An Interview with a Reptilian Alien (The 'Lacerta Files')

[AMystic3434]

I found this video interesting its a guy who interviews he claims a reptilian alien. Its just the transcript but its interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

[Ultima Thule]

Lacerta files. I've never previously read this. It was interesting - what was outlined was that the interviewee is a representative of inner earth reptilian race. They are not extraterrestrial, as they have their origins in earth. They are not against human race. Lacerta also talks of other reptilian races that are et, that may be hostile.

Either the interview is authentic or it is skillfully made compilation of esoteric material tied into history.
I have to admit that it felt authentic to me.

UT

[DNA]

I couldn't believe how much information felt right and pinged with the Lacerta Interview.
For starters, I really liked the information regarding earth's ancient history. Lacerta talks about a battle between ancient humans and ancient reptillians 65 million years ago that caused the great extinction scientists now attribute to a meteor of some sorts. Intriguing information. Lacerta states her people have archeologists that only know this because the humans left historic records on a near indistructible type metallic disc.
Further more, she states her race of reptillians here on earth, and the modern humans are not related to those who fought in this ancient war. Really wierd and cool.

I also like how Lacerta states that earth humans have been part of an on going experiment, a genetic experiment and that mankind has been fiddled with and the previous race exterminated so as not to pollute the newly created race.
She sounds like she is talking about Zacharia Sitchens Annunaki in terms of a older more ancient and powerfull race that is doing the genetic experiments.

Here is a little correlation I found with what is referred to as a type of reptillian that would be of Lacerta's people if she is in fact real, and a unwitting human who wondered into what Lacerta has described several times as one of the surface points of entry into one of their cities. It does not go well for the unwitting human woman, she is molested and her memory of the event erased, she goes to a therapist and gets regressed. I wouldn't be keen on sharing the information, but it correlates a lot of the Lacerta Interview in my opinion, and if one is interested in the Lacerta Interview, I would suggest reading the transcript of the interaction the unwitting human woman had in the superstion mountains.

Here are the correlating pieces, but it is also of note that Lacerta states it would not be a good thing for anyone to stumble upon one of their surface stations.


THE LACERTA INTERVIEW WITH A FEMALE REPTILIAN (http://www.whale.to/b/lacerta.html)

" Question: Have you a special symbol or something like that with which we can identify your kind?
Answer: We have two major symbols representing our species. One (the more ancient) symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background (the colors have religious meanings for us). This symbol was used from certain parts of my society, but it is today very seldom—you humans have copied it very often in your old writings. The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more common today. If you see one of that symbols on a cylindrical craft I've described in my previous answer or on some underground installation, this thing or place belongs definetely to us (and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible)
Question: The seven stars in the second symbol you've mentioned—do they mean the Pleiades?
Answer: Pleiades? No. Actually, the seven stars are planets and moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies in the solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth. The seven white stars mean Moon, Mars, Venus and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, we had colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct. "

" Question: Where can we find such a surface-near entry to your world?
Answer: Do you really think I will tell you their exact location? If you want to find such an entry, you have to search it by yourself (but I would advise you not to do that). When I came to the surface four days ago, I used an entry approximately 300 of your kilometres north from here near to a large lake, but I doubt that you would be able to find it (there are only a few entries in this part of the world—more are far more north and east).
As a little advice: if you are in a narrow cave or in a tunnel or even in something that looks to you like an artificial mine shaft and as deeper you walk as smoother appear the walls and if you feel unusual warm air streaming from the depth or if you hear the rushing sound of streaming air in a ventilation or elevator shaft, then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in the cave with a door made of gray metal. If you would be able to open that door (but I doubt this) you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to the depth. This is probably an entry to our world (See more information on these tunnels in the "Branton Files"..
If you have reached this point, you should know that we are now definetely aware of your presence. You are already in big trouble if you have entered the round room, but you should look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls. If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our kind. Some new tunnel systems are operated from alien races (including hostile races). My general advice if you find yourself in a for you strange underground installation: run away as fast as you can."

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REPTILIAN RAPE IN THE SUPERSTITION MOUNTAINS (http://www.reptilianagenda.com/exp/e111600b.shtml)

" She discovered she was in an oval room about fifteen feet across. The low ceiling was domes with deep ribs of a soft pale purple. From those arched robs a while light shone. The light was bright, but not harsh. On her left, lights of amber and blue flashed on the wall. "


" Two aliens wore either a grey scarf or a wide ribbon draped over their shoulder. Under the soft looking ribbons they wore a white jump suit with insignia that showed a curved dragon with a seven point star in the middle of it. The other 'reptile-men' wore black uniforms with the same insignia. The tall WHITE SKINNED lizard man [note: these "White Dracos" have also been seen in the Dulce - Los Alamos - Kirtland AFB mega-base] wore a burnt orange jump suit with three insignia on the left side. There was a black inverted triangle, the round dragon with star, and an oval with moving stars on it. She felt fascinated by that one. It was like watching a 3d movie in miniature. On the right side of his uniform were three black bars on a silver disk. On the left cuff of his sleeve he wore a row of inverted triangles with three lines cutting through it. "

[Mulder]

I have to wonder why hasn't this been discussed earlier - it was done in 1999 and is suddenly news today!

From the parts I've so far heard, it's not telling me anything new and is very "verbose" e.g. "Creatures with more powerful mental powers can have an influence on the 'paralayer"..." 1.34.30 secs -I don't know what a "paralayer" is.

[chocolate]

Thank you,AMystic3434. This could be old news for some of you, but it is a new piece of information for me.
I believed it. It can be linked in a way with the thread about the abductions, too.
Unfortunately i cannot share it with anyone, with some small exceptions since nobody around me will believe this, but i guess it is their loss.
Notice the mentioning of the beings that are so powerful, that can destroy the world with one thought. Is calls for jim to hear it.

[Spiral]

I believed it. It can be linked in a way with the thread about the abductions, too.
Unfortunately i cannot share it with anyone, with some small exceptions since nobody around me will believe this, but i guess it is their loss.


There are a lot of very open minded people on here, and your experiences I'm sure would be well received.

Not all the Forum sections are open to the public, some like the Contactee section is members only and would be a good place to post if you would like too.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?33-Contactees

[DNA]

When I think of folks not understanding why the Smithsonian would go to such great lengths to cover up the secret history of the earth's past human civilizations, and well civilizations of other races, you have to ask yourself, how would human beings react if they knew not only are there pockets of ancient human civilizations still alive in various underground cities, but possible reptillian folks as well.

