Satanists Are Real... Why Missing People Statistics Are Never Made Public

[sigma6]

I'm most interested in the comments regarding how...
US infiltrated with Satanists within Police, Courts, Government...
the way they talk about the murders is amazing how apathetic, scary...
Girl Satanists since she was four...

disturbing testimony from a former satanist
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lot of twisted people out there...

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Dad works for aerospace industry...
confirms the associative personality disorder, blood drinking, etc.

Daughter of Satanist High Priest Tells of Her Experiences
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[Ernie Nemeth]

At least she changed to a more positive religion, not by much but, hey, you gatta start somewhere. I have a brother-in-law who changes religions at the drop of a hat...

Imagine consciously praying to Lucifer? Nope, can't do it. Because if you believe in the Devil you must believe in God. So, of the two, who in their right minds would choose the lesser of the powers - and the one that will abuse you and eventually kill you and discard you?

Crazy stuff...

[Prodigal Son]

At least she changed to a more positive religion, not by much but, hey, you gatta start somewhere. I have a brother-in-law who changes religions at the drop of a hat...

Imagine consciously praying to Lucifer? Nope, can't do it. Because if you believe in the Devil you must believe in God. So, of the two, who in their right minds would choose the lesser of the powers - and the one that will abuse you and eventually kill you and discard you?
Hi Ernie. A slightly more positive religion indeed. She went from worshiping Satan directly to worshiping Satan indirectly, because Bible/Quran-god is Satan.

I watched all three of the videos above, and I never heard anyone saying that they pray to Lucifer. They pray directly to and worship Satan, and Satan is not Lucifer. Lucifer is the Light Bearer, symbolized by the planet Venus, also called the Morning Star. Jesus makes a direct claim that he alone is the bright Morning Star at Revelation 22:16. Anybody who claims Lucifer is Satan is lying knowingly or unknowingly.... or just regurgitating Fundy ignorance.

[Prodigal Son]

This is a must-read for this thread, imo....

The Satanic Cult That Rules The World

http://www.savethemales.ca/the_satanic_cult_that_rules_th.html

[Curt]

Jay Parker relates some very interesting details.

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This is an interview from 2006 with 'Svali', an ex cult member. This was the interview that got me very interested in this subject.

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[4Talismans]

I once got to know a satanist quite well, and she always insisted that yahweh was the real satan. A pretender to the throne, as evidenced by his jealous and vindictive nature.
THere are atheistic satanists too. They don't believe in satan literally, but they do like the satanistic philosophy, which is basically to do as you please but be prepared for the consequences. I personally don't believe in satan at all, but thats just me.

[Curt]

Here is Russ Dizdar, police chaplain, and Christian minister.

This is a coast to coast interview in which he connects the dots between MPD/DID, Satanic ritual abuse, transgenerational bloodline satanism, the elite and the connection to project paperclip and the Nazis.

For me, it's a good 30,000 foot overview of things. Even though he comes from a decidedly Christian perspective, he offers a great deal of information that can be considered valuable.

It passes all of my B.S. detectors, for whatever that's worth.

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[ Mod-edit: The Youtube video is long gone, but perhaps the audio on this page is the same: http://preemptionbroadcast.podomatic.com/entry/2013-01-19T13_47_07-08_00 . Paul - 5 Dec 2014. ]

[Justintime]

At least she changed to a more positive religion, not by much but, hey, you gatta start somewhere. I have a brother-in-law who changes religions at the drop of a hat...

Imagine consciously praying to Lucifer? Nope, can't do it. Because if you believe in the Devil you must believe in God. So, of the two, who in their right minds would choose the lesser of the powers - and the one that will abuse you and eventually kill you and discard you?
Hi Ernie. A slightly more positive religion indeed. She went from worshiping Satan directly to worshiping Satan indirectly, because Bible/Quran-god is Satan.

I watched all three of the videos above, and I never heard anyone saying that they pray to Lucifer. They pray directly to and worship Satan, and Satan is not Lucifer. Lucifer is the Light Bearer, symbolized by the planet Venus, also called the Morning Star. Jesus makes a direct claim that he alone is the bright Morning Star at Revelation 22:16. Anybody who claims Lucifer is Satan is lying knowingly or unknowingly.... or just regurgitating Fundy ignorance.

Have you been to the Armageddon conspiracy website? They make the same claims about Lucifer, The God of the Bible and Satan. They also say the NWO is a conspiracy theory created by the OWO as a misinformation technique. They claim that the Illuminati put out there by the OWO is misinformation too and that the true Illuminati has been only real advocate for change in the history of the world. It's very good reading and makes you think about what's what. Their solution for the world is meritocracy though with a 100 percent inheritance tax. I just don't think that's a viable solution. Could this just be more misinformation put out there by the PTB?
http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/

[Curt]

An interview with David Shurter a survivor of Satanic ritual abuse in San Francisco and elsewhere in the US. He relates his personal experiences.

He connects some more interesting dots between the Military, Satanic Ritual Abuse, MPD and the 'False Memory Syndrome' groups that function to discredit victims.

He makes the point that MK Ultra and CIA/Military personality splitting programs are inextricably linked to satanic activity.

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[Kooqwena LittleOwl]

Crazy stuff is right!
Surely there is a GOD. Sadly 4 centuries most religions have corrupted the idea of GOD almost 2 the point that the masses seem 2 want noting 2 do with IT/HIM/HER so the dark religions have had increasing influence in our world & just looking around the world observing all the sickness or watching the evening news 1 can C the decrease in morality/values.
I must admit however that I can C there is far more LIGHT than darkness all around us! As the masses awaken there's appears 2 be a silent recognition that the external world is being change by an Inner Shift ---a shift from trying 2 gain material/physical satisfaction 2 finding a sense of real joy through experience of the Inner Self. Something truly wonderful is taking place & it seems 2 me that as the (sun's) Light gets brighter its shinning on/in dark places revealing what the darkness has been hiding 4 millennium. It is said that GOD/the Universe is LIGHT--Light is Life... We are dependent on Light---we breath in Light so those who worship darkness may soon find them selves homeless as the Earth is bombarded by Light from the center of this galaxy. It is a great time 2 be alive & contribute 2 the coming New Earth!

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Yes. This stuff is very real.

As I said before, reality is encrypted, and there are certain words and rituals that open certain doors, enabling people do to certain things.

The way I see it, good and evil are not represented by different entities; They are just different and opposed polarities which are part of the same thing, which just is what it is.

Disrupting the natural order of things, looking for shortcuts to achieve personal and selfish advantages is certainly destructive, not constructive.

Performing black rituals is simply not worth it, long term. The problem is that, our biological lifespan is short, so people are seduced by the powers that become available through such rituals. That´s why satanism is inherently a materialist practice, because at the moment people realize that there´s much more to life after biological death, they become aware that the consequences of adhering to such practices are far greater than its benefits.

Anyway, these polarities are inside all of us. Creation can´t exist without both of them. It´s up to us to decide to which one we direct our energy. If some people decide to take some shortcuts, so be it. The problem is that , ultimately, there are no shortcuts...When people realize that, it´s often too late...The consequences are beyond our comprehension.

Sadly, we live in a world that´s ruled by the greedy, the power thirsty, so yes, since greed is part of the negative realm, essentially we´re ruled by satanists, whether rulers know it or not. Fundamentally, the whole foundation of current society could be qualified as satanist, for a lack of a better word.

Anyway, when people say that god has created us to his image, they mostly fail to understand it. It means that creation itself has polarities, just like us (as above so bellow) , but it has not conflicts because it understand such polarities as part of a whole.

From my point of view, being whole offers much richer rewards but it´s not for the hasty. It takes patience, wisdom and humility, in order to develop enough sensibility to perceive the immense but subtle energy of wholeness, but unfortunately, most people lack these qualities, not because they had chosen to neglect them, but because the current system conditions people to immediatism since they are born.

The humanization of god leads to conflicts, because starting from the premise that god created everything, then he created evil and satan as well, which leads to the conclusion that god is not purely good...Things don´t work like that. The ultimate creator just is what it is, which is absolute and pristine balance.

For us, achieving such balance is an extremely hard task...Letting go of duality and understanding good and evil as part of a whole is very hard for our current mindset...As long as we keep falling to extremes, mankind will never achieve its full potential.

This is a complex subject, anyway...We´ve been stuck into this conflicting dualism paradigm for so long, fighting to achieve balance by moving weight to the extremes, instead of trying to find a common equilibrium point in the middle.

Personally, I don´t sympathize with any sorts of extremism, because independently of the extreme, the results are basically the same. Make a move in one extreme, and movement is also made in the other, to naturally counterbalance...This is utterly unproductive.

Raf.

[Calz]

:gaah: Dammit man ... save the children!!!

... oh yeah ... that is what is going on here ...


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Where is that written into the "holy books"???



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[Curt]

Another SRA survivor, speaking to Dr Darlene Russell. (I think Darlene Russell has a connection to a Christian deliverance ministry, but it doesn't appear to me to affect the interview.)

This survivor shares a pretty graphic story. Certain elements seem fantastical, but she delivers the info in a very matter of fact way that's sometimes chilling.

One thing that she mentioned (that seems to fit with what many other SRA survivors say) is that she doesn't speak German, but can be given 'commands' in German that she understands and follows.

Not sure what this means, or how it fits, but it is an interesting point.

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[Justintime]

Hey folks,

Yes. This stuff is very real.

As I said before, reality is encrypted, and there are certain words and rituals that open certain doors, enabling people to do certain things.

Raf.

Can you expand on this, reality being encrypted or add a link for me to read. Thanks

[Curt]

Raf,

Well said, as always. And this is a fascinating subject. But, I'm not convinced that there aren't higher consciousness entities out there who represent the extreme polarities. I happen to think they very well may exist, and that they may be said to work through humans to bring about 'effects' in our world.

Their ultimate purpose and motives cannot really be known, but certainly the results do seem dark.

The SRA phenomenon, if it is to be believed, and I do believe it, points to deeply dark practices taking place in our world at a level that is kept from the general population. They do appear to be protected at the highest levels from being truly exposed.

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Yes. This stuff is very real.

As I said before, reality is encrypted, and there are certain words and rituals that open certain doors, enabling people to do certain things.

Raf.

Can you expand on this, reality being encrypted or add a link for me to read. Thanks

Hey mate,

This is simply a matter of observation...This principle is everywhere in nature, but apparently applied in a randomized fashion, which under a deeper analyzes, is not even close to be as randomized as it seems...Everything in the universe is made of sequences of events that leads to certain results.

Think about making life plans, for instance. People carefully plan their lives, in order to achieve certain results.

Some people develop certain plans that achieve the desired results more efficiently. These plans are made of steps, or sequences of specific actions. The better the planning, the less steps are required to achieve the same desired results.

I´ll not talk about the ethical basis of planning...Ideally, you will achieve your desired results without harming anyone, but it takes longer.

The thing is, the steps themselves are not what really matters, but the meaning behind them. Reality is made of symbols which are carriers of meaning.

To understand this concept, you must understand that certain symbols, which might be represented as verbal language, written language, sequences of actions with proper opening and closure, have different levels of efficiency regarding how fast and accurately they are able to transmit and transmute the meaning from concept to reality.

