Wake up AMERICA or MOVE .....

[etheric underground]

I feel for all americans, please friends, listen to your gut, be fully aware and be ready to fight.
( edited get out )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgo8MuszjlE

[william r sanford72]

to leave is to turn my back...to leave is to give up...to leave says you won.we give.screw that.but thanks for caring E.underground.

[CD7]

OK Ummmmmm are you aware tht the same people pulling US strings are also pulling all the other countries strings? Were ALL in the same boat--thanks for the fear porn this morning I needed to get off :rolleyes:

[RUSirius]

I must be the biggest dummy on the planet, I'm actually going back, however my eyes are wide open. See you all soon fellow staters.

[thunder24]

Not to b chicken little but..... " THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING"....


ok i got that off my chest
I had to~

[CD7]

Not to b chicken little but..... " THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING"....


ok i got that off my chest
I had to~


You know if the sky falls, Heaven comes to us :)

[william r sanford72]

I must be the biggest dummy on the planet, I'm actually going back, however my eyes are wide open. See you all soon fellow staters.

glad to have ya.we need all the help we can get.

[Another1]

OK Ummmmmm are you aware tht the same people pulling US strings are also pulling all the other countries strings? Were ALL in the same boat--thanks for the fear porn this morning I needed to get off :rolleyes:

You beat me to my question. Where should I move to? This is a new 'world' order they are working upon.

Something else I can't forget is that Americans are hated and feared many places in the world and assumed to be all kinds of nasty. I remember friends suggesting that I wear a Canadian flag lapel pin while flying internationally as protection from haters.

Funny to see the change in the wind. A dozen years ago the call was to get to where you want to be for the fall with the intent to be with the right people to work on the rebuild. My location here was picked after heavy suggestions from experts on that Book of Enoch ... if all goes according to that plan I'll be about 20 miles from the beach someday *g

[Kraut]

Perhaps I should get ready to inspect my newly purchased property on Europa. I heard the ocean there is nice, if you get past the ice.

[Justintime]

OK Ummmmmm are you aware tht the same people pulling US strings are also pulling all the other countries strings? Were ALL in the same boat--thanks for the fear porn this morning I needed to get off :rolleyes:

Haa, you said fear porn.

[spiritguide]

A song from 1968 that was a suttle anti-apartheid song in South Africa. Could be used as a suttle song here in America against the police state.

HN9bcuIK70s

Just replace the words master jack with uncle sam.

Peace!

[etheric underground]

Yes this is happening every where, but lest we forget that because of your declaration of independence in 1776
you enabled freedoms of speech and rights given to people every where worldwide.
What you may not know CD7 is that when your governance becomes the declaration of DEPENDANTS
and you are in a military state ...then YES it will domino effect all over the show...
My point is, if you put your head in the ground like an ostrich ....doesnt mean these issues fade away.
Fear porn.....nah... this post isnt fear based sister, its trying to open the eyes of a lot of asleep/ medicated/low self esteemed
people...surely you dont think every thing is dandy on your soil ...if so, you too need to wake from the slumber miss.

[DouglasDanger]

to leave is to turn my back...to leave is to give up...to leave says you won.we give.screw that.but thanks for caring E.underground.

That is not so, to leave a sinking ship is to survive, those who survive will be able to build a better ship or be alive to bring that very ship back from the ocean floor modifying its keel and hull to weather any storm of the future... The dead cannot help rebuild anything....

[shadowstalker]

Why is it always fear mongering when some one points out that a train will hit you if you don't get out of the way.

[johnf]

The op video is a bunch of images run together without giving sources and DATES.
Dropping out important data points like that is basic propaganda.
Is there a link to a specific piece of legislation that has been passed
that relates to this video?
Without verification like that it has to go into the fear porn porn heap.

I added this later to share my process in digesting this thread.
I retract the words fear porn, I consider this video to be inadvertent
misinformation due to the emotions involved in dealing with this subject.
It is sloppy journalism.
I challenge those on this forum to do the best they can to provide the dates of the material in videos, or point out that they are not in the video, and couldn't be found.


jf

[Fred Ryan]

I'm amazed at how those of you living elsewhere stay fixated on America while ignoring what's happening to your own country. The link below leads to a video by an Australian named Max Igan highlighting some of the things happening there.

