[HOAX] NASA's 'End-of-the-World' document

[Maia Gabrial]

I just discovered this video about a document that NASA put out called "Future Strategic Issues/Warfare (Circa 2025). Looks like those wily scientists at NASA aren't just NOT giving straight answers to us, but they're hiding dangerous information from us.

As with all things, don't just accept what they say, use research and have your BS-Meter turned on:

T5xi4dejjWw

And if you're interested in downloading this NASA document in pdf and/or the Iron Mountain Document, go to http://www.stopthecrime.net

If there's trouble with this youtube video, then we know it's scaring TPTW.....(Luckily, I made a copy for myself!) Get the word out if you're inclined to do it....

The more of us that are aware of what they'll be using against us the better....

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[ Mod-edit: This "NASA presentation" is almost certainly a concocted or forged document. See further the discussion below, such as Bill's Post #68 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-NASA-and-TPTW-have-declared-war-on-us-and-there-s-proof-&p=695341&viewfull=1#post695341). - Paul. ]

[naste.de.lumina]

I watched this documentary yesterday and the woman who was interviewed beyond this NASA document showed another a meeting of the Bilderberg group.
Covert battles soon will no longer be possible. Many people will go into shock and panic when they find out the reality of plans that organizations in which they have always trusted has planned for them.

[Maia Gabrial]

Have you taken a look at the NASA document yet? Man, if that doesn't open eyes and piss people off, then I don't know what else would....

[naste.de.lumina]

Have you taken a look at the NASA document yet? Man, if that doesn't open eyes and piss people off, then I don't know what else would....

Yes I looked at the NASA document.
I and others are translating to post on a website here in Brazil.

http://forum.antinovaordemmundial.com/Topico-documento-nasa-o-futuro-da-guerra-2025-o-futuro-%C3%A9-agora-transhumanismo

Sinister. The problem is it will not reach the large population because the official media will not publish.
Who will see who is already aware of what happens.
Hopefully I'm wrong.

[Billy]

A detailed outline of the destruction of humanity. It appears the dumbing down part has already kicked in because most of humanity will rather not believe or worse, not care.

Although most Avalonians know this is not news. It is bad bad news.

Like Bill said. It ALL has to come down.

[Maia Gabrial]

Some things:
Page 93 - Capture/torture Americans in living color on prime time.
Page 95 -Survivability - "Can see everything, Anything you can see you can kill".
Page 98 - Water Supply Contamination via intercontinental UAV's ACCOMPANIED BY SERIOUS PSYWAR

Even if they don't get away with doing any of the atrocities, the fact that they think like this is psychotic and spooky. It's time to take these guys and lock them up.... On a prison in a galaxy far, far away.
I think that the US corporation is too dangerous for this planet....

[greybeard]

I posted this here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60330-Solar-Anomalies-around-near-the-sun&p=692260&viewfull=1#post692260

Truth is I dont know about any of this.

Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5P8w31AN0Q

[Billy]

They are already getting away with some of the atrocities.

They are already on a prison planet. This one.

Lordy give peace a chance.

[greybeard]

I posted this here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60330-Solar-Anomalies-around-near-the-sun&p=692260&viewfull=1#post692260

Truth is I dont know about any of this.

Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5P8w31AN0Q

Published on 23 Jun 2013

Jon has found the document so it's 100% REAL ----- watch?v=MISUnX--Pok ALSO MAKE THIS VIRAL..IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THERE IS A PLANET THE SIZE OF JUPITER RIGHT NEXT TO OUR SUN, HEADING IN OUR DIRECTION,THIS IS 100% AND BEEN CONFIRMED BY MANY ASTROMONERS- WATCH THSI VIDEO: watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZvsMlvj1­J6A WTF next, nothing surprises me anymore, are we going to let them do it, sit on our asses and say go ahead, it's fine, no problem?

That was comment found on the bottom of the OP video.

[seehas]

this whole nibiru topic will be still goin on in 20 years i guess, the first so called nibiru pictures i saw 2001 or so published by zetatalk they talked about nibiru arriving in 2003 maybe it meant to be 2013.:popcorn::biggrin1:

same story and the photos didnt get better, why do u guys fall for it? just another hope-anchor isnt it?:hippie:

[naste.de.lumina]

this whole nibiru topic will be still goin on in 20 years i guess, the first so called nibiru pictures i saw 2001 or so published by zetatalk they talked about nibiru arriving in 2003 maybe it meant to be 2013.:popcorn::biggrin1:

same story and the photos didnt get better, why do u guys fall for it? just another hope-anchor isnt it?:hippie:

For me it is not Nibiru, Hercolubus, etc..
It is something that appears suddenly, have stretch marks around her.
Intriguing if not fake.

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[Another1]

~ while watching the video my mind kept running through all the possibilities to include that this is perhaps an onion report made up on an April Fool's Day - or maybe this is just another made-up-scary thing to test public reaction and/or keep the nutters busy?

Reminded of Captain Kirk breaking a super computer with 2 statements:
Everything I say is a lie.
I am lying


BUT these are the same good folk who pretended to treat men for a VD once upon a time and then sat back to document how the men died without proper treatment - they also wanted to know how civilians would respond to radiation so they got laws passed to make it legal and then dosed us ...

[crosby]

i listened to the op video this morning before work, and in conjunction with what greybeard posted of the video description:
"Published on 23 Jun 2013
Jon has found the document so it's 100% REAL ----- watch?v=MISUnX--Pok ALSO MAKE THIS VIRAL..IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THERE IS A PLANET THE SIZE OF JUPITER RIGHT NEXT TO OUR SUN, HEADING IN OUR DIRECTION,THIS IS 100% AND BEEN CONFIRMED BY MANY ASTROMONERS- WATCH THSI VIDEO: watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZvsMlvj1­J6A WTF next, nothing surprises me anymore, are we going to let them do it, sit on our asses and say go ahead, it's fine, no problem?"


I did not hear anything about anything near our sun, perhaps i missed it.... what i did hear is that it is focused on what the ptw have planned and are in preparation planning to do in the future. granted, i feel that i want to slap someone's face for this, but i am irritated also that the video description is focused on something else.

grrrr. argh..... did anyone else notice this as well?
warmest regards, corson

[RunningDeer]

Document called: “Future Strategic Issues/Future Warfare [Circa 2025]: The Future is Now”

Vid credit and thanks to Gio, “Up at the Ranch (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch&p=692374&viewfull=1#post692374)”.

I’m only 11 minutes into this video, but wanted to get this out to everyone.

“They talk about the use of low microwave frequency @ 9:06 (http://youtu.be/T5xi4dejjWw?t=9m6s)“ ”...They say that 100% will be effected by these frequencies. Beginning symptoms: ringing in the ears, heart palpations, skin rashes, inability to sleep through the night...” "Goal? "To jam our immune systems with these frequencies.

Question: How do the elite shield themselves from their own weapons? @ 10:11 (http://youtu.be/T5xi4dejjWw?t=10m7s)

Answer: “They have methods far ahead of anything that we have available to ourselves. Such as cancer cures. They don’t get cancer. Chip mechanisms that we understand to fend off certain frequency attacks. And also we know they are interested in trans-humanism, so they are...”


T5xi4dejjWw

Published on Jun 23, 2013

[greybeard]

i listened to the op video this morning before work, and in conjunction with what greybeard posted of the video description:
"Published on 23 Jun 2013
Jon has found the document so it's 100% REAL ----- watch?v=MISUnX--Pok ALSO MAKE THIS VIRAL..IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THERE IS A PLANET THE SIZE OF JUPITER RIGHT NEXT TO OUR SUN, HEADING IN OUR DIRECTION,THIS IS 100% AND BEEN CONFIRMED BY MANY ASTROMONERS- WATCH THSI VIDEO: watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZvsMlvj1­J6A WTF next, nothing surprises me anymore, are we going to let them do it, sit on our asses and say go ahead, it's fine, no problem?"


I did not hear anything about anything near our sun, perhaps i missed it.... what i did hear is that it is focused on what the ptw have planned and are in preparation planning to do in the future. granted, i feel that i want to slap someone's face for this, but i am irritated also that the video description is focused on something else.

grrrr. argh..... did anyone else notice this as well?
warmest regards, corson

Hi Corson I posted the "Nibiru" video only because of the comments under the op video on u tube which I included in my second post
If I had listened all the way through I would not have posted that video as it irrelevant to the OP interesting a it may be.
Quite happy to remove it if anyone wants me to.
Strange times aren’t they????

Best wishes to you corson.

[greybeard]

Also posted here Paula
Love Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-NASA-and-TPTW-have-declared-war-on-us-and-there-s-proof-&p=692591&viewfull=1#post692591

[Lifebringer]

Ahhh...they'll try to go below and get melted by lava, or go above and be vaporized by their own karma. Either way, it's not going their way, forever.

It's over, and not a moment too soon. I'll predict here and now, that at the top of the branches, will be pruning, and the roots will be aerated, and the rot removed by sept 2013, when the trials begin.

[RunningDeer]

Also posted here Paula
Love Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-NASA-and-TPTW-have-declared-war-on-us-and-there-s-proof-&p=692591&viewfull=1#post692591

Oh ugh!...thanks, Chris.:wave: My Wi-Fi life's been out of whack. I did use my title to searched. Was eager to get it out. Still watching.

This is a good place to add please and thanks to delete thread.

[RunningDeer]

Hello Maia Gabrial,

I'm still watching this video. I stopped long enough to create a thread. I didn't realize you had. Chris gave me the GPS coordinates to your thread. I've asked that mine be deleted. If I wasn't growling through it, I say it's a jaw dropping one. Grrrrr...

Some notes and quick links:

Document called: “Future Strategic Issues/Future Warfare [Circa 2025]: The Future is Now”

“They talk about the use of low microwave frequency @ 9:06 (http://youtu.be/T5xi4dejjWw?t=9m6s)“ ”...They say that 100% will be effected by these frequencies. Beginning symptoms: ringing in the ears, heart palpations, skin rashes, inability to sleep through the night...” "Goal? "To jam our immune systems with these frequencies.

Question: How do the elite shield themselves from their own weapons? @ 10:11 (http://youtu.be/T5xi4dejjWw?t=10m7s)

Answer: “They have methods far ahead of anything that we have available to ourselves. Such as cancer cures. They don’t get cancer. Chip mechanisms that we understand to fend off certain frequency attacks. And also we know they are interested in trans-humanism, so they are...”

[Nickolai]

Hi, all!

I have one question. Is there any proof that the pdf file was published by NASA and was on the NASA site?


Nickolai

[white wizard]

You all seem very afraid of these people, they are not as power full as

you are making them out to be, but when you fear them is when they

get power.

I fear none one, because I see the game being played.

Simple equation the momentum on the planet is shifting more

in the positive direction and there will never be the amount of

negative momentum they need to pull of wide spread stunts like

what Iron mountain reports and other reports describe, because you

need vast man power to pull that off, which they do not and will

not ever have.

Small scale events are possible, but that may only expose them

more.

[Marianne]

Also posted here Paula
Love Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-NASA-and-TPTW-have-declared-war-on-us-and-there-s-proof-&p=692591&viewfull=1#post692591

Oh ugh!...thanks, Chris.:wave: My Wi-Fi life's been out of whack. I did use my title to searched. Was eager to get it out. Still watching.

This is a good place to add please and thanks to delete thread.

Threads merged.

[greybeard]

Hi, all!

I have one question. Is there any proof that the pdf file was published by NASA and was on the NASA site?


