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Redstar Kachina
26th June 2013, 09:15
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Snookie
26th June 2013, 13:33
I wonder if this would be related in any way to what Dolores Cannon describes as "the new earth"?
witchy1
26th June 2013, 14:25
This might be of use. I following a couple of independant people on FB who also monitor this information. Torsten recently provided a link to this...a bit above my head, but think it fits here re the axis wobble
Vortex Tectonics: The Primary Factors Which Govern Earth Dynamics: http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthchanges/vortectonics/Votex_Tectonics_Equation.pdf
Chart 104: The Spin Axis & Polar Motion 1900-1998
(sorry cant paste it in.... on page 9 of link)
Some excerpts.....
Whitten was able to demonstrate that large earthquakes were much more likely on the U.S. West Coast when the wobble was at its 6.5 year maximum size. For instance, the historic Alaskan quakes of 1957 and 1964 occurred right on this schedule.....
Any change whatsoever in the location of the spin axis changes as well the location and orientation of the equator. Even a change of one foot in the location of the spin axis requires a change IN THE
ENTIRE SHAPE OF THE EARTH throughout the entire length of the great Longitudinal arcs. Obviously the biggest change in the shape of the Earth must occur in the tropical......
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During the past 50 years geophysicists have learned enough about the substance of the Earth and its dynamics to literally describe the Earth as behaving more like a rotating balloon filled with Jell-O than as a “rock” with a constant, fixed shape. Within this point of view, the centrifugal force of the spinning Earth is sufficient to “force” a change in the actual “ellipsoid” shape of the Earth, NOW, as opposed to later. In other words, changing the location of the spin axis is synonymous with changing the shape of the Earth. They happen simultaneously or near simultaneously. For most of the mass of the Earth, which is molten a few hundred kilometers beneath the surface, such shape shifting poses no resistance, no problem, hence it is unnoticeable and has no consequence. It is mainly the brittle crystallized outer surface which poses resistance and creates some
“lagging”, but probably not much. The progression must move something like this:
move the spin axis slightly, shape-shift the Earth slightly, induce just a little stress in the crystalline shell, crack it just a little, shake the rocks just a bit, scare the mammals all to hell. In other words, the more motion, the more shape shifting, the more stress, the more tectonic activity. Could the mechanism driving earthquakes, volcanoes, and plate tectonics be this simple?....
The occurrence of earthquakes, volcanism, El Nino syndrome, global warming, and the phenomenon of plate tectonics are now explained in a new model of Earth dynamics which provides the ability to predict dangerous periods of peak earthquake activity, the onset of El Nino, and other geological phenomena.
By : Michael Wells Mandeville
Copyright 2000 MWM; Use of copyright to the graphs and charts in this article with attribution to MW Mandeville or MetaSyn Media is hereby released to all news media.
Abstract
In my opinion I think the earth is about to expand hence the earth heating up, sink holes and that start of the massive plate movement out from Portugal. I also believe that the tectonic movements have been caused by the hundreds of underground nuclear tests.....
kersley
26th June 2013, 14:57
I came across this video last night and thought I share it with you all. This guy makes a lot of sense indeed..
Enjoy..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEZMzGp_rs
indigopete
26th June 2013, 16:06
We are actually in the middle of an ongoing pole shift right now as I understand it.
It's been going on for a couple of hundred years and will take about another 2-3 centuries to complete.
As background interest, 24 years ago I was working as a flying instructor on the island of Guernsey near the UK. The runway numbering then (which indicates it's direction on the magnetic compass) was 09-27. I note that it still is today. Plus, the inbound magnetic track for the Guernsey ILS/DME approach for runway 09 is still 090 degrees.
http://www.californiaair.co.uk/Routes/UK/GuernseyEGJB/IACS/ILS09.pdf
So no pole shift there in 24 years (or rather, it hasn't shifted laterally with respect to that longitude. Maybe someone else could check for longitudes of say, 120 degrees east - that would be places like Hong Kong, Bejing and Singapore - or 120 West, such as San Fransisco).
Pete
P.S.. I might submit this as part of my new "self check" series for Avalonians' disinfo filters:
Self Check Economic Collapse Disinfo: A link to the Comex gold vault inventories http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/nymex-delivery-notices.html
Self Check Chemtrail Disinfo: A link to flightradar flight tracker http://www.flightradar24.com/
Self Check Pole Shift Disinfo: (See above)
Self Check Global Coastal Event Disinfo: (Not required - it all is)
Self Check Mass Arrests: (As above)
Self Check Global Warming Disinfo: A link to todays global sea ice coverage where there is nothing much of interest except a horizontal line all the way back to 1979.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg
Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm :boom:
Calz
26th June 2013, 16:23
Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm :boom:
LOL ... truth is what happens magnetically will, in fact, have a dramatic effect on our brains ...
indigopete
26th June 2013, 16:24
Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm :boom:
No, you're quite magnetic enough as you are :cool:
Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm :boom:
No, you're quite magnetic enough as you are :cool:
Awww thanks indigopete...we all are magnetic..:)
LOL ... truth is what happens magnetically will, in fact, have a dramatic effect on our brains ...