I don't think the "disclosure" people feel they diserve would neccesarily give them the information they think they want.
Disclosure may not mean we are occasionally getting a UFO fly by, but instead, that we have prehistoric advanced civilizations of human and advanced non-humans as well.

For instance, think of what Ignatious Donnelly wrote in his book from 1900 on Atlantis. Donnelly was said to have access to a secret area in the Smithsonian by a high level informant showing him skeletons of giants and tools from ancient civilizations.
And think of what Charles Fort wrote back in 1919

Again, I’m not the first one to think that the earth is a owned commodity in an extraterrestrial owned farm so to speak. Charles Forte in his 1919 “book of the damned” agreed very much with what Robert Morning Star states.

In the below excerpt Charles Forte says that not only is the earth owned, but the only reason that academics, politicians and institutions could be so complicit in the cover up (of flying saucers and other obvious ET activity), is if indeed there are agents of the aliens, provocateurs so to speak, on earth doing the alien’s bidding.
So this cover up has been going on a lot longer than the 1947 Roswell incident.



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png I suspect that, after all, we're useful—that among
contesting claimants, adjustment has occurred, or that
something now has a legal right to us, by force, or by
having paid out analogues of beads for us to former,
more primitive, owners of us—that all of this has been
known, perhaps for ages, to certain ones upon this
earth, a cult or order, members of which function like
bellwethers to the rest of us, or as superior slaves or
overseers, directing us in accordance with instructions
received—from Somewhere else—in our mysterious
usefulness.

[lookbeyond]

More food for thought-this one likely to lead to indigestion, lb

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I found this video interesting its a guy who interviews he claims a reptilian alien. Its just the transcript but its interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

This interview was very interesting and no B.S. alarm bells were sounded.

Let's assume that the information is correct for the purpose of doing a little brainstorming.

The big questions for me are:



Why do more technologically advanced and more intelligent race(s) feel the need to hide from us humans?
If some non-humans like the warm sunshine so much, why are they underground? What are they afraid of?
If other races are so advanced and more powerful than us, and have the ability to shape shift and easily deceive us humans, why do some of them still lie to us?
If some of these non-human entities feel the need to hide and lie to us, are we far more powerful than we know? Powerful enough to upset the non-human agenda?
Are there some even more powerful entities watching to make sure certain rules of this game, unknown to us humans, are not broken?


Anyone have any thoughts? :ear:

Just brainstorming, Ron :der:

[DNA]

This interview was very interesting and no B.S. alarm bells were sounded.

Let's assume that the information is correct for the purpose of doing a little brainstorming.

The big questions for me are:


Why do more technologically advanced and more intelligent race(s) feel the need to hide from us humans?

I'm going to attempt to answer, I do not neccesarily think I am correct but for the sake of brevity, I'm not going to paraphrase every answer with a maybe or it could be.

It may not be they are hiding from humans.
In the interview the being Lacerta states that mankind has been manipulated by a race far more powerfull than they are.
It is not clear exactly who this race is, but they sound like the Annunaki, and if so, the greys could possibly be in their service.

They may not be hiding from us, our government may be hiding them from us and through doing so they are taking advantage of a civilizations choice to live underground rather than on the surface.



If some non-humans like the warm sunshine so much, why are they underground? What are they afraid of?

Again, they never stated they were the alpha race of the galaxy and living underground may provide a defense against off world threats.






If other races are so advanced and more powerful than us, and have the ability to shape shift and easily deceive us humans, why do some of them still lie to us?

They don't shape shift according to Lacerta. They take advantage of a mental defect introduced into our genetics by this race doing genetic experimentations on us. The Annunaki or such. They project the image into our brain of what they want us to see via telepathy. This is echoed by Ingo Swann in his book penetration.

They question of a lie entails ethics and reasons we probably have no idea of, but compassion could play into it.
Most folks would sh!t their efn pants if a reptillian walked up to them in a dark alley.



If some of these non-human entities feel the need to hide and lie to us, are we far more powerful than we know?

In saying hiding and what not, some assumptions are being made, and I just don't think we have enough data. We have limited data, as such it is easy to jump to conclusians.
I doubt power such as you are stating is relevent.

Though, Robert Morningsky would say this is the case in his Terra Papers.
In his Terra Papers, Morningsky is basically stating that the Annunaki Lacerta is referring to are from Sirius, and they are a wolf based large intimidating human.
The connection to what you are saying is that Morninsky states that a high level Sirian "royal" injected his DNA into our ancestors, thus protecting mankind from caste of SLAVE.
This same DNA Morninsky would probably tell you could make mankind a source of power to be feared.



Powerful enough to upset the non-human agenda?


I don't know what this agenda is.





Are there some even more powerful entities watching to make sure certain rules of this game, unknown to us humans, are not broken?

Like a prime derective from Star Trek?
Maybe.
We can only hope.
Our best case scenario would entail a benevolent civilization is in control in so far as this sector of space is concerned.

It appears some type of politics have changed in the past few hundred years if you are to believe what William Bramely writes.


Bramley states that UFO's and aliens have caused many of the wars and calamities of mankind. Further he states that many of the really huge epidemics could probably be laid at the feet of extraterrestrials.

Bramley states that in the times of the Black Plague that swept Europe in the middle ages, folks reported seeing hooded figures with a large mist spewing instrument, and that these mists would become fogs of death. Bramely states these figures always hid their face in large black cloaks, and that the mist spewing instrument resembled a scythe, and that these sightings were the basis for what we now call the grim reaper.
Fogs of death were often reported before the onset of an epidemic in these times according to Bramley.

[Roisin]

Our species has reached past its point of sustainable numbers and we're adding the entire population of Germany to the world's global population -- every year. In 20 years, the current world population will have TRIPLED. And by the middle of this century, the World Health Organization claims that there will be 9 billion people on our planet. This will cause an enormous strain on the already dwindling availability of our natural resources. Clean water will become more and more scarce. Entire species of animals that keep our ecosystem balanced will become more and more extinct. And due to overpopulation, people will steal and kill to stay alive. The name of the game will be 'the survival of the fittest' and the reptilians know this. They don't have to resort to any methods of their own to claim our planet as their own because they know that all they have to do is patiently wait a few more decades before our numbers will be much more manageable for them to gain complete control over us because by then we will have managed to destroy ourselves where there will only be a small number of isolated groups left that are scattered in remote area's of the world. This all sounds like science fiction doesn't it? I hope that's all it is.

