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Is Julian Assange 'Spy' #9?

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Published on 27 Jun 2013


The Obama Administration has charged eight people under the Espionage Act. And new
revelations about tactics used by the FBI to collect data on Wikileaks over the last few
years suggest that Julian Assange himself could be the ninth person facing espionage
charges in a sealed indictment. So what do the FBI's tactics toward Assange mean for
Edward Snowden and journalists entrusted with sharing his secrets? Political
Commentator Sam Sacks explains.

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(March 26, 2013) Julian Assange - Google, CIA, Homeland Security, Spying

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Published on 26 Mar 2013


(March 26th 2013) WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange opens the doors of Ecuadorian
Embassy to talk about Google, the CIA, Homeland Security and how these agencies are
spying on us all!

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Social networks are spying tools for US intelligence - Julian Assange

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Published on 1 May 2013


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says Facebook Google and Yahoo are under constant
pressure of US intelligence agencies and used by them as a data base.





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Julian Assange: "Edward Snowden, Prism Leaker Is A Hero".


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Published on 10 Jun 2013


Julian Assange: 'Prism Leaker Is A Hero'.

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Julian Assange on Bill Maher


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Published on 16 Feb 2013


I found this clip somewhere on the interwebs.
If you hold the rights to it, let me know so I
can put it offline.

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Wikileaks' Julian Assange on Democracy Now! Full

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Published on 29 May 2013


Julian Assange joins Democracy Now! by video
stream from the Ecuadorian Embassy on
Wednesday May 29, 2013.

[TargeT]

ASSANGE is questionable to me, at best....

I'm very sure he is not as he appears; he has gotten too much press time, which makes me think he is either being allowed to or is in collusion with the media's controllers.

and beside that Wikileaks has never "leaked" anything very bad, in fact it only seems to leak things that further the current agendas of what could be labeled "TPTB".

[Cidersomerset]

ASSANGE is questionable to me, at best....

I'm very sure he is not as he appears; he has gotten too much press time, which makes me think he is either being allowed to or is in collusion with the media's controllers.

and beside that Wikileaks has never "leaked" anything very bad, in fact it only seems to leak things that further the current agendas of what could be labeled "TPTB".

Nothing would surprise me in this crazy world ,but having listened to all these vids today and others
if he is a plant or whatever to catch 'genuine ' whistle blowers or just a distraction/diversion he is
paying the price for it holed up in the Equadorian embassy granted a relatively comfy cell, but still a cell.

I think he is genuine, but we will have to wait and see.

[Lifebringer]

I like Bill Maher, even if his interviewing is a little crass.

[Soulboy]

ASSANGE is questionable to me, at best....

I'm very sure he is not as he appears; he has gotten too much press time, which makes me think he is either being allowed to or is in collusion with the media's controllers.

His hacker name was "Mendex" which roughly translates into "the untruthful one"...

And then there are other MUCH more damaging people out there (if their stories are true anyway) who don't get a minute on TV (at least not here in Europe), such as this fellow here: http://truthernews.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/nuclear-terror-whistleblower-david-chase-taylor-in-swiss-court-june-25-2013/

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Noam Chomsky (2013) on "Julian Assange and Wikileaks"


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Published on 12 May 2013


For full interview click here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OMLp...

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John Pilger on Julian Assange, WikiLeaks & the Swedish extradition

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Published on 31 May 2012


John Pilger (Journalist and filmmaker) speaks to the press outside the UK
Supreme Court in central London, about the case against Julian Assange,
WikiLeaks & the Swedish extradition - after he loses his appeal to avoid
extradition to Sweden for sex crime allegations. 30 May 2012

[Prodigal Son]

ASSANGE is questionable to me, at best....

I'm very sure he is not as he appears; he has gotten too much press time, which makes me think he is either being allowed to or is in collusion with the media's controllers.

His hacker name was "Mendex" which roughly translates into "the untruthful one"...

And then there are other MUCH more damaging people out there (if their stories are true anyway) who don't get a minute on TV (at least not here in Europe), such as this fellow here: http://truthernews.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/nuclear-terror-whistleblower-david-chase-taylor-in-swiss-court-june-25-2013/That's quite a link you provided there Soulboy... thanks for that. So it appears there was a false flag plot involving dirty nukes at the February 6, 2011 Super Bowl in Dallas. I'm also quite certain that a similar plot was foiled this past February in New Orleans by that very timely blackout. No better stage than the top rated sports event in America. Assange and now Snowden appear to be a distraction from that... the timing is just too perfect.

[TargeT]

ASSANGE is questionable to me, at best....

I'm very sure he is not as he appears; he has gotten too much press time, which makes me think he is either being allowed to or is in collusion with the media's controllers.

and beside that Wikileaks has never "leaked" anything very bad, in fact it only seems to leak things that further the current agendas of what could be labeled "TPTB".

Nothing would surprise me in this crazy world ,but having listened to all these vids today and others
if he is a plant or whatever to catch 'genuine ' whistle blowers or just a distraction/diversion he is
paying the price for it holed up in the Equadorian embassy granted a relatively comfy cell, but still a cell.

I think he is genuine, but we will have to wait and see.


That seems to be a common theme, there doesn't seem to be much compassion or "team loyalty" from that group.


wait and see is about all we can do, of course I could be wrong; but if nothing else there's some very suspicious things happening surrounding the whole "wiki-leaks" phenomenon. A MAJOR trigger I get is how its design and "feel" is very much like FLICKR & TWITTER (and has a hint of "facebook") all which are government sponsored social media spying tools; almost like the same designers were involved.

