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spiritguide
9th July 2013, 22:47
Why is the media squelching these events? After all the SSG has us all bugged.

Article lead in ...

by Steve Foley

While the national media covers the Oscar Pistorius murder case wall to wall, the gruesome murder and beheading of two Coptic Christians by a Muslim has been virtually blacked out.

This despite the fact that the story was broken by an ABC television local affiliate in Jersey City two weeks ago.

MUSLIM ACCUSED OF BEHEADING 2 CHRISTIANS IN U.S.

Torture, persecution of faithful no longer reserved for Islamic nations

by BOB UNRUH

Authorities in New Jersey allege a Muslim man beheaded two Coptic Christians, burying their bodies and heads and hands in separate graves near Philadelphia, bringing the horror of the persecution of Christians in Islamic nations to the United States.

According to New York’s WABC-TV, the Muslim was identified as Yusuf Ibrahim, 28. He was taken into custody after the bodies were found.

The report said investigators alleged Ibrahim killed the victims then severed their heads and hands, and buried the remains in the back yard of a home in Buena Vista, N.J.

The report said the victims were from the Coptic Christian community in the area. One of the victims had come from Egypt not many years ago.

While the report said police did not indicate a motive, friends of the victims wondered if it was something to do with religion.

Link to article.....

http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/04/06/two-christians-beheaded-in-new-jersey-by-muslim-man-media-silent/

I guess if you cannot be forwarned you cant be forarmed.

Peace!

Ioneo
9th July 2013, 23:45
The muslim threat is no longer in vogue? They need to turn things inward (crazy gun toting conservatives) to get to the end game?

Tesseract
9th July 2013, 23:53
Such people are the USA's best friends again.

Another1
10th July 2013, 02:01
Slamming Christians has become so customary that perhaps a couple of them getting killed isn't really news ... and it wouldn't be right to insult Obummer's Muslim family :gaah:

Dennis Leahy
10th July 2013, 02:11
Gee, that is much more exciting than "Left handed guy beheads two right handed people!"

Don't get sucked-in, folks.

If the news is about guns, gays, immigrants, religions, or the phony war on terror, it is designed to divide and frighten.

Dennis

778 neighbour of some guy
10th July 2013, 02:39
400.000 Muslims of all sexes and ages, slain by Christian teenagers with joysticks, how bout that one eh?

Not taking sides here, just pointing out the discrepancies.

Media, silent, mute, blind, bought and paid for.

Seikou-Kishi
10th July 2013, 03:15
Gee, that is much more exciting than "Left handed guy beheads two right handed people!"

Don't get sucked-in, folks.

If the news is about guns, gays, immigrants, religions, or the phony war on terror, it is designed to divide and frighten.

Dennis

Perspicacious as ever I remember Dennis :-)

Lifebringer
10th July 2013, 03:29
Why hasn't Christie, said anything as Governor? Surely he couldn't have put the squash on this by himself?

Lifebringer
10th July 2013, 03:42
Isn't Christie Governor? Isn't Christie the one who says what gets printed in "his" state? Why hasn't Christie said anything? Isn't Christie Christian? Catholic Christian with all the statues and stuff. How can he ignore his own fellow Christians?
Oh, that's right, he's pandering to voters and businessmen in his run for the Presidency. :hurt:

Another1
10th July 2013, 03:52
The original post sparked a knee jerk response on my part of being flip about the religion card but watching this news report it sounds more like a drug deal gone wrong.

The reporter initially states that the heads and hands were chopped off to aid in hiding the identities of the victims.


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Why did he cut off their hands? New Jersey Attorney General Jeffrey S. Chiesa said (http://njsp.org/news/pr021113.html): "We allege that the defendant was ruthless and calculating in the manner in which he carried out the killings and attempted to prevent identification of the victims by cutting off their heads and hands before burying their bodies."

Also:

Investigators say Ibrahim shot and killed the victims, severed their heads and hands, and buried the remains at a Buena Vista house.