The very definition of efficiency is to achieve the same results with less effort... It´s a reductive principle, and understanding the fractal nature of the universe, you also understand that is possible to reduce anything indefinitely, leading to the concentration of meaning.

In the study of occultism, you understand this relationship. You understand that there are infinite ways to achieve the same results, some more efficient than others. You understand and develop meaningful techniques that allow to achieve specific results with less efforts.

Such techniques where developed in the course of thousands of years, by exhaustive random experimentation. Apparently unrelated ingredients, words or actions carry the same essence, and when you mix, perform or verbalize them in the correct order and circumstances, they concentrate and amplify such meaning in an way that´s incomprehensible to what we call reason.

The language of the universe is too complex for us to understand, so most people don´t even try. Occultists do try and succeed sometimes.

It´s all about the reductive principle, mate...Thousands of years ago we had to smash two rocks to make fire, now all we need is to press a button. The result is the same, which is fire. This is a simplistic but practical example, meaning that the more you understand the principle behind a phenomenon, the easier it gets to manifest it.

There are shortcuts for everything, the problem is that most of the times, the required actions to discover such shortcuts are highly questionable, and ultimately, shortcuts make no sense because the important point of a trip is the journey, not the destination...By using such shortcuts, you simply miss the point...This is complicated, because these shortcuts simply remove whatever might happen between point A and point B, so you never know what you´ll be missing...Ultimately, they are no shortcuts at all.

Life is a ritual, my friend. You´re performing rituals from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to bed. Some rituals are more efficient than others, and there´s no limit to efficiency.

Lucky charms and ordinary rituals are a funny example of that...You know, some times you do certain things that inexplicably provoke certain results...Then you try it again and you have the same results somehow...Then again and again...Then eventually you try it and it fails, and soon you discard it as superstition or just coincidence, but you fail to understand that it probably only failed this time because you´re the one failing to see that there´s a missing element, something that went unnoticed before, but is essential to achieve the desired results of this given ritual.


Raf,

Well said, as always. And this is a fascinating subject. But, I'm not convinced that there aren't higher consciousness entities out there who represent the extreme polarities. I happen to think they very well may exist, and that they may be said to work through humans to bring about 'effects' in our world.

Their ultimate purpose and motives cannot really be known, but certainly the results do seem dark.

The SRA phenomenon, if it is to be believed, and I do believe it, points to deeply dark practices taking place in our world at a level that is kept from the general population. They do appear to be protected at the highest levels from being truly exposed.

Hey brother,

The question is: Are these so called entities really entities or they are just complex symbolic representations that assume certain shapes according to our common understanding and pre-established beliefs?

The thing is, our minds will always try to translate any previously unknown phenomena, in order to facilitate the process of communication and assimilation.

So, such entities could be nothing but our mind creating shapes, reducing meanings to symbols, so we can understand them from our very limited perceptive capacities.

And yes, you´re right. People who hold the knowledge will do everything they can to prevent other people from accessing it. Power and value, the way our society sees it, are directly connected to rarity, which means that power is only power when it´s in the hands of a few, and value is only value when it´s scarce.

Raf.

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The archetype Adamic - as we understand the human Adam - began to reach our quadrant of the Milky Way, the terrestrial level, there are about 9.8 billion years. Its crystallization physical (3D) would only occur 7.4 billion years ago a star in the constellation Lyra. This star system, very close to the star Vega, the 26 years light-Earth, was chosen to express the first genetic experiment mixed between Humans and Reptilians, to form the famous Draco, with about 50% of the standard genetic reptilian and 50% of the genetic pattern Adamic, Human.
So far, the plan (coordinated by Archangel Lucifer) went very well. But, in the process, Lucifer, requested help for the administration of your co-creative work in various star systems (their "Orion Arm" or "Constellation Satania"). One of the candidates for this task was the one we know
Satan as a second order Lanonadek Galaxy Anágora, direct son of Anhotak. Lucifer knew Anhotak and Archangel knew this was a proposal for a different life. But, as there was a similar purpose for the group of 21 galaxies, found that there was no harm in calling Satan.
Who was against this "request"? The Archangel Gabriel. He was the first to realize that it would give some "glitches"! But no one paid attention because the Greater Plan provided that, in the future, they were larger problems, everything would eventually resolve. Thus, cosmically, was allowed Satan
come (Galaxy Anágora for the Milky Way), co-create the service of Lucifer. But ... who "would sign" everything that was done? ... Lucifer! ... Any "blurred" made under it, it would be your responsibility!
So, what did Satan?
He came from an experience of co-creation in which genetically inserted in their creations, between 30-50% of negativity. Thus, Anhotak, which fed the emotional energy field of their children, creating the conditions for that in Anágora, they were highly competitive, surrendered to confrontation, competition and survival. Lucifer did not value this "small" aspect and gave carte blanche to Satan ... it started to enter in Children of Vega (the Dracos, the mix between Humans and Reptilians) the genetic composition competition and confrontation, in the order of almost 60% negativity, giving rise to a highly competitive and warrior.
Thus was laid the first seed of war in our sector of the galaxy.

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[Mike]

Oh man, this stuff just sickens me.

I think it was Raf who was making the point about extremes, and its a sound one...but it doesn't stop me from wanting to go to one of these satanic bunkers with a machete and a machine gun to f#ck these clowns up. I can't help but think I'd take great joy in it.

These videos put me in a strange place, and disturb me to no end - but I believe firmly that this thread should be a permanent fixture on Avalon's front page. We should always be aware of this, both the members and the hundreds of guests that visit here each day.

[Calz]

So ... what to do???

Few aside from Icke confront this.

[Mike]

So ... what to do???

Few aside from Icke confront this.

You wanna go to the bunker with me?:laser::laser:

[Curt]

Agreed. It's important for people to know that this stuff goes on and that it happens every day, and that it's organized, intelligent and inhuman.

It's not just a bunch of yahoos running around in robes, but a complex religious system with clergy, rites, rituals, and a cosmology.

And it's ancient.

Jay Parker, in some of his talks, refers to it as the Old Religion.

And when he says old, he means Babylonian old, and even antediluvian.


I think it was Raf who was making the point about extremes, and its a sound one...but it doesn't stop me from wanting to go to one of these satanic bunkers with a machete and a machine gun to f#ck these clowns up. I can't help but think I'd take great joy in it.

These videos put me in a strange place, and disturb me to no end - but I believe firmly that this thread should be a permanent fixture on Avalon's front page. We should always be aware of this, both the members and the hundreds of guests that visit here each day.

[Calz]

So ... what to do???

Few aside from Icke confront this.

You wanna go to the bunker with me?:laser::laser:


Sure ... few (that have not been banned) have my respect as much as you my friend.

[Mike]

So ... what to do???

Few aside from Icke confront this.

You wanna go to the bunker with me?:laser::laser:


Sure ... few (that have not been banned) have my respect as much as you my friend.



Well thank you sir! And right back at ya...

And you know, I'm only half kidding really. We've come to expect law enforcement, or just anyone other than us to take care of these issues (God, "issues" sounds so inadequate) that we've fallen into this routine of complacency. I can't envision the police or the FBI/CIA combing mountainous caverns in search of blood-sucking satanists, so its gonna take some "rogue" citizens to take initiative. No, not Batman Calzy;)

Speaking of which: have any of these former satanists disclosed any of the hide-outs?

[Prodigal Son]

At least she changed to a more positive religion, not by much but, hey, you gatta start somewhere. I have a brother-in-law who changes religions at the drop of a hat...

Imagine consciously praying to Lucifer? Nope, can't do it. Because if you believe in the Devil you must believe in God. So, of the two, who in their right minds would choose the lesser of the powers - and the one that will abuse you and eventually kill you and discard you?
Hi Ernie. A slightly more positive religion indeed. She went from worshiping Satan directly to worshiping Satan indirectly, because Bible/Quran-god is Satan.

I watched all three of the videos above, and I never heard anyone saying that they pray to Lucifer. They pray directly to and worship Satan, and Satan is not Lucifer. Lucifer is the Light Bearer, symbolized by the planet Venus, also called the Morning Star. Jesus makes a direct claim that he alone is the bright Morning Star at Revelation 22:16. Anybody who claims Lucifer is Satan is lying knowingly or unknowingly.... or just regurgitating Fundy ignorance.

Have you been to the Armageddon conspiracy website? They make the same claims about Lucifer, The God of the Bible and Satan. They also say the NWO is a conspiracy theory created by the OWO as a misinformation technique. They claim that the Illuminati put out there by the OWO is misinformation too and that the true Illuminati has been only real advocate for change in the history of the world. It's very good reading and makes you think about what's what. Their solution for the world is meritocracy though with a 100 percent inheritance tax. I just don't think that's a viable solution. Could this just be more misinformation put out there by the PTB?
http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/

I've been reading that site on and off for over a year. They make lots of good points. 95% resonates with me. But when allegedly enlightened people are sticking with the Osama + 19 idiots with boxcutters fairy tale I have to really question their motives. Those are the guys Fulford refers to as the "Gnostic Illuminati".

[RMorgan]

Speaking of which: have any of these former satanists disclosed any of the hide-outs?

These hideouts are everywhere, mate.

When eventually the police finds out one of them, they are portrayed like regular kidnapping situations.

There are several cases where women are held captive for years, get pregnant a bunch of times, and when the police comes knocking, there´s no sign of the kids...Then the media throws out the same old story that the kidnapper murdered the kids and then burned their corpses or something like that.

Besides, a lot of poor people from poor countries end up selling their babies to these folks, mostly believing they will be handled to adoption, while in fact they will be used in sacrificial rituals, child prostitution and organ trafficking, which is all part of the same network...This thing is global, mate; It´s huge.

These folks are everywhere indeed, and they are really dangerous.

[chocolate]

Just like Raf, I stand behind the idea that the two polarities are just what they are. And that we need the one in order to know the other. Not that I want any children hurt, but looking from the perspective of a karmic choice, may be it becomes easier to comprehend the truth.

Today I was listening to an interview about the archons as a creation of Sophia by mistake. And it all made sense when I was reading also Raf's posts and that our Gods could be the greatest archons.

We are all a varied combination of "positive" and "negative". It is a matter of self knowledge, discipline, choice and determination to give more power to the creative part in us.

<It is all over the buddhist teachings, like I always tend to nag>.

Not to forget, thanks for the information, some of it, disturbing as it might be, is good to know. Especially for "head in the clouds" people like myself.

That is the link of the interview about archons and sophia I was listening to [the part in question starts at around 1 hour 17 mins]: SkenqelrXsk

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I think that Satanists will find Hell is still a place of condemnation and their "god" is the worse to them there than their current "universe." Hell on Earth, is in their makings and the opposite teachings regarding Satan. The worship of evil especially "satanic evil", or God of the Christianity religion that participates with Anti Christi, Revelations for the return of their "savior." It destroys life no matter what. It's so easy to think of Satanists gathered, etc. to destroy all that's alive. If they want their "balance", they must first have simpler reactions to reconcile, reducing life to the energy life assumes forms from, before the "evils" can assume dominance or permanence. It'll target the young and the lost.

