Instructions to Illuminati.

[Tony]

Instructions to Illuminati.

If we want to control a society,
control the young
and wait for the old to die.

Control the young
by creating addictions.

Control the young
by creating trauma.

Control the young
by creating stress through social media.

It's all good manure!

Above all, always create an enemy-
someone to blame -
create a lack empathy.

The only problem is,
we cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
And there is our hidden danger.

Underneath it all, they intrinsically know their true nature - loving kindness.
This is abhorrent to us, as it encourages spontaneity and joy.

As they are many but we are few,
we must be constantly vigilant in our manipulations,
in getting them to do our work.

You may get the urge to join them,
as at some stage, we too
will have to realise our true nature.

This must not happen under any circumstances,
as you will lose your personal power.

Keep them arguing.
Keep them confused.
Keep them in fear.
These are our greatest weapon.

[Lifebringer]

Boy are they in for a rude awakening about these generations.

[donk]

God I hope you are right lifebringer. The one thing I learned, is how easily manipulated we are in these meatbags...and "they" had gotten it down to science looooong before "we" even suspected....

[Tony]

If we know how we are being played, we can no longer be played!

Their greatest problem is that they have used psychology and spirituality
to advance their agenda. Likewise if we understand psychology and spirituality
we can get inside their agenda.

Put it this way...if I were them I'd do the same things!

It all comes down to consciousness and the misdirection of consciousness.
This means that they have no real inspiration of their own they can only use
what we know, what we allow, what we consent to.

Tony

[Soulboy]

If we know how we are being played, we can no longer be played!


I call RUMPELSTILTSKIN

[soleil]

the penthouse is a crumbling.

[mosquito]

....control the young
and wait for the old to die.....

Essentially what I've pointed out many a time in oher threads. Which is why 1000 35-year olds becoming conscious, great though that is, is of absolutely no concern to the BIP while they continue to control education and the media, whereby they successfully control the children.

Read "The Golden Compass" by Philip Putnam, the strory line where the dark powers wish to sever childrens' connection to their daemon (spirit) is an excellent, chilling metaphor for the situation as it stands in the "real" (god help us) world.

[Sith73]

Oh yea the powers that were. Some people don't know when they have lost which equals the cabal and illuminant. They will try to keep pushing there agenda. That's all fine and dandy, but their poop castle is falling apart.

[Ioneo]

I left the U.S. in 1980 and return for a visit every few years to visit family. I've witnessed the slow decline in every facet of society. Particularly noticeable is the dumbing down of the younger generations. Watching movies and TV shows, I have been shocked at the roles they play with the language, moral values (or lack there of), sexual innuendos etc. relatives tell me how young people can no longer think logically when they start working, their lack of knowledge about most things and especially their lack of motivation.

The Tavistock Institute has been busy at work on the population but especially the youth.

[AwakeInADream]

Instructions to Illuminati.

You may get the urge to join them,
as at some stage, we too
will have to realise our true nature.

This must not happen under any circumstances,
as you will lose your personal power.


This part (in particular) does not make sense. Surely 'personal power' comes from realizing our true nature?

And 'They' are only 'us' with ego on overdrive. Or even 'they' are ego, and hence 'they' don't exist.

Anyways, 'they' are fighting a losing battle ultimately.

[Tony]

Instructions to Illuminati.

You may get the urge to join them,
as at some stage, we too
will have to realise our true nature.

This must not happen under any circumstances,
as you will lose your personal power.


This part (in particular) does not make sense. Surely 'personal power' comes from realizing our true nature?

And 'They' are only 'us' with ego on overdrive. Or even 'they' are ego, and hence 'they' don't exist.

Anyways, 'they' are fighting a losing battle ultimately.



Personal power is just an inflated ego, it has nothing to do with true divinity.
The difference is between selfishness and selflessness.

[Tony]

We have to know the difference our mind chattering, and the experience of still essence.
Even if these Illuminati fellows are taken out of the picture, what we will be left with is... us.

We are still subject to hatred, anger, pride, jealousy, fear. That is the real enemy.
It is because we carry these negative emotions around with us that the the extreme of us,
the illuminati, are allowed to flourish. They use our frailty.

We have to clean our own house, before we start cleaning others houses.

[Tony]

Their power falls apart, when we recognise the true nature of these negative emotions.
The secret life of the negative emotions is wisdom...that is the Buddha in the Mud!

[greybeard]

We have to know the difference our mind chattering, and the experience of still essence.
Even if these Illuminati fellows are taken out of the picture, what we will be left with is... us.

