To See The Farm

[Fred Steeves]

So information is exploding out of every little nook and cranny these days. Remember the theme line of "The X Files" back in the 90's, "The truth is out there"? Well, it's not even "out there" any more, we can hardly take a step without bumping into it any more (If we're paying attention that is). Whether it be the truth about the manipulations of religion, government, science, education, medicine, etc. in the 5 senses, or revelations of who and what we really are in the beyond the 5 sense realm.

It's almost like some kind of an ancient symbiotic dance routine between the yin/yang forces of this universe. A certain balance must always be kept, and in this case as one side seeks total control, the other side seeks to shed some light on matters.

One of my ongoing surmisings is that this is part of an endless cycle, and is why we hear so much in ancient teachings and lore of "Golden Ages", "Dark Ages", and every "Age" in between. Sounds quite similar to reincarnation doesn't it? Thing is, I see a lot of people pining for an end to the reincarnation cycle, but not for the larger cycle reincarnation is deeply embedded in.

I'm willing to bet not many people wish for an end to physical incarnation during "Golden Ages", but in this realm of duality we cannot have it both ways. You want light, then you will also get dark, and vice versa. That's how it works.

So here we are yet again. The secrets are being revealed, and on a multitude of levels. Question is, what do we do with it? We can respond on a multitude of levels as well, and what we get will be in direct proportion to our response.

There's a saying I like a lot: "To see the farm is to leave it". If we don't actually *see* the farm, but instead seek to continually refashion it to fit our present understanding of a nice place to live, then we are still on the farm, and round and round we go.

Now "the farm" isn't necessarily a bad place to be, and *IMO* we've all chosen to visit it for some very profound reasons. Perhaps the farm game never ends, only our stay there does. Because there really is no time or space, it doesn't really matter how long we decide to stay and "play". Once the farm is actually seen for what it is though, there may not be a whole lot of reasons to stick around. We may well even leave it with gratitude for the experience, that's my hunch anyway.

Our present position in this grand cycle seems to be at one of those natural hopping off points so to speak, a time of revealing and opportunity for those who may be (finally) about ready to move on. The choice as always is up to the individual, and there are no "wrong" choices, only choices...

Cheers,
Fred

[william r sanford72]

is it selfish of me to wanna smash the reset button???my reset button.i look around me.feel around me.listen to the song...its saying we need you still.your work is not done....but i also hear something new.So NEW...that i can move on..i remember...i have a choice.im still wrapping my soul..spirit around this truth.humbled and i have found no words to express this.2 years ago i began having encounters.nightime daylight.still ongoing.on every leval.i first focused my att on the visitors but found myself making that second..something profound began to occur.i went inward.instead of trying to figure the visitors out and who or what they were and from where and why....i found myself...well i cant put it into words..it wasnt a download as it is called...i beg to differ...i began to remember..thats the only way i know to express it.2 years isolated out here. self isolation before i found avalon...the internet and others like me.this also set triggers off like lighting bolts...and iam in no hurry to leave...this is such a small stop on a much more profound journey of the soul...also on my way to the reset button i hope i can smash a few cosmic locks...maybe help on that leval to.i left the farm..i came back cause the farm still has need of me.

[donk]

Damn Fred, well said...I see what you did there, and was kicking around ideas on how to do it myself...now I don't have to. Especially with Willim responding first...cuz in some other thread he nailed a huge piece of the puzzle, something to the effect of "every piece of information is tainted these days"...so that a lot of decisions, while not "wrong" on a certain level, are not conducive to spreading light, living love...which is what I find to be the type of activity, purpose, whatever, that beings whom I can relate to seek to experience...

[Curt]

Fred, I like that line a lot...'to see the farm is to leave it.' I think that's true. For me, I've looked around the farm--have noticed the tractors, sheep and barns, but I haven't quite managed to leave just yet.

It may be that I haven't truly seen it, even for all my looking.

That's food for thought for myself and maybe some others, too.

Anyway, I know you and I both got a lot out of the following video, so I wanted to post it for others who might benefit from it as well. It uses the farm as an analogy for this thing we're all caught up in.

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[Fred Steeves]

something profound began to occur.i went inward.instead of trying to figure the visitors out and who or what they were and from where and why....i found myself...well i cant put it into words..it wasnt a download as it is called...i beg to differ...i began to remember..thats the only way i know to express it.

