Miles Johnston's WARNING aftermath Ammach

[Ria]

Deleted at request of Original Poster. -- Paul.

[etheric underground]

Gotta say.....very interesting. DISCERNMENT DISCERNMENT DISCERNMENT.....always

[william r sanford72]

the helmet is real and being used.they also use this tech to locate people like me. have seen the map.grid they use.and seen a map of usa.where starseed etc are located.also saw where atleast one controller was located and how it was using others for many agendas.like a octopus.or web.i dont want to post this but feel compelled to.this is the truth.my truth.

[Earth Angel]

well personally I never enjoyed Joanne's presence in the interviews.....sad that these people who came looking for real help have been used in this way

[shadowstalker]

Isn't this the same basic thing that Charle's did to P.C.?
Even if Jaonna is a lizard, dose this prove, that she is NOT being manipulated, that she is doing this on her own?
To create misery and destroy families?
I have yet to hear her admit she is or is not this being.
The problem with this kind of thing is circumstantial timing.
I wonder how many good folks went to jail based on just such a thing.
So I am going to keep an open mind and watch both sides of the fence....

Remember what they did to Kerry and Bill...

[Ria]

Deleted at request of Original Poster. -- Paul.

[Ria]

One of the key issue is the motive.
Having engaged in conversations with a couple of reptilian humanoids who were open and intelligent and whom appeared not to have an agenda in destroying humanoids is one thing.
But when it involves deception and destruction of other beings that is another matter entirely.

[Gardener]

Hi Ria,
It does have all the hallmarks of a well orchestrated 'sting' probably years in the planning, for just the right moment. Do you remember when Miles and Joanne interviewed Simon P and she tried to hypnotise him? If I recall the incident correctly, Simon experienced the 'shutters' coming down quite suddenly which completely blocked any attempt. Interesting that should happen. I wonder if Simon could throw more light on that situation.

It behoves anyone within this work in a serious way to be super vigilant, particularly with anyone with so much charm who is able to persuade with such guile, ... reminds me of the saying, ["...Though I send you out as sheep among wolves, be ye wise as serpents and gentle as doves..."] I think I have Greer in this category too.

[norman]

Gotta say............ errrr.........

The first time I clapped eyes on Joane I wanted to say something 'rude' about her.

I'm a self victim of putting my foot in my mouth and as I approach sixty I'm tending to keep my impulses to myself more as a way of trying to stabilize life and steady my cross hairs.

The main thing I take from this quick video is the probability that there is a program running at high levels in the social services to interfere with certain special kids and quite likely to co-opt them into 'programs', or neutralize them.

I know a person quite veteran in the 'social services' who I've just sent a link to. I suspect the "lizzard" thing will throw up a wobbly but I can only try.

[Holly Lindin]

I'm really curious what Joanne's opinion would be about all this (and it's sad Marie Kayali has bailed on PA, as I would absolutely appreciate her take on it all - as I'm sure many on Avalon would!). I'm not really surprised if she hasn't come forward, but it seems as though she's just disappeared since all this came to Light.

I appreciate AMMACH quite a bit for getting info about abductions and people's experiences out there - much like what Bill and Kerry have done for those of us constantly searching for information to discern. :) I always liked Joanne and appreciated her confidence and what I saw as a great willingness to share and learn, but there was one "incident" that occurred around a year ago or so (I can't remember, truly.) that raised the alarms for me. She had put Simon Parkes under hypnosis, and he was seeing a ritual or something of that nature, where lots of demonic-looking beings were dancing around a fire (I don't remember all the details, but I think a baby/toddler had something to do with it). Anyway, there was one moment where she was trying to get Simon to surround this one being (perhaps it was his Reptilian father?) with Love and Light, and this being was saying that he wasn't interested, that he wasn't accepting of the Love and Light, that he was a creature of Darkness or something to that effect. (I really should watch it again, seeing as I don't remember anything! :P) But Joanne kept pressing and pressing, saying that she didn't CARE if he wasn't interested or he wasn't accepting - according to her, this being was gonna accept Love and Light, no matter what they wanted.

Now, I'm all about Love and Light and everybody getting along and all that, but if a being is saying that, NO, he is NOT interested or accepting of it, isn't it spiritually "wrong" to FORCE something upon that being when he's not choosing it? That was something that was unsettling to me. After all, whether it's "better" (and what a relative term THAT is!) or not for the being to accept the Power of Love and Light, FORCING it upon him (especially when he's made his opinion known!) is no different than the globalist "elite" forcing their Darkness upon US.

Looking at the current situation, with abductees coming forward to say that Joanne had admitted that she was a Dinoid-Reptilian, it makes me wonder if her intent was never "Love and Light", as it seems to me now that, during the regression session, she was trying WAY too hard to project that energy. Trying to cover her tracks or whatever.