Nickolai

As an alternative thought.
If the powers that be etc wanted to control us by keeping us in fear of their power, what better way than promoting this kind of video through conspiracy web sites--no offence intended to the original poster.
Its is believed that the lower astral control the PTB and that they feed on negative energy like fear frustration and anger.
They might just have had lunch through this pdf file supposedly found on NASA web site.

Our big mistake is to think that we are human beings.
We are in a human body with all the limitations that come with that but when you know that you are not the body but spirit/consciousness--where’s the fear?
Those who think they are in control are scared we find that out so they promote fear to keep us locked into body consciousness.
When enough of us are spiritually aware of the fact that we are spirit having a human experience then those who want to control cant.
We are free of them.
David icke said "Only unconditional love is real all else is an illusion." That's the most important statement he has ever made in my opinion.

Chris

[RunningDeer]

Information/documents mentioned found here: StopTheCrime.net (http://stopthecrime.net)

“NASA: The Future of WAR. The Future is Now” (http://stopthecrime.net/nasa.html)

“SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS AND OTHER SOURCE DOCUMENTS” (http://stopthecrime.net/source.html)

IRON MOUNTAIN: Blueprint for Tyranny - PDF (http://stopthecrime.net/docs/Report_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf)

THE VIDEO Transcribed in pdf (http://stopthecrime.net/3TR-IRONMOUNTAIN_1_.pdf)


Iron Mountain- Blueprint to Tyranny (Full Documentary)

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Published on Jul 22, 2012
Documentary made in the early 90's but the information is more relevant and credible today because we see so many things that have actually happened that back when it was said would have seemed a bit far fetched at the time!

Cliff notes for "The Iron Mountain Report (http://stopthecrime.net/info/0074.html)":


THE IRON MOUNTAIN REPORT - Summary

Iron Mountain is a report on how to circumvent the Constitution. It is a document of treason couched in innocuous titles and words.

It is a report on the handling of men, women, children and babies on the basis of "herd or animal management" without regard to morality.

The Constitution has been effectively canceled by Iron Mountain.

The heart of the Iron Mountain report is that war is absolutely necessary and economically a necessary waste. It creates artificial demand.

The organization of a society for the possibility of war is its principal political stabilizer.

The basic authority of the modern state over its people resides in its war powers.

War is the glue that holds the nation together and rallies the people to make such sacrifices so they can build up a huge war machine.

Therefore, a substitute for the war system must be found in order to control the people and provide stability and legitimacy of government if we go into an era of peace.

As they phase war out they have to phase whatever they put in its place to control the people.

New political machinery would be needed at once.

Until a substitute for war is developed then war must continue in order to remain in control. Keep war until all substitutes are in place so we don't lose our rulership and to remain in power.

The substitute for war must be a universal threat of equal magnitude as that of world war. The immediate loss of lifestyles . . . .

It must be credible. It must be accepted by the vast majority of the population of the whole world.

Credibility, in fact, lies at heart of the problem of developing a political substitute for war.

A naiton would self-destruct without an external threat of some type.

It is more probable, in our judgment, that such a threat will have to be INVENTED, rather than developed from some unknown conditions.

It may be, for instance, that GROSS POLLUTION of the environment can eventually replace the possiblity of mass extinction by nuclear weapons as the principle threat to the survival of the species.

In other words, they are going to bring the environment up to the point as the principal threat to the survival of the species by poisoning the water, the food and the air. Environmental disasters constitute a threat that can only be dealt with through a social system on a global scale to offer a solution.

[naste.de.lumina]

Hi, all!

I have one question. Is there any proof that the pdf file was published by NASA and was on the NASA site?


Nickolai

I know you will not find on the NASA website.
It is also not proven that it is official, and is not proven that it is not.
It's like wanting a bank robber leave a receipt of the amount stolen.
Must be leaked document.
Reading and analyzing the document in the context of today's world, you come to their own conclusions.
Hug.

[Billy]

As an alternative thought.
If the powers that be etc wanted to control us by keeping us in fear of their power, what better way than promoting this kind of video through conspiracy web sites--no offence intended to the original poster.

Those who think they are in control are scared we find that out so they promote fear to keep us locked into body consciousness.
When enough of us are spiritually aware of the fact that we are spirit having a human experience then those who want to control cant.
We are free of them.
David icke said "Only unconditional love is real all else is an illusion." That's the most important statement he has ever made in my opinion.

Chris

You are correct Chris. My first reaction to this news was Frustration, Anger then sadness. What hope does humanity have. I was expressing an energy that feeds those that believe they are in control. I fell for it.

Energy, we can't live with it and we can't live without it. But we can choose what energy to manifest by our reactions.



Peace

[RunningDeer]

As referenced from the OP’s video: Quick link - Michael Prince @ 29:30 minutes (http://youtu.be/T5xi4dejjWw?t=29m32s); 4th generational clone that was killed in 2011.


From YouTube: “Bases 9 James Casbolt Part One”

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Uploaded on Apr 1, 2011

In this 1st Videointerview in 6 years James Casbolt tells of the SS Nazi connection with the creation of Cyborgized Human babies for use as Supersoldiers of the 4th Reich, in the modern world,and how his batch of programmed babies was intercepted when enroute from a Canadian Nazi SS Base, in Nelson, British Columbia. The inclusion of his mission as an assassin to terminate one of these Cyborg-Supersoldiers, who had stolen a "Pearl",or suitcase Nuke.


See Bases 1,2,4,5 and 7 for previous data on this. I once again state Casbolt,or birth name Michael Prince has not yet offered PHYSICAL evidence of these claims. The SS Nazi connection also connects Energy 106 Pirate station in Monaghan Ireland, as being part of this programme, as being a Military operation, which explains why it was not raided for years. The viewer must take all claims in context and understand the extremly dangerous ramifications. Prince states we can expect Alien actions in the public domain. His task with his colleagues will be to "herd" us away from such dangers.

[Nickolai]

Naste.de.Lumina,

What I really can not grasp why this supposed document was on the site in the first place. If it meant for the general public why then take it away. If not, then why didn't they use the Intranet instead.
I have no idea if they want to gerald their intentions why not use the more foggy words for their plans. Istead here they use very distinct aggressive discriptions of their supposed future actions.

I am surprised that you are sure that 'it must beleaked document'. Trust me, I am in no way supporting the PTB. I only think they are not so dumb. They are highly educated people. They can predict the reactions and even they fail there are institutions that do.

My guess that the highest agenda of those people is to bring the most of the people to the negativity, fear and paranoia. Because those paralize and allow easily to put humanity on its knees. And that could be the case for making this 'leaking' to create even more fear and negativity.

Nickolai

[DeDukshyn]

Naste.de.Lumina,

What I really can not grasp why this supposed document was on the site in the first place. If it meant for the general public why then take it away. If not, then why didn't they use the Intranet instead.
I have no idea if they want to gerald their intentions why not use the more foggy words for their plans. Istead here they use very distinct aggressive discriptions of their supposed future actions.

I am surprised that you are sure that 'it must beleaked document'. Trust me, I am in no way supporting the PTB. I only think they are not so dumb. They are highly educated people. They can predict the reactions and even they fail there are institutions that do.

My guess that the highest agenda of those people is to bring the most of the people to the negativity, fear and paranoia. Because those paralize and allow easily to put humanity on its knees. And that could be the case for making this 'leaking' to create even more fear and negativity.

Nickolai

Do you think there is not a breaking point? People are far less fearful then they were 50 years ago, therefore, and has been the case, they get braver and braver (whether this video is this case or not - it doesn't matter) with their methods of trying to instill fear. Which will come first? Their more and more aggressive methods of promoting fear for control being found out because of its blatancy, or the total enslavement of humanity? (IMHO the latter already happened, but we don't understand that yet, and what is emerging is potential error correction -- those previously sleeping only see the current for what it is and not the past for what it was, therefore they know not the previous state of human "enslavement").

Sorry again, tangent day for me, but just a few ideas to mess up your guys thoughts some more, lol ... believe nothing, but do consider everything .... ;)

[RunningDeer]

Every once in awhile, I ask myself, “Do I share this information?” or “Will it create enough fear that’ll serve the opposition?” I decided that we all have the right to know. Each will handle it at the level that works perfectly for them.

I am reminded of a science movie when I was in grade school. The floor was covered with mouse traps. Each had a ping-pong ball placed on the spring loaded device. In the center of the room was a man on ladder. He dropped a ball. We watched it play in slow motion. It went on and on long after the traps were released. It’s a perfect metaphor to demonstrate the infinite possibilities for us as co-creators.


“Contact: Wanna Take a Ride?”
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Hi, all!

I have one question. Is there any proof that the pdf file was published by NASA and was on the NASA site?


Nickolai

As an alternative thought.
If the powers that be etc wanted to control us by keeping us in fear of their power, what better way than promoting this kind of video through conspiracy web sites--no offence intended to the original poster.
Its is believed that the lower astral control the PTB and that they feed on negative energy like fear frustration and anger.
They might just have had lunch through this pdf file supposedly found on NASA web site.

Our big mistake is to think that we are human beings.
We are in a human body with all the limitations that come with that but when you know that you are not the body but spirit/consciousness--where’s the fear?
Those who think they are in control are scared we find that out so they promote fear to keep us locked into body consciousness.
When enough of us are spiritually aware of the fact that we are spirit having a human experience then those who want to control cant.
We are free of them.
David icke said "Only unconditional love is real all else is an illusion." That's the most important statement he has ever made in my opinion.

Chris

[ghostrider]

I posted this here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60330-Solar-Anomalies-around-near-the-sun&p=692260&viewfull=1#post692260

Truth is I dont know about any of this.

Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5P8w31AN0Q

Published on 23 Jun 2013

Jon has found the document so it's 100% REAL ----- watch?v=MISUnX--Pok ALSO MAKE THIS VIRAL..IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THERE IS A PLANET THE SIZE OF JUPITER RIGHT NEXT TO OUR SUN, HEADING IN OUR DIRECTION,THIS IS 100% AND BEEN CONFIRMED BY MANY ASTROMONERS- WATCH THSI VIDEO: watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZvsMlvj1­J6A WTF next, nothing surprises me anymore, are we going to let them do it, sit on our asses and say go ahead, it's fine, no problem?

That was comment found on the bottom of the OP video.

the plejaren said there was a planet closer to the sun than mercury, it is named vulcano ... it rotates in harmony with earth and is always directly opposite of us, hidden by the sun ...Nibiru came and went in 1997 it followed the hale-bop comet ...

[thunder24]

the plejaren said there was a planet closer to the sun than mercury, it is named vulcano ... it rotates in harmony with earth and is always directly opposite of us, hidden by the sun ...Nibiru came and went in 1997 it followed the hale-bop comet ...

can you show a picture of this from Lasco or another camera?

[Another1]

I am reminded of a science movie when I was in grade school. The floor was covered with mouse traps. Each had a ping-pong ball placed on the spring loaded device. In the center of the room was a man on ladder. He dropped a ball. We watched it play in slow motion. It went on and on long after the traps were released. It’s a perfect metaphor to demonstrate the infinite possibilities for us as co-creators.

I like this image ... it plays out in here like I've felt as our potential in some really fun moments ...

I get confused at people who can assert that there is no evil (us 'n them) as we are poisoned, lied to, enslaved monetarily and as children are being bombed out of 3D existence with my tax dollars all around the world. Once a critical number of us say 'NO!" to these kinds of things in our hearts, it will be like dropping that ball from the ladder. imo

Trick is, we and our fellow passengers on Earth have to know before we can say no.