[Curt]

Here are four videos on Satanic Ritual Abuse in Scotland. Laurie Matthew is a campaigner against the abuse of children in the UK. She lives in Dundee, close to Aberdeen.

(As many will recall, Aberdeen, Scotland is where the Holly Greig abuse took place.)

The first video contains a lot of information on Laurie's anti-abuse foundation, 18 and Under but also some testimony, and a general outline of what will be covered in subsequent videos.

In these videos she lists places where abuse takes place, and shares a great deal of insight into how this abuse is carried out.

To get into the meat of her story, skip the first video and watch 2-4.

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[Curt]

Here is an investigative report on the 'Dutroux Affair' in Belgium.

It involved child kidnapping and the procurement of kidnapped children for elite sex parties involving the wealthy and powerful.

One victim claims on camera that these parties were being used to blackmail officials, among other things, and that these affairs were 'big business', and 'well organized'.

Despite the testimony of several victims, and despite the specific and accurate descriptions of sites where murders took place, there was no justice.

Prosecutors botched it. DNA wasn't taken. Abusers were protected. Witnesses were murdered. Poisoning. Car crashes.

The official story is that Duttroux did it all alone, Lone Gunman Style. Seems like a common thread in occult murders involving the powerful elite.

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[Curt]

Here is a video (in several parts) about another sexual abuse network. It involves a young woman with Downs Syndrome named Hollie Grieg, her mother Anne and their family.

The man speaking in the presentation is Robert Green who has acted as an advocate for Hollie and her mother, and has attempted to seek justice for Hollie.

This story is unique in that Robert Green is naming names of those involved, and lays out a very sober and persuasive case that involves the highest judicial officer in Scotland, social workers, police, and beyond.

It takes place in Aberdeen, Scotland.

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[Curt]

Here's another documentary that was supposed to have aired on the Discovery Channel, but was pulled and never saw the light of day until the Internet resurfaced it a few years ago.

The affair is called the Franklin Coverup. This documentary is called Conspiracy of Silence.

It involves drugs, child prostitution and a massive conspiracy stretching from Boy's Town, (A Catholic children's charity in Nebraska) all the way to the White House.

It's easily the most credible evidence that this 'thing' is real and that it's everywhere.

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[Curt]

Kevin Annett, a former Christian Minister from Canada, discovered a decades' long attempt by the United Church (and the Catholic Church), and the Canadian State, to abuse, rape and kill native children and steal their parents' land.

This isn't ancient history. It's from the 1960's to recently.

It's not Satanic Ritual Abuse, but has many of the hallmarks: big money, pedophile rings, mass graves of children, coverups, and the connection between church, state and business in conducting and covering up abuse.

This, and all the previous videos I've posted, are hard to watch as they cover very dark material.

But, I wanted to put all these pieces of the puzzle together in one thread so people who care to see, can see it all in context.

To whatever God is out there, Kali, or the Universal Goddess, I personally pray that this all ends and that the victims receive peace and the perpetrators receive justice.

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[Mike]

Awesome. Thanks Curt for all the vids!

'Conspiracy of Silence' is another must see.....recently posted on the Ted Gunderson thread.

[Curt]

You're right, Mike. That definitely belongs in the thread. If you can find it, please drop it in a post in here so all the material is in one place.

Awesome. Thanks Curt for all the vids!

'Conspiracy of Silence' is another must see.....recently posted on the Ted Gunderson thread.

[Mike]

I will. Gotta get to the library first - don't know how to.do the video thing on this phone brother.

[PurpleLama]

I will. Gotta get to the library first - don't know how to.do the video thing on this phone brother.
Sure, sure, make somebody else do all the work. Sheesh.

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[Mike]

I will. Gotta get to the library first - don't know how to.do the video thing on this phone brother.
Sure, sure, make somebody else do all the work. Sheesh.

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[Curt]

Hey Purple, and Mike, I'm realizing now that the Conspiracy of Silence video is the same video I posted earlier.

I had referred to it as Franklin Coverup in a previous post rather than the correct name of the documentary.

Sorry, guys. Wild goose chase over. :smokin:

But, Ted Gunderson has some other stuff that would be really relevant, like his talks on the McMartin Preschool Case.

I've seen his presentations on the subject before; it's compelling stuff.

If someone has a good link to those interviews/presentations with Ted, please drop them in this thread if you have a chance.

If not, I'll try to remember to do it tomorrow.

[Mike]

essentially a rehash, but this guy, and this topic, deserve all the attention they can get.

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[seeker/reader]

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[Curt]

Here's another interview with a former cult member, 'Mary Ann', in which she speaks about illuminist rituals, child sacrifice, and the beliefs and religious practices of cult members.

The interview is with Henry Makow. He's had a pretty nasty spat with David Icke and others. He has some ideas that may or may not have merit.

But putting that aside, this is still an interesting interview.

It's in 5 parts.

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[sigma6]

Lots of great responses. I didn't realize this post would strike such a powerful cord. It wasn't my intention to promote Institutionalized Re-Legions. But as much as I dont' agree with them, at least they are publicly recorded entities and people are free to go there or leave. Yes, there are many levels to this, obviously the top of the pyramid in my mind is the Vatican. The number one murderer of human souls on this planet. Quite a track record.

The biggest conclusion that I draw from many of these Satanic Cults is the element of secrecy. There is a dual purpose here. I find all pyramid type cults operate on a multiple agenda approach. The real evil doers hide themselves almost anywhere within the pyramid. (like agents in the Matrix) It is set up to attract people along many lines, some are born into it, others bribed, others threatened, by blackmail and so on. It is complex, as such is their way, full of secrecy, occultism etc.

The key thing that fascinates me is how it's main function is to operate in secrecy. The whole Satanic principle seems to operate in this secrecy. Thus it's resilience as a social organization structure. It attracts those that feel they can't make it in the real world, on an open and even playing field. So I guess there will always be a market for people like that. Because of this, it can operate and work with organized crime, corrupt government, and even Secret Societies are susceptible to it.



Looks like JFK had it right... In my experience most people who keep secrets (as opposed to privacy, which they always try to 'rationalize' it as, something totally different) are essentially LYING. Thus if you sort out in your mind the difference between simple exercising privacy (like how many times I went to the bathroom, and what colour my underwear is, and who I am sleeping with, etc... and yes there is a fine line, but it is a good place to focus as it leads to a good philosophical exercise in balancing what is good and virtuous vs what is evil and manipulative etc...)

Anyhow I largely equate SECRECY with EVIL and Secret Societies attract manipulative liars.... And this is the outcome...
to quote JFK:

"...and that is why the Athenian Lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy, and that is why our press was protected by the first amendment..." (can you imagine!!??)

because it is only in the arena of controversial argument, much like the cage fighting of the MMA... is this idea of keeping these fine lines sorted... That is my solution. Political correctness is the antithesis of this...

Just a thought came to mind... (ie. this isn't directly related to this thread as an inference, as the responses have been quite resonant... so maybe this might be a good place to share this thought/vision...)

The topic of debating "controversies" - or aka "getting to the bottom of things"....
I am not suggesting arguing for the sake of arguing, or making cheap critical comments for a cheap (pat yourself on the back) payoff... But I see and encourage honest critical assessment of what doesn't make sense to YOU! This involves speaking from your conscience. Everyone has this right (and maybe even duty, especially here on Avalone)

And it is OK to be wrong, that is the beauty. Once brought into the public arena of debate, it will eventually be dissected, analyzed and beaten to death. But in that wondrous process, everyone will be educated, will learn and understand what constitutes a valid argument and what does not. Champions will arise, and false prophets and evil doers exposed, eventually... in the final analysis.... in essence people's souls will be tempered,


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Let's not forget the reason why they killed JFK. It was because he was more a philosopher then a sophist. If people listened and started to emulate his thinking imagine the world we would be living in today. The more I listen to it, the more profound it becomes. I think I am going to transcribe it.

[Mike]

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[Curt]

Jay Parker presenting at the Free Your Mind Conference - 2011

Here, former SRA Victim, Jay Parker, gives an overview of how the 'old religion' works- its politics, background- and he offers lots of material for further study.

In particular, he offers an insider's perspective on the cult's purpose for inflicting trauma on its members.

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[Curt]

Many here will already be familiar with Cathy O'brien's testimony and her work.

She is an MK Ultra survivor, and a victim of ritual abuse. In this presentation, Cathy covers the way in which DID/MPD occurs, and how the phenomenon can be used by the PTB for various purposes.

Her testimony centers largely on the political players and institutions involved in perpetuating this abuse.

She offers an insider's view on the mechanics of manipulation and the mechanics of traumatizing a population.

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[Mike]

Thanks so much for your diligence here Curt!

Great post above by Sigma too.

One thing I'd love to see, is one of these former satanists reveal a *soft spot* in the structure( if possible). Or for one of them to perhaps anonymously offer up incontrovertible evidence, implicating other high ranking members. For example: are any of these rituals videotaped? Are pictures taken? Is it run like a business, with documents and faxes and so forth? Surely there has to be something...

[Curt]

I agree, and I think some hard evidence would have to exist somewhere. And it seems like a great many of the people involved in rituals say they are videotaped and pictures are taken.



Thanks so much for your diligence here Curt!

Great post above by Sigma too.

One thing I'd love to see, is one of these former satanists reveal a *soft spot* in the structure( if possible). Or for one of them to perhaps anonymously offer up incontrovertible evidence, implicating other high ranking members. For example: are any of these rituals videotaped? Are pictures taken? Is it run like a business, with documents and faxes and so forth? Surely there has to be something...

[Mike]

I agree, and I think some hard evidence would have to exist somewhere. And it seems like a great many of the people involved in rituals say they are videotaped and pictures are taken.



Thanks so much for your diligence here Curt!

Great post above by Sigma too.

One thing I'd love to see, is one of these former satanists reveal a *soft spot* in the structure( if possible). Or for one of them to perhaps anonymously offer up incontrovertible evidence, implicating other high ranking members. For example: are any of these rituals videotaped? Are pictures taken? Is it run like a business, with documents and faxes and so forth? Surely there has to be something...



Not for me, mind you - I'm already beyond convinced.;)

...evidence to prosecute these sick f#cks...

[Curt]

I find it pretty convincing, too.

But, it would be good to have solid proof.

Then again, I'm not sure what someone with solid proof would do with it.

Going to an alphabet agency, to the cops or to the courts could be risky for their health.

In the Dutroux affair in Belgium, DNA wasn't taken, forensics were botched, etc.

And in the Franklin Coverup, the FBI told the abuse victims they'd go to jail for perjury if they went ahead with their stories.

One woman did go down for perjury, I think, in the end.

But there's got to be enough decent people in positions of power that someone could do something about it. Unless the whole world's been bodysnatched. :rapture:

Scary stuff.



I agree, and I think some hard evidence would have to exist somewhere. And it seems like a great many of the people involved in rituals say they are videotaped and pictures are taken.



Thanks so much for your diligence here Curt!

Great post above by Sigma too.

