HUGE Harp RING over Canada near Detroit

[aviators]

Hope this is not a real threat. Found this on Dutch's site. Looks huge!

Skip to the 920 min mark to view the Ring faster.

Be Safe....... Ps I moved this to climate updates



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[aviators]

Hope this is not a real threat. Found this on Dutch's site. Looks huge!

Skip to the 920 min mark to view the Ring faster.

Be Safe.......



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[Sidney]

That Haarp ring, was timestamped yesterday, June 11 at 20:55
Here is an image of the storms that are bearing down in that specific area. I snipped it just now so approx timestamp is 23:22. So just a little over the 24 hr mark.
Talk about "in your face". How can you DENY the connection here??

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[Sidney]

I have merged the two threads with the title of the Huge haarp ring over canada.

[MadMax1]

Forgive me for sounding stupid here but what is a Harp ring ? can you please explain what it is and what it does, thankyou.

[wolf_rt]

Harp is a big radio installation (there are many sites now) that was supposed to be for communicating with submarines or some b.s.
It is widely accepted and documented that these harp sites are used to heat the ionosphere which causes it to bulge.

It is fairly obvious that harp is responsible for strange circular weather patterns that have been appearing worldwide in increasing numbers.
the perfectly circular donut shape one shown in this thread is probably the most pronounced one i have seen.

there is much speculation about what it is used for, causing earthquakes, mind control... ect...

as sydney shows, there seems to be a clear link to weather modification here. though that doesn't prove that harp is solely a weather modification device.

[MadMax1]

Ok i get why they would want to manipulate the ionoshpere as that is was radio waves bounce off of for some communications so increasing the layers would increase perfomance of them but the atmosphere that is responsible for our weather as far lower then the ionosphere. Can you explain to me how they manipulate the weather atmosphere to create these round shaped storm cells i find it very facsinating if they are capable of controlling the weather this well. Once again apologies if a am coming across as being unknowledgable on the subject but i find the only way to learn is to ask and get info from those who know what is going on and thankyou for the answers.

[Prodigal Son]

Ok i get why they would want to manipulate the ionoshpere as that is was radio waves bounce off of for some communications so increasing the layers would increase perfomance of them but the atmosphere that is responsible for our weather as far lower then the ionosphere. Can you explain to me how they manipulate the weather atmosphere to create these round shaped storm cells i find it very facsinating if they are capable of controlling the weather this well. Once again apologies if a am coming across as being unknowledgable on the subject but i find the only way to learn is to ask and get info from those who know what is going on and thankyou for the answers.There may be a little confusion here because it actually has two a's ..... HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research.... and it has definitely been linked to NEXRAD weather modification. These two videos should help explain it.

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[Lifebringer]

Alright people, let's lift the harp!

Focus ask your guides it looks like Cheney's lost it.

PTW are trying to set off the Madrid by the looks of it. See the sun light reflect and burnoff that humidity. Push the light through it like swiss cheese for just many rain storms.

Looks like we need quite a few united like power rangers. See sunshine over the country from west to east, and lift it with LOVE for the world and humans in it's path.
Pray they get caught and see the ones doing it with people/swat moving in on them and cuffing the little evil scientist that makes people do this.

ALL together now, let's lighten the loads of the storms. Focus on setting it off reverse in their little lab below ground.
Squash the rays whenever they activate it with LOVE. Just a simple, sorry, but your' not allowed to play with that weapon, will do.

Heavenly Father stop these little imps below that are cornered and reeking havoc in your Earth's systems. If it be your will, fine, but the little technological hellrainmaker, has to go or be seized for the good of the future during low rain areas. To think if we could use this for the good and in the drought and deserted areas, could create our very own Eden with oasis and lush abundant crops to feed the world. If it be Your will, help us to unite in love and prevent so much loss of children these days. NO parents and untrustworthy adoption/slave trading. Please hear our cry for justice against those who trespass on US/world.

Reverse this people, it's good practice, altogeather, in the name of the Jesus Christ, lift the weapon of weather destruction. This is their WMD, when the countries they want to enslave, or won't be blackmailed, don't cooperate. Ergo, the temper tantrum.

