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happytobe
16th June 2013, 03:46
It's appalling to hear the Washington bureaucrats and their media allies trash Edward Snowden as a traitor, when it's our leaders and the NSA who have betrayed us, writes Kirsten Powers.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/14/the-sickening-snowden-backlash.html
Speaker John Boehner called Snowden a "traitor."
Senator Dianne Feinstein calls the leaks "an act of treason."
Washington Post columnist Rich Cohen smears Snowden as a "cross-dressing Little Red Riding Hood."
New York Times's David Brooks laments that Snowden was too "individualistic."
The New Yorker's Jeffrey Toobin wrote that Snowden is "a grandiose narcissist who deserves to be in prison."
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell complained about Snowden’s naiveté and “maturity level.”
Politico’s Roger Simon called Snowden “the slacker who came in from the cold,” with “all the qualifications to become a grocery bagger.”
On Wednesday's Late Show With David Letterman, Tom Brokaw dismissed Snowden as "a high school dropout who is a military washout."
On Tuesday, Sen. Susan Collins, mocked the 29-year-old man as “a high school drop-out who had little maturity [and] had not successfully completed anything he had undertaken."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/14/the-sickening-snowden-backlash.html
Former CIA Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash said Snowden is “very dangerous” and “delusional.”
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/former-cia-chief-staff-snowden-delusional-could-aiding-111926012.html
FYI...
"... The chosen ones have decided he [Snowden] must go! They are going to make it impossible for him to move from where he now is. Sorry but he is already on death row. They will do character assassination before they take him down. "
A Source of Kerry Cassidy's ( Kerry's paraphrasing)
http://projectcamelotportal.com/home/kerrys-blog/1738-edward-snowden-whistleblower
Prodigal Son
16th June 2013, 04:08
Not one of those character assassinations was able to refute anything Snowden leaked. They are quite transparent to any critical thinker. Whoever is still buying that crap deserves what the elite want to give them.
Ioneo
16th June 2013, 04:17
They always resort to #5 from the 25 Rules of Disinformation: character assassination.
Rosieposie
16th June 2013, 04:24
Consider it a lesson for people, or a test at this stage of things. At the moment the people in power are walking in dangerous territory they are pushing people into two categories, those who are not capable/don't want to think/feel according to their moral core.. and those who do. By becoming more and more obvious in their own standpoints they make the truth so obvious it is becoming too hard for people to ignore and increasingly difficult not to act according to that moral spark. It also has a topple down effect, if people realize how morally poor these people are on this topic it becomes a whole lot more easy to swallow other uncomfortable truths that need to be dealt with.
gripreaper
16th June 2013, 05:50
Let's take the parallax view.
1. Snowden brought into the public mainstream arena, nefarious covert and unlawful surveillance by government agencies.
2. Snowden brought into the public mainstream the fact that we have no privacy whatsoever anymore.
3. Snowden brought into the public mainstream awareness how corrupt our government is.
4. Snowden brought into the public mainstream awareness, the depth, breadth and extreme extent of the data gathering.
5. Snowden brought into the public mainstream consciousness how we are all considered terrorist.
6. Snowden brought into the public mainstream how anyone, regardless of how innocuous, can be targeted.
7. Snowden helped bring awareness to how whistleblowers who bring out the truth are treated.
8. Snowden helped bring awareness of how much he sacrificed and gave up to bring the truth out.
9. Snowden helped bring awareness of how sick mainstream media is, and how news is slander and character assassination.
10. Snowden helped bring awareness to the top executives who are corrupt all the way to the top.
11. Snowden helped bring awareness to each of us and how we need to prepare and face our lives in the future.
12. Snowden showed us what a true hero really is.
13. Snowden showed us how important the truth out in the light of day is.
14. Snowden showed us how level headed and genuine he is.
15. Snowden showed us how the surveillance news is waking people up to what else our corrupt government is doing to us.
16. Snowden showed us how we too can do our part to bring about change.
17. Snowden showed us that life and liberty are more important than the consequences of going against the tyranny.
Quite frankly, this "Snowden event" has really provided a huge energetic perturbation in the matrix and has both polarities worked up to the max, and the energy is coalescing some very interesting manifestations and changes. I'm encouraged that the truth is coming out all over the place, right into the very living rooms of the people, and the reactions from our government agencies just highlights their perversions, agendas and sickness even more out into the open!
