to flee to Russia - while hinting that both
Moscow and Beijing are far from being bastions of free speech.

Amnesty Internalional has said the US shouldn't hunt down
Edward Snowden and other whistleblowers who disclose human
rights violations. RT talks to Michael Bochenek, Director of Law
and Policy at the activist group.

[Cidersomerset]

Putin on Snowden: No extradition, accusations against Russia 'nonsense & rubbish'

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Published on 25 Jun 2013


Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden remains in
the transit zone of a Moscow airport. President Putin
said that Snowden never crossed the Russian border
and doesn't fall under any extradition treaty.

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Putin: Snowden still in Moscow airport, won't be extradited


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Published on 25 Jun 2013


Russia's President says former NSA contractor Edward Snowden
is still in the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport.
Vladimir Putin says that any accusations of Russia related to
Snowden are "nonsense and rubbish."

[norman]

I hear the creaking sound of many crow-bars loosening the foundations of another nation state.

As in the case of the twin towers, there will be many weakening blows before the "main event", which surely won't happen until the middle east business is resolved.

At some point, the NSA and other intel agencies will have to at least partly extricate themselves from the American nationhood. This Snowden affair may turn out to be the start of that process.

I'll predict, right now, that when the big crunch comes, there will be a swift move to sell, via the mainstream media, the idea that:

"vital security resources like the NSA are too important to be left dangling at the mercy of an unstable nation ( and it's panicky confused public servants ) and should be quickly adopted under a new world authority responsible for global security matters".

It's obviously too soon to make that suggestion right now but the time might not be so far off.

I can almost 'feel' for Obama. Even though he's only a mascot, he must be personally gutted now that he knows that he's only in the Whitehouse as a token 'black' president to be the humiliated racially blamed loser of everything American. As if the white controllers are having a last opportunistic laugh. If this process stalls and Obama leaves office, look out for a woman getting the job next. That'll almost give them as big a chuckle.

[naste.de.lumina]

Hellions Inc. – Snowden’s Former Employers Exposed

Tuesday, June 25th, 2013.

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Thad Allen of Booz Allen Hamilton – Such care…

by Zen Gardner
Well, gotta say this is one tight harvest of bastards. Besides the outright fascist hit squad nature of this group, the Carlyle Group mentioned herein is nefarious to the core, as of course is the RAND corporation and others, so follow the names, follow the money, follow the wars and follow the power and oppression.
They’ll be there, along with a host of other supposedly private raptor-clusters aided and abetted by the Masonic/Satanic ruling elite and their banking, scientific and military minions. Bad to the bone. And they’re currently “calling the shots”.
“How’s that workin’ out for ya’, peeps?” Damn these bastards.
These very obvious truths about what we’re dealing with are becoming more and more evident to more and more people. It will continue to do so. Reality is shifting. Please do your part by being you. It’s up to us to resist by being awake, aware and active.
So here’s the awful Truth about another nest of anti-human scorpions…

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Booz Allen Hamilton: What You Don’t Know About Snowden’s Former Employer

Daily Paul Liberty Forum
Let’s take another trip down the rabbit hole, shall we?

Lost in the Edward Snowden debate is a critical look at his former employer, the company doing the spying on Americans in the first place: Booz Allen Hamilton.

Booz Allen Hamilton is a government contractor, with 99% of its revenue coming from the US government. Not only does it receive money from the NSA, but also the US Army, US Navy, US Air Force, US Marine Corps, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and … the IRS. In addition, Booz Allen is heavily connected to the CIA.

Among the individuals involved in running the company, we have:

James Clapper – current Director of National Intelligence (DNI), head of NSA, the man who lied to Congress about the fact that NSA is actively spying on Americans, is a former executive

Mike McConnell – a current executive of the company, had Clapper’s job (DNI) during George W. Bush’s administration (keep it in the family, eh?) — he worked for Booz Allen before Bush, then worked for Bush, then back to Booz Allen after Bush

James Woolsey – former CIA Director, current executive (see Jan Helfeld’s interview of Mr. Woolsey where it becomes clear that Woolsey has no interest in discussing principles, only war)

Melissa Hathaway – former executive, also worked for McConnell during the Bush administration

Ian Brzezinski – former executive, son of Zbigniew Brzezinski, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller, central figure in the NWO crowd, and mastermind of Operation Cyclone

Dov Zakheim – this character is … unbelievable:

1993 – His company, System Planning Corporation, had a subsidiary called Tridata Corporation, which was the company that “oversaw” the investigation of the 1993 WTC bombing

2000 – Part of the neocon Project for a New American Century, he is co-author of “Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” in which he is credited with the infamous line, “… some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”

2001 – He is appointed Comptroller of the Pentagon, in which $2.3 trillion promptly goes “missing”

2001 – Attack on 9/11 occurs; some people are suspicious of his connections, since his company, SPC, in involved in flight systems capable of remote controlling aircraft, and because he was the guy who leased 32 Boeing 767 aircraft to McDill Air Force Base (2 of the 9/11 aircraft were 767′s), and McDill is close to Elgin AFB, which was the location that was to be used if Operation Northwoods had gone live.

2004 – Goes to work for Booz Allen Hamilton.

2012 – Advisor on Middle East policy for Mitt Romney campaign (gee … ya think Romney would have gone to war in the Middle East???)

Booz Allen Hamilton is owned by the Carlyle Group.

One of the big investors in the Carlyle Group was the Bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia. Yeah … THAT Bin Laden family. And instrumental in being the “go between” for Carlyle/Bin Laden was a guy by the name of George H. W. Bush. Maybe you’ve heard of him?

The CEO of the Carlyle Group (remember, they OWN Booz Allen Hamilton) is Frank Carlucci. Mr. Carlucci has quite a resume:

Nixon Administration – Director of the Office for Economic Opportunity (the “War on Poverty” — and a great place to decide who gets government contracts)

Carter Administration – Deputy Director of the CIA

Reagan Administration – National Security Advisor and Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld is Carlucci’s protoge)

He is or has been with the Project for a New American Century and a member of the Board of Trustees for the RAND Corporation, a CIA front that develops policies that the Military Industrial Complex then carries out.

You want a NWO guy? Carlucci is your man. And CEO of Carlyle Group, owner of Booz Allen Hamilton, spying on YOU.

At RAND, his specialty was Middle East policy. What do you know? That was also the specialty of Graham Fuller, CIA guy who was the father-in-law of Ruslan Tsarni, uncle of Tamarlan Tsarnev, suspected Boston bomber.

Speaking of the Boston bombing and Tamarlan Tsarnev, he had a couple of trips to Russia that made the news. But what did not make the news (in America, but it did in Russia) is that he went there for “training” that was funded by the Jamestown Foundation. And what do you know? The Jamestown Foundation (CIA front) has among its past board members none other than Dick Cheney and Marcia Carlucci, wife of Frank Carlucci. MORE>>

Had enough? There’s more, there’s always more. The evidence is evident. Then the wake up. Now to live and act accordingly. – Zen

+++

ZenGardner.com

Source: http://www.zengardner.com/hellions-inc-snowdens-former-employers-exposed/

[Cidersomerset]

US whistleblower Edward Snowden 'in transit area' at Moscow airport

26 June 2013 Last updated at 13:26 Help Fugitive US whistleblower Edward
Snowden is still in the transit area at a Moscow airport, according to Russian
President Vladimir Putin.

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The 30-year-old IT expert is wanted by the US for revealing to the media details of
a secret government surveillance programme, which he obtained while working as a
contractor for the National Security Agency (NSA).

The BBC's Steve Rosenberg went to the Sheremetyevo airport to find out where Mr
Snowden could be hiding.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23067163

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Snowden 'is in Moscow airport transit zone'


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Published on 25 Jun 2013


After days of speculation about the whereabouts of US whistleblower Edward
Snowden, Russia has confirmed he is in the transit area of Moscow airport.
President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Snowden's arrival in Moscow was
unexpected and that he hopes the case doesn't damage Russia's relationship with
the United States.

Al Jazeera's Peter Sharp reports from Moscow.

[Cidersomerset]

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[mactiegre]

I am new to this forum but that last post from CiderSomerset seems off topic.

[Cidersomerset]

CrossTalk: Snowden Saga


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Published on 26 Jun 2013


Now, with Edward Snowden's stay in Moscow, where do US-Russia
relations stand? What about US-Sino relations? Has Snowden
actually damaged US security? And what is the next move for
the US government. CrossTalking with Mark Weisbrot and Ariel Ratner.

[Cidersomerset]

I am new to this forum but that last post from CiderSomerset seems off topic.

Its a joke ...LOL...About Edward Snowden possibly being stuck in the Moscow
Terminal for the next 10 years,as a nationalist politician told the reporter in the
BBC vid.

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BBC News - US whistleblower Snowden 'still in Moscow airport'

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Published on 26 Jun 2013


Fugitive US whistleblower Edward Snowden is still in the transit area at Moscow
airport, Russia's President Vladimir Putin has confirmed.Mr Putin said the
intelligence leaker remained a free man, and the sooner he chose a destination the
better.But a White House spokeswoman said Russia had a "clear legal basis" to
expel Mr Snowden. Julie Peacock reports.

[Cidersomerset]

Unlike: Jihadi terrorists dodge PRISM with anti-social networks

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Published on 26 Jun 2013


The PRISM surveillance program mainly focuses on access
to the US biggest corporations like Skype, Google, or iCloud,
while terrorists use what a 2012 report titled "core forums",
which are part of the Deep Web, or Undernet, RT's Irina
Galushko reports. That section isn't indexed by search
engines nor, consequently, by PRISM.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Here is another valid viewpoint on Edward Snowden:

By William Blum (http://williamblum.org/)

From ~ Official website of the author, historian, and U.S. foreign policy critic.

The Anti-Empire Report #118

By William Blum – Published June 26th, 2013


Edward Snowden

In the course of his professional life in the world of national security Edward Snowden must have gone through numerous probing interviews, lie detector examinations, and exceedingly detailed background checks, as well as filling out endless forms carefully designed to catch any kind of falsehood or inconsistency.

The Washington Post (June 10) reported that “several officials said the CIA will now undoubtedly begin reviewing the process by which Snowden may have been hired, seeking to determine whether there were any missed signs that he might one day betray national secrets.”

Yes, there was a sign they missed – Edward Snowden had something inside him shaped like a conscience, just waiting for a cause.


Click on this link for more....http://http://williamblum.org/aer/read/118

My only other contribution is that James Bamford revealed all this and much more in his series of books decades ago. This smells like a setup to me and it looks like some agency is protecting and mentoring Snowden through it ~ I'm not talking about Wikileaks.

At this point, we can't be sure exactly what is going on here but it seems like "business as usual" to me. More lies and distractions.

No one whacked James Bamford who revealed much MORE about NSA's mischief, so what's the real fuss? Well, Snowden received major media coverage but his information was a few decades too late!

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden stuck in Moscow airport

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Published on 26 Jun 2013


The National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden has taken
credit for one of the largest classified information leaks in history. Snowden
shared with The Guardian how the NSA has been spying on Americans in an
effort to prevent acts of terror. On Tuesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin
verified that the whistleblower remains in the Sheremetyevo airport in
Moscow and now the US has nullified Snowden's passport. But Ecuador
has stepped in and is considering giving the whistleblower asylum. We
bring you more from Moscow.

[Cidersomerset]

The Terminal: Snowden indefinitely stuck in Moscow airport

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Published on 26 Jun 2013


Russia won't hand over America's most wanted man,
NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. He remains holed
up in transit at a Moscow airport for a fourth day.
President Putin said that means Snowden's never
actually crossed into Russia and so is beyond the
government's reach

[Cidersomerset]

With Chancellor Osborne announcing cut in budgets today
the 'Spy / intelligence ' was one of the few to be increased,


Germany criticised British Big Brother spying

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Published on 26 Jun 2013


Germany has issued a rare rebuke to the UK
for its use of surveillance on its citizens.
Katie Razzall reports

[Soulboy]

Germany criticised British Big Brother spying

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Published on 26 Jun 2013


Germany has issued a rare rebuke to the UK
for its use of surveillance on its citizens.
Katie Razzall reports


Interesting thread!

There is one thing that has been itching me since this whole story started. I saw RT repeatedly mentioning how shocked the German govt is at all this and that they would respect the privacy of their citizens much much more than the US does. That is not quite the whole truth, I feel.

The German people may have a right to be outraged, our govt however certainly does not. Angie has been MASSIVELY behind the idea of a surveillance state from the outset and has been actively pushing it, which is a well known fact in Germany.

What is also well known, at least by those Germans who are not fully asleep, is that our lovely Chancellor used to work at the Stasi (yes THAT Stasi, the one that is now being used as a metaphor to compare the NSA to) and that her speciality as codename "Erika" within the agency was literally "agitation and propaganda", although she claims that she does not quite remember what exactly she was doing at the agency. Funny how people forget unimportant details of their lives, isn't it? Like what your job title and area of interest was in the most horrendous surveillance agency Germany has ever seen... I see how that could slip your mind, I mean who remembers everything they've ever done, right?

Could be that I have missed it, but as far as I have seen, all the outrage about this situation has been expressed by other people than Angie... Again, I wonder why that could be...

Are our politicians seriously trying to tell us they had no idea about the many US intel sites that exist in Germany? What did they think was going on there? Origami courses and dieting classes, maybe? Our own agencies are probably not a whole lot better domestically...

The German people are very much against the whole issue, but we also have an incredible network of cameras on all our roads, public transport and pretty much everywhere, albeit not as bad as in Britain. People in Berlin were so annoyed by it, they started this underground game of smashing these cameras to bits and even making a game out of it, assigning points for different cameras in various locations according to level of difficulty in destroying them. it was quite an entertaining piece of news indeed a few months back.

This week, we had a young tech-savvy guy on one of our major MSM late night talkshows who was obviously annoyed and was grinding his teeth during the entire show, seeing the discussion being derailed into stupid arguments going nowhere and focussing on opinions and views that stay well away from the real issues. An American "publicist" and a bought and paid for German politician were on the show's panel who both interrupted everyone mid-sentence when the discussion seemed to take an interesting turn (like industrial espionage for example), making sure that nothing of worth would be discussed.

I have read a book by Bamford in '99 detailing most, if not all and with a lot more detail of the technical capabilities, of what has been revealed now and am just amazed at the extent to which people are boiling over at news that is really no news at all. Of course, it's shocking to see the proof, but it was known by everyone who cared to inform themselves about the issue for years. Even if people had never read any books on it, it's been in the news (even the NY Times covered it years ago when other people blew the whistle) on and off since the nineties, but never got the attention it's getting now. Every time I hear the word "scandal" on the news, I tend to hear it as "psy-op" instead and try to figure out what is behind it. And this whole story is certainly one of those "scandals" in my opinion, judging by the importance given to it in the news

Something tells me that this is some form of distraction as it is being pushed soooo hard on the MSM. Just think of the other "big scandals" on the MSM over the last 7 months or so. They all turned out to have a lot of holes in their stories shortly afterwards and were torn apart in the alternative media, PA included from what I have seen. A guess as to what they may be trying to divert our attention from this time around... That is a difficult one here, since there are up to 2 dozen things that could potentially be quite juicy and a handful of things that may be even worse if one knew all that could be known on any of these issues, but which very few if any of us know all the details of.

[norman]

......Something tells me that this is some form of distraction..........




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PxEuYUUMJI

[ThePythonicCow]

I am new to this forum but that last post from CiderSomerset seems off topic.

Well, being a bit off topic is OK, in some cases, such as a bit of humor or an odd way of looking at something. What might matter more is whether the post is likely to provoke a thread derailment. Does the post lead to further distractions, or does it just add a bit of "color" ?

[Soulboy]

Yet another interesting article by Jon Rappoport on the topic:



Why hasn’t the US government snatched Ed Snowden yet?

June 26

by Jon Rappoport

www.nomorefakenews.com

Is the NSA a leaking sieve?

Well, Ed Snowden proved it, didn’t he?

He strolled into work with a thumb drive, plugged in, and stole the holy of holies.

This is the vaunted NSA we’re talking about. They can reach out and spy on anybody in the world, but they just didn’t remember to put safeguards in place, in their own offices.