Swat that behind ever so gently with the force of LOVE, and send it away from the planet.

[MadMax1]

Thanks for posting the videos Prodigal son they were very helpfull in explaining how they are suppose to work, i would love to know how they are explaining that circular pattern of rain cloud in the media over there in the US it hasnot been mentioned here other then there are storm fronts that have combined into one big storm.

[Nick Matkin]

I think those videos are misleading to anyone who is not familiar with the ionosphere, troposphere or radar.

I still haven't seen a coherent EXPLANATION of how HAARP influences the weather and those videos only attempt to connect unrelated images and facts. Unfortunately, to anyone untrained in science they may look convincing

Of course the "bad weather" is centred around the weather radars in the video, they're not causing it, they're displaying it! And the powers quoted are what you'd expect for a useful radar system. So what?

Yes, HAARP is a radio transmitter that carries out measurements on the ionosphere - 50 to 200 miles up. It works in the 3 to 10 MHz range. This is confirmed by an experienced eye looking at the huge antenna field.

How does anything HAARP do affect the weather, generated in the troposphere - 0 to 5 miles up? The lower levels of atmosphere are not affected by radio signals. If they were we'd know by now. Gigawatts of radio waves bombarded the ionosphere over Europe for 30 years during the Cold-War - EVERY DAY. Dozens of very-high power HF radio stations and just as many Soviet jammers. The effect on weather? Nil. On the ionosphere? Temporary minor heating, enabling it to reflect (actually refract) slightly higher frequencies than without the heating. Went back to normal when the transmitters went off.

The ionosphere affects some radio communications (3 - 50 MHz specifically) and can also influence satellite signals, including GPS so it's important to know as much about the ionosphere as possible.

The energy man can beam into the sky is insignificant compared to the sun.

I don't know what the ring is. A radar-interference artefact? Mischievous Photoshopping? Computer glitch?

Get a meteorologist to explain this HAARP-weather stuff. Or an atmospheric physicist. I'm only an radio frequency engineer...

Regards,

Nick

[Lifebringer]

If you follow their hateful mind intent, unjudgmentally, you can kinda figure out where the targets are. My guess is it's the poor, and blue states of high density. So that also gives you a description of the person. Then you figure out where orgs are that are into that sorta thingy, their branches of areas and where the signature pulse begins, then round them up as domestic terrorist, for the deaths of their storms. They are trying to use cataclysmic fear, to feed. Humanity's awakening has them in fear of losing, and they are cornered. Like Satan they have to go below ground or hide from the light.

Pick an environment, that has that type of description, and you find the states in which coincide, with the signature ionic pulse injection, +chemtrails.

Seems like whenever the "news" doesn't follow their script, they strike out, to change the subject.
(silly neoconglobalist elite puppeteers)

[Prodigal Son]

I don't know what the ring is. A radar-interference artefact? Mischievous Photoshopping? Computer glitch?

Get a meteorologist to explain this HAARP-weather stuff. Or an atmospheric physicist. I'm only an radio frequency engineer...


You could be right about that. We need to look at all the angles. There is so much disinformation everywhere.

I found this on ATS, not my favorite shill site, but to me this seems to be accurate.... you be the judge:

HAARP Rings Debunked (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread693240/pg1)

[Kryztian]

My one observation from the ground, here at the Jersey Shore, is that we had heavy chem trailing last night. When we had hurricane Sandy last October, there was heavy chem trailing in the Carolinas - presumably to keep the hurricane from going ashore there. My guess is that chem trails will keep the weather fronts from moving from the Mid-West to us in the East, keeping more pressure and creating further devastation.

My prayers are with those of you in the Mid-West.

[Lifebringer]

I think, that in past lives, I remained silent on truth and justice, and was sent back to speak out loudly and clearly on blogs and in caps to gain attention on issues that the press omits, and concern the voters.

When they shot the witness in FL who was unarmed and in custody, and the blackwater patches visible on their caps, and connections abroad to terrorist, then nothing?
Hmmm....whistleblower, may have info on that? Ever think about it?