Thanks for that video clip. That's a great scene. :)

[ghostrider]

in Billy Meier's predictions for the future he spoke of cyborg killing machines created by the secret goverment agencies ... unbelievable death and war, and even the ptb creating a second sun, the project has huge problems and it leads to a cosmic disaster in our close neighborhood ... robotic killing machines were predicted by Billy in 1958 ... but it's read in the NASA (never a straight answer) reports and NOW folks believe it ...

[ghostrider]

Read the NASA report and be behind the agenda or read the Billy Meier predictions and be in front ...

[ghostrider]

the plejaren said there was a planet closer to the sun than mercury, it is named vulcano ... it rotates in harmony with earth and is always directly opposite of us, hidden by the sun ...Nibiru came and went in 1997 it followed the hale-bop comet ...

can you show a picture of this from Lasco or another camera?

I have no picture, but Billy does ... there are three or four more planets not known to earth scientist ... he has photos of satelites in orbit around mars in 1970 that we had no knowledge were there ...the two satelites A and B are watching more than the sun ... owned by the vatican by the way ... the asteroid belt used to be another planet named Malona , destroyed in space wars ...

[T Smith]

As with all things, don't just accept what they say, use research and have your BS-Meter turned on:



Unfortunately, it's more truth than B.S. Perhaps a little sensationalized in the interpretation... but overall an accurate assessment founded on the facts.

[xerius]

This seems to be a meticulous April Fool's Day Joke, meant to be distributed since 2011. Check the pdf file properties and check the file creation date of March 27, 2011 and been modified last January 23, 2013. Anyone who has been reading a lot of information in the alternative media and is well adept on science fiction , can pretty well make such document and put a stamp symbol of NASA on it to help create the illusion of legitimacy. For such a high caliber NASA document, it is not professionally been written and made. And who is Anita Laurin who suppose to be the one written the pdf document? Kindly check the file properties. Sorry folks I just do not buy it.

[MadMax1]

I'm not sure what to think of this document supposidly leaked from NASA website then taken down if you could get a copy of it and compare it with another official NASA document you would be able to tell if it's real or not. But looking at it on the internet the NASA symbol is correct in detail and the placement on the page. It is however possible that they took a copy of a NASA document scanned the front page and then used the image to create this document by using the lettering and the NASA symbol, but we would not know unless we could look at it closely as i said earlier. In regards to the information in the document some of it seems possible and in fact some of the things have been implemented already in our world as in the technology used by the military and sonic and microwave weapons. Also there has been a massive push towards providing alot of information available on tablets now. All this though is part of our life now and the way the world is heading technology wise but i do believe we are being trained not to think for ourselves, i have stated in previous posts concerning younger generations and even people my age and older are slowly getting stupider and being taught not to think for themselves. Whether this is all part of a big plan by certain elements to control and eventually cull us is up to different interpritation. I myself am concerned about us being trained not to think for ourselves and to believe what we are told by governments and the media is the right thing and i am glad my daughter is of the same mind set i am and questions everything. I do believe there is more to it then just the way the world is nowadays if you believe that then you have fallen into the trap of not thinking for yourself. However i have not enough information yet to say whether this NASA document is real or not i look at it as just another piece of the puzzle, it is up to us to see if it fits or not by studying the whole picture.

[guayabal]

I found another document (powerpoint) of the same presentation here: http://www.fas.org/man/eprint/FutureWarfare.ppt . This looks very interesting... it seems to give authenticity to about half of the slides present on the powerpoint published by stopthecrime.net. It leads to thinking that the stopthecrime.net's version is the full version (the one actually used on the presentation) and the fas.org's version is the "readers digest"... we will have to read both documents to see better if this can be the case.

(The fas.org site links the document from here: http://www.fas.org/man/eprint/ )

[naste.de.lumina]

Naste.de.Lumina,

What I really can not grasp why this supposed document was on the site in the first place. If it meant for the general public why then take it away. If not, then why didn't they use the Intranet instead.
I have no idea if they want to gerald their intentions why not use the more foggy words for their plans. Istead here they use very distinct aggressive discriptions of their supposed future actions.

I am surprised that you are sure that 'it must beleaked document'. Trust me, I am in no way supporting the PTB. I only think they are not so dumb. They are highly educated people. They can predict the reactions and even they fail there are institutions that do.

My guess that the highest agenda of those people is to bring the most of the people to the negativity, fear and paranoia. Because those paralize and allow easily to put humanity on its knees. And that could be the case for making this 'leaking' to create even more fear and negativity.

Nickolai

I agree with you my friend.
May be false and with purpose to frighten.
But I also think that many people are able to control.
Then when some kind of leakage document and / or information
sensitive to the cabal, they rely on our own distrust
this possibility because they know we know its power.
Moreover it is very easy for them to simply speak what is false and ready.
Very hard to prove unless someone from within the agency, in this case NASA and is willing to bear all the consequences of this act.
What I mean by this, is that if we are to rely only when we have indisputable evidence, it would go too far.
I appreciate your thoughtful comment and I apologize if I somehow
seemed to be rude in my words, it was not intentional.
Hug.

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by guayabal (here)
I found another document (powerpoint) of the same presentation here: http://www.fas.org/man/eprint/FutureWarfare.ppt . This looks very interesting... it seems to give authenticity to about half of the slides present on the powerpoint published by stopthecrime.net. It leads to thinking that the stopthecrime.net's version is the full version (the one actually used on the presentation) and the fas.org's version is the "readers digest"... we will have to read both documents to see better if this can be the case.

(The fas.org site links the document from here: http://www.fas.org/man/eprint/ )


Very good my friend guayabal.
This site has lots of information for research.
Thank you.

[Maia Gabrial]

Ahhh...they'll try to go below and get melted by lava, or go above and be vaporized by their own karma. Either way, it's not going their way, forever.

It's over, and not a moment too soon. I'll predict here and now, that at the top of the branches, will be pruning, and the roots will be aerated, and the rot removed by sept 2013, when the trials begin.

I'm counting on these Universal trials to happen. This reminds me of what that Rothschild supper soldier, Erin said about those who contracted to be the dark side. She said that they agree to do all these nasty things and then they'll just ascend. Geez! Then why am I trying so hard to be good and positive?

[Maia Gabrial]

I try to tell myself that it's like the cartoon where one of the character's seeing the shadow of a huge scary monster on the wall and runs away. Then the next thing you see is this tiny little being who doesn't look anything like the monster....or even scary.... Maybe that's what the Illuminati are trying to do to all of us; show us how big and scary they are when they're not even close. Maybe they're like that one cartoon character, Brain of Pinky and the Brain. Brain's always looking for ways to take over the world, but all he is is this small mouse....

:becky:

[crosby]

i listened to the op video this morning before work, and in conjunction with what greybeard posted of the video description:
"Published on 23 Jun 2013
Jon has found the document so it's 100% REAL ----- watch?v=MISUnX--Pok ALSO MAKE THIS VIRAL..IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THERE IS A PLANET THE SIZE OF JUPITER RIGHT NEXT TO OUR SUN, HEADING IN OUR DIRECTION,THIS IS 100% AND BEEN CONFIRMED BY MANY ASTROMONERS- WATCH THSI VIDEO: watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZvsMlvj1­J6A WTF next, nothing surprises me anymore, are we going to let them do it, sit on our asses and say go ahead, it's fine, no problem?"


I did not hear anything about anything near our sun, perhaps i missed it.... what i did hear is that it is focused on what the ptw have planned and are in preparation planning to do in the future. granted, i feel that i want to slap someone's face for this, but i am irritated also that the video description is focused on something else.

grrrr. argh..... did anyone else notice this as well?
warmest regards, corson

Hi Corson I posted the "Nibiru" video only because of the comments under the op video on u tube which I included in my second post
If I had listened all the way through I would not have posted that video as it irrelevant to the OP interesting a it may be.
Quite happy to remove it if anyone wants me to.
Strange times aren’t they????

Best wishes to you corson.


no, no, i didn't mean any disrespect to you greybeard. i read the video description while i was watching and noticed it too. you haven't done anything wrong. i am just wondering why the video script says one thing while the video itself depicts another. sorry if i came across as being harsh towards you...... not my intention at all.
warmest regards, corson

[jackovesk]

I just discovered this video about a document that NASA put out called "Future Strategic Issues/Warfare (Circa 2025). Looks like those wily scientists at NASA aren't just NOT giving straight answers to us, but they're hiding dangerous information from us.

As with all things, don't just accept what they say, use research and have your BS-Meter turned on:

T5xi4dejjWw

And if you're interested in downloading this NASA document in pdf and/or the Iron Mountain Document, go to http://www.stopthecrime.net

If there's trouble with this youtube video, then we know it's scaring TPTW.....(Luckily, I made a copy for myself!) Get the word out if you're inclined to do it....

The more of us that are aware of what they'll be using against us the better....

NASA (IS) and (ALWAYS) has been part of the (SECRET :spy: GOVT.)...:yes4:

[Peace of Mind]

It’s all about molding your minds to except fear. If they can keep you addressing their fear tactics with little to no remedy they will continue to rule through fear tactics.

In my experiences the only true power these corrupt governments have are the brain washed police and low ranked military personnel. These are the people we need to reach. They too have family and friends and in most cases believe they are doing the right thing. The police are trained to look out for each other and to not trust outsiders, they are taught to meet quotas, and in major cities they rarely get promoted if they don’t reach a certain amount of arrest/tickets. They became a gang that often displays disregard for civilian rights because they know the higher ups will have their backs.
The military is filled with young men and women/kids thinking they are serving their country, propaganda is heavy in the arm forces. They/soldiers are told never to question their orders and if they did consequences will follow.

This is where you/we get the upper hand. Talk to your family members who are in law enforcement and/or serve in the military, also talk to your friends who have people in these areas. They need to know the people will have their back because they so often believe the masses are powerless and that any chance of revolt for positive change and/or the end of corruption will only come through THEM/The law…and many of them are too scared to take that chance because they feel the masses isn’t really going to back them up.

The relationship between authority and civilians is bleak on purpose, it’s to divide, keep the authority and public separated so there is no chance for the government to be placed in jeopardy. We have to reach them now before the government changes tactics and uses drones, robots, clones, to do their bidding…first whipping out the remainder of well meaning Oath Keepers and the benevolent peace keepers patrolling our neighborhoods. It can get much worse if we (the people) don’t act on what we see festering right before our eyes. The future will be the result of what we do and don’t do in the present.

Peace

[jackovesk]

It’s all about molding your minds to except fear. If they can keep you addressing their fear tactics with little to no remedy they will continue to rule through fear tactics.

In my experiences the only true power these corrupt governments have are the brain washed police and low ranked military personnel. These are the people we need to reach. They too have family and friends and in most cases believe they are doing the right thing. The police are trained to look out for each other and to not trust outsiders, they are taught to meet quotas, and in major cities they rarely get promoted if they don’t reach a certain amount of arrest/tickets. They became a gang that often displays disregard for civilian rights because they know the higher ups will have their backs.
The military is filled with young men and women/kids thinking they are serving their country, propaganda is heavy in the arm forces. They/soldiers are told never to question their orders and if they did consequences will follow.

This is where you/we get the upper hand. Talk to your family members who are in law enforcement and/or serve in the military, also talk to your friends who have people in these areas. They need to know the people will have their back because they so often believe the masses are powerless and that any chance of revolt for positive change and/or the end of corruption will only come through THEM/The law…and many of them are too scared to take that chance because they feel the masses isn’t really going to back them up.

The relationship between authority and civilians is bleak on purpose, it’s to divide, keep the authority and public separated so there is no chance for the government to be placed in jeopardy. We have to reach them now before the government changes tactics and uses drones, robots, clones, to do their bidding…first whipping out the remainder of well meaning Oath Keepers and the benevolent peace keepers patrolling our neighborhoods. It can get much worse if we (the people) don’t act on what we see festering right before our eyes. The future will be the result of what we do and don’t do in the present.