They forgot. For years.

You know, just an oops.

And people nod and shrug when they hear about it.

The NSA says, “Now that we’re aware of the problem, we’re going to install new procedures to tighten security.”

Sure.

And then there is this. The NSA can spy on anyone in the world, but they can’t find Ed Snowden now.

So… to sum up: we’re supposed to believe NSA can’t protect their own files, and they can’t find the most wanted man in the world.

People actually accept this nonsense.

So the question arises: if the NSA really does know where Snowden is right now, why hasn’t the Pentagon dispatched a team to snatch him and bring him home? Or why hasn’t the team killed him?

Two reasons. If Snowden really does have more damning information, and if, as Glenn Greenwald says, Snowden’s already sent it to multiple people in case anything happens to him, then capturing or killing him would trigger the release of that information.

And two, the groundswell of support for Snowden is growing at a rapid pace. Can you imagine what could happen if the government grabbed Snowden and brought him home to go on trial for treason?

The uproar would explode. The NSA would find itself under far greater attack. Politicians like Pelosi and Feinstein, who’ve come out against Snowden, could easily be swept away on the tide.

The current image of Snowden is sincere, honest, frank, and self-sacrificing. He doesn’t want to go after individual spies. He wants to change the system.

As we speak, government-contracted PR people and psyop specialists are burning the midnight oil, doing a risk-benefit analysis, trying to figure out how they could handle bringing Snowden home and placing him on trial. How they could change his image.

Is it worth it? What happens if they let Snowden roam free for a few more months? If they bring him home, can they spin media coverage to make him look bad? Worse than bad? Will that backfire? Do they have enough media ducks lined up?

Will Brian Williams, Scott Pelley, and Dianne Sawyer tune up just right on this issue? Will they be able to hypnotize enough of the public into believing Snowden is a traitor?

What about the “online community,” which is firmly on Snowden’s side after the revelations about nine tech giants cooperating fully with the NSA? How about 100,000 sites and bloggers going wild about the injustice of snatching Snowden and putting him on trial?

If, as I’ve argued in previous articles (see Spygate on this blog), Snowden is actually still working for his old employer, the CIA, and forwarding a turf war between the CIA and NSA, we’d have to say CIA has done a good job in positioning Snowden. The CIA might be crazy, but they aren’t (always) stupid.

Right out of the box, Snowden made a complete statement to the press about his intentions and motives. He just wants to expose the illegal spying on all US citizens so the public can decide what should be done, because after all, this is still a democracy.

Snowden says he doesn’t want praise. He’s not a hero. He just wants transparency. And the NSA is breaking the law over and over.

Snowden looks the part. Young, bright. A self-effacing yet steadfast nerd. Perfect. Nothing nasty about him. He doesn’t have that Julian Assange edge. He’s just a boy. Look at him. He obviously means well.

Honorable hero? CIA operative? Either way, the US government is in a pickle. It’s not going to be a slam-dunk with this guy.

The Matrix Revealed

In a related issue, it’s astonishing (to anyone who is awake) that the Congress hasn’t come down on NSA like a ton of bricks.

We should be hearing a grilling like this, directed at NSA head, Keith Alexander:

“Let me get this straight, General Alexander. Snowden captured and stole your most secret data. Anyone of his rank at NSA could have done the same, because you have no security protection against it. And now, with the most sophisticated spying system in the world, you can’t find Snowden. This makes the NSA the most bumbling stumbling trillion-dollar organization in the history of mankind. Can you give me a good reason why we shouldn’t move to de-fund NSA completely and start over from scratch? This is outrageous.”

And that would just be the beginning of the assault.

Yet, that’s not what we’re getting. Instead, so far, we’re hearing a few modest criticisms.

Why?

The most obvious answer is, Congress is afraid of the NSA. This bunch of legislators, these crooks and con men and perverts and felonious scum are scared that they’ve been under the NSA spying lens for a long time.

And what could come crawling out of NSA files is terrifying to them.

So they hold still. They take a deep breath. They pray for safety. They go on the attack against Snowden. They fall all over themselves calling Snowden a vile traitor who must be brought to justice.

Which tells you something about who’s running things in Washington.

It also tells you something about the level of resentment that’s built up over the years against the NSA. Not just in the Congress. In certain quarters of the CIA and the elite media, because NSA has been spying on reporters and editors and taking huge chunks of federal budget $$ away from the CIA.

Lots of important people have been hoping for a way to take down NSA a peg or two.

So this is the kind of Congressional-NSA conversation that’s going on right now, behind closed doors in Washington:

“Here’s the thing, General Alexander. We spoken about this before. Your NSA has been invading our lives with your snooping for far too long. Now we have a trump card. Ed Snowden. We’re playing it. I’m not admitting he’s our creature, I’m just saying he’s doing the kind of work we ourselves should have done years ago. So we want some give and take here.”

“What kind of give and take?”

“Get off our backs. We’ll go easy on you. We won’t turn all our guns on you. We’ll call Snowden a traitor. We’ll focus all the public attention on him. But give us our privacy back. Now.”

“Well, I suppose we might do that.”

“But we have to know you’re setting us free to do whatever the hell we want to do, without fear of being seen doing it. We need guarantees.”

“How might that work?”

“We need people we appoint to have oversight on NSA. Real oversight.”

The beginnings of an uneasy truce. A problematic truce, to be sure.

Oh, people might say, this sort of dealing never takes place.

Really? And you’re living in what world? The rainbow happy-happy goody-good sandbox planet just to the left of Oz?

The only question is, do the political enemies of NSA have enough juice yet, from the Snowden affair, to engage in this kind of conversation and come out with a win?

But that’s about tactics. The intention is clear. There are political players who want to take the NSA down a notch. Some of them may be honorable patriots; but some of them are definitely rank criminals in politicians’ clothing, who want to feel free from the Big Watching Eye.

Ed Snowden is their man of the hour. They will use him and what he symbolizes to make hay while the sun shines.

Exit From the Matrix

Why is all this important? And why does it matter who Snowden really represents?

It’s important because, the way this political game works, the NSA will escape the current scandal with its major spying programs intact, there will be dirty deals and compromises, and the NSA will still hold tremendous power.

No one in Washington imagines that NSA’s spying on private American citizens will significantly decline.

If people really understood that, if they understood that no savior is coming to unhook NSA’s computers, they might begin to view the Snowden affair differently. They might be willing to consider the real games that are being played.

They might admit that what we need is a nullification of Washington power that goes far beyond anything that Ed Snowden can provide.

Our real problem is the limited mind, or perhaps we should call it the literal mind.

The literal mind can’t conceive of the levels of deception and bent deal-making below the surface of events presented on the evening news.

The literal mind can’t, for example entertain the possibility that Snowden’s revealed some important (though hardly surprising) information, while at the same time, he has less than the purest of motives.

The literal mind is a programmed mind.

You present it with the image of the most competent and brilliant spying agency in the world, the NSA, and the “fact” that this agency can’t find its own ex-employee, Ed Snowden, and there is no perceived problem. No inconsistency.

The literal mind accepts all contradictions like hundred-dollar bills.

You could, for example, spend a year educating that mind about the US corporations that aided the Nazis in World War 2. You could spell out all the details. IBM, ITT, Standard Oil, etc.

And then, you could ask, “Do you think there is any chance the War was manipulated?”

And that mind would say, “Of course not. It was us versus them.”

You could say, “The science on manmade global warming is settled,” and the literal mind would never think of replying, “Explain what you mean by ‘settled.’ Who settled it? Exactly how?”

You could say, “Every year in the US, pharmaceutical drugs kill a minimum of 106,000 people. Nutritional supplements kill no one. But the FDA, which permits those drugs to enter the marketplace, relentlessly attacks supplements. It does nothing to stem the tide of deaths owing to the medical drugs.”

The literal mind would reply, “Yes? And? So?”

Some preposterous doofus on the news says, “Ed Snowden is walking around with three laptops that contain the deepest secrets of the NSA. Chinese or Russian hackers could have already gained access to all that information.”

The literal mind would never wonder why, then, the NSA can’t accomplish the same feat and discover what Snowden has pilfered.

The literal mind, under guidance from elite media anchors, will connect the dots directly in front of it, but it will avoid, at all costs, imagination. It will never posit alternative realities or explanations which then make those dots take on different meaning, fuller and deeper and truer meaning.

The literal mind is full of fear and protection. It wants to protect itself and it is afraid that something novel might swim into view and shatter it to pieces.

The literal mind is a clog in the bloodstream of life. It’s a believer in the extreme fairy tale of ordinary reality.

The literal mind imports, wholesale, images of ordinary reality and clings to them like a leech.

The literal mind, when it accidentally rubs up against creative life, retreats into a corner and mutters and curses.

The literal mind lives a second-hand existence through the news, which is the only food it can eat.

When the literal mind reaches the end of its tether, it seeks out codified religious blather invented by a priest class for the purpose of cutting people off from their own authentic spiritual energies and insights and connections.

The literal mind is a coward. It only asks for other cowards with which it can commune.

The day is too long, the night is too long, the fear is too great. The literal mind must therefore play out the string of a shrunken number of days and wither away, hoping it can deceive the void it feels at the center of its own experience.

The literal mind crawls around on a bed in the Universal Hospital. It dreams of extinction, while knowing it is already extinct.

Do not hold out a helping hand to the literal mind. It will try to snap your finger off. That gesture is all it has left.

In the end, the literal mind turns out to be the most fictional thing in the world.

Jon Rappoport

The author of two explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED and EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com

[turiya]

'US pushes smear campaign against Snowden to distract from NSA leak'
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Published on 18 Jun 2013
Edward Snowden's revelations had already led to some tension between the US and China. Beijing has demanded that Washington explain its surveillance program and cyber spying to the international community.

James Corbett, editor of an independent news website the Corbett Report, says
further damage to relations between the two countries is inevitable
Most interesting, in that video is that James Corbett says its on record that the NSA is the creator of Stuxnet.
Good to see that there may yet be more NSA whistle blowers popping out of the woodwork.
Especially like Russell Tice's bomb dropping information regarding NSA's ability to potentially blackmail high-level political leaders. And that includes President Obama... All Supreme Court Justices... Members of Congress...
Russell Tice Goes on Record

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Lurd5QvZA
Sibel Edmonds Blows the Whistle on Government Blackmailing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc3esnkqM7E
In this remarkable conversation, Sibel Edmonds reflects on Russ Tice's recent revelations to Boiling Frogs Post and The Corbett Report that the NSA has wiretapped top government officials for years. Edmonds discusses from her own experience how the FBI collects dirt on Congressman and public officials for use as political leverage. We also talk about how this scandal proves that there is no "official channel" for whistleblowers to follow when they want to expose wrondoing because the system is being controlled from behind the scenes by the criminals in the national security establishment.

Compromised: How the National Security State Blackmails the Government


General Petraeus - Colin Powell - ALL Supreme Court Judges - Barack Obama, etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfXxl0PX__g

That the NSA is covertly spying on all three branches of the American government is nothing short of scandalous. Tice's revelations are especially appalling to anyone even remotely familiar with how exactly the type of information collected in such intercepts can be used for the purposes of political blackmail, and how profoundly that blackmail can shape the political landscape of the country. In fact, there is a long history of intelligence agencies and covert groups using precisely this type of information to blackmail politicians in the past.


turiya :cool:

[Cidersomerset]

Quote Posted by Soulboy (here)

......Something tells me that this is some form of distraction..........



Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PxEuYUUMJI


This is an interesting article about Russia's order of warships from France I saw
yesterday.......



Assembly Awaits: Mistral helicopter carrier stern on waves in St.Pete

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Published on 26 Jun 2013


The first part of a long-awaited addition to Russia's sea
fleet power has been unveiled in St. Petersburg. The stern
of the heavyweight Mistral ship will now be sent to France
to be fully assembled. RT's Maria Finoshina explains what
this naval deal means for Moscow and Paris

[Camilo]

I'm really glad that Mr. Putin is standing up to the USA.

[sdv]

I'm really glad that Mr. Putin is standing up to the USA instead of being submissive to its demands of returning Edward Snowden to them, which makes the USA look weak to the whole world.

Ecuador is also standing up to the vindictive bullying:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iifoynNJbviHdXI6g3qls1IEop_Q?docId=CNG.6f2827a8c60c407b4af0dfa51f8f8281.391


Ecuador waives US tariff benefits over Snowden case
(AFP) – 18 minutes ago
QUITO — Ecuador on Thursday waived preferential rights granted under a trade agreement with the United States, in a show of independence as it considers asylum for fugitive US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden.
"Ecuador unilaterally and irrevocably renounces these preferential customs tariff rights," Communications Minister Fernando Alvarado, said, reading from a government statement.
"Ecuador does not accept pressure or threats from anyone, and does not trade on principles or make them contingent on commercial interests, even if those interests are important ."
The government of leftist President Rafael Correa said that while it had received the preferential rights in exchange for its cooperation in the war on drugs, they had become a "new instrument of blackmail."
The 30-year-old Snowden, a former National Security Agency contractor who embarrassed the government of US President Barack Obama by revealing details of vast Internet and phone surveillance programs, has requested asylum from Ecuador.
Ecuadoran Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino has said it could take weeks to decide whether to grant asylum to Snowden, who remained Thursday in the transit area of a Moscow airport after fleeing Hong Kong.
Copyright © 2013 AFP. All rights reserved

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks turiya I like James Corbett and Sibel Edmonds vids and analyst, they are both very knowledgeable on these subjects.


Nothing has changed they have just got more sophisticated with 'Black Mail'
and ' Surveillance' Techniches ......


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A couple of 'Tricky' Customers.....

http://nixontapes.org/images/nixon-hoover.jpg

[Cidersomerset]

Falkvinge: American Empire stands naked by Snowden leaks but not ashamed

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Published on 27 Jun 2013


While the cat-and-mouse game over Edward Snowden continues,
there've been yet more revelations on the US snooping programme.
The NSA has been collecting huge amounts of email data for more
than two years during the Obama administration, and is actually
still mining the US internet. That's according to the british daily,
the Guardian, which was referring to some secret documents.
Rick Falkvinge, the founder of the Swedish Pirate Party gives
more on the issue.

[Cidersomerset]

Chasing Snowden: Don't Shoot The Messenger

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Published on 27 Jun 2013


Edward Snowden's story is worthy of a spy novel. He was charged with espionage
for blowing the lid off US security operations. He was in Hong Kong at the time,
and then reportedly wanted to flee to another country via Russia - but had his
passport revoked by the US. Snowden was expected to show on a flight to Cuba
after he booked a ticket, but journalists were left staring at an empty seat,
instead of the whistleblower - on that Havana-bound plane. RT's Paul Scott,
Thabang Motsei and Ivor Crotty, who've all been monitoring the developments
as they happened, share their opinions on this story.

[Cidersomerset]

Should CIA whistleblower Edward Snowden face trial?

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We discussed his fate with journalists Charlie Wolf and Owen Jones.

" We are a Republic not a democracy ".....


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Greenwald defends NSA leaker Snowden

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The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald reacts to Edward Snowden's flight to Moscow. For
more CNN videos,


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Glenn Greenwald Destroys MSNBC's Attempted Propaganda


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Published on 10 Jun 2013


http://xrepublic.tv Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald, who broke the stories on
the NSA's phone and internet surveillance programs last week and helped reveal on
Sunday the identity of Edward Snowden, the former CIA employee who is behind
the NSA leaks, speaks with Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski about his
interviews with Snowden.

[Cidersomerset]

NSA scandal fallout

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Published on 27 Jun 2013


Since The Guardian first began revealing the secret surveillance
practices of the NSA many government officials have defended
the controversial program.When Edward Snowden was identified
as the man behind the information leak, an international manhunt
has ensued to bring the whistleblower to justice, but could
Snowden's actions have an economic fallout? RT's Sam Sacks
and Bob English join us for more.

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New NSA leaks show email surveillance under Obama

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Published on 27 Jun 2013


Again, The Guardian has published another article about the National Security
Agency's surveillance program. A couple of weeks ago the news outlet reported
how the NSA had been collecting telephone metadata on millions of Americans, but
now it turns out that they had also been collecting email metadata as well. RT's
Meghan Lopez has more.