I think the hounds of the alphabet, have been given the scent, and it won't be long, before they track him, unless someone picks up the tab in their name. It would be wise to let this conscientious servicemen sworn to protect the Constitution first, and agency corruption last/domestic terrorism on the tax dollar or other tax cut scheme when they can't get a write off.

Just saying their way of thinking "security only, the voters be damned/shut up" will never fit in ANY DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY AND LOVE.

Greed hath no house/home in the Father's Kingdom.

[Nick Matkin]

Thanks for the links Prodigal Son. I've seen interference between two or more radar facilities, and yes, it is ring shaped. But stick an image of it on the internet, mention 'weather anomalies' and HAARP and the whole nonsense just gains momentum. The maps in the link show all these 'sinister' rings are centred on airports or other facilities with radar. So it looks very likely indeed that the rings are interference caused by weather radar and other types of radar which sometimes screws up the data-processing software.

If there's an alternative explanation, then would someone please post it! (Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.)

Odd that no one living in or near these huge rings report strange weather.

This stuff just gets repeated by the well-intentioned conspiracy theorists who, through no fault of their own, probably couldn't tell you the difference between a radar reflection, a solar flare or a pole shift, other than they're all controlled by the sinister New World Order, Bliderberg Group or the Illuminati.

There is enough disinformation in the MS media. Our beloved alternative media should not be scared to demystify a phenomenon when probable explanation comes to light. We are not likely to run out of REAL mysteries any time soon.

Now... how long will it be before the HAARP rings are posted again on PA?

Regards,

Nick

[Sidney]

Thanks for the links Prodigal Son. I've seen interference between two or more radar facilities, and yes, it is ring shaped. But stick an image of it on the internet, mention 'weather anomalies' and HAARP and the whole nonsense just gains momentum. The maps in the link show all these 'sinister' rings are centred on airports or other facilities with radar. So it looks very likely indeed that the rings are interference caused by weather radar and other types of radar which sometimes screws up the data-processing software.

If there's an alternative explanation, then would someone please post it! (Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.)

Odd that no one living in or near these huge rings report strange weather.

This stuff just gets repeated by the well-intentioned conspiracy theorists who, through no fault of their own, probably couldn't tell you the difference between a radar reflection, a solar flare or a pole shift, other than they're all controlled by the sinister New World Order, Bliderberg Group or the Illuminati.

There is enough disinformation in the MS media. Our beloved alternative media should not be scared to demystify a phenomenon when probable explanation comes to light. We are not likely to run out of REAL mysteries any time soon.

Now... how long will it be before the HAARP rings are posted again on PA?

Regards,

Nick

I happen to disagree with you. There is plenty of evidence IMO, from the research done by Dutchsinse and others. (Dutchsinse, and his family members, are not targeted because he is wrong, sorry). And Haarp rings will continue to be posted on PA, whether someone believes it or not.

[tnkayaker]

i used to think chem trails were all a bunch of crap until i saw them for myself and realized they werent contrails, its all connected in some way, possibly this is still in the testing and tuning phases and even though wild weather things have been ocurring i dont think we have seen the whole intent just yet uinfortunately, and nick martin if rubs me a bit coarsely that you could make such statements its almost as if you dont see the forest through the trees, its obvious that something is being messed with weather wise, open your eyes brother, peace,dennis

[tnkayaker]

[QUOTE=MadMax1;687244]Ok i get why they would want to manipulate the ionoshpere as that is was radio waves bounce off of for some communications so increasing the layers would increase perfomance of them but the atmosphere that is responsible for our weather as far lower then the ionosphere. Can you explain to me how they manipulate the weather atmosphere to create these round shaped storm cells i find it very facsinating if they are capable of controlling the weather this well. Once again apologies if a am coming across as being unknowledgable on the subject but i find the only way to learn is to ask and get info from those who know what is going on and thankyou for the answers.There may be a little confusion here because it actually has two a's ..... HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research.... and it has definitely been linked to NEXRAD weather modification. These two videos should help explain it.



thank you so much for this info, i have tried to explain how haarp works to a few buddies but never could make sence out of what i was saying, now i can explain with solid info, peace,dennis

[Prodigal Son]

I had not known about HAARP rings before this thread. Please forgive me for posting from the hip.

