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music
29th June 2013, 22:15
USDA approves horse slaughterhouse to produce meat for human consumption (http://www.naturalnews.com/040995_horse_meat_slaughterhouses_USDA_approval.html)

From Natural News:

"The next burger you bite into might be a horsemeat burger, thanks to the U.S. government approving horse slaughterhouses to produce meat for human consumption. Valley Meat Co in Roswell, New Mexico, is being green-lighted by the USDA, which will routinely send inspectors to make sure it is slaughtering horses and processing horse meat in a "clean" way.

Additional horse meat plants are expected to be approved by the USDA in Missouri and Iowa. While horse meat can't legally be sold in the USA for human consumption, it can be used in pet food. It may also turn up in the U.S. food supply despite its legal status because it can be sold to Mexico for human consumption, then re-labeled and shipped back into the USA for use as a low-cost meat filler. Horse meat has already been identified in a scandalous food operation in Europe, where meatballs sold throughout European grocery stores were found to be made with horse meat.


Under the Obama administration, horse slaughterhouses became legal again
Horse meat slaughterhouses were banned during the Bush administration, but under President Obama, the ban expired (in 2011), allowing horse meat slaughterhouses to restart operations. Obama says he wants Congress to ban horse meat slaughterhouses in the USA, but then again, Obama says a lot of things he doesn't actually intend to make a reality (closing of Guantanamo, labeling GMOs, making health care free, reducing the budget deficit, etc.).

The USDA says, "it was required by law to issue the grant of inspection because Valley Meat met all federal requirements," reports Reuters, which also says that 130,000 horses are slaughtered each year in Canada and Mexico.

U.S. companies want a piece of that business, it seems, because horses can be acquired for virtually free.


Where horses really come from for meat production
So here's the scary part of this article for those who might be a little squeamish: Most of this horse meat comes from horse owners who decide to have their horses killed for a variety of reasons: illness, injury, or simply economic reasons such as not affording to keep them fed and cared for.

Instead of having the courage to give their own horse a dignified death -- i.e. having the vet administer a lethal injection, saying a prayer and burying it on the land it enjoyed -- many owners call the slaughterhouse to have the horse hauled away and subjected to a terrifying, gruesome death in a meat packing plant, surrounded by other screaming horses who are in the process of being murdered.

Horse slaughterhouses are therefore able to purchase these horses for a dollar amount that's far below the actual cost to raise a horse. The horses are transported to the slaughterhouse facility (which is actually the largest cost of the entire thing due to fuel prices) and then their throats are slit to begin the "processing" of the meat.

Yep, Becky's little pony that she grew up with as a teenage girl ends up bleeding out on the floor of a horse slaughterhouse in New Mexico. When expensive family pets are no longer needed, they're just sold off for meat.

Keep that in mind if you're considering buying a horse for your teen daughter or granddaughter. What will happen to that horse once your daughter loses interest in raising horses after discovering that raising a horse requires a tremendous amount of physical labor?

If you're a horse owner, be a responsible one. Don't let your horse get slaughtered for food. Because if you do, you not only cause your horse to experience a terrifying ending; you also may end up eating your horse the next time you whip up some spaghetti and meatballs."

Lifebringer
29th June 2013, 22:25
And just who in their right mind in America is gonna eat Mr. Ed? Black Velvet?

They are just wasting the retirement and fertilization, the horse could be contributing to, for rejuvenation our chemically worn soils.

God's gonna surely get them for that, and I will expect a label, and or stop going to McGreedy's or Animal Burger King, and NOT gonna gallop tot he Border either.

Ooops, I forgot the Greedy Pigs on Wall street eating filet mignon, and peddling the horse stew around for the chattel.
What did we expect. I think that is why the search for truth that must be prayed or spoken about to the Creator and Christ, is what we are to do. In Enoch, he says God and His hosts are gonna give them over to the meek they have harmed to have justice pressed upon them by our way/law.
The really evil ones doing all the planning and action, will Divinely be dealt with.

haibane
30th June 2013, 00:03
Wow. It never even occurred to me that horse meat was banned in the US. I guess it's mostly a cultural issue - horse meat has been part of the diet of most meat-eating cultures all over the world since forever. Not a big deal where I'm from (it only sells because it's cheap, and still the demand isn't too high, so it isn't easy to find unless fraudulently mixed in something without being clearly declared). As far as I know it's highly valued in French cuisine in some parts of the country and said to be rather healthy (as far as meat goes).