[Soulboy]

Ooh, I'm lovin' it!



Ecuador snubs US trade ‘blackmail’ over Snowden, offers human rights training

Published time: June 28, 2013 09:40
Reuters / Chris Helgren



Ecuador renounced trade benefits which the US threatened to revoke over the Latin American country’s consideration of harboring NSA leaker Edward Snowden. It offered $23 million a year to fund human rights education for Americans instead.

The government of leftist President Rafael Correa came up with an angry response on Thursday after an influential US senator said he would use his leverage over trade issues to cut preferential treatment of Ecuadoran goods at the US market, should Ecuador grant political asylum to Snowden.

"Ecuador will not accept pressures or threats from anyone, and it does not traffic in its values or allow them to be subjugated to mercantile interests," government spokesman Fernando Alvarado said at a news conference.

He added that Ecuador is willing to allocate $23 million annually, an equivalent of the sum that it gained from the benefits, to fund human rights training in the US. It will "avoid violations of privacy, torture and other actions that are denigrating to humanity," Alvarado said.

US Senator Robert Menendez, who heads the Foreign Relations Committee in the Senate, said this week that Ecuador risks losing the benefits it enjoys under two trade programs because of its stance on the NSA whistleblower.

"Our government will not reward countries for bad behavior," he said.

The US is Ecuador’s prime trade partner, with over 40 percent of exports going to the US market.

Both programs were due to expire by the end of next month and were subject to congressional review. Before the Snowden debacle arose, the US legislature was expected to scrap one of them while renewing another one.

Snowden has applied for political asylum, hoping to find protection from American prosecutors, who charged him with espionage over his leaking of classified documents on US surveillance programs.

He is currently thought to be staying in the transit zone of a Moscow airport. He became stranded in the Russian capital after arriving from Hong Kong, because the US annulled his travel passport as part of its effort to get him to American soil for trial.

[Cidersomerset]

CrossTalk: Whistleblowing 2.0

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Published on 28 Jun 2013


Is the national security state trumping the rule of law?
Does each society need people like Bradley Manning and
Edward Snowden? Is going to the media the only way to
expose government lies? And is the national security
state sustainable? CrossTalking with Charles Wolf,
Elizabeth Goitein and Michael Kohn.

[Cidersomerset]

US Army Censors Snowden Leaks

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Published on 28 Jun 2013


Edward Snowden's leaks about the NSA have been available for Americans to see
on the internet over the last few weeks. But, some Americans don't have access to
news stories about those leaks. Namely, soldiers in the United States Army. On
Thursday, the US Army confirmed that stories regarding the NSA leaks have been
censored from their computer system. So what does it say that the fighting force
entrusted with defending Americans ideals is embracing the very un-Americans
ideal of censorship? Political Commentator Sam Sacks breaks it down.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden's father says his son to come back to US

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Published on 28 Jun 2013


Lately, Ecuador seems to be the go to place where whistleblowers go to seek political
asylum. Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been granted asylum in the South
American country, but the only problem he is trapped in the Ecuadorian embassy in
London. Now, American Whistleblower Edward Snowden is causing more friction
between US-Ecuadorian relations due to his attempt at escaping extradition to the US
for leaking NSA sensitive information regarding their surveillance program. Ecuador has
since renounced its trade agreements with the US and RT's Lucy Kafanov has more from
Moscow.



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Edward Snowden's Father Full Interview w/ Eric Bolling on Fox - 6/17/13 Lonnie Snowden

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Published on 17 Jun 2013


(June 17, 2013) - Eric Bolling teased his exclusive interview with Edward Snowden's
father Lonnie Snowden on this morning Fox and Friends. This afternoon on The
Five, Bolling presented his full interview with the NSA leaker's father, at one point
asking the man to speak directly and frankly into the camera to his son. Lonnie
Snowden told Bolling that he hasn't seen or spoken to his son since early April,
calling Edward a "sensitive, caring young man" who "knows the difference between
what is just and unjust and right and wrong." He described how difficult it has been
to go from thinking his son was missing to discovering he was the one responsible
for leaking NSA secrets.

Snowden said he couldn't have done what his son did, but at the same time he
said, "I don't know what he has seen, what he has been exposed to." He did
express some of very same concerns that his son has expressed when explaining
why he chose to blow the whistle.

"I don't want the government listening to my phone calls. I don't want the
government archiving the places that my other children visit on the internet or that
I visit or my wife visits. I don't want them reading my e-mail. I don't want them
reading my texts. In my opinion, they have no right, not even under the guise of
we need to keep you safe."
At Bolling's request, Snowden looked directly into the camera and spoke to his son,
saying, "we're certainly saddened by your decision, but it has not diminished our
love for you." He added, "I hope, I pray, and I ask that you will not release any
secrets that could constitute treason."

Later in the show, Bolling played one more part of his interview with the elder
Snowden, asking if he wants his son to return to the United States, even if that
meant he would go to prison. "I would rather my son be a prisoner in the U.S.,"
Snowden said, "than a free man in a country that did not have, again the freedoms
that are protected that we have. You know, the U.S. constitution and the Bill of
Rights, that's what defines us, that's what makes America, America."

Bolling has been outspokenly sympathetic towards Edward Snowden and critical of
the Obama administration for its support of the NSA surveillance programs over the
last couple of weeks, which may have helped him land this exclusive sit-down with
Lonnie Snowden. In his introduction to the interview, Bolling said
Snowden "reached out to someone in D.C. that he trusted, and that person
happens to trust me."

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Ecuador's President meanwhile says that Snowden's fate is out of his hands - and
the whistleblower's next move depends on what Russia does. US vice president Joe
Biden urged Ecuador not to grant asylum to Snowden - but they can't do it yet
anyway, because he's not on Ecuadorian territory. Moscow though insists that they
wont be discussing what to do with the 30 year old anytime soon. RT's Thabang
Motsei takes a look back at the whistleblower's journey so far.

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Putin: Snowden can stay in Russia if he stops damaging US

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Published on 1 Jul 2013


President Vladimir Putin says NSA leaker Edward Snowden may stay in Russia, if he
wants to, but only if he stops activities aimed against the United States.

"There is one condition if he wants to remain here: he must stop his work aimed at
damaging our American partners. As odd as it may sound from me," Putin told a
media conference in Moscow. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/wct8fc

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Putin offers U.S. whistleblower Edward Snowden asylum - on condition he stops
damaging 'American partners' with further leaksSnowden has asked for asylum in
Russia, according to a consular officialVladimir Putin said 'Russia never hands
anybody anywhere and has no intention to do so' He said Snowden must stop
damaging leaks if he wants to stay in Russia Snowden asked for asylum in Russia,
according to Russian consular official

Whistleblower is officially staying in the transit area of a Moscow airport

By Will Stewart In Moscow

PUBLISHED: 17:37, 1 July 2013 | UPDATED: 18:32, 1 July 2013




Whistleblower Edward Snowden has asked for asylum in Russia, according to a
Russian consular official.


Kim Shevchenko, the duty officer at the Russian Foreign Ministry's consular office in
Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, has said Snowden's representative, Sarah
Harrison, handed over his request yesterday, according to reports.
Earlier today Vladimir Putin dramatically offered U.S. whistleblower Snowden
political asylum - as long as he stops damaging 'our American partners' with his
leaks. A Russian consular official said Snowden asked for asylum in Russia.


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Snowden applies for political asylum in Russia

Vladmir Putin says US whistleblower can stay if he stops 'bringing harm to our
American partners'

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Miriam Elder in Moscow
The Guardian, Monday 1 July 2013 18.16 BST


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Vladimir Putin hinted Edward Snowden could remain in Russia. Photograph: Ivan Sekretarev/AP


Vladimir Putin has for the first time floated the idea of the US whistleblower Edward
Snowden remaining in Russia, hours after the fugitive applied for political asylum in
the country.Snowden applied for asylum at the consular office at Moscow's
Sheremtyevo airport at 10.30pm on Sunday through his Wikileaks handler, Sarah
Harrison, a consular official said."The UK citizen Sarah Harrison passed on a
request by Edward Snowden to be granted political asylum," said Kim Shevchenko,
a staff member at the airport's consular department. He said he then called the
foreign ministry, who sent a courier one hour later to pick up the request.

He declined to say where Harrison or Snowden, who have not been seen since
landing in Sheremtyevo last week, were staying. "She didn't say and I didn't ask,"
he said.In a move likely to enrage the US, Putin said on Monday: "If he wants to go
somewhere and someone will take him, go ahead. If he wants to stay here, there is
one condition – he must stop his work aimed at bringing harm to our American
partners, as strange as that sounds coming from my mouth."

Snowden has been trapped in Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport since 23 June after
flying in from Hong Kong, from where he leaked top secret documents detailing
NSA surveillance programmes.Stripped of his US passport, he has been stuck in
limbo since. His attempts to gain political asylum in Ecuador, whose London
embassy is currently sheltering the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, appear to
have dried up amid intense US lobbying and reported disagreements within the
Ecuadorian government.

Snowden met Russian diplomats on Monday morning and handed them a list of 15
countries where he would like to apply for political asylum, the Los Angeles Times
reported, citing an unnamed source in the foreign ministry.Putin appeared to leave
himself some latitude, noting that Snowden would be unlikely to meet his
conditions for staying in Russia.

"Considering that he considers himself a human rights activist and a fighter for
human rights, he probably doesn't plan to stop this work, so he should choose a
host country and head there," Putin said. "When this will happen I, unfortunately,
do not know."

Putin, speaking at a press conference after a meeting of gas exporting countries,
reiterated that Russia would not extradite Snowden to the US. "Russia never gives
anyone up and doesn't plan to give anyone up. And no one has ever given us
anyone."For the second time Putin, unprompted, insisted that Snowden was not
working with Russia's secret services. "Mr Snowden is not our agent, never was and
isn't today. Our special services have never worked with him and are not working
with him."

Russia maintains one of the world's most developed intelligence mechanisms and is
widely believed to engage in snooping on its own citizens. In stark contrast to
Russia's approach to Snowden, whom Putin likened to the Soviet-era dissident
Andrei Sakharov, Russian whistleblowers are often attacked – one, the anti-
corruption activist Alexey Navalny, is currently on trial and another, the lawyer
Sergei Magnitsky, died in prison.And yet Assange remains a champion of the
Kremlin. Earlier this month, the WikiLeaks founder, who had a television show on
the Kremlin's English-language propaganda channel Russia Today, said he had
advised Snowden to seek asylum there.

Nicolás Maduro, the Venezuelan president, is currently in Moscow for the two-day
gas conference and it was believed he and Putin would discuss Snowden's fate.
Putin's foreign policy adviser, Yury Ushakov, said the pair had not discussed
Snowden yet.A campaign calling for Snowden to stay in Russia has gathered
momentum since he first arrived in Moscow last week. On Monday , several MPs
and influential Russians floated the idea during a meeting of the Public Chamber, a
body that advises the Kremlin.

"It's not right that Snowden is sitting in this terminal like in a prison," said Sergei
Markov, a former MP who maintains close ties to the Kremlin. "Unlike prison, he
can't even go out and breathe fresh air. On humanitarian grounds, I think he
should be presented with a way to enter Russian territory."

Several MPs said they would nominate Snowden for a Nobel peace prize. The
overtures to Snowden, charged under espionage laws in the US, come as US-Russia
relations plummet to cold war lows.Just before Putin made his comments, one of
his top aides said that US-Russia attempts to find possible solutions to the conflict
around Snowden were rather difficult.

"Of course [Putin and Obama] don't have a decision that would suit both sides, so
they have ordered FSB director [Alexander] Bortnikov and FBI director [Robert]
Mueller to be in constant contact and find possible solutions," Nikolai Patrushev,
head of Russia's security council and a former head of the FSB, told state-run Vesti
television."We must also stress that the task they have is rather difficult, because
they must find a solution within the framework of international law. We can't
directly say today that such norms exist, or that there's a ready recipe," he said.

Since Putin first acknowledged Snowden's arrival in Moscow, officials have
repeatedly noted the absence of a bilateral extradition treaty. Russia has often
expressed concern over its citizens held in the US, namely Viktor Bout, a convicted
arms trafficker with suspected ties to Kremlin officials.

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Barack Obama on Edward Snowden

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US president Barack Obama implies that European countries could be spying
on the US, saying there are plenty of European leaders who want to know what
he is thinking, during a press conference in Tanzania.

Read more here: http://www.channel4.com/news/prism-sp...

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NSA's New Spy Game?

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Published on 1 Jul 2013


The old spy game, as portrayed in Hollywood with moles and secret
briefcase exchanges, is no more. It's been replaced by a new spy
game led by the NSA, which the world is just now finding out about
thanks to Edward Snowden's leaks. The latest leak covers a global
surveillance system run out of the NSA targeting now just enemies
of the United States, but allies as well. So what does this new spy
game look like? And are there any limits to it? Political Commentator
Sam Sacks breaks it down.

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Snowden makes his first statement from Moscow

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Published on 1 Jul 2013


The anti-secrecy website Wikileaks has now released a letter that was allegedly
written by Edward Snowden. It says: "The Obama administration has now adopted
the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing,
it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any
judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A
right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum." Meanwhile, earlier
today, we found out that an anonymous Russian official told the LA Times that
Snowden has now filed for asylum in no fewer than 15 countries. For reaction on
the letter and the latest from the Snowden saga, RT Political Commentator Sam
Sacks and Abby Martin, the host of Breaking the Set, join us.

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2 July 2013 Last updated at 10:56

Edward Snowden 'broadens asylum requests' -

Fugitive US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden has sent asylum requests to 21
countries, according to a statement published by Wikileaks.

They include China, France, Ireland and Venezuela. But six European countries said
the requests were invalid.

And Russia said Mr Snowden later withdrew the application to Moscow as the Kremlin had set conditions

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Edward Snowden: Obama guilty of deceit over extradition

US president pledged to avoid 'wheeling and dealing' while bullying countries that
might grant asylum, says whistleblower


Dan Roberts in Washington and Rory Carroll in Quito

The Guardian, Tuesday 2 July 2013

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Edward Snowden
In the statement released by WikiLeaks, Snowden claimed the US president had
employed the 'old, bad tools of political aggression'. Photograph: Reuters/The
Guardian Edward Snowden has accused Barack Obama of deception for promising
in public to avoid diplomatic "wheeling and dealing" over his extradition, while
privately pressuring countries to refuse his requests for asylum.Snowden, the
surveillance whistleblower who is thought to be trapped in the legal limbo of a
transit zone at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, used his first public comments
since fleeing Hong Kong to attack the US for revoking his passport. He also accused
his country of bullying nations that might grant him asylum.

"On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit
any diplomatic 'wheeling and dealing' over my case," Snowden said in a statement
released by WikiLeaks.

"Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the president
ordered his vice-president to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have
requested protection to deny my asylum petitions. This kind of deception from a
world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are
the old, bad tools of political aggression."

Snowden's increasingly desperate predicament became further apparent on Monday
night with the leak of a letter he had written to Ecuador praising its "bravery" and
expressing "deep respect and sincere thanks" for considering his request for
political asylum.But the change in mood in Quito, already apparent at the end of
last week, was underlined by an interview Rafael Correa, the president, gave to the
Guardian on Monday in which he insisted Ecuador will not now help Snowden leave
Moscow and never intended to facilitate his attempted flight to South America.
Correa blamed earlier signs of encouragement on a misunderstanding by its London
embassy.

"That we are responsible for getting him to Ecuador? It's not logical. The country
that has to give him a safe conduct document is Russia," Correa said at the
presidential palace in Quito. Correa said his government did not intentionally help
Snowden travel from Hong Kong to Moscow with a temporary travel pass. "It was a
mistake on our part."

In his statement through WikiLeaks, which has been assisting him since he left
Hong Kong on 10 June, Snowden contrasted the current US approach to his
extradition with its previous support of political dissidents in other countries.

"For decades the United States of America has been one of the strongest defenders
of the human right to seek asylum," he said. "Sadly, this right, laid out and voted
for by the US in article 14 of the universal declaration of human rights, is now being
rejected by the current government of my country."

Snowden also accused the Obama administration of "using citizenship as a
weapon", which has apparently left him unable to leave the airport in Moscow.