Yes, lol thought when I pushed the send button tht it was a bit of jest with some truth to it! So true
Fractalius
26th June 2013, 16:50
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ThePythonicCow
26th June 2013, 18:54
My first experience of someone talking through pole shift, was Gregg Braden. A blast from the past I know, that video with the monster mullet. Detractors spoke of his pseudo science and diagrams that backed up very little. As detractors go.
From memory though, the base frequency of earth and the lowering gravitational field led to a halt in the spinning on the axis, and then either pole shift or rotational reversal. One of the results from this was akin to a reboot or reformat of the mind.
This thread is about a magnetic pole shift, which is possible.
This thread is not about a substantial physical pole shift or reversal, nor a halting or reversing of the earth's spinning, nor a substantial lowering of the gravitational field, which are not possible.
Fractalius
26th June 2013, 19:05
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ghostrider
26th June 2013, 23:13
all one must do is watch where the sun comes up and then goes down , for about a week, and you'll know we are on a wobble and tipping over ...
witchy1
27th June 2013, 08:46
Here is the latest pole shift information from the above people who are independantly tracking this information
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p320x320/998372_10151520660239366_1351163921_n.jpg
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151520660239366&set=a.58929774365.71255.605539365&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf)
onawah
27th June 2013, 10:02
My post #5224 on the Up at the Ranch thread at:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch&p=688446#post688446
is related to this subject.
The assertions in the video posted there (an interview with Drunvalo) contradict Paul's assertion re the possibility of a substantial lowering in the gravitational field when he wrote in his post above:
"This thread is not about a substantial physical pole shift or reversal, nor a halting or reversing of the earth's spinning, nor a substantial lowering of the gravitational field, which are not possible."
Bill Ryan
27th June 2013, 16:06
all one must do is watch where the sun comes up and then goes down , for about a week, and you'll know we are on a wobble and tipping over ...
You're talking about a physical (axis) shift. A magnetic shift is totally different.
The Earth itself does not change its inclination! Only the magnetic field, which is invisible and non-physical (as it were). It's like taking a simple kid's bar magnet and wobbling it around (or completely inverting it). Then imagine that bar magnet inside a spinning ball (the Earth) -- and that's the setup.
http://eqseis.geosc.psu.edu/~cammon/HTML/Classes/IntroQuakes/Notes/Images_specific/bar_magnet.gif
I wonder if this would be related in any way to what Dolores Cannon describes as "the new earth"?
No, Dolores Cannon is talking about a quite different (metaphysical) concept. A magnetic pole shift is a magnetic pole shift.
(But inasmuch as our human bodies are all electromagnetic bio-engines, we, like the whales and the migrating birds, may be thrown off balance in various ways if there were to be sudden big changes in the earth's magnetic field.)
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Separately -- @ Todd:
Do you mean a magnetic pole shift, or a magnetic pole reversal?
To readers: the two are very different. The magnetic poles wander around, fairly slowly, all the time, and this is well-documented and understood. Every hiker knows this, as compass readings on topo maps need to be adjusted accordingly for prevision navigation if the map is several years old.
Magnetic pole reversals -- which occur regularly in geological history -- usually take hundreds, or thousands, of years to complete. If the reversal happened suddenly (as in just a few years), then this might have many consequences to weather, animal and human behavior, geo-events such as earthquakes, and probably much else.
MorningSong
27th June 2013, 18:18
Actually, what witchy1 has posted is a graph of the "Chandler wobble" (not the "shift" although I imagine this data could be helpful in trying to figure out if a sudden abnormalty took place ).... it follows a cycle (the yearly circling wobble getting bigger and then getting smaller over about 14 years (7 out and 7 in)) . I have been following this for years...since I came to know about Mandeville around 2006; witchy1 also mentions and quotes his work in an earlier post. If you (anyone interested) could take the time to take a look, Mandeville did a very lengthy study of the wobble, mostly ending his research in 2007.
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthchanges/gallery/Chandler_Wobble/index.htm
Here's a table showing the wobble phases from 1890 to 2005:
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthchanges/gallery/Chandler_Wobble/pm_xplot_solid_expanded_1890-2006.gif
This is another way of graphing it:
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthchanges/gallery/Chandler_Wobble/wobspiral_all_expanded_1861-2006.gif
..pretty messy, but it gives one the idea of how much the wobble wobbles. :)
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthchanges/gallery/Chandler_Wobble/index.htm#iers_xplot
Witchy1 posted this, which is about a month behind the actual data:
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/images/pole.png
This next graph is more updated and it also has (in red) the predicted next 180-day course the scientists at this site think that the wobbble will take.
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/eop/eopc04/graphs/img_PM_9001.png
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/earthor/polmot/pm.html
This next graph shows where the wobble has been in the past few years...and where the hypothetic magnetic pole is situated (not actually up to date).
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eoppc/eop/eopc01/mean-pole.gif
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/earthor/polmot/pm.html
Unfortunately, this data is not placed on top of a gobal map, so, I, personally, cannot tell where the hypothetical magnetic pole is situated geographically. Any good mappers out there that want to try getting us one? The only indications of geographic location is given by the x and y axes....
As one might notice, we are finishing up a "minimim" end of a new cycle ( following Mandeville's research) very similar to the minimim in 2005-2006. That means that the wobble has "tightened up" it's circle and is ready to swing back out into a wider yearly circle... around what could be hypothesized as where the actual magnetic pole is.