Edward Snowden, if you are reading this, or someone forwards this to you, I want to personally thank you for what you did, and let you know that I am sending strong intention for the best outcome, and you are a true 21st century hero in my book. You have really exposed the scum for who they are and many are seeing the truth for what it is.
sigma6
16th June 2013, 07:13
Wow is that what it is like to live in the US? To listen to all these grossly over paid (usually with heavy doses of tax dollars) ie. trough feeders, mind control babble like that about others by saying they are not as good as themselves essentially? wow,
That is just super creepy in my mind. The US sounds like something out of 1984. It just sounds so unbelievable.
And then you have Ron Paul. The guy who really won the election, but everyone is just too retarded to figure it out...
bogeyman
16th June 2013, 07:19
Some senators are known to be pro intelligence agencies, many mainstream newspapers are own indirectly by the USG. Also we must not forget secret societies, and the old boys club.
It took the government a little bit of planning for the dirty tricks to come into play. This is to destroy the credibility of the witness, so bias the prosecution if it occurs in favour of the government. It also serves as a influence to others on the fence over Snowdon, to gather more momentum in the anti Snowdon campaign. Of course the NSA and others will try to justify the program's exposed, what else do you expect them to do?
bogeyman
16th June 2013, 07:40
Something is bothering me also, with the exposure of Prism program, and the media attention and reaction from many elements of society and governments alike, yet there is virtual silent over Stellar Wind which monitors internal traffic in the US.
sigma6
16th June 2013, 09:08
Then again this whole thing can be yet another grand scheme, a desperate card the US is playing, given their economic situation, and their greater than anticipated difficulty in igniting WWIII. The only way they can make good on their betting the house on military infrastructure (does anyone really trust the US government anymore?)
This could just be another sophisticated 'play', an orchestration of events ... look at all the players. (the usual suspects) All these people seem to all be chiming together, to create a "context" ... a 'soundgarden' of propaganda, like they are reading from a script. Once again activating their hollywood propaganda machine.
Haven't we seen this kind of orchestration before? as described so pointedly in September Clues, which clearly documented that 90% of all the INITIAL "eyewitness accounts" (that made it to air) turned out to be nothing more than Media personalities or friends and family members of media personalities? Has everyone forgotten that? September Clues is proof positive these massively orchestrated events DO HAPPEN.
They created an entire set of MEMES and soundbites, and storylines and phony "eyewitness" accounts... played over the controlled network channels to create a completely false reality for the general public. Who swallowed it hook, line and sinker...
Question is, is it going to fly again this time round... ? And we still don't know what the real angle is? Is this just a huge distraction? Is this supposed to be their excuse and justification to add a even more planks to their surveillance system? Is this an attempt to shake out potential wannabe Snowden's before a major move to do something even more diabolical?
This is how the "machine" talks to the public now... Everything is a code for something else.... Deception Rules... One thing's for sure, the US media and government representatives are not to be taken at face value or literally. They are all solid performance actors capable of projecting any persona they want, even our Stephen Harper has proven... (and had the momentary lapse of reason to "advertise" to the world ... that he is an "acting robot" that can quite literally "mimic" any personality type he wants... at will ... totally effortlessly.... like breathing... (regardless how the media tried to spin it...)
So what's the real angle here?
Phoenix1304
16th June 2013, 10:58
Here's Thrive's response (apologies if it's been posted already). Despite the ever growing cynicism many of us seem to be experiencing, (and recognising that as an effective method of neutralising anything and anyone that might make a difference), I really like Foster Gamble and don't mind standing up and saying so. I hope we don't dismiss the genuine philanthropist for fear of being 'had' by yet another stooge or con-man. No-one wants to be a fool, but the fear of being labelled one is what keeps many cowering in the dark. Until proven otherwise, Thrive seems to me to be an outstanding effort and Ed Snowden was simply heroic.
http://www.thrivemovement.com/if-you-had-edward-snowdens-proof-what-would-you-do.blog
Prodigal Son
16th June 2013, 11:09
Then again this whole thing can be yet another grand scheme, a desperate card the US is playing, given their economic situation, and their greater than anticipated difficulty in igniting WWIII. The only way they can make good on their betting the house on military infrastructure (does anyone really trust the US government anymore?)