[Sidney]

Our species has reached past its point of sustainable numbers and we're adding the entire population of Germany to the world's global population -- every year. In 20 years, the current world population will have TRIPLED. And by the middle of this century, the World Health Organization claims that there will be 9 billion people on our planet. This will cause an enormous strain on the already dwindling availability of our natural resources. Clean water will become more and more scarce. Entire species of animals that keep our ecosystem balanced will become more and more extinct. And due to overpopulation, people will steal and kill to stay alive. The name of the game will be 'the survival of the fittest' and the reptilians know this. They don't have to resort to any methods of their own to claim our planet as their own because they know that all they have to do is patiently wait a few more decades before our numbers will be much more manageable for them to gain complete control over us and rule the world. This all sounds like science fiction doesn't it?

The earth consists of mostly water, and they DO have the technology to de-salinate it so water essentially should be free(but of course its another of their big secrets). In my opinoin, its is not the numbers of people, but the garbage that we put out each and every waking moment. All of the toxic waste that is buried on land and at sea. If we can stop Monsanto & Co. and Chemtrails & Co.. get back to nature, utilize the free energy that is secretly available, and utilize the water de-salinazation, the only thing really to deal with is waste. And of course getting changing the 1% statistic so that we all have equal rights to live healthy and happy.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Our species has reached past its point of sustainable numbers and we're adding the entire population of Germany to the world's global population -- every year. In 20 years, the current world population will have TRIPLED. And by the middle of this century, the World Health Organization claims that there will be 9 billion people on our planet. This will cause an enormous strain on the already dwindling availability of our natural resources. Clean water will become more and more scarce. Entire species of animals that keep our ecosystem balanced will become more and more extinct. And due to overpopulation, people will steal and kill to stay alive. The name of the game will be 'the survival of the fittest' and the reptilians know this. They don't have to resort to any methods of their own to claim our planet as their own because they know that all they have to do is patiently wait a few more decades before our numbers will be much more manageable for them to gain complete control over us and rule the world. This all sounds like science fiction doesn't it?

You are probably right about major depopulation due to the survival of the fittest, wars, food riots, etc.

But my gut feeling is that there is more to the story concerning why non-humans appear to be patiently waiting. With their technology, it seems as if it would easy work for them to create a virus that killed humans but not non-humans. I expect that patience is not an attribute of non-humans who want the planet for themselves.

Someone should use this scenario and make a movie. Maybe someone has.

[Roisin]

Sidney... Lol, I like the last part of your comment best! Excellent suggestions that may just save us from ourselves.

[Roisin]

Our species has reached past its point of sustainable numbers and we're adding the entire population of Germany to the world's global population -- every year. In 20 years, the current world population will have TRIPLED. And by the middle of this century, the World Health Organization claims that there will be 9 billion people on our planet. This will cause an enormous strain on the already dwindling availability of our natural resources. Clean water will become more and more scarce. Entire species of animals that keep our ecosystem balanced will become more and more extinct. And due to overpopulation, people will steal and kill to stay alive. The name of the game will be 'the survival of the fittest' and the reptilians know this. They don't have to resort to any methods of their own to claim our planet as their own because they know that all they have to do is patiently wait a few more decades before our numbers will be much more manageable for them to gain complete control over us and rule the world. This all sounds like science fiction doesn't it?

You are probably right about major depopulation due to the survival of the fittest, wars, food riots, etc.

But my gut feeling is that there is more to the story concerning why non-humans appear to be patiently waiting. With their technology, it seems as if it would easy work for them to create a virus that killed humans but not non-humans. I expect that patience is not an attribute of non-humans who want the planet for themselves.

Someone should use this scenario and make a movie. Maybe someone has.

I sure hope you're wrong about that but what you are saying is not beyond the realm of possibilities. It could very well happen and it would be an easy way to get rid of us.

I don't know if they've made a movie using the scene that you described but I think it's about time they make one. It would present a possible future that everyone needs to know about.

[Carmody]

Anyone who wants this planet would be far better off creating a perfect virus. One with a high kill rate and the perfect gestation period, and the best infection vector. Airborne, 12 days of not being found or noted, 90% kill rate, and so on. half the planet's population would be gone in about 3-4 weeks, with no way of stopping it.

No one has done this, so that ..as a direct answer, makes the scenario of 'wanting the planet with no-one in their way that can stop them', a no-show. That's off the table. Advanced races that can genetically manipulate could cook that one up in a few days, at best. anyone more advanced than us, has such technology in their hands. No doubt about that.

This means the agenda or situation lies someplace else.

Forced to guess, with my personal capacity to see through time to some degree, and to astral travel,and to have the ability to integrate with energies and shift them, I'm partially forced (in the personal sense) to look at it being someplace between Dolores cannon's view/results and that of Micheal newton's results. For, within both of those views, lies the ability for all of the rest of it to fit.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Anyone who wants this planet would be far better off creating a perfect virus. One with a high kill rate and the perfect gestation period, and the best infection vector. Airborne, 12 days of not being found or noted, 90% kill rate, and so on. half the planet's population would be gone in about 3-4 weeks, with no way of stopping it.

No one has done this, so that ..as a direct answer, makes the scenario of 'wanting the planet with no-one in their way that can stop them', a no-show. That's off the table. Advanced races that can genetically manipulate could cook that one up in a few days, at best. anyone more advanced than us, has such technology in their hands. No doubt about that.

This means the agenda or situation lies someplace else.

Forced to guess, with my personal capacity to see through time to some degree, and to astral travel,and to have the ability to integrate with energies and shift them, I'm partially forced (in the personal sense) to look at it being someplace between Dolores cannon's view/results and that of Micheal newton's results. For, within both of those views, lies the ability for all of the rest of it to fit.

Perhaps some non-human races who want to control this planet have realized that their own evolution can be limited by their actions and lack of respect for life.

Perhaps some who have messed with human DNA and not respected human life, know that the way to remove blocks to their own evolution is to allow, maybe assist, with human evolution.

Maybe some of those non-humans :cantina: are multidimensional extensions of Avalonians. :faint:

That would make a great movie. I like the ending. :rockon:

Just brainstorming, Ron :der:

[Ultima Thule]

Regarding genetic manipulation - in the interview the manipulating race was referred to by Lacerta as "Illojim", if I remember the spelling right. Which clearly seems to suggest Elohim, which brings up the question whether so called Elohim and Annunnaki are the very same species?