I hope this makes some sense and will help us reach a logical end.
Edit add on: The wobble has my curiosity as to how it effects the seasons... but right now, that thought might be a bit off-topic. I can certainly expect it to have an effect on the jet stream.
Edit no. 2: Mandeville wrote the book "The Coming Economic Collapse of 2006" basing his prevision on the wobble cycles and the sunspot cycles. He wasn't too far off the timeline... maybe Todd has his foot in a door, too.
Wow thanks morningsong... the second graph 1861-06 Earths Wobble....the wobble appears to tighten up over time? The lines all crooked and off appear to be in 1800's and as time has gone by, not as unstable, but more stable...
Idk perhaps this is just the way the image is perceived and not whts actually happening?
MorningSong
28th June 2013, 08:58
CD7, what I would assume is that the data from the late 1800's and early 1900's is few and far between and probably not that precise...thus the wobble looks pretty unstable.
Rather, what I see is that the wobble has, yes, "tightened up", i.e. it's amplitude (total cyclical tilt) has decreased over the years.
I ask myself, does this mean that the wobble is actually decreasing, and will the Earth eventually stop wobbling causing an end of the precession? Or like a spinning top that is losing momentum, will it (the spinning top=the Earth) eventually fall over (causing what has been called a "physical polar shift"?
Fractalius
28th June 2013, 09:26
Apparently, a physical polar shift is not possible lol :-p
MorningSong
28th June 2013, 11:48
Apparent to whom, may I ask?..I won't rule out that which I don't know, what might be possible or impossible, but I feel that a physical pole shift is very improbable.
Fractalius
28th June 2013, 20:45
Oh Paul the Administrator says so and Todd Hathaway agrees
And yes I am being facestious.
I don't think anyone can be so absolute to say "impossible, your choice of improbable is more appropriate. Yet we have evidence of it possibly happening. I find the vacuum of this thread a tad unsettling and irresponsible
ANYTHING is always possible. Especially when we don't know anything about anything.
If theres a painting and we only know/see one brush stroke of the whole entire painting. Then we argue about the brush stroke and wht it is and what it will be, then another brush stroke is revealed. So then more arguing occurs of wht it is and wht it will be.
Well ANYTHING is possible when the whole painting is uncovered and all jaws drop because we HAD NO CLUE.
MorningSong
30th June 2013, 20:47
Word's getting out about the "cycles" tying Earth changes and space weather to the human events on the planet:
See the thread and link here at "More Cycles":
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60649-More-cycles&p=695369&viewfull=1#post695369
onawah
30th June 2013, 22:40
I don't remember what book I read about this in, perhaps it was one of Velikovsky's, but there was an explanation about something which had previously been one of those scientific mysteries.
It had to do with inexplicable phenomena such as animal bodies found flash frozen in glaciers with green vegetation still in their stomachs.
I can't remember what caused the catastrophe which the author claimed caused the inexplicable phenomena,, but I was reminded of it when I listened to Drunvalo's interview.
He talks about what would happen if there is a dramatic loss of Earth's magnetic field (which he said is dropping now).
According to the scientific studies he said he had seen, in a zero magnetic field, the rock foundation of the continents would basically liquify, and so the continents would be very mobile until the magnetic field was restored.
If that has ever happened before, then it could by an explanation as to why the frozen animals were found with green vegetation in their stomachs.
They might have been on a continent which had previously been in position on the Earth's surface to get a lot of sunlight, but was suddenly moved to a freezing climate which got very little.
4Sq-S_rLy-g
There does seem to be evidence of a drop in the magnetic field:
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/?s=magnetic+field+weakening
onawah
30th June 2013, 23:00
I found the book I was referring to, and it is one of Velikovsky's, entitled Earth in Upheaval.
His theories of catastrophes in Earth's history had to do with changes caused by movements of the bodies in the solar system, and at this Wikipedia link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky
there was this:"Of all the strands of his work, Velikovsky published least on his belief that electromagnetism plays a role in orbital mechanics. Although he appears to have retreated from the propositions in his 1946 monograph Cosmos without Gravitation, no such retreat is apparent in Stargazers and Gravediggers.[27] Cosmos without Gravitation, which Velikovsky placed in university libraries and sent to scientists, is a probable catalyst for the hostile response of astronomers and physicists to his later claims about astronomy.[28] However, other Velikovskian enthusiasts such as Ralph Juergens (dec.), Earl Milton (dec.), Wal Thornhill, and Donald E. Scott have claimed that stars are powered not by internal nuclear fusion, but by galactic-scale electrical discharge currents. Such ideas do not find support in the conventional literature and are rejected as pseudoscience by the scientific community."
But the theories about the electric universe such as James MacCanney and Nassim Haramein are putting forward are gaining more acceptance now.
The following is from:
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/earths-weather-descends-into-chaos-as-magnetic-field-strength-weakens/
"Earth’s weather descends into chaos as magnetic field strength weakens
Posted on December 23, 2010 by The Extinction Protocol
Earth's magnetic field protects all life on Earth by shielding the planet from dangerous solar and cosmic radiation. It even creates a polarity field that repels other large bodies from crashing into our planet; so what happens when it disappears?