One thing I'd love to see, is one of these former satanists reveal a *soft spot* in the structure( if possible). Or for one of them to perhaps anonymously offer up incontrovertible evidence, implicating other high ranking members. For example: are any of these rituals videotaped? Are pictures taken? Is it run like a business, with documents and faxes and so forth? Surely there has to be something...



Not for me, mind you - I'm already beyond convinced.;)

...evidence to prosecute these sick f#cks...

[Mike]

yeah it's a sobering reality Curt. where to go with the info?

in my heart of hearts, i hope that something so overwhelming will emerge, something incontrovertible, something perhaps that affects people of influence (who aren't indoctrinated into this madness) who have the time and resources to endure the ride.

in my alternate scenario, less realistic of course, maybe an anonymous former member releases a video that goes viral of, say, a hooded George Bush, robe and all, participating in the madness:)

it occurred to me today to use one of their tactics, to perhaps infiltrate the cult, gain people's trust and so on...and then go from there. wait, how does that old phrase go? easier said than done? something like that right? of course in this fantasy, fantasy #3, said individual is a borderline ninja;), is aware of the dangers, knows the territory so to speak, and has the mental and physical and intuitive wherewithal to battle these freaks on their home turf. damnit, why don't the good guys have any super-soldiers?

this might be the dumbest post ive ever made on Avalon, ha!

[seeker/reader]

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The satanist damned a world to come. :hail: :ballchain:

[Kano]

What I'd like to know are the tell tale signs to look for since one of these families could be my neighbor. Are there any overt indications that would be a tip off that a certain person was in fact involved in the "Old Religion"?

[seeker/reader]

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[Kano]

Can anyone recommend some books that would help me have more insight into who these generational satantists are in my neck of the woods? Thanks very much in advance!

[Carmody]

I find it pretty convincing, too.

But, it would be good to have solid proof.

Then again, I'm not sure what someone with solid proof would do with it.

Going to an alphabet agency, to the cops or to the courts could be risky for their health.

In the Dutroux affair in Belgium, DNA wasn't taken, forensics were botched, etc.

And in the Franklin Coverup, the FBI told the abuse victims they'd go to jail for perjury if they went ahead with their stories.

One woman did go down for perjury, I think, in the end.

But there's got to be enough decent people in positions of power that someone could do something about it. Unless the whole world's been bodysnatched. :rapture:

Scary stuff.



I agree, and I think some hard evidence would have to exist somewhere. And it seems like a great many of the people involved in rituals say they are videotaped and pictures are taken.



Thanks so much for your diligence here Curt!

Great post above by Sigma too.

One thing I'd love to see, is one of these former satanists reveal a *soft spot* in the structure( if possible). Or for one of them to perhaps anonymously offer up incontrovertible evidence, implicating other high ranking members. For example: are any of these rituals videotaped? Are pictures taken? Is it run like a business, with documents and faxes and so forth? Surely there has to be something...



Not for me, mind you - I'm already beyond convinced.;)

...evidence to prosecute these sick f#cks...

Find me a Judge in North America, that is not a Freemason.

Good Luck with that.

[Curt]

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[Mike]

I find it pretty convincing, too.

But, it would be good to have solid proof.

Then again, I'm not sure what someone with solid proof would do with it.

Going to an alphabet agency, to the cops or to the courts could be risky for their health.

In the Dutroux affair in Belgium, DNA wasn't taken, forensics were botched, etc.

And in the Franklin Coverup, the FBI told the abuse victims they'd go to jail for perjury if they went ahead with their stories.

One woman did go down for perjury, I think, in the end.

But there's got to be enough decent people in positions of power that someone could do something about it. Unless the whole world's been bodysnatched. :rapture:

Scary stuff.



I agree, and I think some hard evidence would have to exist somewhere. And it seems like a great many of the people involved in rituals say they are videotaped and pictures are taken.



Thanks so much for your diligence here Curt!

Great post above by Sigma too.

One thing I'd love to see, is one of these former satanists reveal a *soft spot* in the structure( if possible). Or for one of them to perhaps anonymously offer up incontrovertible evidence, implicating other high ranking members. For example: are any of these rituals videotaped? Are pictures taken? Is it run like a business, with documents and faxes and so forth? Surely there has to be something...



Not for me, mind you - I'm already beyond convinced.;)

...evidence to prosecute these sick f#cks...

Find me a Judge in North America, that is not a Freemason.

Good Luck with that.


How about Judge Judy?

[sdv]

Not all those who abduct people and use them in rituals are Satanists. Most aren't.

Not all Satanists abduct people to use in ritual. Most don't.

I agree that Satanism is a broad term encompassing various beliefs and groups, but would you describe the Illuminati as Satanists?

[Kano]

Not all those who abduct people and use them in rituals are Satanists. Most aren't.

Not all Satanists abduct people to use in ritual. Most don't.

I agree that Satanism is a broad term encompassing various beliefs and groups, but would you describe the Illuminati as Satanists?

Hi sdv,

Please say more bc from what I can tell, yes, I would characterize the illuminati as Satanists.

[Mike]

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[Cidersomerset]

I posted this thread the other day, just as well post it here for ref.........

Satanic cult blamed for killing of Dartmoor pony in full moon ritual ( Caution Graphic photos )


THE TELEGRAPH......


Satanic cult blamed for killing of Dartmoor pony in full moon ritual
A Satanic cult has been blamed for the horrific death of a pony which was mutilated
in a ring of fire during a full moon.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02627/dartmoor_2627808b.jpg

Jenny Thornton, of the South West Equine Protection, said Dartmoor ponies have
become easy targets because they are used to being fed by humans Photo: PA

By Daniel Johnson, and agencies
8:09AM BST 26 Jul 2013



Police are investigating after the two-month old male was found surrounded by
circular patches of burnt moorland, with traces of white paint on one of its legs.
Experts believe this suggests it was killed as part of a bizarre ceremony, after a
spate of animal sacrifices by gangs of satanic worshippers on Dartmoor. The male
was found with its tongue and eyes cut out, and its genitals and right ear sliced off
at Yennadon Down, a remote, bushy area of the Devon National Park. Karla
McKechnie, Dartmoor’s Livestock Protection Officer, said she feared “witches or
devil worshippers” were behind the slaughter.

"We do get strange things happening from time to time, normally when it’s a full
moon”, Ms McKechnie said.

"I've come across strange circles in the ground, boulders used as altars, that sort of
thing, but thankfully animal mutilations are rare.

"I suspect its witches or devil worshippers but it's always hard to get to the bottom
of it. "My main concern is how someone has been able to walk up to a foal and kill
it in the middle of the night. I'm almost certain more than one person was
involved."

Jenny Thornton, of the South West Equine Protection, said Dartmoor ponies have
become easy targets because they are used to being fed by humans. Ms Thornton
said: "I've seen plenty of dead animals but this was horrendous. The belly has been
sliced open. It's a boy and its genitals had been cut off.

"The tongue had been pulled out and his eyes are missing. There have always been
rumours of animal sacrifices and sheep have been found dead in the past, often
around the time of a full moon.

"All we can be absolutely certain of is that someone has caused unnecessary
suffering to an animal, possibly severe suffering if it was still alive at the time."

Last year a two-year-old horse belonging to Dawn Jewell, 27 was found mutilated
on the day of satanic animal sacrifice. Eric was found dead in his field near Stithians
close to Falmouth, Cornwall, with his right eye gouged out, his teeth removed and
his genitals hacked off after a full moon. As police hunted those responsible,
Inspector Chris Strickland said there was "a strong possibility" that Eric was the
victim of a satanic ritual. Speaking at the time, he said: "There are people out there
with these beliefs. It's one line we will pursue."

In 2006 around 100 sheep animals were found slaughtered with their tongues, eyes
and sexual organs removed on Dartmoor. And in June of this year police appealed
for information after two horses were found with "gaping" knife wounds in
neighbouring fields in the village of Stokeinteignhead, Devon.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10203728/Satanic-cult-blamed-for-killing-of-Dartmoor-pony-in-full-moon-ritual.html

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Satanic cult blamed for ritualistic killing of Dartmoor foal which was horrifically
mutilated in centre of ring of fire during full moon
Genitals, ear and tongue sliced during what is thought to be a satanic ritual
There are fears the stricken animal may have been alive during its ordeal

The pony was found in a remote part of Devon National Park on Tuesday
Patches of burned grass surrounded it and it had white paint on it's leg



By Stuart Woledge

PUBLISHED: 16:37, 25 July 2013 | UPDATED: 08:45, 26 July 2013


A Satanic cult has been blamed for the sickening death of a pony, which was found
horrifically mutilated and laying in the remnants of a ring of fire after full moon.
Police are investigating after the young male had its genitals, right ear and tongue
sliced off, and eyes gouged out. It is thought the animal may have been alive when
the atrocities were committed.Its belly was hacked open and the young pony also
had traces of white paint on one of its legs, suggesting it was killed as part of a
bizarre ceremony.

GRAPHIC CONTENT WARNING

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Sickening: The body of this two-month-old foal was found horrifically mutilated and
there are fears it is the work of Satanists It was also surrounded by circular patches
of burnt moorland, which experts believe were left by a ring of torches or candles.
The two-month old pony seemed to have been dragged into a clearing and placed
at the foot of a slope to face the previous night’s full moon.It was found on Tuesday
morning by a horse rider at Yennadon Down, a remote, area of Devon National
Park. Animal welfare officers are investigating and police have appealed to the
public to be extra vigilant.Horse carers believe the butchery was part of an evil
occult or Pagan ceremony by Devil worshippers.Dartmoor’s Livestock Protection
Officer Karla McKechnie said: 'We do get strange things happening from time to
time, normally when its a full moon.


'I’ve come across strange circles in the ground, boulders used as altars, that sort of
thing, but thankfully animal mutilations are rare.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/25/article-2377782-1AFC885D000005DC-315_634x434.jpg

Cult: The foal was found surrounded by patches of burnt grass, suggesting candles
had been lit during the ritual. It also had white paint of one of it's legs

'I suspect its witches or devil worshippers but it’s always hard to get to the bottom
of it.'My main concern is how someone has been able to walk up to a foal and kill it
in the middle of the night.I’m almost certain more than one person was involved.'
South West Equine Protection's Jenny Thornton believed Dartmoor ponies had
become so used to being fed by humans they were now easy targets.

She said: 'I’ve seen plenty of dead animals but this was horrendous.


Clues: Marks on the ground including burnt patches of ground suggest it was the
work of Satanists
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/25/article-2377782-1AFC886B000005DC-483_634x402.jpg



'The belly has been sliced open. It’s a boy and its genitals had been cut off. The
tongue had been pulled out and his eyes are missing. 'There have always been
rumours of animal sacrifices and sheep have been found dead in the past,
often around the time of a full moon.'All we can be absolutely certain of is that
someone has caused unnecessary suffering to an animal, possibly severe suffering
if it was still alive at the time.'

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/25/article-2377782-1AFC884D000005DC-206_634x483.jpg

Easy target: Experts believe ponies have become so used to humans they are
vulnerable to this sort of attack. Pictured here, the foal's mother Dartmoor and the
surrounding countryside in Devon and Cornwall has been dogged by rumours of
Satanic rituals for years.In 2012 a two-year-old horse called Eric belonging to Dawn
Jewell, 27, was found mutilated on the day of satanic animal sacrifice.