"Although I am convicted of nothing, [the US] has unilaterally revoked my
passport, leaving me a stateless person," he said. "Without any judicial order, the
administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs
to everybody. The right to seek asylum."

Moscow confirmed earlier on Monday that Snowden had applied for political asylum
in Russia. The LA Times said Snowden had made similar applications to a total of 15
countries.The former NSA contractor struck a defiant tone on Monday night. "In
the end, the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley
Manning or Thomas Drake," he said. "We are stateless, imprisoned or powerless.
No, the Obama administration is afraid of you.

"It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government
it was promised – and it should be. I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed
at the efforts taken by so many."

His statement also came shortly after one of Obama's top intelligence officials, US
director of national intelligence, James Clapper, was forced to apologise to
Congress</a> for "erroneous" claims that the US did not collect data on its own
citizens.Snowden paid tribute to those who had helped him force such disclosures.

"One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety
were under threat for revealing the truth," he said.

"My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family,
and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my
life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be
thankful."


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Edward Snowden withdraws Russian asylum request

NSA whistleblower withdraws asylum request after Putin says he could stay only if he stopped harming US interests
Miriam Elder in Moscow

guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 2 July 2013 10.20 BST

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Edward Snowden has withdrawn his request fior political asylum in Russia.
Photograph: The Guardian/AFP/Getty Images


Edward Snowden has withdrawn his request for political asylum from Russia, the
Kremlin said on Tuesday, further adding to the uncertainty over the US
whistleblower's future.A spokesman for Russian president Vladimir Putin said
Snowden withdrew the request after Putin's statement making clear that he would
be welcome only if he stopped "his work aimed at bringing harm" to the United
States.

"Snowden really asked to remain in Russia," Dmitry Peskov, the spokesman,
said. "Learning yesterday of Russia's position… he abandoned his intentions and his
request to get the possibility to stay in Russia."

Russia has refused to hand over Snowden, charged under espionage laws in the US
after leaking top-secret documents on US surveillance programmes. He has been
kept hidden away since 23 June, when he landed in Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport
from Hong Kong.His attempts to win asylum have been fraught with difficulty.
Rafael Correa, president of Ecuador, told the Guardian that his country, whose
London embassy is sheltering WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, was not
considering Snowden's asylum request.

He also said Ecuador never intended to facilitate Snowden's flight from Hong Kong,
calling his London consul's decision to issue temporary travel documents to
Snowden "a mistake".

Speaking to Reuters in Moscow on Tuesday on the second day of a two-day visit,
Nicolas Maduro, the Venezuelan president, said Snowden "deserves the world's
protection".

He said Venezuela had not yet received an asylum request from Snowden. Asked
whether he would take Snowden back to Venezuela with him, Maduro answered
wryly: "What we're taking with us are multiple agreements that we're signing with
Russia, including oil and gas." But he added his support for the US
whistleblower: "Edward Snowden is a 29-year-old young, brave man who didn't kill
anyone, didn't give any reason for the start of war," Russian news agencies cited
Maduro as saying.A WikiLeaks statement released early on Tuesday said that in
addition to Ecuador and Iceland, Snowden had made asylum requests to 19
countries, including Venezuela, China, Bolivia, France and Germany.

Maduro said Venezuela would examine the asylum request once it was
received. "We think this young person has done something very important for
humanity, has done a favour to humanity, has spoken great truths to deconstruct a
world… that is controlled by an imperialist American elite," he said.


At least two countries where Snowden requested asylum have said they will not
cooperate. Radoslaw Sikorski, the Polish foreign minister, said that Snowden's
request did "not meet the requirements for a formal application for asylum. Even if
it did, I will not give a positive recommendation."

Finland said on Tuesday that it could not accept his application as Finnish law
required him to be in the country. Finnish foreign ministry spokeswoman Tytti
Pylkko said that Snowden had sent his request by fax to Finland's embassy in
Moscow.Peskov did not detail how Snowden withdrew his asylum request from
Russia. The request was handed to a Russian consular official at Moscow's
Sheremetyevo airport late on Sunday via Snowden's WikiLeaks handler, Sarah
Harrison.In an awkwardly phrased statement released via WikiLeaks late on
Monday, Snowden accused the Obama administration of "using citizenship as a
weapon" and placing undue pressure on countries where he had applied for asylum.

John Kerry, the US secretary of state, spoke with his Russian counterpart, Sergey
Lavrov on Tuesday on the sidelines of a summit of the Association of Southeast
Asian Nations (Asean) on Tuesday. Lavrov told reporters that the two did not
discuss Snowden.


• According to WikiLeaks, Snowden has requested asylum from Austria, Bolivia,
Brazil, China, Cuba, Ecuador, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, India, Italy,
Ireland, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Russia, Spain, Switzerland,
Venezuela.


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Scapegoating at its finest.
Just a tad more scary to blow the whistle now huh? Job done.

We shall see.

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Venezuela considers asylum for Snowden

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Published on 2 Jul 2013


NSA leaker Edward Snowden is running out of options when it comes
to seeking political asylum for his involvement in releasing sensitive
information about the American spying program to The Guardian.
Although the whistleblower is stuck in a Moscow airport, he has
applied for asylum to dozens of countries. Many countries have
denied his request, but Venezuela's president has publicly supported
the leaker and may fulfill the request. Egor Piskunov has more from Moscow.

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The suspicion is that Edward Snowden is on the plane.


Evo Morales is held in Europe, says the vice-president of Bolivia
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According to reports, President García Linera is stuck in an airport in Austria and says the cancellation of flight clearances are orchestrated by the United States

La Paz, July 2, 2013 (VTV) - Vice President Alvaro Garcia Linera Bolivia, reported that President Evo Morales is abducted in Europe, following the refusal of several countries to allow the transit of your plane to your space air.

SOURCE: System Bolivarian Comunicación e Información. (http://www.vtv.gob.ve/articulos/2013/07/02/evo-morales-esta-secuestrado-en-europa-asegura-vicepresidente-de-bolivia-8973.html)

Morales plane is forced to land in Austria on suspicion of carrying Snowden

The plane carrying the president of Bolivia, Evo Morales, made an emergency landing in Austria after leaving Moscow, according to Russian TV. The unscheduled landing was made after France, Portugal and Italy revoke landing and overflight permission for their territories.

Russian television speculated that former CIA consultant Edward Snowden could be aboard the presidential plane. RTP (Radio and Television of Portugal) said that the flight was forbidden to land on Portuguese territory because Snowden was on board on the way to Bolivia.

The Bolivian government, through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, denied that the U.S. is on board and said the decision to Portugal and France was due to "sovereign lie." Later, the Austrian government has confirmed that former CIA consultant was not on the plane.

The foreign minister of Bolivia, David Choquehuanca, said Portugal and France put the life of President Morales at risk. "We want to express our discomfort and uneasiness, because he put the president's life at risk," he said at a news conference in La Paz

Morales returned to Bolivia in the presidential plane, coming from Moscow, where he attended a summit of natural gas producing countries and met with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin. The Bolivian president had to make a technical stopover in Portugal, Lisbon but "inexplicably announced that we had canceled the permission for overflight and landing," said Choquehuanca.

With this measure, explained that "a new flight plan was prepared for the president" landed in Spain after the consent of that country so that the aircraft "was replenished in the Canary Islands." But when Morales "was on the air, in France announced that the authorization for overflight French territory had been canceled."

He stressed that the measure, it seems, was due to the "rumor" that the aircraft's representative was the informant American Edward Snowden, who is required by the United States after revealing spy programs of the U.S. government. "This is information that was circulating, information maliciously to harm the country (...) is a big lie," he insisted.

The Foreign Minister of Ecuador, Ricardo Patiño said that decisions Lisbon and Paris were "tremendous harm" to President Evo Morales. Patiño said he will request an "extraordinary meeting" of foreign ministers of the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR) to analyze the incident with Morales and allegations of Snowden.

"Unable to suspect that the plane traveled Morales Mr. Snowden, and had the audacity to deny a president of a South American republic passing through its airspace. This seems to me a tremendous offense." "From here we send our solidarity to President Morales and the rejection of what happened to him."

On the evening of Tuesday, Morales's plane landed at Vienna Airport "without Edward Snowden" aboard, an official of the Austrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. "President Morales will depart early on Wednesday to La Paz," said Alexander Schallenberg.

Source: EARTH Brazil (http://noticias.terra.com.br/mundo/europa/aviao-de-morales-e-forcado-a-pousar-na-austria-por-suspeita-de-levar-snowden,244c8046261af310VgnVCM5000009ccceb0aRCRD.html)

Bolivia accuses U.S. of orchestrating the presidential plane crash landing


Defense Minister of Bolivia, Rubén Saavedra, on Tuesday accused the United States of being behind the crash landing of the plane in Vienna's official president, Evo Morales.

"This was orchestrated, arranged by the U.S. State Department, which, using some European countries, has caused this situation, with the suspicion that the presidential plane was Mr. Snowden," Saavedra told Efe in Vienna.

On the other hand, Saavedra confirmed that Italy refused to Bolivian aircraft overflying its airspace, while Spain gave its green light and France withdrew its initial ban.

The official Defense referred to rumors that the former coach of the CIA, Edward Snowden, located in the transit area of ​​the airport in Moscow nine days ago, was on board the plane official Bolivian President Morales as something that both Saavedra himself categorically denied.

"What we want is to denounce the attitude abusive, arrogant and discriminatory government authorities of France, especially, and also Portugal, which did not allow the presidential plane of the Bolivian state could fulfill their itinerary," said Saavedra.

"It seems like a reprehensible attitude a discriminatory act against Bolivia and President Evo Morales," the minister added.

"We reject this categorically, never, never entered our heads, we never thought to do this kind of action. We are very respectful of the rules of international law," Saavedra said about the possibility of bringing in Snowden presidential plane.

In a subsequent press conference at Vienna airport, the Bolivian minister denounced that were violated international law immunity of heads of state, while they had put "at high risk the life of the main leader of Bolivia."

Source: EARTH Brazil (http://noticias.terra.com.br/mundo/america-latina/bolivia-acusa-eua-de-orquestrarem-aterrissagem-forcada-de-aviao-presidencial,16f1beee69b9f310VgnCLD2000000ec6eb0aRCRD.html)

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Snowden rumored to be on Bolivian president's plane

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Published on 2 Jul 2013


Bolivian president's plane rerouted in Austria amidst Snowden scare Reports are
coming in that Bolivian leader Evo Morales' plane was forced to make an emergency
landing in Austria on suspicion that NSA leaker Edward Snowden might be on
board. Bolivia's foreign minister, David Choquehuanca, said it was a lie and
Snowden was not on the plane. Associated Press reports indicate that the plane
was rerouted to Austria after France and Portugal refused to let it cross into their
airspace. President Morales was in Russia attending an energy and gas summit. He
sat down for an exclusive interview with RT Spanish earlier today, where he told
reporters that he would absolutely consider granting Snowden asylum. WikiLeaks
announced today that Snowden has applied for asylum in no fewer than 21
countries-- including some of the very countries his NSA documents prove the US
was spying on. RT's political commentator Sam Sacks breaks it down.

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I had seen the movie years ago, but like the poster on this vid I was blown
away watching it again with knowledge I have picked up on Avalon open
university forum and else where...LOL...Steve



Enemy of the State (1998) Predicts Edward Snowden's Revelations

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june 2013

Enemy of the State was made in 1998 and stars Gene Hackman,
Lisa Bonet, Regina King, Will Smith, Jack Black, Jon Voight, and
Jason Lee. This all-star cast stars in a film that performed well
in its time, yet seems all the more relevant, intelligent, and
interesting today. Edward Snowden didn't say too much that
this movie didn't exactly say! It's pretty mind-blowing how
intelligent and well-informed script-writers were... or at least
they were great guessers.

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Snowden inspired by Manning to reveal NSA spying?

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Published on 2 Jul 2013


Leaker Edward Snowden has been scrambling to find asylum after leaking details of
the NSA's elaborate spying program on Americans. As of now, no country has
granted the 30-year-old sanctuary to avoid extradition to the US for his actions, but
according to some reports Snowden was inspired by Private first class Bradley
Manning. Michael Brooks, producer for The Majority Report, compares the two
whistleblowers

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'Imperial Skyjacking': Bolivian pres. jet grounded in Austria over rumours Snowden

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Published on 2 Jul 2013


Bolivia was left outraged after a number of European states refused to
let a plane carrying its President enter their airspace. All because of
rumours that surveillance whistleblower Edward Snowden, may have
been on board. RT's Egor Piskunov has more on the mile-high asylum
drama. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/hcs26s

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Russell Brand on his recent comedy pro mo tour
still popping up on political programmes...

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I just ran into this post over at Rumor Mill News by "Watchman":


Posted By: Watchman
Date: Wednesday, 3-Jul-2013 15:17:43

“The world will be shocked” by the next story on the National Security Agency’s vast spying operations, said Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist leading the exposure—made possible by leaks from whistleblower Edward Snowden—of the agency’s far-reaching surveillance.

Glenn Greenwald (R) speaking with Eric Bolling on Fox & Friends about the ongoing revelations of NSA spying and whistleblower Edward Snowden.Speaking Tuesday morning with conservative host Eric Bolling on Fox News’ Fox & Friends, Greenwald hinted that a new NSA story was forthcoming and potentially explosive.

When asked if he was ready to unveil a new NSA scoop, Greenwald responded:

I will say that there are vast programs of both domestic and international spying that the world will be shocked to learn about that the NSA is engaged in with no democratic accountability, and that’s what’s driving our reporting.

Greenwald also gave a preview of this next exposé over the weekend during a speech given to the Socialism 2013 conference, saying it would report on “a brand new technology [that] enables the National Security Agency to redirect into its own repositories one billion cell phones calls every single day.”

The example the Obama administration is setting with Snowden, Greenwald explained to Bolling, is to give a warning to future whistleblowers that the repercussions will be swift and harsh.

I think what the Obama administration wants and has been trying to establish for the last almost five years now with the unprecedented war on whistleblowers that it is waging is to make it so that everybody is petrified of coming forward with information about what our political officials are doing in the dark that is deceitful, illegal or corrupt.

They don’t care about Edward Snowden at this point; he can no longer do anything that he hasn’t already done. What they care about is making an extremely negative example out of him to intimidate future whistleblowers from coming forward because they’ll think that they’re going to end up like him. That’s their objective.

On what he sees as “Snowden’s endgame,” Greenwald, who said he has not seen the whistleblower since he left Hong Kong, replied:

Well, from the very first time that I spoke with him he said that he completely understood that once he came forward against the U.S. government and the Obama administration that he would become the most wanted man on earth, and would be hunted down by the world’s most powerful state, and that he felt that it was worthwhile to do that because he could not in good conscience allow this massive spying program aimed at the American people to be constructed in the dark. And he said obviously he wants to stay out of the clutches of the U.S. government given the way they’ve persecuted whistleblowers. He’s obviously trying to find a place where he can do that but his real goal is to continue to be part of the conversation about why he did what he did, what it is that he saw in the NSA, how these spying powers were being abused, and to continue to make people around the world and his fellow citizens in the United States aware of what their government is doing.

Later on the program, Fox News legal analyst Peter Johnson Jr. said that Greenwald has been “involved with the WikiLeaks” and “has it a little bit mixed up.” Johnson called Greenwald “almost a flack, the alter-ego for the media” for Snowden.

In the interview with Bolling, Greenwald explained:

This is what journalism is about—shining a light on what the most powerful people in the country are doing to them in the dark.

Johnson said that “transparency is the issue”—not the transparency of the U.S. government, officials or the NSA’s vast surveillance program—but about Mr. Greenwald, whom he said may be an “advocacy journalist,” not “merely a reporter.”

Vid at link:

The link is this:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2521219620001/glenn-greenwald-talks-breaking-nsa-story/

....waiting on the sidelines....

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Should Edward Snowden go back to the US?


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Published on 3 Jul 2013


Jon Snow speaks to the American columnist and lawyer,
Glenn Greenwald, who was central to the publication of
Edward Snowden's revelations in the Guardian newspaper,
about the next steps for the whistleblower.