December 23, 2010 – AUSTRALIA – The weather on planet Earth is becoming more chaotic- its vital atmospheric life- regulating systems which make life habitable on the planet are failing one by one. Every planetary climatic system is in some degree in disarray- El Nino, La Nina, the Artic Oscillation, the Intertropical Convergence Zone, the Jet Stream. Extreme weather events are increasing in both severity and intensity across the globe. In August of 2010, Pakistan was ravaged by the worst flooding in the country’s history- a full on-fifth of the country was underwater. Colombia’s flood story is eerily similar, and so was Eastern Europe’s. While the Northern hemisphere baked in a record heat-wave which spanned the globe from Japan to the Caribbean; Argentina, Boliva, Peru saw some of the harshest winter conditions in their countries’ history.
Earth’s magnetic field is weakening. The shield has been exhibiting convulsive patterns of irregularity during episodes of global tremors which appears to be rising in intensity and frequency acoss the planet. National Geographic said, “Earth’s magnetic field is fading. Today it is about 10 percent weaker than it was when German mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss started keeping tabs on it in 1845, scientists say. If the trend continues, the field may collapse altogether and then reverse. Compasses would point south instead of north.”
Lifebringer
1st July 2013, 00:54
Is it possible for one of the planets in Nibiru's system to have an attraction pole facing our pole visa north/south and draw Earth in an orbit?
I was thinking like a tow truck to the other side?LOL
If the planet's broke and in need of repair, who else but God and the Creator, to do just that?
WaveRider
1st July 2013, 04:57
I was reading up on this thread and thought it may help others to determin the names of the 3 polls to understand a little bit better even tho you have described it very good. A short vid, I can remove it if you like. Just let me know :)
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onawah
1st July 2013, 05:18
I think there are whole websites devoted to ideas like that, Lifebringer.
Is it possible for one of the planets in Nibiru's system to have an attraction pole facing our pole visa north/south and draw Earth in an orbit?
I was thinking like a tow truck to the other side?LOL
I know this will not go over with a lot of people, but I'm going to jump in here even so because I think it's fascinating.
In the interview with Drunvalo, he said that scientists are concerned because the magnetic field is weakening much faster than they had originally thought it would.
The Mayans think it will reach it's lowest point sometime between now and 2016, according to Drunvalo, because the pace of the process is increasing exponentially.
It's easy to dismiss what the Mayans say if you have a Western mindset, since they offer no scientific proof, and have been so reticent about their reasoning.
But they and the Hopi (who were actually also Mayans) have been spot on about a lot of things that science has ignored, but later discovered was at least somewhat based on scientific fact.
Such as their prediction (which Mayan elder Don Alejandro revealed) that there would be 3 days of darkness during our transition from a yellow to a white star.
Some time after he went public with that, there was a report on a study in which a star was observed doing just that, a yellow sun transforming to a white sun!
Alejandro and Drunvalo both said that it would cause dramatic earth changes if it happens here, but that the closer our connection to the Earth, the easier it will be, and that it is actually the way that the planet will jump to a higher dimensional vibration.
Nanoo Nanoo
8th July 2013, 01:12
So if north and south shift does east and west ? if so a muslim brother of a high order may have the information you require.
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Redstar Kachina
24th August 2013, 13:19
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Spike
26th August 2013, 05:56
If the suns magnetic poles flip then ours will too the whole 11 year thing is bull **** 2003 nov 3 or 4th was stronger then 2001 and 2012 so cut the bull. The sky will look like when you put a metal bar across two battier terminals lots of static and arcs. You know if the ice caps reach a critical mass melting point and fresh water goes into the ocean then all the streams switching can also create a magnetic pole switch. Bottom line is
melting of salt creates electricity haarps all around the world could do it then nasa blames it on the sun. I'll tell you what take some tin foil wrap a fully charged gps unit until the power goes out. Take it out if the gps is working but no lights then you just caught the lie if im wrong it was still a fun experiment. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil the blind monkeys lol :)
Limor Wolf
12th January 2015, 20:29
An interesting reference by a scientific whistleblower with regards to a potential (non physical) magnetic pole shift derive from the decrease in the magnetic field. This is delivered by Linda Moulton Howe, and according to her there is something wrong with earth's core.
From the video -
"Another fundemental question that is being raised in many Science Papers now, the magnetic field of our planet earth indicates that the earth magnetic field has decreased ten times faster than normal just in the first six months of 2014.."
What is important here, because it may or may not be related to all the booms, metalic sounds etc, is that a new research in volcanic ash in Italy, that has been done by an Italian scientist working with Paul Renee, he is a PHD professor of earth and planetary sciences and he is a director of the Berkeley Geo-choronology center at EC Berkeley. And they did a study which was published a couple of months ago, that when they go back in the ash which is a very good record of Magnetic field changes, where there's been layers of undisturbed Lava ash, that's what geo - physicists want to go into .. it did this up and down magnetic field strength of the earth change for a hundred years and then came the big change when the north pole and the south pole switched their magnetic polarity. And it's been north in the Arctic and south in the antarctic for 786,000 years. It is possible we are in the century when it is finally going to change and the north is going to be in the south and the south in the north.. we are long over due to one of those Magnetic earth changes.. there could be a lot of problems with birds, there could be a lot of problems with marine animals, nobody knows what happens.
