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Cidersomerset
8th July 2013, 20:03
Snowden strikes again: 'NSA in bed with Germany'
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Published on 8 Jul 2013
US fugitive Edward Snowden has accused Germany and the US of partnering in spy
intelligence operations, revealing that cooperation between the countries is closer than
German indignation would indicate, Der Spiegel magazine reported. Journalist Manuel
Ochsenreiter says German politicians are furious - but about being exposed, not by
being spied on
Lifebringer
8th July 2013, 20:21
So the Nazi's Bush put in our government reach out to Hitlers daughter Angela. Yep, I said it, he didn't die until the late 80's and Angela Merkel is "supposedly" Hitlers daughter by the chick he hung out with durink da war. Seriously, I heard about it in 2009, and how they were sent to South America to hide out. Don't know if it's true, but it's as true as any other rumor being put out. Some rumors turn out to be true. This one is like a Bad guy soap opera, that never ends.
It's not surprising that the agency is in bed with Germany. The whole crew of SSG is perpetrating the Nazi agenda 21. Cheney certainly doesn't mind hanging our with the NeoNazi organizations in upstate NY. They've been in our government under the guise of national statesmen who represent their state, but when you delve a little deeper, you find their ties to the KKK.
The common enemy, "anyone, NOT like them in mind think, heart hatred of minorities, or whites that show compassion for others in the world. They call them race traitors and Libruls. Sorta the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Creator's will is gonna put some sport on them, real soon.
ghostrider
9th July 2013, 03:45
Col phillip corso claimed the CIA was run by the KGB, and the KGB was controlled by the CIA, so the NSA in bed with Nazi's ??? wouldn't surprise me... the NSA not so VIP should go MIA ASAP and if found hit em with an RPG ...the NSA the national spying agency...
Kraut
9th July 2013, 08:15
So the Nazi's Bush put in our government reach out to Hitlers daughter Angela. Yep, I said it, he didn't die until the late 80's and Angela Merkel is "supposedly" Hitlers daughter by the chick he hung out with durink da war. Seriously, I heard about it in 2009, and how they were sent to South America to hide out. Don't know if it's true, but it's as true as any other rumor being put out. Some rumors turn out to be true. This one is like a Bad guy soap opera, that never ends...
It's unlikely that Merkel is Hitler's daughter. She grew up in the part of Germany that was occupied by the Soviets after the war and then became the German Democratic Republic. She was rather cozy with the communist system there, having a career you could only have if you supported the system. Some claim that she even was a Stasi informant. There are many questions regarding her past in communism that are seldom covered by the media, but I doubt you could claim her to have Nazi ties. If at all she was a communist sympathizer or believer, to what degree she still is today, that would be interesting to know.
Besides that, the German government administrations and organizations have been in bed with the NSA and United States long before Merkel became chancellor. German people are often frustrated by that but have little say in these matters. Often the government does the opposite of what Germans want. Germans would prefer to stay out of wars, the government gets involved anyway. Germans would like the US not to store nuclear warheads in country, yet they are still here. A few years ago iirc the German foreign minister became vocal to have the nuclear warheads removed but nothing ever came of it. As usual.
When Germans got upset due to the amount of spying done by the NSA our federal minister of the interior criticized Germans for being anti-american. So much for taking his real responsibilities serious.
MadMax1
9th July 2013, 08:51
Any ally of America is into the spying game with them this should be no shock to anyone that bothers to read and follow what goes on around them they spy on each other just as much as they spy on other countries, this is a fact i am surprised that so many people think this is earth shattering news. The only difference now is Snowden is making them validate it but they will continue to lie to the public whilst continueing to spy on each other and their own people. You only have to look at the big free trade deal they are sitting down to now and hashing out between the EU and USA just shows that the EU don't really care about the spying accusations as they already knew it existed they just had no physical proof. I do not like it that my country is an ally of the USA it will make us a target in the future especially that we have a huge satellite relay station here that belongs to them.
Snookie
9th July 2013, 12:30
So the Nazi's Bush put in our government reach out to Hitlers daughter Angela. Yep, I said it, he didn't die until the late 80's and Angela Merkel is "supposedly" Hitlers daughter by the chick he hung out with durink da war. Seriously, I heard about it in 2009, and how they were sent to South America to hide out. Don't know if it's true, but it's as true as any other rumor being put out.
Creator's will is gonna put some sport on them, real soon.
According to Greg Hallet, Hitler was gay, so if that rumour is true, it's unlikely that Merkel is his daughter. I also heard/read somewhere that Hitler lived in South America (Argentina I think) as a priest for many years after the war.