UT

[apokalypse]

is not about believe in the interviewer but importantly is this Et's that he contacted with. Listen to it right now and great stuff so far...

[Sith73]

I found this audio clip years ago and from what I know personally and from my own research this is very truthful. The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs is a very believable story to those that do not know the true past. Yes a weapon was used which wiped them out an much of other things on planet. Whats been taught in schools has been a lie for a very long time and its sad. I'm really sick of the current educational system that is dumbing down the younger generation. This wrong will be made right soon for the world and not just the USA. Education should be free as well many other things. There are many exotic lifeforms out there including reptilians, some good some hostile. Some of that exotic life walks among us without anybody ever noticing. One day you will talking and making friends with somebody from another world here on Terra. To some this is very strange as many are not ready for the changes coming.

Love and light to all!

[Dorjezigzag]

Regarding genetic manipulation - in the interview the manipulating race was referred to by Lacerta as "Illojim", if I remember the spelling right. Which clearly seems to suggest Elohim, which brings up the question whether so called Elohim and Annunnaki are the very same species?

UT

This makes me think of William Blake and this stunning image

http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/N/N05/N05055_10.jpg

Here is the text from the Tate

Elohim is a Hebrew name for God. This picture illustrates the Book of Genesis:
‘And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground’. Adam is shown growing out of the earth, a piece of which Elohim holds in his left hand.

For Blake the God of the Old Testament was a false god. He believed the Fall of Man took place not in the Garden of Eden, but at the time of creation shown here, when man was dragged from the spiritual realm and made material.

http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/blake-elohim-creating-adam-n05055

[Ron Mauer Sr]

This interview was very interesting and no B.S. alarm bells were sounded.

Let's assume that the information is correct for the purpose of doing a little brainstorming.

The big questions for me are:


Why do more technologically advanced and more intelligent race(s) feel the need to hide from us humans?

I'm going to attempt to answer, I do not neccesarily think I am correct but for the sake of brevity, I'm not going to paraphrase every answer with a maybe or it could be.

It may not be they are hiding from humans.
In the interview the being Lacerta states that mankind has been manipulated by a race far more powerfull than they are.
It is not clear exactly who this race is, but they sound like the Annunaki, and if so, the greys could possibly be in their service.

They may not be hiding from us, our government may be hiding them from us and through doing so they are taking advantage of a civilizations choice to live underground rather than on the surface.



If some non-humans like the warm sunshine so much, why are they underground? What are they afraid of?

Again, they never stated they were the alpha race of the galaxy and living underground may provide a defense against off world threats.






If other races are so advanced and more powerful than us, and have the ability to shape shift and easily deceive us humans, why do some of them still lie to us?

They don't shape shift according to Lacerta. They take advantage of a mental defect introduced into our genetics by this race doing genetic experimentations on us. The Annunaki or such. They project the image into our brain of what they want us to see via telepathy. This is echoed by Ingo Swann in his book penetration.

They question of a lie entails ethics and reasons we probably have no idea of, but compassion could play into it.
Most folks would sh!t their efn pants if a reptillian walked up to them in a dark alley.



If some of these non-human entities feel the need to hide and lie to us, are we far more powerful than we know?

In saying hiding and what not, some assumptions are being made, and I just don't think we have enough data. We have limited data, as such it is easy to jump to conclusians.
I doubt power such as you are stating is relevent.

Though, Robert Morningsky would say this is the case in his Terra Papers.
In his Terra Papers, Morningsky is basically stating that the Annunaki Lacerta is referring to are from Sirius, and they are a wolf based large intimidating human.
The connection to what you are saying is that Morninsky states that a high level Sirian "royal" injected his DNA into our ancestors, thus protecting mankind from caste of SLAVE.
This same DNA Morninsky would probably tell you could make mankind a source of power to be feared.



Powerful enough to upset the non-human agenda?


I don't know what this agenda is.





Are there some even more powerful entities watching to make sure certain rules of this game, unknown to us humans, are not broken?

Like a prime derective from Star Trek?
Maybe.
We can only hope.
Our best case scenario would entail a benevolent civilization is in control in so far as this sector of space is concerned.

It appears some type of politics have changed in the past few hundred years if you are to believe what William Bramely writes.


Bramley states that UFO's and aliens have caused many of the wars and calamities of mankind. Further he states that many of the really huge epidemics could probably be laid at the feet of extraterrestrials.

Bramley states that in the times of the Black Plague that swept Europe in the middle ages, folks reported seeing hooded figures with a large mist spewing instrument, and that these mists would become fogs of death. Bramely states these figures always hid their face in large black cloaks, and that the mist spewing instrument resembled a scythe, and that these sightings were the basis for what we now call the grim reaper.
Fogs of death were often reported before the onset of an epidemic in these times according to Bramley.

Hi DNA,

Thanks for your answers. It appears as if you have done much research.

I've taken another look at some of the Robert Morningsky information, and it looks credible.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGEd4-vnxBs

[Ron Mauer Sr]

The big questions for me are:




Why do more technologically advanced and more intelligent race(s) feel the need to hide from us humans?
If some non-humans like the warm sunshine so much, why are they underground? What are they afraid of?
If other races are so advanced and more powerful than us, and have the ability to shape shift and easily deceive us humans, why do some of them still lie to us?
If some of these non-human entities feel the need to hide and lie to us, are we far more powerful than we know? Powerful enough to upset the non-human agenda?
Are there some even more powerful entities watching to make sure certain rules of this game, unknown to us humans, are not broken?




Anyone have any thoughts? :ear:

Just brainstorming, Ron :der:

Found this potentially valid answer in another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61075-Discerning-Allies-from-Adversaries&p=700931&viewfull=1#post700931).


"According to Greater Community rules of conduct within the region in which our world exists, Intervention is not allowed unless it can be demonstrated that the native people welcome and approve of it. Here, our voices can have power in the Greater Community. At this moment the Intervention has few critics. But if enough people can become aware of it and speak out against it, the Intervention will be thwarted and must withdraw."

[Nick Matkin]

I have some questions that I'm sure many of the informed forum members here may be able to answer:

1) Does anyone know how many subterranean humanoid/reptilians there are right now, and if so how was this figure derived?

2) Admittedly we know very little of what exists under our feet or in the oceans from direct observations. However, our studies during earthquakes and oil/gas/mineral exploration (and possibly underground nuclear tests) has enabled us to indirectly study truly vast underground regions through sound and seismic waves. I don't know what level of granularity these tests reveal, but I'd expect huge voids housing underground cities to show up. Any geologists out there care to comment?