When the magnetic field of our planet which is a great protector weakens, more cosmic rays, more solar energy particles gets to the surface of the earth, than when the magnetic field is normal or stronger. Well, that have some impact.. there is a build up of the polarity on the electrons and when they finally get to a point that there is enough of them in this build- up, it's timing is mysterious, then there will be this change.
There are mysteries around us, one of the greatest one is that we are on a dynamic planet with a dynamic core and it is full of unknowns and we are at a century where it seems that at every level the core of the earth appears to be changing. There are all kinds of strange phenomena, I think this is a fair statement - it is unprecedented."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BFS7oV7uvA
Bill has provided a very good explanation in a previous post -
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60494-Magnetic-Pole-Shift-Discussion&p=694171&viewfull=1#post694171
chancy
16th May 2017, 20:51
Hello Everyone:
Get ready for the earth's magnetic field to shift. Sometime that's for sure.
chancy
Link:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/earth-magnetic-field-flip-giant-121100003.html
Article:
Earth’s Magnetic Field Is about to Flip—and a ‘Giant Lava Lamp’ in Earth’s Core Is Driving Force
[Newsweek]
Paula Koelemeijer
NewsweekMay 16, 2017
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Earth’s Magnetic Field Is about to Flip—and a ‘Giant Lava Lamp’ in Earth’s Core Is Driving Force
This article was originally published on The Conversation. Read the original article.
If you could travel back in time 41,000 years to the last ice age, your compass would point south instead of north. That’s because for a period of a few hundred years, the Earth’s magnetic field was reversed. These reversals have happpened repeatedly over the planet’s history, sometimes lasting hundreds of thousands of years. We know this from the way it affects the formation of magnetic minerals, that we can now study on the Earth’s surface.
Several ideas exist to explain why magnetic field reversals happen. One of these just became more plausible. My colleagues and I discovered that regions on top of the Earth’s core could behave like giant lava lamps, with blobs of rock periodically rising and falling deep inside our planet. This could affect its magnetic field and cause it to flip. The way we made this discovery was by studying signals from some of the world’s most destructive earthquakes.
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Around 3,000km (1,900 miles) below our feet—270 times further down than the deepest part of the ocean—is the start of the Earth’s core, a liquid sphere of mostly molten iron and nickel. At this boundary between the core and the rocky mantle above, the temperature is almost 4,000 degrees Celsius (7,200 degrees Fahrenheit), similar to that on the surface of a star, with a pressure more than 1.3 million times that at the Earth’s surface.
On the mantle side of this boundary, solid rock gradually flows over millions of years, driving the plate tectonics that cause continents to move and change shape. On the core side, fluid, magnetic iron swirls vigorously, creating and sustaining the Earth’s magnetic field that protects the planet from the radiation of space that would otherwise strip away our atmosphere.
Because it is so far underground, the main way we can study the core-mantle boundary is by looking at the seismic signals generated by earthquakes. Using information about the shape and speed of seismic waves, we can work out what the part of the planet they have travelled through to reach us is like. After a particularly large earthquake, the whole planet vibrates like a ringing bell, and measuring these oscillations in different places can tell us how the structure varies within the planet.
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Nasa image showing Earth's interior. Scientists propose the core acts as a giant lava lamp, influencing the planet's magnetic field.
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In this way, we know there are two large regions at the top of the core where seismic waves travel more slowly than in surrounding areas. Each region is so large that it would be 100 times taller than Mount Everest if it were on the surface of the planet. These regions, termed large-low-velocity-provinces or more often just "blobs," have a significant impact on the dynamics of the mantle. They also influence how the core cools, which alters the flow in the outer core.
Several particularly destructive earthquakes over recent decades have enabled us to measure a special kind of seismic oscillations that travel along the core-mantle boundary, known as Stoneley modes. Our most recent research on these modes shows that the two blobs on top of the core have a lower density compared to the surrounding material. This suggests that material is actively rising up towards the surface, consistent with other geophysical observations.
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Aurora Borealis from space. Aurorae are caused by the interaction of particles in the solar wind with Earth's magnetic field.
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These regions might be less dense simply because they are hotter. But an exciting alternative possibility is that the chemical composition of these parts of the mantle cause them to behave like the blobs in a lava lamp. This would mean they heat up and periodically rise towards the surface, before cooling and splashing back down on the core.
Such behaviour would change the way in which heat is extracted from the core’s surface over millions of years. And this could explain why the Earth’s magnetic field sometimes reverses. The fact that the field has changed so many times in the Earth’s history suggests that the internal structure we know today may also have changed.
We know the core is covered with a landscape of mountains and valleys like the Earth’s surface. By using more data from Earth oscillations to study this topography, we will be able to produce more detailed maps of the core that will give us a much better understanding of what is going on deep below our feet.
Paula Koelemeijer is a Postdoctoral Fellow in Global Seismology at the University of Oxford
CurEus
17th May 2017, 04:32
I came across this video last night and thought I share it with you all. This guy makes a lot of sense indeed..
Enjoy..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEZMzGp_rs
It's marked private!
