Relationship Between Body pH and Disease

[RunningDeer]

My goal is to pass along the information and use it as a jump off place from, “The Health Wyze Report (http://healthwyze.org)”. Some subjects are: soy dangers, toxins in diapers, air fresheners, eliminating parasites, forbidden fruits, table salt, toxic tampons, bad oils, curing allergies, child drug experiments, green drinks, poisonous skin products, spray tanning, decaffeination info, Hepatitis B Scam, etc.

I’ve added snippets from some articles.

"The Relationship Between Body pH and Disease (and other facts you're not supposed to know) (http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/361-the-relationship-between-body-ph-and-disease-and-other-facts-youre-not-supposed-to-know.html)"

Recently, someone referenced that nuts were a good food source to alkalize the body. My macrobiotic books explain that nuts range from acid to alkaline. Also, this person uses baking soda to balance his/her pH. Below is a section from the pH Food Chart that demonstrates my understanding and another article about baking soda.


"PH Food Chart (http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/191-ph-food-chart.html)"


“Alkalizing the body is probably the best thing that a person can do to ensure good health and well being. There is a direct relationship between a person's pH and the oxygen content of his blood, and a tiny change in pH can have dramatic effects upon a person's oxygen intake. An alkaline body pH will prevent diseases, and will cure existing ones by exponentially boosting a body's oxygen intake. As a general rule, pathogens and cancers cannot survive in an oxygen-rich, alkaline environment.”


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Foods/nuts_zpsbc286cf8.JPG

This link is not included in the “The Health Wyze Report (http://healthwyze.org)”, but it's a link you may want to hav-a-look: “Benefits and Remedies Apple Cider Vinegar (http://www.apple-cider-vinegar-benefits.com/home-remedies.html)”


"Why You Should Use Apple Cider Vinegar Instead of Antacids and Baking Soda for Indigestion? (http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/221-why-you-should-use-apple-cider-vinegar-instead-of-antacids-and-baking-soda-for-indigestion.html)"


The Aftermath of Weak Stomach Acid, Antacids, or Baking Soda Use, ”Donna Gates, from bodyecology.com explained that, "There are two main consequences of low stomach acid:

1. You become protein malnourished.  When your stomach acid is low, you are not able to digest protein.  Improper digestion of protein creates toxins in your intestines that can set the stage for illness and disease.  Improper digestion of protein also creates acidic blood, since protein is by nature acidic. 
2. You become mineral deficient.  As your blood becomes more acidic, it will look for minerals from anywhere in your body, in order to get your blood to its more ideal alkaline state.  Acidic blood robs your body of minerals, even taking minerals from your bones (which is important to know if you want to prevent osteoporosis)....”

"...Here are some of the common symptoms and disorders caused by low stomach acid: Bloating, belching, and flatulence immediately after meals, heartburn (often thought to be caused by too much stomach acid), Indigestion, diarrhea, or constipation, undigested food in stools, acne, rectal itching, chronic candida, hair loss in women, multiple food allergies, iron deficiency, weak, peeling, or cracked fingernails, chronic fatigue, adrenal fatigue, dry skin, various autoimmune diseases".

[WhiteFeather]

If i may interject Paula.
Www.B17.com.au
A wonderful site containing a wealth of info on PH, B17 and more. Please give it a gander.
Great Thread you have posted here.
FWIW. I myself take a teaspoon of Baking soda once a week. Another way of adding PH to your alkaline body.

Be at 1

Vince

[RunningDeer]

If i may interject Paula.
Www.B17.com.au
A wonderful site containing a wealth of info on PH, B17 and more. Please give it a gander.
Great Thread you have posted here.
FWIW. I myself take a teaspoon of Baking soda once a week. Another way of adding PH to your alkaline body.

Be at 1

Vince

Thanks, Vince. I find myself becoming more reserved about passing along information. There are pro and cons to any topic. In the end, people gravitate to what works for them, until it no longer does. That’s freeing to finally “get it”.

A quote from “Ask Dr. Huber (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/27/baking-soda-natural-remedy.aspx)” sums it up, namely, one size does not fit all.

“...The question remains, why do some people find a need for it everyday while other apparent acid-gulpers seem fine?  Well that is a complex issue as there are no two people alike.