3) I'm assuming these beings keep well away from earthquake zones, but wouldn't they find our underground nuclear tests and other explosions for mining, mineral-resource detection either very irritating or perhaps even threatening for them? Are there any examples of them trying to stop these explosions?

4) If our human DNA had been tampered with at any time in our past, wouldn't any irregularities or discontinuities have been revealed as such during the human gnome project? Would any geneticists like to comment here? (Many hundreds of labs took part in this research across the world, so no accusations of cover-ups please, unless you have proof.)

Regards,

Nick

[DNA]

I have some questions that I'm sure many of the informed forum members here may be able to answer:

1) Does anyone know how many subterranean humanoid/reptilians there are right now, and if so how was this figure derived?


I don't think anyone can say with too much certainty that they actually exist, so it's hard to speculate as to a population figure.
I'm into this information and I've never heard of any kind of population number thrown around.




2) Admittedly we know very little of what exists under our feet or in the oceans from direct observations. However, our studies during earthquakes and oil/gas/mineral exploration (and possibly underground nuclear tests) has enabled us to indirectly study truly vast underground regions through sound and seismic waves. I don't know what level of granularity these tests reveal, but I'd expect huge voids housing underground cities to show up. Any geologists out there care to comment?


You're question assumes counter intelligence measures haven't been inacted. A lot of people think National Parks and other non-devolopment tools are put in place in suspected underground base/cities.



3) I'm assuming these beings keep well away from earthquake zones, but wouldn't they find our underground nuclear tests and other explosions for mining, mineral-resource detection either very irritating or perhaps even threatening for them? Are there any examples of them trying to stop these explosions?


I wouldn't assume they are away from earthquake zones. The pyramids are still standing. The ruins of Machu Pichu are still standing. There is evidence that the ancients knew how to build earthquake proof structures with the interlocking large uneven block building method.
Some folks think some of our underground nuclear tests were in fact concealed attacks on some of these bases.
Phil Schnieder said as much about the nuclear test on the Bikini Islands.
We probably wouldn't know of any attempts to stop these actions, there is evidence these folks have agents in the midst of higher government, business and acadamia.


4) If our human DNA had been tampered with at any time in our past, wouldn't any irregularities or discontinuities have been revealed as such during the human gnome project? Would any geneticists like to comment here? (Many hundreds of labs took part in this research across the world, so no accusations of cover-ups please, unless you have proof.)

Regards,
Nick


You ever hear of that term junk DNA?
They tend to ignore it.
Also, I'm no geneticist, but wouldn't they need a comparable sample to analyze?
From what this interview stated, the progenator race wipes out the old genetic standard before installing the new.
Just for sake of comparison, Lacerta states that mankind has been wiped out completly atleast seven times before. Billy Meier echoes this as well in his communications with folks he calls Plieadians.
A complete genocide is what they are talking about.
Could pockets of these past civilizations still live in underground bases we presume to be alien bases? Pockets that somehow survived the apocolypse of their day?
Maybe
The folks at Mt. Shasta seem to fit this description to me.

[Atlas]

I agree with you on this and my discernment tells me that there are so many holes in the Lacerta story it's laughable...
Exactly Ross
This 'story' is more than a decade old and has nothing to do with contactees (or reality imo) It's an interesting read though as I always loved Science Fiction.

At 1:58:09, Lacerta says that the UFO below seems to be genuine:

March 23, 1974, 23:00. Albiosc, Alpes de Haute-Provence, France.
Photographer: it is believed to have been Jean Bedet.

As reported by Jean Bedet himself in Lumières Dans La Nuit of October 1974, he and a team of ufologists participated in the night watch in the region of Barjols, when they sighted a UFO described as a red object with green lines facing up (others saw these lines facing down!). On April 14, Bedet had to return to this village to see his parents and spend the day in the countryside.

He wrote: “I left my car in the Barjols village square to meet a friend and drink a coffee. Upon return to my car I found, under the windshield wipers, an envelope, inside which there was a piece of paper with a few lines written and a slide showing a red mass with tubes or green rays headed down…in the region of our night watch!”

http://img.xooimage.com/files26/f/3/7/picamafr04b-17347b7.jpg

This well-known picture has been published numerous times in magazines and books. The consensus among the top expert UFO researchers in France consulted is that it is a hoax made by Bedet himself, obviously designed to confirm their visual sighting of days before. (Source (http://www.noufors.com/Documents/Books,%20Manuals%20and%20Published%20Papers/Downloaded%20Papers/approach.pdf))

[turiya]

Rev. Douglas James Cottrell PhD: Reptilians and the Lacerta Files examined

Uploaded on Nov 7, 2008
QUESTION:
In 2004, there appeared on the internet the allegedly true story of a man in Sweden who had encountered, and spoken with, an intelligent, non-human being, reptilian in appearance. The creature claimed it lived in a colony deep underground. The lengthy interview with the creature came to be known as the “Lucerta Files”. Rumors exist of inhuman creatures like these, and colonies of humans (Lemurian, for example), living underground.
Please describe any intelligent entities – human or inhuman – secretly living underground (or in the interior of the Earth).

ANSWER:
Rev. Douglas James Cottrell PhD:
Understand, there are such people, humans & influences, such as that, that would be under the ground. There are beasts & there are humans – some live by choice. But to the question, there is a question of a whole race of people that would live underground, this would not be evidenced here, as we would see it.

There would be small factions or groups of people, for their own choice who would prefer to live in caves & underground homes, even now. We did not find here a race of non-human beings, or extra-terrestrials living underground.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ArFhxbo78k


turiya :cool:

[KevBoh]

I came across this following transcript/interview a year or 2 ago. I have also read the transcript in full. The claims are that the female is actually a female reptilian called 'Lacerta' Her claims will blow your socks off if you haven't seen it before. She talks about Illojim, I believe she means the elohim, enki, the Anunnaki. A lot of it makes sense with what I have learned during my 10 year quest.

The video is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXolRvGiuI and the transcript can be read here... http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_52.htm

I personally have found it fascinating. But of course I am not naive to the point of where I will believe anything that I read/hear, it is my natural instinct and my tenacity for transparency and the truth in relentless. So in my quest, I have tried to find any source that claims the above interview is a hoax. It seems to be airtight. Has anyone else have some information that would help solve this Puzzle? I hope you find it as interesting as I did. I'm sure this must have been circulated before as the Transcript is from 199 and year 2000 respectively, as there is 2 parts to it.

