Edward Snowden: his future

[bogeyman]

I have been reading and monitoring the developing situation concerning Mr Snowdon.

I wonder why he decided to expose him self in this way in order to expose a monitoring program of the NSA

The are many other ways of exposing this program via a member of the senate, and provide the documents anonymously, and leak them to the media in the same way, maybe with a sort explanation attached.

Mr Snowdons future has been placed in jeopardy by the method of release of these Prism documents he decided to use. So what of his future....bleak I believe, unless of course he has cash stored away and a alternative passport in another name, credit cards, debt cards are easy to trace.

This leak and the reasons behind it have been stewing on Mr Snowdon's mind for some time, and it seems he wasn't getting answers while he was working as a contractor, I'm surprised there wasn't suspicion by his former employers regarding his questions etc.

I don't think there are too many options for him now, if he's caught he has had it, but maybe as with the whistle blower who leaked the Pentagon Papers, they may throw it out of court, but it is a very different time, and I cannot see this occurring.

[Fred Steeves]

I would go public too, with bells a ringin, just for safety reasons alone. You can't hide from these people, but you CAN make their "job" more difficult. It would look awfully suspicious at this point (even to the average person), were he to be found to have "hung himself" like the D.C. Madame.

[Kryztian]

I think going to Hong Kong was a bad choice. He said he wants to go to Iceland, which I am not sure why he didn't go there initially. Frankly, I would have gone to Ecuador, which is holding up Julian Assange at their embassy in London, and which has much better weather (more like Hawaii where he was before) and where Bill Ryan could interview him.

[bogeyman]

It seems the Q Group, NSA internal police force has been looking for Mr Snowdon since May.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/10/inside-the-q-group-the-directorate-hunting-down-andrew-snowden.html

[Lifebringer]

Simple case of patriotism, because: "he broke confidence of secrecy, BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE LAW, AND HE AS A CITIZEN FOUND OUT AND WANTED IT STOPPED.

Yes, I think that because of this he would have the case thrown out, but that was before the corrupt prison judges of the private prison complex and Citizen's United.
When the corporations want that information, they will do, recruit anyone to obtain it for the profits and snoopware, was outlawed, until big servers like Yahoo, and others were infiltrated/$$$? by govNSA.

So now I don't even check my e-mail because unless I'm waiting on a confirmation, I just call. It keeps getting larger and larger and I won't even delete the crap the corp is shoveling at me.
Let em go through all that.
He is a Patriotic Whistleblower of a private Corp, that was sub-contracted to snoop our mails. All these private Post Offices are concerning me now. They didn't name them for nothing, the powers that were, never do.
That is why the lists, and lists of info must be purged from the system. With the gathering of dna for a traffic stop, they can set everyone up, they think are not conforming to their CORPORATE view?

See what I mean, and don't think they won't, they like the free labor in prison, competing with workers around the world. They feed the prisoners GMO's because they have no rights. The meager, if any money they make, goes for paying for their stay, and their children without support/child support amt just keeps them buried in more debt with no option for a job if they get out.

So it's off to "maybe I can get away with it land" with every camera pointed at you watching everything you do.
"I always feel like somebody's watching me." 10.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYUSSZY

[bogeyman]

Food for thought:

http://mdatoz.com/uncivil/


Peters characterized the NSA as being between a rock and a hard place. He said, “If the intel community backs off and doesn’t do this stuff and there’s a terrorist attack, then it’s intelligence failure. If they do this stuff, well, it’s Big Brother snooping.”

[crosby]

i have just seen this headline on google news and i thought it appropriate for this thread. i fear for this man's safety.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57588886/ron-paul-fears-nsa-leaker-assassination/

"As the hunt continues for Edward Snowden, the former CIA employee who outed himself last weekend as the source of top-secret leaks about U.S. surveillance program, some people have concerns about his fate.

