Boy films strange creature - Reptilian?

[naste.de.lumina]

I do not think it is a fraud, the question is what would this creature?
Draco Reptilian?

krRtZK-3rSA

P.S.: Nobody in the house knew the creature, only to watch the filming.

[Chip]

I've seen this before and wish I could watch with an interpreter.
I see a close up of a mans back zoomed in and blurred then the creatures image. My understanding is that this creature was next to this man and was not viewable except by camera?
Some help por favor?

[naste.de.lumina]

I've seen this before and wish I could watch with an interpreter.
I see a close up of a mans back zoomed in and blurred then the creatures image. My understanding is that this creature was next to this man and was not viewable except by camera?
Some help por favor?

Exactly my friend.
Basically.
No one in the room noticed the creature's presence.
The boy was shooting his father on the computer, then turned the phone back to his own face and finished recording.
Only to watch the movie they realized that there was the presence of this figure.
They were surprised, with fear and have no idea what it is.
Think that may be the spirit of someone who was buried under the house.
Are simple and humble people, not spoke in reptilians.

[Flash]

They also say they were used to hear steps around, but never saw anything like this. The whole place (neighbours) is surprised by this picture.

[Lifebringer]

I think they aught to stop tatting symbols they have "no" understanding of. Like all the skulls on the clothing these days. Like they are celebrating death or something programmed to not be shocked at skulls? The tattoo on his father's left shoulder was of a pyramid and Sun over it. Don't know what the people back then knew, but mighty funny there isn't a trace of them today, and still a mystery. Perhaps the boy stumbled on something that's been there a long time and because of the energy coming in, is only now in our technology to see these things. I asked my daughter who had gotten a little on the wild side one day, why she was wearing a belt with skulls on it? She replied, it was just to have something to match the 'grey color of a blouse she had on. I asked her if she knew what those symbols mean? She said no, so I did a little bit of research, some of it has to do with nwosymbolicism. So I told her about it, and now she doesn't wear it. She threw it away because, "they've caused enough problems in people's lives.":peace:

Don't know, but I used to drink a certain tea on the shelves and buy a certain airfreshner for the car, until I found it was Klan made. Lost my taste for it after that. Sometimes the sweets just aren't worth the whole picture of the intent of the producers. I would be supporting hate of other HUMAN beings. I think my hard earned due to unequal pay, would be much better spent on a box of tea and limes.

Gotta take stands on things like that, and look at the big picture at all times. In other words, follow that thought all the way through before action, not step by step reactionary.

If that was the Universal Creator's way, America would have been smacked a long time ago, just by the actions of Republican and BlueDog Dem Presidents of Corporate Influence.

We've been out to boot these corporate people turncoats out. They go on both sides of the isle, and sabotage everything for the people, and cheerleading more tax cuts for the rich.

2014, not a critter to be seen.

Vote them corpcritters out!

They use our differences like a commercial played in their media of ill-intent, not truth.
WE watch the news for truthful information, anything else, is just ego.

[Rosieposie]

Gee I bet putting those kids to bed at night just got a whole lot more challenging lol probably benign, other than looking odd it looks more curious than anything, it even has a shadow which cuts out being anything other than physical.

[Lifebringer]

That's what I thought when I watched Rosie. Probably no more responsible for his looks than you or I at birth. Maybe that's why they choose to incarnate, and who knows, to look at us from their side, we might look like that to them.

I felt a certain curiosity, and inquisitiveness from the look in the eyes. NOT evil, just curiosity.

[Sunny-side-up]

Very creepy stuff, it's talking right? you can see lips and a bit of cheek moving. Sort of looks like it's almost whispering something in the dads ear, get the internal feeling of coaxing. At the point where you can see the head/face what is it's shadow projected onto, looks like 2 vertical forearms.

[patiguti]

Well I have to say That this being looks familiar to me. I lived in Mali, Africa for severals years. M'y husband and me were working for Health projects. It's a long story but the point is that we discovered fraude in the projects. People were stealing money.

After this discovery, we began to feel srange things around us....our dog was completly aware of the situation, better than us. Several times we felt that someone was breathing in our back...directly to our neck....it was horrible....it was evil....and had the face of the film. We felt this several times and separetly.

Afterwards, before we leave the country, someone told us that we were bewitched. That someone did voodoo to us.

my conclusion is that this evil beings do exist and they need our fear energy to live. we are like cattle...they need our energy to live. And in the otherhand i feel pitiy for them, because they are not free, they depend on us to live.

But they are real. No doubt to me.
Please sorry for my english
Patricia

[Sidney]

One word came to mind when I saw it. ZOMBIE seriously. Looks like a zombie. weird

[InCiDeR]

They are all around us all the time, however this chosen 3D-vehicle lack the senses to observe them.. that's all. ;)

[naste.de.lumina]

One word came to mind when I saw it. ZOMBIE seriously. Looks like a zombie. weird

Okay, let's try to establish some point here.

According to the dictionary http://www.significados.com.br/zumbi/
'Zombie is the body of a dead person, but it looks like it's alive. The zombie usually has an evil spirit, and acts through supernatural forces, the same that brought him back from the dead. The zombies originated in voodoo beliefs, which for them were employees zombies controlled by a sorcerer. '

Nobody saw the creature unless the video. So it is not a body of a dead man back to life. It is some kind of energy, which leads me to suspect an entity with different dimensional frequencies of ours.

But we have to take into account that the descriptions of dictionaries and people who have had experiences with these entities that they call the Zumbie is due to the simple fact they do not know the name and the concept of dimension.

Either way this energy shaped body or body part of a well defined, because it had the ability to cause a shadow that can be seen clearly in the bottom wall.
I may be wrong too.

[Sidney]

So they did not see it with the naked eye? Ok I didn't get that part. I don't understand spanish. That is weird!!

[naste.de.lumina]

They are all around us all the time, however this chosen 3D-vehicle lack the senses to observe them.. that's all. ;)

Your description seems more like PRISM, NSA, CIA, etc. Zombie.:spy:

[naste.de.lumina]

So they did not see it with the naked eye? Ok I didn't get that part. I don't understand spanish. That is weird!!