We come from different backgrounds and habits so where we are today is simply a reflection of that journey...”


............Going, going, gone.......................................... :car:

Peace,
Paula

[Mike]

Ive used all sorts of ph balancers, things such as 'cell food', 'oxygen elements max', 'oxy e' etc...

the seeming irony, of course, is that they are all so highly acidic.:)

for better or worse, I tend to take the aggressive approach when it comes to supplements. take 2 tablets with dinner? pah! i'll take 6...;)

sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. with weak, cheap herbal capsules it does. with ph balancing/oxygenating supps it doesn't. I woke up a few weeks back in the middle of the night and vomited up what I can only identify as *fire*. it literally sizzled. when it left my mouth and hit the carpet I fully expected to see the first floor of my house through the hole I imagined it must have made. through watery, blurry eyes I made my way to the fridge and uncapped a half gallon of whole milk, and quite literally bathed in it. in my panic I simply opened my mouth and dumped it on my face, with maybe a third of it making it into my stomach. the relief was borderline orgasmic.

ive got a whole new respect for the stuff.

note: of all these supps, oxy-e by far works the best (for me). it balances ph...and instead of simply flooding the bloodstream with oxygen, it actually has the ability to get the oxygen into the cells, where it really counts. but for the love of god, please take it slow)

[Octavusprime]

Although I feel your heart is in the right place I do feel I must object. There has been no correlation found that links blood ph to the PH of your food. Blood (body) PH is regulated by the body regardless of diet.

The PH of your food does effect your urine PH which can prevent things like kidney stones or urinary track infections.

In general an alkaline diet is healthier but this is due to the fact that most alkaline foods are better for you. Most veggies and whole grains are alkaline while things like meat are acidic.

So overall alkaline foods are healthier but less because of the PH and more because you are eating more fruits, veggies and whole grains.

I'm not an expert but I do keep well informed about dietary health. As with all things it is best to remain balanced and take everything in moderation. Except beer IMO!

Hope I didnt offend. Cheers!

[happyexpat]

Although I feel your heart is in the right place I do feel I must object. There has been no correlation found that links blood ph to the PH of your food. Blood (body) PH is regulated by the body regardless of diet.

I disagree wholeheartedly (not offended, just completely disagree), based on personal experience. I had a recurring health problem for most of my adult life. My problem was caused by my body being acidic, and was NOT related to the urinary system.

I took B17 (laetril), the absolute lowest dose... I believe it was like 50mg per day for about 4 months, and worked on having a more alkaline diet.

It's been over 6 years now, this problem has not come back once.

A family member had a bad mammogram, and I got her some B17. She took it for 90 days, and went back, and her lumps were gone.

There is loads and loads of information on cancer and other things only surviving in an acidic environment, and being treated with nothing other than an alkaline diet.

[RunningDeer]

In general an alkaline diet is healthier but this is due to the fact that most alkaline foods are better for you. Most veggies and whole grains are alkaline while things like meat are acidic.

So overall alkaline foods are healthier but less because of the PH and more because you are eating more fruits, veggies and whole grains.

As with all things it is best to remain balanced and take everything in moderation.

Hope I didnt offend. Cheers!

Hi Octavusprime,

No offense taken and thanks for your input. We are in agreement about everything in moderation.

I’ve add information to shed light on your comment that ’veggies and whole grains are alkaline’. See below for information that demonstrates a range in acid/alkaline foods including fruits, veggies and whole grains. Links are provided for larger chart viewing.

I’d add that an acid environment is a free invitation to create havoc in the body systems. The alkaline pH is better for over all wellness and youthful vigor.

Peace,
Paula


"Macrobiotic Food Chart (http://www.macrobioticcooking.com/6.html)" - i.e., fruits, veggies, grains...