This could just be another sophisticated 'play', an orchestration of events ... look at all the players. (the usual suspects) All these people seem to all be chiming together, to create a "context" ... a 'soundgarden' of propaganda, like they are reading from a script. Once again activating their hollywood propaganda machine.
This is not good because the Rothschild cabal is reading from the Biblical script. You can make it all come true if you have enough money and influence to make the world your personal chessboard. It's always been the plan to stage a fake Armageddon from an area reminiscent of or near to the famous battleground at Megiddo. There is something special about this area of the Middle East going back to their Annunaki masters. I'm not sure what it is but it is metaphysical in nature. We've seen a Rothschild attempt recently to ignite the war in Asia with the island dispute between China and Japan and then North Korea would chime in but surely that would spark a Middle East conflict with everyone choosing up sides. This would be the only legitimate place for the "war" but everything is staged. One thing you can count on is plenty of blood sacrifice.
greybeard
16th June 2013, 11:19
Here's Thrive's response (apologies if it's been posted already). Despite the ever growing cynicism many of us seem to be experiencing, (and recognising that as an effective method of neutralising anything and anyone that might make a difference), I really like Foster Gamble and don't mind standing up and saying so. I hope we don't dismiss the genuine philanthropist for fear of being 'had' by yet another stooge or con-man. No-one wants to be a fool, but the fear of being labelled one is what keeps many cowering in the dark. Until proven otherwise, Thrive seems to me to be an outstanding effort and Ed Snowden was simply heroic.
http://www.thrivemovement.com/if-you-had-edward-snowdens-proof-what-would-you-do.blog
Sometimes what you see really is what is.
The powers that be have created so much suspicion and distrust that when honest people try to make a difference--those they are endeavouring to help shoot them down.
There is a big difference between opinion and fact.
There is no real evidence that Snowden is anything other than the real deal--no evidence other than circumstantial that this is not a real whistle blower.
It all helps to raise public awareness.
All that can also apply to Thrive.
Chris
happytobe
16th June 2013, 15:06
Consider it a lesson for people, or a test at this stage of things. At the moment the people in power are walking in dangerous territory they are pushing people into two categories, those who are not capable/don't want to think/feel according to their moral core.. and those who do. By becoming more and more obvious in their own standpoints they make the truth so obvious it is becoming too hard for people to ignore and increasingly difficult not to act according to that moral spark. It also has a topple down effect, if people realize how morally poor these people are on this topic it becomes a whole lot more easy to swallow other uncomfortable truths that need to be dealt with.
Well said Rosieposie!
There is no middle ground on Snowden. People are either going to align themselves with darkness -- knowingly or by default, or in some way reflect the light to a greater degree.
ghostrider
16th June 2013, 16:22
if you expose what they are doing , your considered a traitor... if you walk all over the fourth amendment thats okay... ??? treason is breaking the sacred articles of the constitution and the bill of RIGHTS ...
gripreaper
16th June 2013, 16:32
So what's the real angle here?
The elite controllers are manipulating both sides of the dialectic, to "set up" the problem, before the event which gets the reaction, so that they can then implement their solution.
It takes time to create the memes, indoctrinate the subconscious, and get the general population to accept the draconian tyrannical protocols without even a whimper. The elite have the dialectic so well groomed, so well refined, that we will beg for our own slavery and demand it!.
They know exactly what they are doing and how long it takes. They read the energy in the matrix to determine "when" to implement certain aspects. They have it down to a science.
Daughter of Time
16th June 2013, 16:37
I signed the petition in support of Edward Snowden, and while petitions may not do anything, they do show support.
Over 1 million have signed already.
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_prism_global/?tsZnVcb
Earth Angel
16th June 2013, 17:20
isn't this what they wanted people to do ???? :tape:
happytobe
16th June 2013, 17:36
So what's the real angle here?
The elite controllers are manipulating both sides of the dialectic, to "set up" the problem, before the event which gets the reaction, so that they can then implement their solution.
It takes time to create the memes, indoctrinate the subconscious, and get the general population to accept the draconian tyrannical protocols without even a whimper. The elite have the dialectic so well groomed, so well refined, that we will beg for our own slavery and demand it!.
They know exactly what they are doing and how long it takes. They read the energy in the matrix to determine "when" to implement certain aspects. They have it down to a science.