Yes.
Basically.
No one in the room noticed the creature's presence.
The boy was shooting his father on the computer, then turned the phone back to his own face and finished recording.
Only to watch the movie they realized that there was the presence of this figure.
They were surprised, with fear and have no idea what it is.
Think that may be the spirit of someone who was buried under the house.
and


Posted by Flash (here)
They also say they were used to hear steps around, but never saw anything like this. The whole place (neighbours) is surprised by this picture.

[Sidney]

So they did not see it with the naked eye? Ok I didn't get that part. I don't understand spanish. That is weird!!

Yes.
Basically.
No one in the room noticed the creature's presence.
The boy was shooting his father on the computer, then turned the phone back to his own face and finished recording.
Only to watch the movie they realized that there was the presence of this figure.
They were surprised, with fear and have no idea what it is.
Think that may be the spirit of someone who was buried under the house.
and


Posted by Flash (here)
They also say they were used to hear steps around, but never saw anything like this. The whole place (neighbours) is surprised by this picture.

Well IMO, if its been hanging around for a while, if it has not hurt anyone, it probably has no intentions of doing so. It actually, upon a second viewing, looks rather sad and lonely. : ( I cannot tell exactly what is he/it standing next to?
I also find it interesting that it has manifested itself enough to cast a shadow on the object beside it.

Next time I hear a bump in the night, i may not ignore it so fast. HAHA

[Sunny-side-up]

People in the room not seeing the being/creature or it's shadow is no problem, I believe hypnotism or something like that could account for that! but would not stop the camera from filming it!

[Daughter of Time]

The boy said there have always been strange, unexplained sounds in the house, but they'd never seen anything unusual until this recording.

I'd venture to say that it's not a reptilian, but maybe some other kind of ET, or a disembodied being that's trapped in that house.

[Nick Matkin]

Well, whatever it was cast a shadow. Could it not just be someone with a rubber mask?

[seehas]

Well, whatever it was cast a shadow. Could it not just be someone with a rubber mask?

i have to reply with a realy creepy video collection "sorry"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPIC5ABplg0, some of these beeings reminded me on the one the boy filmed special the last one.

realy slim unhealthy looking humanoid beeing, they look skinny or even like a junkie they could be addicted to our emotions like a drug addict to heroin.

[Daughter of Time]

Well, whatever it was cast a shadow. Could it not just be someone with a rubber mask?

Someone with a rubber mask would be visible to the naked eye. This being has been visible only on the cell phone recording.

These people don't seem like the kind that would do this for a hoax. As someone is who fluent in Spanish, I could tell the mom is a very simple woman who probably wouldn't be up to that sort of thing just to get attention and she said she is rather scared.

[Nick Matkin]

Someone with a rubber mask would be visible to the naked eye. This being has been visible only on the cell phone recording.


We don't know it wasn't visible at the time. They just said they didn't see it until they saw the recording. That's what I'd say if I wanted to release a 'scary' video.

And just because someone is perceived as 'simple' does not mean they couldn't hoax anything, or have people around them that could - whether they knew about it or not.

Of course it could be a creature from another dimension, or could be just someone mucking about in a mask...

[Sierra]

The first video looked like a tall Grey to me ... he did not seem negative or hostile to me. Fascinating that you can only see him with camera, sort of like Kirlian photography?

Seehas's collection wow! I wonder if we are starting to enroach on their territory, and they have no place left to go? They look nocturnal. Shy. And expect to be unseen...

Now that tail whipping around in the underground tunnel ... gave me an atavistic shudder.

[naste.de.lumina]

Someone with a rubber mask would be visible to the naked eye. This being has been visible only on the cell phone recording.


We don't know it wasn't visible at the time. They just said they didn't see it until they saw the recording. That's what I'd say if I wanted to release a 'scary' video.

And just because someone is perceived as 'simple' does not mean they couldn't hoax anything, or have people around them could - whether they knew about it or not.

Of course it could be a creature from another dimension, or could be just someone mucking about in a mask...

Well, I do not think it's a mask.
There seems to be many similarities with the entities of the video posted by friend seehas. Mainly coloring and grotesque appearance.
The more we discover the more we realize that we know nothing.

iPIC5ABplg0

[Camilo]

The guy who spoke last in the video, said that they have in the house the bones of a deceased person and indicated that perhaps that could be the cause of it, whatever it is.

[Sérénité]

I can't help but ponder after seeing things like this-
are they invading our dimension, or are we invading there's?
and are they as confused about us as we are of them?

Do they have their own version of Avalon to seek answers as we do I wonder?!

[MadMax1]

Spirits are around us they just live in a light spectrum we can not see with our eyes quite often they can be captured on film using low lux and UV and full spectrum cameras, they have to build up energy to make themselves visible in a light spectrum that we can see. Some spirits have stronger energy then others and they are the ones that can appear as a full bodied apperition. I have looked into this topic quite a bit and you just have to remember most spirits will not harm you there intention is usually just to let you know they are there, you have to remember they use to be somebody that most likely lived there had a job and a family and liked the place enough to stay or go back to a place after they passed on.

[ghostrider]

the language of the cosmos is symbols, that symbol on the fathers back , could be what ties him to the family ... spanish people are humble and not prone to hoaxing, it's not in their nature ...

[Roisin]

I do not think it is a fraud, the question is what would this creature?
Draco Reptilian?

krRtZK-3rSA

P.S.: Nobody in the house knew the creature, only to watch the filming.

This is my first time back to this forum since last thursday or friday and am now seeing this video and thread for the first time but I just want to say that the being in this video looks VERY real to me.
I've seen this kind of being myself and I classify them as Reptilian. Their skin has a mucous membrane quality to it in addition to looking scaly too. The skin is also partly transparent where blood veins are showing through it.
The skin is also whitish (albino Reptilian?) and one of the ones that I saw had those same kind of lines on its face like the one in this video.
It's teeth are not showing here but they are very pointy and spiky.
The eye's of this being match up to how they photograph.
They may show up in a photograph or video recording even though they were not seen at the time when the photo or video was recorded. That's what it sounds like happened in this particular case too.

Below is a screenshot of that being seen in this video and below that is a photographic image I captured of a somewhat similar looking being that showed up only on playback. I captured it via webcam. Yes, it's a poor image and it is what it is but notice the similarity of that being's eyes and the one seen in that video. There are different variations of them.

