Spooky! Egyptian statuette spins untouched inside glass case

[paul1972]

dear Avalonians,

Watch this footage.. anyone with a reasonable explanation??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346758/Ancient-Egyptian-statue-started-MOVING-sparking-fears-struck-curse-Pharaohs.html

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[Ammit]

Neat. Seems to do a quarter turn every day.

[nonesuch]

It looks a lot like stop-action animation to me. The speed with which days and nights go by in the video tells me that camera is taking a photo maybe every 10-20 minutes. in stop-action photography, you snap a photo, then move your object just a bit and snap another then move it again, etc. I used to make those for fun. when you play the video back, you see only the object moving in a jerky fashion just like the statue does, but not the person who moves it when the camera is dormant..
There is obviously enough time in between shots of the statue for a bored staff member (or paid PR team) to open the case, rotate the statue a few degrees, close the case until after the next time-lapsed frame is taken, then repeat the process over and over. They probably could even do it when no visitors are in the room, considering how few are shown in the vid.
Why would they do that? Publicity for the museum, building on the legend of the Egyptian curse. Surely the place is swamped with visitors now who want to see the statue move.
Here's the real giveaway to me though... notice that the statue only moves during working hours, during the day. At night, no motion whatsoever. Whoever is moving the statue leaves every night and resumes their prank in the morning.
Just a theory. Maybe the statue is moving of its own volition, but why stop at night, particularly when a camera is aimed its way 24/7? It could do its dance all night to baffle us even more.

[Skywizard]

Curators at the Manchester Museum say that they’ve had this particular relic, a piece of history dating back to 1800 BC, on display for 80 years, but it wasn’t until several weeks ago when they began to notice its mysterious movements.
 
The statue is usually buried with its mummy and in Ancient Egyptian belief, if the mummy is destroyed then the spirit can takeup residence in the statue that accompanied it.  Is that the case here?  The video below is a time lapse of the statue moving!   It seems to turn a full 180 degrees from where it began.  Skeptics say that it must be cause by heavy trucks or something natural making vibrations to make the statue move but the museum curator points out that none of the other statue’s and relics are moving and this has only began with the one statue weeks ago and has been in the museum for 85 years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exfmlj6FQ7g

peace...
skywizard

[ghostrider]

The reason the statue moves could be =it reacts with the sun... and the auras of people walking by... member Egypt is famous for building things with the stars and constellations/energy in mind first ... Notice that statue is very different from the others ... if it's a hoax it's a good one , if it's real maybe its telling us we are running around in circles going nowhere ...lol

[happyuk]

Vibrations helping it on its way perhaps, like cars, trucks, machines, people etc bouncing around all day.

A bit like when I leave stuff on top of my washing machine while its hammering away...

[Snookie]

Vibrations helping it on its way perhaps, like cars, trucks, machines, people etc bouncing around all day.

A bit like when I leave stuff on top of my washing machine while its hammering away...

But why would it just start doing this after 85 years of being still? And no other statues are moving either.

[Roisin]

The "Curse of the Mummy" strikes again! I betcha this relic would slurp up some beer from a spoon if it was offered to it! :yes4:

The inscription on the back pillar reads: “An offering which the king gives to Osiris, Lord of Life, that he may give a voice offering, consisting of bread, beer, oxen and fowl for the Ka-spirit of Nebsenu ’.
http://egyptmanchester.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/the-mystery-of-the-spinning-statuette/

[DeDukshyn]

Vibrations helping it on its way perhaps, like cars, trucks, machines, people etc bouncing around all day.

A bit like when I leave stuff on top of my washing machine while its hammering away...

But why would it just start doing this after 85 years of being still? And no other statues are moving either.

The vibrations could be coming from anywhere ... new air handling unit on the building perhaps, or something external completely. Also the material may be such that it creates a high bounce coefficient with the floor. Not saying for sure this is what it is, but it would be what I would try to rule out if investigating. Neat video.