Peace


It’s all about molding your minds to except fear. If they can keep you addressing their fear tactics with little to no remedy they will continue to rule through fear tactics.


The only Nation on Earth who (still) really believes in Fear :scared: is Amerika..! http://fla.fg-a.com/usa_sm_halfm2.gif

Must be their Citizens (Guilt-Factor) for allowing their Govt. to commit so many (ATROCITIES) all over the world in their name..!

Go grab another Beer :cheers: and Pizza and sit down & watch the next episode of (Shock & Awe) WWIII on CNN..!!!

[Kryztian]

Hi, all!
I have one question. Is there any proof that the pdf file was published by NASA and was on the NASA site?
Nickolai

Good question Nickolai. I googled NASA and could not find it there now, although other websites have copies of this Power Point file.

One should question her reference to "The Report from Iron Mountain" which is often considered to be a hoax. I haven't actually seen the original book, but I believe that indeed, it was written as satire by Leonard Lewin, but published so one might think this is a government document. I think this ambiguity was intentional on the part of Lewin, to get his book publicity. When someone reproduced the "Report" part of the book claiming the government documents are not copyrightable, Lewin sued and claimed authorship.

[Nat_Lee]

OK !

I have just one question.

If the goal is to destroy all humanity ... what will they do after with only a few of them left ?

You know robots can break ...
Machines always breaks ....
B U T ........ The soul is ETERNAL ;)

It is like playing battle ship with the computer ... Never as fun as with a real person !

[Another1]

OK !

I have just one question.

If the goal is to destroy all humanity ... what will they do after with only a few of them left ?

You know robots can break ... Machines always breaks .... Soul is ETERNAL ;)


If I understand correctly, they just want to get us down to a manageable number, not kill us all. I'm sure this is due to their intense need to be worshiped, compensating for their short comings.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Here are some practical ways to reduce your self as a frequency target. I think its important to do this asap.

since i have been re locating my wifi unit i have had much better sleep.

its all retrospective information meaning i have managed to reverse engineer a lot of what i am able to sense being a sensitive switched on being.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56724-Weapons-of-Mass-Disruption-tech-to-reduce-the-target.


N

[Nat_Lee]

This is so ......

In this situation, if you spread the word you are giving oil to the fire ....
If you don't talk about it, you are part of the crime in a way !
I don't know what to think on this one yet ?
Really ???? I meen ReeeeeeeeEALLY ??? ....

D2MPoqqzwdY

As a second tought:

I prefer staying positive and don't give energy to amplify their plan I guessed ....

;)

Have a great day to all !
Much LOVE <3

[greybeard]

Dr. Simon Atkins on Phoenix Rising Radio

Second interview

Talks about the Fema camps---the bulk purchase of bullets.
Plans for the human race.
This talk is two hours long and not for the faint hearted but towards the end he stresses the importance of developing a loving forgiving nature-- raising your personal spiritual frequency.

I found this and much more on this site
http://www.transients.info/


Chris

The talk here
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/phoenix3333/2013/06/12/special-guest-dr-simon-atkins-ceo-advanced-forecasting-c

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Dr. Simon Atkins on Phoenix Rising Radio

Second interview

Talks about the Fema camps---the bulk purchase of bullets.
Plans for the human race.
This talk is two hours long and not for the faint hearted but towards the end he stresses the importance of developing a loving forgiving nature-- raising your personal spiritual frequency.

I found this and much more on this site
http://www.transients.info/


Chris

The talk here
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/phoenix3333/2013/06/12/special-guest-dr-simon-atkins-ceo-advanced-forecasting-c


I absolutely agree ! we should not give in to fear and hate. However we should educate our selves on not only what is coming but HOW to work around it.

id say its a given whats on the cards , but how we deal with it to survive and flourish can be peaceful.

N

[Nat_Lee]

I think we all need a litle bit of love !
From my own garden and womb !
lol....
JUST For you AVALONIENS !

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/934941_599904976708859_1904921095_n.jpg

[Prodigal Son]

Thanks for this. Posted it on Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, etc.... don't know what else to do other than walking up Broadway with a bullhorn.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

talk is worthless without action.

if each and every one of us on these alternative forums took one day out of " talk " and went and did something it would speak louder than words ever could and we would lead by " example " .

so you can take that to the bank.

its all good and well we endlessly debate against each other on here but thats just ego chest beating really , isnt it ?

get out there and do something.

N

[sigma6]

MAKE VIRAL! This is stunning in it's revelations


NASA WAR DOCUMENT vs HUMANITY FOUND ON NASA SITE...
gARZ-Gttjn4

If this is legitimate, then it looks like someone leaked it on purpose?

Thanks to Richard Hoagland for pointing out that these things can be explained as insiders who are trying to leak information to the public and I think this is what this could be...

... a shout out warning... and the first time I have seen an acknowledgement and government connection to Morgellons. This is spilling ALL THE BEANS. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS AWAY!!??

This is evidence of pre-meditated mass murder no less...

[ThePythonicCow]

MAKE VIRAL! This is stunning in it's revelations


NASA WAR DOCUMENT vs HUMANITY FOUND ON NASA SITE...

I merged this in with the existing thread discussing this document.

[sigma6]

OK !

I have just one question.

If the goal is to destroy all humanity ... what will they do after with only a few of them left ?

You know robots can break ...
Machines always breaks ....
B U T ........ The soul is ETERNAL ;)

It is like playing battle ship with the computer ... Never as fun as with a real person !

a billion people should be enough to live in a world of economic bliss... they will be the happiest slaves in the galaxy... there is enough technology and infrastructure to leverage all that human labour into anything the elite controllers could want...

[Forevernyt]

I would like to bring up two things that I've noticed. I downloaded the PDF and the first thing I noted was the poor quality NASA logo in the upper left corner. If this were an actual NASA document, you would think that they could place a higher quality graphic on an official document?

And secondly, has anyone bothered to look up the alleged author of the essay, Dennis M. Bushnell? I just wiki'd him and he apparently is a force for good, from what I'm reading. His main focus is on the environment and cold fusion.

Dennis M. Bushnell is a NASA scientist and lecturer. As Chief Scientist at NASA Langley Research Center, he is responsible for technical oversight and advanced program formulation. His work is focused mainly on new approaches to environmental issues, in particular to climate issues.[1] Bushnell has received numerous awards for his work.[2] Bushnell has promoted research at NASA into LENR (low energy nuclear reactions, or cold fusion)[3]

also:

External links[edit]

Dennis M. Bushnell, BlueTech Forum
Dennis Bushnell, Imagine Solutions Conference & Initiatives
Dennis M. Bushnell, lifeboat foundation
Dennis Bushnell as guest in The Space Show, aired on April 27, 2008
5 Questions for Dennis M. Bushnell (Chief Scientist at NASA) on the U.S. Space Shuttle Program, July 19, 2010, www.britannica.com
Dennis Bushnell: Conquering Climate Change, The Futurist, May-June, 2010, World Future Society
Dennis Bushnell: Algae: A Panacea Crop?, The Futurist, March-April 2009 Vol. 43, No. 2, World Future Society
Jim Hidges: For Bushnell, Green Is Global, Personal, NASA
Denise Adams: Bushnell on the Environment: 'We should have changed things 20 years ago, NASA

If you ask me, I think the document is a plant.

I'll have to read through it, but something smelly fishy.

[Earth Angel]

from another thread this alien message speaks a lot of the use of cell phones and wireless routers to take us down.....interesting
dkTIhGFc5f8

[Trail]

Not sure if this has been posted before... but this video certainly deserves a lot of attention!!

I tried to 'Like' this video and give it a thumbs up but youtube tells me the function is currently not available, and to try again later.. i tried liking another video and that worked fine.. tried 30 minutes later on this video... it failed.. (you try it?)

This video talks about how the illuminaty always tells us what they are up to before they do it to us. Nasa's website is one of the portals for their releases. Checkout this nasa document that supposedly leaked out.

6Wd-TQvb820

Document about future warfare. (we are their real enemy though)
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf

A must see...

~Trail

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Yeah this is fuxed up if real..which they say it is...hang on I'll go ask zorgon...bbl...

in the meantime enjoy this guys NASA callout:

BJ-71sH-lYM

[Knowrainknowrainbows!]

Please excuse my "botched attempt" to show the video had been posted yesterday on another thread... :o

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NASA WAR DOCUMENT vs HUMANITY FOUND ON NASA SITE...
MAKE VIRAL! This is stunning in it's revelations
NASA WAR DOCUMENT vs HUMANITY FOUND ON NASA SITE...


Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gARZ-Gttjn4

[Bright Garlick]

I am glad to see that this document has been noticed. What I would suggest is that those who really want to know, follow the leads using the simple tools of CONNECTION that share ALL. This story can unravel ALL others. The timing (synchronicity) with the voice of certain recent insiders demands YOUR attention.

Don't be DUMB, follow the leads - if KNOWING matters ! A time of REVSIONING awaits.

http://lifeboat.com/ explore explore explore. Who will safeguard the ignorant against the ego of self and others ???

Often many great threads arise on PA and go unnoticed - slipping back into the mire, while others seemingly profound but a waste of time, scream for attention.

Peace to all.
:peace:

[Bill Ryan]

-------

I'm 98% sure this is a forged document. No academic or scientist makes presentations like this (there are many anomalies, if one looks very carefully). This stuff is also not NASA's province at all, and never has been.

I've not been able to find it on any military site (also looked on http://archive.org in case it'd been deleted. Nothing there.) This does *NOT* mean that the information may not be valid. But I'm as sure as I can be that the presentation has been concocted.




If you ask me, I think the document is a plant.


Yes, I'm almost completely sure that's what it is.

[Billy]

As an alternative thought.
If the powers that be etc wanted to control us by keeping us in fear of their power, what better way than promoting this kind of video through conspiracy web sites--no offence intended to the original poster.

Chris

You are correct Chris. My first reaction to this news was Frustration, Anger then sadness. What hope does humanity have.

I was expressing an energy that feeds those that believe they are in control.

I fell for it.

Energy, we can't live with it and we can't live without it. But we can choose what energy to manifest by our reactions.



Peace

I agree Bill and forevernyt. A planted document in-deed. We wonder by whom it was planted.

peace

[Trail]

2 words: Plausible Deniability

[Bright Garlick]

Hey guys - I appreciate all opinions on the authenticity of the document (especially your opinion Bill !) BUT I would suggest that this document is authentic - although it likely now to have dissapeared off NASA's website. I think it was meant to be found ! If you explore carefully and the first hint is right at the beginning you will find links that affirm the authenticity and content interest of the document. I'd rather not spell out how because that would attract unnecesssary attention. But there are tools that we all know for getting information on people, places organizations etc. The path to The Architecture is there. It just takes a little effort. Don't dismiss this document so easily just because it looks out of place !

[scanner]

Even if this document is a fake , the agenda stays the same . Georgia Guide stones tell us the same info . As does agenda , Russian 2045 .