By the way, be warned, some day soon you just might want to get out of Oz!

http://youtu.be/Kx3D5lxUJpU

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The op video is a bunch of images run together without giving sources and DATES.
Dropping out important data points like that is basic propaganda.
Is there a link to a specific piece of legislation that has been passed
that relates to this video?
Without verification like that it has to go into the fear porn porn heap.

I added this later to share my process in digesting this thread.
I retract the words fear porn, I consider this video to be inadvertent
misinformation due to the emotions involved in dealing with this subject.
It is sloppy journalism.
I challenge those on this forum to do the best they can to provide the dates of the material in videos, or point out that they are not in the video, and couldn't be found.

jf

Well said. Thank you.

[Sith73]

Sorry I'm not intimidated by the powers that were. I will stand my ground! I know there are others that will join me. There are more of us then them. We need to unite as one race and take back whats ours.

[white wizard]

Do not fall into FEAR its a trap... Fighting them with anything, but your

relentless will for your rights will defeat them. Mahatma Gandhi used

non-cooperation, non-violence and peaceful resistance to beat them back ,

which is the ultimate weapon. Remember they hide in shadows and once they

are exposed it will be their downfall.

[GoodETxSG]

WORDS ARE CHEAP, THOUGH I SEE SOME BEAUTIFUL ONES HERE. NOW IS THE TIME TO STAND UP LIKE THE PEOPLE OF BRAZIL... HOW MANY OF YOU ARE TRULY WILLING TO STAND AGAINST THIS NEW MACHINE OF TYRANNY MADE UP OF THE YOUNG FACES OF OUR OWN BRAINWASHED, THOSE WHO WERE CHOSEN AND MANIPULATED TO CIRCUMVENT POSSE COMITATUS BY BELIEVING THEY ARE "SERVING THE USA WITH HONOR"???

WHO HAVE BECOME A PRIVATE SS ARMY (DHS/FEMA/ICE/FBE/FEDERAL MARSHALS ON DOWN)... ARE YOU READY TO STAND UP AGAINST THEM AND THEIR LEADERS IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES? OR... OR... WILL YOUR WORDS SUFFICE? YOU WILL HAVE GONE ON RECORD... BUT NOT ACTED...

NOT ONE PROTEST, NOT ONE PROTEST SIGN BUILT, NOT STOOD IN FRONT OF ONE OF THESE YOUNG BRIAN WASHED KIDS WITH A SIGN POINTING OUT THE VERY RIGHTS, THE VERY CONSTITUTION THEY SWORE AND OATH TO PROTECT FROM ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC... AS THEY COME DOWN ON YOU THEY SEE THAT SIGH THAT GOD GIVE RIGHT! NOT A GOVERNMENT ALLOWED PRIVILEGE!

This parchment and the words written on it are worth every single drop of blood, sweat and tear shed to create this great country. Mistakes have been made, and corrected... NOW... RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SOME MAJOR MISTAKES TO CORRECT AND IT WILL SOON COST MANY MORE DROPS OF BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS! YOURS, MINE AND OUR CHILDREN'S!!!

THIS IS THE PRICE OF FREEDOM AND THE COST OF ALLOWING TYRANNY TO BURROW INTO THE THREADS OF OUR NATIONAL FABRIC! It is time to stand once again together as free persons and reclaim what we have allowed to be taken away one inch at a time! YOU! Stand up, do it now!