Note from Bill: 'last night' was 25 June, 2013. :)
CurEus
17th May 2017, 04:46
That would be "earth crustal displacement" a theory Einstein supported as possible. I believe the theory is that the surface of the Earth floating on lava is like an orange with a very loose peel/skin.
If something like a very large celestial body whips past us it could grab one of our poles and whip us North or South by 30 degrees or more. Some suggest this is why we have 5 extra days in our "new calendar" and why we are tilted on our axis. Or perhaps how mammoths froze with flowers in their mouth....instant deep freeze! Ideally Canada moves to the Equator !
Bill Ryan
1st February 2018, 12:45
Hello Everyone:
Get ready for the earth's magnetic field to shift. Sometime that's for sure.
Yep.
From Zero Hedge, today:
https://zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/earths-magnetic-field-shifting-poles-may-flip-could-get-bad
The Earth's Magnetic Field Is Shifting, Poles May Flip: "This Could Get Bad"
"The shield that protects the Earth from solar radiation is under attack from within. We can’t prevent it, but we ought to prepare..." is the ominous sub-headline of a worrisome new report that shows scientists (https://undark.org/article/books-alanna-mitchell-spinning-magnet/) around the world fearing that the earth's magnetic field is shifting, with potentially disastrous consequences for mankind.
https://undark.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/02/Polar_Wander_1965reduced.gif
"When next the poles change places, the consequences for the electrical and electronic infrastructure that runs civilization will be dire. The question is when that will happen."
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/20180131_poles1.jpg
As SHTFplan.com's Mac Slavo notes (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/earths-poles-show-signs-of-flipping-widespread-grid-failures-imminent_01312018), scientists from the University of Colorado in Boulder are sounding the alarm that the Earth’s magnetic poles are showing signs of reversing. Although the pole reversal, in and of itself, isn’t unprecedented, the solar winds that would take out the power grid and make parts of the globe uninhabitable could cause widespread disasters.
The Earth has a fierce molten core that generates a magnetic field capable of defending our planet against devastating solar winds. This magnetic field is vital to life (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5334421/Earths-magnetic-poles-signs-FLIP.html) on Earth and has weakened by 15 percent over the last 200 years. This protective field acts as a shield against harmful solar radiation and extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism (http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/31/earths-magnetic-poles-flip-signs-already-7276394/) affects everything from global communication to power grids.
Historically, Earth’s North and South magnetic poles have flipped every 200,000 or 300,000 years. However, the last flip was about 780,000 years ago, meaning our planet is well overdue. The latest satellite data, from the European Space Agency’s Swarm trio which monitors the Earth’s magnetic field, suggest a pole flip may be imminent. (http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/Swarm/Unravelling_Earth_s_magnetic_field)
The satellites allow researchers to study changes building at the Earth’s core, where the magnetic field is generated. Their observations suggest molten iron and nickel are draining the energy out of the Earth’s core near where the magnetic field is generated. While scientists aren’t sure why exactly this happens, they describe it as a “restless activity” that suggests the magnetic field is preparing to flip.
https://undark.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/02/F_1900_2020reduced.gif
The signs of the Earth’s poles reversing are also apparent to Daniel Baker, who says this would devastate the power grid. If a switch happens, we would likely be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone (https://futurism.com/earths-magnetic-poles-overdue-switch/) layer. In a new report, Baker, (https://www.amazon.com/Spinning-Magnet-Electromagnetic-Created-World/dp/110198516X)who is the director of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado in Boulder, claims if this reversal happens, it is likely to render some areas of the planet “uninhabitable” by knocking out power grids. (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/secret-fema-report-warns-of-major-solar-storms-significant-power-grid-collapses-may-occur-could-require-4-to-10-years-to-fully-restore_07072017)
Baker’s comments were made in an in-depth Undark (https://undark.org/article/books-alanna-mitchell-spinning-magnet/)report written by Alanna Mitchell, (https://undark.org/article/books-alanna-mitchell-spinning-magnet/) who has a new book about the topic titled “The Spinning Magnet: The Electromagnetic Force that Created the Modern World and Could Destroy It.”
“The dangers: devastating streams of particles from the sun, galactic cosmic rays, and enhanced ultraviolet B rays from a radiation-damaged ozone layer, to name just a few of the invisible forces that could harm or kill living creatures,” Michelle writes.
“This is serious business,” Richard Holme, Professor of Earth, Ocean, and Ecological Sciences at Liverpool University told MailOnline. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5334421/Earths-magnetic-poles-signs-FLIP.html)
“Imagine for a moment your electrical power supply was knocked out for a few months – very little works without electricity these days.”
"No lights. No computers. No cellphones. Even flushing a toilet or filling a car’s gas tank would be impossible. And that’s just for starters."
Researchers predict that in the event of a flip, every year a hundred thousand people would die from the increased levels of space radiation. Radiation at ground level would increase so much that some estimates suggest overall exposure to cosmic radiation would double causing more deaths from cancer.
“Radiation could be 3-5 times greater than that from the man-made ozone holes. Furthermore, the ozone holes would be larger and longer-lived,” said D. Colin Forsyth from the Mullard Space Science Laboratory at UCL.