01hbkh4hXEk

[Peace&Love]

Hi,
I didn't want to respond without learning the subject.
Here is my opinion:
1)This document is NOT fake! Actually it looks like a presentation material that is why there is weird syntax and grammar because its only points for discussion on lecture.
2)The creator of this document/presentation is a scientist specializing in LENR- that is cold fusion energy, i think he is a good guy that actually knows alot about this 'Future' stuff.
3)The purpose of this document was to be thought provoking and a warning sign of 'look how far we have gone...we must do some thinking...population extermination might be too dangerously easy' He even mentions contemplations and reactions to his presentation kind of as 'Hey guys.. this is disturbing...but IT IS out there..."
4)Unlike the PTB agenda which talks about dumming down people, he actually see education as tool for improving wealth of society and in the context of Infortmation Technology more precisely Tele-education (online degree) as an affordable and much more efficient tool than the traditional school system.
5)If anything at all this guy is giving us warnings what might happen if WE don't get a grip of ourselves, but no secret agenda, just plain old 'you humans are gonna extinct yourself before any alien will do".

[good point]

The NASA 'slides' aren't convincing enough for me to vouch for their authenticity. I think that it could be the work of one person, with just enough imagination to understand some warfare on ground units. It should be true, that in the future, there will be less and less of a likeliness of any successive strategy for personal soldiering. Even so, the "fear based - scientific fraudulent information" is exactly that.

[SilentFeathers]

After spending some time in the Pattie Brassard thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62103-Pattie-Brassard-Interview-with-Veritas-Radio-on-The-Event----), I wanted to post this video in relation to that thread.....to show you all a comparison of what is really hard to believe (Brassard thread) and what is more realistic and a bit easier to believe.

In my opinion, this document being discussed in this video is much more believable than what Ms Brassard is talking about.

eN4XICOyRb8

The NASA Document (http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf)

Also check out my thread: Brainwave and Thought Pattern Manipulation - AI Technology And The Invasion Of Our Minds (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55549-Brainwave-and-Thought-Pattern-Manipulation-AI-Technology-And-The-Invasion-Of-Our-Minds) which is closely related to what this video is talking about.

[Soulboy]

This was debunked around 2 months ago (I believe)

[SilentFeathers]

This was debunked around 2 months ago (I believe)

The document is perhaps a fake, but the general message of this messenger is quite believable for the most part IMO.

I personally believe certain things this woman is saying is based on more truth than lies or a wild imagination.

This thread/video has a bit more substance to it than the Brassard thread/video IMO;

[SilentFeathers]

I'm just trying to show a comparison...what's more likely to be true?

A company called Monsanto poisoning us and our food, rogue governments making high tech weapons to use against civilian populations, bankers ruling the world, a secret plan to depopulate the Earth, etc etc or a Sun with a 7 planet solar system passing between the Earth and our Sun???? before the end of this month???? LOL!

[Bill Ryan]

After spending some time in the Pattie Brassard thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62103-Pattie-Brassard-Interview-with-Veritas-Radio-on-The-Event----), I wanted to post this video in relation to that thread.....to show you all a comparison of what is really hard to believe (Brassard thread) and what is more realistic and a bit easier to believe.

In my opinion, this document being discussed in this video is much more believable than what Ms Brassard is talking about.





The content of the NASA document is fairly believable, but in terms of the authenticity of the document, in my strong view it's a fake and was never a real NASA presentation.


The content of Pattie Brassard's claims is harder to believe (inasmuch as there will probably not be a cataclysm in a few week's time -- although 'Planet X' is very probably a real object, and she has taken photos of something) -- but she is authentic, though misguided, and not a cheap hoaxer.

[ThePythonicCow]

After spending some time in the Pattie Brassard thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62103-Pattie-Brassard-Interview-with-Veritas-Radio-on-The-Event----), I wanted to post this video in relation to that thread.....to show you all a comparison of what is really hard to believe (Brassard thread) and what is more realistic and a bit easier to believe.


This was debunked around 2 months ago (I believe)

Yes - this alleged NASA document has been posted quite a few times here over the last couple of months.

Here are three posts by Bill Ryan, doubting the legitimacy of this document called "Future Strategic Issues/Future Warfare [Circa 2025]: The Future is Now":

The Future is NOW - Nasa Document [Vid] -- Post #68 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-NASA-and-TPTW-have-declared-war-on-us-and-there-s-proof-&p=695341&viewfull=1#post695341)
Giant exercise off the east coast of the US. A full blown invasion DRILL -- Post #109 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60476-Giant-exercise-off-the-east-coast-of-the-US.-A-full-blown-invasion-DRILL&p=695138&viewfull=1#post695138)
NASA: The End Of Mankind "Leaked Document" 2013 -- Post #79 (just above) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-NASA-and-TPTW-have-declared-war-on-us-and-there-s-proof-&p=712737&viewfull=1#post712737)

I have merged this new NASA: The End Of Mankind "Leaked Document" 2013 thread with the largest existing thread covering this same NASA video, NASA and TPTW have declared war on us and there's proof!

[SilentFeathers]

After spending some time in the Pattie Brassard thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62103-Pattie-Brassard-Interview-with-Veritas-Radio-on-The-Event----), I wanted to post this video in relation to that thread.....to show you all a comparison of what is really hard to believe (Brassard thread) and what is more realistic and a bit easier to believe.

In my opinion, this document being discussed in this video is much more believable than what Ms Brassard is talking about.





The content of the NASA document is fairly believable, but in terms of the authenticity of the document, in my strong view it's a fake and was never a real NASA presentation.


The content of Pattie Brassard's claims is harder to believe (inasmuch as there will probably not be a cataclysm in a few week's time -- although 'Planet X' is very probably a real object, and she has taken photos of something) -- but she is authentic, though misguided, and not a cheap hoaxer.


I don't believe she is a cheap hoaxer, but I do believe she is completely wrong. Not wrong about the existence of a rogue body capable of entering our solar system, but wrong about where it is now and passing between us and our Sun within the next 2 or 3 weeks.

I believe in the planet X theory and that a planet type of body possibly orbits this system/is a part of this system, passes through and disrupts things, but I don't think it's like the Sitchens story. Comets are great proof that the planet X theory is possible, and ancient myths and legends are also convincing to me to some extent this rogue body has been seen by humans before.

Seen is the magic word for me concerning the planet X thing....it will be seen by the naked eye IMO. With the technology we have today, many will see it with telescopes before the naked eye.

Planet X or any like object of great mass nearing Earth is most likely one thing the pychopathic elite can not hide from the masses, but they will sure spin what is coming the best they can when or if it does come.

I also think many will be posting photos of it and watching it when it is close and approaching....not just one woman out of 7 billion people or so.

I'm not buying Brassards story Bill....it doesn't add up or hold enough punch for me.

[cursichella1]

Interesting, here's what Zetatalk had to say about Pattie Brassard this morning:

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/10ag2013.htm

This is from the weekly Zetatalk Q & A. Several asked if Pattie Brassard is legit and requested info on possible microwaves. Zetatalk said she's just trying to capitalize ($) on Nibiru and Zetatalk message.

btw I haven't formed an opinion on this, just thought some may find the Zetatalk take on it to be interesting (or more confusing). Discernment all around...



The text in italics are questions sent to Nancy Leider and Zetatalk. The bold text is the Zetatalk reply:


ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for August 10, 2013

This recent Veritas interview seems like a 50/50 mix of disinformation and inaccuracies along with truths and regurgitation of ZetaTalk truths without attribution to the Zetas. Nonetheless, in the weeks and months prior to Obama's announcement, this interview on the popular alternative media site of Mel Fabregas seems to merit the Ning's attention. Two related questions though. One, in this interview, Pattie Brassard mentions "microwaves" coming from Nibiru. I do not believe ZetaTalk makes any references to microwave emissions from Nibiru/Planet X. Any truth here on the microwave issue? Further, is this a scare tactic to make 100% of earthlings to believe they are gonna get fried like a TV dinner by Nibiru/Planet X microwaves? Second, was this a truly disgruntled, dying ex-NASA techie or was this a deliberately cloaked "coming out" interview by the cover up team in order to gauge public reaction to various aspects of the upcoming Obama announcement on an object [Nibiru/Planet X] in the inner solar system? [and from another] Here I send you the photos. They come from Mrs Pattie Brassard ex contractor NASA, she says took this photos where object x can be seen surrounded by moons and dust. [and from another] Pattie Brassard, military telling all that she knows about Wormwood, Blue Bonnet etc. I tried to contact the radio show and I got an automated. “We see you're not a subscriber. Send $56 for 6 month subscription and then you can suggest a guest.” [and from another] Planet 4 times the size of Jupiter and sight unseen? Not buying it. [and from another] http://citizenperth.com/DoomSite/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3 by Pattie Brassard Aug 04, 2013 A thermal look at our second sun and Co. We have 2 suns and this picture shows it, and a large Jupiter-like planet, one of the 7 that circle it. The center top bright spot. And the smallest of them is Jupiter. Our main sun is off-screen to the left, and not in this picture. The sun won't be much problem as it stays outside the system. The planets however have orbits that lap-over ours! Now NASA said this was just a simulation. Funny how it matches EXACTLY the system that I borrowed an entire observatory to take some photos of ! This will be swinging by the EARTH and cause some major GRAVITY PROBLEMS!!! It will definitively FORCE-FINISH our pole-swap that's already started! Also, cause MAJOR FLOODING !! Remember Noah? YEP! That was caused by the LAST TIME these visitors came by! Here's the early edition !! This is MARS. And all the incoming planetary bodies are pushing DUST! This is the dust hitting Mars and causing ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS!!! Carrington event from HELL !! [and from another] Note that the photos Patti asserts are hers are from a NASA website, of Sedna. The subscription rate is for Veritas, not directly to Patti, but shows they type of money that can be garnered from subscription broadcasts when the demand is there.

Pattie Brassard is a false front, and not as claimed. A real name with a false résumé, never a NASA subcontractor. Has the extreme silence over the years from NASA employees not indicated the strictures they are under? National security rules, on issues related to Planet X, on issues related to the alien presence, and all who break their contract are severely punished. Whomever is selected to work for NASA has likewise been stringently controlled, with only those inclined to be obsessive rule followers selected. Pattie does not qualify in personality, nor would an ex-NASA associated individual be allowed to blather about what they have learned. Is Snowden allowed to have his own Internet show and FaceBook page?

Pattie is an opportunist who has sensed via trends and news releases that the announcement is close, and is trying to grab the stage and make some money. With $56 per subscriber, at 10,000 subscribers she would pull in half a million dollars, and if the announcement happens soon as she senses it will, she could be fabulously wealthy, or so goes the logic. We warned in 2012 that the circus is about to begin, with old and new false prophets trying to compete with or plagiarize ZetaTalk in their desire to grab the stage.

Pattie is trying to gain acceptability by siding with the ZetaTalk message, or mentioning the Pole Shift ning, but this does not mean what she says is legitimate. Pattie is familiar with the Marshall Masters message, but not the fact that he claims a spec of volcanic dust on a webcam glass enclosure is an object in space. Since this is on the ning, and within ZetaTalk, she has not bothered to get acquainted with the facts. Lazy and money hungry, Pattie will find herself lost in the dust, yet another claimant after money and fame, yet another disinformation artist caught tangled in lies. She is not the first, and won’t be the last. In

[norman]

Yea, OK, but, here we go into the abyss of counter ego.

Pattie seems like a pretty normal confused semi educated serf with a smoking habit to me.

We may have taken her stuff over seriously but let's not fall for the big trick here.

DIVISION. !

I'm quite sure even she didn't have that much malice of intent.

[schneider]

I sent James McCanney an email about Pattie with links to Mel's interview as well as her pictures of this so called Planet X. I don't know if he was able or even wanted to see the interview, but he basically said it seems like a lot of disinformation is being put out so that when it is really time to pay attention and take caution people will think it's just another false claim. Too many people crying wolf. Oops wrong thread

[Bill Ryan]

-- (quoting the 'Zetas', who are claimed to be ETs) --

With $56 per subscriber, at 10,000 subscribers she would pull in half a million dollars, and if the announcement happens soon as she senses it will, she could be fabulously wealthy, or so goes the logic.