He was found dead in his field in Stithians, near Falmouth, Cornwall, after a full
moon with his right eye gouged out, his teeth removed and his genitalia hacked off.
Remote: The dead foal was found in Yennadon Down by a rider on Tuesday. An
investigation into its grisly end is underway The horrific attack happened on St
Winebald Day, a date in the satanic calendar traditionally celebrated with bloody
rituals.

In 2006 around 100 sheep animals were found slaughtered with their tongues, eyes
and sexual organs removed on Dartmoor.

The bodies had been arranged in a Satanic star shape, known as a pentangle, or
laid out in a circle with their necks broken.In June of this year police appealed for
information after two horses were found with 'gaping' knife wounds in neighbouring
fields in the village of Stokeinteignhead, Devon.Locals feared the two thoroughbred
were attacked to mark the summer solstice, a key date in the Satanic calender.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2377782/Satanic-cult-blamed-ritualistic-killing-Dartmoor-foal-horrifically-mutilated-centre-ring-moon.html#ixzz2aC7XC7N7
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[Mike]

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[Mike]

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p.s. lets keep this thread alive guys. one of the most important here, in my humble opinion.

[sigma6]

T'anks Chinaski.... (just enough to keep it alive... )

This is stolen from MU 2143, just wanted to add it to this thread for posterity... and a bump/call out
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63882-The-Satanic-HIVE-Mind-Exposed--Video-&p=737288&viewfull=1#post737288

It's starts out heavy Christian thumpin' but goes into some really good subliminal Illuminati exposure...

Just keep your mind open to the fact people have different ways of interpreting things... what others consider literal others see metaphorical... and if you ever read (Origin of Conscious... Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes, a must read imo)

In a nutshell ALL LANGUAGE is the result of metaphor generation... much like computer catch phrases, (i.e. mouse, desktop, folders, icons, etc.... metaphors are 'functional devices', similar to what the courts do... (what is really meant by "legal fiction"... but that's another story... ;) the point is, the flip side is along with their accuracy they also guarantee a certain level of "inaccuracy"...

Depending on which part of the "definition/correlation/functional equivalency" you focus on, you gather deeper meaning, or you can hide it, I learned this from looking at the context of dictionary defintions, (written by freemasons) they focus on certain parts of the meaning while definitely "talking around" other aspects of the word's true meaning, this is the beginning of establishing "codes"... hidden meaning, in Latin "occult" which means "hidden"

So you might say I am with the metaphorical Interpretationalists... (ahh yeah... that's a philosophical movement coming to a neighbourhood near you...) i.e. don't be afraid to make your own symbolic connections... that is what mind does, that is what makes your intellect more 'artistic' - the connections are there, because the language is all derived from the same collective of words we all share, it's a web of interconnections, meanings and connotations... consider other people's associations as their artistic interpretation at the very least... free your mind...

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open your mind, savour on that red pill like a lozenge... hehe

[sigma6]

Svali Interview , the previous link in someone's window was 'removed'...

Svali illuminati defector
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FBI EXPOSED by ex-FBI Head about Elite's Satanic Child Rituals CIA Satanism Pedophilia
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[Flash]

the last video in Sigma 6 post right above is about the way children having been victims of satanism are treated in the state of Connecticut: they are given to the satanists, even when they are not their parents.

In the STATE OF CONNECTICUT - who would have guessed? Sandy Hook maybe? It seems that this states is a nest of Satanism, including Parker's testimony, etc.Now I understan why you were so adamant that Sandy Hook was a false flag Sigma 6.

Ouf, difficult to take. And it seems that there is no telltale or signs to notice in order to guess our neighbour is one. When we do not know what to look for, we miss on it. The only sign are the children themselves and this gives no proofs, proofs that would not be listened to if they existed, by the establishment.

[Hervé]

I'm most interested in the comments regarding how...
US infiltrated with Satanists within Police, Courts, Government...

[...]

Well, in that thread you'll find the how, the why and how it is being maintained:

POLICE STATE? How it came about in the US of A (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26195-POLICE-STATE-How-it-came-about-in-the-US-of-A)

... and how and why Connecticut and Massachusetts became such hives for that... thing.

[Flash]

I am presently looking at the movie inception right now. Talk about split personalities!! But mostly talk about implanting subtle ideas on which people will act through the dreams or the astral methods.

I do think that the Satanist methods are at the bottom row of what is actually going on.

I do think that in the higher échelons, the "inception" methods are used and that entire wars are fought at that level. Until higner inner levels are reached, on an individual and collective basis.

What put me on that track was a video of Maria Kayali where she was mentioning how her daughter thaught she was used to harm people in the dream/astral world. It also corresponds with the way thoughtforms could contaminate us.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

At least she changed to a more positive religion, not by much but, hey, you gatta start somewhere. I have a brother-in-law who changes religions at the drop of a hat...

Imagine consciously praying to Lucifer? Nope, can't do it. Because if you believe in the Devil you must believe in God. So, of the two, who in their right minds would choose the lesser of the powers - and the one that will abuse you and eventually kill you and discard you?

Crazy stuff...

Your question was very good and I felt like saying, "because some people lack the patience (concern for the future) required to wait on God".

It's kind of like the prodigal son, in the Bible. People turn from God to Satan because it's gratifying, makes them feel powerful (on earth), "part of something real", you name it!
Some people are also acting on subconscious desires (self esteem issues, violent upbringing, etc.)...

If you've read the story about the prodigal son, remember that when he comes back to his father (empty-handed), he is best able to continue God's work...

We all too often "render unto Ceasar" until we are exhausted -- but all God wants from us, to start with, is a chance to help us.
People don't always realize, Satan isn't just some thing people worship in dark rooms over cups of blood.
Satan is the "powers of darkness in heavenly places", against which we contend by means of prayer and speaking out against ignorance and evil.
He isn't something so easily captured as books like the Grand Grimoire claim.

There's a little bit of his kingdom in every human heart :(

Good thing we can turn the lease over to the Good Side. :)

[jackovesk]

I'm most interested in the comments regarding how...
US infiltrated with Satanists within Police, Courts, Government...
the way they talk about the murders is amazing how apathetic, scary...
Girl Satanists since she was four...

disturbing testimony from a former satanist
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lot of twisted people out there...


I believe this girls testimony and how Satanism is rife throughout the globe...:yes4:

However (Benny Hinn) a Man of God...:noidea:

Not so sure about that...:confused:

http://www.treysnutshell.com/images/tv-pastors/benny%20hinn%20jet.jpg


Benny Hinn is amongst a short list of ministries that have repeatedly been accused of financial misconduct: Paula White, Kenneth Copeland, Eddie L. Long, Mike Murdock, Creflo Dollar, etc...

http://www.treysnutshell.com/nutshell-pages/tv-pastors/Benny-Hinn.html

[Hervé]

Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor Speaks Out (http://henrymakow.com/2013/11/Satanic-Ritual-Abuse-Survivor-Speaks-Out.html)

November 3, 2013


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ANOTHER VICTIM OF SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE DESCRIBES HOW THE ILLUMINATI TORTURE AND SHATTER THE MINDS OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN IN ORDER TO CONTROL THEM

"From birth, Illuminati cult children are ritualistically drugged and tortured until they reach adulthood. This causes a child's personality to split; the child becomes easily controlled and, like Jenny, may develop multiple personalities. "
"From birth, cult children are ritualistically drugged and tortured until they reach adulthood. This causes a child's personality to split; the child becomes easily controlled and, like Jenny, may develop multiple personalities. "
- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/#sthash.NLhphAv9.dpuf


by Charlotte
(henrymakow.com)

Each time a survivor of Satanic ritual abuse (SRA) recovers and speaks out, he or she provides hope.

But the story of survivor Jenny Hill (http://www.henrymakow.com/www.22faces.com), 22 Faces, by Judy Byington, gives me hope that humanity can and will stop SRA.

Ritual Abuse usually involves repeated abuse over an extended period of time. The physical abuse is severe, sometimes including torture and witnessing human sacrifice. The sexual abuse is usually painful, humiliating, intended as a means of gaining dominance over the victim. The psychological abuse involves indoctrination and mind control techniques which give the victim a profound terror of the cult members ...most victims are in a state of dissociation."

Not all ritual abusers are Satanists though, and not all Satanists ritually abuse. According to this SRA survivor (http://daffodilrites.blogspot.com/2013/02/how-do-you-know-savile-to.html), there are two types:

1) Religious "Illuminati bloodline" Satanists who believe human (especially child) sacrifice brings power.

2) Sadistic pedophiles using Satanism for thrills. Sometimes attached to government projects, they are skilled at procuring children (Marc Dutroux, Jimmy Savile). This is why sadistic pedophiles so frequently escape justice: (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/314185/CHARLES-LINKS-TO-SAVILE) Type 2s are used to supply the powerful Type 1s.


22 FACES

Jenny Hill, bloodline, survived SRA by both types of Satanist. Type 2 we will never understand but Type 1 are born into the Illuminati religion, practiced for millennia. From birth, cult children are ritualistically drugged and tortured until they reach adulthood. This causes a child's personality to split; the child becomes easily controlled and, like Jenny, may develop multiple personalities.

According to survivor, Svali (http://henrymakow.com/141002.html), higher level bloodline children are directed into influential positions. The cult has infiltrated governments, judiciaries, media and academia. But life in the cult can be unbearable; damaged sadists vie for power, to thrive means to hurt others. Many members have had enough and would like to leave the cult. More and more are taking this brave step.

22 Faces tells how ritual abuse proliferated across the US after Operation Paperclip's Nazi scientists arrived in the 1940s.

Jewish turncoat "Dr Greenbaum" and others taught mind control techniques (http://kassandraproject.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/the-wizard-of-oz-and-monarch-slave-programming/)developed in the concentration camps to the CIA, US military and Satanic families. The CIA and US military then refined mind control techniques in projects such as MK Ultra, working also with Satanic families. It was the notorious Dr Greenbaum who prepared 6-year-old Jenny for sacrifice in a major ritual. But the little girl was delivered from the altar in an extraordinary turn of events.

At this point in the book, I had to email 22 Faces to ask whether the event was true. The reply came back that it was indeed true: Jenny had not revealed it to anybody until the book was actually being written for fear of not being believed. But I believe Jenny; I believe that such things are possible. And if I am right, humanity can count on some serious support as we clean up.

22 Faces describes horrific scenarios - such as a detailed description of a Satanic ritual sacrifice - but the focus of the book is healing, so good wins out.

As Jenny's core personality is a devout Mormon, God is always around somewhere. The teenage Jenny, a high-achiever, faces challenges as her core personality switches into the sex, drugs and rock 'n roll-addicted "alter" personalities formed during her abuse. The teenager finds - touching - solace amongst the outcasts of her town. Jenny struggles through her twenties; she has studied hard for qualifications and has children yet her relationships break down; she cannot build a stable life. But eventually she comes to enter therapy, face her past and memories.....and there is a great twist at the end of the tale.