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/Capturehvhgj.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/Capturehvhgj.jpg.html)

There will be those who will have problems accepting that these images are Reptilians because they do not match up to their own personal expectations of what they think they should look like. But when they show up photographically, their eyes turn up looking blank as seen in that video and my image (showing a negative of my image too).
But when looking at them in real time, their eyes are glowing however, for some reason, that does not translate photographically.

It has to do with their transdimensionality. There are electromagnetic effects that interfere with the processing of video recordings or photographic images of them. So what we end up seeing photographically is a different, in a few ways,than how they look when viewing them with your own two eyes or when they show up in your mind's eye in 3D.

[naste.de.lumina]

This is my first time back to this forum since last thursday or friday and am now seeing this video and thread for the first time but I just want to say that the being in this video looks VERY real to me.
I've seen this kind of being myself and I classify them as Reptilian. Their skin has a mucous membrane quality to it in addition to looking scaly too. The skin is also partly transparent where blood veins are showing through it.
The skin is also whitish (albino Reptilian?) and one of the ones that I saw had those lines running down the lower cheek area as seen in that video.
It's teeth are not showing here but they are very pointy and spiky.
The eye's of this being match up to how they photograph.
They may show up at any in a photograph or video recording regardless where they are only seen on playback. That's what it sounds like happened in this particular case too.

Below is a screenshot of that being seen in this video and below that is a photographic image I captured of a somewhat similar looking being that showed up only on playback. I captured it via webcam. Yes, it's a poor image and it is what it is but notice the similarity of that being's eyes and the one seen in that video. There are different variations of them.

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/Capturehvhgj.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/Capturehvhgj.jpg.html)

There will be those who will have problems accepting that these images are Reptilians but sorry to say this but this is how they photograph... their eyes turn up looking blank as seen in that video and my image (showing a negative of my image too).
But when looking at them be it 2D or 3D, their eyes are glowing but for some reason, that does not translate photographically.

Also, due to their transdimensionality, there are electromagnetic effects that interfere with the processing of video recordings or photographic images of them. So what we end up seeing photographically is a different, in a few ways,than how they look when viewing them with your own two eyes or when they show up in your mind's eye in 3D and wonderful living color.

Impressive Roisin.
Yes, in describing the family perceives the entity only to watch the video.
And yes, the eyes are similar in the photos.
I also think it's reptilian.
Thanks you.

[seehas]

great picture rosin, i dont think they feel well knowing we see them as they are ;)

well at some point the game changes, maybe we can use this thread to collect some more videos/pictures that look pretty much the same.

[Roisin]

When I first saw that video, which was only a few minutes ago (could hardly type, ha,ha), I was so excited because the being is exactly like one that I saw that kept showing up in a recurring dream and then one time it showed up in 3D in my mind's eye view while meditating.... it just popped in, gave me a big Cheshire smile and then popped out again.

I think the one that I captured with my webcam that I am showing here is not exactly like that one I just described above but there are different versions of them, as we well know and thought I would show that image anyway because some of the features are not too unlike those seen in that being in that video.

[naste.de.lumina]

great picture rosin, i dont think they feel well knowing we see them as they are ;)

well at some point the game changes, maybe we can use this thread to collect some more videos/pictures that look pretty much the same.

I had seen those images that are in this video you posted.
But they were not together in one video.
And I know I've seen similar ones.
I'll have to give a sought to try to find them.
There was a channel that was marked in my favorites that contained lots of great images, but the user canceled the subscription or canceled for him (deleted).

[naste.de.lumina]

When I first saw that video, which was only a few minutes ago (could hardly type, ha,ha), I was so excited because the being is exactly like one that I saw that kept showing up in a recurring dream and then one time it showed up in 3D in my mind's eye view while meditating.... it just popped in, gave me a big Cheshire smile and then popped out again.

I think the one that I captured with my webcam that I am showing here is not exactly like that one I just described above but there are different versions of them, as we well know and thought I would show that image anyway because some of the features are not too unlike those seen in that being in that video.

It seems to me you deal with it quietly right?

[Roisin]

That image that I posted in this thread is not from that video that I posted in that other thread, btw. But I have posted some of my images and video's in a few forums in the past but, for the most part, only had them up temporarily. In the past, there have been those debunkers who would deface my photographic material and re-show them at other places on the net.
There is a very hostile group out there who pop into forums to debunk and henceforth suppress information like this. I am certain of it as I have been a victim of it. I believe they work for the govt. I know that sounds pretty off the wall but I have my own reasons that justify why I think this is so.
The closer you get to the truth, the more they will debunk you at every turn.

[naste.de.lumina]

Here a video. As I said, there are other types of aliens plus repeated images over the video sented by seehas, but also has some different.
I had not posted before because they are older and probably thought they had posted here in PA.

CxUQUbc7UF4

[Roisin]

When I first saw that video, which was only a few minutes ago (could hardly type, ha,ha), I was so excited because the being is exactly like one that I saw that kept showing up in a recurring dream and then one time it showed up in 3D in my mind's eye view while meditating.... it just popped in, gave me a big Cheshire smile and then popped out again.

I think the one that I captured with my webcam that I am showing here is not exactly like that one I just described above but there are different versions of them, as we well know and thought I would show that image anyway because some of the features are not too unlike those seen in that being in that video.

It seems to me you deal with it quietly right?

Most definitely as I have no choice in the matter anyways. Lol. I mean, only those who have had their own inexplicable experiences and encounters can relate to this kind of material. But then again, I've also run into experiencers who negate stuff like this because either it does not match up to what they saw or they have issues with those who are able to capture things photographically because they themselves have not been able to do that. So these are just a few of the issues that I have run into when posting any of my material.

[Roisin]

Here a video. As I said, there are other types of aliens plus repeated images over the video sented by seehas, but also has some different.
I had not posted before because they are older and probably thought they had posted here in PA.

CxUQUbc7UF4

Thanks for posting this.... am watching it now and will comment a little later on it... in this post.