Well, The Zetas clearly aren't quite as smart and well-informed as some people think they are. :)

It's Mel Fabregas (as Veritas Radio) that charges $56 for 6 months subscription. Not Pattie!

The day when Avalon depends on the 'Zetas' confirmation for anything will be a sad one. Nancy Lieder (who 'channels' the 'Zetas') is off-the wall deluded. I'd like to say you read it here first, but you probably didn't.

:)

No more Zeta talk, please. We can depend on facts and real logic to get straight about this. Nothing else is needed.

:focus:

[Vitalux]

Hi, all!

I have one question. Is there any proof that the pdf file was published by NASA and was on the NASA site?


Nickolai

It's questions like that, that are going to piss off a lot of people here against you pal.:mmph:

[Nickolai]

Dear Vitalux,

I know. I know. That's why I shut my mouth tightly and just quietly observe.

Nickolai

[Chrononaut]

NASA: The End Of Mankind "Leaked Document" 2013

Quote from ADGUKNEWS:

This is a very important video with Deborah Tavares and Trevor Coppolo discussing the newly revealed NASA FUTURE WARFARE DOCUMENT. People need to be informed at least given the chance to see this information and make the decision themselves to believe and act on it or not. Please circulate far and wide and make sure you download the pdf document.

my thought on this subject:

There are many people who dismiss or ignore information stories of whistleblowers, personally I think is naive and unstable behavior. I mean when the time comes and the guacamole hit the fan what are you going to do, behave like an ostrich with its head in the sand? for those who find this information too far fetched, please make your own research first to find out and learn more about upcoming events.
I really hope this woman is wrong but I doubt it. Furthermore, it is not my intention to sow panic on people.
If this information is genuine then I think this is of great significance to share it with others. In fact I think we should, if we care for each other, our planet and also if we like to insured our offspring an healthy future.
It's all love..

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN4XICOyRb8

More About Trevor Coppola Here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3204131/

More Here: http://www.adguk-blog.com/2013/06/nasa-end-of-mankind-as-we-know-it.html

ADG Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Alien-Disclosure-Group/189249627773146

Follow ADG on Twitter: http://twitter.com/ADG_UK

[pine boy]

Well,that was scairy.:suspicious:

[enfoldedblue]

Hi i can't watch videos. Any chance someone could summarize? also I couldn't find a link to a PDF.

Thanks

[greybeard]

I think this video was on Avalon some time back and debunked.
Chris

[Sunny-side-up]

Real or not this vid has messages that we do need think about!

[Crazy Louie]

real or not? duh - did you hear what said?

[Bright Garlick]

This was tossed around on PA previously but I saw no evidence it was debunked but much comment that it was a hoax (no offense grey beard). Those interested should investigate the author of the presentation. Really do your homework because this is a legitimate document !!!

[sheme]

The future wars document had a thread a little while ago In my opinion it is all genuine.

Future Wars was a presentation by a Nasa Brain pool discussing future war weapons some of these weapons are in use now I believe The Slingatron capable of launching stuff into space without rocket propulsion, I think is being used and may have been used to launch the latest Russian Meteorite on and by Russia.

Other weather weapons are in constant use by various nations it is my belief they are so far down the line with these weapons they cannot stop and all countries involved play roulette with our lives every single day.

I will see if I can find the last thread. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63933-NASA-WAR-The-Future-Is-Now-----

[Chrononaut]

Hi i can't watch videos. Any chance someone could summarize? also I couldn't find a link to a PDF.

Thanks

Hi Enfoldedblue,

Maybe this will help, http://www.stopthecrime.net/nasa.html

Namasté

[Billy]

And here. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-NASA-and-TPTW-have-declared-war-on-us-and-there-s-proof-

peace

[ghostrider]

for those who follow the henoch prophecies , there is a part she speaks about at around the 1 min 27 sec mark , human/cyborgs ... it is said we will be in a war with robotic killing machines that were created for the ptb to keep the masses under their thumb ... sort of a terminator reality ...skynet ...

[Yetti]

Just relax Maia. Pretty much everyone of us is claiming for those trials, we must keep the pressure , keep focus in this to happen , and thanks the universe for listen to us, The more people do this the better and sooner will happen! I AM sure of it !.

[snoop4truth]

“THE NASA WAR DOCUMENT HOAX”
THIS IS A WORLD FAMOUS HOAX BY ROD CLASS' CHIEF CHARLATAN PARTNER IN THE "JUDGE DALE HOAX" AND SEVERAL OTHER ROD CLASS HOAXES". READ IT. IT IS SIMPLY UNBELIEVABLE!

FIRST, SEE HOAX HERE.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22NASA+WAR+DOCUMENT%22+%22DEBORAH+TAVARES%22&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR1f7umLrZAhWqnOAKHYxiAZ0Q_AUIDCgD&biw=1366&bih=651
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22NASA+WAR+DOCUMENT%22&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-wpCKmLrZAhWsT98KHeRBAhkQsAQISg&biw=1366&bih=651
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/290622982177625257/

OSCAR WORTHY VIDEO PERFORMANCES (Note: Jeff Rense is not involved in this hoax. Indeed, he is a victim of this hoax.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vLuGPV-lU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrzEwYlb5CU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXSqgD1KjdY (at 43:30-44:20, 46:00-46:55);
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfG9zljgFh0 (at 7:35-8:00);
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc8UyUy1Cx0&list=PLTQSTGefsTgyBFi-N6aLK7aGdoz08UWiF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuGLNfD2ATI&list=PLTQSTGefsTgyBFi-N6aLK7aGdoz08UWiF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUVxrogwA4s&list=PLTQSTGefsTgyBFi-N6aLK7aGdoz08UWiF&index=3&t=0s

THE NASA WAR DOCUMENT (AS MODIFIED BY THE PROMOTER'S CO-CONSPIRATOR IN THIS HOAX):
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk4hfIVIoT4


THE HOAX:
The promoter of this hoax falsely claims that the “NASA War Document” is a “secret” government document that was "discovered" and "downloaded" (or “leaked”) from a “NASA website” which she claims proves that NASA and/or the United States government are developing and using terrifying, horrific, futuristic, high-tech weapons AGAINST the American people. But, these claims are not so.

THE TRUTH:
The “NASA War Document” is NOT what promoter claims it is, was NEVER on a NASA website, was NEVER “secret” and does NOT reflect existing or future high-tech weapons that NASA and/or the United States government are developing or using AGAINST the American People.

FACT:
Instead, what the promoter calls the “NASA War Document” is simply her HIGHLY-“MODIFIED” version of an original 2001 power point slide show presentation (WITHOUT THE ACCOMPANYING ORAL COMMENTARY THAT EXPLAINED IT). A NASA scientist created the original power point slide show for his use as a "VISUAL AID" for his ORAL presentation AT A 2001 CONVENTION OF AMERICAN MILITARY CONTRACTORS THAT WERE IN THE BUSINESS OF DEVELOPING COUNTERMEASURES TO POTENTIAL, FUTURE, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS THAT OTHER NATIONS COULD THEORETICALLY DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE TO USE AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE (OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS). The purpose of the original power point slide show presentation was to introduce the thousands of American military contractors in attendance at the convention to such potential, future, high-tech weapons that OTHER NATIONS could theoretically develop for use against the American people over the next 25 years (AS DEPICTED IN THE ORIGINAL POWER POINT PRESENTATION) AND TO ENCOURAGE THOSE AMERICAN MILITARY CONTRACTORS IN ATTENDANCE TO DEVELOP COUNTERMEASURES AGAINST THEM. Nowhere in the subject original document does it imply, suggest or state that NASA itself or the United States Government were developing or using any of these horrific, potential, future weapons AGAINST the American people themselves. THAT FRAUDULENT CLAIM IS THE HOAX!

ANALYSIS:
Obviously, the FIRST such military contractors to develop successful COUNTER MEASURES to use AGAINST such theoretical, potential, future, high-tech weapons (as depicted in the original slide show presentation) would be more likely to be awarded profitable government contracts to manufacture them. This is why the thousands of American military contractors in attendance at the convention would have been so interested in this particular subject.

BACKGROUND:
Dennis M. Bushnell was NASA's Chief Scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Langley, Virginia. As NASA's chief scientist, Bushnell was an EXPERT on potential, future, high-tech, military technology that OTHER NATIONS could theoretically develop for use against the American people in the future. For this reason, a TRADE ASSOCIATION of American military contractors (which were in the business of developing COUNTERMEASURES to such threats) asked Bushnell to speak at their upcoming CONVENTION. Bushnell created the original power point slide show presentation for his use at that convention.

The title of the Bushnell’s presentation at the upcoming convention was “FUTURE Strategic Issues/FUTURE Warfare (CIRCA 2025)" (note the YEAR, "2025"). Bushnell first PUBLISHED his original power point slide show presentation TO THE PUBLIC on the “US Department of Defense’s Defense Technical INFORMATION CENTER" website (a PUBLIC website) in July 2001, a month BEFORE the convention at which he was to speak on the subject. (So much for the promoter's “secret” or “leaked” document story.).

Bushnell actually gave his power point slide show presentation on August 14th, 2001 at the “4th Annual Testing and Training FOR READINESS ["having successful COUNTERMEASURES"] Symposium and Exhibition" which was held at the Rosen Centre Hotel (then, the OMNI Rosen Hotel) in Orlando, Florida. The theme of the convention/symposium/exposition was “EMERGING CHALLENGES [potential FUTURE weapons] AND OPPORTUNITIES ["BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES"] (its REAL name)”. The convention was hosted by the National DEFENSE Industrial Association ("NDIA"), a trade association for American military contractors. It was this group that asked Bushnell to appear at the convention and give a presentation on potential, future, high-tech military technology that OTHER NATIONS could theoretically develop for use against the American people in the future (over the next 25 years).

FACT:
PDF metadata (see below) of the promoter’s HIGHLY “MODIFIED” version of the original document indicates that it was actually “CREATED” on “March 27, 2011 (TEN (10) years AFTER Bushnell’s presentation), that it was "CREATED" by the promoter’s co-conspirator in this hoax and that it was “LAST MODIFIED” by the promoter's co-conspirator (means last "CHANGED", “ALTERED” or “RE-WRITTEN”) on January 23, 2013 (TWELVE (12) years after Bushnell’s presentation). The promoter and her co-conspirator made these extensive "MODIFICATIONS" to the original document in order to make the promoter’s HIGHLY "MODIFIED" version FIT THE HOAX they were peddling (“NASA is killing us all with horrific, futuristic, high-tech weapons.”). Not surprisingly, the promoter never disclosed ("revealed") these extensive (AND SECRET) "MODIFICATIONS" to her followers. Needless to say, the truth does not need "MODIFICATION". Only lies need "MODIFICATION".

FACT:
Archive.org (which records everything ever posted online) indicates that Bushnell’s original power point slide presentation was posted in the “PUBLIC DOMAIN” FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE on the “US Department of Defense’s Defense Technical INFORMATION CENTER website" (a PUBLIC website). (So much for the promoter's “secret” document story.). Archive.org indicates that the subject original document WAS NEVER POSTED ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE WEB (including any NASA website). This means that the promoter's claim that the subject document was "discovered and downloaded from a NASA website" IS A LIE intended to INTENTIONALLY DEFRAUD the American people and intended to incite HATRED and VIOLENCE against innocent Americans.