[Selene]

It appears from the time lapse that the movement only happens during daylight and/or when the museum is open. Don't know what the connection might be... If it moved in the dark, that would be truly spooky.

:peep:

Cheers,
Selene

[Roisin]

No one's around at night. That relic just wants attention hence why it only 'moves' during the day when people are around. ;)

P.S. That relic is a whopping 4,000 years old! That's mind boggling!

[Billy]

I do not know if this one is genuine I am never sure with video's but i have witnessed this phenomenon in real life, so i know it is possible. I did not think it was a miracle, just the spirit saying Hello.


peace

[Roisin]

I think you are right. The phenomenon of moving statues is not unheard of and there there have been many reports of that happening especially for statues of the Virgin Mary.

[angienader]

It looks legit. I guess they should move it a bit to see if it just being moved by a vibration from people walking...(which would seem odd) I guess since it's a museum and they set up the camera...they might want to set one up in the display so that we can see if it moves as the people are walking by. Maybe someones using telekinesis?

[Hazel]

There appears to be a regular intermittent overshadowing of what looks like the same tall figure next to the statue throughout the time delay action/ can anyone account for that?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

that is super neat.

is there any chance that the way it was carved, i.e. balanced, could cause the statue to pivot/swing around?

is it perfectly flat on the bottom???

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I *suppose* the bottom of the statue + the manner in which it was carved could account for the movement,
but who am I to say?

[cloud9]

An easy explanation is that the base of the statue is not 100% flat, a bit convex and during the day the vibration of people walking by and traffic makes it turn. Perhaps the floor has become weaker for some reason. In any case, this is not supernatural but easily explained by physics.

[Ellisa]

You are probably right cloud9, but what if the base is not irregular? I read a longer article about this statue this morning and it stated that there were no explanations of this sort. I do not think there is a supernatural cause, but it is an interesting puzzle, and I'm sure the cause will be found--- who knows?--- maybe it will be an unforeseen microscopic irregularity, and you were right!

How long in its 4,000 year life has the statue been doing this? did it do it before it arrived at the museum? Did the installation of the cameras show the movement, and everyone realised then that that was why the statue was often back to front? Maybe there's been a change in heating, cooling or position as well as the camera.

Ancient Egypt is so fascinating and mysterious!

[Sérénité]

Ive been in this building, its very old and the floor boards are bouncy. Its also on a main thorough-way road in town so there is a lot of traffic, lorrys, buses etc.

The statue seems to move mostly through the day, when a higher flow of people are walking round the museum. My guess is its just natural movement of a statue that's not very heavy and has a polished or soft protective base making it prone to vibrational slip.

I've also learned never to trust a Mancunian, so if the above is not valid, its probably more likely to be a trick to get more visitors into the museum this summer ;)

[noprophet]

Campbell Price ‏@EgyptMcr (https://twitter.com/EgyptMcr) 22 Jun

@CuriosityTweet @McrMuseum how dastardly this makes me sound... but I promise that I haven't been spinning the statuette!

I have to hand it to twitter, its something else when you can just ask the curator. ^_^

[Billy]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60385-Ancient-Egyptian-Statue-Has-Begun-Moving-On-Its-Own&p=692253#post692253

Mods a merging of threads is required.

[Marianne]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60385-Ancient-Egyptian-Statue-Has-Begun-Moving-On-Its-Own&p=692253#post692253
The thread above has been merged into this one.

[DeDukshyn]

I *suppose* the bottom of the statue + the manner in which it was carved could account for the movement,
but who am I to say?

It would depend on the center of gravity of the statue, the points of contact on the bottom, and would require still a slight slope / warp in the floor. You would also need a a catalyst for tiny incremental movements which could be the minute vibrations of people walking on the floor during the day; I think it may be safe to assume the building has a basement, with columns supporting the floor. If it is an old building, floors get warped slightly around these support columns making potentially both "bouncy floors" and slopes / warping. (hence with no footsteps to cause the vibrations -- no movement at night) ... this appears to be the case. In fact without more evidence, I have to conclude to myself that this is what is happening.