I thought that such a strange anomaly would be very noticeable on any weather-site doppler map and even from the ground. Well guess what I came across earlier...... just look at the front edge of this thing:

http://rt.com/usa/storm-derecho-disaster-gigantic-589/

http://rt.com/files/news/1f/64/d0/00/storm-derecho-disaster-gigantic.si.jpg

[Earth Angel]

wow, i live right in the middle of that ring! we have certainly had the weirdest spring/summer in the 16 years I have lived here.....going from 28 degrees to snow and below zero from one day to the next.......tons of rain, like never before, plenty of power failures too.

[soleil]

ut oh. im just east of there. :( prayers for sunny skies across NA. :)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

the news was talking about "derecho" storms this week -- could HAARP trigger one of these freak storms?

[ceetee9]

Thanks for the links Prodigal Son. I've seen interference between two or more radar facilities, and yes, it is ring shaped. But stick an image of it on the internet, mention 'weather anomalies' and HAARP and the whole nonsense just gains momentum. The maps in the link show all these 'sinister' rings are centred on airports or other facilities with radar. So it looks very likely indeed that the rings are interference caused by weather radar and other types of radar which sometimes screws up the data-processing software.

If there's an alternative explanation, then would someone please post it! (Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.)

Odd that no one living in or near these huge rings report strange weather.

This stuff just gets repeated by the well-intentioned conspiracy theorists who, through no fault of their own, probably couldn't tell you the difference between a radar reflection, a solar flare or a pole shift, other than they're all controlled by the sinister New World Order, Bliderberg Group or the Illuminati.

There is enough disinformation in the MS media. Our beloved alternative media should not be scared to demystify a phenomenon when probable explanation comes to light. We are not likely to run out of REAL mysteries any time soon.

Now... how long will it be before the HAARP rings are posted again on PA?

Regards,

NickThere are several US patents (e.g., 4,686,605, 5,041,834) you can peruse and a great deal written about HAARP, including by people who worked on HAARP, and while I certainly won't claim that HAARP IS responsible for all the strange weather patterns there is ample evidence that it can not only affect weather patterns but be used as a weapon--ostensibly to control the weather surrounding a battle front which was one of its goals I believe).

Here are a couple of links that may be helpful. The PDF has many references (including to patents) and explains the history of HAARP.

Angels Don't Play This HAARP (http://freedomfchs.com/adpthaarp.pdf)
Billy's Update (http://billysupdate.blogspot.com/2011/04/us-patent-no-4686605-haarp.html)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

http://beforeitsnews.com/weather/2013/06/haarp-status-increases-as-dangerous-derecho-storm-approaches-ohio-2440950.html
check this out

HAARP Status Increases As Dangerous Derecho Storm Approaches Ohio

Wednesday, June 12, 2013 14:26

http://www.theweatherspace.com/hs/haarpstatuslongwave.jpg

http://vineoflife.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/dericho.jpg?w=700

[Lifebringer]

Very very good people/citizens worldwide. Have you heard the weather people trying to explain the different directions of the wind with minimal loss of life?

Great day of practice in the name of Christ!

Prayers answered.

[Lifebringer]

A pulse ionic atmospheric injection, activated against those "who oppose" their actions or intent. Japan 03/11/11 and other little 5th column hidden gov alphabet soup/snoop.

Might sound like a lot of babbling bs, but for real, each has it's own international power and they have 'fiat" money they want to use, but WE the People and China and the BRIC nations, want backed by precious metal GOLD OR SILVER AS KENNEDY, SENATOR RON PAUL, AND ROBERT KENNEDY WANTED "FOR THIS COUNTRY."

However the super crooked Wall ST banksers merged the dark money w/gov money and scams/inside trading, even down to "disaster relief."

Oh yeah, Red Cross was knee deep 911 hoarding funds for the next faux emergency caused by catastrophic weather and charities. 501 c3 and 4's used to feather the elites caps with donation money.