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NOTE:

22 Faces' theme, SRA, is a practice so disturbing many refuse to accept it occurs. But more and more people are coming forward with evidence international Satanic networks is linked into drugs, child pornography and other brutal mafias.

1) In 1996, 300,000 Belgians marched to protest government cover-ups in the Dutroux affair, which involved SRA and multiple child murders.

2 ) In 1999, reams of witness testimony emerged (http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/abuse/illuminatiring.txt) to prove SRA was widespread in Australia.

3) In 2011, Netherlanders protested their government's cover-up of senior politician Joris Demminks' raping, torturing and murdering of boys.

4 ) In 2012 it was revealed that deceased UK celebrity Jimmy Savile, a close friend of the royal family, had abused hundreds of children, practised necrophilia (sex with dead bodies) and attended Satanic rituals. (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/379792/Jimmy-Savile-s-Satanic-ritual)

5) In 2013, so much evidence exists to implicate Pope Benedict (http://itccs.org/2013/10/28/i-saw-joseph-ratzinger-murder-a-little-girl-eyewitness-to-a-1987-ritual-sacrifice-confirms-account-of-toos-nijenhuis-of-holland/) and accomplices of SRA that this November, Italian politicians will meet with US and European activists and survivors to discuss procedure.

But the Satanic crime families are adept at hiding - they have hidden in plain sight for centuries. Their controlled mainstream media uses the term "Satanic panic" to mock survivors and believers, whom they label paranoid crazies incapable of "critical thinking". Evidence is rubbished and stories killed.

Jenny Hill and Judy Byington are prime examples. When Jenny and Judy appeared on mainstream American TV to publicize 22 Faces, they were deceived, negatively depicted, misrepresented and lied about. Judy is still being harassed and considering legal action.

These hate campaigns are a sure sign that the Satanic crime families do not want 22 Faces out there. They are running scared.
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RELATED-

SEX ABUSE AND THE GLOBALIST ELITE (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/child_prostitution.htm)
Historical Perspective (http://butlincat.blogspot.ca/2013/11/is-satanic-ritual-abuse-for-real-case.html)

First Comment from G:

Not only did the military and CIA get the Nazi mind control techniques but so did our American police. Their interrogation methods are superior to torture and for any of you unlucky enough to have gone through this yourself, you are left for days confused and wondering who you yourself are. These techniques are behind the high "confession" rates. According to a high level ex-FBI polygrapher 20% of our prisoners are innocent. Many of these "confessions," the victim may not even remember, but behold there they on on video spilling everything.

This is why lawyers admonish to never talk to police for any reason. You could have been in Hong Kong and they could confuse you to confess to a crime that happened in Boston.

As far as Satanic bloodlines among the Mormons, I have accidentally run across a few within the Mormon church. There are plenty of allegations of some among the high leadership being involved in SRA. The fact that a $150 million shopping mall cost the church $4.5 billion and nobody is talking, is a sobering thing Mormons should consider. The all Mormon Utah governor, the state legislative body and the sheriff all remain strangely silent. Not surprisingly the FBI has more than its fair share of Mormons.

I was raised Mormon myself and witnessed a disturbing event. Prior to becoming the church president, while he was yet a Seventy, Pres. Hinkley tried to sell off a 26 acre park that was being donated to the church. He attempted to pocket the cash for himself. This created an uproar and he was forced return the property and cash as there were too many witnesses for him to get away with it. If he wasn't a Satanist he certainly was a thief.

[Flash]

houman's thread should be revived too once in a while, since both threads, here and Houman's address the same topic sometimes on different angles, sometimes on the same angles.

[Hervé]

houman's thread should be revived too once in a while, since both threads, here and Houman's address the same topic sometimes on different angles, sometimes on the same angles.

Houman's thread: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit)

[sigma6]

I think these count as Satanic...

From a nun's point of view, what she lived through... you couldn't make this up... the stereotype is more then true, these are sadistic satanic corrupt evil people, this will break your heart to hear what she went through...

Dark secrets of the Catholic Church; Ex nun Confesses

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Fluffy main stream media presentation, with a slightly different intro added on....
succinctly laid out, I'll give that...

Pope Resignation to avoid arrest and Vatican Conspiracy John Paul 1

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[Mike]

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[carleea]

Thanks for this post. Satanists are indeed real. Utah-based therapist Judy Byington is an expert on SRA and MK Ultra programming. Here are just a few of her articles and videos:

http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-mind-control-victims-abused-after-program-closed


Utah Woman Jenny Hill Sees Human Sacrifice

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3X4dSM1qk


http://www.youtube.com/wat?v=F626Lsrdwg4

Dr. Phil Show aired 1-11-13 and 4-10-13: Judy Byington - Dr. Phil cvShow - YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVJCVUe95A


ABC Channel 4 Kimberly Nelson 10-26-12 with Author Judy Byington, Jenny Hill and Hill's therapist Weston Whatcott, PhD, LCSW, MSW "The Woman With 22 Personalities" http://youtu.be/8SECeoTGRgE


Byington Exposes Government Torture of Children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chDFxYriryA

22 Faces Troll Attack on Amazon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_pwV74Fn8

Byington YouTube Channel

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vztlQHs95g1YOlIAoAjgQ?feature=watch

Judy Byington CAR petition for a Congressional Investigation, CIA mind-control of children: http://www.change.org/petitions/us-congress-survivors-request-investigation-cia-mind-control-of-children

Also search for Examiner Articles by Judy Byington all around these topics:

[sigma6]

I forget exactly where I heard it, I think it may have been a Joseph Farrell interview... he has so many now... but it was about Secret Alien Underground base Dulce, NM...

Then Joseph mentioned this bombshell... he stated that NM has the highest rate of missing children in the entire US... wow... I never heard that before, but that is exactly why I created this site...

It really made me think... sometimes the alien hoopla is overboard... and even if it is partially true... we know something is down there... some have said it would be impossible to build... that is so not true, apparently when the underground base in Washington DC was built, and it is now public, nobody knew about that construction either... so there is your proof...

Anyhow what if there are government satanist there too? They could hide under the cover of the "alien agenda" fanfare... point is where it is real or not, although in this particular case based on what John Lear said (he purposely spread disinfo...) and the story of the security guard although compelling was never validated, he was never identified, he eventually disappeared and so did his family... and there appeared to be no validation of others who knew of any of them... if it was disinfo unrelated to John Lear's disinfo... what would be the motive... usually these things are misdirection...

I kept thinking about what that girl said in the interview, they kidnap people and keep them hidden in caves, and similar places... everytime I think about that... imagine the horror, the absolute complete horror ...

I will say it again...
New Mexico has the highest rate of missing children of all the States in the US... that is heartbreaking...

[sigma6]

Birth of a New Earth: Ep 2 - Rev. Kevin Annett discusses Vatican Crimes & Child Rape

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[seeker/reader]

Kevin Annett is a very, very brave man. Thankfully he hasn't been murdered, "suicided" or framed/imprisoned. I am guessing he has some form of "protection" watching over him. Thank goodness as there are few who are continually speaking out as he does and keeping this subject in the fore.

[sigma6]

All these interviews are very interesting but it drives me insane that Mel never gets to the conspiracy word... There appears to be supernatural elements but I would go to the bizaare seeming hidden "apathetic approach" of the police. At the very least there is a cover up... of what we don't know, but the satanic angle is at least possible so I thought I would include here. This could be a multiple variable situation...

Can't post the video directly, Mel's site is a little backwards in some ways... (another story)
And I haven't seen the 2nd part of this but the first two and this one...
(trying to settle my account... :(

More Strange Disappearances: Missing 411 | The Devil's in the Detail
http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/06jun/VS-140605-dpaulides.php

[Cidersomerset]

Just saw this on Davids site , the songs a bit unnecessary imo the bullet
points are relevant, taken from his last year show at Wembley arena I think.


David Icke – The Queen, The BBC & The Royal Child Catcher To The Establishment

Saturday 7th June 2014 at 10:10 By David Icke

A video by Jay4louise

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Published on 24 May 2014


http://www.davidicke.com
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/chi...
Music "Jimmy Jangle" Braaayks Unskippable

[sigma6]

Elite Child Sex Slaves "1981 Forgotten" Documentary
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I think the interesting thing about this video is how naive they are about the source, they know it is high level government, they seem surprised how the police are ignoring it... (even suggesting the cops were naive... i.e. the same thing Freemasons will do when confronted with a taboo subject... they just go blank...)

It's like they didn't know that the common denominator is that they are all operating from the same secret societies... satanic cults, and finally it seems, back then, kids were not accepted as reliable witnesses. In some senses then, just on a general consciousness level I think there is some progress being made,

But none of this will matter if the Secret Society aspect underlying almost all the corruption isn't consciously acknowledged, identified, and rooted out...

[sigma6]

Psychopath - BBC Documentary...
J3ZihT9lVbA There is a underlying neurological difference in the mental processing of documented psychopaths vs normal population...

[Shezbeth]

I liked the video Sigma6,... but I notice how they neglect to mention the preponderance of psychopaths in/around law enforcement,....

[Shezbeth]

Having had a reasonable amount of time to process and disseminate the information in the video (Sigma6's post immediately above), I have to call a bit of bulls hit. I'll gladly apologize if this post is found to be detracting from the OP subject matter, but ATM I find it a suitable venue by which to illustrate a common misconception.

Not on the video en masse of course; much of the video is pertinent, relevant, and viable. However, I encourage you to start (or reference) beginning at 23:00 and concluding at about 26:00.

What is described therein is not psychopathy IMO, what is described therein is simply good strategy.

The individual in question - the one referred to as a psychopath - is not displaying nefarious and/or injurious characteristics, they are displaying/practicing a pragmatic and efficacious mind; I'll break it down.

To begin, 'accidentally stumbling upon the boss/VP and ingratiating one's self' is a proactive strategy. Whether accidental or 'accidental', it presents one's self in the mind of one's superiors, engages them, and makes a good impression. The phrases "You never get a second chance to make a first impression" and likewise "there's no such thing as bad publicity" come to mind. If a 'first impression' is inevitable, it is better that it be positive and memorable (EVEN if deliberate) than accidentally and potentially embarrassingly; also, if one is able to make the guy(s) who signs one's check remember and/or note their face even if by a 'passing circumstance', what harm is there? The bottom line being - especially in a business sense (it is reasonable to assume that a company with multiple VP's will have at least 100+ employees) - it is just plain smart to positively (EVEN if benignly artificially) present one's face to one of the bosses. To do otherwise and assume one will be positively and beneficially recognized is base ignorance.

For two, I notice that there is NO comparison or contrast of the work ethics of the individuals (the 'psychopath' and his 'detractors'), so we will have to assess ALL the possibilities (which are MANY,... but I'll get to that).

Also for two, they suggest that the individual in question (let's just call him P1 [psychopath 1] for simplicity) has no qualities or abilities beyond his manipulation. I would assert that there is no one who is lacking in qualities and abilities, but I freely recognize that there are those who are better able to market and promote (recognize, promotion begins WITHIN) their talents than others. I'll even corroborate with my own experience (in detail) in a moment.