Some feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance :)

[Olaf]

German translations of the Lacerta interview:

www.bignose-media.de/lacerta.htm (http://www.bignose-media.de/lacerta.htm) and also on igeawagu.com (http://www.igeawagu.com/news/tierwesen-mischwesen/1059572073/0/Lacerta_Teil_1_Interview_mit_einer_reptoloiden_Frau_aus_dem_Erdinneren.html)

[Oouthere]

I would have to disagree with the UFO analysis. I have been within 5' of a craft on my patio and have seen another craft 100 to 200 yards away traveling about 10' above a river and neither of these were blurry. My daughter has seen one within 100' on our property and it was not blurry either. Perhaps blurriness is not really a consideration.

[Kirkland_Ta]

Hello, I know that this thread had been created quite some years ago, but I just had some questions or some thoughts that I wanted to share.

Lacerta files were the first alien-related-documents I had come across with. And to me, there were lots of statements that sounded truthful. I especially paid more attention to File#2, where she (Lacerta) told about how paranormal activities such as telekinesis, telepathy, etc. were nothing 'paranormal' but actual science themselves. I read her explanation and I swore that it fascinated me, suddenly I came to understand a lot more about how this 'universe'/'world' was composed of, and how we would use the mind device to access the information layers (which she would call the 'paralayer') to make an 'order' or a 'query' in order to invoke information about physical objects, or to change certain states of that physical objects. This was very alike to Computer Science - if any of you would know it. I instantly saw a link. And I know that even if Lacerta files were a HOAX, the information the author 'made up' (in case of HOAX) would be absolutely valuable. I also came to understand the explanation of Anti-gravity that she told about. Although I did not study Physics (I am a computer scientist/programmer), but I would like to ask anybody with physics understanding to read and think of the paragraphs and share with me what they think of the theory. The anti-gravity theory would be easier to get if you would have some basic knowledge of computer science too. I will try to write some kind of article that would explain what I understand about the information Lacerta shared in File#2, and in case there is already article on this information, I would like to read and learn!

My knowledge is limited and I have no previous experiences relating free-energy-device/deep spirituality exploration of the universe etc. please share with me your thoughts on the issue I talked above and please give me more advices. Thank you very much and lots of blessings and love to you!

[Lost N Found]

This might fit here real well, not sure so give it a try.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmKgK3RgNmY

[DNA]

Hello, I know that this thread had been created quite some years ago, but I just had some questions or some thoughts that I wanted to share.

Lacerta files were the first alien-related-documents I had come across with. And to me, there were lots of statements that sounded truthful. I especially paid more attention to File#2, where she (Lacerta) told about how paranormal activities such as telekinesis, telepathy, etc. were nothing 'paranormal' but actual science themselves. I read her explanation and I swore that it fascinated me, suddenly I came to understand a lot more about how this 'universe'/'world' was composed of, and how we would use the mind device to access the information layers (which she would call the 'paralayer') to make an 'order' or a 'query' in order to invoke information about physical objects, or to change certain states of that physical objects. This was very alike to Computer Science - if any of you would know it. I instantly saw a link. And I know that even if Lacerta files were a HOAX, the information the author 'made up' (in case of HOAX) would be absolutely valuable. I also came to understand the explanation of Anti-gravity that she told about. Although I did not study Physics (I am a computer scientist/programmer), but I would like to ask anybody with physics understanding to read and think of the paragraphs and share with me what they think of the theory. The anti-gravity theory would be easier to get if you would have some basic knowledge of computer science too. I will try to write some kind of article that would explain what I understand about the information Lacerta shared in File#2, and in case there is already article on this information, I would like to read and learn!

My knowledge is limited and I have no previous experiences relating free-energy-device/deep spirituality exploration of the universe etc. please share with me your thoughts on the issue I talked above and please give me more advices. Thank you very much and lots of blessings and love to you!


I really like the interview as well.

For me, the talk of underground bases felt truthful. Also mankind's history and the subsequent die offs. And how mankind has a perceptual mechanism making us easy to manipulate psychicly.

[Leonard]

I had just finished watching this 2 hours+ interview with a Reptilian Woman. Whether this video is true or not, I did want to say I learned a lot from this video. It is very worth watching~~
But I did want to say, "WE ARE INFINITE BEINGS!!" If we cleanse and train our body enough, we are the most powerful being in the universe.

Tell me what are you thoughts guys, enjoy~~

zcsqEK53ZFU

[DNA]

The Lacerta Interview has the strange property of agreeing circumstantially with various points in my pursuits to find the truth.
Is the video and or interview real?
It would make a lot of sense in this world of men who seem to do evil for the pure sake of showing off to someone whom they think will approve of their actions.
Are there catacombs linking Malta with the Vatican where the dark pope meets with his reptilian over lords? Are there such underground dwellings connecting the Reptilian underworld to the estates of human elites who owned royal titles in the past who now control our world?

I view the Reptilian concept with curiosity, I'll hope it is not true.
All that being said the Lacerta Interview stands tall in terms of circumstantial evidence giving it the feeling of legitimacy.

[Spellbound]

Has there been any info to date as to the authenticity of the Lacerta interview? What is the general consensus of Avalon almost 20 years later?? Do you think it's real?

Dave - Toronto

[DNA]

Has there been any info to date as to the authenticity of the Lacerta interview? What is the general consensus of Avalon almost 20 years later?? Do you think it's real?

Dave - Toronto


You have to corroborate various sources of information. One such source I find powerfully does would be The Reptilian Rape In the Superstition Mountains (http://reptilianagenda.com/exp/e111600b.shtml)story.
This story is about a woman who is walking with her dog alone in the Superstition Mountains of Apache Junction Arizona.

The woman was suffering from what she considered irrational fears of the outdoors after being fearless in the face of the untamed Superstition Mountain.
Her sister suggested she see a hypnotist and the hypnotist then ended up doing a regression on her.
Her story is of having accidentally fallen into a canyon wall after leaning on it, it turned out that the rock wall was a hologram.
She ended up in a room that sounds very much like what Lacerta describes one could find if one were looking for an entry point into one of their underground Reptilian bases. A lot of detail matches what Lacerta describes, including the insignias on the uniforms of the Reptilians who found this young lady and took advantage of her.

