China invades Bhutan ?

[delfine]

Fearmongering or for real?

"China sets up camps, hoists flag in Bhutan"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/China-sets-up-camps-hoists-flag-in-Bhutan/videoshow/20783054.cms

[Bubu]

If you notice over the past few months china intensified/expand its territorial boundary claims including the sea. My guess is that it is trying to secure the perimeter to prevent a surprise attack. From whom? Things like these indicates clearly that something big is about to come.

[Bill Ryan]

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Dangerous (and potentially tragic), if true. And the Times of India is a reputable source.

Bhutan is the last unspoiled, unadulterated kingdom on Earth: a peaceful, spiritual, extraordinarily beautiful country -- like a mini-Tibet, as it was a hundred years ago. Travel there is restricted, and national policy decisions are made mainly by the Senior Buddhist Lamas, who advise the King.

The King of Bhutan has gone on record as stating in a speech: The Gross National Happiness is more important that the Gross National Product. An impressive and visionary policy statement from the leader of a nation-state in the 21st century.

[Camilo]

I guess those are signs of the times. Hopefully it won't escalate to a mayor incident.

[RunningDeer]

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Bhutan_zps3051cee8.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

Aha, Paula - you beat me by 10 minutes with the map, and you circled Bhutan :).

[ThePythonicCow]

Dangerous (and potentially tragic), if true. And the Times of India is a reputable source.
I lack two items that would be useful here:

A map showing the extent of the disputed territory, to see how much of Bhutan is currently claimed by China.
A crystal ball to know whether the Chinese claims will grow to "embrace" all of Bhutan, over time. That would indeed be tragic.

[Agape]

Very bad . I think the great warriors of Shambhala will have to wake up ..

The last unspoiled territory on Earth . Shame to this China really, shame of them, like you don't have enough space , like you've not invaded all surrounding countries .

CXJwNSkdTH0

This breaks my heart

[RunningDeer]

A picture's worth a 1000 words.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Bhutan2_zpsbb02e01e.jpg

[Octavusprime]

It seems to me that over the last 10+ years China, Russia and US have been playing chess in the middle east. All with the intent of becoming the next super power or in the US' case, keeping it's status.

I stumbled on the following document while researching China, Russia, US relations. It is from the carnegie endowment website so take it in with a grain of salt. It has interesting information on the nuclear capabilities of each nation and theorizes about each ones ability to use Nuclear stockpiles as effective deterrents and leveraging tools.

I just hope Russia and China don't collaborate and preemptive strike. It sounds ridiculous but with the current situation of the US dollar, the US is left vulnerable to destabilization forces. Of course this would probably be a bit suicidal they could do enough damage to set all nations back to square one. Such a strategy seems to fit right into a genocidal NWO agenda.

http://carnegieendowment.org/files/strategic_triangle.pdf

[Fractalius]

A picture is worth a 1000 words.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee394/World_Clock/Photobank/IMG_1456.jpg (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/World_Clock/media/Photobank/IMG_1456.jpg.html)

[RunningDeer]

Dangerous (and potentially tragic), if true. And the Times of India is a reputable source.
I lack two items that would be useful here:

A map showing the extent of the disputed territory, to see how much of Bhutan is currently claimed by China.
A crystal ball to know whether the Chinese claims will grow to "embrace" all of Bhutan, over time. That would indeed be tragic.



Only begins to answer your questions. Disputed borders of Bhutan and China, and other border disputes with China.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/indias-troubled-borders_zpsb207a911.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/India-China-Pakistan_zpse4416516.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/india-china-border_zps29b66bc5.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/map11_zpsb1095978.jpg

[Soulboy]

I recently read that Bhutan was the first country to announce they were 100% organic... Perhaps a vicious attack by the GMO soy front?

I know someone who just got back from a 6 month stay in Bhutan and returned a changed person, saying it was truly magical there. What a shame if it turned into yet another war-zone...

[Bubu]

Sea territorial disputes involving china for the past year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea

[yuhui]

I know this is kind of irrelevant, but I do not know why I want to write these down:

Early this year, I have made my mind to go to "Tibet Autonomous Region" in Sichuan, China and to be a volunteer and teacher (Chinese, english, music...) in a tibetan buddhist temple which belongs a great tibetan buddhist master in Bhutan (DJKR).