[naste.de.lumina]

When I first saw that video, which was only a few minutes ago (could hardly type, ha,ha), I was so excited because the being is exactly like one that I saw that kept showing up in a recurring dream and then one time it showed up in 3D in my mind's eye view while meditating.... it just popped in, gave me a big Cheshire smile and then popped out again.

I think the one that I captured with my webcam that I am showing here is not exactly like that one I just described above but there are different versions of them, as we well know and thought I would show that image anyway because some of the features are not too unlike those seen in that being in that video.

It seems to me you deal with it quietly right?

Most definitely as I have no choice in the matter anyways. Lol. I mean, only those who have had their own inexplicable experiences and encounters can relate to this kind of material. But then again, I've also run into experiencers who negate stuff like this because either it does not match up to what they saw or they have issues with those who are able to capture things photographically because they themselves have not been able to do that. So these are just a few of the issues that I have run into when posting any of my material.

I understand you.
I had experience as well, but went with gray, and I do not like it one bit.

[Roisin]

great picture rosin, i dont think they feel well knowing we see them as they are ;)

well at some point the game changes, maybe we can use this thread to collect some more videos/pictures that look pretty much the same.

Here's one that posted a couple of weeks ago in another thread. I'm showing it here again because if you notice the eyes of the being in the photo below, it's the same kind of thing... they look bulbous and blank.
The being in the image below appears to have bigger nose than the one in that video and the being that's in that other photographic image I posted here. But as I said before, there are different kinds of them. At the time when I captured the photo below, with my webcam again, in this case I saw a very faint outline of 'something' standing there. It also looked plasma-like, if that makes sense. In any case, I knew something was there for other reasons too that I won't go into at this moment but was sitting at my computer desk and had that cam next to it so grabbed the cam and quickly took a snapshot of whatever was there. When I then viewed that image on my computer screen, I saw that partial face in it.

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/from_easter_sunday_movie.jpg (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/from_easter_sunday_movie.jpg.html)

[Roisin]

Someone with a rubber mask would be visible to the naked eye. This being has been visible only on the cell phone recording.


We don't know it wasn't visible at the time. They just said they didn't see it until they saw the recording. That's what I'd say if I wanted to release a 'scary' video.

And just because someone is perceived as 'simple' does not mean they couldn't hoax anything, or have people around them could - whether they knew about it or not.

Of course it could be a creature from another dimension, or could be just someone mucking about in a mask...

Well, I do not think it's a mask.
There seems to be many similarities with the entities of the video posted by friend seehas. Mainly coloring and grotesque appearance.
The more we discover the more we realize that we know nothing.

iPIC5ABplg0

I'm posting the information below because the word "MASK" came up..... that's actually a category of photographic images of entities we see quite often. I talked about that in another thread here last week where someone posted a video clip of a grey-like entity that was seen turning its head in it. The clip was recorded just minutes after that bombing incident occurred at the Boston Marathon.




Here a video. As I said, there are other types of aliens plus repeated images over the video sented by seehas, but also has some different.
I had not posted before because they are older and probably thought they had posted here in PA.

CxUQUbc7UF4


The first clip they show in this video is Stan Romanek's famous video of a grey that's bopped up in that window.
I think it's real for two reason's....
1) I have my own video of a grey that also bopped up from behind something, in this case, my leather recliner in my living room. In my video though, it also bopped back down again where we can see its profile showing from the side of the chair also.
So because of what appeared in my own video where the grey bopped up and down again and then we also see that 'bopping' thing going on in Romanek's video of a grey, this, to me, caused me to believe that his video is not a hoax and that it is real.

2) The grey seen in Romanek's video is one of those mask-like apparitions of greys that I've seen elsewhere in other photographs and footages of the same kind of being. They appear almost to look like cut-outs but in any case, because of that, they are in their own category. For whatever reason, that's just how they ended up being translated photographically. But back to Romanek's video... No doubt a hoaxer would instead insert a grey that looked more 'real' than the 'mask-like' grey that's seen in his video and this is another reason why I think it is authentic because, once again, that's just how it ended up looking in the footage... mask-like.

[Star Tsar]

As the father is on the computer could this even be the face of a Djinn only because I have heard some researchers link them to electricity/electrical devices.
I initially had the thought that it has something to do with his tattoo!
Not so sure about the second video anything that states its real before giving me the chance to judge for myself puts me off

Mr Romanek's clip made me chuckle :P

:behindsofa:

[Roisin]

Yes, Romanek's clip looks fake but once again, I think it's real. I gave my reasons on why that is. Any hoaxer would try to make the grey look more real by using a model or using cgi to make it look more realistic. But in Romanek's video, the grey looks so fake, it's got to be real. lol. It's just one of those images that fall into the 'mask-like' entity category... there are a number of those ones out there and his grey in that video is one of those kind. It has to do with how they were photographically processed due to electromagnetic effects in the environment having to do with the transdimensionality of the entity itself.
Yes, I know most people think that Romanek's clip is fake but I can't jump on the band wagon on that one... I think it's real.

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I posted the video below in another thread a few weeks ago. I give information on the background of this video of mine there http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59699-Hello--I-m-new-here-&p=683012&viewfull=1#post683012 but am showing a short section of it here where a large round head of a grey-like entity is seen bopping its head up and then down from behind the chair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpV-8WwuTso&feature=youtu.be

Here's the whole video and at the end of it, that large head of that grey bops back up again where we can also see a profile of its face on the side of the chair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxMpLzKbip0
There are other entities in this footage too but am now only talking about that bopping head behind that chair ... the chair was rocking back and forth and to and fro.

Here are some screenshots of that grey.

This one is from the very end of that movie clip that's showing its profile:
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/qwd.png (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/qwd.png.html)

Here's another one of the same screenshot.
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/headandprofile-2.gif (http://s932.photobucket.com/user/A99_x/media/headandprofile-2.gif.html)

I explain more about that video in another thread. Have to search for the URL of that page.

[Star Tsar]

Hey Roisin :heh: I didn't say I thought it looks fake just made me chuckle...

:lol:

[Roisin]

Hey Roisin :heh: I didn't say I thought it looks fake just made me chuckle...

:lol:

It makes me chuckle too! I agree! So does mine... Anyway, thanks for your clarification on that. :)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

One word came to mind when I saw it. ZOMBIE seriously. Looks like a zombie. weird

Yes me too

take your pic

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=monster+mask&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=sjTAUZziEYvHkQXA1YFg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=705


looks nothing like a Draco.