We are still subject to hatred, anger, pride, jealousy, fear. That is the real enemy.
It is because we carry these negative emotions around with us that the the extreme of us,
the illuminati, are allowed to flourish. They use our frailty.

We have to clean our own house, before we start cleaning others houses.

Hi Tony
very true.
We all have what is called an attractor field which is explained very clearly in "Power vs Force the hidden determinants to human behaviour" which was written by one of the leading Psychiatrists of our time Dr David Hawkins--Instead of staying with the status quo he investigated all kinds of healing modalities one of which is based on "A Course in Miracles"

So to get to the point, even if there was no Illuminati, unless we do the work to change individually, we personally will attract more of the same--different name, same modus operandi.
By changing individually, we raise the collective consciousness---that's our responsibility--no one else’s.
Our spiritual vibration and hence attractor field is down to us.
This is good because we are not beholden to anyone else to attract good life supporting things into our life.
If we are content/happy then we affect others positively.
Chris

[Tony]

We have to know the difference our mind chattering, and the experience of still essence.
Even if these Illuminati fellows are taken out of the picture, what we will be left with is... us.

We are still subject to hatred, anger, pride, jealousy, fear. That is the real enemy.
It is because we carry these negative emotions around with us that the the extreme of us,
the illuminati, are allowed to flourish. They use our frailty.

We have to clean our own house, before we start cleaning others houses.

Hi Tony
very true.
We all have what is called an attractor field which is explained very clearly in "Power vs Force the hidden determinants to human behaviour" which was written by one of the leading Psychiatrists of our time Dr David Hawkins--Instead of staying with the status quo he investigated all kinds of healing modalities one of which is based on "A Course in Miracles"

So to get to the point, even if there was no Illuminati, unless we do the work to change individually, we personally will attract more of the same--different name, same modus operandi.
By changing individually, we raise the collective consciousness---that's our responsibility--no one else’s.
Our spiritual vibration and hence attractor field is down to us.
This is good because we are not beholden to anyone else to attract good life supporting things into our life.
If we are content/happy then we affect others positively.
Chris


Hello Chris,

Perfect!
The moment we stop running around fooling ourselves, is the moment the world changes.
If we could only stop holding up the filters in our mind, stop congratulating ourselves,
those filters would just drop away.


Tony

[Chester]

Instructions to Illuminati.

You may get the urge to join them,
as at some stage, we too
will have to realise our true nature.

This must not happen under any circumstances,
as you will lose your personal power.


This part (in particular) does not make sense. Surely 'personal power' comes from realizing our true nature?

And 'They' are only 'us' with ego on overdrive. Or even 'they' are ego, and hence 'they' don't exist.

Anyways, 'they' are fighting a losing battle ultimately.

Perhaps each of us is an individual spirit being who decides, still can, and hopefully will always decide, even if only to a tiny degree, if one is STS oriented or STO oriented.

This is what I thought Tony was saying except that I believe when one discovers their own true nature, they can change their nature if they so desire. If it is not this way, I wouldn't be here because I would not have any part of a paradigm where I am stuck with some permanent, unchangeable "true nature" other than my unshaded connection to my origination.

We may also at some point try one flavor and then change our mind. Why not?

I do not see any way any being can be automatically placed in one camp or another based on any type of form they may possess and/or project.

This line of yours, Awake -


And 'They' are only 'us' with ego on overdrive. Or even 'they' are ego, and hence 'they' don't exist.

I like this and agree with this 100%. In being honest, I know I have emulated being a "they" many times in just this lifetime alone.

[Tony]

The mind always fools us, because it is full of concepts. It is this foolish mind that thinks it can change to something better, and all it does is change its contents with more concepts :p !

That which aware of the comings and goings of the mind IS our true nature. However, even this awareness in conceptual, until it looks in on itself and finds absolutely nothing...no concepts...no contrivances...no beliefs....no constructs.

Empty of any contamination: unchanging, never born, never dies. That is essence-pure awareness.

We are not creating anything, rather merely destroying the confusion that surrounds us. The very clinging to our concepts about ourselves is called ego-clinging. The act of holding on called ego. And true, there is no actual thing called ego.

If we truly did know our essential nature anddropped all clinging, we would be enlightened...but we don't, and we aren't!

That is why we are here...to let go! Oh, and above all, to be compassionate to all.
Of course this is easier said than done!:o

[AwakeInADream]

It's kind of a paradox really that first you have to change and transform your outer life (become more and more compassionate, etc.) before you can then discover that which does not change. Also that the only constant in life seems to be change, and yet the ultimate goal is to become unchangeable.