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Foods/Yin_zpscbbd9807.JPG

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Foods/acid_grains_zps1ead1877.JPG


“Over-acidic: animal proteins vs. plant proteins (http://www.macrobioticcooking.com/Macrobiotic_diet.html)”

Animal proteins have all of the essential amino acids. However, besides the very controversial issues of how commercial animals are fed antibiotics and steroids, mass-produced under questionable conditions and environmentally inefficient as a food source, excess animal protein can cause the body to become over-acidic and commercially-grown meat is often high in saturated fats.  Over-acidity and saturated fats can contribute to health challenges. If you do choose to eat animal proteins, please balance the acidity with alkaline-producing foods and choose organic, grass-fed animals from a company that has a conscience about their farming methods.



Plant proteins have different combinations of amino acids which, when combined (i.e. grains and beans), complement each other and are considered 'complete' proteins.  These complementary proteins do not necessarily have to be combined at the same meal because the body stores amino acids and then draws upon these reserves/pools to make the protein complete.  [B]In excess, plant proteins can make the body over-acidic so they also need to be eaten in balance with alkaline-producing foods.


"Alkaline and Acid Food Combing Chart (http://www.harisingh.com/Dieterata2.htm)" (click link for larger chart)

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Foods/Acid-AlkalineFoods_zps70d4a605.JPG


Are You and Your Diet Too Acid? (http://www.fhsblog.com/?p=135) Link for information on, "Simple Steps to Alkalinize your Diet".

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Foods/Food-and-Chemical-Effects_zps0d4b64ad.JPG


[conk]

We have to ask what part of the body is in question. The blood must be at a pH of around 7.X. Any variation up or down, and not by much of a margin, and we are dead. So what are we making less acidic? The fluid in our cells?

[RunningDeer]

We have to ask what part of the body is in question. The blood must be at a pH of around 7.X. Any variation up or down, and not by much of a margin, and we are dead. So what are we making less acidic? The fluid in our cells?

Hi Conk,

I'm not qualified to answer your last question fluid vs. material. It's all the same to me...be good to my inner environment and I'm rewarded with youthful vitality, flexibility in mind and body, to name a few. Below is information on the pH range you asked about and it's potential grave effects.

“Food and Healing,” by: Annemarie Colbin

page 75

“...The pH of our blood plasma must remain at a constant between 7.35 and 7.45. The slightest deviation is either direction spells trouble. An acid pH of 6.95 results in diabetic coma and death, while an alkaline pH of 7.7 causes tetanic convulsions and eventual death. The more acid pH of the blood slows the heartbeat, whereas a more alkaline plasma speeds it up.

Clearly, maintaining the correct pH level of the blood is vital, and the body has several mechanisms to ensure its homeostatic balance...”

pages 77-79

Which is “better”, acid or alkaline? William Howard Hay, originator of the Hay Diet, which became popular in the 1930’s, suggested a ratio of 20 percent acid-forming to 80 percent alkalizing foods by volume. Arnold Ehret, more radical and an ardent proponent of raw foods, would have us eliminate all acid-forming foods from our diet, on the grounds that “the blood is alkaline,” yet acids are as much part of our metabolism as are alkaline substances; naturopath Paavo Airola states emphatically that our bodies need both kinds of foods. If we remember that opposites are complementary and necessary to each other, Dr. Airola’s statement makes perfect sense.

In what proportion, then, should acid-forming and alkalizing foods be consumed? As in all dietary matters the correct proportions in each meal will vary with each individual metabolism, the amount of physical activity, other foods eaten earlier, and possibly with the depth and speed of breathing (deep breathing alkalizes the system). Hay’s recommendation, for example - one part acid forming to four parts alkalizing - is appropriate for people who are physically very active (creating a lot of acid) and need to alkalize themselves. Less active people can handle more acid-forming food, perhaps one to two, or even one to one, at times.

How do we know why our acid-alkaline balance is off? Fortunately, we don’t need a degree in chemistry, or even a lab test (by the time an acid or alkaline imbalance shows up in a lab test, we’re in serious trouble). What we need to do is heed the small signs that our body gives us as it makes adjustments to keep itself balanced, and rectify an imbalance condition in time to avoid aggravating it.