It should be noted that The Superstitions got their name from the fact that the Apache's where of the opinion that it was the place of the Gods.
They also believed that there was an entrance into hell located there.
Another interesting tid bit on The Superstitions would be that the place is known for loud "booms" that seem to come out of nowhere.
Some folks describe these booms as sounding like a sonic boom and these have been recorded all the way back to the time of the Native Americans who lived there.

On a personal note I know a dozen people who had a spectacular UFO sighting there, this sighting occurred during an outdoor rave being held there and thousands of participants stopped dancing to observe it, the DJ even stopped playing music.

I have another friend who is an avid hiker, she has a picture she took where nothing was there but when she developed it there was a cigar shaped craft.
The participants of the Rave also stated their UFO sighting was of a cigar shaped craft.
It is worth noting that Lacerta states in her interview that the reptilians use cigar shaped crafts.
It is also worth noting that this same friend who took the picture of the UFO once flew over the superstitions in a single engine small plane, and that she witnessed the instrument panel going crazy as they flew over the mountain, the compass dial and everything just started spinning.

[WhiteFeather]

Anyone who wants this planet would be far better off creating a perfect virus. One with a high kill rate and the perfect gestation period, and the best infection vector. Airborne, 12 days of not being found or noted, 90% kill rate, and so on. half the planet's population would be gone in about 3-4 weeks, with no way of stopping it.

No one has done this, so that ..as a direct answer, makes the scenario of 'wanting the planet with no-one in their way that can stop them', a no-show. That's off the table. Advanced races that can genetically manipulate could cook that one up in a few days, at best. anyone more advanced than us, has such technology in their hands. No doubt about that.

This means the agenda or situation lies someplace else.

Forced to guess, with my personal capacity to see through time to some degree, and to astral travel,and to have the ability to integrate with energies and shift them, I'm partially forced (in the personal sense) to look at it being someplace between Dolores cannon's view/results and that of Micheal newton's results. For, within both of those views, lies the ability for all of the rest of it to fit.

Very Interesting post. I just came across this post Carmody. Especially with what's going on today. Re Covid19

[WhiteFeather]

After reading all of the posts on this topic, I have to say I'm not quite convinced the Lacerta files was a hoax. Perhaps it needs some more elaboration.

[Denise/Dizi]

This interview was very interesting and no B.S. alarm bells were sounded.

Let's assume that the information is correct for the purpose of doing a little brainstorming.

The big questions for me are:


Why do more technologically advanced and more intelligent race(s) feel the need to hide from us humans?

I'm going to attempt to answer, I do not neccesarily think I am correct but for the sake of brevity, I'm not going to paraphrase every answer with a maybe or it could be.

It may not be they are hiding from humans.
In the interview the being Lacerta states that mankind has been manipulated by a race far more powerfull than they are.
It is not clear exactly who this race is, but they sound like the Annunaki, and if so, the greys could possibly be in their service.

They may not be hiding from us, our government may be hiding them from us and through doing so they are taking advantage of a civilizations choice to live underground rather than on the surface.



If some non-humans like the warm sunshine so much, why are they underground? What are they afraid of?

Again, they never stated they were the alpha race of the galaxy and living underground may provide a defense against off world threats.






If other races are so advanced and more powerful than us, and have the ability to shape shift and easily deceive us humans, why do some of them still lie to us?

They don't shape shift according to Lacerta. They take advantage of a mental defect introduced into our genetics by this race doing genetic experimentations on us. The Annunaki or such. They project the image into our brain of what they want us to see via telepathy. This is echoed by Ingo Swann in his book penetration.

They question of a lie entails ethics and reasons we probably have no idea of, but compassion could play into it.
Most folks would sh!t their efn pants if a reptillian walked up to them in a dark alley.



If some of these non-human entities feel the need to hide and lie to us, are we far more powerful than we know?

In saying hiding and what not, some assumptions are being made, and I just don't think we have enough data. We have limited data, as such it is easy to jump to conclusians.
I doubt power such as you are stating is relevent.

Though, Robert Morningsky would say this is the case in his Terra Papers.
In his Terra Papers, Morningsky is basically stating that the Annunaki Lacerta is referring to are from Sirius, and they are a wolf based large intimidating human.
The connection to what you are saying is that Morninsky states that a high level Sirian "royal" injected his DNA into our ancestors, thus protecting mankind from caste of SLAVE.
This same DNA Morninsky would probably tell you could make mankind a source of power to be feared.



Powerful enough to upset the non-human agenda?


I don't know what this agenda is.





Are there some even more powerful entities watching to make sure certain rules of this game, unknown to us humans, are not broken?

Like a prime derective from Star Trek?
Maybe.
We can only hope.
Our best case scenario would entail a benevolent civilization is in control in so far as this sector of space is concerned.

It appears some type of politics have changed in the past few hundred years if you are to believe what William Bramely writes.


Bramley states that UFO's and aliens have caused many of the wars and calamities of mankind. Further he states that many of the really huge epidemics could probably be laid at the feet of extraterrestrials.

Bramley states that in the times of the Black Plague that swept Europe in the middle ages, folks reported seeing hooded figures with a large mist spewing instrument, and that these mists would become fogs of death. Bramely states these figures always hid their face in large black cloaks, and that the mist spewing instrument resembled a scythe, and that these sightings were the basis for what we now call the grim reaper.
Fogs of death were often reported before the onset of an epidemic in these times according to Bramley.

Hi DNA,

Thanks for your answers. It appears as if you have done much research.

I've taken another look at some of the Robert Morningsky information, and it looks credible.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGEd4-vnxBs

Does anyone know where the other half of this video can be found?

I found them all if anyone is interested...


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3u9KKBOzdE_Izjk3l6JWGweTgmzlx8Qo

[Olaf]

The unknown background of the Lacerta files

I just discovered an Italian site, which is telling the almost unknown story, who first published the Lacerta files.

In the www.bibliotecapleyades.net (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_52.htm) it was stated, that the story was published by the Russian site
https://www.pravda.ru (http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/07/24/33132.html) in December 2002
and then it was copied to other sides.
But that is only the second part of the story.

Indeed the story of the Lacerta files begins in Germany in the year 2000.


http://www.francescograssi.com/adv/2004_07_06.htm

How did the "Lacerta case" originate and why did it spread like wildfire from Sweden to our country, where someone even gave weight to the interview?