ANALYSIS:
The promoter had very good reason for LYING to the American people about the TRUE SOURCE of the original document. If she truthfully admitted that the original document was downloaded from the PUBLIC website of the “US Department of DEFENSE’S DEFENSE Technical INFORMATION CENTER” (a PUBLIC website), then the original document would not appear to be "secret", nefarious or otherwise part of a "conspiracy" to kill us all. This is because, as a general rule, the government does not usually post written proof of its own conspiracies against its own people on ITS OWN PUBLIC “INFORMATION CENTER” WEBSITES).

CONCLUSION:
Contrary to the promoter's claims, THE "NASA WAR DOCUMENT" DOES NOT REFLECT AN EFFORT ON THE PART OF NASA (OR THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT) TO KILL ALL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH HORRIFIC, FUTURISTIC, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS. To the contrary, the ORIGINAL "NASA WAR DOCUMENT" actually reflects an effort on the part of a single NASA scientist (and thousands of American military contractors) TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM POTENTIAL, FUTURE, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS THAT OTHER NATIONS COULD THEORETICALLY DEVELOP FOR USE AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE (AS DEPICTED IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION), exactly backwards to what the promoter claims in her hoax. The promoter of this hoax knew the truth about the subject original document all along, but nevertheless decided to lie to the American people about it anyway. Sadly, this hoax is but a small part of a much larger pattern of fraud on the part of this same promoter to defraud the American people and to thereby incite HATRED and VIOLENCE against innocent Americans.

SOURCE DOCUMENTS

ARCHIVE.ORG’S RECORDS ON THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT:
https://archive.org/details/FutureStrategicIssuesFutureWarfareCirca2025 (SCROLL DOWN TO BELOW THE WINDOW)

ONLY WEBSITE WHERE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT WAS EVER POSTED (DTIC):
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/

TRADE ASSOCIATION THAT SPONSORED THE SUBJECT CONVENTION (NDIA):
http://www.ndia.org/Pages/default.aspx

RECORD OF THE SUBJECT 2001 NDIA CONFERENCE ON THE DTIC WEBSITE:
http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADM002244

COMPUTER ANALYSIS OF PDF METADATA OF THE PROMOTER’S HIGHLY-“MODIFIED” VERSION OF THE SUBJECT DOCUMENT (Scroll down and read the comments of senior member, “Flamesong” beginning with the comment posted on “26-06-2013, 09:02 PM” and the following comment posted on “26-06-2013, 09:39 PM”):
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=248938&page=2 (NOTE THAT THIS METADATA REVEALS THE REAL IDENTITY OF THE PROMOTER'S CHARLATAN CO-CONSPIRATOR IN THIS HOAX). Note also that the promoter confirms the REAL IDENTITY of her charlatan co-conspirator in this hoax at 43:10-43:20 in the following video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeazE8_Ipk (Remember, at 43:10-43:20).

THE "JUDGE DALE HOAX"
BELOW, THE PROMOTER IS ACTUALLY CAUGHT ON TAPE WHILE ENGAGED IN THE "JUDGE DALE HOAX". In the "Judge DALE Hoax", this promoter and amateur legal theorist, "Rodney DALE Class", disseminated FAKE legal books that revealed FAKE legal information WHICH THEY THEMSELVES ACTUALLY CREATED, but which they fraudulently told the American people were written by an imaginary "retired federal judge" named, "Judge DALE" (which uses Rodney "DALE" Class' middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke on the American people). Jeff Rense is NOT involved in the hoax. Indeed, he is a victim of the hoax.

TRULY OSCAR WORTHY PERFORMANCES!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05o4CpB9I8g&t=260s (A TRULY OSCAR-WORTHY PERFORMANCE AT 2:25-4:00, 5:25-6:15, 9:00-9:20)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTRPZD3_w5k (A TRULY OSCAR-WORTHY PERFORMANCE AT 42:10-49:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKI4zPI504E (A TRULY OSCAR-WORTHY PERFORMANCE AT 7:15-7:55, 27:00-27:55, 31:15-33:10, 45:05-46:00, 52:35-53:45, 54:35-54:50)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dgYbD6fcw8 (A TRULY OSCAR-WORTHY PERFORMANCE AT 34:20-36:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAryrdGenL4 (A TRULY OSCAR-WORTHY PERFORMANCE AT 1:30-1:45)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRnogqeqzxk (A TRULY OSCAR WORTHY PERFORMANCE at 6:20-6:45, 7:10-7:55, 25:55-26:45)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeazE8_Ipk (A TRULY OSCAR WORTHY PERFORMANCE at 51:50-53:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81qlF5v3WY8 (A TRULY OSCAR WORTHY PERFORMANCE at 7:00-7:25)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eei6_4dpK4 (A TRULY OSCAR WORTHY PERFORMANCE at 2:20-2:40).

THE JUDGE "DALE" FORGERIES (BOOKS):
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/THE-GREAT-AMERICAN-ADVENTURE.pdf (NOTE THE WEBMASTER OF THIS WEBSITE);
https://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/the-matrix-and-the-us-constitution-sm-bk-format1.pdf (NOTE THE WEBMASTER OF THIS WEBSITE);
https://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/lawfully-yours-ninth-edition.pdf (SEE LIST OF AUTHORS AT BOTTOM OF 2ND PAGE).


ABOUT THE PROMOTER OF THIS HOAX:
The promoter is Rodney "DALE" Class' partner in the "Judge DALE Hoax" and several other Rod Class hoaxes. She is a well-known, PROFESSIONAL CHARLATAN, HOAXER and SELF-PROMOTER. She does nothing but create, manufacture and publish online hoaxes (her specialty). She has long engaged in a pattern of FORGING FAKE, COUNTERFEIT documents and FRAUDULENTLY attributing those FORGERIES to others (like the federal government or its agencies). When not FORGING her own FAKE, COUNTERFEIT documents for that purpose, she takes documents written by others THAT SHE KNOWS TO BE POLITICAL "FICTION" and FRAUDULENTLY tells her followers that they are REAL documents written by "GOVERNMENT INSIDERS". Like all of Rod Class' claims, all of the claims of this promoter are intended to incite HATED and VIOLENCE against innocent Americans and against the ELECTED representatives of "We the People" and our Republican form of government.

This woman is behind ALL THREE of the "Judge DALE forgeries" (all of which she co-wrote with Rod Class), including "The Matrix And The US Constitution" (2010), The Great American Adventure: Secrets of America" (2012) & "Lawfully Yours" (2014), the "Judge DALE Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "All Government Agencies Are 'Private Entities' [or 'Private Contractors'] Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "Property Into Other Peoples' Names Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "Court Registry Investment System Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "Federal Government Is A Private, For-Profit Corporation Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "B.A.R. Card Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "'Esquire' Is A Title Of Nobility [Royalty] Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "British Accreditation Registry Hoax [B.A.R. Hoax]" (with Rod Class), the "NASA War Document Hoax", the "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars Hoax", the "Report From Iron Mountain Hoax", the "FAKE Jim Traficant Speech Hoax" and numerous other hoaxes, all of which she uses to INTENTIONALLY DEFRAUD the American people.

ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm the promoter. Instead, Snoop4truth exposed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such INTENTIONAL FRAUD inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for the promoter's role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have exposed this information here.

The message to all hoaxers and charlatans? Just tell the truth.

[snoop4truth]

“THE NASA WAR DOCUMENT HOAX”

FIRST, SEE HOAX HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EKGNjOwGFs ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4BN...tureof-war.pdf

THE HOAX: The promoter of this hoax falsely claims that the “NASA War Document” is a “secret” government document that was discovered and downloaded (or “leaked”) from a “NASA website” which she claims proves that NASA and/or the United States government are developing and using terrifying, horrific, futuristic, high-tech weapons AGAINST the American people. But, these claims are not so.

THE TRUTH: The “NASA War Document” is NOT what promoter claims it is, was NEVER on a NASA website, was NEVER “secret” and does NOT reflect existing or future high-tech weapons that NASA and/or the United States government are developing or using AGAINST the American People.

Instead, what the promoter calls the “NASA War Document” is simply her HIGHLY-“MODIFIED” version of an original 2001 power point slide show presentation (WITHOUT THE ACCOMPANYING ORAL COMMENTARY THAT EXPLAINED IT). The original power point slide show presentation was created by a NASA scientist for his use as a "VISUAL AID" for his ORAL presentation AT A 2001 CONVENTION OF MILITARY CONTRACTORS THAT WERE IN THE BUSINESS OF DEVELOPING COUNTERMEASURES TO POTENTIAL, FUTURE, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS THAT OTHER NATIONS COULD THEORETICALLY DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE TO USE AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS. The purpose of the original power point slide show presentation was to introduce the thousands of military contractors in attendance at the convention to potential, future, high-tech weapons that OTHER NATIONS could theoretically develop for use against the American people (AS DEPICTED IN THE ORIGINAL POWER POINT PRESENTATION) AND TO ENCOURAGE THOSE MILITARY CONTRACTORS IN ATTENDANCE TO DEVELOP COUNTERMEASURES AGAINST THEM.

Obviously, the FIRST such military contractors to develop successful COUNTER MEASURES to use AGAINST such theoretical, potential, future, high-tech weapons (as depicted in the original slide show presentation) would be more likely to be awarded profitable government contracts to manufacture them. This is why the thousands of military contractors in attendance at the convention would have been so interested in this particular subject. Nowhere in the subject original document does it imply, suggest or state that NASA itself or the United States Government were developing or using any of these horrific, potential, future weapons AGAINST the American people themselves.

BACKGROUND: The original power point slide show presentation was created by Dennis M. Bushnell, Chief NASA Scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Langley, Virginia. As NASA's chief scientist, Bushnell was an expert on potential, future, military technology that OTHER NATIONS might theoretically develop for use against the American people. For this reason, Bushnell was asked to speak at an upcoming CONVENTION which would be attended by thousands of military contractors who were in the business of developing COUNTERMEASURES to such theoretical, potential, future, high-tech weapons.

The title of the Bushnell’s presentation at the upcoming convention was “FUTURE Strategic Issues/FUTURE Warfare (CIRCA 2025)" (note the YEAR, "2025"). Bushnell first published his original power point slide show presentation TO THE PUBLIC on the “US Department of Defense’s Defense Technical INFORMATION CENTER" website (a PUBLIC website) in July 2001, a month BEFORE the convention at which he was to speak on the subject. (So much for the promoter's “secret” or “leaked” document story.).

Bushnell actually gave his power point slide show presentation on August 14th, 2001 at the “4th Annual Testing and Training FOR READINESS ["having successful COUNTERMEASURES"] Symposium and Exhibition" which was held at the Rosen Centre Hotel (then, the OMNI Rosen Hotel) in Orlando, Florida. The theme of the convention/symposium/exposition was “EMERGING CHALLENGES [potential FUTURE weapons] AND OPPORTUNITIES ["BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES"] (its REAL name)”. The convention was hosted by the National DEFENSE Industrial Association ("NDIA"), a trade association for American military contractors.

PDF metadata (see below) of the promoter’s HIGHLY “MODIFIED” version of the original document indicates that it was “created” on “March 27, 2011 (10 years AFTER Bushnell’s presentation), that it was "created" by the promoter’s co-conspirator and that it was “LAST MODIFIED” (means last "changed", “altered” or “re-written”) on January 23, 2013 (12 years after Bushnell’s presentation). The promoter and her co-conspirator made these extensive "MODIFICATIONS" to the original document in order to make the promoter’s HIGHLY- "MODIFIED" version better fit THE FRAUD that they were peddling (“NASA is killing us all with horrific, high-tech weapons.”). Not surprisingly, the promoter never disclosed ("revealed") these extensive (AND SECRET) "MODIFICATIONS" to her followers. Needless to say, the truth does not need "MODIFICATION". Only lies need "MODIFICATION".