Am I making sense? :P <3

wfMKUE_CreY

Ah, found it! It's around the 22.00 mark. She talks about bringing "balance and healing" to Life through pushing her own personal agenda (of Love and Light.) onto these beings, disrespecting where they're coming from, if you ask me. If you want "balance and harmony", turning everything into a positive happy dance is only one side of the spectrum. For "balance and harmony", if you have Love and Light, you MUST have the fear and Darkness. Or am I a dingus? :P Watching it again now, I have the same opinion as I did months ago when watching it the first time. <3

[marie kayali]

A few things here need to be corrected and clarified , these people are going off he scale now and need to be stopped , confronted, named and shamed. Its time now I got my own fangs out and put a stop to these evil people and their nonsesne.Do you people want the truth or to continue lisening to the bull****??

[marie kayali]

Not sticking up for Joanne by any means as she is much to blame for things as Miles and just as sneaky, underhanded and nasty but I would seriously question Mile's magical sources for all this fantastic information and most of it comes from mental patients ,one who he filmed from a mental hospital ward, who supplied this information about Joanne. I have seen this with my own eyes . NO offence to the lady involved, as she does need help and I hope she is getting the correct help , but alas I feel Miles feeds these poor people more nonsense and feeds their delusions for his own purposes, whatever they may be or who this is for. As we all know Miles stated on national Tv that he doesn't believe in anything , right?

And another thing, you two 'ladies' and I use that term very loosely , better not start anything with me. I have enough to deal with and a mountain of scumbags, but adding
another two pieces of **** to my giant pile really isnt a problem for me, its up to you. Like you all keep repeating over and over , 'Marie is very strong person' . Well Marie was beaten down by all you scumbags but I am up again and am ready to clear the decks and get this scum out of my life for good. Namely Ammach and anyone gangstalking and harassing on their behalf and I will be naming you all . THings you all so blatantly speak out against yet practise so freely and expertly

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I'm really curious what Joanne's opinion would be about all this (and it's sad Marie Kayali has bailed on PA, as I would absolutely appreciate her take on it all - as I'm sure many on Avalon would!). I'm not really surprised if she hasn't come forward, but it seems as though she's just disappeared since all this came to Light.

I appreciate AMMACH quite a bit for getting info about abductions and people's experiences out there - much like what Bill and Kerry have done for those of us constantly searching for information to discern. :) I always liked Joanne and appreciated her confidence and what I saw as a great willingness to share and learn, but there was one "incident" that occurred around a year ago or so (I can't remember, truly.) that raised the alarms for me. She had put Simon Parkes under hypnosis, and he was seeing a ritual or something of that nature, where lots of demonic-looking beings were dancing around a fire (I don't remember all the details, but I think a baby/toddler had something to do with it). Anyway, there was one moment where she was trying to get Simon to surround this one being (perhaps it was his Reptilian father?) with Love and Light, and this being was saying that he wasn't interested, that he wasn't accepting of the Love and Light, that he was a creature of Darkness or something to that effect. (I really should watch it again, seeing as I don't remember anything! :P) But Joanne kept pressing and pressing, saying that she didn't CARE if he wasn't interested or he wasn't accepting - according to her, this being was gonna accept Love and Light, no matter what they wanted.

Now, I'm all about Love and Light and everybody getting along and all that, but if a being is saying that, NO, he is NOT interested or accepting of it, isn't it spiritually "wrong" to FORCE something upon that being when he's not choosing it? That was something that was unsettling to me. After all, whether it's "better" (and what a relative term THAT is!) or not for the being to accept the Power of Love and Light, FORCING it upon him (especially when he's made his opinion known!) is no different than the globalist "elite" forcing their Darkness upon US.

Looking at the current situation, with abductees coming forward to say that Joanne had admitted that she was a Dinoid-Reptilian, it makes me wonder if her intent was never "Love and Light", as it seems to me now that, during the regression session, she was trying WAY too hard to project that energy. Trying to cover her tracks or whatever.

Am I making sense? :P <3

wfMKUE_CreY

Ah, found it! It's around the 22.00 mark. She talks about bringing "balance and healing" to Life through pushing her own personal agenda (of Love and Light.) onto these beings, disrespecting where they're coming from, if you ask me. If you want "balance and harmony", turning everything into a positive happy dance is only one side of the spectrum. For "balance and harmony", if you have Love and Light, you MUST have the fear and Darkness. Or am I a dingus? :P Watching it again now, I have the same opinion as I did months ago when watching it the first time. <3

ANd if anyone believes this load of claptrap they need their heads examined. These people need to be exposed. You are all being fed lies after lies

[Ultima Thule]

Now I am well over my head here and this propably is asking for too much Marie, but is there any chance you could just briefly outline your background in relation to Ammach and where do you stand regarding et:s, abductions, what part of all this you consider lies etc. Due diligence would be the key words, but I see something here that I gather I should come up to speed with and just don't have the time to do that.

I hope I don't come off as lazy sod for asking this.

UT

Edit: been catching up on this issue, scratch my earlier question and yes, I am a lazy sod.

