Did Jesus Reveal the Name of the Antichrist?

[foreverfan]

You decide.... :confused:

bcbloBA2Lek

[MadMax1]

Not sure what to make of this one it's a very uncanny coincidence that the translation matches the name but i'm sure we will find out in due course if the shoe fits or not, how many years does he have left as president?

[risveglio]

Not sure what to make of this one it's a very uncanny coincidence that the translation matches the name but i'm sure we will find out in due course if the shoe fits or not, how many years does he have left as president?

Well he has been president for 12 so at least 4 more. But right now the front runners wear the Rubio and Clinton suits and this Clinton soup shows up as a woman (kinda), is not nearly as entertaining and seems a bit more violent so probably 8-12 more years.

[Soulboy]

[QUOTE=MadMax1;691532]Well he has been president for 12 so at least 4 more.

Didn't he get elected in '08 or '09? When I do the math, I arrive at something lower than 12 yrs :confused:

Since that may not be his real name, you'd have to ask yourself the question of who came up with that name (if indeed it was made up). There are many theories out there how that name came about, I have no idea how to pick one. Personally, I don't quite believe in the accuracy of biblical prophecy. I'm more inclined to take it like Cooper put it, i.e. the prophecies are being used as a script, that is IF (!!!) any of this is even near the truth ;)

It's a strange one, though, thanks

[Kraut]

http://www.alwaysreformed.com/home/23/165-did-jesus-call-obama-the-antichrist-umno

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-antichrist-video.htm

To get some insight into these claims, TruthOrFiction.com contacted Dr. Tom Finley, Professor of Old Testament and Semitics and Chair, Old Testament and Semitics Department at Talbot Theological Seminary in La Mirada , California . Let’s look at them one at a time:

Dr. Finley says that most scholars agree that Jesus probably spoke and taught in Aramaic, but that there is debate on that topic.

He did point out that it is not accurate to say that “Aramaic is the most ancient form of Hebrew?” Not at all. According to Dr. Finley, Hebrew and Aramaic are two distinct languages, although closely related.

He confirmed that the word for lightning is indeed “baraq” in Hebrew. In Aramaic it’s “beraq.”

Dr. Finley said that in Hebrew "bama" means "back," "hill," or "high place, place of worship" (Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament). In Isaiah 14:14 the term refers to "the heights of the clouds" (KJV) or "the back of a cloud" (a Jewish translation called Tanakh) or "the tops of the clouds" (NRSV).

However, he said that the normal word for "heavens" in Hebrew is "shamayim," and that is the word used in Isaiah 14:12 ("How you are fallen from heaven.")

“Even if we granted that bama could mean "heaven" by itself (that is, without adding a word like "clouds" after it),” Dr. Finley said, “the combination that the video makes, "baraq u/o bama," could only mean "lightning and heaven," not "lightning from heaven" or "the heights").

Further, according to Dr. Finley, “What Jesus said in Luke 10:18 was, in the KJV, "Satan as lightning fall from heaven." If he spoke it in Aramaic, then "from heaven" should be "min shemayya." If Hebrew it should be "mehashamayim." It is impossible that he would have used "bama" for "heaven," whether in Hebrew or Aramaic. In Greek it is "ek tou ouranou." And of course this doesn't address how to account for "and" in the alleged name "baraq u/o bama."

Dr. Finley concluded, “Someone has been playing around with these languages in a rather silly way.”

[Chester]

You decide.... :confused:

bcbloBA2Lek

Note at the end, the author of this interesting video refers to this man by his initials, BHO

if we look closer, we see that
B is the 2nd letter of the English language
H is the 8th
O is the 15th

add that up and we get 25

now take the word Satan and do the same

S = 19
A = 1
T = 20
A = 1
N = 14

add that up and we get 55

and now take 55 and multiply the two digits like this 5 x 5
this equals 25
which gets us right back to
B H O


Ohhh and I just caught another!

Look at the video - Isaiah 14:14

1 + 4 = 5 : 1 + 4 = 5

55 again

As David Icke says..."Just a coincidence... nothing to worry about."

hahaha

[risveglio]

Didn't he get elected in '08 or '09?

Yes, Obama got elected in '08 and started serving in '09. But since he is no different than Bush, that's 12 years. You can just call him George W. Obama.

[Lifebringer]

Well, I just downloaded the Original text of the "Geneva Bible." Very enlightening what was changed by King James.