Nick Matkin
1st February 2018, 13:12
That all sounds very scary. But is there any evidence that 'imminent' means within a few years, or has that word been taken out of context when 'imminent' really means gradually in the next few hundred/thousand years?
Bill Ryan
1st February 2018, 13:54
That all sounds very scary. But is there any evidence that 'imminent' means within a few years, or has that word been taken out of context when 'imminent' really means gradually in the next few hundred/thousand years?
Right. To balance all this, here's a more measured article, very easy to digest (of course!), published yesterday by National Geographic. (That great bastion of accurate information and perspective!)
Note the use of the term GEOLOGICALLY imminent. That means quite something else.
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/earth-magnetic-field-flip-north-south-poles-science
No, We're Not All Doomed by Earth's Magnetic Field Flip.
Many times over our planet’s history, Earth (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/solar-system/earth/)’s magnetic poles have reversed, meaning that sometimes a compass pointing north will be aimed at Antarctica rather than the Arctic. This might sound strange, but it’s a relatively predictable quirk (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/strange-facts-about-earth-one-strange-rock-will-smith-science/). Powered by the machinations of the planet’s spinning iron core, this process of geomagnetic reversal has been doing its thing without much fanfare for eons.
That is, until this week, when a book excerpt describing the phenomenon appeared online (https://undark.org/article/books-alanna-mitchell-spinning-magnet/). Shortly afterward, numerous websites began trumpeting the doomsday around the corner, a geomagnetic apocalypse in which tumors run rampant, satellites fall from the sky, and life on Earth will cease to exist as we know it.
True, life on Earth almost certainly will be different than it is today in multiple thousands of years. But will these polar acrobatics have much to do with that?
First things first: Are we all going to die?
Yes.
Wait, what!
We are all going to die, eventually. But chances are that we will not immediately — or even proximally — perish when Earth’s next geomagnetic reversal occurs.
Fine. So what is a geomagnetic reversal?
If geologic history repeats itself, Earth’s magnetic poles should eventually swap places. This much is undeniable. Based on the magnetic fingerprints locked into ancient rocks (https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-poleReversal.html), we know that over the last 20 million years, magnetic north and south have flipped roughly every 200,000 to 300,000 years (this rate has not been constant over the planet’s lifetime, though). The last of these major reversals occurred about 780,000 years ago, although the Poles do wander around in between these larger flips. (What’s more, climate change seems to be shifting Earth’s geographic poles (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160408-climate-change-shifts-earth-poles-water-loss/).)
That means we’re a bit overdue for a total reversal, and some data do, in fact, suggest that a geomagnetic reversal is geologically imminent. But this does not mean a polar flip-flop is going to happen tomorrow, or even any time soon, and we’d put good money on North still being in the Arctic for a while — although neither we nor anyone else knows when the next total reversal will actually happen.
OK. But if it happens soon, won’t that be bad?
Also unclear. Scientists estimate that past polar flips have been rather sluggish, with north and south migrating to opposite positions over thousands of years (https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/29dec_magneticfield/). This is both good and bad if you’re concerned about how a geomagnetic reversal will affect life on Earth.
The sluggish polar meander is good, because it means we have time to prepare and can do our best to ameliorate any unpleasant effects before they get really unpleasant. But it’s bad, because our planet’s magnetic field helps shield us from damaging solar and cosmic radiation, and a protracted flip means Earth might be slightly less protected from harmful space rays for longer than we would like.
It’s also not very dramatic, because it means you won’t suddenly wake up and find out that your smartphone thinks Santa’s workshop is in the Southern Hemisphere.
Bummer, that sounds boring. So what will we actually notice?
The only major, noticeable effect that’s guaranteed to occur when the polar flop is finished is that your compass needle will tell you that North is in Antarctica and South is somewhere near Canada. This will make the names of the American continents temporarily confusing (at least, on a geologic time scale) but it’ll make for a good story in classrooms.
Another interesting consequence will be that animals that use Earth’s magnetic field for navigation — including birds, salmon, and sea turtles (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/01/150115-loggerheads-sea-turtles-navigation-magnetic-field-science/) — could get lost during their routine journeys. Eventually they will sort this out, and all other things being equal, life will go on. Lots of doomsday prophets have tried to equate geomagnetic flips with mass extinctions, but the data just aren’t there.
So there’s nothing at all to worry about?
Not exactly. It’s true that when the poles do reverse, Earth’s magnetic field could get weaker (https://theconversation.com/why-the-earths-magnetic-poles-could-be-about-to-swap-places-and-how-it-would-affect-us-71910) — but its strength is already quite variable, so that’s not necessarily unusual, and there’s no indication it will vanish entirely, according to NASA (https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-poleReversal.html). Why? Because it never has.
AutumnW
1st February 2018, 20:27
Thank you so much for the update. I followed this for awhile and had forgotten about it until now...so this is great info!😀
The Moss Trooper
1st February 2018, 20:44
We should all be alright, right?
I mean, NASA solved the problem of shielding humans and tech from the devastating cosmic radiation in the '60's did they not...... When they sent that tin can to the moon and back, several times, almost 60 years ago.
(sarcasm off)
Foxie Loxie
1st February 2018, 22:43
:ROFL::ROFL: Too funny!!
Nick Matkin
2nd February 2018, 09:32
Looking back through this thread it's clear one or two people are expressing a significant misunderstanding of the known facts.