MY GOD, they have NO shame. When Haiti happened also, a lot was found out, but that didn't interest the right, unless their rep, had a stake in the kitty.


Revelation is HERE and now!

The medicine for American Voters that voted for these people for years and fell asleep, may not taste so good, but, the truth will heal the wounds, and boils of citizens left out of their own baked pie/AMERICA.

[MadMax1]

Ok i have looked into What NEXRAD is and does and so far i have not found any reference to HAARP , NEXRAD is a S band doppler radar system that detects presipitation and atmospheric movement or wind, they are spread across the US and some other countries. I have looked at a few different sites which explain what it is and how it works and i have looked at what HAARP does and i could not find a link with the two that says they operate together to make and control the weather. Is anyone able to post a link to any information on these 2 groups working together? i am just trying to work out how people know about this and if there is hard evidence i am not trying to discredit anyone here. The closest thing i could find to a HAARP ring is what meteoroligists call a derecho which is bow shaped or can look comma shaped storm front that can be up to 300km wide. What i have found on HAARP is they study the propertys and behaviour of the ionosphere which enable them to understand it and use it to enhance communications and survellience systems for civilien and defence purposes. The troposphere which is where weather occurs and is formed goes up to 16 km or 10 miles the ionosphere is located in the upper mesosphere 50km or30miles to 85km or 53miles and the thermosphere which is 85km or 53 miles to 600km or 370miles. If you can tell me how these 2 are linked it would be greatly appreciated because i have not been able to find any real information that they are working in conjunction with each other to manipulate weather systems.

[Hervé]

Ok i have looked into What NEXRAD is and does and so far i have not found any reference to HAARP , NEXRAD is a S band doppler radar system that detects presipitation and atmospheric movement or wind, they are spread across the US and some other countries. I have looked at a few different sites which explain what it is and how it works and i have looked at what HAARP does and i could not find a link with the two that says they operate together to make and control the weather.

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There are many different ways it can be done and, first, without HAARP nor radar microwave: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51567-Hurricane-Sandy-HAARP-Interaction-Evidence&p=577682&viewfull=1#post577682

As for HAARP:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png After discovering that the ionosphere reacted strongly to HAARP transmissions, the project was militarized (see US Patent 4,686,605, “Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere”) and can now create ionospheric lenses that can be used to focus the sun's rays on a specific area, causing a localized rise in ground, ocean or atmospheric temperatures. This updraft creates a low pressure system at low altitudes and a high pressure system at high altitudes, and can be used to modify the flow of weather patterns.http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png

The sun provides the needed energy to manipulate these atmospheric instabilities (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51567-Hurricane-Sandy-HAARP-Interaction-Evidence&p=578011&viewfull=1#post578011).

From Daniel's Geoengineering, Chemtrails, HAARP, World Orders, Time Lines and Ascension paper (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51752-Geoengineering-Chemtrails-HAARP-World-Orders-Time-Lines-and-Ascension)



What is definitely NOT being used:


A COVERT WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION

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By Barbara Aho, June 2, 2011


AN OVERVIEW OF WEATHER MODIFICATION IN THE USA
Between 1962 and 1983, the United States Navy, the U.S. Weather Bureau and the National Science Foundation carried out an experimental research program that was yielding some success in moderating hurricanes. Project Stormfury, however, was suspended and eventually terminated for specious reasons. Commenting on an overview of The Stormfury Era (http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hrd_sub/stormfury_era.html) by the Hurricane Research Division of the Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory, Dick Eastman, MS, MA noted that the privatization of the weather-related government agencies was a factor in the termination of this project:

“[Project Stormfury] was discontinued just as new planes for doing the interventions were made available. It seems that we had a deliberate effort to stifle success at the very time that the national weather bureau and other weather-related government agencies were being privatized (the National Weather Service, like the Federal Reserve Bank, the Atomic Energy Commission and the National Science Foundation are privately owned and controlled organizations -- each operating in their respective fields in totally unregulated and largely unsupervised environments, with the public thinking that each is part of the government...