[Chester]

Didn't he get elected in '08 or '09?

Yes, Obama got elected in '08 and started serving in '09. But since he is no different than Bush, that's 12 years. You can just call him George W. Obama.

Well... if he is "satan" (from the fires of hell!) and Bush... does this imply the source for all his actions comes from the burning bush?.

You can't make this stuff up... hahaha

and for what its worth - Obama is no Bush

[risveglio]

Didn't he get elected in '08 or '09?

Yes, Obama got elected in '08 and started serving in '09. But since he is no different than Bush, that's 12 years. You can just call him George W. Obama.

Well... if he is "satan" (from the fires of hell!) and Bush... does this imply the source for all his actions comes from the burning bush?.

You can't make this stuff up... hahaha

and for what its worth - Obama is no Bush

Yeah, you are right, he seems worse.

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Well, I just downloaded the Original text of the "Geneva Bible." Very enlightening what was changed by King James.

So King James knew about Obama?

[Lifebringer]

I was told when I came off addiction, that whatever we thought we knew, we are wrong about. If you look for a scapegoat, you will always find someone pointing the direction to cast blame for decades of neglect and corruption. He's been in there for 5 years, and NOT one congressional person on the right has voted w/him, even though it was their bi-patrician bill. I would say the devils are in the houses, and you can't blame centuries of ignorance, greed and hate, and put it on 1 person's soul, for it took centuries of planning by the ptw, to install the programming for people to think that way. Why did King James change the Original Bible? He was Government, and so he wanted to play God.

I mean, we were told not to change one word in the texts, and they've done oodles and oodles of words switched around, to not look like plagerism, which it was. Government plageristic switching of the most HIGH's words of guidance.

What was he trying to guide the people to do? War with other nations on the "my God is better/my Religion's better, than your religion burinings?

All these years and all these wars, I can't help but feel a lot of churches are failing to preach peace and tolerance in this nation alone.

Something to pray on and think through for soulution.

[Lifebringer]

No but Satan did, and to deceive the people, it would take people who were in powerful positions of leadership. Look at the RCC, and the trail of pedophilia going on there? What verse of Catholic teaching, permits this? I'm just saying that's is why Jesus looked within, because even back then, the scriptures were tampered with by the same Hebrew Jewish priests that gathered Judas to their bosom for 30 sheckles of silver.

Casting the stage for murder of the Christ, that they didn't want to relinquish "fame" from. They thought themselves above the laws of God and killed His Son, is the story. I don't pick and choose the verses, I take notes on the explanation in the verses, and read them as they evolved. seeing the action, reaction, ying/yang and imbalance from those days in the New testament. Because John the Baptist was teaching some of the things wrong, led by the priests in prophecy, Jesus had to come and correct the teaching of the he// people put on themselves because of dogmatic teachings of material world, and not the Father's Kingdom.

Regardless, if ye bare false witness on this President, what do you think God would do? I mean it's HIS plan and The President wouldn't be in there, if he wasn't supposed to be, or allowed by God. On the campaign trail for two years with the prospect of becoming the leader of the free world, and God protected Barack and Michelle. To turn on them, because a few old fuddy duddies, won't do their job and bring a jobs bill, isn't right? Because he didn't start the wars, and in 2003 stated in the press when others were afraid to, the "IRAQ WAR WAS A DUMB WAR." Sadaam had nothing to do with 911, and he's gotten US out, other than council for the leadership and protection at an embassy. Afghanistan the Republican drug squad, always want to go to Afghanistan since 1969 to take over the poppies. Who didn't know that? It's Papa Bush's fields, duh.

Just saying watch the whole unfold, it is all being Guided by God, it's his plan for this time. Work on your weaknesses within, that came from my guide to you in love. Sometimes anger, the most dangerous emotion of cause and effect, can be hard to shed. Its the only emotion, besides love or greed, that will make a person do and say things they may not mean.

[GoodETxSG]

Debunked? Not sure about this... I think he would be a good candidate for sure as the "AC" but the translations do not hold up to scrutiny IMHO. I do not find this same info in translation on my own. If someone else does please show me the methodology as I would love to be able to repeat it.

http://politics.skepticproject.com/articles/obama/obama-is-the-antichrist/

[Chester]

When going into the sub levels of being, such as the realms of the archetype where a more basic set of building blocks exist, we find that within each of us is "satan" (The Savior/Anti-Savior dynamic), "Lucifer" (Jesus the Messiah - the bringer of Love/Light), "GOD" (Almighty!).