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Published on 3 Jul 2013


Diplomatic tensions surrounding the fate of the US
whistleblower Edward Snowden continued to spiral
outwards across the world.

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Clare Daly Rebukes Bootlicking Irish PM on Snowden

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Published on 3 Jul 2013
Leaders Questions Assylum for Edward Snowden

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Here is the conversation that should be taking place in the media and public forums (from the Empire series by Aljazeera):

All this surveillance by the NSA is actually done by private companies who have a profit motive (more, more, more), and who finance political campaigns, so what and who is driving the American security system?

What has gone wrong with the political system (not only in America, because I see this happening all over the world)?

What are the practical implications for what the American security system is doing, for the individual and for the world outside America?

Is this surveillance necessary, i.e. does it actually work in securing Americans against threats?

This is a very intelligent debate, that takes place on a rooftop, which is an ironic metaphor (even though this is the interviewing style of Marwan Bishara, the host)

Here's the link to the Al Jazeera website: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/empire/2013/06/2013629144355832213.html

Here it is on YouTube:

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Thanks sdv a good summery at the beginning, Its obvious to us that 1990 was the
end of one meme The Cold war and the beginning of the NWO via the Neo cons and
other confederates around the world. The 'War on Terror' the current meme is the
perfect vehicle for the surveillance state, 'Big Bros' to take control for the corporate
elites and the puppet masters behind the scenes.

The mainstream media the real digital battlefield has been captured and run by
them from day one , but certainly since the late 70's after their defeat in
Vietnam propaganda war, they have been in control starting with the
Falkands war and the British innovation of imbedding the war correspondents
like in ww11 controlling for the most part what/where they can report for their
safety.

The battle ground in now being fought for the web, with U'tubes, mobile phone
footage, bloggers, alternate news outlets the NSA, Mi6 etc are still trying to stay
infront . The biggest elephant iin the room is still, many important educated
middleclass buearocrats cannot get there head around 9/11 was a inside job to
escalate and prosecute the 'War On Trerror'....

Oliver Stone summed it up pretty well......Also Richard Rowley & Jeremy Scahill
were very good. But they still skirt around the subject.

The psychiatrist at the end had some good points,

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Escobar: 'Imperial hijack' reopens asylum bid for Snowden in Latin America

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Published on 4 Jul 2013


Latin American leaders meet to discuss the "hijack" of Bolivian president
Evo Morales' plane in Austria. Regional leaders presented a united front,
defending Latin American sovereignty in the face of what they see as
post-colonial imperialism.

International affairs analyst Pepe Escobar says such a turnover in Snowden
chase could significantly increase NSA Whistleblower's chances on asylum
in one of Latin America's countries.

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Restore the Fourth: Nationwide anti-NSA spying protests hit US

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Published on 4 Jul 2013


An anti-NSA surveillance nationwide protest and online campaign
was triggered on Thursday. It aimed to restore the Fourth
Amendment of the Bill of Rights, which protects US citizens
from "unreasonable searches and seizures." - TIMELINE HERE
http://on.rt.com/lwyj92

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Thanks sdv a good summery at the beginning, Its obvious to us that 1990 was the
end of one meme The Cold war and the beginning of the NWO via the Neo cons and
other confederates around the world. The 'War on Terror' the current meme is the
perfect vehicle for the surveillance state, 'Big Bros' to take control for the corporate
elites and the puppet masters behind the scenes.

The mainstream media the real digital battlefield has been captured and run by
them from day one , but certainly since the late 70's after their defeat in
Vietnam propaganda war, they have been in control starting with the
Falkands war and the British innovation of imbedding the war correspondents
like in ww11 controlling for the most part what/where they can report for their
safety.

The battle ground in now being fought for the web, with U'tubes, mobile phone
footage, bloggers, alternate news outlets the NSA, Mi6 etc are still trying to stay
infront . The biggest elephant iin the room is still, many important educated
middleclass buearocrats cannot get there head around 9/11 was a inside job to
escalate and prosecute the 'War On Trerror'....

Oliver Stone summed it up pretty well......Also Richard Rowley & Jeremy Scahill
were very good. But they still skirt around the subject.

The psychiatrist at the end had some good points,

Maybe we are all foil-hat wearing conspiracy lunatics here on PA, but when you start digging, everything kind-of leads back to the same place. The US government is being played by the corporate sector, which is owned by ...

To focus on Edward Snowden (is he a hero or a traitor - neither in my opinion), or the NSA, or the Obama government (all places where the media is focusing the debate) is to avoid the meaningful conversation, to not deal with the real truth.

You summed it up more eloquently than I do by joining the dots!

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Good to see Americans protesting, but you need millions in the street marching, across America, day after day. This was just my experience of the anti-apartheid movement (which was not just the ANC!).

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Haven't seen this posted here as yet... found it just recently.
Its a rarity, but perhaps more U.S. politicians will be climbing onto this bandwagon...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffSD2zRX-kQ

Also, the more the alternative news outlets keep on this story, continuing to interview those who have been calling a spade, a spade, for quite some time now, it puts more & more pressure on the mainstream media outlets, as it shows they have been rather delinquent about providing much of a service to the public.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QQB0gyJrKs

turiya :cool:

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John Pilger on the forcing down of Evo Morales's plane and Edward Snowden:

"Forcing down Evo Morales's plane was an act of air piracy
Denying the Bolivian president air space was a metaphor for the gangsterism that now rules the world"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/04/forcing-down-morales-plane-air-piracy

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Are the NSA's surveillance programs actually legal?

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Published on 5 Jul 2013


It has been nearly one month since Edward Snowden disclosed the National
Security Agency's domestic spying program that involved collecting metadata
on all phone calls in the US and spying on the online activity of its citizens.
President Barack Obama has claimed that the program is transparent and is
necessary to protect Americans from potential terrorist attacks, but is it legal?
Heidi Boghosian, executive director

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Iceland parliament declines Snowden's citizenship bid


http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20130705&t=2&i=747953649&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=CDEE9641IYV00





(Reuters) - A bid by Edward Snowden for Icelandic citizenship failed when the
country's parliament voted not to debate it before the summer recess, lawmakers
said on Friday, with options for the U.S. fugitive narrowing by the day.

The vote leaves Snowden - believed to be staying in a transit area at a Moscow
airport - with one option fewer as he seeks a country to shelter him from U.S.
espionage charges.Following the news in Iceland, WikiLeaks announced that
Snowden had applied to another six countries for asylum, adding to a list of more
than a dozen countries which he has already asked for protection.

The anti-secrecy organisation, which has been supporting Snowden's efforts to find
a safe haven since his exit from Hong Kong 12 days ago, said on Twitter it could
not reveal the names the countries due to "attempted U.S. interference".
Six members of Iceland's parliament tabled a proposal late on Thursday to grant
Snowden citizenship after they received a request from him via WikiLeaks,
opposition parliamentarian Birgitta Jonsdottir said.

But a majority of parliamentarians voted late on Thursday against allowing the
proposal to be put on the agenda, a day before parliament went into summer
recess. It does not reconvene until September.

"Snowden has formally requested citizenship. But nothing is now going to happen.
We could not even vote on it," Jonsdottir told Reuters.

In a letter dated July 4, posted on Jonsdottir's blog, Snowden wrote that he had
been left "de facto-stateless" by his government, which revoked his passport after
he fled the country and leaked information about U.S. surveillance operations.
Most of the countries he has already sought asylum in, including Iceland, say he
must be on their soil for his application to be accepted.

His request for citizenship was a different tack, hoping that Iceland would give him
a passport, as it has done in at least one similar case in the past.

"I appreciate that Iceland, a small but significant country in the world community,
shows such courage and commitment to its higher laws and ideals," he wrote in the
letter.Under Icelandic law, parliament can grant citizenship to foreigners, which can
otherwise usually only be gained through naturalisation after a period of residence.

Chess master Bobby Fischer was granted Icelandic citizenship by parliament after
he got into trouble with the United States over tax evasion and breaking sanctions
by playing a match in Yugoslavia in 1992.After years living abroad, he was detained
in Japan, where he applied for and was awarded Icelandic citizenship in 2005. He
spent his last years in Iceland before dying in 2008.

Iceland's recently elected centre-right government is seen as far less willing to
engage in an international dispute with the United States than the previous
government, even if it will want to maintain the country's reputation for promoting
Internet freedom.

"It is a disappointment that he is facing limited options," WikiLeaks Icelandic
spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson told Reuters. "I am not optimistic that the new
conservative government will take steps of courage and boldness to assist Mr
Snowden."

Russia has shown signs of growing impatience over Snowden's stay in the country.

Its deputy foreign minister said on Thursday that Snowden had not sought asylum
in the country and needed to choose a place to go.Moscow has made clear that the
longer he stays, the greater the risk of the diplomatic standoff over his fate causing
lasting damage to relations with Washington.

(Additional reporting by Alistair Scrutton and Mia Shanley in Stockholm, Steve
Gutterman in Moscow, Editing by Michael Roddy)


http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/07/05/usa-security-snowden-iceland-idINDEE9640DD20130705

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Looks like Venezuela will give asylum to Snowden. Thank god for socialist governments.

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Bolivian president threatens to close US embassy

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Published on 6 Jul 2013


Earlier this week, Bolivian President Evo Morales' plane was downed in Austria
after suspicion that NSA leaker Edward Snowden was onboard attempting to
avoid extradition to the US. It turned out that Snowden wasn't on board and
now Morales has gathered the support of several South American presidents
in asking for an apology from the European countries involved in the matter.
Margaret Howell has more.

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6 July 2013 Last updated at 07:02

Venezuela and Nicaragua make Snowden asylum offersThe presidents of Venezuela
and Nicaragua explain their offers


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The presidents of both Nicaragua and Venezuela have indicated their countries
could offer political asylum to US fugitive Edward Snowden.

Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro said it would give asylum to the intelligence leaker,
who is believed to be holed up in a transit area of Moscow airport.

Meanwhile Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega said his country would do so "if
circumstances permit".

Read More...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23201774

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Oliver Stone defends Edward Snowden over NSA revelations

The outspoken film-maker hails the whistlebower as a 'hero' at Czech film festival
and claims that 'the United States has repeatedly violated the fourth amendment'


Xan Brooks

guardian.co.uk, Friday 5 July 2013 14.53 BST




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Oliver Stone
The film-maker has voiced his support for Edward Snowden. Photograph: Francois Duhamel

Oliver Stone, never one to run scared from a controversy, yesterday waded into the
ongoing NSA debate, defending the American whistlebower Edward Snowden and
hailing him as a "hero" for exposing the US's mass surveillance programme.

"It's a disgrace that Obama is more concerned with hunting down Snowden than
reforming these George Bush-style eavesdropping techniques," the Oscar-winning
director told audiences at the Karlovy Vary international film festival in the Czech
Republic.Snowden, 30, is living in a transit zone in a Moscow airport where he is
seeking asylum from federal prosecution in the US. He is believed to have applied
for asylum in 20 countries - thus far without result. In the meantime, his
revelations have sparked a diplomatic crisis. In the past few days both the German
and French leaders have described the NSA's surveillance program
as "unacceptable".

"To me Snowden is a hero because he revealed secrets that we should all know,
that the United States has repeatedly violated the fourth amendment," Stone
said. "He should be welcomed and offered asylum. But he has no place to hide
because every country is intimidated by the United States."

Stone, 66, was at the festival to unveil episodes of his new Showtime TV series,
Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States, as well as the extended
"ultimate" cut of his 2004 epic Alexander.

The film-maker's vocal support for Snowden is entirely in character. In recent
months Stone has also thrown his weight behind WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange,
visiting the activist at his base at the Ecuadorian embassy in London and criticising
the depiction of Assange in two upcoming Hollywood pictures. "Julian Assange did
much for free speech," Stone has said. "And he is now being victimised by the
abusers of the concept."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jul/05/oliver-stone-edward-snowden-nsa

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Imperial Persecution Free: Venezuela offers Snowden asylum

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Published on 6 Jul 2013


Stranded NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden finally has a place to go.
Venezuela has decided to offer him asylum, and an escape from the legal
limbo which has left him stranded in a Moscow airport since last month.
Snowden is wanted in the US on espionage charges for leaking details
of America's global spy programme.

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US Snowden Extradition Request to Venezuela (http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/07/06/edward-snowdens-extradition-request/)
By: emptywheel (http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/07/06/edward-snowdens-extradition-request/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=edward-snowdens-extradition-request) Saturday July 6, 2013 10:03 am

As I noted last night, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro offered Edward Snowden asylum last night. (The Spanish was “hemos decidido” and “he decidido ofrecerle asilio” which included none of the sense of hypothetical that Nicaragua’s President Daniel Ortega used.)

The government has released the extradition request (http://www.emptywheel.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/130703-Snowden-Extradition-request.pdf) they’ve sent to the Venezuelan government.

Perhaps the most interesting detail is the date: July 3. Way back when Maduro was (unless I’ve lost track of his chronology), still in Russia or Belarus, and when Bolivian President Evo Morales was making a big stink (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/03/evo-morales-controversial-flight-over-europe-minute-by-heavily-disputed-minute/) about being “kidnapped” in Vienna.

Since that time, Maduro finished his visit (http://news.belta.by/en/news/politics?id=720132) in Belarus. Flew (presumably with a refueling stop somewhere and possibly a stop at home) to Cochabamba, Bolivia, where at least 6 South American leaders either were personally or had sent a representative (in addition to Morales and Maduro, the Presidents of Ecuador, Suriname, Argentina, and Uruguay were present, Brazils Dilma Rousseff had sent a representative, as had, according to some reports, Peru and Chile).







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Then Maduro returned home in time for Venezuela’s Independence Day celebration, where he issued his statement offering asylum.

It appears that after the US issued the extradition request to Venezuela, they issued an arrest warrant (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/us-sends-government-an-arrest-warrant-for-snowden-1.1453364) to Ireland.

Now, perhaps the US has real intelligence saying that Snowden remains in Russia. But these are the people who were sure he was on Morales’ plane just a few days ago. And they don’t really seem all too sure about where Snowden is.

Update: This is one of the few stories (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-international/maduro-morales-leave-russia-sans-snowden/article4879003.ece) I’ve seen that affirmatively said Snowden was still in Russia after Maduro’s departure, based on a single Russian security source.

Update: And this has more Russian sources (http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-snowden-moscow-20130706,0,6155930.story) stating he remains stuck in Russia.

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France snoops on citizens while slamming US over spying


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Published on 7 Jul 2013


Brussels is threatening to suspend its data-sharing with Washington, fresh on the heels
of revelations about the NSA's mass eavesdropping on Europe. The EU is
demanding 'complete transparency and maximum information' from the US. That's
despite recent reports revealing its own snooping activities - France is believed to be
running a version of the NSA's infamous Prism program. RT's Maria Finoshina
investigates.

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US attempts to block Edward Snowden are 'bolstering' case for asylum

As Venezuela and Nicaragua offer help to whistleblower, experts say US actions are
strengthening his case for safe haven
Jamie Doward

The Observer, Sunday 7 July 2013


Ortega and Maduro
Nicaragua's president, Daniel Ortega (right), and his Venezuelan counterpart
Nicolas Maduro have offered support to Edward Snowden. Photograph: Inti
Ocon/AFP/Getty

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Attempts by the US to close down intelligence whistleblower Edward Snowden's
asylum options are strengthening his case to seek a safe harbour outside of Russia,
legal experts claim.Snowden, who is believed to be in the transit area of Moscow's
Sheremetyevo airport, has received provisional offers of asylum from Nicaragua
and Venezuela, and last night Bolivia also offered him sanctuary. He has applied to
at least six other countries, says the Wikileaks organisation providing legal support.

Michael Bochenek, director of law and policy at Amnesty International, said the
American government's actions were bolstering Snowden's case. He said claims
that the US had sought to reroute the plane of Bolivia's president, Evo Morales,
amid reports that the fugitive former analyst for the National Security Agency was
on board, and suggestions that vice-president Joe Biden had phoned the
Ecuadorean leader, Rafael Correa, to block asylum for Snowden, carried serious
implications.