N

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we dont realise how many of these things are around us all the time. Observing us .. i see them from time to time , totally harmless.

N

[Roisin]

Sorry but I disagree with you on that. It may not look like a Reptilian to you but trust me, it's a Reptilian. I'm very sure about that. That kind seen in that video is very monstrous looking but after my own encounters of the same EXACT kind of entity, I was to find out in one of David Icke's books that it's an Albino Reptilian.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

there are thousands of types of reptilian species.

Dracos are but one. The ones i have seen do not look like the one in the kids video.

anyway i see these things weekly. its no surprise they are around wether the video is a hoax or not

N

[Roisin]

It's only a matter of time when they will start showing up in more video's and photographs. I have seen them manifest in full physical form so for this reason I'm not surprised to see that the one in that video apparently is in full density too, shadow included!

Also, I'm sure I have not see some of the ones that you have either. But once again, that one is a Rep. I rarely ever emphasize that I am correct about something especially on matters having to do with this kind of topic but am making an exception in this case because of my own experiences with that particular kind of entity. I know what I saw... not once but repeatedly in a very lucid recurring dream and then when it popped into my mind's eye view that one time while meditating. When you see something like this, you never forget it. When I saw it in that video for the first time this morning.... lol, well, you should have been here because I nearly fell off my chair!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

This is one type of Draco , except the wings are not very accurate. The ones i have seen have more carpus notches along the top ridge. Anywhere up to 4 on each side.

http://arcturi.com/images/draco.gif

I read up on Icke's reptilian agenda stuff and im sorry to say .. i think he's making a lot of it up.

i cant find any correlation between his reportage and my actual experiences.

N

[Roisin]

I've never seen a Draco and I fervently hope I never do!
As for David Icke's material, he's not making it up. But having said this, because of my own limited exposure to this type of being,(just seeing them does not mean that you know about them any more than what they look like) I have yet to have any experiences that would lead me to believe that there's any kind of human Reptilian bloodline and so on. For me to believe that such things are true, I would have to have tangible proof of it.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I've never seen a Draco and I fervently hope I never do!
As for David Icke's material, he's not making it up. But having said this, because of my own limited exposure to this type of being,(just seeing them does not mean that you know about them any more than what they look like) I have yet to have any experiences that would lead me to believe that there's any kind of human Reptilian bloodline and so on. For me to believe that such things are true, I would have to have tangible proof of it.

Whats wrong with Dracos ? i am part Draco and i have lots of friends that like me .

N

[Roisin]

That's interesting. That's something I would need to do some research on before I would be able to comment on it. Do you have a post here anywhere in this forum where you are giving us more information on that? I would love to read that over. thanks!

[Nick Matkin]

A stupid question perhaps, but do Reptilians, Dracos, Nordics, Greys, etc, really exist? I mean exist in the same sense as horses or crocodiles exist? I've seen horses and crocodiles close up, so I KNOW they exist. And anyone who believes they have seen E.T.s (or whatever they turn out to be) will of course say they exist too.

I'm just a bit surprised that so many people who haven't seen these beings unquestioningly assume that they are absolutely real. I expect someone will say I'm being too reductionist in my approach and these things do exist, but in some vague, other-worldly, alternative-dimensional way. Sighhhh...

My brother says he has very clearly seen a ghost/spirit on three occasions. He has no reason to lie, I just wish I'd been with him. Would I have experienced the same thing?

The point is, just because my brother says he knows he has seen a ghost, that does not mean I believe they exist.

Back on topic. This fuzzy clip where the entity appears for about one second has generated a lot of interest here. But I have not seen anyone suggesting the ORIGINAL video should be properly examined by video experts, or whether the family has any reason to fabricate this to get rehoused for example, or for some other nefarious reason. Or if they have a history of practical jokes.

It may be some unknown creature, I agree. But I'd be more likely to consider that explanation if it had been captured on a proper TV news crew's video, or leaked from police surveillance recording.

Project Avalon's motto is "...where science and spirituality meet."

I've not seen much science here.

Nick

[Bill Ryan]

Project Avalon's motto is "...where science and spirituality meet."

I've not seen much science here.

Nick

Hi, Nick!

Made me laugh. :)

I do understand what you mean, But, as I think you know, I have a background in the sciences, and the scientific method is quite important for me. I do stress this, in various ways, in a number of my posts -- e.g. about 'Nibiru', and much else, as I know you have seen.

---> Do, please, listen to this 20 minute audio, which was an impromptu capture, at a restaurant dining table, of David Icke and Jordan Maxwell exchanging accounts of experiences with reptilians that had been reported to them. The reports are fascinating, and are enough to give one significant pause. (Translation for non-English speakers: it makes one stop and think pretty hard.)

http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Project_Avalon_May_2010.mp3

Science starts with data, and data comes from observation. Eye-witness reports are data. One doesn't have to have a reptilian in a cage in a laboratory for one to start doing science! :)

[naste.de.lumina]

I can't help but ponder after seeing things like this-
are they invading our dimension, or are we invading there's?
and are they as confused about us as we are of them?

Do they have their own version of Avalon to seek answers as we do I wonder?!

You really touched a point here.
Our perception of the dimensions is being modified.
Perhaps confused to realize a change in us.

[naste.de.lumina]

Hey Roisin :heh: I didn't say I thought it looks fake just made me chuckle...

:lol:

It makes me chuckle too! I agree! So does mine... Anyway, thanks for your clarification on that. :)

The question is: Relaxed or nervous laugh? lol...

[Peace of Mind]

Looks like a puppet, a rubber mask, the face texture is too stiff, and there is no moment in any of the wrinkles as it moves forward. FAKE. I’ve seen a few of these in my life time. Also, I doubt a dimensional being (that can only be filmed on camera) will cast a shadow because that will require light (from our dimension.) Plus, just after the camera was moved from the child’s face you can clearly see the footage was edited, which then leads to some footage of an puppet in the doorway, I’m wondering why would the child keep the camera cell phone facing the doorway during that time…perfectly catching the puppets image for a brief shocking experience.