For me the hint for not eating horse meat would be the fact that it isn't kosher, rather than horses being some kind of sacred animals. I eat other herbivores and omnivores after all. Do people feel the same about horses all over America?

CD7
30th June 2013, 03:33
Yes its hard to imagine for me and I cant really speak for all americans, but i have some idea...horses are more looked at like pets in most instances here, but ofcourse there are those who use them for show, racing, etc..

To me, the idea of slaughter houses for any mammal makes me sad. I would rather exist in a place where everything doesn't eat everything else to survive....I mean when u think about it, what a base and degrading form of existence for all species..

Our world"s nature seems to be set up tht way. However man has the ability to choose not to eat other living mammals, birds-- unlike animals.
So I think this subject is interesting because it makes me question a mechanism in our world tht if changed/altered--would it change the way we operate...perhaps theres another paradigm where such habits are not needed or just DONT HAPPEN. But alas to dream Aye!!

Vitalux
30th June 2013, 03:57
Interesting .....thread.

What really makes one kind of animal exempt as food source than another?
I have had times where I was so hungry I could eat a horse :lol:

TargeT
30th June 2013, 04:05
Interesting .....thread.

What really makes one kind of animal exempt as food source than another?
I have had times where I was so hungry I could eat a horse :lol:

so, because one animal has more of an emotional tie to humanity it deserves protection above the rest?

what about pigs, they are as much pets as dogs are..... we need to ether understand our position as a carnivorour or change our ways. ....

Vitalux
30th June 2013, 04:12
Interesting .....thread.

What really makes one kind of animal exempt as food source than another?
I have had times where I was so hungry I could eat a horse :lol:

so, because one animal has more of an emotional tie to humanity it deserves protection above the rest?

what about pigs, they are as much pets as dogs are..... we need to ether understand our position as a carnivorour or change our ways. ....


From my perspective.....the whole universe is one big holographic illusion.....So rather we eat the animals or each other...:nono:...it doesn't matter.
We are everything and nothing at the same time. When one fixes an illusion it is still an illusion. :lol:

ghostrider
30th June 2013, 05:58
man society is messed up , when are we gonna change this ****e ??? has anyone else had enough ??? is it knowing or doing thats important ??? how much does it take before we get off our butts and fix our world ??? how many freedoms must we loose ??? how many more have to die ??? how many more wars does it take ??? whats the number ??? how many more lies are we going to put up with ??? how much more taxes will we tolerate ??? Now they want to eat horses ??? those blankety blankety mother scratching, blankety , errrrrrrrrrrggggggggg...

Octavusprime
30th June 2013, 07:48
I don't see a difference between eating a horse or a cow . We eat pigs, cows, goats, lamb, llama, elk, deer, bison, ostrich etc. All of these animals could be seen as pets to someone.

I understand the personal fondness and attachment people have towards their pets. I could never eat any of my 3 cats but really whether you eat an alligator or a horse is irrelevant. You are still killing a living thing and feeding it to another.

161803398
30th June 2013, 08:29
I think people know, or should know, instinctively, that there is symbolism in this. Important aspect of human development were inextricably linked to the horse which is also, although not sacred, an important icon in American culture. This is how we are being undermined.

music
30th June 2013, 10:31
I think people know, or should know, instinctively, that there is symbolism in this. Important aspect of human development were inextricably linked to the horse which is also, although not sacred, an important icon in American culture. This is how we are being undermined.

At least you get the point!

The two animals which have journeyed energetically and emotionally with man have been the dog and the horse. Take a good look into the eyes of these animals, then look into the eye of a sheep or a cow. There is a world of difference. The relationship between the dog and humans offered us protection while our brains expanded and we traded sensory awareness for mental acuity. The relationship between the horse and humans allowed us to extend our strength and range, and our imaginations. Think of the Centaur, the Unicorn, or Pegasus. Think of the iconic nature of human astride horse.

It is not about intellect - there are smarter animals. It is about knocking another peg out from under us.

CD7
30th June 2013, 12:22
We are everything and nothing at the same time. When one fixes an illusion it is still an illusion.

Yeah but why are we so fixed on a barbaric illusion....WHEN IS OUR ILLUSION GOING TO BE SOMETHING GRAND...instead of resembling more of a zombie movie??!!!

Octavusprime
30th June 2013, 16:44
I think people know, or should know, instinctively, that there is symbolism in this. Important aspect of human development were inextricably linked to the horse which is also, although not sacred, an important icon in American culture. This is how we are being undermined.