For the record:
We know the strength earth's magnetic field varies. At the moment it appears to be reducing.
We know the magnetic poles wander, the rate of this wandering waxes and wanes.
We know the earth's magnetic poles flip every few hundred thousand years. Once started (if it ever really stops) no-one knows how long this takes, shortest estimation I believe is decades. Maybe centuries or longer. Almost certainly not in days!
When this does start to happen the hypothesis is that the magnetic poles don't slowly drift in opposite directions, but break up into numerous north/south poles across the earth. The South Atlantic anomaly may be how this starts - or maybe not.
The sun's magnetic poles flip every 11 years approximately, so some suggest that a solar cycle is not really nine to 12 years, but twice that if you consider the sun's poles flipping for a complete cycle.
Hands up anyone who has had solar activity impact on their daily lives during say the past 40 years? Or noticed solar activity even existed - apart from tabloid and ill-informed TV news hype?
Again it is perhaps worth remembering that many of these observations are conducted by well equipped amateurs. Not just NASA! There are many hobbies (LF, MF, HF, VHF radio communication in particular) where all these changes have noticeable effects, but not to the man-in-the-street. Nothing particularly weird has been happening regarding solar or geomagnetic activity - the appropriate forums would be seriously pre-occupied by it if this were the case. (OK, this solar cycle was unusually slow to start and had a low sunspot peak, but only compared to accurate observation in the past couple of centuries. So in fact this might be what's the long-term 'normal'.)
It's true that accurate observations are relatively recent and we don't really know what much longer, more subtle terrestrial or solar cycles may exist. Whatever they are, they appear not to have had catastrophic impacts on life here; those seem to have come from objects hitting us from space or massive geological activity from just below the earth's crust.
Nevertheless, what we may call unusual solar or geomagnetic activity would not have affected the pre-industrial age. But for us now it could range from inconvenience to chaos, like another Carrington Event. But again, we have no idea how often one of those events, if blasted into our direction, might happen.
The point is, there is no evidence of anything imminent being 'hushed up' by The Powers That Be. I hope this helps counteract the fear porn...
Wind
10th March 2018, 15:21
W_uiNwoSZu4
Hervé
10th March 2018, 17:03
... ^^^ ...
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_uiNwoSZu4
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Regarding the Carolina Bays: Carolina Bays: Solved (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95616-Carolina-Bays-Solved)
What's missing in their puzzle pieces is what's the clock/chronometer that ties it all to the precession of the Equinoxes: The Solar system as a binary star system (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656632&viewfull=1#post656632).
Because, then, it also brings in "The Electrical Universe" component (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101830-Was-SATURN-our-sun&p=1209840&viewfull=1#post1209840) as an additional piece for the triggering of magnetic polar inversions, never mind the accompanying volleys of meteorites pummelings (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650).
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2018, 06:35
What's missing in their puzzle pieces is what's the clock/chronometer that ties it all to the precession of the Equinoxes: The Solar system as a binary star system (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656632&viewfull=1#post656632).
Because, then, it also brings in "The Electrical Universe" component (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101830-Was-SATURN-our-sun&p=1209840&viewfull=1#post1209840) as an additional piece for the triggering of magnetic polar inversions, never mind the accompanying volleys of meteorites pummelings (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650).
I'm not sure what you're saying here, Hervé. Is this evidence for, or against, meteor impact, magnetic polar inversions, the electric universe, and/or some combination, causation or correlation thereof ?
Hervé
12th March 2018, 13:16
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I'm not sure what you're saying here, Hervé. Is this evidence for, or against, meteor impact, magnetic polar inversions, the electric universe, and/or some combination, causation or correlation thereof ?
In short, the data provided in the interview are evidence for all the above :)
Ben Garrison/Suspicious Observers chat with Robert Felix promotes the idea that there seems to be a correlation between magnetic pole reversals, ice age and the Precession of the Equinoxes cycles but Robert seems to be of the idea that the Precession of the Equinoxes is due to Earth's wobble rather than the effect of a binary Solar System.
Also, Robert doesn't think that the burnt/charcoal/coal layers correlated to ice age/magnetic reversals and related extinction events (e.g. mammoths (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88088-Bolides-Comets-Asteroids-Meteors-And-Falling-Skies&p=1169728&viewfull=1#post1169728)) are due to meteorite impacts but rather to active volcanism.
By leaving a very plausible Binary Solar System out of the picture, Robert (not sure about Ben) also leaves out a model which integrates most, if not all, of the observed phenomena.
A Binary Solar System brings with it an Electric Universe component and its accompanying electromagnetic effects on the sun as well as earth and all the other planets and which in turn affect weather/climate and volcanism as well as the clockwork regularity of cometary/asteroid/meteoroid disturbances.
In short, the chat (I would recommend anyone to have a listen to), is excellent in correlating a good number of phenomena but leaves out the most important piece (in my opinion) and that's a Binary Solar System with its accompanying electromagnetic and gravitational influence over said Solar System.
PS: For those interested in the mammoths' fate, see this series of posts starting here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88088-Bolides-Comets-Asteroids-Meteors-And-Falling-Skies&p=1169728&viewfull=1#post1169728) (<---)
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