I remember 2 separate occasions’ people posting this vid http://youtu.be/kYoviWINFSc in this forum a while back. Just about everyone was thinking it was an angel. Just because it was the holidays the news channel did a splendid job in adding extra hype to the story, the news is famous for its propaganda tactics, and people most times will eat it up. IMO, the image seen in this vid was a reflection of the florescent lights on the ceiling, but giving the way the media shifts your thinking many people will be oblivious to it. It’s painfully obvious to me and to this day people still watch that vid thinking it was an angel because the “News” said so.

People who are enthralled in this sought of stuff will open themselves up to believing and seeing things that are not really there, the conditioning seems to be picking up steam lately.There is nothing in any of these vids that will convince me of their authenticity, kids make prank vids like this and put them on the net all the time. Years and years pass yet all footage of ET and ED can be done with toys and animation software. Not one person has yet to show good footage, its always some half obscure image where the camera happens to be perfectly placed to capture their exclusive moments. haha

I’m really surprise that so many people fall for these tricks. Perhaps it’s because most people don’t get to see how Hollywood films, video games, and animations are done. I wouldn’t worry about this extremely vague and suspicious footage at all; you should be more concern with anyone promoting this as something that is really important. Think about it.

Be careful folks, this sought of propaganda can be a lethal trick-nology. To believe any of this, especially in the state it’s being presented is a sign of gullibility. There is nothing of importance here, if so it would be great for someone to point it out.

Oh, and if you’re wondering about the great acting job... then you might want to watch this mockumentary? Alien Abduction: The McPherson Tape (1998)
youtube.com/watch?v=mUgRCPKP1jg


when you finish with that and still craze for more supernatural phenom “The Blair Witch Project” and “Clover Field” may be some other titles to look into.

Enjoy

Peace

[naste.de.lumina]

A stupid question perhaps, but do Reptilians, Dracos, Nordics, Greys, etc, really exist? I mean exist in the same sense as horses or crocodiles exist? I've seen horses and crocodiles close up, so I KNOW they exist. And anyone who believes they have seen E.T.s (or whatever they turn out to be) will of course say they exist too.

I'm just a bit surprised that so many people who haven't seen these beings unquestioningly assume that they are absolutely real. I expect someone will say I'm being too reductionist in my approach and these things do exist, but in some vague, other-worldly, alternative-dimensional way. Sighhhh...

My brother says he has very clearly seen a ghost/spirit on three occasions. He has no reason to lie, I just wish I'd been with him. Would I have experienced the same thing?

The point is, just because my brother says he knows he has seen a ghost, that does not mean I believe they exist.

Back on topic. This fuzzy clip where the entity appears for about one second has generated a lot of interest here. But I have not seen anyone suggesting the ORIGINAL video should be properly examined by video experts, or whether the family has any reason to fabricate this to get rehoused for example, or for some other nefarious reason. Or if they have a history of practical jokes.

It may be some unknown creature, I agree. But I'd be more likely to consider that explanation if it had been captured on a proper TV news crew's video, or leaked from police surveillance recording.

Project Avalon's motto is "...where science and spirituality meet."

I've not seen much science here.

Nick

I respect your opinion as well as the respect of other members.
As for your brother have seen spirits (energies from other dimensions) you can not see, I'll tell you the following:
Your brother can see why the software perception of it is different than yours.
To put science officer in this trial you would find people willing to put their reputation at stake because the cabal determined that this matter should be relegated to the ridiculous. Why?
Official science is 98% theory which are changing daily, with a tendency to lie by huge interests.
This is my point of view.
Thank you for your cooperation.

[naste.de.lumina]

Looks like a puppet, a rubber mask, the face texture is too stiff, and there is no moment in any of the wrinkles as it moves forward. FAKE. I’ve seen a few of these in my life time. Also, I doubt a dimensional being (that can only be filmed on camera) will cast a shadow because that will require light (from our dimension.) Plus, just after the camera was moved from the child’s face you can clearly see the footage was edited, which then leads to some footage of an puppet in the doorway, I’m wondering why would the child keep the camera cell phone facing the doorway during that time…perfectly catching the puppets image for a brief shocking experience.

I remember 2 separate occasions’ people posting this vid http://youtu.be/kYoviWINFSc in this forum a while back. Just about everyone was thinking it was an angel. Just because it was the holidays the news channel did a splendid job in adding extra hype to the story, the news is famous for its propaganda tactics, and people most times will eat it up. IMO, the image seen in this vid was a reflection of the florescent lights on the ceiling, but giving the way the media shifts your thinking many people will be oblivious to it. It’s painfully obvious to me and to this day people still watch that vid thinking it was an angel because the “News” said so.

People who are enthralled in this sought of stuff will open themselves up to believing and seeing things that are not really there, the conditioning seems to be picking up steam lately.There is nothing in any of these vids that will convince me of their authenticity, kids make prank vids like this and put them on the net all the time. Years and years pass yet all footage of ET and ED can be done with toys and animation software. Not one person has yet to show good footage, its always some half obscure image where the camera happens to be perfectly placed to capture their exclusive moments. haha

I’m really surprise that so many people fall for these tricks. Perhaps it’s because most people don’t get to see how Hollywood films, video games, and animations are done. I wouldn’t worry about this extremely vague and suspicious footage at all; you should be more concern with anyone promoting this as something that is really important. Think about it.

Be careful folks, this sought of propaganda can be a lethal trick-nology. To believe any of this, especially in the state it’s being presented is a sign of gullibility. There is nothing of importance here, if so it would be great for someone to point it out.

Oh, and if you’re wondering about the great acting job... then you might want to watch this mockumentary? Alien Abduction: The McPherson Tape (1998)
youtube.com/watch?v=mUgRCPKP1jg


when you finish with that and still craze for more supernatural phenom “The Blair Witch Project” and “Clover Field” may be some other titles to look into.

Enjoy

Peace

Maybe you're right. Maybe you're completely wrong.
Good luck

[naste.de.lumina]

Hey Roisin :heh: I didn't say I thought it looks fake just made me chuckle...

:lol:

It makes me chuckle too! I agree! So does mine... Anyway, thanks for your clarification on that. :)

I posted this video because it contains images of the creature were discussing.
The image of the gray came toast.
I have doubts about the gray in this video.
I had unpleasant experience with these little guys, so I have no doubts about the veracity of their existence.