Anyway,I quitted my job in shanghai and planned everything (jounery starts in August, travel by train, and at first I will work for a grass root organization and foundation for orphan in tibetan region, and then make a pilgrimage to this place:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=21883&d=1372556665

I have this feeling of my life just begin and really hope that what I am doing will be will be benefiting this world......but I also think I am very unexperienced and short-sighted in this idealist lifestyle. Do people have suggestions or ideas to prevent some terrible things to happen?(both short term and long term I mean) Because I studied in media and making documentaries/letting people to have a voice where they are not allowed to have/changing the world was and is my dream still. (So I did plan to make some documentaries there).

[ghostrider]

Hey that dirt your standing on , it's mine hand it over, its better dirt than I have... I want it, I will take it, more , more , more ...silly, fighting over an imaginary line dividing the same dirt ... nothing is sacred anymore, nobody has privacy, respect, honor, common sense ...the chinese soldiers should invade the home of the general that gave them the stupid order to invade a peaceful neighbor ...

[ghostrider]

how sad... picture this , a group of friends , sitting down to share a meal, stories , and catch up on life, everyone smiling and living an honest way of life , ehummmm... in comes tanks dumping smog into their clear air , guns, the sound of boots hitting the ground as rows of soldiers march down the streets, airplanes polluting the sky, panic sets in , and WTF ??? the day ruined ... and now it's how long is it going to take before they go home and we return to our peaceful way of life ... this kind of madness makes me ashamed to live on earth today ... how much dirt is enough ??? it's all dirt no matter what flag you fly ...

[mosquito]

This is truly sad, but has anyone bothered to listen to the attached Indian Times video ????

India HAS ALSO invaded Bhutan !!!!!!!!!!

As others have said, Bhutan is the last remaining unspoilt country on Earth .... I can't write any more, all of this just sickens me.

[Anchor]

I wonder how long it will take for the true story to get out.

Bhutan is awesome from what I read, and I really like the vibe that is projected by the King (and now Queen)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02025/bhutan-_2025419c.jpg

Here is a nice story about the royal wedding with some background on the country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/bhutan/8823615/Bhutans-Prince-Charming-king-marries-student-bride.html

I am sure there is more to this story than meets the eye - I personally think India is up to no good goaded on by the Americans. (This is just speculation)

[ghostrider]

I love the kings approach, the gross national happiness is more important than the gross national product ...no traffic lights, no road rage, the streets are clean, the people seem happy, they all speak well of the King, not one person ranting like we do here in the states ...there is a group of ET's in that area from way back ...the blue people ...agharta ... yes that city is still there and it is real ...

[Anchor]

Here is a nice ripost from a Bhutanese blogger in 2011, aimed at some Singoporean that saud "Bhutanese are not happy"

http://www.passudiary.com/2011/10/to-mr-khaw-boon-wan-what-did-you-expect.html


To Mr. Khaw BoonWan, What did you expect?

(This is in reply to National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan of Singapore on his comments made on our country )

Dear Mr. Khaw,

I was not surprised when you said Bhutan is not the last Shangri-la on Earth, because I had a friend from your country who found Bhutan only "full of mountains and valleys". When you visited Bhutan, what did you expect? Those flying mountains you saw in Avatar? or Every Bhutanese merrily dancing in designer clothes? Well, you must have at least expected fancier cars and taller buildings but we only have taller mountains (not flying ones) and thicker forest (truly natural).

I am not surprised even when you said "Most of the time, I saw unhappy people, toiling in the field, worried about the next harvest and whether there would be buyers for their products." because I heard a proverb in school that goes, "Two men looked through the prison window, one saw the mud and other saw the horizon". I am only surprised that you have spend "Most of your time" in Bhutan looking in the fields. I am amazed at your ability to figure out whether the people are happy or unhappy just by looking at them- O' you even knew they were "worried about the next harvest". No wonder you country export human resources.

I visited your wonderful country sometime ago, and it felt like a city from the future. The transportation system held me spell bound, Cleanliness of the street is so much that I didn't find a fragment of dust on my shoes after walking for the hours, Every building and car looks new, and there is no question about the civic sense among the people. Four days after I landed in Bhutan I woke up and started sharing the stories of your wonderful country- yes it took me four days of sleeping to shake of the hangover of many sleepless nights in your 24X7 country. I read the amazing history of your country and thought to myself, if Bhutan's to develop, Singapore can be our vision.