[Team Zen]

I appreciate AMMACH quite a bit for getting info about abductions and people's experiences out there - much like what Bill and Kerry have done for those of us constantly searching for information to discern. :) I always liked Joanne and appreciated her confidence and what I saw as a great willingness to share and learn, but there was one "incident" that occurred around a year ago or so (I can't remember, truly.) that raised the alarms for me. She had put Simon Parkes under hypnosis, and he was seeing a ritual or something of that nature, where lots of demonic-looking beings were dancing around a fire (I don't remember all the details, but I think a baby/toddler had something to do with it). Anyway, there was one moment where she was trying to get Simon to surround this one being (perhaps it was his Reptilian father?) with Love and Light, and this being was saying that he wasn't interested, that he wasn't accepting of the Love and Light, that he was a creature of Darkness or something to that effect. (I really should watch it again, seeing as I don't remember anything! :P) But Joanne kept pressing and pressing, saying that she didn't CARE if he wasn't interested or he wasn't accepting - according to her, this being was gonna accept Love and Light, no matter what they wanted.

Now, I'm all about Love and Light and everybody getting along and all that, but if a being is saying that, NO, he is NOT interested or accepting of it, isn't it spiritually "wrong" to FORCE something upon that being when he's not choosing it? That was something that was unsettling to me. After all, whether it's "better" (and what a relative term THAT is!) or not for the being to accept the Power of Love and Light, FORCING it upon him (especially when he's made his opinion known!) is no different than the globalist "elite" forcing their Darkness upon US.


Ah, found it! It's around the 22.00 mark. She talks about bringing "balance and healing" to Life through pushing her own personal agenda (of Love and Light.) onto these beings, disrespecting where they're coming from, if you ask me. If you want "balance and harmony", turning everything into a positive happy dance is only one side of the spectrum. For "balance and harmony", if you have Love and Light, you MUST have the fear and Darkness. Or am I a dingus? :P Watching it again now, I have the same opinion as I did months ago when watching it the first time. <3

No you are not a dingus! But, IMO, these dark dudes have no right to force their demented rituals and energy/soul sucking from other sentient beings either. They really don't care about how it effects others...I think that there exists some universal laws regarding free will vs. forcing one's powers on other conscious beings for their own benefit. From personal experience (though I retell this rather vaguely) someone who was helping me figure out what was causing perpetual blockage and energy depletion in my life (thru regression hypnotherapy) came across a nasty being from the Plaeades (I guess they're not all nice from that neck of the woods) who, despite our demands that it back off and cease all hostage taking of my being, said it didn't care if I was sentient or that it had no right to do what it was doing. They "needed" me (for what exactly, I dunno) and it wouldn't "let me go"

So, that being was pushing it's own agenda and being incredibly disrespectful- I guess what I'm saying is that maybe it's not being "disrespectful" to demand surrounding one in "Love and Light" as a way to defend and protect an innocent (like a baby/toddler)- after all, when has there ever been respect and decency in any sort of battle/war?

My 2 cents, thanks.

[Holly Lindin]

So, that being was pushing it's own agenda and being incredibly disrespectful- I guess what I'm saying is that maybe it's not being "disrespectful" to demand surrounding one in "Love and Light" as a way to defend and protect an innocent (like a baby/toddler)- after all, when has there ever been respect and decency in any sort of battle/war?

You make some REALLY great points, Team Zen. Some of this, I hadn't considered. I guess, when you're dealing with a polaristic planet where the great "Good vs Evil" war is going on (such as what we're familiar with on Terra!), you're constantly teetering on that line between intervention and staying out of it. When I did watch the interview initially (and the tiny little bit I watched last night.), I wasn't even thinking of the baby (when it came to Joanne's pushing positivity.) - I was thinking more of the race of beings in the ceremony as a whole, basing my opinion upon how they live their lives. (It doesn't mean I AGREE with it in any way, however.)

It's not quite the same thing, of course, but I find myself CONSTANTLY straddling this line. Not to PLAY the game of Good vs Evil 'cause I have no interest in either - I'm just me, and I am naturally open and loving (as I know probably everyone on Avalon is! :)). But as an observer, when's the "right" time to jump in and speak out or stay back and remain silent? When it comes to the matter of waking others up or helping them, you can feel that out and see where your intuition or past experiences will push you - some people really do NOT have the energy that they wanna know anything beyond what's on TV, and some people are obviously VERY HUNGRY for the Truth. I realize they're two completely different examples, and when an innocent is involved, of course, I personally would be a lot more motivated to protect it. But I'm one of those who's constantly living in the contradiction, so I find myself both agreeing and disagreeing with something at the same time a lot. Not because of confusion, but because of seeing the validity of both sides.