[Nick Matkin]

Your brother can see why the software perception of it is different than yours.

Interesting...

Like me, my brother is an engineer (only better qualified!) and, if I understood you correctly, he said more or less the same thing: i.e. that his perception may be more 'loosely wired' than mine. We decided this means either that he really is able to see these things, or that his mind is more likely than mine to MISPERCEIVE unusual but conventional scenes. We don't know.

I have no idea whether I can see ghosts or not. But as far as I know I haven't seen any.

As for science, please don't knock it. Yes, it's produced atomic weapons. But also the internet and so much more besides.

(Thanks Bill for the MP3 link. I'll download it and listen while jogging!)

Nick

[naste.de.lumina]

Your brother can see why the software perception of it is different than yours.

Interesting...

Like me, my brother is an engineer (only better qualified!) and, if I understood you correctly, he said more or less the same thing: i.e. that his perception may be more 'loosely wired' than mine. We decided this means either that he really is able to see these things, or that his mind is more likely than mine to MISPERCEIVE unusual but conventional scenes. We don't know.

I have no idea whether I can see ghosts or not. But as far as I know I haven't seen any.

As for science, please don't knock it. Yes, it's produced atomic weapons. But also the internet and so much more besides.

(Thanks Bill for the MP3 link. I'll download it and listen while jogging!)

Nick

In this case perception has nothing to do with rational intelligence.
It has more to do with the soul and challenges the same in this incarnation, glands of the body (pineau, etc.) and chakras.
Regarding the science I do not want to stop her, only that it can be used for the development of the human and not as a weapon against humans potential.
Hug.

[Roisin]

Hey Roisin :heh: I didn't say I thought it looks fake just made me chuckle...

:lol:

It makes me chuckle too! I agree! So does mine... Anyway, thanks for your clarification on that. :)

The question is: Relaxed or nervous laugh? lol...

Nervous! --- and even though it's been almost seven years since that video was recorded, I still can't wrap my mind around it. It's scary and it's creepy; no question about that! But every once in awhile when I drag it back out again and analyze it, I always see something new in it that I didn't notice before. I know there's a message in there somewhere that's meant to be deciphered and one of these days I'm going to find out what that message is.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

That's interesting. That's something I would need to do some research on before I would be able to comment on it. Do you have a post here anywhere in this forum where you are giving us more information on that? I would love to read that over. thanks!

Yes Roisin , thank you for being comprehensive in your research. Here is a thread that started out about the holographic universe but ended up having questions asked about my back ground. there is some good back ground there.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57183-The-Holographic-Machine-Non-Factual-accounts-of-a-Hybrid-Humanoid.

Thank You

Naniu

[Roisin]

That's interesting. That's something I would need to do some research on before I would be able to comment on it. Do you have a post here anywhere in this forum where you are giving us more information on that? I would love to read that over. thanks!

Yes Roisin , thank you for being comprehensive in your research. Here is a thread that started out about the holographic universe but ended up having questions asked about my back ground. there is some good back ground there.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57183-The-Holographic-Machine-Non-Factual-accounts-of-a-Hybrid-Humanoid.

Thank You

Naniu

Thanks for the link and I'll read it over as soon as I get back from a short errand.
Earlier today I did read over some of your posts in this forum starting from when you first joined here and I see that you have gained the respect of quite a few members here at PA. That's good to know and I DID make note of it! ;)

Talk later!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Project Avalon's motto is "...where science and spirituality meet."

I've not seen much science here.

Nick



Hi, Nick!

Made me laugh. :)

I do understand what you mean, But, as I think you know, I have a background in the sciences, and the scientific method is quite important for me. I do stress this, in various ways, in a number of my posts -- e.g. about 'Nibiru', and much else, as I know you have seen.

---> Do, please, listen to this 20 minute audio, which was an impromptu capture, at a restaurant dining table, of David Icke and Jordan Maxwell exchanging accounts of experiences with reptilians that had been reported to them. The reports are fascinating, and are enough to give one significant pause. (Translation for non-English speakers: it makes one stop and think pretty hard.)

http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Project_Avalon_May_2010.mp3

Science starts with data, and data comes from observation. Eye-witness reports are data. One doesn't have to have a reptilian in a cage in a laboratory for one to start doing science! :)


Ok , thank you for the excerpt Bill. I think in listening to this , if we were to be neutral and dispassionate about the information. In hearing Jordans account of seeing the people in the field and being approached by a " Reptilian " and the " Reptilian " letting them go with a warning. And Jordan in 2 cases was interacted with reptilian influence was helped by them. ( correct me Bill if i interpreted that incorrectly )


In each case of these accounts which i believe to be credible, we see that no harm was done to the humanoids by the reptilians.

The base officer ( air force i believe ) was investigating reptilian works and could be considered prying into their business, hence why he has attracted that sort of reaction upon his family. I am not trying to condone anything here, just stating the facts as i heard them. Do you honestly think an interdimentional being , with the capability to appear anywhere at will was locked behind a door ? i am convinced that IF that creature wanted to harm that girl , he could have with ease at any time ! however he just scared the living %$#* out of her to get to the fahter who is prying into their business , gatrhering intel against them. Had this have been humanoid faction, imo, that girl would have suffered adifferent fait.

We can see that if these encounters were with humanoid secretive factions the people discovering them would perhaps have experienced a different outcome ?

what i see more than ever is this extreme predjudice against Reptilians, its bordering on racism.

Lets just pause for a moment and look at some cold hard facts.

Our governments want us exterminated or culled at least and put in a box of control mechanisms. We can agree on that yes ?

Our Governments do not like being gverned or controlled or even accountable by the public OR anything elce , can we agree on that ?

Our Governments have been inciting fear in the form of movie propoganda for the last 20 + years of Alien and Reptilian depictions of being " over taken " then our industrial military complex being victorious over the space invaders , we can agree on that yes ?

What does this start to tell you about the true essence of Reptilian agendas ?

I am a first hand experiencer. I am spiritually and scientifically minded. And i am of sound mind. All i see growing in the alternative media and spiritual groups is the following of the government agendas in making out that Reptilians to be the boogey man.