It’s easier to become overacidic than it is to become over-alkaline. The foods we tend to gorge on are sweets, flour products, fats, and meats, all of which are acid-forming. When we become overacidic, we awaken with a sticky-sour taste in the mouth. To get rid of it, we almost automatically run for the coffee or the orange juice, both of which do indeed have an alkalizing effect. The sour taste in the mouth should be heeded as an alarm signal indicating that the body has an acid overload. Of this condition is not corrected by diet or deep breathing (preferably with exercise, because too much deep breathing alone could cause hyperventilation and overalkalinity), the acids will draw minerals out of the body’s own tissues, thereby creating a state of demineralization. Lack of sufficient minerals will first manifest itself in nervous or emotional imbalances, then perhaps in dental problems, broken nails, and eventually in a more serious weakening of the entire system.


A serious overalkaline condition can only result from hyperventilating or extended vomiting. Eating large amounts of fruits and vegetables, if we don’t balance them with grains or protein foods, can also cause a temporary alkaline excess; but this condition usually promptly remedied by the subconscious wisdom of our bodies, which sends us in a pendulum swing on a cooke binge. Many of my vegetarian students have reported going through just such an experience.


In is reassuring to know that we do indeed have such a subconscious guardian of our health, that our body always tries to return of its own accord to its correct from and balance....”

The author goes on to give examples of Western, Japanese, Italian and Yogic diets are in acid-alkaline balance.

Italian Diet: Acid - pasta, veal; Buffers - mild products; Alkaline - cooked tomatoes, garlic, zucchini, eggplant

Western Diet: Acid - sugar, flour, eggs, meat; Buffers - butter, milk, cheese; Alkaline - coffee, fruit, salad, potatoes, salt

Yogic Diet: Acid - honey, nuts, bread; Buffers - milk pro cuts; Alkaline - fruit, vegetables

Japanese Diet: Acid - rice, fish; Buffers - tofu, miso, soy sauce; Alkaline - scallions, diakon, burdock, sea vegetables

[realitycorrodes]

I often wonder how people can talk about blood ph and miss the body's MAIN system for regulating blood ph.
It seems if people new how the blood ph is regulated by breathing people might not believe it worth buying books on ph diets etc. Or getting sucked into another health fad. Sorry to be cynical. I am interested - but disappointed. If one cannot mention breathings role on blood ph, I think they must be uninformed to talk about blood ph.

Respiratory Control of Blood pH
http://www.hartnell.edu/faculty/shovde/chem23/Body%20Fluids/Respiratory%20control%20pH.htm

The respiratory system helps control the acidity of the blood

by regulating the elimination of CO2 and H2O.



These molecules are exhaled with every breath.



H2CO3 « H2O + CO2

carbonic acid



The brain is sensitive to blood CO2 levels and pH.



A significant increase in CO2 or decrease below pH 7.38 of arterial blood

- causes breathing to increase (in rate and depth)

- results in hyperventilation

- more CO2 is exhaled

- eliminates CO2 - reduces H2CO3 and H+ concentrations

- increases pH back to normal



A significant decrease in CO2 or increase in pH

- causes breathing to decrease

- results in hypoventilation

- less CO2 is exhaled

- increases CO2 - increases H2CO3 and H+ concentrations

- decreases pH back to normal



http://www.hartnell.edu/faculty/shovde/chem23/Body%20Fluids/Respiratory%20control%20pH.htm

[realitycorrodes]

Another thing that would be interesting to know easily by reading this thread without going to links would be:

How does the stomach create it's acid?
How does the body itself maintain it's stomach acid within a particular ph?

The body is a biofeedback system generally.

If one puts acid or alkaline into the stomach the body has it's own mechanisms for balancing out the equation.

This may be a dna setting for each individual which would not help many of us - as we don't seem to have access to fine tuning dna settings.

However, if we knew all the variables being used within the body from raw materials to the finished product e.g. stomach acid - then perhaps we may be able to see how to influence the original dna setting that sets our own bodies ph?

Just believing in doing one thing in order to balance out a multitude of biofeedback systems within the body just does not make sense to me. Everything is connected. If it seems too simple - maybe it is?

[WhiteFeather]

If i may add this . Fiji water contains a 7.8 ph level. This is good. Other waters such as Poland Spring are low in PH and are in the acidic range.

A list of Ph content in bottled water.