When we discover these "things" are current day labels for "ideas" that lie below the surface of the waking, conscious mind and we then consider if it possible an "as yet to understand" outside agency might have the ability to influence an individual's mind at the archetypal level and then take that to the next step where the influence is applied on a grand scale (like across a large segment of human society), one approaches understanding that perhaps all these things religious may simply be sophisticated control mechanisms (which is the opinion I hold).

It is a human property that an individual human (as well as a collective) have the ability to generate "confirming synchronicities." Because most of us are still prone to superstition, we interpret these things as real confirmations of the results of our own mind creations which...

...are being manipulated (IMHO) by third parties that are able to stay under the radar of most on earth today because we would rather believe in some "god" or "jesus" or some "holy book" or some messianic president (like BHO) or some other "savior" type of being than accept the possibility that if there is in fact anything to be saved, one must do it for themselves.

I think I will copy down this post in my own book -

Chester 14: (post)14

[Soulboy]

Didn't he get elected in '08 or '09?

Yes, Obama got elected in '08 and started serving in '09. But since he is no different than Bush, that's 12 years. You can just call him George W. Obama.

Haha, touche

After all, I think poor old Barry is just another puppet reading off the teleprompter and he's not really the end of the problem or even the beginning. He's just a figurehead, so don't blame him imo. I'm sure whoever pulls the strings, has a mountain of dirt on him and can make him dance to whatever tune being played at any time. He pretty much said so himself when he said something like "to people who intend to go into politics in future, I would recommend they lead the life of a saint" or something similar he said in front of a bunch of college grads within the last year.

Didn't someone in the recent Snowden spying scandal/ psy-op reveal that there is a huge amount of blackmail going on? Not a far leap to imagine that somebody has a lot of dirt on him to keep him in check. The permanent govt is far more worrisome to me, I suppose



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[CdnSirian]

http://www.amazon.com/Rescuing-Bible-Fundamentalism-Rethinks-Scripture/dp/0060675187/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1371918658&sr=1-1&keywords=rescuing+the+bible+from+fundamentalism Rescuing The Bible From Fundamentalism is the best book I have found to date that reviews the writings and translations known to date.

No shocker - the Old Testmant was routinely re-written by the Hebrew priests according to their needs for political and spiritual leadership over the Jews.

The new testament was not written for about three hundred years after Christ's life - who knows what happened in the oral hand-me-downs.

Dot connecting is always interesting. But, as it's been noted recently on PA that the second coming of Christ is not a person it's a collective - which I think I first read in the Seth materials - I think that the Anti Christ is also a collective and ...drumroll...He It They is/are... BA-ack! :)

[Mu2143]

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[778 neighbour of some guy]

Phew, thats a relief, its just Obama, I was somewhat afraid this was about Eric Cartman.

[Soulboy]

Well, I just downloaded the Original text of the "Geneva Bible." Very enlightening what was changed by King James.

Got a link? I have been trying to find a few versions before KJ, but found it difficult (while I didn't put a whole lot effort into it, either, I guess) I downloaded that bible companion that Maxwell recommended and it's not bad at all

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I bet he listens to this when he snorts coke!

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[onawah]

If you read even just some of the works of the cutting edge scholars who have researched the Bible and how it came about, you will find that the adulterated legacy the Church has bequeathed to humanity is so far from accurate as to be laughable.
The late Sir Laurence Gardner, who was himself born to an Illuminati family, but became a superb whistleblower, demonstrated how, in his book Genesis of the Grail Kings, the personality of Satan was purely a fabrication of the Church, designed to terrify and keep the masses in thralldom to the Church.
I think the only way to really understand the New Testament is to understand first the Old Testament, which was actually based on the very ancient Sumerian history recorded on clay tablets that Z. Sitchin translated.
Though the controversy surrounding Z. Sitchin's work continues to rage, Gardner's works tend to corroborate much of what Sitchin said, and Gardner had access to archives of additional records that had been kept secret for a very long time.
The light he sheds on the origins of words, names and events from various texts, and translations which have been misrepresented over the centuries is very illuminating.
I think any person who is seriously interested in understanding the Bible would want to read his books.
His website is http://graal.co.uk/ and some of his work can be read there and on other sites online.
I have read his books Bloodline of the Holy Grail and am currently reading Genesis of the Grail Kings and will next be reading Realm of the Ring Lords, which are all riveting.
His work about the Arc of the Covenant and monoatomic gold is fascinating too, and there is a video about that here:
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[Camilo]

Well, I think there is to much speculation on the subject.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I bet he listens to this when he snorts coke!

gcTaQoaaJ7E

That's so weird TWTCS, I listen to that too, I snort wheatgrass powder though:o

I love Slayer btw, they are not the bad guys, they are just storytellers, they must have awoken many more then the whole alternative media altogether.