Yes this is happening every where, but lest we forget that because of your declaration of independence in 1776
you enabled freedoms of speech and rights given to people every where worldwide.
What you may not know CD7 is that when your governance becomes the declaration of DEPENDANTS
and you are in a military state ...then YES it will domino effect all over the show...
My point is, if you put your head in the ground like an ostrich ....doesnt mean these issues fade away.
Fear porn.....nah... this post isnt fear based sister, its trying to open the eyes of a lot of asleep/ medicated/low self esteemed
people...surely you dont think every thing is dandy on your soil ...if so, you too need to wake from the slumber miss.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=22028&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1373654282

[ghostrider]

to leave is to turn my back...to leave is to give up...to leave says you won.we give.screw that.but thanks for caring E.underground.

totally agree, I will be that person standing in front of the tank , daring them to run me over, I glady stand in their face and say = enough , run over me, it won't change a thing, you will still be a bunch of cowards and madmen that must be stoppped ... viva la revolution !!!

[ghostrider]

power back to the states , like in the begining ... hold their feet to the fire and let them spend their time in the state and less in D.C. Egypt showed the world , that in peacefully uniting real change is possible ... I say it all the time at work these days, it's gonna take a revolution , We must remove all leaders in government who do not support the constitution and the bill of rights , the social contract that has held up for over 200 yrs... the law applies equally to everyone, your bank account or position in life DOES NOT MATTER the law applies equally ...the working people haven't had a voice in government for soooooo long... just lawyers and doctors and trust fund babies ...this is in my mind everday , and I tell as many as I can, it will change when WE CHANGE IT ...

[Another1]

Being 'right' or 'wrong' needs to be tempered with being smart because yelling at a rabid animal and proclaiming it has no right to eat you isn't gonna change its mind. If someone does decide to stand in front of a tank I hope that CNN is there with cameras and the general overseeing the tank driver knows the world is watching. If not for the cameras, a person would just become brave road kill.

Advice I remember from previous programming, 'let the other guy die for his cause'

[gripreaper]

The basic context of: "If we don't do something we are going to lose our freedoms" is totally fallacious. The idea that we have a Constitution which gives us certain rights, is also fallacious. The idea that the elite controllers are closing down on America, which is the last bastion of freedom, is also fallacious. The idea that genocide is coming upon us, is true, but not exclusive to this generation, or this country.

The scope of this post is not to take you though an entire history lesson, but America is not free, nor has it ever been. Even at the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the signing of the Constitution, several delegates were outraged how the elite nobility were writing the Constitution for themselves and their posterity, leaving out the common man, and demanded the attachment of a "Bill of Rights". Why do you need to attach a bill of rights to a constitution if the prevailing document upholds human rights? Because it did not.

In the early part of the last century, 150 million people lost their lives through an engineered pathogen called "The Spanish Flu", right on the heels of World War 1, the "War to end all Wars" in which over 50 million people worldwide lost their lives. Roll back the clock further into Europe and Rome and similar atrocities have been occurring for centuries. This is nothing new or specific to America.

We are corporate statutory citizens, owned by the elite corporatocracy, lock, stock and barrel. Our parents sign us up for it when we are born, and get us our SS slave number, which we put on all of our documents we sign throughout our lives. We adhere to the statutory rules and regulations, pay our fees, our usury, our taxes, our registrations, our licenses, and all of our energy.

We pay up front to these elite controllers, over 50% of our hard labor through taxes, while supporting a fiat based system of debt for the basic necessities of life with the other 50%. Most humans are flat broke, and those which are not, who have somehow been able to game the system and store up for themselves resources which they "believe" insulate them from poverty, are sorely mistaken.

There are no allodial titles, no sovereign immunity, or any asset based systems of ownership. We get "possessionary rights" as long as we follow the slave system and do as we are told, and adhere to the societal consciousness. We get a few weeks off, a few beers and some sports and some porn, but not much else.

We serve this system, acquiesce to it, and feed it every day. We starve ourselves while feeding this beast, embracing the beast we rail against and loathe while we pound on the castle walls. We are the quintessential Alice in Wonderland and are lost in the rabbit hole, while we see the mad hatter, we dance in our illusions and give our power away. Although we see the wizard behind the curtain, it was the dog Toto who actually pulled the curtain back and pointed it out to us. We cannot just click our heels and go back to some proverbial place where the comfort of sleep is assured.