Water with a pH of 4.
Penta Water, Distilled Water, Purified Water, Aquafina (made by Pepsi), Dasani (made by Coke), Glaceau Fruit Water, Le Blue Water, Metro Mint Water, Pellegrino (made by Nestle), Perrier (made by Nestle), Smart Water, and Vitamin Water.

Water with a pH of 4.5.
Reverse Osmosis Water and Ice Age Glacial Water.

Water with a pH of 5.
Appalachian Springs Water and Poland Springs Water (made by Nestle)

Water with a pH of 5.5.
Crystal Springs Water, Dannon Spring Water, Pure American Water. All of the above bottled waters have an acidic ph, which does not support health waters.

Water with a pH of 7.
Arrowhead Water, Crystal Geyser Water, Deep Park Water (made by Nestle), Eldorado Springs Water, Supermarket Spring Water.

Water with a pH of 7.5.
Biota water, Fiji Water, Whole Foods 365 Water, Zephyrhills Water (made by Nestle)

Water with a pH of 7.9.
Eden Springs Water.

Water with a pH of 8.
Deep Rock Water, Evamore Water.

Water with a pH of 10
Filtered Ionized Alkaline Water you make with your own Water Ionizer. The advantage of ionized alkaline water is two fold.

Im not suprised that Coke and Pepsi sell bottled water in the acid low ph range. Poisoned Sodas and Poisoned water... IMO

[Octavusprime]

I think the confusion is the heading. When I read body PH I assume you mean blood PH. Diet will not change your blood PH.

Perhaps more clarification is needed. I will try and research this more.

[RunningDeer]

Another thing that would be interesting to know easily by reading this thread without going to links would be:

How does the stomach create it's acid?
How does the body itself maintain it's stomach acid within a particular ph?

The body is a biofeedback system generally.

If one puts acid or alkaline into the stomach the body has it's own mechanisms for balancing out the equation.

This may be a dna setting for each individual which would not help many of us - as we don't seem to have access to fine tuning dna settings.

However, if we knew all the variables being used within the body from raw materials to the finished product e.g. stomach acid - then perhaps we may be able to see how to influence the original dna setting that sets our own bodies ph?

Just believing in doing one thing in order to balance out a multitude of biofeedback systems within the body just does not make sense to me. Everything is connected. If it seems too simple - maybe it is?

Yes, keep it simple! Great post, realitycorrodes. I enjoyed your observation, questions, and points of view.

In terms of DNA, for me, it’s changing. So what’s most important? a) to know I don’t have all the answers, b) willingness to change what needs changing. How? I listen. I hook into the synchronicities.

I view supplements as therapeutic and not a daily affair. My beliefs and the body are it’s healer. When I do take vitamins/minerals, no matter how natural or costly, my system reacts within hours.

My belief system, i.e., mind program says that the body has to work hard at converting the supplements through the systems. Energy which could have been used for continued health.

I understand that ‘one size does not fit all’. I live in the country, so I don’t have pollutants and chemtrails like many folks. And Tai Chi since 1988, provides oxygen, flexibility and continued health. For those that may not know, Tai Chi is a moving meditation. So with each movement there's one continuos, slow inhale and exhale. Oxygen's my friend and free buzz and assist the pH balance.

I listen to what it needs. I rely on foods and sunshine for vitamins and minerals, even when people point out that the soil is depleted. Disclaimer: still perfecting, still tweaking, and still grateful for this organic miracle. Simply sharing what works for me.

When ‘I get that inner calling’, I use Zeolite once or twice a week:

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I also keep the flora in check with fermented foods that I prepare. Music’s thread and others are listed there as well from WhiteFeather and Dawn. “Fermentation recipes - source of essential pro-biotics. Please add your own. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58853-Fermentation-recipes-source-of-essential-pro-biotics.-Please-add-your-own.&p=670020&viewfull=1#post670020)”

[RunningDeer]

I think the confusion is the heading. When I read body PH I assume you mean blood PH. Diet will not change your blood PH.

Perhaps more clarification is needed. I will try and research this more.
This is how my thinking process works...body or blood or cellular pH, I don’t care. I just attend to health through mind, body and spirit.

You see, I gotta critter that rents out space in ‘me brain’. We’ve come to an agreement. I feed it good stuff and she keeps the TV down really, really low.

:wave:


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