I'm also constantly straddling the opinion that there is pain in the third-dimensional "reality", and that's based on what's happening with our bodies, but then also that we are Divine Spirit, and this is all just a game, so it's not a big deal and there's a greater "reality" that exists that has plans we aren't aware of consciously (sometimes :)). It doesn't mean I'm ever okay with somebody being hurt by somebody else (and I ALWAYS cheer for the "underdog". :)), as I'm an empath and feel a GREAT deal of other people's energy (which is sometimes beautiful, sometimes awful, but thankfully, I can put up an emotional shield to protect myself if things get to be a little too much for me!). So, yeah, I'm constantly straddling that line on a myriad of topics. :P

I can't remember - was Simon the baby?

And thank you so much, Marie, for your opinion on the matter. It's nice to see you on Avalon again. :) I would love to know your opinion, of course, on what needs to be clarified and what is disinformation. Miles is a little questionable to me as well, but he's never raised the red flag for me until around now (probably 'cause he's kept pretty quiet until now!). Somebody on Avalon (I'm so sorry that I can't remember who and on what thread - I read it a few days ago.) had mentioned that they couldn't remember EVER hearing about the "black goo" before - it was information that was only coming from Miles's camp. It DOES sound feasible to me, but because it's only coming from one source that I currently know of, that's interesting. Perhaps he's divulging something others know about but won't say? Or perhaps it's all a load of crud? At this point, I have no idea.

Truthfully, whether someone was in a mental ward or not doesn't mean much to me, as I often feel so many who are put in places like that may have unlocked some things that perhaps they couldn't handle consciously - or after years and years of poking and prodding and poisons from the sick, oppressive system, they've just disassociated in order to survive. (And according to the psychiatrist handbook, the DSM, so MANY of us here on Avalon would be considered "crazy" or worthy of a mental institution.) May I ask which interviewee that was? I'd be interested to see the interview.

I'm sorry to hear about all you've gone through, Marie. I know you probably don't want people to feel sympathy for you, but so many of us who have seen your interviews with AMMACH care for you, even though we don't "know" you in the conventional sense. My thoughts are with you during this situation, but you seem like a strong woman, which is what I admire about you! Don't ever stop sharing your Truth! (As a strong woman myself, I already know you won't. :P)

If my post seems all over the place, I'm sorry about that (I just got outta bed :P). Hopefully, somebody can deduce some logic and inspiration from it. :) <3

[megawatts1066]

I have made every effort, to support ALL the victims of this channel 4 farce.
This includes M K.
The issues now seem to stretch back 10 years, and the ultimate target, the teenage demographic.
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I have many issues and targets in the frame.

For one of the posts questions, After I was creatively fired at SKY, after exposing deep and serious matters, Joanne came on in hot pursuit and asked me for weeks and weeks to do Ammach.
I finally relented, and put every possible professional effort in, on my own money to make it the best possible job, I could.
Now Ammach has been abandoned by her, and I was stabbed in the back by her, I have been exercising Duty of Care and going around ALL the victims in this very clever and targeted CH4 programme, to give whatever support I can.

In the last few weeks after many weeks of friendly and LONG phone calls and chats, Marie K has turned vicious and has rejected ALL forms of support. Her slandering of the extremely well respected and professionally qualified Spirit Release Foundation is her choice.
EVERY support solution I have given her and reference to, she has rebuffed and slandered. I am NOT a Therapist, but I know many many extremely fine ones for many different types of issue. I am Professional Broadcast engineer, and editor. For that I refer her to other therapists, its up to her and anyone else to avail of them or not, including her GP, as Chantelle has, with very successful results



On the one hand she says, she has no support, when you give it ,its gang stalking.
She has the implants, she stated this, sent me the MRI Scan of her left eye (From 2010), she stated she had 2 removed many years ago. We measured B, E and RF low and high frequency field energy, implying there are about 5 to 6 in her head.

Both her and Joanne tested positive for some kind of contact,(UV-B and UV-C) Joanne herself tested positive in 2009, at the IUFOC, and with held this data until her flight to the US, IUFOC in 2013, which Marie K PAID FOR! Why did she Not tell anyone about this Positive test. (This in addition to the published MILAB in my house in 2011, is or extreme concern)

The complexity of the deception and the lies and the true targeting is extremely complex, as it seems not one player in this game is who they say they are.

The main issue it seems is
A:- Destroy any support network that lends support and credibility to ANY Abductee/ Mind Control victim (Note the Mind Control issues was also played 2nd fiddle by Joanne and CH4 would not touch it, as its real, and there is evidence)

B:- Attack anyone who was not playing the game

C:- Destroy me

D:- make sure no one else gave data on this issue.

E:- TRIGGER a targeted population demographic, which they have done so. (Young teenage boys)


This is an EXTREMELY Dangerous situation, which is enfolding.

Finally Marie may be spitting and biting the hand that has done everything to lend her support, but at least she is still alive to do so, as she stated in January she would be dead by March, so July is bonus I suppose.