Join the holy slampit

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[ROMANWKT]

You decide.... :confused:

bcbloBA2Lek

Ghats an easy choice foreverfan, there is no trace of a so called Christ on record until his so called death 300 years later, you decide......

Warmest regards

roman

[DeDukshyn]

Bwahahahaha!! This thread is hilarious ... Baw Rawk means lightning and somehow that means barack which = antichrist?? A good chuckle nonetheless. Antichrist isn't a person just like Christ isn't a person, old rumours die hard I guess.

[Chester]

It just supports my theory the R6 implant still has a hold on much of humanity - So many of us seem to want Armageddon.

In fact, I know several evangelicals who have been in a daze for months now since "the end times" didn't happen on Dec. 21, 2012. They walk around with this bewildered look. Like someone slammed their head into a wall. Sad but better than having to face their "I told you so" look in Hell (or Heaven for those who may have been good).

[risveglio]

Didn't he get elected in '08 or '09?

Yes, Obama got elected in '08 and started serving in '09. But since he is no different than Bush, that's 12 years. You can just call him George W. Obama.

Haha, touche

After all, I think poor old Barry is just another puppet reading off the teleprompter and he's not really the end of the problem or even the beginning. He's just a figurehead, so don't blame him imo. I'm sure whoever pulls the strings, has a mountain of dirt on him and can make him dance to whatever tune being played at any time. He pretty much said so himself when he said something like "to people who intend to go into politics in future, I would recommend they lead the life of a saint" or something similar he said in front of a bunch of college grads within the last year.

Didn't someone in the recent Snowden spying scandal/ psy-op reveal that there is a huge amount of blackmail going on? Not a far leap to imagine that somebody has a lot of dirt on him to keep him in check. The permanent govt is far more worrisome to me, I suppose



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Yes, I agree that he is just a puppet. I think it was the late great comedian Bill Hicks that said something like the globalists (may not have used that word) who really run everything. They show the president footage of the Kennedy assassination from an angle no one has ever seen before, and then hand him his agenda. But I think he still deserves some blame and the anti-war left that still support him deserve a lot of criticism.

[Soulboy]

Didn't he get elected in '08 or '09?

Yes, Obama got elected in '08 and started serving in '09. But since he is no different than Bush, that's 12 years. You can just call him George W. Obama.

Haha, touche

After all, I think poor old Barry is just another puppet reading off the teleprompter and he's not really the end of the problem or even the beginning. He's just a figurehead, so don't blame him imo. I'm sure whoever pulls the strings, has a mountain of dirt on him and can make him dance to whatever tune being played at any time. He pretty much said so himself when he said something like "to people who intend to go into politics in future, I would recommend they lead the life of a saint" or something similar he said in front of a bunch of college grads within the last year.

Didn't someone in the recent Snowden spying scandal/ psy-op reveal that there is a huge amount of blackmail going on? Not a far leap to imagine that somebody has a lot of dirt on him to keep him in check. The permanent govt is far more worrisome to me, I suppose



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Yes, I agree that he is just a puppet. I think it was the late great comedian Bill Hicks that said something like the globalists (may not have used that word) who really run everything. They show the president footage of the Kennedy assassination from an angle no one has ever seen before, and then hand him his agenda. But I think he still deserves some blame and the anti-war left that still support him deserve a lot of criticism.

Good point, hehe. What really hit home for Obama, though, was MLK's untimely demise. Didn't he say to someone who asked him why he didn't do all the things he promised and was supposed to stand for, something like: "Didn't you see what happened to MLK Jr.?". Haven't got the exact quote to hand right now, but it's close to that anyway. Talking about Bill Hicks, do you think that Obama may have been third in line after MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice to... :censored: ?