Going inward seems to be the key William, although even for true seekers it seems to be the avenue of last resort.



i came back cause the farm still has need of me.

Funny you mention this, because I almost added that aspect to the OP. Reminds me of the Bodhisattva vow, and I really do think there's something to that.


A Bodhisattva is one who, motivated by great compassion, has a spontaneous wish to attain Buddhahood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhahood) for the benefit of all sentient beings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentient_beings_(Buddhism)), and who becomes dedicated to their ultimat welfare. This compassionate intention is called bodhicitta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhicitta).
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I would think one couldn't help but be filled with incredible compassion for their fellow beings, once they acquire a true grasp of just how mighty and momentous their own struggle has been. Perhaps that's a good bit of the influence when one has exhausted every way out. They're like: "Psssst, have you tried going within yet?"



Especially with Willim responding first...cuz in some other thread he nailed a huge piece of the puzzle, something to the effect of "every piece of information is tainted these days"...so that a lot of decisions, while not "wrong" on a certain level, are not conducive to spreading light, living love...which is what I find to be the type of activity, purpose, whatever, that beings whom I can relate to seek to experience...

Maybe that's part of what we're doing here donk, to take the deep dive of separation from love. Maybe it's actually quite gratifying for a time, until we come to the desperate realization that we have also f****d ourselves in doing so.

Maybe that's one of the specialty items this place offers. Dive as deep into the dark water as you possibly can, and at a certain point it's going to hit you that you want nothing more than to make it back to the surface.

It certainly would make one appreciate the fresh air more than they ever dreamed, and would be a great motivator to help others up as well.

[Curt]

Maybe that's part of what we're doing here Curtis, to take the deep dive of separation from love. Maybe it's actually quite gratifying for a time, until we come to the desperate realization that we have also f****d ourselves in doing so.

Maybe that's one of the specialty items this place offers. Dive as deep into the dark water as you possibly can, and at a certain point it's going to hit you that you want nothing more than to make it back to the surface.

It certainly would make one appreciate the fresh air more than they ever dreamed, and would be a great motivator to help others up as well.

Well said.

I'm still not sure whether we can ever truly be free of the farm as long as we're alive on this planet.

And if, in fact, we can't be free here, the goal of getting out of dodge with lessons learned is the most important thing.

But, if there is a possibility to turn the farm itself into something totally new, and to achieve freedom here-- if that's what it's all about-- then that would be more interesting still.

Personally, I'd like see the latter.

I'd like to see hell turned into heaven. It would be the ultimate transformation and a great trick to witness.

[johnf]

Maybe that's part of what we're doing here Curtis, to take the deep dive of separation from love. Maybe it's actually quite gratifying for a time, until we come to the desperate realization that we have also f****d ourselves in doing so.

Maybe that's one of the specialty items this place offers. Dive as deep into the dark water as you possibly can, and at a certain point it's going to hit you that you want nothing more than to make it back to the surface.

It certainly would make one appreciate the fresh air more than they ever dreamed, and would be a great motivator to help others up as well.

Well said.

I'm still not sure whether we can ever truly be free of the farm as long as we're alive on this planet.

And if, in fact, we can't be free here, the goal of getting out of dodge with lessons learned is the most important thing.

But, if there is a possibility to turn the farm itself into something totally new, and to achieve freedom here-- if that's what it's all about-- then that would be more interesting still.

Personally, I'd like see the latter.

I'd like to see hell turned into heaven. It would be the ultimate transformation and a great trick to witness.

Nice and nice. Perhaps we can actually take some spiritualized version of our experience back to source as a Parents day gift.
In the meanwhile,
There are things to learn, things to teach, somewhere along the line we dissolve the line that seems to make those two
activities different things, as well as the teacher, and student as separate.
The idea that changing the farm is something that keeps us here is a fascinating business is it not.
What is the motivation to change it?
Is it to get a better place?
Is it to make a better place for others?
Is it to just learn and at the same time share the lesson?

Wish I knew these things.

jf

[Mike]

Maybe that's part of what we're doing here Curtis, to take the deep dive of separation from love. Maybe it's actually quite gratifying for a time, until we come to the desperate realization that we have also f****d ourselves in doing so.