The apparent 'influence' gained by appearing with the VP is both illusory and VERY REAL. It is illusory in that P1 does not have any legitimate or decisive authority within the company, but being perceived as (even potentially) having such a position IS real decisive control. That others create in their minds the perception that he 'might' is tantamount to having such power in the real, as evidenced by individual reactions to this supposed rapport. The result of his strategem is an increase in others' willingness to convey to him; a successful move in my eye. Taking any (if!) information and utilizing it, even if to present the appearance that he had inside information which he may not have had, is a powerful strategy.

People shoot themselves in the foot by being overly willing to convey the 'truth' and/or 'spill their guts', etc. The phrase 'loose lips sink ships' comes to mind. Being overly willing to convey information does no one a service, least of all themselves. The response he had from others was not to his fault, it was to his credit. That others were willing (in a self-disciplinary AND pro-active awareness sense) to convey information based on a simple set of appearances is a testament to their naivety and laziness. A cursory analysis would have resolved the reality of the dynamic between P1 and the VP,... yet that did not occur; who's fault is that?

"Discovering an affair" is not a matter of nefarity, it is a matter of paying attention to the goings-on. Is one to remain oblivious to the manifold (there is no such thing as a workplace absent 'extra-curricular' activity!) actions of one's co-workers? Is one to abjectly wait patiently and submissively for one's 'opportunity to knock', or can opportunities be made/observed?

I can tell you a NUMBER of the likes, dislikes, practices, hobbies, and activities of MY co-workers,... should I NOT?

I am not a supporter of spreading rumors, but there is no details posited re: the rumors. I recognize it as equally possible that the rumors were false and injurious as it is that the rumors were true and strategically planted. Possessing grace and charm is not classically viewed as a flaw (except in the presentation of the orator,...).

There's more, but it gets increasingly persnickety. Tbat's a great word BTW,... that and 'pith'.

Now, before I get into the personal aspect, I have taken the psychopathic questionnaire and scored a 18/40; do with that result what you will.

AND now - in my own experience - I don't see anything wholly wrong with the behavior of P1. In fact, only one who prescribes to rather naive perceptions/ideologies might this conclusion be rational/relevant. In my own workplace, I have utilized similar strategies. What is denounced as trying to appear in the know is a result of outside observance of working to make opportunities for one's self. Especially in a corporate workplace, one does themselves a disservice by submission and/or playing 'fairly'. The communal perception of 'acceptable' and/or 'average only serves the community, but that is based on the weakest link.

For example, I have regularly used several opportunities to establish a rapport with my superiors. Simple goings on, upcoming activities, directions, or plans have been inquired about, and generally I have made an effort to present myself to my superiors who - as previously stated - either directly sign my paychecks or can influence those who do (or the signing of). Am I to be chastised for being interactive/engaging with such individuals?

Moreover (and this alludes to the unspoken possibilites mentioned in paragraph 6), one who is strategically proactive tends to leave as little to chance as possible. In saying so, I am suggesting that the individual likely saw to it that at least one aspect (if not more but likely so) of their work/production was exemplary. How would it appear trying to present one's self to the boss on the off chance that they might have heard one was not pulling their weight? No, the likelihood is that P1 dotted their 'I's' and crossed their 'T's'. I wouldn't rule out the chance that this was not the case, but it would be inconsistent with the observable patterns. We have absolutely no information to go off of regarding his detractors, but I can state from experience that when one displays and emits excellence, those who do not are not exactly judicious in their analysis and observation.

Again personal, but I have decisively sought and utilized inside information simply because it furthers one's competence. There have been times that the information I convey to my co-workers (many who are multi-year seniors) is plainly written on a whiteboard around the freakin' corner,... and yet I am the only one who bothers to look. So, when conversations of 'what's going on/what are we doing today' arise I can say "We're doing this, that, or the other" rather than "Durrrrrr". Again, it is not a matter of duplicity or artifice, it's simply a matter of paying attention. I don't practice aggrandizement, but if I did (and if P1 did) it would be more the fault of his 'peers' for not paying attention IMO.

Basically what I am getting at is this; I agree that the behaviors presented by P1 are certainly not the norm, and I do not contest the results of the psychopathic questionnaire. Having said, I find that the method by which this character is presented is misleading and both injurious/demonizing to individuals who quite simply know how to mind their P's and Q's in a corporate environment.

If I were to follow the prescribed notions, perceptions, and agreements of my 'peers', I wouldn't be literally pushing the industry standard in my field. I for one have not gotten where I have by listening to the prescriptions of others, not by doing things the way others do them. I have caught alot of flack by pushing the envelope beyond the 'comfortable' perceptions of how things 'had been done previously', I did so by blazing a trail and MAKING opportunities. I have been (attempted to be) criticized because I (in working myself - tooth and nail - to the bone) am 'making other people's job harder' (increased production) takes second fiddle to the fact that I am making the company lots of money (or preventing the loss).

In short, I would suggest that P1's detractors might just be embittered and/or 'haters',... but that would require a more thorough set of details. Still, the manner in which is behavior is demonized and/or relegated as 'psychopathic' is cursory, rhetorical, misleading, and inqualified (in this context). If he is a psychopath, why is there little more than anecdotal evidence?

Those who are emergent are often viewed by those who are want to not be emergent as a 'problem',... but I contest by saying that the lack of emergence is the problem,... and the professional business world tends to agree.

[ThePythonicCow]

Psychopath - BBC Documentary...

...
There is a underlying neurological difference in the mental processing of documented psychopaths vs normal population...
Like Shezbeth, I had doubts about this BBC documentary on psychopathy, but for what seems to be a quite different reason.

The documentary seems to be saying that some people have a biological malfunction in their brains (whether due to genetics or upbringing or some combination being unknown) that makes those people destructive to those around them. However, fortunately, modern medical technology can identify this malfunction, and eventually we expect to be able to "fix" it, with medical implants in the brain.

Gee ... isn't that swell ... where can I sign my nasty mother-in-law up for that implant? (Actually, she was a fine person, who is no longer with us.)

This is a totally different take on things. Rather than there being some satanic, abusive, blood and power thirsty, bastards enslaving us, instead there are some flawed individuals amongst us, which the trusted institutions of government and medicine can identify, and in coming years, will be able to "fix".

Ouch ... sounds to me like the BBC is, as usual, fulfilling its role as a propaganda media.

[sigma6]

It's a psychological fact that psychopaths and/or sociopaths (just differences of degree) have lower rates of excitation as measured by countless studies going back decades, this isn't new research I remember reading about it myself... (tha's a long time ago...) They tend to be thrill seekers, army veterans, and can even function more efficiently under what would be high stress conditions for normal people... the flip side they can be easily "bored" or disconnected from the "day time television" crowd... or the "9 to 5" crowd... I don't think there is any doubt these types of people exist...

[Cidersomerset]

Just saw this article....

Florida Agrees That Satanists Must Have Equal Representation in
state capitol building’s religious-themed holiday displays.

Saturday 6th December 2014 at 11:22 By David Icke


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‘The Satanic Temple scored a free-speech victory in its quest for
equal representation among the Florida state capitol building’s
religious-themed holiday displays.

The Satanic Temple — not to be confused with the Church of Satan,
with which TST is not affiliated — describes its mission as
“facilitating the communication and mobilization of politically aware
Satanists, secularists, and advocates for individual liberty,” as well
as “to encourage benevolence and empathy among all people.

In addition, we embrace practical common sense and justice. As
an organized religion, we feel it is our function to actively provide
outreach, to lead by example, and to participate in public affairs
wheresoever the issues might benefit from rational, Satanic insights.”‘

Read more: Florida Agrees That Satanists Must Have Equal
Representation in state capitol building's religious-themed holiday displays.


http://io9.com/florida-agrees-that-satanists-must-have-equal-represent-1666410117

The Satanic Temple-Satanic Statue Oklahoma Second Lawsuit

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Published on 2 Jun 2014


The mission of The Satanic Temple is to encourage benevolence and
empathy among all people. In addition, we embrace practical common
sense and justice. As Satanists we all should be guided by our
conscience to undertake noble pursuits guided by our individual
wills. We believe that this is the hope of all mankind and the
highest aspiration of humanity.

[Mike]

bumping this oldy but goldy by Sigma6....very important thread that - despite its disturbing content - needs to be revisited from time to time..

adding this:
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[sigma6]

Now this little girl really breaks my heart... so brave...

15 Years Old Girl Survive Illuminati Satanic Rituals Abuse - Pt 1
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15 Years Old Girl Survive Illuminati Satanic Rituals Abuse - Pt 2
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[boutreality]

I've found great value in various vids here. Particularly the second above, where the woman characterizes this culture as "pursuing evil to receive a greater reward upon death."

I hold that what makes this system work; what keeps these sorts of cultures and their secret alliances in power is a technological support construct. It is comprised of inter-dimensional/ space-based/out-of-phase support platforms, where each practitioner of evil/evil sorcerer serves as a physiological interface, "vectoring" the effects of this weapon array into reality and performing their rituals to "feed and strengthen" the system. The lower 90% (I'd guess) of these types of groups have no idea that what they are doing is in service to advanced technological applications of a secreted science. -They are accustomed to the "rewards" their involvement in these activities yield and continue perpetuating these crimes for that reason.

My "Skull and Bones" thread speaks directly to this notion -check it out if interested. I think it fitting that just yesterday I added a bit to that thread and today Sigma added something here; thank you.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90812-Why-Skull-and-Bones-exists-how-they-work

[DNA]

I've found great value in various vids here. Particularly the second above, where the woman characterizes this culture as "pursuing evil to receive a greater reward upon death."

I hold that what makes this system work; what keeps these sorts of cultures and their secret alliances in power is a technological support construct. It is comprised of inter-dimensional/ space-based/out-of-phase support platforms, where each practitioner of evil/evil sorcerer serves as a physiological interface, "vectoring" the effects of this weapons array into reality and performing their rituals to "feed and strengthen" the system. The lower 90% (I'd guess) of these types of groups have no idea that what they are doing is in service to advanced technological applications of a secreted science. -They are accustomed to the "rewards" their involvement in these activities yield and continue perpetuating these crimes for that for that reason.

My "Skull and Bones" thread speaks directly to this notion -check it out if interested. I think it fitting that just yesterday I added a bit to that thread and today Sigma added something here; thank you.




There is not any way to find a sane explanation for madness.
I mean this in relation to the theme of the thread, and mostly for the young 15 year old in the video posted by Sigma.


The cut to the chase explanation I would give, would be pedophiles will go to extreme lengths to validate their actions.
In any self proclaimed Satanist or what have you claiming to do this atrocity for a reason you will first find a pedophile. Secondly you find fill in the blank bullsh!t explanation serving to legitimize the practice.
I'm reminded of the George Green interview with Camelot, when he stated that he meets Ted Kennedy and that Ted Kennedy instantly starts making a pass at his 14 year old daughter. It's as if there is a requirement to be a piece of sh!t pedophile in order to gain higher offices in politics and business.


I think it's like the movie "they live" only instead of seeing aliens you see parasites living on/in people.
It seems these parasites crave human children and extract their joy through the most evil acts.
It appears that they can recognize one another at some level.
Are these parasites reptilian higher dimensional beings? I don't know, but it appears they exist.