I suppose you are right, I didn't think about it like that. Emotionally we have a connection to the horse which makes it's impact on our psyche strong.

Octavusprime
30th June 2013, 16:56
I think people know, or should know, instinctively, that there is symbolism in this. Important aspect of human development were inextricably linked to the horse which is also, although not sacred, an important icon in American culture. This is how we are being undermined.

At least you get the point!

The two animals which have journeyed energetically and emotionally with man have been the dog and the horse. Take a good look into the eyes of these animals, then look into the eye of a sheep or a cow. There is a world of difference. The relationship between the dog and humans offered us protection while our brains expanded and we traded sensory awareness for mental acuity. The relationship between the horse and humans allowed us to extend our strength and range, and our imaginations. Think of the Centaur, the Unicorn, or Pegasus. Think of the iconic nature of human astride horse.

It is not about intellect - there are smarter animals. It is about knocking another peg out from under us.

I would add cats to that list of animals.

I remember when I was traveling cross country and stopped for a few days in Yellowstone. I hadn't seen many cars as I drove into the park. I came to a sudden stop due to traffic. I figured there must have been an accident. As I was about to get out of the car to try and see what was going on I saw a heard of Buffalo coming down the road. Luckily they were calm and thus slowly walking by the line of cars. A large male can be 2000 lbs or more. Anyway when they passed me they were no more than 3 feet from me and I looked into their eyes as went by. I felt like I was looking into the very distant past, there was strength and knowledge in those eyes. I don't know about cows and sheep but looking into a wild buffalo's eyes was very humbling.

ghostrider
30th June 2013, 17:10
I think people know, or should know, instinctively, that there is symbolism in this. Important aspect of human development were inextricably linked to the horse which is also, although not sacred, an important icon in American culture. This is how we are being undermined.

At least you get the point!

The two animals which have journeyed energetically and emotionally with man have been the dog and the horse. Take a good look into the eyes of these animals, then look into the eye of a sheep or a cow. There is a world of difference. The relationship between the dog and humans offered us protection while our brains expanded and we traded sensory awareness for mental acuity. The relationship between the horse and humans allowed us to extend our strength and range, and our imaginations. Think of the Centaur, the Unicorn, or Pegasus. Think of the iconic nature of human astride horse.

It is not about intellect - there are smarter animals. It is about knocking another peg out from under us.

I would add cats to that list of animals.

I remember when I was traveling cross country and stopped for a few days in Yellowstone. I hadn't seen many cars as I drove into the park. I came to a sudden stop due to traffic. I figured there must have been an accident. As I was about to get out of the car to try and see what was going on I saw a heard of Buffalo coming down the road. Luckily they were calm and thus slowly walking by the line of cars. A large male can be 2000 lbs or more. Anyway when they passed me they were no more than 3 feet from me and I looked into their eyes as went by. I felt like I was looking into the very distant past, there was strength and knowledge in those eyes. I don't know about cows and sheep but looking into a wild buffalo's eyes was very humbling.

i went to the local Zoo yesterday, the eyes of an elephant, and a rhino have such an ancient vibe... for me it's about respecting life, and only taking what is needed, the minimum, and protecting mothers and new borns, as to keep balance in nature, just cause we need it, bunk, we should exhaust other means first before the greed mentality creates more madness ...

Vitalux
30th June 2013, 22:58
We are everything and nothing at the same time. When one fixes an illusion it is still an illusion.

Yeah but why are we so fixed on a barbaric illusion....WHEN IS OUR ILLUSION GOING TO BE SOMETHING GRAND...instead of resembling more of a zombie movie??!!!

It all boils down to whatever you wish to imagine :drama:

CD7
1st July 2013, 02:06
We are everything and nothing at the same time. When one fixes an illusion it is still an illusion.

Yeah but why are we so fixed on a barbaric illusion....WHEN IS OUR ILLUSION GOING TO BE SOMETHING GRAND...instead of resembling more of a zombie movie??!!!

It all boils down to whatever you wish to imagine :drama:


WELL vitalux if tht's the case then we are all in for a world of change :)

DouglasDanger
2nd July 2013, 22:57
We have been eating horses for thousands of years, to get upset and throw a tantrum about it being "legal" now, shows how easy it is to destract us from the target. Every little thing that can get us emotional and to think negatively will being thrown at us to keep us on the path we are on...