In the movies and 911 prapaganda videos, they do not shoot them first?

161803398
10th July 2013, 06:29
"Perhaps the most detailed and comprehensive profile of Islamic recruits to terrorism was conducted in 2008 by the British intelligence agency MI5, whose behavioural science unit performed in-depth case studies on “several hundred individuals known to be involved in, or closely associated with, violent extremist activity,” including jihadist fundraisers and would-be suicide bombers. The conclusion is that Muslim terrorists in the West “are a diverse collection of individuals, fitting no single demographic profile, nor do they all follow a typical pathway to violent extremism.” As in other countries, they tend to be either converts or second-generation, native-born children of legal immigrants.

Significantly, fundamentalist Muslim clerics generally have no role in the indoctrination or recruitment of these jihadists. “Far from being Islamist fundamentalists,” the report concludes, “most are religious novices.” Very few have been raised in strongly religious households; in fact, MI5 concludes, “there is evidence that a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalization.”

Some recruits, the agency notes, “are involved in drug-taking, drinking alcohol and visiting prostitutes.” But they don’t appear to be mentally unstable, lone-wolf characters; in fact, a majority of those over 30 have steady relationships, and most have children. They also tend to be well educated and employed, albeit typically in low-income jobs. Rather than intense monastic religious devotees, they tend to be non-faithful individuals who are drawn to radical peer groups for political or personal, but not religious, reasons. The study concluded that four factors were leading to terrorist radicalization: “trauma,” such as the death of a loved one (10% of terror suspects had experienced this); immigration without family members (a third of extremists had “migrated to Britain alone” as students or labourers); “criminal activity” (two-thirds had criminal records); and “prison” (many were radicalized while serving time). "

http://dougsaunders.net/2013/04/muslim-immigrants-terrorists-jihad-terrorism/

spiritguide
10th July 2013, 08:06
The point of posting this thread was not necessarily the motive of the crime, but the hipocracy of the media and masses in the dehumanization of the society. Systemic evil is encroaching and to be aware of this is to know thy enemy. Giving up our liberties and rights will not prevent this from manifesting on our streets and in our psyches. You shall know him by his deeds! This is beyond hate folks. IMHO

Peace!

Nanoo Nanoo
10th July 2013, 08:12
this is so silly its not even funny ... who cares if a muslim killed a christian .. why are we talking about the religious doctorine of an alegged murder ?

do we point out a roman catholic dog trainer was arrested training prodestant german sheppards to bark the national anthem ?

im shrugging my shoulders.

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Lazlo
10th July 2013, 15:22
this is so silly its not even funny ... who cares if a muslim killed a christian .. why are we talking about the religious doctorine of an alegged murder ?

do we point out a roman catholic dog trainer was arrested training prodestant german sheppards to bark the national anthem ?

im shrugging my shoulders.

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Agreed.

To go one further, it would be irresponsible to play the religion card and get people all worked up if this really was just a drug deal gone wrong.

Dennis Leahy
10th July 2013, 15:41
"Perhaps the most detailed and comprehensive profile of Islamic recruits to terrorism was conducted in 2008 by the British intelligence agency MI5, whose behavioural science unit performed in-depth case studies on “several hundred individuals known to be involved in, or closely associated with, violent extremist activity,” including jihadist fundraisers and would-be suicide bombers. The conclusion is that Muslim terrorists in the West “are a diverse collection of individuals, fitting no single demographic profile, nor do they all follow a typical pathway to violent extremism.” As in other countries, they tend to be either converts or second-generation, native-born children of legal immigrants.

Significantly, fundamentalist Muslim clerics generally have no role in the indoctrination or recruitment of these jihadists. “Far from being Islamist fundamentalists,” the report concludes, “most are religious novices.” Very few have been raised in strongly religious households; in fact, MI5 concludes, “there is evidence that a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalization.”