The first step is to recognize we already are here in a New World Order. It is not something which is coming to a theater near you soon, it is here now. Going from paper based to digital will not change much, so why do we fear the digital age of tyranny any more than the tyranny we are already in?

The elite don't care. To them, it's just like buying a new typewriter for their business to make it more efficient. To them, it is a corporate decision on how best to manage their assets and their production. When the typewriter is worn out, or becomes obsolete, they just throw it away.

If their corporation is not running efficiently, they will do whatever is necessary to purge the liabilities from their balance sheet so that more profit falls to the bottom line. If that means mothballing a few factories (countries) and replacing old equipment with newer more efficient equipment (us humans) then that is what they will do, and do it very unemotionally with the stroke of a pen or by orders sent down to management. The managers and workers have no say in how the corporation is run.

Until the human race REALIZES THAT TYRANNY IS NOT A NATIONAL OR REGIONAL PROBLEM, AND UNITE as one voice, and quit focusing on the things which separate us and make us different, and focus on the things which unite us, we will not be able to jump the fence of the plantation and run for freedom. Toby will be pulled back over the fence onto the plantation by his peers, his friends and family who are comfortable with their slavery and do not want Toby to piss off the master.

The opposition is within and without. Until the 100th monkey shows up, we are still in the development stage of creating our dream, and enough inertia to make it happen.

We need to get the context right.

[good point]

It can only be so bad as to consume one person at a time. Nobody will care, if there's no will power in any direction. It's not based on popular support or racial decision making to uphold the rulings (laws) of constituents and elected officials. It isn't for police and militant combatants, either. It is up to the courts.

[etheric underground]

Friends.. I know that it is bad in all countries..including Australia, hell they did a lone gunman massacre
here and disarmed us ....we are probably worse off than americans presently.
My intention is, from what I have personally learnt.. that if America goes ( military state orwelian style)
then the rest of us have no chance. It is the rights and freedoms you created that prevented the Rothchilds, and
the rockefellers from dominating the world long ago..it kept the rest of us from there tyranny.
YOU ARE THE LAST FRONTIER ....if you allow all the bull**** to happen then we ( even in australia) dont stand a chance.
I would happily come and fight side by side with you if need be...plenty of my ex special ops friends still live in the states.
I have no fear in protecting the freedoms of the human race do you?

[Another1]

Bummer we didn't have more people like Ron Paul spend the last 30 years 'working with the system' and trying to 'help fix it from within' ~ even without drugs it's easy to imagine the world would be a different place today. Instead, we have 2-3 generations where the drumbeat has been, nothing matters, it's all good, your vote is wasted, that's just the way it is, you can't change anything, and on and on.

I had a southern preacher ready to kill me one night for the blasphemy of suggesting, "What if Jesus got here and we surprised him by starting the work ourselves?" ~ He only stopped due to 2 witnesses gasping. Can you imagine that? Billions of people who are programmed to believe it must all go to hell and fall down before things get better.

Someone else out here uses that Order from Chaos thing? I firget, it'll come to me

I see a game played over ages and ages. When everything falls down, they crawl out of their holes and begin a new crop.
It's just lather-rinse-repeat

Look back over the last generation or two and be honest as you draw up memories of the idealists and peace nics you've known.
How did the general public treat them?
Did they help them?
And remember this? "Oh ****, you're from the 60s, go back! go back!"
"You really believe your own chit don't you?"

I think that if the millions of people who unplugged to heal and clean themselves and get their power back, were to now step back into the machine and work from within it, something can be changed.
I got away with this on very small scale by working in back office of a newspaper for awhile. It can be fun when you get away with getting some 'news' into one of them things. :)
It's win-win, even if all still goes to hell we're ahead of the game with more contacts, more people we've reached, perhaps even more stuffs stocked up.

I hope some of the die-hards can forgive this rant one time.
I can't deny that according to the thought patterns of billions of people, war is coming, ugly with gnashing of teeth and all that.

An old man once grinned that I am a vision keeper. It's my job to hold it no matter what and that coyote was really my friend.
My vision has always been that we don't have to let it all fall down.