The "elite controllers" are doing their best to control both sides of the dialectic. They are very powerful, yes, and not to be taken lightly, but they are not all powerful. They know what they are doing and have it down to a science -- yes, mostly, but they are also frightened and well aware what they are up against: The people, and ultimately the Infinite Self.
Some folks think that because the story about Snowden and PRIZM arose in the establishment media, that it must be controlled. I don't think so. The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald is the guy to go if you want to get the word out this kind of issue; the right guy at the right time, in my view, like Snowden.
In the same way that there are factions within government -- white hats and black hats, the media is a mixture of dark and light also. Even within the darkest recesses of the controllers world, there is light.
ghostrider
16th June 2013, 17:39
I see the government agencies farm out their responsibilites to private companies to avoid fall out on them, ehumm we didn't do that , it was that company that was supposed to be following quidelines ... humans want no responsibilty for their actions , it's always someone else's fault ...
sigma6
16th June 2013, 19:50
Here's Thrive's response (apologies if it's been posted already). Despite the ever growing cynicism many of us seem to be experiencing, (and recognising that as an effective method of neutralising anything and anyone that might make a difference), I really like Foster Gamble and don't mind standing up and saying so. I hope we don't dismiss the genuine philanthropist for fear of being 'had' by yet another stooge or con-man. No-one wants to be a fool, but the fear of being labelled one is what keeps many cowering in the dark. Until proven otherwise, Thrive seems to me to be an outstanding effort and Ed Snowden was simply heroic.
http://www.thrivemovement.com/if-you-had-edward-snowdens-proof-what-would-you-do.blog
Sometimes what you see really is what is.
The powers that be have created so much suspicion and distrust that when honest people try to make a difference--those they are endeavouring to help shoot them down.
There is a big difference between opinion and fact.
There is no real evidence that Snowden is anything other than the real deal--no evidence other than circumstantial that this is not a real whistle blower.
It all helps to raise public awareness.
All that can also apply to Thrive.
Chris
That's my point Greybeard exactly there is no real evidence on either side, identities can be faked, resumes can be faked, past histories can be massaged i.e. yes he has this unusal mix of NSA, military, special ops, but oh, he really was just a drop out in ALL of them... (therefore we are supposed to leap to the conclusion that he has real motivation to blow the whistle because he is a disgruntled employee... yawn...)
The weirdness of trotting out his ex girl friend hotty pole dancer, who takes perfect photo shots and "misses him" (I guess she can't find another boyfriend... come on guysssss!!!!) Is that supposed to be the "context on his personal background" or just another misdirection? Where is the family, friends, past high school and college mates...? zero nadda, nothing, All the stuff that exposed Obama so well. That stuff is a little harder to fake, and is completely and conspicuously absent here.... doesn't that strike everyone as a little strange...
It is sad when people try to use "sophisticated legal thinking" as their guide... "ie. there is NO PROOF that he is a fraud, therefore we have to assume he is innocent, maybe true, but even the courts DON'T use this logic, in case you haven't noticed, in Admiralty, Commercial contract law you are Guilty until proven innocent...(Yes that is literally!!!) When you go to court you got two choices "guilty" or "not guilty" ... which fools people into thinking that means "innocent" hahahaha... if you believe that, next time you go to court try stating when they give you those two options ... saying "innocent" guess what ... it won't be accepted (without a fight to prove you actually know how to exercise your "right") because you're not in a court where they automatically recognize your rights.
All that stuff about innocent until proven guilty is fed to you through television shows, and is based on something that although true is not taught in schools, available in any of the probate courts, it's just a great propaganda device for people who want to get their "education" from watching TV and Movies.
My point is, this is all AMBIGUOUS... and from my experience the MORE AMBIGUOUS it becomes the higher the probability it becomes that it is fraudulent. Ambiguity at the beginning is one thing, but continued straight down the line all the way to end ambiguity, is a delicate balance that has to be managed (it is no longer random) So I am not judging, not taking sides, but I am remaining skeptical. No 100% evidence, given the enormity of what is at stake, then I remain skeptical...