“Storm Fury demonstrated -- regardless of the sophistry -- that hurricane winds can be reduced from 130 mph to 75 or 80 mph -- a difference that means the difference of billions in damages and of doubtless many lives.

“But we are not only seeing the deliberate decision to let disaster happen when it could be prevented -- we are seeing something much worse -- the deliberate use of this technology developed by minds that sought to help mankind as a means of destroying our homes and killing our people for the sake of ’disaster-industry’ profit and ‘national-emergency’ power.” (1096 (http://watch-unto-prayer.org/notes.html#r1096))

Now, for the link between HAARP creating lenses in the ionosphere and radar microwaves... these microwaves are beamed at the lense and focused onto whatever target is decided... that's my understanding at the moment.

[Daughter of Time]

There's been much heavy rain in Southern Ontario lately, and whenever it rains, it gets extremely dark, like an unnatural darkness. Also, people seem to become extremely depressed or argumentative whenever it rains now. Moods are affected to an alarming degree.

A couple of years ago we had huge amounts of snow in the winter. The strange thing is that the snow fall was accompanied by thunder and lightning. This phenomenon was something I'd never witnessed before. One day while driving down a hill facing an open space during a heavy snowfall, I could see the lightning coming out of purple and green clouds. Clouds are not supposed to be purple and green. I don't see how any of this can be natural.

[sandy]

Just to add to weather strangeness........................a few days back we had a hailstorm that came out of no where?? Rain was the prediction but no rain, it was overcast somewhat and quite cool and then down came quarter sized hail .......................no lightening, no winds, one big thunder event and "37 minutes" of non-stop hail.............................. In my 65 years on this earth I have never experienced a hail storm that lasted any longer than 5-10 minutes (including the 87' tornado that hit Edmonton).we had no indications of such because of extreme heat and cold mixing. Our temperatures this summer continue to average 19-20 cel. with cool winds, often cloudy with little to no rain. Overall what I found astonishing was the length of time it hailed>>>>37 minutes!!!

[Earth Angel]

also while the weathernetwork.com is not the best at predicting the days weather, they have been wrong quite a lot lately.....on days where it says NO chance of rain, its dull rainy and overcast....on days where its supposed to rain all day its sunny and dry......I know its the only profession where you can get it wrong 50% of the time and still keep your job! but this is getting ridiculous......might have to resort to the old 'stick your head out the door' if you want to know what the weather will be

[MadMax1]

Just a thought here as i am still not convinced about people controlling the weather has anyone looked into natural forces affecting the weather? i have had a brief browse of information and have found that magnetic pole shift can also cause drastic weather changes. Australia weather records only go back 150 years that i could find but their is a distinct pattern of wild weather around every 40 to 80 years which made me check up on magnetic pole shift and it also can cause drastic weather changes that are not preventable. I realise alot believe in the HAARP theory and that's fine i am just trying to find other more natural solutions to this and magnetic pole shift is a major player, at the moment magnetic poles are on the move quite a bit so it might pay if anyone has some information on this subject to post it for everyone to look at. Is it ok to talk about this on this post or should another one be started? i don't want to offend anyone by seeming to look for other solutions here but i think this warrants looking into. Please let me know if i can add talk about magnetic pole shift being the culprit or if it should be in another post, thankyou.

[Daughter of Time]

also while the weathernetwork.com is not the best at predicting the days weather, they have been wrong quite a lot lately.....on days where it says NO chance of rain, its dull rainy and overcast....on days where its supposed to rain all day its sunny and dry......I know its the only profession where you can get it wrong 50% of the time and still keep your job! but this is getting ridiculous......might have to resort to the old 'stick your head out the door' if you want to know what the weather will be

Whenever rain was nearing, a number of crows would be crowing their heads off on top of the building across the street from where I live. Their prediction of rain was as accurate as a rooster's prediction of daylight. But someone decided this was a "clean" neighborhood and they didn't want crows, pigeons, blackbirds and other winged creatures around so they lay poison and the unsuspecting victims all died. Not only did this sadden me greatly because of the heartlessness of the poisoners and because I find birds very beautiful, but now I have no way of knowing when it's going to rain anymore.