"I'm worried about, somebody in our government might kill him with a cruise missile or a drone missile," said Ron Paul a former Texas congressman who twice ran for the Republican presidential nomination, in an interview Tuesday with Fox News. "I mean, we live in a bad time where American citizens don't even have rights and that they can be killed, but the gentlemen is trying to tell the truth about what's going on."

it occurs to me that there may be a possibility that he has never been located in Hong Kong. it also occurs to me that he is being played in a huge deadly game of one three letter agency and another. i hope there are some white hats that will help him.
warmest regards, corson

[cosmickitten]

Yes Fred, absolutely, I believe members of congress have some sort of responsibility to "Their own Government" to report it back to the NSA and it wouldn't have gone anywhere other than Mr. Snowdon being whisked off to Guantanamo Bay in three seconds and of course taken his own life, naturally.

[Sunny-side-up]

By saying this:
'Their get you in time'
Edward Snowden is saying more than he leaked, he is also saying the NSA are 'vindictive killers' who will get you 'some way, some where, some time'.
He is helping to show how far their power and corruption will go!

Edward Snowden is a very cleaver and technically capable young man and his first move to Hong-kong was a planed step i'm sure,
well I hope.so!
If not he will become a marter.


it occurs to me that there may be a possibility that he has never been located in Hong Kong. it also occurs to me that he is being played in a huge deadly game of one three letter agency and another. i hope there are some white hats that will help him.
warmest regards, corson
Yes corson I agree

[Snookie]

I would go public too, with bells a ringin, just for safety reasons alone. You can't hide from these people, but you CAN make their "job" more difficult. It would look awfully suspicious at this point (even to the average person), were he to be found to have "hung himself" like the D.C. Madame.

Or like Aaron. Schwartz!

[bogeyman]

He has recently talked to the South China Morning Post, stating there are more disclosures to come. I cannot access the specific article, for whatever reason.

[Prodigal Son]

I think going to Hong Kong was a bad choice. He said he wants to go to Iceland, which I am not sure why he didn't go there initially. Frankly, I would have gone to Ecuador, which is holding up Julian Assange at their embassy in London, and which has much better weather (more like Hawaii where he was before) and where Bill Ryan could interview him.
If I was him, I wouldn't bat an eye about taking Putin's alleged offer of asylum in Russia. It is a fantastic country, I spent two weeks there 2 summers ago. The food is pretty terrible, but they have McDonald's, the most popular restaurant by far in Moscow. Interesting how none of them are fat. The culture is extremely interesting, and yes it is cold, but for 8 months out of the year so is New York. And you can't beat the summer there. It stays light until 11pm, it is teeming with tourists, its usually over 90 degrees for the entire months of July and August, and there is lots to see and do.

As a side benny, you can't walk more than a block in either Moscow or St. Petersburg without encountering a scantily clad supermodel or two... and the women outnumber the men 4 to 1. There are much worse places Snowden could end up in.

As far as why he chose to go public, I agree with Fred. They probably would have traced the leaks to him anyway, and he is a lot safer from being suicided with all this exposure.

[ulli]

I think going to Hong Kong was a bad choice. He said he wants to go to Iceland, which I am not sure why he didn't go there initially. Frankly, I would have gone to Ecuador, which is holding up Julian Assange at their embassy in London, and which has much better weather (more like Hawaii where he was before) and where Bill Ryan could interview him.
If I was him, I wouldn't bat an eye about taking Putin's alleged offer of asylum in Russia. It is a fantastic country, I spent two weeks there 2 summers ago. The food is pretty terrible, but they have McDonald's, the most popular restaurant by far in Moscow. Interesting how none of them are fat. The culture is extremely interesting, and yes it is cold, but for 8 months out of the year so is New York. And you can't beat the summer there. It stays light until 11pm, it is teeming with tourists, its usually over 90 degrees for the entire months of July and August, and there is lots to see and do.

As a side benny, you can't walk more than a block in either Moscow or St. Petersburg without encountering a scantily clad supermodel or two... and the women outnumber the men 4 to 1. There are much worse places Snowden could end up in.

As far as why he chose to go public, I agree with Fred. They probably would have traced the leaks to him anyway, and he is a lot safer from being suicided with all this exposure.

Plus, he'll get a car with a camera on the dashboard.

[Wind]

You can support Edward via this petition. I signed it!
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_prism_global/?alSEBeb