"Interfering with the right to seek asylum is a serious problem in international law,"
Bochenek said. "It is further evidence that he [Snowden] has a well-founded fear of
persecution. This will be relevant to any state when considering an application.
International law says that somebody who fears persecution should not be returned
to that country."

Venezuela's extradition treaties with the US contain clauses that allow it to reject
requests if it believes they are politically motivated. The country's president,
Nicolas Maduro, has praised Snowden for being a "young man who told the truth"
and has criticised European countries' alleged role in the rerouting of Morales's
plane last week .

"The European people have seen the cowardice and the weakness of their
governments, which now look like colonies of the US," he said on Friday.

Spain said it had been warned that Snowden was on the Bolivian presidential plane,
the first acknowledgement that the manhunt was linked to the plane's diversion to
Austria. Foreign minister José Manuel Garcia-Margallo said: "They told us that the
information was clear, that he was inside." He did not say who "they" were or
whether he had been in contact with the US.

Speaking from Buenos Aires, Bochenek said the US actions were transforming the
Snowden affair into a global saga. "In PR terms, opinion here and elsewhere in
Latin America has shifted precisely because of the appearance of interference with
other governments' decision-making processes," he said.

Bochenek said there was no reason why Snowden could not be granted asylum
without setting foot in the country that had granted him refuge. The need to be
present in the country where asylum is granted is a convention that can be ignored
if nations see fit, he said.

"It's true that a lot of states have that as a rule in their own domestic
requirements, but it is not required by international law," he said.

Neither did placing Snowden on an Interpol "red flag" list mean that states had to
hand him over to the US. The procedure is an advisory measure that can be
ignored, legal experts said.A decision to give Snowden refuge has political
consequences for Maduro, and provides his critics with ammunition.

Venezuela's opposition leader, Henrique Capriles, has accused Maduro of using
Snowden to distract voters from economic woes at home. "Nicolas, you can't use
asylum to cover up that you stole the election. That doesn't give you legitimacy,
nor make the people forget," he said on Twitter.

Nicaragua's president, Daniel Ortega, said he was willing to offer asylum, "if
circumstances allow it", although he did not say what the circumstances would be.
Venezuela, though, appears a more likely host.

"Asylum for Snowden in Venezuela would be the best solution," Alexei Pushkov,
chairman of the international affairs committee of Russia's lower house of
parliament, said on Twitter. "That country is in a sharp conflict with the US."

However, there are no direct commercial flights between Moscow and Caracas, and
the usual route involves changing planes in Havana.It is not clear whether the
Cuban authorities would grant Snowden transit. However, Cuba has expressed
sympathy for Snowden's situation and accused the US of "trampling" on other
states' sovereignty.

Meanwhile, spotting Snowden is becoming a popular game among people passing
through Sheremetyevo airport.

"I offered my kids $200 to get a picture of him," said Simon Parry, a Briton who
expressed sympathy for Snowden after spending a couple of hours in the airport.

"The wireless internet is appalling, the prices are awful, and people never smile,"
Parry said. "So I commend him for making it 24 hours, let alone two weeks. I might
rather face trial."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/07/us-attempts-block-snowden-bolster-case-asylum

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Why the Washington Post doesn't know it's left from right

US newspaper digs deep into Edward Snowden affair while urging US government
crackdown on intelligence leaks

Peter Preston

The Observer, Sunday 7 July 2013


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Demonstration Edward Snowden

A demonstrator holds a sign with a photograph of Edward Snowden during Fourth
of July Independence Day celebrations in Boston, Massachusetts. Photograph: Brian
Snyder/Reuters


American papers still think that having a separate, quasi-independent editor of its
leader and op-ed pages makes pure, dispassionate sense. So while the Washington
Post, in the wake of the Guardian, pounds out stories from the Ed Snowden
archive, Washington Post editorials call on the US government to stop leaks
that "harm efforts to fight terrorism and conduct legitimate intelligence operations".
Potty? Of course. But at least the old Post didn't tell Woodward and Bernstein to
play the Star Spangled Banner.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jul/07/does-washington-post-know-left-from-right

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The Resident: Welcome to the Snowden Movie

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Published on 7 Jul 2013


Edward Snowden recently revealed that the US is effectively spying on everyone,
domestically and internationally, by collecting, decyphering, and storing all of our
digital communications. But in actuality, the story is old news. Wired magazine
ran the story in April of 2012, and USA Today published a similar article as early
as 2006. So why is the world just now enraged? The Resident (aka Lori Harfenist)
discusses. Follow The Resident at

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Snowden strikes again: 'NSA in bed with Germany'

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Published on 8 Jul 2013


US fugitive Edward Snowden has accused Germany and the US of partnering in spy
intelligence operations, revealing that cooperation between the countries is closer than
German indignation would indicate, Der Spiegel magazine reported. Journalist Manuel
Ochsenreiter says German politicians are furious - but about being exposed, not by
being spied on

[Cidersomerset]

NSA leaker Snowden offered asylum in Latin America


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Published on 8 Jul 2013


Over the weekend, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia offered NSA
leaker Edward Snowden asylum for his role in exposing the American
surveillance program that was collecting data for millions of people.
The only problem that remains, can Snowden leave Russia without a
US passport? RT's Meghan Lopez has more.

[Cidersomerset]

Thorny Route: Snowden weighs 3 S. American asylum offers, itinerary unclear

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Published on 9 Jul 2013


America's most-wanted man the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden
has found himself weighing not one, but potentially three asylum offers.
Venezuela, Nicaragua and Bolivia have all spoken favorably of granting him
safe haven despite threats from the United States. RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports.

[Cidersomerset]

The Guardian - Interview with Edward Snowden in Hong Kong Part 2

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Published on 8 Jul 2013


Edward Snowden: 'The US government will say I aided our enemies' -- video interview

[turiya]

Snowden strikes again: 'NSA in bed with Germany'


Not to forget to mention Israel...

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7 July 2013


Interviewer: What is the mission of America's National Security Agency (NSA) -- and how is the job it does compatible with the rule of law?

Snowden: They're tasked to know everything of importance that happens outside of the United States. That's a significant challenge. When it is made to appear as though not knowing everything about everyone is an existential crisis, then you feel that bending the rules is okay. Once people hate you for bending those rules, breaking them becomes a matter of survival.

Interviewer: Are German authorities or German politicians involved in the NSA surveillance system?

Snowden: Yes, of course. We're 1 in bed together with the Germans the same as with most other Western countries. For example, we 2 tip them off when someone we want is flying through their airports (that we for example, have learned from the cell phone of a suspected hacker's girlfriend in a totally unrelated third country -- and they hand them over to us. They 3 don't ask to justify how we know something, and vice versa, to insulate their political leaders from the backlash of knowing how grievously they're violating global privacy.

Interviewer: But if details about this system are now exposed, who will be charged?

Snowden: In front of US courts? I'm not sure if you're serious. An investigation found the specific people who authorized the warrantless wiretapping of millions and millions of communications, which per count would have resulted in the longest sentences in world history, and our highest official simply demanded the investigation be halted. Who "can" be brought up on charges is immaterial when the rule of law is not respected. Laws are meant for you, not for them.

Interviewer: Does the NSA partner with other nations, like Israel?

Snowden: Yes. All the time. The NSA has a massive body responsible for this: FAD, the Foreign Affairs Directorate.

Interviewer: Did the NSA help to create Stuxnet? (Stuxnet is the computer worm that was deployed against the Iranian nuclear program.)

Snowden: NSA and Israel co-wrote it.

SOURCE (http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-en.htm)
WEBSITE (http://cryptome.org/)
Article in German (http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707.pdf)

turiya :cool:

[Cidersomerset]

Litany of Lies: NSA leaks, Iran, Syria true facts shatter voters' faith in Obama

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Published on 9 Jul 2013


Edward Snowden's leaks appear to be eating into support for
Obama whose approval rating has plummeted almost 10
percentage points in recent weeks. Bad news for him but
worse for the government with a recent poll saying only one
in six Americans now trust Washington to do the right thing.
RT's Marina Portnaya reports.

[onawah]

Not sure what to think about this, but I do think Bradley Manning's case would be receiving more attention if Snowden's case wasn't so much in the news, though I don't think Snowden is culpable.
This is going around on Facebook now, not for the first time.
In any case, I'm saying a lot of prayers for both of them.



Pay Attention! Snowden was meant to Distract us from Manning

"WHAT IS THE LEFT HAND DOING"
I Believe the Snowden thing was originally planned as a distraction.
I think it back fired on them.
I Believe one of the things they were trying to distract us and the Media from noticing is the Bradley Manning case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aKRaMxHuTx0#at=47

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Onawah I don't think so. The mainstream were ignoring Bradley Manning
case before the Manning trial apart from RT and some others on the web. The
Mainstream should be ashamed for not supporting Bradley Manning.



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Published on 24 Jun 2013


Pay Attention! Snowden was meant to Distract us from Manning

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden Asylum: Ecuador FM slams Morales jet fiasco, urges more

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Published on 10 Jul 2013


Edward Snowden reportedly leans toward Venezuela for asylum,
while RT speaks to Ecuador's foreign minister on the reasons
behind Latin America's backing for whistleblowers on the run.
Three Latin American states have offered asylum but Edward
Snowden is has yet to pick which one he'll accept. Reports say
he's leaning towards Venezuela, whose offer came in early on a
wave of South American support. Speaking exclusively to RT,
Ecuador's foreign minister explained the continent-wide backing
for whistleblowers and why he believes it's necessary. RT's Marina
Portnaya reports.

[Cidersomerset]

US, Israel co-wrote Stuxnet against Iran: Snowden
Wednesday, 10 July 2013 07:16
Posted by David Icke

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'In an interview with the German weekly Der Spiegel published on Monday,
Snowden, who has been holed up in a Moscow airport since June, said the US
National Security Agency and Israel “co-wrote” the malware to infiltrate Iran’s
nuclear facility networks in 2009 and 2010.

The whistleblower said that the virus was used to change the speed of thousands of
gas-spinning centrifuges. Snowden said that the NSA has a “massive body” called
the Foreign Affairs Directorate, through which it cooperates with other entities like
Israel on security matters.'

Read more: US, Israel co-wrote Stuxnet against Iran: Snowden

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/10/313092/us-israel-cowrote-stuxnet-against-iran/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/86877-us-israel-co-wrote-stuxnet-against-iran-snowden

[Cidersomerset]

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Published on 11 Jul 2013


Reports that a Cuba-bound plane from Moscow has changed its
course, have stirred up speculation that the fugitive whistleblower
Edward Snowden could be on board. Aeroflot flight SU-150 is
reportedly avoiding US airspace. And Havana is believed to be
Snowden's most likely transit point, when and if he decides to
fly to Latin America - where three countries have offered him
political asylum

[Cidersomerset]

Cuba-bound jet detour sparks speculation Snowden on board

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Published on 11 Jul 2013


Reports that a Cuba-bound plane from Moscow has changed
its course, have stirred up speculation that the fugitive
whistleblower Edward Snowden could be on board. Aeroflot
flight SU-150 is reportedly avoiding US airspace. And Havana
is believed to be Snowden's most likely transit point, when and
if he decides to fly to Latin America - where three countries
have offered him political asylum.

[Cidersomerset]

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Edward Snowden re-emerges for Moscow airport meeting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23283684

[Cidersomerset]

Edward Snowden asking Russia for temporary asylum
until it is safe for him to travel to a permanent host country.

Snowden caught on camera: No state has basis to limit my asylum

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White House: Snowden must be returned to US & face charges

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Published on 12 Jul 2013


Whistleblowing website Wikileaks has released Edward Snowden's
statement to human rights groups in Moscow. In it the former NSA
contractor asks for assistance in getting asylum in Russia until he
can legally travel to Latin America. The White House said Friday
that Russia granting political asylum to Edward Snowden would
be on par with providing the National Security Agency leaker with
a "propaganda platform" to further harm the United States.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden to seek temporary refuge in Russia

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Published on 12 Jul 2013

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He's been trapped in a transit zone for more than
three weeks - now the former American intelligence
contractor Edward Snowden has asked for political
asylum in Russia.

[Cidersomerset]

American Hero Says NSA Whistleblower Has Done Nothing Wrong

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Published on 9 Jul 2013


"Many people compare Edward Snowden to me unfavorably
for leaving the country and seeking asylum, rather than facing
trial as I did. I don't agree. The country I stayed in was a
different America, a long time ago." Cenk Uygur
(http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) host of The Young Turks
discusses Ellsberg's support of Edward Snowden. Tell us what
you think of the NSA leaker Edward Snowden in the comment
section below.

[Cidersomerset]

NSA leaker Snowden requests political asylum in Russia

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Published on 12 Jul 2013


After speculation that NSA leaker Edward Snowden had
escaped Moscow's airport earlier this week, it turns out
that Snowden is still stuck there. On Friday, the
whistleblower met with human rights groups to say he
wants Russia to give him temporary asylum until he
figures out a way to reach Latin American where he has
already been granted asylum. So what's next for the American?
Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern joins us to discuss the
possible outcome.

[Cidersomerset]

'Snowden saga test of leadership for Putin & Obama'

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Published on 13 Jul 2013


NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden says he wants temporary political asylum in
Russia, and has promised to stop releasing leaks that harm Washington. The
White House said Friday that Russia granting political asylum to Edward Snowden
would be on par with providing the National Security Agency leaker with a
"propaganda platform" to further harm the United States. For more analysis
Stephen Cohen, Professor of Russian and Slavic studies at New York University
and a former advisor of President George Bush senior, joins RT.

[Cidersomerset]

US slams Russia for giving 'propaganda platform' to Snowden

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Published on 13 Jul 2013


The White House says that Russia granting political asylum
to Edward Snowden will be on par with providing the National
Security Agency leaker with a "propaganda platform" to further
harm the United States.

[onawah]

Snowden reveals HAARP’s Global Assassination Agenda
By Oliver Wilis, on July 10th, 2013
This looks credible to me, but I'm not familiar with this news source. Does anyone know what their reputation is?
http://www.chronicle.su/news/snowden-reveals-haarps-global-assassination-agenda/

MOSCOW, Russia – Edward Snowden, NSA whistleblower and fugitive, released documents Tuesday to Internet Chronicle reporters proving that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP, is definitively engaged in a program of assassination and mind control.

While the military prison industrial complex has routinely insisted that the Alaskan-based HAARP is only meant to study natural phenomena in earth’s ionosphere, Snowden has managed to blow open a brutally massive charade.

“The HAARP research station,” he said, “strategically based away from prying eyes near Gakona, Alaska, is actually used to terminate or manipulate would-be dissidents of global capitalism on the scale of millions of people.”

Added Snowden, using finger quotes, “With these terrestrial antennas, NATO [the North Atlantic Treaty Organization] is able to, on a global scale, remotely silence ‘perpetrators’ of ‘deviant or subversive’ strains of thought.”

Unbeknownst to victims or their loved ones, HAARP projects ultra-high-powered radio waves. Those waves operate at the same electronic frequency as the truncus encephali, or brain stem, selectively inducing deaths seemingly by natural causes – including by some appearing to coroners as innocuous as strokes or heart attacks.

“When and if the intelligence community doesn’t view outright assassination as an optimal effect,” said Snowden, “‘they’ can simply make a ‘target’ act in an insane fashion, in order to discredit them. When we were in transit between Hong Kong and Moscow, WikiLeaks staff and I had to fend off the constant threat of radio-generated homicidal delusions.”

Quickly ushering staff into his lavish room at Sheremetyevo Airport’s Hotel Novotel, the former NSA contractor began to explain himself. Due to confidentiality agreements with the 30-year-old, formerly of Booz Allen Hamilton, the Chronicle cannot elaborate beyond the point that he has outfitted his entire flat to be a thoroughly functioning Faraday cage.

Swowden’s haphazardly constructed Faraday cage, he claims, can block interference from external static and nonstatic electric fields.

“Without it,” he says, “I would have been dead the moment The Guardian‘s first story went to print.”

Snowden bolstered his testimony with HAARP documents gleaned from the private email accounts of officials as high-ranking as admirals and Air Force brigadier generals. Sources within the intelligence community have confirmed to The Internet Chronicle the authenticity of these documents, as well as their horrifying ramifications for human dignity.