She has asked me to shut down her videos for now, but strangely 40 mins after asking me to do so, her account had uploaded another video from the Hard drive that Joanne took off me with copies of the Ammach videos.
So:- on the one moment Marie is saying I want no more publicity, then on the next is uploading videos from her account she wants taken off, and then spamming and slandering on every forum she can get access to.

So has Joanne or a 3rd party hacked Marie's YouTube account, or what game is she actually playing? As she has continued to massively occupy various Forums, instead of staying off them as she herself said, and I told her to do so

(Which "Alter" are we talking about?). I emailed her today advising of the possible hacking of her YouTube account and that I would reactivate her videos in 30 days.

I have huge respect and warm affection for Marie, who is abrilliant, intelligent woman who has gone through hell, and grives the loss of her brilliant and wonderful daughter
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[Earth Angel]

Megawatts1066.......what is that post?? is it entirely a post from Miles?? or are you Miles?? its not clear to me......sorry!

[norman]

Miles, if those who you feel responsible for ( 'duty of care' ) are asking you to step away, I think you should take a break from the intensity of the AMMACH affair.

Yes, these people may well not be in full possession of the facts and may not be making good decisions right now, but, you may not be in full possession of the facts and you may not be making good decisions right now either.

As you are right in the middle of this, you need to gain more 'outsider' perspective to counter balance the heavy weight of insider stress you have.

Please try to find a very "good" place inside yourself, and settle down into it for some proper quality time with yourself.

My very best wishes.

[sunflower]

I read it a few days ago.) had mentioned that they couldn't remember EVER hearing about the "black goo" before - it was information that was only coming from Miles's camp. It DOES sound feasible to me, but because it's only coming from one source that I currently know of, that's interesting. Perhaps he's divulging something others know about but won't say? Or perhaps it's all a load of crud? At this point, I have no idea.

I may be going off topic but did want to clarify a bit re the black goo.

Not too long ago, Kerry did a livestream presentation with David Griffin (exopolitics, Britain) and Alex Newald, author of "Haven". re this subject. It seems that these two initially brought the black oil to public attention. The Chani forum has a lot of info on this topic not only how it was connected to the Falkland War but also the Gulf of Mexico. And on her July 5th radio show, Kerry asked her guest Richard Allan Miller for his comments on the black oil.

I guess I am interested in all and any information I can get on this topic because it seems to have far reaching implications for planet Earth as well as for humanity.

I neglected to add that Miles also had interactions with the black goo when he was involved with Radio Caroline in Ireland so he is also a primary source.

[marie kayali]

I actually havnt been slandering anyone but trying to defend myself from this pack of whatever they are.The only forum Ive been is here and The One truth where i had to defend myself from Miles's henchmen or hunchbacks, not sure what they are. And the thread had to be closed and those two banned , not because of me. You're a disgrace the lot of you for what you have done and what you are still doing to me.

[marie kayali]

After this last post from Miles Johnston I have now felt it necessary to call in the police and make a complaint and arrange to have a restraining order or have him arrested for abuse, slander , gang stalking and on and off line harassment, amongst other things. My stomach can't handle these people any more , they have made me ill

[norman]

After this last post from Miles Johnston I have now felt it necessary to call in the police and make a complaint and arrange to have a restraining order or have him arrested for abuse, slander , gang stalking and on and off line harassment, amongst other things. My stomach can't handle these people any more , they have made me ill

With so much 'power' thrashing around, everyone must be right at their limits of what they can handle before becoming flighty, fighty or paranoid.

As individuals, you are each better than this dreadful dynamic knot. Please save the 'fight' for the future when things are more clear, and the 'baddies' are better identified. I think the important thing for you to be focused on right now is to be well and detached from this obvious spook setup.

My very best wishes to you too.

[marie kayali]

After this last post from Miles Johnston I have now felt it necessary to call in the police and make a complaint and arrange to have a restraining order or have him arrested for abuse, slander , gang stalking and on and off line harassment, amongst other things. My stomach can't handle these people any more , they have made me ill

With so much 'power' thrashing around, everyone must be right at their limits of what they can handle before becoming flighty, fighty or paranoid.

As individuals, you are each better than this dreadful dynamic knot. Please save the 'fight' for the future when things are more clear, and the 'baddies' are better identified. I think the important thing for you to be focused on right now is to be well and detached from this obvious spook setup.

My very best wishes to you too.


well who' life is destroyed and media banned and being slandered and abused constantly,its not coming from me

[norman]

After this last post from Miles Johnston I have now felt it necessary to call in the police and make a complaint and arrange to have a restraining order or have him arrested for abuse, slander , gang stalking and on and off line harassment, amongst other things. My stomach can't handle these people any more , they have made me ill

With so much 'power' thrashing around, everyone must be right at their limits of what they can handle before becoming flighty, fighty or paranoid.

As individuals, you are each better than this dreadful dynamic knot. Please save the 'fight' for the future when things are more clear, and the 'baddies' are better identified. I think the important thing for you to be focused on right now is to be well and detached from this obvious spook setup.