But since you questioned the presence of happiness in Bhutan, let me answer by telling you few things that you overlooked when you visited my country. Those people you saw in the fields weren't unhappy, if you have gone closer you would have heard them singing and enjoying the social lives, perhaps you won't understand that. If you have spent a little longer time watching them, you would have seen and a woman with basket on her back and holding arms with several children coming with steaming food- we don't have McDonald or KFC. Then everybody will sit down to eat their lunch, laughing and joking, feeding babies, for over an hour- you wouldn't have had so much time to sit and watch I know, times means money in your country. But we have luxury of time. People don't worry "about the next harvest and whether there would be buyers for their products." In fact, we don't do much commercial farming, we do most of them to keep with the tradition. And when the sun sets, doesn't really matter what time, people leave for their homes where they have a large family waiting. Large family because we don't chase away our children when they become 18 or children cast away their parents when they age.

We don't need Health Insurance to survive, nor have to go for Education Loan for educating our children. We don't hang the drug users, we counsel them to hang on to their lives, we don't have to have a job to survive, and when we fall sick even the furthest cousin comes to attend without having to update Facebook status.

If you reread our history you will find that our wise kings have hidden us from the outside world so that we could remain the way we are today. If we start mining our mountains and lumbering our forests, we can become Singapore but no matter what you do you can never become Bhutan. It is far too difficult. We shall be the last breath of oxygen on earth.

Bhutan may not be the Last Shangri-la but we are happy.

(Bolding was mine as that one sentence holds much)


America does not seem to like Bhutan - wonder why


"Today, Taiwan is one of only five countries in the world with which the United States does not have diplomatic relations. Taiwan does not deserve to be associated with bad actors such as Bhutan, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea."

WTF ? Here is where I read that, its a fun read. http://warm-oolong-tea.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/the-newest-member-of-axis-of-evilbhutan.html

Here is the government website from which that Bhutan quote came from...

http://mccaul.house.gov/hidden-section/mccaul-andrews-call-for-normalized-diplomatic-relations-with-taiwan/

So it seems real that some powerful people in the US do not regard Bhutan well.

Last year in June it was reported "China, Bhutan to forge diplomatic ties"

http://www.bhutannewsservice.com/main-news/politics/china-bhutan-ready-to-forge-diplomatic-ties/

So - anyone got any idea what is going on really ?

None of this counts against my "speculation" earlier in this thread.

Perhaps Bhutan have asked China to help them deal with India, and the story that opened this thread is an India perspective on a much wider problem.

Seems like Bhutan is going to be a geopolitical football for a while.

Bhutan is not perfect and like most countries has skeletons in the closet.

Apparantley there were 100,000 Lhotshampa refugees from Bhutan in India who got kicked out of Bhutan in 1990. I read that here http://www.photovoice.org/bhutan/index1.php?id=1 can anyone confirm?[1]

My prayers are for all that is good in Bhutan and may Bhutan remain one of the exemplary seeds for world harmony, as this is how I regard it as today.


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[1] Update: This is indeed true, and Australia took 1006 of the ones not allowed back.

[Fractalius]

It is indeed not the last Shangrilah on earth but I am not about to list the rest of them am I!

[eva08]

How beautiful these people are

[jiminii]

hey whats going on ... I got friends in bhutan

jim

[bennycog]

I really like your posts anchor.. Informative as always brother, and with a lot of meaning :)

[kanishk]

My friend's(from Bhutan) facebook update on friday

Dear mighty China,
If what media is portraying is true than it is pathetic that a mighty nation like you have not quenched your thirst by the suffering of fallen nation like Tibet. you want to intrude and the fact that Buddhism is the dominant religion in your country seems satirical.
please step away from the border intrusion and keep a tiny happy nation Bhutan happy as it always is.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

This is truly sad, but has anyone bothered to listen to the attached Indian Times video ????

India HAS ALSO invaded Bhutan !!!!!!!!!!

As others have said, Bhutan is the last remaining unspoilt country on Earth .... I can't write any more, all of this just sickens me.