Here is a little something in relation to entity attachment.



The following message was given to Standing Elk and is a preface to Kewaunee Lapseritis's 1998 book "Sasquatch People".

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Sasquatchitan. I am Chief of Sasquatchi People. You may think we are hairy and have big feet. Really this is not so.

I come to speak to you because soon, our people will come to you again. The reason we had to leave the community of human beings is because of their loss of this innocence, truth, and purity. For our race and the Laws of our race are based upon these three.

All true Star Nations practice innocence, truth and purity.

Our people did not want to leave the human beings. This is why you have seen us here and there. Your grandfathers and grandmothers who have grown through what you call “years” usually are those who have seen us, because the Earth Walk teaches innocence, truth, and purity. This is why the Elders are the Spiritual leaders.

Our people are ready to come to the human beings again, to live with you and to teach you many things.

First, human beings must purify. For when we see you, we see things that are very horrifying to us because we have spiritual sight. You must cleanse the cloud of bad spirits that surrounds you, the negativity, unholy feelings, and unwise thoughts. Not only do these dark clouds prevent our people from having relationship to you, it prevents you from having relationship with Spirit and having relationship with Mother Earth.

We will share some practices now that will help you.

First, within the Sacred Elements, Earth, Water, Fire, and Air, there is the power for your cleansing.

If you were to bury yourself in Earth and stay there for a day, you would be clean.

If you were to go and stay with Brother Waterfall for a day, you would be clean.

If you would stay under the Desert Sun for a day, you would be clean.

If you would stand in the Strong Winds of the Mountain People for one day, you would be clean.

The Elemental Peoples love human beings. They will do service at any time for you. Take Tobacco to them. Pray for their Nation and they will come to you with hearts overflowing.

Then, honor their gift to you by changing the way you think, feeling with true heart, praying for renewal with Creator and honoring Mother Earth with each footstep.

The way of cleansing for human beings is right outside your door.

Mother Earth and her peoples are glorious beings of Universe!

Learn to respect us!

You look to the skies for miracles, the miracles are here!

Open your eyes and see!

Mother Earth is a great teacher of Innocence. She is a great teacher of Truth. She is Purity embodied. Know your Mother! Most of you came from far away to be with her and to be with the Peoples of her Love.

We Sasquatchi are ready to join you in the community of Sacred Law, in True Heart. We will teach you how to step through those Portals of Time. We will teach you how to remember who you are, your starry intelligence and wisdom. We will help you learn how to be in balance with the Sacred World around you.

Our Peoples have adopted this Universal Law and its sign as the symbol of Our coming and as the energy of our Teachings. And so, you may call us through these ways.

First, we will check you out. We will watch you. We will see if you are ready.

Can you see the little signs? For the biggest teachings are little things. We will be watching to see. For, when you can respect that little pebble, you can respect us. You can respect who you are.

Purity. Go out to the Sacred Waters.

Innocence. Remember when you were very young and be that way.

Truth. Stop trying so hard to lie.

The Elemental Brothers and Sisters are of these Essences. They are Purity in form. They are single. They are True. They are unpolluted, they understand that they are the Keepers of Life.

Learn from Soil and Stone.

Learn from River and Ocean.

Learn from Fire and Lightning.

Learn from Wind and Breath.

They are so close to you that you cannot remember who they are. And yet, not one action that you take, could you do without them.

These Sacred Element Peoples will restore you.

And then we, Sasquatchi, will come and teach you the community ways of being in balance with Sacred Mother. Then your lifeline will be unbroken as ours has been from the beginning.

Mitakuye Oyasin
Standing Elk/Golden EagleChief/ChiefBlack Spotted Horse

[sigma6]

I've found great value in various vids here. Particularly the second above, where the woman characterizes this culture as "pursuing evil to receive a greater reward upon death."

I hold that what makes this system work; what keeps these sorts of cultures and their secret alliances in power is a technological support construct. It is comprised of inter-dimensional/ space-based/out-of-phase support platforms, where each practitioner of evil/evil sorcerer serves as a physiological interface, "vectoring" the effects of this weapons array into reality and performing their rituals to "feed and strengthen" the system. The lower 90% (I'd guess) of these types of groups have no idea that what they are doing is in service to advanced technological applications of a secreted science. -They are accustomed to the "rewards" their involvement in these activities yield and continue perpetuating these crimes for that for that reason.

My "Skull and Bones" thread speaks directly to this notion -check it out if interested. I think it fitting that just yesterday I added a bit to that thread and today Sigma added something here; thank you.

update your post with a link Bouty! i.e. right click your "Link to Post #..." and copy and paste into your post... ; -D

[boutreality]

The link is in place, thanks for the advice.

DNA:
Entities that are behind the attachments build those monstrosities. The attaching entities themselves; tissue; nerves; eyes grow into a "blank slate" body that is then "loaded up" with stored resonant signature frequencies of committed evil.

For example, a thrill-kill serial killer has the resonant signatures of his consciously aware being "recorded" when he is in the state of stalking/killing his victim; these frequencies are compounded across an aggregate of people acting out that sort of evil. The frequencies alone are "loaded" into the aforementioned grown entity. The result is what anyone would consider a demon- existing only to act out sentient awareness loaded into it in this case-thrill kill).

For a meaningful resistance to be had it really takes like minded people operating from their own knowledge and skill sets, hopefully some of those people are grounded in an individual discipline, but that is not required.
-Yet another reason I feel no shame in saying "throw everything I'm saying out the window if you don't consider it valid. I'm not here to argue."
In the end good people being good is all it takes.

[Innocent Warrior]

Russ Dizdar is a Christian who has worked with Luciferians and Satanic ritual abuse (SRA) victims for close to 30 years, he delivers them from demonic possession, aka performs exorcisms. A part of his process is investigating the victims’ backgrounds so the doors which were opened to the demons can be closed and he's discovered much about how Satanists and Luciferians operate.

Dizdar has worked with many Luciferians who have multiple demonised alters, alters which have been created in preparation for what they refer to as the black awakening.

Not only are they not reporting all the disappearances but they also don’t report the Satanic and Luciferian nature of many crimes. Dizdar was hired to teach detectives about ritual crime for a couple of years and he said the police are instructed to not make it (Satanic nature of crimes) public, the excuse being that it would scare the public.

A lot of information on demonic possession, SRA, Satanic crime, exorcism, Satanic and Luciferian practices/methods and DID in the interview below.

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[DNA]

The link is in place, thanks for the advice.

DNA:
Entities that are behind the attachments build those monstrosities. The attaching entities themselves; tissue; nerves; eyes grow into a "blank slate" body that is then "loaded up" with stored resonant signature frequencies of committed evil.

For example, a thrill-kill serial killer has the resonant signatures of his consciously aware being "recorded" when he is in the state of stalking/killing his victim; these frequencies are compounded across an aggregate of people acting out that sort of evil. The frequencies alone are "loaded" into the aforementioned grown entity. The result is what anyone would consider a demon- existing only to act out sentient awareness loaded into it in this case-thrill kill).

For a meaningful resistance to be had it really takes like minded people operating from their own knowledge and skill sets, hopefully some of those people are grounded in an individual discipline, but that is not required.
-Yet another reason I feel no shame in saying "throw everything I'm saying out the window if you don't consider it valid. I'm not here to argue."
In the end good people being good is all it takes.

The technological addition is "unique" but I'm not sure it helps the over all understanding of the situation without more contextual examples to illustrate your point.

This would come in various forms. One would be scholarly, where upon you explain something like this and source the author and the experience the author had in which this information was found out.

Another would be through personally witnessing an event or events that you were able to gleam the apparatus you refer to.

And then there would be the power of correlating various pieces of information and uniting them to create a sum greater than it's parts. What you describe in this example could be a discovery all your own, uncovered through years of research, finding corresponding tid-bits of data, relating and yet not seemingly connected in an obvious way.

I say all of this because I use all three methods to make my way along this dark and murky hallway we all traverse, and I can link you to various threads that can bring you along and illustrate how I came to some of the conclusions I make. But in your case, I can't find the necessary context that would cause me to want to take your statements seriously.

I suppose when it comes down to it, I'm never a fan of endowing technology with omniscience or omnipotence because this kind of thinking invariably leads to the idea that we are all living in a computer program a la the matrix, and I personally do not believe in this, nor do I wish to entertain a dialogue along those lines.

So I suppose that is it in a nutshell really. I've placed quite a bit of energy trying to understand our reality, and I've gone through paradigm paralysis along the way, having to confront that before I could go further.
Your statements about technology being used to "encourage", "harvest" and "record" the most horrible evils is a pain in the ass of one of my favorite personal paradigms. And that paradigm is that "spirit trumps all" plain and simple.
This is probably the reason I've given you a little bit of hell here and there.
What you state discomforts me, and it discomforts me in a manner that causes me to want to be a tad hostile at times. I hope you will forgive me.
But, I am asking you to color in your statements a tad bit, so there is that.

[Eagle Eye]

Dont get caught in that evil reality too much. Learn from all of things but choose wisely where your everyday attention should be. The are multiple realities within this dimension and within this planet. Sometimes we see heaven on earth, sometimes greater balance and sometimes hell on earth. All of them coexist, but for a short period of time , because the division of these realities has to come sooner or later.

Nothing happen without a great purpose.

[boutreality]

Iceberg:
-At the same time burying one's head in the sand leads to a sun blistered backside. There is a resistance to be had against the evil of reality and reality is not of itself evil. The evil's influence is fading; it is not preternatural to our state of being and it does not "coexist" because it has some right to.

DNA:
-A matrix that cuts through reality ( a conceptual frame). It is a void space built to house the tech and the tech relies upon people committing evil acts and considering the effects of the system as the acts of a evil "god-like" structure. It no where says that all of reality is a matrix.

My claims are for consideration, in hopes it may be useful to some, with no expectation that it has to be helpful to anyone. This affords the reader their own discernment.
IF their own discernment leads them to take that info as helpful to see what comprises the overall picture that's great.
If one considers what is said there (especially about Saturn-Europa mind control) for what it means it is clear, as I've said before, that it is foolhardy for me to expect others believe any of this at all.

The paradigm conveyed in my threads is complete and though it may obliquely reference parts of other researchers' works, I did not happen upon it by reading these works. Making those cross-correlations may be important to others, it is not to me. If it were, I might care to become a conspiracy researcher by trade; I do not.
I came to it through my own discipline and extolling the hows/whens/whys of the process is not of any importance to me.
If you don't like what it is saying I'm not out to convince you you should.
If you don't like "me" (I know that's not what you're saying) for sharing what my discipline has led me to understand, all the while not expecting to be believed out of hand (or at all,) fine.

We lack overarching contextual frames in these topics, all that is being offered in my threads is one proposed overarching paradigm. Though it is real -can be no other way- to me, I don't expect it be taken as truth out of hand.
This "culture", it seems, would rather follow the "Alien of the week"; researcher-contactee-whsitleblower of the hour.
-I've watched that for decades and none of it has led to an overall understanding.