My very best wishes to you too.


well who' life is destroyed and media banned and being slandered and abused constantly,its not coming from me


From my relatively 'safe' distant viewing position, I'm fairly convinced "it's" not actually coming from any of you. Somehow or other, it seems to me, something new got in and caused all this.

If I'm right, it's going to carry on being in control of the situation for as long as any of you hold any of the others directly responsible for "it's" influences.

It's pretty clear the slack has been taken out of all your relationships. It's urgent, really, to give the jinx the slip and put at least a little more slack back into the situation, and keep it there while some passing of time and some deeper insight puts a good few pieces of this puzzle picture together in the right order.

I fear involving more of "the system", in any form, will work this backwards instead of out into good daylight.

I know this is going to sound extreme but I tend to see the whole group of you as bomb victims. Something entered the space you were sharing and exploded, with a huge bang. Bits of each other's flesh and bones have hit each other in the blast. It's not right to blame the person who's foot hit you in the chest, it's not right for them to blame your arm for hotting them in the face. The 'blame' is with the entity that exploded the space you were all occupying.

The big question is, what is that entity?

Then, why ?

Please take care.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I'm really curious what Joanne's opinion would be about all this (and it's sad Marie Kayali has bailed on PA, as I would absolutely appreciate her take on it all - as I'm sure many on Avalon would!). I'm not really surprised if she hasn't come forward, but it seems as though she's just disappeared since all this came to Light.

I appreciate AMMACH quite a bit for getting info about abductions and people's experiences out there - much like what Bill and Kerry have done for those of us constantly searching for information to discern. :) I always liked Joanne and appreciated her confidence and what I saw as a great willingness to share and learn, but there was one "incident" that occurred around a year ago or so (I can't remember, truly.) that raised the alarms for me. She had put Simon Parkes under hypnosis, and he was seeing a ritual or something of that nature, where lots of demonic-looking beings were dancing around a fire (I don't remember all the details, but I think a baby/toddler had something to do with it). Anyway, there was one moment where she was trying to get Simon to surround this one being (perhaps it was his Reptilian father?) with Love and Light, and this being was saying that he wasn't interested, that he wasn't accepting of the Love and Light, that he was a creature of Darkness or something to that effect. (I really should watch it again, seeing as I don't remember anything! :P) But Joanne kept pressing and pressing, saying that she didn't CARE if he wasn't interested or he wasn't accepting - according to her, this being was gonna accept Love and Light, no matter what they wanted.

Now, I'm all about Love and Light and everybody getting along and all that, but if a being is saying that, NO, he is NOT interested or accepting of it, isn't it spiritually "wrong" to FORCE something upon that being when he's not choosing it? That was something that was unsettling to me. After all, whether it's "better" (and what a relative term THAT is!) or not for the being to accept the Power of Love and Light, FORCING it upon him (especially when he's made his opinion known!) is no different than the globalist "elite" forcing their Darkness upon US.

Looking at the current situation, with abductees coming forward to say that Joanne had admitted that she was a Dinoid-Reptilian, it makes me wonder if her intent was never "Love and Light", as it seems to me now that, during the regression session, she was trying WAY too hard to project that energy. Trying to cover her tracks or whatever.

Am I making sense? :P <3

I know you kept saying you couldn't remember, but all I thought was well remembered! That did seem a little odd at the time, but I put it down to enthusiasm

[Holly Lindin]

I guess I am interested in all and any information I can get on this topic because it seems to have far reaching implications for planet Earth as well as for humanity.

Me, too, Sunflower! I'm right there with ya'.

A few years ago, I had an experience myself that doesn't quite sound like it IS the black goo, but it could in some way be connected (especially if the globalist "elite" - and their service-to-self extra-terrestrial/dimensional partners - are behind it). In deep meditation in 2009, I found myself as a Sylph in the Sky, and I noticed some gross, black, oil/tar-like nodules just hanging in the air (they definitely had that multi-coloured oil-slick-in-the-Sun look to them.), and my purpose in Life was to "swallow" them with my large, cloud-bird "mouth" (everything was VERY abstract when it came to my "body" as a Sylph.) and cleanse them in my tummy, then release them so they could make the people of Earth healthier, happier, and everything more harmonious (which, of course, tells us what the black substance was for - to promote illness, depression, anger, and everything disharmonious).

I thought at that point that this had something to do with chemtrails. But in hearing what the black goo is about (I definitely found Miles's interview with "Rachel", one who'd been injected with the black goo during her stay in the super-soldier program, to be informative and interesting - and it did ring as Truth to me.) - creating disharmony, disconnecting us from others and Nature and ourselves, something that obviously VERY much lowers the frequency of the planet . . . Well, it just makes me wonder if the black goo and my own experience cleansing the black goo in the Sky could be related.