[GoodETxSG]

AGAIN, ALL BEAUTIFUL WORDS (SOME I AGREE WITH, SOME NOT)... But, the purpose of this Thread be it to start a conversation or not, when it comes down to it... what are you willing to sacrifice? Are you willing to stand up and put your JOHN HANCOCK on a parchment or two and make yourself an enemy of the establishment?

Sit back and think about what not only those who declared independence in America and then WON it but also all of the other "Remote Kingdoms" who now have their own seat at the (Completely Corrupt) United Nations.

Think long and hard about how scared they were going up against THE super power of the time. Think how they felt being labeled as Traitors/Terrorists having their land confiscated and declared enemies to be killed on sight... But, those brave "Traitors/Terrorists/Enemies of the State" are now in our history books labeled as "Heroes" and most of all "Patriots".

Now people with the same beliefs are beginning to be labeled as "Possible Enemies" or "Possible Domestic Terrorists"... Does anyone have any problem with this? If so... enough words... lets get started with some good ole FREE SPEECH while we still have it.

I'm not looking to offend but maybe agitate or stir thought and action. Nothing personal to any certain poster on this thread...

If you haven't noticed, OBAMA signed an EO giving him a "KILL SWITCH TO THE INTERNET"!!!

Fell like pulling a Brazil or an Iceland ANYONE? Or talk about it some more?

[CD7]

My intention is, from what I have personally learnt.. that if America goes ( military state orwelian style)
then the rest of us have no chance. It is the rights and freedoms you created that prevented the Rothchilds, and
the rockefellers from dominating the world long ago..it kept the rest of us from there tyranny.

IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED....for a looonnnggggg time---In US we are all SLAVES under the ILLUSION of sovereignty....so this type of reasoning is perplexing to me, and im sure it all depends on ones perspective...


YOU ARE THE LAST FRONTIER ....if you allow all the bull**** to happen then we ( even in australia) dont stand a chance.

NO WE NEVER WERE the last frontier--THE TRUE FRONTIER HAS NOT HAPPENED YET---like I said its an illusion. OUR CHANCE STANDS WHEN ALL PEOPLE/COUNTRIES COME TOGETHER AS ONE, drop the drawn lines in the sand, take the bull BY THE HORNS and send it back to where it came. Everyone work together in the ONE ship we are on, taking all sides front and back and NAVIGATING OURSELVES INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION as one people, one place, one land



I would happily come and fight side by side with you if need be...plenty of my ex special ops friends still live in the states.
I have no fear in protecting the freedoms of the human race do you?

Generating this train of thought will not change a thing...continuing to FIGHT 3d style DOES NOTHING. THE FIGHT IS WITHIN IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Take up your arms within and really make a mark ;)

[william r sanford72]

Billy says..lets kick some ass!!...William..says that ****e aint worked for 10.000 pluss years.time to re adjust past thinking and feeling.inward ...outward.still aint running.or hiding.im Winging it.pure soul instinct.cue the music...!!

[gripreaper]

This poor woman was out of the work force for 30 years, and when she went back to work, was stuck in old patterns.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFCCFS_lhA8

[good point]

Friends.. I know that it is bad in all countries..including Australia, hell they did a lone gunman massacre
here and disarmed us ....we are probably worse off than americans presently.
My intention is, from what I have personally learnt.. that if America goes ( military state orwelian style)
then the rest of us have no chance. It is the rights and freedoms you created that prevented the Rothchilds, and
the rockefellers from dominating the world long ago..it kept the rest of us from there tyranny.
YOU ARE THE LAST FRONTIER ....if you allow all the bull**** to happen then we ( even in australia) dont stand a chance.
I would happily come and fight side by side with you if need be...plenty of my ex special ops friends still live in the states.
I have no fear in protecting the freedoms of the human race do you?
America is the last frontier, it is to many, many explorers. The U.S. has been plagued by war for too long now. Only exiting the planet can compare with the United States of America. Anyway, this isn't anymore so than there being a world that must fall by peaceful protest or end in a final war.