Then there are the questions, legitimate questions, which only builds more ambiguity.. the weird sound bites... like "Hong Kong is the bastion of "Free Speech" ??? WTH? doesn't make sense at all (Hong Kong is the bastion of World Commerce, Corporate Law, Contract Law, where MONEY rules.) But... it could make a nice "launch pad into China for someone trying to infiltrate...
Like the faked up war in Georgia, where the US and Israel tried to start WWIII on Aug 8/2008. That was exposed by David Wilcock, and confirmed by Winston Shrout (LA Seminar 2007, last CD) The US alphabet guys sometimes snort way too much "confidence" powder and think they can pull off anything anywhere...
But if you look at the history... for example the expose of the Nixon NASA moon landing cover up in "Darkside of the Moon" the Vietnamese were saying the US guys coming over pretending to be locals were a "joke" NO ONE believed them... When they were pretending to be "military advisors" in Georgia, Russia saw it YEARS in advance... And I can assure you China having been screwed over by the West for the last 200 years, is not blind to what this guy MAY or MAY NOT be...
There is NOT enough info and time running on this to call it anything, but right now from where I am standing .... I don't see anything...
in the spirit of Socrates "I know nothing" would be appropo..,
sigma6
16th June 2013, 19:59
if you expose what they are doing , your considered a traitor... if you walk all over the fourth amendment thats okay... ??? treason is breaking the sacred articles of the constitution and the bill of RIGHTS ...
That part is all good, but where's the beef... I don't see where this is going... what is being accomplished, maybe this is news for mainstream? or is this just a coming out party for the absolute idiots in the MSM that actually need everything explained to them like a bedtime story...
I guy admits he works for a surveillance company in the US and is part of a Big Brother Spy Operation... and spills the beans on info that has already been known for 15 years then decides he wants live and hang out in Asia... and turns down Icelands no strings attached, 100% guarantee of protection from Extradition... I would do the math... but I am missing too many variables to compute anything... so far all we got is PR and media hype. No substance...
Tell us something we don't know...
I do like that he has caused all this IRE on so many public figures we can't stand but haven't we seen this storyline in the movies... and if so, then shouldn't we all be waiting for the denoument, or the final act, or perhaps we should all be watching another movie... ?
... still waiting...
T Smith
16th June 2013, 21:39
It's appalling to hear the Washington bureaucrats and their media allies trash Edward Snowden as a traitor, when it's our leaders and the NSA who have betrayed us, writes Kirsten Powers.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/14/the-sickening-snowden-backlash.html
Speaker John Boehner called Snowden a "traitor."
Senator Dianne Feinstein calls the leaks "an act of treason."
Washington Post columnist Rich Cohen smears Snowden as a "cross-dressing Little Red Riding Hood."
New York Times's David Brooks laments that Snowden was too "individualistic."
The New Yorker's Jeffrey Toobin wrote that Snowden is "a grandiose narcissist who deserves to be in prison."
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell complained about Snowden’s naiveté and “maturity level.”
Politico’s Roger Simon called Snowden “the slacker who came in from the cold,” with “all the qualifications to become a grocery bagger.”
On Wednesday's Late Show With David Letterman, Tom Brokaw dismissed Snowden as "a high school dropout who is a military washout."
On Tuesday, Sen. Susan Collins, mocked the 29-year-old man as “a high school drop-out who had little maturity [and] had not successfully completed anything he had undertaken."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/14/the-sickening-snowden-backlash.html
Former CIA Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash said Snowden is “very dangerous” and “delusional.”
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/former-cia-chief-staff-snowden-delusional-could-aiding-111926012.html
FYI...
"... The chosen ones have decided he [Snowden] must go! They are going to make it impossible for him to move from where he now is. Sorry but he is already on death row. They will do character assassination before they take him down. "
A Source of Kerry Cassidy's ( Kerry's paraphrasing)
http://projectcamelotportal.com/home/kerrys-blog/1738-edward-snowden-whistleblower
I echo your sentiments 110%, but this backlash really should not be surprising to anyone. The Ministry of Truth is only doing its job, i.e., the sources cited above represent the PTB, not the people. I haven't read any of the articles mentioned, nor will I. Why give credence or readership to propaganda whose objective is to herd public opinion accordingly?
sigma6
19th June 2013, 20:29
CISPA Will Legalize PRISM Spy Program
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/cispa-will-legalize-prism-spy-program.html
As simple as that... well now... how you do like them apples?
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