Maybe that's one of the specialty items this place offers. Dive as deep into the dark water as you possibly can, and at a certain point it's going to hit you that you want nothing more than to make it back to the surface.

It certainly would make one appreciate the fresh air more than they ever dreamed, and would be a great motivator to help others up as well.

Well said.

I'm still not sure whether we can ever truly be free of the farm as long as we're alive on this planet.

And if, in fact, we can't be free here, the goal of getting out of dodge with lessons learned is the most important thing.

But, if there is a possibility to turn the farm itself into something totally new, and to achieve freedom here-- if that's what it's all about-- then that would be more interesting still.

Personally, I'd like see the latter.

I'd like to see hell turned into heaven. It would be the ultimate transformation and a great trick to witness.



remember how excited you were as a kid when the school year began? remember how excited you were when it was about to end? :)

that's how I see it gentlemen.

[Curt]

remember how excited you were as a kid when the school year began? remember how excited you were when it was about to end? :)

that's how I see it gentleman.

True dat. Welcome back to the funny farm, Chinaski. :cool:

[Observer1964]

Well the farm has its good moments and its bad moments i think.
But it is a farm, and once u realise what the goal of the farmer is then u may feel like leaving it.
But to end the farm we all have to leave it together.

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[Fred Steeves]

But to end the farm we all have to leave it together.


All alone, or in two's,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.

Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.

Roger Waters "Outside The Wall"

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[RUSirius]

"To see the farm" this accurately describes the challenge/transition of living within the confines of the global system and/while finding your unique way to really live your own life. I shared recently, that I had found an interest/business that I really enjoy, selling and fixing new and second hand construction tools, I love tools what can I say and I like selling quality stuff at a really affordable price. I had recently got some space, rent free in a store doing this. Also bringing in a "key duplicating machine" to cut a multitude of keys, not really high level thinking stuff, however this is one of many aspects of myself. Its nice interacting with the public (most people) talking about mutual interests and doing my best to voice my version of knowledge, things were/are doing good. Today however I walked away from this space, the business is a family business and is run by emotion and lots of it, and very little humility. To spare the details I'm a calm cool person, I mind my business, do my work, I'm kind to people, usually and in this business as many family business' you can get dragged in to peoples emotional disasters that have nothing to do with oneself. This is what happened, the broad version, bottom line its another persons/peoples problems that can dictate the future of me and my children, not my own and it is nothing that I can solve because it does not involve me, yet I am affected, tricky I know. Back to the point, starting to "stand on own two feet", things are going quite well, all the while pondering this "To see the farm" thread, which I do see and have for quite some time, yet playing on the farm still and this "comfort" and "groove" that just began, comes to an end. Ahhh! but it doesn't, I'm not scared, a little mentally dizzy from all the "game planning" in my head and feeling the after affects of what occurred but not scared one bit, its exciting to leave yet another farm, its crazy how many times the farm has changed in my life. In addition I posted on the recent thread about time acceleration that just this week, I seem to be missing about 4-5 hours of time one day, it was the fastest day in my known memory and it happened to my wife as well, it was very strange, and now its time to move off this farm that I've been on, its the same and not the same for most people I would imagine, I wonder what awaits, I'm excited.
Jeff

[donk]

Dang...time slips? I haven't been able to keep track of linear time since about aught-eight or so...so every day feels like that (or the other way around, like it is 3 days in one...wait, is it a weekday?) Anywho...now I gotta start paying more attention...if we're letting time slip...well, not sure what that means, but does not bode well for "normalcy" at the farm...can't even trust the roosters anymore!

[william r sanford72]

RUSirius..your excitement.cool.and donk...my roosters chase fox.it nuttin normal here.and iam blessed because of it.

[Fred Steeves]

its exciting to leave yet another farm, its crazy how many times the farm has changed in my life.


Hi Jeff. I can just hear a Master Yoda type saying while nodding: "Strong is the force in this one".

No farm can hold such ones for long, once their minds are made up that enough is enough that is.

[RUSirius]

its exciting to leave yet another farm, its crazy how many times the farm has changed in my life.


Hi Jeff. I can just hear a Master Yoda type saying while nodding: "Strong is the force in this one".

No farm can hold such ones for long, once their minds are made up that enough is enough that is.

Too funny Fred, I absolutely agree, what I'm asking myself now is, after this, does the farm end, or another one begin, I'm shooting for the first one.