Archive.org (which records everything ever posted online) indicates that Bushnell’s original power point slide presentation was posted in the “PUBLIC DOMAIN” FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE on the “US Department of Defense’s Defense Technical INFORMATION CENTER website" (a PUBLIC website). (So much for the promoter's “secret” document story.). Archive.org indicates that the subject original document WAS NEVER POSTED ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE WEB (including any NASA website).

The promoter had good reason for misleading the American people about the true source of the original document. If she truthfully admitted that the original document was downloaded from the website of the “US Department of DEFENSE’S DEFENSE Technical INFORMATION CENTER” (a PUBLIC website), then the original document would not appear to be "secret", nefarious or otherwise part of a conspiracy. This is because, as a general rule, the government does not usually post written proof of its own conspiracies against its own people on ITS OWN PUBLIC “INFORMATION CENTER” WEBSITES).

CONCLUSION: Contrary to the promoter's claims, THE "NASA WAR DOCUMENT" DOES NOT REFLECT AN EFFORT ON THE PART OF NASA (OR THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT) TO KILL ALL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH HORRIFIC, FUTURISTIC, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS. To the contrary, the ORIGINAL "NASA WAR DOCUMENT" actually reflects an effort on the part of a single NASA scientist (and hundreds of American military contractors) TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM POTENTIAL, FUTURE, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS THAT OTHER NATIONS COULD THEORETICALLY DEVELOP FOR USE AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE (AS DEPICTED IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION), exactly backwards to what the promoter claims in her hoax. The promoter of this hoax knew the truth about the original document all along, but nevertheless decided to lie to the American people about it anyway. Sadly, this hoax is but a small part of a much larger pattern of fraud on the part of this promoter to defraud the American people. See the comments by snoop4truth posted below the following video on "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Bk_YmrK-M&t=4477s (Read comments by Snoop4truth posted below this video.).

SOURCE DOCUMENTS
ARCHIVE.ORG’S RECORDS ON THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT:
https://archive.org/details/FutureSt...rfareCirca2025

ONLY WEBSITE WHERE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT WAS EVER POSTED (DTIC):
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/

TRADE ASSOCIATION THAT SPONSORED THE SUBJECT CONVENTION (NDIA):
http://www.ndia.org/Pages/default.aspx

NDIA CONFERENCE PROCEEDINGS BY YEAR SHOWING THE RECORD OF THE SUBJECT CONVENTION:
(SCROLL DOWN TO YEAR 2001, GO TO 5th ITEM DOWN, SEE THE ENTRY DATED 13-16 2001.).
http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/https://www...YmrK-M&t=4477s

COMPUTER ANALYSIS OF PDF METADATA OF THE PROMOTER’S HIGHLY-“MODIFIED” VERSION OF THE SUBJECT DOCUMENT (Scroll down and read the comments of senior member, “Flamesong” beginning with the comment posted on “26-06-2013, 09:02 PM” and the following comment posted on “26-06-2013, 09:39 PM”):
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthre...=248938&page=2

BELOW, THE PROMOTER IS ACTUALLY CAUGHT ON TAPE WHILE ENGAGED IN THE "JUDGE DALE HOAX". In this hoax, the promoter, her co-conspirator and "Rodney DALE Class" disseminated FAKE legal books that revealed FAKE legal information WHICH THEY THEMSELVES ACTUALLY CREATED, but which they fraudulently told the American people were written by a FAKE "retired federal judge" named, "Judge DALE" (which uses Rodney DALE Class' middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke). Jeff Rense is NOT involved in the hoax. (Do not click on blue numbers below. They link to the wrong video. Instead, go to the following videos FIRST. Then, go to the times indicated below. They are the exact times of the hoax documented therein.).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05o4CpB9I8g&t=260s (Go to this video FIRST, then go to 2:25-11:35)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTRPZD3_w5k (Same as above. 42:10-49:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKI4zPI504E (Same. 3:50-4:30& 7:15-56:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dgYbD6fcw8 (Same. 34:20-36:30)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAryrdGenL4 (Same. 1:30-1:45)

ABOUT THE WOMAN BEHIND THIS HOAX:
The woman behind this hoax is a well-known, PROFESSIONAL CHARLATAN AND HOAXER. She does nothing but create, manufacture and publish online hoaxes (her specialty). She has long engaged in a pattern of FORGING FAKE, COUNTERFEIT documents and FRAUDULENTLY attributing those FORGERIES to others (like the federal government or its agencies). When not FORGING her own FAKE, COUTERFEIT documents for that purpose, she often takes documents written by others THAT SHE KNOWS TO BE POLITICAL "FICTION" and FRAUDULENTLY tells her unsophisticated followers that they are REAL documents written by "GOVERNMENT INSIDERS" who are "IN THE KNOW". All of the claims made by this woman are intended to incite hatred and violence against the ELECTED representatives of "We the People" and our Republican form of government. This woman is behind ALL THREE of the "Judge DALE forgeries" (all of which she co-wrote with Rod Class), including "The Matrix And The US Constitution" (2010), The Great American Adventure: Secrets of America" (2012) & "Lawfully Yours" (2014), the "Judge DALE Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "All Government Agencies Are 'Private Entities' [or 'Private Contractors'] Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "Property Into Other Names Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "Court Registry Investment System Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "Federal Government Is A Private, For-Profit Corporation Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "B.A.R. Card Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "'Esquire' Is AN INHEREITED TITLE For Those Born Of NOBLE BLOOD Hoax" (with Rod Class), the "British Accreditation Registry Hoax [B.A.R. Hoax]" (with Rod Class), the "NASA War Document Hoax", the "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars Hoax", the "Report From Iron Mountain Hoax", the "FAKE Jim Traficant Speech Hoax" and numerous other hoaxes, all of which she uses to INTENTIONALLY DEFRAUD the American people.

ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this hoax to harm the promoter or her co-conspirator in the NASA War Document Hoax. Instead, Snoop4truth exposed this hoax solely to reduce the catastrophic damage that such intentional fraud inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for the promoter's role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have exposed this hoax here.

The message? Just tell the truth.

[Bill Ryan]

“THE NASA WAR DOCUMENT HOAX”

FIRST, SEE HOAX HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EKGNjOwGFs ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4BN...tureof-war.pdf

Yes, it's a hoax. Your post prompted me to merge two threads, and move it all to the proper section. :)

[snoop4truth]

Bill,

Thanks. Rod Class is not the only person manufacturing and peddling these online hoaxes. This woman is another. She is one of the best hoaxers out there. Not surprisingly, Rod Class and this woman actually manufacture and peddle some of their hoaxes together as joint projects. But, the NASA War Document Hoax is NOT one of those joint projects. This woman (in the video) and another woman co-conspirator are behind this particular NASA hoax (Class was not involved in this one.). A careful examination of the links in my comment reveal who the other woman co-conspirator really is.

[CurEus]

Even if it isn't produced by NASA some believe the "controllers" will leak information out through various means as it is part of their code to do so. I woulldn't put anything past those with dark hearts, minds and souls.

I have all the symptoms occasionally.....as described in the video especially sleep disruptions which seem common to everyone now. How would one detect these microwaves when we're inundated daily with WIFI and cell phones ? I thin I may g live in a cave or on my boat.

[snoop4truth]

After spending some time in the Pattie Brassard thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62103-Pattie-Brassard-Interview-with-Veritas-Radio-on-The-Event----), I wanted to post this video in relation to that thread.....to show you all a comparison of what is really hard to believe (Brassard thread) and what is more realistic and a bit easier to believe.

In my opinion, this document being discussed in this video is much more believable than what Ms Brassard is talking about.





The content of the NASA document is fairly believable, but in terms of the authenticity of the document, in my strong view it's a fake and was never a real NASA presentation.


The content of Pattie Brassard's claims is harder to believe (inasmuch as there will probably not be a cataclysm in a few week's time -- although 'Planet X' is very probably a real object, and she has taken photos of something) -- but she is authentic, though misguided, and not a cheap hoaxer.


I don't believe she is a cheap hoaxer, but I do believe she is completely wrong. Not wrong about the existence of a rogue body capable of entering our solar system, but wrong about where it is now and passing between us and our Sun within the next 2 or 3 weeks.

I believe in the planet X theory and that a planet type of body possibly orbits this system/is a part of this system, passes through and disrupts things, but I don't think it's like the Sitchens story. Comets are great proof that the planet X theory is possible, and ancient myths and legends are also convincing to me to some extent this rogue body has been seen by humans before.

Seen is the magic word for me concerning the planet X thing....it will be seen by the naked eye IMO. With the technology we have today, many will see it with telescopes before the naked eye.

Planet X or any like object of great mass nearing Earth is most likely one thing the pychopathic elite can not hide from the masses, but they will sure spin what is coming the best they can when or if it does come.

I also think many will be posting photos of it and watching it when it is close and approaching....not just one woman out of 7 billion people or so.

I'm not buying Brassards story Bill....it doesn't add up or hold enough punch for me.

Hello SilentFeathers,

The video below reveals the truth about Deborah Tavares and the NASA War Document.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZmq_vMcSQ.

For the truth about other claims of Deborah Tavares, click here.

https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showthread.php?130336-The-hoaxes-of-deborah-tavares-(conspiracy-weaponized-weather-fires-depopulation)

All The Best,

Snoop

[palehorse]

Hi all, still a hoax or not?

The video is not online anymore but I found another one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gARZ-Gttjn4 (I believe it is the same one)

First I do not know anything about Deborah Tavares but her face is familiar to me.. ok

Second, I took the time to watch the entire video to have sure I am not writing any BS here, sorry if I do, not the intention.

Third,many of the techies she spoke on that video, do exist and we are seeing it emerge now in our timeline, as i said many not all.

I didn't get what she said so wrong that make it look like a hoax, it seems pretty fair and many of these things are happening right now.

but I still have to learn more about her and how much trust one can put on her, I appreciate those who said she one of the best hoaxers out there (not sure if I read it here anyway).

direct link to the PDF file she talk about: http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf

Here is one of the "dead" links above available on archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210220214944/https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showthread.php?130336-The-hoaxes-of-deborah-tavares-(conspiracy-weaponized-weather-fires-depopulation

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not sure this had been posted … but if not here you go. 😬

Official NASA Documents Confirm Plans for 'Mass Extinction Event' in 2025

Official NASA documents reveal the agency has been preparing for decades to play a leading role in a mass extinction event in 2025 that will lead to the collapse of civilization and the depopulation of the majority of people on planet earth.

During a PowerPoint presentation, NASA’s Chief Scientist Dennis Bushnell outlined plans for a devastating series of inside job terror attacks and biological warfare on US soil against US citizens in 2025 as part of the plot to destroy civilization as we know it.

Alarmingly, many of the details outlined in the NASA PowerPoint presentation have already occurred, indicating that the plans for the mass extinction event are well underway.

https://x.com/tpvsean/status/1828495892711653519/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1828495892711653519&currentTweetUser=tpvsean

[avid]

Link n/a…?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Try this one

https://x.com/tpvsean/status/1828495892711653519?s=52&t=_l4oSOz9VxJTr552MSb2yg

[Michi]

... looks like, it's that one:
1828495892711653519

[Bill Ryan]

At first sight, I think we've seen this before (somewhere on the forum from several years ago!), and if it's the same document, it's definitely a hoax.


Edit to add:

Yes, here it is:
[HOAX] NASA's 'End-of-the-World' document (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60421-HOAX-NASA-s-End-of-the-World-document)


(threads now merged)