I am beginning to think that Snowden just might be working for Putin.
turiya
9th July 2013, 21:58
This is a cross post from another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59919-Edward-Snowden-the-whistleblower-behind-the-NSA-surveillance-revelations&p=699673&viewfull=1#post699673)...
Snowden strikes again: 'NSA in bed with Germany'
Not to forget to mention Israel...
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/01/cryptome.gif (http://cryptome.org/)
http://www.ak3d.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ak3d_client_der_spiegel.png
7 July 2013
Interviewer: What is the mission of America's National Security Agency (NSA) -- and how is the job it does compatible with the rule of law?
Snowden: They're tasked to know everything of importance that happens outside of the United States. That's a significant challenge. When it is made to appear as though not knowing everything about everyone is an existential crisis, then you feel that bending the rules is okay. Once people hate you for bending those rules, breaking them becomes a matter of survival.
Interviewer: Are German authorities or German politicians involved in the NSA surveillance system?
Snowden: Yes, of course. We're 1 in bed together with the Germans the same as with most other Western countries. For example, we 2 tip them off when someone we want is flying through their airports (that we for example, have learned from the cell phone of a suspected hacker's girlfriend in a totally unrelated third country -- and they hand them over to us. They 3 don't ask to justify how we know something, and vice versa, to insulate their political leaders from the backlash of knowing how grievously they're violating global privacy.
Interviewer: But if details about this system are now exposed, who will be charged?
Snowden: In front of US courts? I'm not sure if you're serious. An investigation found the specific people who authorized the warrantless wiretapping of millions and millions of communications, which per count would have resulted in the longest sentences in world history, and our highest official simply demanded the investigation be halted. Who "can" be brought up on charges is immaterial when the rule of law is not respected. Laws are meant for you, not for them.
Interviewer: Does the NSA partner with other nations, like Israel?
Snowden: Yes. All the time. The NSA has a massive body responsible for this: FAD, the Foreign Affairs Directorate.
Interviewer: Did the NSA help to create Stuxnet? (Stuxnet is the computer worm that was deployed against the Iranian nuclear program.)
Snowden: NSA and Israel co-wrote it.
SOURCE (http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-en.htm)
WEBSITE (http://cryptome.org/)
Article in German (http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707.pdf)
turiya :cool:
Roisin
10th July 2013, 01:22
I wonder what Snowden's accommodations are like at that airport in Russia. Does he have his own room somewhere in that building that's got a bed and private bath in it or is sleeping in a chair in the lobby? Anyone know?
turiya
12th July 2013, 03:23
I wonder what Snowden's accommodations are like at that airport in Russia. Does he have his own room somewhere in that building that's got a bed and private bath in it or is sleeping in a chair in the lobby? Anyone know?That now-infamous Moscow airport hotel of Edward Snowden, inside and out (http://skift.com/2013/06/24/that-now-infamous-moscow-airport-hotel-inside-and-out/?viewall=1)
Jason Clampet, Skift
Jun 24, 2013 12:34 am
When ex-security contractor and world-famous government secrets leaker Edward Snowden left Hong Kong yesterday he wasn’t headed to a free country that defends press freedoms. He was transiting, instead, in a country whose leader is currently embroiled in a mini-scandal about how he stole a Super Bowl ring.
Politics aside, Snowden left what was a nice hotel in Hong Kong and crashed in a hotel on the grounds of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo International Airport until his flight to Havana was ready to depart (see details from Google Flights, below). From Havana he is expected to travel to Ecuador.
Like others stuck at airport hotels against their will — either because of delays or an unlucky work schedules — Snowden was forced to live with the hand he was dealt.
The Vozdushny Express “Capsule” hotel has one-person rooms with no windows that start at $58 for four hours and goes up to $232 for a 24-hour period. According to news reports, Snowden is traveling with at least one other person, so it’s likely he’s booked in at least the economy two-person room, which starts at $70 for four hours and goes up to $283 for 24 hours.
If he’s lucky enough to be bankrolled by a leak-friendly sponsor with deep pockets (or, possibly, has enough loyalty points at the hotel), Snowden could be in the first-class room that starts at $110 for four hours and runs to $455 for 24 hours.
Scroll through the pictures (http://www.hotelscombined.com/Hotel/Capsule_Hotel_Air_Express_SVO.htm) for a look at some windowless economy rooms that resemble rooms that Snowden hopes he won’t end up in.
SOURCE (http://skift.com/2013/06/24/that-now-infamous-moscow-airport-hotel-inside-and-out/?viewall=1)
Some examples:
http://media.hotelscombined.com/HP130587818.jpg
http://media.hotelscombined.com/HP130587820.jpg
http://m.travelocity.com/images/moscow/hotel/0/066499/Guest_room_G_4.jpg
turiya :cool:
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