From what you've said Tony, it seems to me that there may be a shortcut?
If someone (even someone STS or perhaps someone 'evil') just dropped all clinging now they would become enlightened?

Why don't people just take this shortcut? Is it too difficult? To steep a path to climb in one go?

When the Illuminati say "we too will have to realise our true nature." I think that's true. It's inevitable in my opinion that all sentient beings will one day do this and merge back into Source. It seems like The Illuminati are consciously putting off real Illumination for a few eons or so, so they can have a little more fun being selfish for a time. In a way it's like me, fully intending to give up smoking, but just putting it off for a while(it's always one last pack:o).

I wonder would an 'evil' man, who dropped everything to become enlightened, also be instantly free of all Karma? None to pay? Is Karma essentially an illusion too?

[Tony]

It's kind of a paradox really that first you have to change and transform your outer life (become more and more compassionate, etc.) before you can then discover that which does not change. Also that the only constant in life seems to be change, and yet the ultimate goal is to become unchangeable.

From what you've said Tony, it seems to me that there may be a shortcut?
If someone (even someone STS or perhaps someone 'evil') just dropped all clinging now they would become enlightened?

Why don't people just take this shortcut? Is it too difficult? To steep a path to climb in one go?

When the Illuminati say "we too will have to realise our true nature." I think that's true. It's inevitable in my opinion that all sentient beings will one day do this and merge back into Source. It seems like The Illuminati are consciously putting off real Illumination for a few eons or so, so they can have a little more fun being selfish for a time. In a way it's like me, fully intending to give up smoking, but just putting it off for a while(it's always one last pack:o).

I wonder would an 'evil' man, who dropped everything to become enlightened, also be instantly free of all Karma? None to pay? Is Karma essentially an illusion too?





You make some very good points.
The problem is...it is so simple, but not at all easy. The clinging ego will react to any suggestion of giving up. However as you say, karma is a illusion.
Karma is only our mind or consciousness holding onto its acquired ideas. We dissolve them by not reacting, but this doesn't mean we do nothing.

Yes, there is a short cut, but it still takes effortless effort. What you call Source is our true nature and essence - pure awareness. We don't merge with the Source: we drop our imagined self identity....we are that which we seek! This is not at all easy as we are still holding on to ideas. The short cut is devotion! But to understand that properly we need a deep appreciation and trust in (this isn't easy to say on a forum:o) enlightened beings. With supplication to these enlightened beings we receive blessing...help!

As for evil people getting enlightened - yes they can! but this will mean a tremendous turnaround, all their karma coming to a head in their last incarnation. This is what happened to Milarepa. He was a Tibetan black magic sorcerer, who met his teacher, Marpa. He had to go through a spiritual bootcamp, but achieved enlightenment in one life time. He was probably a very powerful person in previous live times!

If we claim these good powers, those good powers- good karma can turn bad.

All sentient beings are Buddhas, but asleep. All Buddhas are sentient being, but awake.

We have all been evil at some time, now it's bootcamp time...if we are fortunate!


All the best,
Tony

[AwakeInADream]

As for evil people getting enlightened - yes they can! but this will mean a tremendous turnaround, all their karma coming to a head in their last incarnation. This is what happened to Milarepa. He was a Tibetan black magic sorcerer, who met his teacher, Marpa. He had to go through a spiritual bootcamp, but achieved enlightenment in one life time. He was probably a very powerful person in previous live times!


Thanks Tony!:)

I'd not heard of Milarepa before, his story looks interesting.

A quote from Wikipedia:


Milarepa later lamented his evil ways in his older years in conversation with Rechungpa: "In my youth I committed black deeds. In maturity I practised innocence. Now, released from both good and evil, I have destroyed the root of karmic action and shall have no reason for action in the future. To say more than this would only cause weeping and laughter. What good would it do to tell you? I am an old man. Leave me in peace."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milarepa

I'm going to have a look at this book mentioned on Wikipedia also, to find out more. "Magic and Mystery in Tibet" by French explorer Alexandra David-Néel (1.5Mb).
http://www.awakeningblog.com/uploads/5/1/9/7/519776/magic_and_mystery_in_tibet-alexandra_david_neel-1932-354pgs-mag.sml.pdf

Cheers!:)

Awake

[Tony]

I actually passed on the story of Milarepa to Atticus/Charles/Steven - via a mutual acquaintance - to give him hope! ;)

[AwakeInADream]

LOL. Yup! It does go to show there is hope for all of us yet.:)