Thanks so much for the tip, Sunflower. I'll hafta take a look for the Live Stream Kerry did with those guys regarding the black goo. :)

[creative_expansion]

Everybody needs to leave marie alone, its harassment and have no right posting about her when she isn't
here defending herself! those trolls should be banned and if they are im glad! that was uncalled for, all of it!

[Holly Lindin]

I know you kept saying you couldn't remember, but all I thought was well remembered! That did seem a little odd at the time, but I put it down to enthusiasm

Thanks, Seikou-Kishi! I'm downright obsessed with detail sometimes, so even when I remember 90% of a story, I wish it was more. :P Especially when trying to make a point. :)

[shadowstalker]

Something is up, Ladies and Gents, Be Careful....:suspicious:

I mean it...

[donk]

Are posts being omitted? just curious, I feel like I'm missing something

Marie I am very sorry what you are going through. My thoughts are with you...

[creative_expansion]

i want the truth out and i know a good chunk of the truth, idk why people keep listening to the bull**** its obnoxious.

[Holly Lindin]

i want the truth out and i know a good chunk of the truth, idk why people keep listening to the bull**** its obnoxious.

What do you feel is the bull being pushed on this thread? I'm really curious of your opinion - especially 'cause I'd wager most, if not all, of us here on Avalon are interested in the Truth. :)

I agree, Jana - something's weird here. But then again, we are on a weird (and wonderful! :P) planet, aren't we? ;) <3

[Sidney]

After this last post from Miles Johnston I have now felt it necessary to call in the police and make a complaint and arrange to have a restraining order or have him arrested for abuse, slander , gang stalking and on and off line harassment, amongst other things. My stomach can't handle these people any more , they have made me ill


Hi Marie, Would you mind stating specifically, what in Miles post, that you feel is "abuse, slander , gang stalking and on and off line harassment, amongst other things."??

[marie kayali]

I think this BLATANT witch hunt against me should stop now, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. I've had enough grief now why dont you all stop it , whats going on with this, are you all insane . THESE BLATANT GANG STALKING THREADS AND ABUSE against me needs to stop now

[Limor Wolf]

marie, is there any way we can support you now?

[Star Tsar]

Its best if ALL parties INVOLVED go there separate ways as Marie is very upset and the situation is getting way out of hand!
Sad state of affairs...
:(

[Agape]

Miles,

all my best wishes and prayers for everyone involved ... :angel:


I have made every effort, to support ALL the victims of this channel 4 farce.
This includes M K.
The issues now seem to stretch back 10 years, and the ultimate target, the teenage demographic.
#
I have many issues and targets in the frame.

Yet . As you've stated bellow yourself, you are not a THERAPIST . I bet sure that what you do and did is more than any ONE individual can handle .

Becoming emotionally involved as a therapist with your clients, witnesses, patients and so on is one of the most serious and un-professional mistakes that can harm all from your 'scientific protocols' to 'therapeutic intervention ' , to 'broadcasts' .

From your own statements here, you and Marie spent LONG hours on phones and in person in attempt to alleviate her sufferings .

You've gone far over the edge of what ONE person , a media broadcaster and researcher can do and bear for a witness .
Marie is obviously the one who feels that her privacy has been breached and denies any responsibility for being involved with you .

This situation IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS for yourself , and Joanne ,

and has happened to many lay researchers and therapist who volunteered their services to mentally upset and disturbed clients without them being able to provide actual therapeutic back up.

If even one of these people you worked with is actually not the healthy minded but tortured victim of ET contact as you prefer to see them in your goodness
but mentally unstable individual who claims WHATEVER
and should they turn against you , you may end up with nervous breakdown after indulging in many years play with the paranormal
or worse, be brought to court by any of these cynics .

Yes it's dangerous for you. I can only advice you to take safe refuge at one of your friends and halt communications with other targeted individuals for a good while .

Times will roll on...





For one of the posts questions, After I was creatively fired at SKY, after exposing deep and serious matters, Joanne came on in hot pursuit and asked me for weeks and weeks to do Ammach.
I finally relented, and put every possible professional effort in, on my own money to make it the best possible job, I could.
Now Ammach has been abandoned by her, and I was stabbed in the back by her, I have been exercising Duty of Care and going around ALL the victims in this very clever and targeted CH4 programme, to give whatever support I can.

It does not surprise me even a little if Joanne quit after being slandered on youtube channel, called 'reptilian' , her private information exposed in ways that resemble psychotic delusions and fantasies ( sorry but that's what such 'disclosures' inevitably bring along, along with many other such fantastic claims that had occurred in your otherwise serious and ground breaking Bases series of recent ..)




In the last few weeks after many weeks of friendly and LONG phone calls and chats, Marie K has turned vicious and has rejected ALL forms of support. Her slandering of the extremely well respected and professionally qualified Spirit Release Foundation is her choice.
EVERY support solution I have given her and reference to, she has rebuffed and slandered. I am NOT a Therapist, but I know many many extremely fine ones for many different types of issue. I am Professional Broadcast engineer, and editor. For that I refer her to other therapists, its up to her and anyone else to avail of them or not, including her GP, as Chantelle has, with very successful results

Correct . And if you were you would not be advised to be involved in Maries or anyones paranormal experiences to the deal you were, discuss their experiences in open ,
unless and that would be huge risk for you and your patients you were actually wishing to risk progradation of their symptoms, traumas etc.