Sources familiar with discussions between the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the University of Alaska, which helps run HAARP, suggested that cell towers, as well as TrapWire, are “in play here.”

Snowden’s testimony appears to be partially in line with that of a U.S. senator’s brother, in 2009. It was then that he, Nick Begich, told “Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura” that “just to affect the brain with emotional state changes is so easily accomplished” with HAARP.

Watch this excerpt from that program:
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[Cidersomerset]

Richard Stallman: Snowden & Assange besieged by empire but not defeated

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Published on 15 Jul 2013


Snowden and Assange besieged but not defeated, while privacy has a better chance
now than it had before. We talk to freedom activist and free software developer Richard
Stallman, who believes the fight against the total surveillance on the part of the
governments is far from over. The founder of GNU project and Free software foundation
speaks to Sophie Shevardnadze on SophieCo about the recent leaks of the NSA and
social media.

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'United Stasi of America': Anonymous illuminate US embassy in Berlin


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Andrew Marr Show, newspaper review (23Jun13)

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Published on 23 Jun 2013


The Sunday newspapers are reviewed with "comedian" Russell Brand and Labour peer Helena Kennedy.

Recorded from BBC 1 HD, Andrew Marr Show, 23 June 2013

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I hope Sophie (the girl interviewer in the first video) is playing Devil's Advocate and isn't that stupid and annoying as she sounded.

[Cidersomerset]

I hope Sophie (the girl interviewer in the first video) is playing Devil's Advocate and isn't that stupid and annoying as she sounded.

She was not on form in this interview, unlike some of the other more experienced RT anchors. The Russell Brand sunday paper review
from the other week is quite good especially the bit he comments on the then breaking Prism story.

[sdv]

Snowden reveals HAARP’s Global Assassination Agenda
By Oliver Wilis, on July 10th, 2013
This looks credible to me, but I'm not familiar with this news source. Does anyone know what their reputation is?
http://www.chronicle.su/news/snowden-reveals-haarps-global-assassination-agenda/

MOSCOW, Russia – Edward Snowden, NSA whistleblower and fugitive, released documents Tuesday to Internet Chronicle reporters proving that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP, is definitively engaged in a program of assassination and mind control.

While the military prison industrial complex has routinely insisted that the Alaskan-based HAARP is only meant to study natural phenomena in earth’s ionosphere, Snowden has managed to blow open a brutally massive charade.

“The HAARP research station,” he said, “strategically based away from prying eyes near Gakona, Alaska, is actually used to terminate or manipulate would-be dissidents of global capitalism on the scale of millions of people.”

Added Snowden, using finger quotes, “With these terrestrial antennas, NATO [the North Atlantic Treaty Organization] is able to, on a global scale, remotely silence ‘perpetrators’ of ‘deviant or subversive’ strains of thought.”

Unbeknownst to victims or their loved ones, HAARP projects ultra-high-powered radio waves. Those waves operate at the same electronic frequency as the truncus encephali, or brain stem, selectively inducing deaths seemingly by natural causes – including by some appearing to coroners as innocuous as strokes or heart attacks.

“When and if the intelligence community doesn’t view outright assassination as an optimal effect,” said Snowden, “‘they’ can simply make a ‘target’ act in an insane fashion, in order to discredit them. When we were in transit between Hong Kong and Moscow, WikiLeaks staff and I had to fend off the constant threat of radio-generated homicidal delusions.”

Quickly ushering staff into his lavish room at Sheremetyevo Airport’s Hotel Novotel, the former NSA contractor began to explain himself. Due to confidentiality agreements with the 30-year-old, formerly of Booz Allen Hamilton, the Chronicle cannot elaborate beyond the point that he has outfitted his entire flat to be a thoroughly functioning Faraday cage.

Swowden’s haphazardly constructed Faraday cage, he claims, can block interference from external static and nonstatic electric fields.

“Without it,” he says, “I would have been dead the moment The Guardian‘s first story went to print.”

Snowden bolstered his testimony with HAARP documents gleaned from the private email accounts of officials as high-ranking as admirals and Air Force brigadier generals. Sources within the intelligence community have confirmed to The Internet Chronicle the authenticity of these documents, as well as their horrifying ramifications for human dignity.

Sources familiar with discussions between the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the University of Alaska, which helps run HAARP, suggested that cell towers, as well as TrapWire, are “in play here.”

Snowden’s testimony appears to be partially in line with that of a U.S. senator’s brother, in 2009. It was then that he, Nick Begich, told “Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura” that “just to affect the brain with emotional state changes is so easily accomplished” with HAARP.

Watch this excerpt from that program:
73WHo3D7KIg

Nope, not a reliable source (i.e. this report is 'made up'). Snowden has agreements with The Guardian, the Washington Post and Wikileaks. Why would he reveal new information to another source, and not give a reason why he has bypassed the sources with which he has an agreement? Do some research on the reporter and I bet that he/she was never even in Russia.

But with a bit of investigation ... Have a look at this page: http://www.chronicle.su/staff/ and look at the box titled HOURLY BREAKING NEWS UPDATES on the right-hand side of the page.

Poorly executed attempt at comedy?

[Carmody]

From what i see here on the forum, this story has to be fabricate. Not because it is not real but that even if it was true, there is nothing to indicate that Snowden would ever state such crazy sounding stories as this point in time. He does not appear to be that stupid.

It would totally ruin what he is trying to bring forth at this time. It would destroy his credibility in the most critical areas of the public, regarding penetration of his story and data.

Watch for the number of places, and the specific names of internet places that link this 'most recent Snowden revelation', this will be part of the process of telling you who is working for who.

[Cidersomerset]

Putin: Snowden will leave Russia as soon as he gets opportunity


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Published on 15 Jul 2013


NSA-leaker Edward Snowden will leave Russia as soon
as he gets such opportunity, but for now the situation
is unclear, says Russian President Vladimir Putin

[Cidersomerset]

Legal Limbo: Snowden applies for temporary asylum in Russia

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Published on 16 Jul 2013


NSA leaker Edward Snowden has officially requested temporary asylum in
Russia, according to a lawyer who's been working with him. The
whistleblower's been stranded in a Moscow airport for over three weeks
now. John Laughland, Director of Studies at the Institute of Democracy
and Cooperation, joins RT's studio to discuss the matter.

[Cidersomerset]

US citizen has no right to free speech?' State Dept spokesperson grilled over Snowden

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Published on 16 Jul 2013


Tensions are high as NSA leaker Edward Snowden officially submitted application for
temporary asylum in Russia on Tuesday. After Russian and international human rights
advocates and lawyers met with Snowden at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport on Friday,
the US said it is disappointed in Russia for considering the whistleblowers asylum.
During a daily press briefing State Department spokeswoman, Jen Psaki was given a
thorough grilling on the Snowden affair by journalists, including AP's Matthew Lee and
CNN's Elise Labott and was left lost for words at almost every turn.





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Lawyer: Snowden has no plans to leave Russia, might seek citizenship

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Published on 17 Jul 2013


The man who exposed America's global surveillance network,
Edward Snowden may be looking to settle in Russia - at least
for the mid-term. The whistle blower has been stuck at a
Moscow airport for three weeks now - because he lacks the
papers to leave. Live to RT's Andrew Farmer and we are
joined by RT contributor Afshin Rattansi.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden saga: to stay or not to stay in Russia?

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Published on 17 Jul 2013


NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden's stay in a Moscow airport may soon be
ending. He could be leaving the airport transit zone in the next few days - if he
receives the necessary paperwork from the Russian government while his asylum
request is being processed. However, according to his attorney, Snowden still
doesn't think it's safe to leave Russia and travel to South and Central America,
where nations have offered him political asylum. Snowden has shown an interest in
staying in Russia, applying for citizenship. But Russian President Vladimir Putin has
put conditions on Snowden's refuge: new leaks that harm the United Sates won't
be tolerated. So where do things go from here? RT'S Madina Kochenova joins us
from Moscow.

[fifi]

A fun one to read...
http://www.happyplace.com/24470/a-love-letter-to-the-nsa-agent-who-is-monitoring-my-online-activity

"A love letter to the NSA agent who is monitoring my online activity.
posted 06/13/2013
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[Lucc30]

A fun one to read...
http://www.happyplace.com/24470/a-love-letter-to-the-nsa-agent-who-is-monitoring-my-online-activity
........


Priceless!

[Cidersomerset]

Terrorist-friendly? US denies Russian requests to extradite criminals


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Published on 22 Jul 2013


The US has expressed its concern over the fugitive whistleblower
Edward Snowden's bid for temporary asylum in Russia. Moscow's
expected to grant that request - and says the lack of an extradition
treaty with Washington makes handing him over impossible.
However, US routinely denies Russian requests to hand over
suspected criminals living in America.

[Cidersomerset]

US Extradition Hypocrisy

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Published on 22 Jul 2013


US lawmakers continue to pressure Russia and other nations to comply
with extradition requests for Edward Snowden. But a recent extradition
case with an accused Chechen terrorist shows that that United States
has routinely declined to comply with other nations' extradition requests.
Can our lawmakers really expect allies to give a favor that the United States
is unwilling to give to them? RT Political Commentator Sam Sacks reports.

[Cidersomerset]

Media frenzy at Moscow airport on Snowden exit reports

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Published on 24 Jul 2013


Russia's Immigration Service has reportedly granted entry permission to NSA
whistleblower Edward Snowden, who has been stranded at a Moscow airport since
last month.



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Snowden wants to stay in Russia indefinitely - Lawyer to RT

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Published on 24 Jul 2013


Lawyer Anatoly Kucherena says Snowden's asylum bid is still being
reviewed by immigration authorities and that the whistleblower will
have to stay at Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport, but confirmed that
the NSA-leaker will live in Russia. He assured that Snowden is
staying in good conditions.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden allowed into Russia


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Published on 24 Jul 2013


Edward Snowden, who is wanted in the States after leaking information about the
work of the US security agencies, was issued documents allowing him to leave the
transit lounge of a Moscow airport.

[Sir Eltor]

Hey Cidersomerset , just wanted to give you a big thanks for the threads entirety

[Cidersomerset]

US threatens nations aiding Snowden, Latin America welcomes whistleblower

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Published on 26 Jul 2013


The man who exposed the scope of the NSA's surveillance to the
world is still waiting for the paperwork to allow him to leave a
Moscow airport transit zone. That as U.S. lawmakers voted to
introduce trade or other sanctions against any country offering
asylum to Edward Snowden. Nicaragua's President Daniel Ortega
exclusively talks to RT and tell why Snowden is welcome there.

[Cidersomerset]

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26 July 2013 Last updated at 16:31

Russia and US security services 'in talks' over Snowden

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Edward Snowden Mr Snowden has said his preferred destination would be
somewhere in Latin America Continue reading the main story.The American FBI and
Russian FSB security services are "in talks" over US fugitive Edward Snowden,
according to the Russian president's spokesman. However, Dmitry Peskov repeated
Russia's position that it would "not hand anyone over".Mr Snowden has been stuck
in transit at a Moscow airport for the past month as he has no valid travel
documents.

The US Attorney General, Eric Holder, has sought to assure Moscow he would not
face the death penalty in America. Washington wants him extradited for leaking
details of surveillance programmes.

Diplomatic ructions

Mr Peskov did not specify what the nature of the talks between the agencies was.
He did, however, remind reporters that President Vladimir Putin had expressed a
strong determination not to allow the case to interfere with US-Russian relations.
Mr Putin had not taken part in any discussions with the American authorities over
Mr Snowden case, Mr Peskov said.Mr Snowden "has not made any request that
would require examination by the head of state", Mr Peskov added.

The Russian president has refused to hand him to the American authorities, but
said he could stay in Russia only if he stopped leaking US secrets.Mr Snowden,
whose passport has been cancelled by the US, has been in the transit area of
Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport since arriving from Hong Kong on 23 June On
Thursday Mr Snowden's lawyer Anatoly Kucherena denied earlier reports that Mr
Snowden had been given Russian travel documents.

Mr Snowden has requested temporary asylum in Russia, and said recently his
favoured final destination was Latin America.In a letter to Russian Justice Minister
Alexander Konovalov, Mr Holder said that the charges against Mr Snowden were
not punishable by death.If additional charges were brought which could incur
capital punishment, the US would not seek to impose such a penalty, he added.

The Snowden affair has caused diplomatic ructions around the world, upsetting
America's close allies and traditional enemies.Leaks by the former CIA worker have
led to revelations that the US National Security Agency (NSA) is collecting
Americans' phone records.On Wednesday evening, an attempt to block funding for
the programme narrowly failed in a 205-217 vote in the US House of
Representatives.

The White House had lobbied Congress to support the surveillance.

Opponents of the US, including Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua, have all

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23468459

[Cidersomerset]

US threatens sanctions on countries who aid Snowden

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Published on 26 Jul 2013


On Thursday evening, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) spearheaded
legislation that would implement sanctions against any country that
would assist NSA leaker Edward Snowden. The proposition quickly
passed the Senate Committee unanimously and will head for a vote
to the Senate floor. RT's Erin Ade discusses the situation with
Doctor Christian Humborg with Transparency International.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden Ping Pong: Edward still in transit limbo, as US spouts new

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Published on 28 Jul 2013


There's been a fresh round of diplomatic wrangling over Edward Snowden between
Russia and the US - as the world expected the fugitive whistleblower to leave a
Moscow airport this week. The Former NSA contractor has been stranded in the
transit zone there for a month now - currently waiting for Moscow's decision on
his temporary asylum request. RT's Lindsay France recaps all the twists and
turns in the Snowden Saga.

[Openmindedskeptic]

“Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is
it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a
time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor
popular but because conscience tells one it is right.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

Every day that goes by we as US citizens learn more details which unequivocally confirm that Edward Snowden is a patriotic hero. Thank you Mr. Snowden for having the conscience to ask if what you were doing at the NSA was right.

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[Cidersomerset]

Snowden granted 1 yr asylum in Russia, leaves airport to undisclosed location


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Published on 1 Aug 2013


NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has been granted temporary asylum in Russia
and is allowed to enter the country's territory. The whistleblower has been granted
temporary political asylum in Russia, Snowden's legal representative Anatoly
Kucherena said.



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Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport (PHOTOS) Published
time: August 01, 2013 11:45

Edited time: August 01, 2013 14:08


Photos on link...
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Russia, Snowden, USA

NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has been granted temporary asylum in Russia
and is allowed to enter the country’s territory.The whistleblower has been granted
temporary political asylum in Russia, Snowden's legal representative Anatoly
Kucherena said, with his words later confirmed by Russia’s Federal Migration
service.

“I have just handed over to him papers from the Russian Immigration Service.
They are what he needs to leave the transit zone,” he added.

Kucherena showed a photocopy of the document to the press. According to it,
Snowden is free to stay in Russia until at least July 31, 2014. His asylum status
may be extended annually upon request. With his newly-awarded legal status in
Russia, Snowden cannot be handed over to the US authorities, even if Washington
files an official request. He can now be transported to the United States only if he
agrees to go voluntarily. Snowden departed at around 15.30 Moscow time (11.30
GMT), airport sources said. His departure came some 30 minutes before his new
refugee status was officially announced. His present location has not been made
public nor will it be disclosed, Kucherena said.

“He is the most wanted person on earth and his security will be a priority,” the
attorney explained. “He will deal with personal security issues and lodging himself.
I will just consult him as his lawyer.”

Snowden eventually intends to talk to the press in Russia, but needs at least one
day of privacy, Kucherena said.


The whistleblower was unaccompanied when he left the airport in a regular taxi,
Kucherena added. However, WikiLeaks contradicted the lawyer, saying the
organization’s activist Sarah Harrison accompanied Snowden. Russia is confident
that the latest development in the Snowden case will not affect US President Barack
Obama’s upcoming visit to Moscow, presidential aide Yuri Ushakov said.

“We are aware of the atmosphere being created in the US over Snowden, but we
didn’t get any signals [indicating a possible cancellation of the visit] from American
authorities,” he told RIA Novosti.

Snowden, a former CIA employee and NSA contractor, came to international
prominence after leaking several classified documents detailing massive electronic
surveillance by the US government and foreign allies who collaborated with them.