Some recruits, the agency notes, “are involved in drug-taking, drinking alcohol and visiting prostitutes.” But they don’t appear to be mentally unstable, lone-wolf characters; in fact, a majority of those over 30 have steady relationships, and most have children. They also tend to be well educated and employed, albeit typically in low-income jobs. Rather than intense monastic religious devotees, they tend to be non-faithful individuals who are drawn to radical peer groups for political or personal, but not religious, reasons. The study concluded that four factors were leading to terrorist radicalization: “trauma,” such as the death of a loved one (10% of terror suspects had experienced this); immigration without family members (a third of extremists had “migrated to Britain alone” as students or labourers); “criminal activity” (two-thirds had criminal records); and “prison” (many were radicalized while serving time). "

http://dougsaunders.net/2013/04/muslim-immigrants-terrorists-jihad-terrorism/

If you do a study of frequency of biting by dalmatians, and publish the results with the slant that dalmatians are worse than all other dogs, you have done the reader a great disservice. (disclaimer: It's a metaphor - it has nothing to do with dogs or any pejorative use of the mental wordplay on "dog!")

First of all this "article" gives credibility to the meme of Muslim jihadists and terrorists. Isn't it the solid truth that the most common terrorist on planet Earth is a white, male, US citizen, probably claiming Christianity as their religion? How about a study on the most prevalent REAL terrorists in the world's history?

Sheesh.

Please let's be careful about proliferating deliberately planted, false memes - especially those that are the foundation of the phony war on terror.

Dennis

Curt
10th July 2013, 16:00
Shucks, it's almost as if this sort of story is meant to perpetuate the idea that Muslims are bloodthirsty savages hell-bent on destroying good honest Christian folk.

Then again. Nah. There'd be no purpose in that. Nobody I could imagine would benefit from that sort of idea being pushed over and over again--especially not while we're in the midst of a war with the entire middle east.

So, I'll just go ahead and mark it down as a straight-up, fair and meme-free news story and go back about my business. ;)

Prodigal Son
10th July 2013, 16:19
Gee, that is much more exciting than "Left handed guy beheads two right handed people!"

Don't get sucked-in, folks.

If the news is about guns, gays, immigrants, religions, or the phony war on terror, it is designed to divide and frighten.

Dennis

Actually, considering that we have an unqualified Muslim "President", a Muslim-style obelisk atop the Freedom Tower, and the WTC Memorial at Ground Zero has been designed to invoke Mecca, I wonder if something else isn't going on in this country, a change of energy, a new paradigm, a new symbol, moving away from the "Christian" ruse towards a new one... of total control and power over the obedient masses. Why else would the media shy away from this? One would think it would help their anti-Muslim "terrorist" propaganda agenda.

http://www.armageddononline.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4839.html?

mrchunkytown
12th July 2013, 03:29
IMHO i think this has to do with the whole agenda, look at the big picture; all the christian persecution in the middle east, the syrian conflict, everything esle thats goin on over there, plus all the scandals thats goin on here in america. personally i think the MSM and the government elitests are trying to turn the world against Christians mainly because your good old fashioned bible thumping christian is the one that is gone have the strongest principles and values, and the ones that would most likely stand up for their freedom and liberty. I think its all just fuel for the fire, and the fire is spreading. There is no such thing as coincidence, everything happens for a reason.

rgray222
12th July 2013, 03:47
The mainstream media is so blatant today that if it does not move their political agenda forward they will intentionally black this information out. They have gotten so bad that they will even forsake ratings for politics.

Violet
13th July 2013, 14:26
Surely these men are gun-capable enough to inflict death upon their victims...so my question always is: how would a headline look with the words "shot" and "muslim" together as compared with "beheading" and "muslim"?

For me a headline no longer needs to say "muslim" when it already has "beheading" in it because I already know that when I click on it, I'm going to read about muslims.

I don't know, it just seems too easy...