That's what has happened to Marie . She needed real therapeutic intervention, especially after the death of her daughter .
Confronting her with more paranormal experiences/ experiencers in that stage, and in front of cameras was very indiscriminate choice , mental health -wise .




On the one hand she says, she has no support, when you give it ,its gang stalking.
She has the implants, she stated this, sent me the MRI Scan of her left eye (From 2010), she stated she had 2 removed many years ago. We measured B, E and RF low and high frequency field energy, implying there are about 5 to 6 in her head.

Yes she seems to be very confused at the moment but so seem to be methods used in this 'investigation'.
I understand you do all to prove the case but what is stated here did not pass the test of any scientific laboratory so far.
If you continue claiming that every form of outside science and organisation out of yourself is farce and against us ,
with more and more stress , we will be all labeled paranoid at the end , no matter the reality .
Remember 'golden middle way' .




Both her and Joanne tested positive for some kind of contact,(UV-B and UV-C) Joanne herself tested positive in 2009, at the IUFOC, and with held this data until her flight to the US, IUFOC in 2013, which Marie K PAID FOR! Why did she Not tell anyone about this Positive test. (This in addition to the published MILAB in my house in 2011, is or extreme concern)

Miles. Number one, it's everyones private matter what they have in their head . No one is or should feel obliged to give their testimony in open unless their choose to and the time again, is their sole right .
Witnesses are not criminals .

Comparing one person to another , based on such meagre research evidence screams un-professional and breach of their privacy .

It's Marie who obviously wished to come out, wished to be analyzed and involved with you .
Look at the mirror of your soul whether this was helpful to either of you , your work and life experience .
It may be time 'to walk out' from that relationship, fast and wise.



The complexity of the deception and the lies and the true targeting is extremely complex, as it seems not one player in this game is who they say they are.

You are confused . How can any of the witnesses not be ..


Please accept my humble apologies for entering this heated and emotional debate . I believe that IF both and ALL of you gave the 'ET and Paranormal' issues that seem to be controlling your life experience for a while now a HOLIDAYS ,
meet some 'normal ' people who make level headed claims ,
and are supportive and kind to each other ,

instead pursuing their agendas to the point of exhaustion, moral, intellectual and emotional,

you would be back in no time with fresh and rational views so unique to you .


Peace and BLessings


:angel:

[ktlight]

May I say here that the video in the first post mentions nothing of Marie - not one word. I do not understand why Marie thinks it does. Her posts suggests that it does. She attacks Miles and calls it defence. Miles thinks this is part of what she is dealing with, the implants disallowing and all that, and will not abandon her.

[Earth Angel]

I am wondering if that is Marie writing at all ? It doesn't sound like her to me but I only know her from watching the videos made by Miles......I find this thread very confusing, is Miles megawatt1066?? ...... I am not sure why Marie thinks we are all against her, I don't see that in these posts.....I thought basically it was Miles against Joanne.
I have only the best wishes for you Marie, I know you have been through hell losing your daughter and don't wish to cause you any more pain.

[Star Tsar]

Marie has control of her mind Earth Angel she is fed up with folks making out she is crazy.
She has lost everything that she has worked hard for & loved!
I ask you Avalonians & Avalonettes how would you be in her shoes?

[donk]

Marie has control of her mind Earth Angel she is fed up with folks making out she is crazy.
She has lost everything that she has worked hard for & loved!
I ask you Avalonians & Avalonettes how would you be in her shoes?

We're trying to understand, with only limited information, so it is very difficult. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, I personally do not assume she is crazy....or even offbase in her mention of being attacked and gangstalked, though it is difficult to discern based on the little bits we have.

I do my best to be sensitive and feel that others are as well. I can't imagine what it's like to be in anyone in this situation's shoes. Perhaps we can try to ignore all attacks (like we seem to be ignoring Sidney's question), and not worry if they are perceived or real...no doubt they are real to someone...can we accept that and move on to present more information?

[Earth Angel]

I did not mean to imply she doesn't have control of her mind....or that she is crazy.......I very much enjoyed her interviews, watched many hours of them and wish her nothing but the best......I just find this whole thread a little confusing and not sure why she thinks we are against her......


Marie has control of her mind Earth Angel she is fed up with folks making out she is crazy.
She has lost everything that she has worked hard for & loved!
I ask you Avalonians & Avalonettes how would you be in her shoes?

[Sierra]

Closing thread due to lack of clarity, charity, and a need to chill out.

None of us know the "truth" and this thread does not seem healthy at this point for anyone. We ask for patience, to give us a chance to sort this out.

Thank you. :)