[Soulboy]

ASSANGE is questionable to me, at best....

I'm very sure he is not as he appears; he has gotten too much press time, which makes me think he is either being allowed to or is in collusion with the media's controllers.

and beside that Wikileaks has never "leaked" anything very bad, in fact it only seems to leak things that further the current agendas of what could be labeled "TPTB".

Nothing would surprise me in this crazy world ,but having listened to all these vids today and others
if he is a plant or whatever to catch 'genuine ' whistle blowers or just a distraction/diversion he is
paying the price for it holed up in the Equadorian embassy granted a relatively comfy cell, but still a cell.

I think he is genuine, but we will have to wait and see.


That seems to be a common theme, there doesn't seem to be much compassion or "team loyalty" from that group.


wait and see is about all we can do, of course I could be wrong; but if nothing else there's some very suspicious things happening surrounding the whole "wiki-leaks" phenomenon. A MAJOR trigger I get is how its design and "feel" is very much like FLICKR & TWITTER (and has a hint of "facebook") all which are government sponsored social media spying tools; almost like the same designers were involved.

I can think of one other very popular website that starts with Wiki which is not that interested in the truth or at least the whole truth very often. When you go to that website and instead of the main page, as I am sure many people on this forum do, click on the "Discussion" tab at the top, you'll see hefty fights with people who are trying to get some truth and a complete picture into their entries, but their editors or keepers of the gate of truth do their very best to use some (rather stupid) reasons for not including the data that would change the opinion of the reader about the person, object or event in question.

I can think of a German politician who has a little faible for children if you know what I mean, and talks about it at great length in bis autobiography, but the editing team of that website says that is 1. not an appropriate source and 2. they don't want to diminish people who are still alive. The editor who argued these two points above also uses the birth name of MLK Jnr., which is quite a feat in my mind...

Also, that website's style is not unlike Wikileaks in terms of design. From what little I understand about web design, it could be that they use templates that are easy to use in designing formats, but often when you start explaining things and begin with "it could be", well... it could also 'not' be, so yeah... :)

This is just a thought and proves nothing, but an hourglass as in their logo seems to be the appropriate logo. It holds most back in the top and only very little trickles out at the bottom and very slowly as well. Who knows what all that gritty sand in the top half stands for...

[TargeT]

I can think of one other very popular website that starts with Wiki which is not that interested in the truth or at least the whole truth very often. When you go to that website and instead of the main page, as I am sure many people on this forum do, click on the "Discussion" tab at the top, you'll see hefty fights with people who are trying to get some truth and a complete picture into their entries, but their editors or keepers of the gate of truth do their very best to use some (rather stupid) reasons for not including the data that would change the opinion of the reader about the person, object or event in question.

I can think of a German politician who has a little faible for children if you know what I mean, and talks about it at great length in bis autobiography, but the editing team of that website says that is 1. not an appropriate source and 2. they don't want to diminish people who are still alive. The editor who argued these two points above also uses the birth name of MLK Jnr., which is quite a feat in my mind...

Also, that website's style is not unlike Wikileaks in terms of design. From what little I understand about web design, it could be that they use templates that are easy to use in designing formats, but often when you start explaining things and begin with "it could be", well... it could also 'not' be, so yeah... :)

This is just a thought and proves nothing, but an hourglass as in their logo seems to be the appropriate logo. It holds most back in the top and only very little trickles out at the bottom and very slowly as well. Who knows what all that gritty sand in the top half stands for...

And with the way human psychology works i'm sure most of these people are just doing what they think is right with no truly nefarious intention, I see the majority of "internet trolls" in this category too. In a sense those that are unable to assimilate new information/concepts they are uncomfortable with, those that are not "open minded" (in all ways) are helping to keep the rest of us in what they consider "safe" grounds; I'm not sure what this is, instinct - drive - indoctrination, but I think for the most part it's consequences are unintended.

this thought makes the tip of the pyramid seem much sharper & smaller & the effort needed to correct much more daunting.

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Related a report from Bradley Mannings trial and how the prosecution
are trying to link him to wiki.....

Manning's commander testifies at WikiLeaks' source's trial

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Published on 28 Jun 2013


The fourth week of Private first class Bradley Manning's trial
has come to an end in Fort Meade, Maryland. On Friday, the
soldier's commander testified over the effects the leaks had
on the brigades' morale in Iraq. RT's Liz Wahl wraps up the week.

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ASSANGE is questionable to me, at best....

I'm very sure he is not as he appears; he has gotten too much press time, which makes me think he is either being allowed to or is in collusion with the media's controllers.

and beside that Wikileaks has never "leaked" anything very bad, in fact it only seems to leak things that further the current agendas of what could be labeled "TPTB".

I have to admit there does seem a pattern to all these suspect "whistle blowers" unlike Manning who gets locked in a cage naked for months into years, they get away scot free, usually into the "arms of an American "target countries" ... and I agree, it is amazing the amount of press they get... when if they wanted the Controlled Media, could just as easily be told to shut down all media reporting on Snowden at least... since Assange rules the internet...

But then on the other hand... to Assange's favour... why would the Government force the credit card companies to deny Assange, that is a pretty dirty move to do to anyone... tough call right down the line... I do find it hard to peg Assange. It could be their leaks are so "tame" until Assange can get free... politics... just the way the US wants it...