What I heard is........there now are about perhaps a maximum of a few dozen Chinese soldiers and some officers present in the whole of Bhutan, perhaps to check out why Buddhist communism DOES work??? Dunno.... just saying.... and then something else, that was a nasty piece of tv by the Indians, war propaganda, cut and paste random nasty images, that is what I saw, no more no less, I think the Indians blow THIS particular one out of proportion, did you see that map where the supposed Chinese troops are stationed now? See the soldiers on the map? Look at their posture, aggressive stance, aiming at whatever, they are screwing with us by this presentation style, btw, I do think neither China nor India has any business invading ANYTHING, but I would like to have said what I said above.

[mosquito]

Here is a nice ripost from a Bhutanese blogger in 2011......

John - thanks for every word in that post.

Why does the USA hate Bhutan ? Maybe because (as the blogger's post shows) they have decent values.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Here is a nice ripost from a Bhutanese blogger in 2011......

John - thanks for every word in that post.

Why does the USA hate Bhutan ? Maybe because (as the blogger's post shows) they have decent values.

I think only SOME( a very very very tiny minority) of the USA hates Bhutan, the other 300 million Americans probably have no clue it even exists and cant point it out on a map anyways, just like they cant point out Holland on a map, they just get on a plane, get out, get high and fly back and that's it.

[Soulboy]

Absolutely everything I have read about Bhutan since this post came up has been truly wonderful in the purest sense of the word.

The telegraph article had this to say:

"You can be sure that our happiness is increasing," joked Karma T****eem, the head of the Gross National Happiness Commission, which vets government policy to ensure it increases the mental well-being of citizens.


That is what every other country on earth needs as well, a guy called Karma working for the Gross National Happiness Commission, making sure that our govs work towards a greater good instead of the pile of horse manure we all seem to follow and worship...

The king and queen are a glowing role-model for every leader on earth imo. Perhaps the country is being invaded because they make every other leader in the world look absolutely horrendous in comparison :)

[Anchor]

Why does the USA hate Bhutan ? Maybe because (as the blogger's post shows) they have decent values.

No NWO owned and run central bank ?

[Bubu]

Why does the USA hate Bhutan ? Maybe because (as the blogger's post shows) they have decent values.

They don't buy much cars and infrastructure and is almost impossible to provoke to war.

[Agape]

Why does the USA hate Bhutan ? Maybe because (as the blogger's post shows) they have decent values.

They don't buy much cars and infrastructure and is almost impossible to provoke to war.

Who hates Bhutan . Everybody loves Bhutan so they would like to consume a piece ..

[johnf]

This life style, and these values are present on the planet in the view of others.
I like the idea put out there by 778 Neighbor, that China may be interested in why the system there is working and gets the cooperation of it's people.
The book/movie, The mouse that roared, popped into my mind when I was thinking about this post yesterday.
In that story one little country brought the rest of the world to it's knees because they supposedly had a doomsday weapon worse than the atom bomb.
Instead of a weapon this country has kept a certain fire burning for ages.
Countries like to threaten, and grab the public eye to show their power.
If this situation was shown to the world in the way that some are seeing it in this thread,
many will see the stark contrast of where the rest of the world has gone.
Iceland dealt with financial meddling in it's country in a way that is opposite to how most have dealt with it.
some have noticed.
Regardless, this way of life is still there in the human tapestry, and at some level, I think we all know what the consequences have been of leaving it behind.

jf

[delfine]

This is truly sad, but has anyone bothered to listen to the attached Indian Times video ????

India HAS ALSO invaded Bhutan !!!!!!!!!!

As others have said, Bhutan is the last remaining unspoilt country on Earth .... I can't write any more, all of this just sickens me.

What I heard is........there now are about perhaps a maximum of a few dozen Chinese soldiers and some officers present in the whole of Bhutan, perhaps to check out why Buddhist communism DOES work??? Dunno.... just saying.... and then something else, that was a nasty piece of tv by the Indians, war propaganda, cut and paste random nasty images, that is what I saw, no more no less, I think the Indians blow THIS particular one out of proportion, did you see that map where the supposed Chinese troops are stationed now? See the soldiers on the map? Look at their posture, aggressive stance, aiming at whatever, they are screwing with us by this presentation style, btw, I do think neither China nor India has any business invading ANYTHING, but I would like to have said what I said above.

Yes, that was the suspicion I got too; "war propaganda".
But who knows. I sincerely hope that Bhutan can stay as it is now; a small, peaceful and comparatively unspoilt country.

[Lifebringer]

Must be resources or another pyramid there.