This is true retrospectively speaking, every time the government wants to take over or challenge a force that is against their agenda they go on a tyrade of disinformation to make the target seem like something we need to exterminate. THATS A COLD HARD PROVEN FACT OR THEIR MODUS OPERANDI , i doubt anybody can dispute this.

take this information and super impose it over the Reptilian reportage and we see a whole lot of poop being shovelled around to cover up the truth.

Reptilian species, of which there are many , in most cases have been un mercifully defomated and its to our detrement.

I truly like David Icke , very much, but he is twisting the reptilian agenda thing to his advantage. If i were at that table and heard these accounts , how could i possibly come up with reptilians are all bad and want to take over .. im sorry but im calling Bull S#!T. This i bvelieve is cashing in on a very emotional subject and its deplorable.

Do what you wish with this information. If you have a propensity to ingest dogma and live it then i have little hope for you.

Wake up people. The Reptilians have been around for millions of years before us, they dont want this planet.. they dont want to take over , they live interdimentionally for the sake of Zappa ( my god ) , dont you get it ? what do you need a planet for if you can surf the cosmos interdimentionally ? think !

how hard is it to take over a planet if you have highly advanced technology that could wipe us out in a heart beat ? think !

hmmm

Sorry for the rant , but someone has to be rational in pull the wool back to let you see the facts.


Naniu

[Freed Fox]

what i see more than ever is this extreme predjudice against Reptilians, its bordering on racism.

Our Governments have been inciting fear in the form of movie propoganda for the last 20 + years of Alien and Reptilian depictions of being " over taken " then our industrial military complex being victorious over the space invaders , we can agree on that yes ?

All i see growing in the alternative media and spiritual groups is the following of the government agendas in making out that Reptilians to be the boogey man.

Wake up people. The Reptilians have been around for millions of years before us, they dont want this planet.. they dont want to take over , they live interdimentionally for the sake of Zappa ( my god ) , dont you get it ? what do you need a planet for if you can surf the cosmos interdimentionally ? think !


I couldn't agree more, except Zappa isn't my god... :p


Our governments want us exterminated or culled at least and put in a box of control mechanisms. We can agree on that yes ?

Our Governments do not like being gverned or controlled or even accountable by the public OR anything elce , can we agree on that ?

This is true retrospectively speaking, every time the government wants to take over or challenge a force that is against their agenda they go on a tyrade of disinformation to make the target seem like something we need to exterminate. THATS A COLD HARD PROVEN FACT OR THEIR MODUS OPERANDI , i doubt anybody can dispute this.


Sadly, I can predict that many will 'refute' these points by saying that it is "Reptilian influence" which dictates these things, and without that (and DNA manipulation, and mind control, etc etc) we would all be perfect little angels living in harmony. It is denial of our imperfections and prejudice against what is foreign, non-human. That prejudice is built right into our language, and the reason I didn't use the term 'inhuman' is that it most often carries negative connotations.

If Reptilians were controlling us through manipulation and disinformation, they wouldn't allow so many hateful, paranoid, and defaming accounts as there are about their species. There is a certain cognitive dissonance at work here.

No disrespect to any who buy into these theories...and certainly not to those who have had encounters, but one should at least consider that there is a grey area. I don't judge all human beings on the acts of even a hundred psychopaths over the course of our history. I don't believe anyone here does. We should extend that courtesy to extra-terrestrials as well, and accept that no amount of anecdotal evidence is going to provide a complete picture of an entire species or set of species.

[MadMax1]

Here a video. As I said, there are other types of aliens plus repeated images over the video sented by seehas, but also has some different.
I had not posted before because they are older and probably thought they had posted here in PA.

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The footage from 9:23 to 9:40 i have seen before it was on a home security camera captured the same things, there was a show called fact or faked that actually examined the footage and tried to debunk it but could not. I think it was a home either in texas or new mexico where the camera above the front door captured two things exactly the same as in this footage walking across the front lawn. The home owner was mexican and he had a name for them but i can't remember what he called them though. So to see the exact same things in this video gave me goose bumps, i defintetly believe their are beings out there we do not know of even on our own planet as well as other planets.

[MadMax1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKsGoz1KykY

Iknow it's off topic of reptilians i just wanted to post this video of what i was talking about of that footage the man calls them nightcrawlers if you watch it from 3:50 it's the same thing as the video above.

[Sunny-side-up]

I do not think it is a fraud, the question is what would this creature?
Draco Reptilian?

krRtZK-3rSA

P.S.: Nobody in the house knew the creature, only to watch the filming.

I wish part of the film of with the being in was longer. watching it's mouth I can almost fell words! Maybe some one might have been able to lip read it, if it was speaking in a human dilect that is!

[Atlas]

it even has a shadow which cuts out being anything other than physical.


Well, whatever it was cast a shadow. Could it not just be someone with a rubber mask?

Yes, I concur. I'd bet it's a mask or a puppet.

http://www.elcomercio.com/pais/Plaza-Grande-Alfredo-Lagla-COMERCIO_ECMIMA20111230_0103_4.jpg

It's a tradition in Ecuador. They do it every year, they call it los monigotes de Guayaquil (http://www.elcomercio.com/quito/tradicion-fin_de_ano-monigote-Anos_Viejos-Quito_0_837516266.html) (where the video was shot).

http://www.andes.info.ec/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/monigotes_27_nov_13_5.jpg

Con sátira y alegría, ecuatorianos se preparan para incinerar al 'Año Viejo' (http://www.terra.com.ec/noticias/noticias/act2970023/con-satira-alegria-ecuatorianos-se-preparan-para-incinerar-al-ano-viejo.html)

http://www.andes.info.ec/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/monigotes_27_nov_13_6.jpg

Los ecuatorianos se preparan para recibir al Año Nuevo. (http://www.andes.info.ec/es/noticias/monigotes-gigantes-son-atractivo-turistico-anticipa-llegada-fin-ano.html)

http://www.terra.com.ec/addon/img/1cba01bmonigotes619x464p.jpg

http://fotos.lahora.com.ec/cache/4/4a/4a3/4a37/-20121228090343-4a37eb48dbcf892856ae942c1dcf3436.jpg