[kenaz]

One thing to consider with vibrations is that there would be sideways movement, bang right into the glass
or into the other statues. The date/time stamp is hard to read but it looks like it is over a matter of six or
seven days which would make the movement very subtle.

[DeDukshyn]

One thing to consider with vibrations is that there would be sideways movement, bang right into the glass
or into the other statues. The date/time stamp is hard to read but it looks like it is over a matter of six or
seven days which would make the movement very subtle.

Not true about sideways movements. Center of gravity / contact points to floor / slope or warp of floor with footstep creating the vibrations during the day. All the variables that are needed for a rotation. Basic physics.

BTW a warm welcome to Avalon!

[Nick Matkin]

Here is a recent BBC news video of this statue in the Manchester (UK) Museum. It's a reliable source I hope and puts the mystery into context. It does not come to any firm conclusions...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23029507

Nick

[sigma6]

Is this a newfie test?

[DeDukshyn]

Is this a newfie test?

Hahhaaha ... ;)

[Vitalux]

Thought I would share this with the community.

This time lapse video shows this statue spinning in place slowly over the course of a few months. Its security footage at a museum. The curator offers some kind of friction explanation.

Feel free to discuss your opinions.

Myself, I see no direct evidence of a hoax, and am intrigued that objects can be moved at times by unseen forces.
However, anything is possible and we can never be too sure about anything :ohwell:

My guess is it might be possible that the composition of the material the statue is created from has a magnetic interaction with other energies of our planet and at various times those forces align and slight changes in movement occur. Similar to the way a compass needle moves due to a magnetic attraction to a thing we call magnetic north.






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbXEHu27qUI

[Ernie Nemeth]

my take is it is the ratchet effect in action and the motive force is caused by the people walking on the floor, setting up vibrations in the wooden planks

[Snookie]

I agree with John & Adam (from The No Agenda Show)it's a way for the museum to increase revenues by getting more visitors to come see it. They could prove it is NOT a hoax easily by having it filmed continuously rather than just doing the "time lapse" photo BS. I read somewhere that no one has seen it move. Someone is moving it during the night when the museum is closed which is precisely why the still shots are being done.

http://www.noagendashow.com/

[Ernie Nemeth]

Snookie's right, of course.
I was assuming no trickery and explaining the apparent movement by ordinary means.

[Tony]

Vibration, heat and weighting...it finds its natural position and comes to rest.

[Prodigal Son]

I only saw it move during the daytime when people were moving through the place. That rules out somebody messing with it at night. The vibration from the floorboards would seem to be a good explanation.

[Wind]

There is another thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60384-Spooky--Egyptian-statuette-spins-untouched-inside-glass-case

[Muzz]

There is another thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60384-Spooky--Egyptian-statuette-spins-untouched-inside-glass-case

Threads merged :)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Jeez, 4000 years old, 80 of them in a museum, cant a statue be bored anymore, what's the fuzz all about, when I am bored I take walks too:rolleyes:

[Atlas]

A museum employee dismissed the vibration theory, telling ABC News,

I was working in this gallery for around an hour and a half one day. The statuette had moved 45 degrees, and the gallery was empty. Nobody was walking through, so how can that be explained by visitor footfall or vibration?
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-ancient-egyptian-statue-rotating-by-itself-in-manchester-museum.t1838/

http://www.thehistoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Neb-Senu-back.jpg
Neb-Senu is a relatively small, anthropomorphic statue carved from dark stone that was made to be a medium for the soul of an Ancient Egyptian man who died c. 1800 BCE. (http://musingsmmst.blogspot.com/2014/10/cursed-or-misunderstood-neb-senu-statue.html)