Photo of Edward Snowden leaving Sheremetyevo Airport (Video still from http://www.vesti.ru)

Snowden was hiding out in a Hong Kong hotel when he first went public in May.
Amidst mounting US pressure on both Beijing and local authorities in the former-
British colony to hand the whistleblower over for prosecution, Snowden flew to
Moscow on June 23.

Moscow was initially intended as a temporary stopover on his journey, as Snowden
was believed to be headed to Ecuador via Cuba. However, he ended up getting
stranded at Sheremetyevo Airport after the US government revoked his passport.
Snowden could neither leave Russia nor enter it, forcing him to remain in the
airport’s transit zone. In July, Snowden applied for temporary asylum in Russia, a
status that would allow him to live and work in the country for one year. Kucherena
earlier said the fugitive whistleblower is considering securing permanent residency
in Russia, where he will attempt to build a life.


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Snowden leaves airport after getting asylum in RussiaA photocopy of the document
given to Edward Snowden, shown by lawyer Anatoly Kucherena, 1 August Lawyer
Anatoly Kucherena showed a photocopy of the document given to Mr Snowden

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US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden has left the Moscow airport where he has
been staying since June after being granted temporary asylum.He left unobserved
after receiving, his lawyer said, the necessary papers to enter Russian territory
from Sheremetyevo Airport's transit zone.The US has charged Mr Snowden with
leaking details of its electronic surveillance programmes.Russia's decision is likely
to further strain its ties with the US.

A strongly worded US reaction can be expected shortly, as the news sinks in in the
US, the BBC's Daniel Sandford reports from Moscow. Mr Snowden arrived in
Moscow on 23 June from Hong Kong, after making his revelations.The Snowden
affair has caused diplomatic ructions around the world, upsetting the United States'
close allies and traditional enemies.

'Most pursued man'


Mr Snowden left the airport around 14:00 local time (10:00 GMT), the airport press
office told the BBC.Despite the heavy presence of news organisations at the airport,
his departure was apparently not spotted by media. The lawyer, Anatoly
Kucherena, said: "His location is not being made public for security reasons since
he is the most pursued man on the planet. He himself will decide where he will go."

The whistleblowing organisation Wikileaks, which has been helping him since he
made his revelations, said in a tweet that he had been given asylum.

"Edward Snowden was granted temporary asylum in Russia for a year and has now
left Moscow airport under the care of Wikileaks' Sarah Harrison," it said.

Ms Harrison is a member of the Wikileaks legal team and has been helping Mr
Snowden.

Mr Kucherena also said he had been awarded temporary asylum.

US Attorney General Eric Holder has given Moscow an assurance that Mr Snowden
will not face the death penalty

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Snowden finally leaves Moscow airport after Russia grants him asylum in the
country for one year

The U.S. whistleblower had lacked necessary document he needed to cross into
Russia He had been kept in designated security areas in Moscow AirportTaken to
secure location after he is given a year of asylum in RussiaOfficials insist saga will
not damage country's ties with the U.S.


By Hugo Gye and Will Stewart In Moscow

PUBLISHED: 13:11, 1 August 2013 | UPDATED: 13:55, 1 August 2013



Out: Edward Snowden has left the Moscow airport where he had been living for the past month

Edward Snowden has finally been allowed to leave the airport in Moscow where he
has been living for over a month after he received a document granting him asylum
in Russia for one year.The American fugitive wanted for leaking classified
intelligence documents stepped out of Sheremetyevo airport this afternoon after
weeks spent in legal limbo.His Russian lawyer Anatoly Kucherena said: 'I have just
handed him the documents from the Russian Federal Migration Service. They allow
him to leave the airport.'He added: 'I have just seen him off. He has left for a
secure location. Security is a very serious matter for him.'

Snowden slipped out of the airport in a taxi without being spotted by the dozens of
reporters and photographers who have camped out in the airport for weeks.
'He is the most wanted man on planet Earth,' his lawyer said. 'What do you think
he is going to do? He has to think about his personal security. I cannot tell you
where he is going.


'I put him in a taxi 15 to 20 minutes ago and gave him his certificate on getting
refugee status in the Russian Federation. He can live wherever he wants in Russia.
It's his personal choice.'The refugee was accompanied by Sarah Harrison, a British
representative of WikiLeaks who has been staying with Snowden in the airport.
The group tweeted: 'Edward Snowden has successfully acquired refugee status in
Russia and will shortly leave the airport.'

It added: 'We would like to thank the Russian people and all those others who have
helped to protect Mr Snowden. We have won the battle - now the war.'


Gone: Snowden's lawyer Anatoly Kucherena announced that his client had been granted asylum today

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Long stay: Snowden has been in legal limbo in the airport for more than a month since arriving in Hong Kong

The 30-year-old has apparently agreed not to disclose any more classified
information as a condition of his remaining in Russia.Snowden faces living under
strict curbs imposed by the Russian security agencies even though he has been
allowed to move from his hideaway in an airport transit zone.


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inmate' - but he will be behind bars for at least four more yearsHe arrived at
Sheremetyevo from Hong Kong on June 23 but was unable to leave because the
U.S. had revoked his passport.The runaway's movements will initially be strictly
curtailed, but President Vladimir Putin has denied his intelligence services are
seeking secrets known to the former contractor for the National Security Agency.

The revelation will fuel U.S. concerns that further sensitive data is in jeopardy and
could fall into the hands of the Russian government. The White House has
been ‘seeking clarity’ about Snowden's status.


Paperwork: Kucherena announced today that the relevant documents had been
given to SnowdenExit: Airport security staff secured an area yesterday in
preparation for Snowden to leave the airport at last

Vladimir Volokh, the head of the public council of the Russian Federal Migration
Service, insisted: ‘He will only be allowed to stay in places designated by Russian
law enforcement agencies.’

Kremlin official Yuri Ushakov insisted today that the long-running saga would not
affect ties between the U.S. and Russia, saying Snowden's case was 'relatively
insignificant'.


He added: 'Our president has expressed hope many times that this will not affect
the character of our relations.'

Snowden has indicated he later hopes to secure exile in South America with offers
from Venezuela, Bolivia and Nicaragua, but this week his lawyer said he might
apply for Russian citizenship.

‘Edward also asked me to thank all the women in Russia for offering him to marry
them,’ added the lawyer. ‘He was in stitches of laughter when he heard that there
were a lot of such proposals.

‘I passed him some clothes. I noticed that each time we meet he wears one and the
same shirt.

‘So I went out and bought him some shirts and trousers so that he at least could
have a chance to change. There is no laundry or ironing service in the conditions
where he lives right now.’

Home: Snowden has been in Sheremetyevo Airport (pictured) since arriving from
Hong Kong on June 23

Dragging on: View of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, which Snowden has called
home for a month now. He nearly got out Tuesday night but his hopes were dashed
as a bureaucratic snag halted his plans
Dragging on: View of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, which Snowden called home
for a month He brought the fugitive classic Russian books by Anton Chekhov, and
Fyodor Dostoyevsky's novel Crime and Punishment.The novel is about the mental
anguish and moral dilemmas of a poor ex-student who kills a pawnbroker for her
cash, but Kucherena said: ‘I'm not implying he's going through a similar mental
anguish.’Russia has rejected White House calls for Snowden to be deported to the
US to face espionage charges for leaking details of the NSA's wide-ranging spying
activities targeting data and phone communication. Volokh confirmed Snowden
would ‘not be extradited to any country where his life might be in danger, because
he has applied for asylum here.’ Putin demanded that Snowden stops leaking
secrets damaging to the U.S. while he is in Russia.


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Snowden Sidestep: Latest NSA leaks fall on deaf ears in Washington


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Published on 3 Aug 2013


Backlash from Snowden's latest leaks as expected the UK
and the US government are diverting public attention from
the much-criticized practices. People's discontent is simply
being ignored. RT's Gayane Chichyakyan takes a closer look.

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Leaker's Labour's Won: Snowden's 5 week airport limbo as it was

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Published on 4 Aug 2013


One chapter in Edward Snowden's saga was closed this week.
The US whistleblower on-the-run has finally left the transit limbo
of a Moscow airport, where he's been stuck for more than a month.
Snowden's been granted temporary asylum in Russia - and has
already received some job offers, including one from Russia's
biggest social network. While his whereabouts at the moment
remain unknown, RT's Lindsay France recaps the media's chase
for the former NSA contractor.


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No Credit For Snowden in Congress

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Published on 5 Aug 2013


Over the weekend, Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) called Edward Snowden a "whistleblower."
But he's one of the only Members of Congress willing to give any praise to Snowden at all.
Even lawmakers who've taken the most advantage of the NSA leaks to write new legislation
aren't willing to give any credit to Snowden. RT's Political Commentator Sam Sacks takes
a closer look

[Openmindedskeptic]

US should leave Edward Snowden alone

More than 150 civil society organizations from around the globe are asking President Barack Obama to end the prosecution of Edward Snowden.

Human rights, digital rights and media freedom campaigners from the UK to Uruguay and from the US to Uganda have joined together to call on the US administration to acknowledge Snowden as a whistleblower. All of us ask that he is protected and not persecuted.

Link to article. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/06/united-states-leave-edward-snowden-alone)

Meanwhile...

Obama cancels upcoming meeting with Putin (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-cancels-upcoming-meeting-with-putin/2013/08/07/0e04f686-ff64-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html)


President Obama will cancel a planned meeting in Moscow with Russian President Vladimir Putin amid mounting anger over Russia’s decision to allow National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden into the country, the White House said Wednesday.

[Cidersomerset]

Quote More than 150 civil society organizations from around the globe are asking President Barack Obama to end the prosecution of Edward Snowden.

Human rights, digital rights and media freedom campaigners from the UK to
Uruguay and from the US to Uganda have joined together to call on the US
administration to acknowledge Snowden as a whistleblower. All of us ask that he is
protected and not persecuted.
Link to article.




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US should leave Edward Snowden alone


The Guardian, Tuesday 6 August 2013 21.01 BST


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NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. Photograph: Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras/AP


More than 150 civil society organisations from around the globe are asking
President Barack Obama to end the prosecution of Edward Snowden (Activists stage
second national day of protest against NSA's domestic spying, 4 August).

Human rights, digital rights and media freedom campaigners from the UK to
Uruguay and from the US to Uganda have joined together to call on the US
administration to acknowledge Snowden as a whistleblower. All of us ask that he is
protected and not persecuted.

Snowden's disclosures have triggered a much-needed public debate about mass
surveillance online everywhere. Thanks to him, we have learned the extent to
which our online lives are systematically monitored by governments, without
transparency, accountability or safeguards from abuse.

Rather than address this gross abuse, the US government has chosen to shoot the
messenger. It has revoked his passport and obstructed his search for asylum.
European governments have been quick to help.

The knock-on effect will be to encourage others to follow by example. States that
have even less regard for their citizens will justify attacks on those who put
themselves at significant risk to expose wrongdoing and corruption or raise matters
of serious public concern.

We urge President Obama to protect Snowden and other whistleblowers like him.
We ask that the president initiate a full, public investigation into the legality of the
National Security Agency's actions. Perhaps, then, David Cameron might consider
doing the same over allegations concerning GCHQ.

Dr Agnes Callamard

Executive director, Article 19, on behalf of more than 150 global organisations

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Obama cancels upcoming meeting with Putin


Quote President Obama will cancel a planned meeting in Moscow with Russian President Vladimir Putin amid mounting anger over Russia’s decision to allow National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden into the country, the White House said Wednesday.

Obama accused Putin of Cold war mentality in above vid, I think
its the other way round....

Obama cancels Moscow meeting with Putin over Snowden

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Published on 7 Aug 2013


US President Barack Obama has canceled a meeting with President Vladimir Putin
in Moscow which was scheduled for September, AP reports. The move comes after
Russia's recent decision to grant temporary asylum to NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

[Agape]

The PTB are so irrationally afraid to challenge the paradigm, to change the paradigm, they;re being aware of it ,
all their wars, their disability to find common solution , their games, their spies,
their offices out of control, attempting to control people ,
their generals, their starving masses,
their responsibility, their money .. how ephemeral is the illusion to blind their eyes ,

what is more important to Mr Snowden , Mr Obama or Mr Putin,

bunch of papers or human lives , your endless enemies, your brainwashed convictions, your double faced behavior , your endless lies .


Sorry . That irrational fear to confront and challenge the bigger paradigm ..

is useless . Anyway..




:alien: :grouphug:

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Cold War Thinking? 'Obama's reaction on Snowden asylum infantile'

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Published on 7 Aug 2013


US President Barack Obama has cancelled a one-to-one with his Russian
counterpart Vladimir Putin that was scheduled for next month. The decision,
prompted by Moscow giving temporary refuge to the fugitive whistleblower
Edward Snowden, was met with disappointment in the Kremlin. John Laughl
and, a director of studies at the Institute of democracy and cooperation in Paris,
joins RT to discuss this.

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden Snub: Russia 'disappointed' with Obama's reaction to asylum

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Published on 8 Aug 2013


America is unprepared to build relations with Russia on an equal footing - that's
how the Kremlin reacted to Washington's decision to call off Barack Obama's
one-to-one talks with President Vladimir Putin. The US says it has little to discuss
with Russia on such a high level after citing Moscow's granting asylum to NSA
whistleblower Edward Snowden as one of the main reasons for abandoning the talks.
For more on this let's talk live to our correspondent Lindsay France.

[Cidersomerset]

Frosty Stalemate: US, Russia look for common ground over Syria & Snowden

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Published on 8 Aug 2013


Finding a solution to Syria will take center stage - when Russia's
Foreign and Defense Ministers meet their US counterparts. Relations
between the two countries took a big hit after Barack Obama
cancelled his one-on-one with President Putin - largely because
Russia granted asylum to NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.
RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports - both sides are trying to stand
on rapidly-shrinking common ground on key issues.

[Cidersomerset]

Can Snowden's NSA leaks cause real reform?

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Published on 8 Aug 2013


The massive surveillance by the NSA continues, but now intelligence
officials have come forward to add more detailed information on how
exactly the agency sifts through communications. Since Edward Snowden
leaked information on the NSA, surveillance has gathered much needed
attention and has lawmakers debating the issue. Heidi Boghosian,
executive director for the National Lawyers Guild, and Brian Duggan,
technologist for Open Technology Institute, join us to discuss how
Edward Snowden changed the scene.

[Agape]

I still think they should sit at One Table, Mr Obama, Mr Putin and Mr Snowden . Why not, they are all 'great impartisans' and 'democrats' so why would they not be also , human beings .
Why not sit at one table and ask each other the questions you always wanted to ask . With honesty and transparency,
you have given your nations some promises about it , you promised to protect peace of this world .
This world is not your property, the world is not your nations , it is but One . And the world is watching .

So why not invite Mr Snowden n Mr Putin to one table .. provided they agree to come disarmed .. and ask everyone the same questions and how far you really want to go in this game on wars and spies and enemies ,

like little boys who forgot their minds with little soldiers at battlefields
but now you're risking human lives .


Why do you think you are big, your countries are big but you are afraid to think still bigger to reach the status of Human Being ,

rather than Slave of Past Gods ..


Why any of these people are going to prove their greatness




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Obama announces reforms to NSA surveillance programs



Published on 9 Aug 2013


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President Barack Obama held a press conference at the White House Friday
afternoon where he discussed everything from the Federal Reserve to his hallmark
health care plan. The National Security Agency's surveillance programs took center
stage, however, as Pres. Obama announced plans to reform the government's spy
policies in the wake of disclosures made by NSA leaker Edward Snowden. RT's Sam
Sacks was at the White House for the Friday afternoon presser, and shares with
Erin Ade the big take aways from the president's presentation

[Cidersomerset]

Barack Obama: We are 'reassessing' Russia relationship

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Published on 10 Aug 2013


US President Barack Obama describes how the US is reassessing
its relationship with Russia, as tensions spiral, partly due to
Edward Snowden's temporary asylum in the country.

[ThePythonicCow]

Can Snowden's NSA leaks cause real reform?
Yes - they can - but "reform" is not a short term deal. It's the decline and fall of the American empire, and may take a half century to play out :). By the US elections of 2016, I expect our tyrannical intelligence agencies overreach to become an important issue.