It all began when the very young German scholar Christian Pfeiler - a Teutonic Federico Dezi - realised his great dream: to publish online a digital magazine dedicated to UFOs and the paranormal. In order to obtain the widest possible use, Cristian Pfeiler decides to divulge his and his collaborators' news and studies in English.
One day the boy receives a text in German (Lacerta File I) from a correspondent on the net; he is asked to translate it and publish it in the webzine.

Christian is not stupid. He understands perfectly well that he is faced with a literary invention, full of contradictions, anachronisms, scientific errors and yet he decides to translate the text and publish it in issue 9, reserving the right to take it apart in the next issue. Already the name of the interviewer, Mister K. (like the agent of the Men in Black cinema), puts Christian on the one who goes there.
When he then reads that the Reptilians are offended if their (unpronounceable) name is pronounced with the smallest mistake, like the insectoids of Star Trek and a series of quotations inspired by the great science fiction, he realizes that he has in his hands a "little story" that is not even too original.

The boy, however, translates the file, improving its form. In spite of the warning addressed to his readers, however, he realizes that someone, the most believable and emotional users, has taken it seriously, especially reading the incipit ("I certify that the text is true...").
The strange "chain of Saint Anthony" has now started and the interview goes from one computer to another, thanks to the tam tam of the very young "believers".

Lacerta's verb, nothing more than a joke, is translated into various languages and nobody thinks about verifying its source.

In December 2000 Christian, due to his school commitments, was forced to close the site. But now Lacerta has left the "cage". This is how rumours, fairy tales and even some myths are born today.

But let's go back a few steps. In the tenth issue of his webzine, online in April 2000, Christian Pfeiler writes: "Welcome to the tenth issue of the Ufo+Psi Research Magazine. Take a special look at my explanation of the Lacerta case, whose file appeared in issue 9. Of course it's a hoax! The interviewer has no background and comes from nowhere. His name is "Mister K." (Ole K., from Sweden), like the co-star of the film Men in Black. Mister K claims that the original document, derived from a 3-hour interview, consisted of 49 pages and that the interview he distributed is a reduction of it".
This is the first evident anachronism, which the boy immediately notices (and those who know the timing of an interview can see it in turn: how many hours it takes for 49 pages of text').
The very young ufologist continues: "I received the text a few weeks ago from a network friend in Hamburg, in German and in a confused form. I thought that the bad translation was by one of the "trusted friends" mentioned in the interview, originally in Swedish. I tested my English and did the translation, including the paragraph with the phrase 'I guarantee that the following text is absolutely true and not an invention'. So the English ufological community, as requested by my network friend, became aware of the document.
When I asked him for the drawings and the complete text, he wrote to me that he had seen them, but that Lacerta - through Mister K.- had not allowed their diffusion. I am able to prove that this is a hoax, as you can verify by reading my article dedicated to the Lacerta File, in this issue of Ufo+Psi Research Magazine".


You can find the complete statement of Christian Pfeiler, the publisher of the Lacerta Files at the following website:
http://www.francescograssi.com/adv/2004_07_06.htm

There is also a copy of the Original "UFO + PSI Magazine" that contains his critical analysis and the original Lacerta Files:
http://files.afu.se/Downloads/Magazines/Germany/UFO%20and%20PSI%20Magazine%20(Christian%20Pfeiler)/UFO+PSI%20Magazine%20-%20Issue%2010%20-%202000.pdf

[Agape]

Yes I believe the Lacerta files and many other , similar accounts of aka authentic documents with doubtful origins are always partially a placard piece of fiction
for number of reasons that sometimes do escape an eye of many dedicated researchers.

One of them may be the fact that no non-human entity no matter its intelligence is endowed with objective version of human history and in order to communicate with humans, the entity/entities would have to be rather very compassionate and revealing in their testimony to make relationship with humans or/alternatively their story and version of history can be put aside to fairytale shelf together with the rest of our imaginations.

Also “scientific terms” of another technologically advanced civilization are paradoxically not the easiest terms to translate to this very udatest version of human language no matter how highly do we evaluate our ..err...scientific prowess (?), 😄


Even from my own ET and human communications I do understand that plenty of time , sometimes years, is spent on understanding mutually similar terms- words and numbers and their importance and how our biological nature interacts with particular environments, learning about does and don’ts etc. That is relatively simple communication before it’s ever allowed to turn complex and complicated - to be understood simultaneously - permitting any complicated dialogue.

...


But and on the other hand, it all is also entirely possible and may be reoccurring singularity , rare clearing in dimensional mirror since all of our “imaginations” and fictions may be in reality, a memory of a reality in another place of the Multiverse.


🙏

[Inversion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE1mB58i6FE
5.20. Our race was genetically engineered by aliens.
5.57. She is not an ET, but a native Terran with colonies in the solar system.
6.13. Her name can’t be pronounced by us.
6.40. They only have a single name and she goes by Lacerta.
7.08. Their time is measured by magnetic cycles. In our view she was 28 at the time of the interview.
7.58. She’s a student of our species.
9.01. They have large cigar shaped ships and some disc shaped craft.
10.42. Their symbol is a blue serpent with white wings or a dragon with seven stars. They represent their seven colonies on the moon, Mars, Venus and moons of Jupiter & Saturn.
13.40. She is female with two breasts.
14.50. They can see better in the darkness.
15.30. They have a muscle that can cover their ears.
16.17. They only have hair on their heads which is thicker and grows slower. They have five fingers with no finger prints. Their fingernails are grey and the male’s are longer.
18.18. They have no navel.
19.00. They don’t wear clothes unless around humans and find them uncomfortable.
21.00. They have no visible tail, but their embryos do.
23.20. Their body temperature is 32-33 degrees Celsius.
23.42. They take great pleasure being in the sun and compare it to our sexual excitement.
24.04. They have artificial sun rooms in the underground.
24.14. They eat meat, fruit, vegetables and a special kind of mushroom grown in subterranean farms.
24.26. They can eat things that are poisonous to us. They would die without raw meat.
25.20. The event 65 million years ago was a war and not an impact.
25.49. A future war is coming soon.
27.17. Talks about bubble universes.
28.00. Some aliens come to earth for copper.
30.20. The event was caused by an experimental fusion bomb.
31.31. There was a 200 year nuclear winter.
37.55. We have a programmed mind.
39.40. Their knowledge of the ancient war came from an artifact found 16,000 years ago (or 60,000 I couldn’t hear it clearly) on the North American continent. It was a round and a crystal plate memory device.
42.20. Our Saurians in museums are assembled wrong.
42.50. The scientists don’t make that public.
43.40. There is no second sun inside the earth.
48.32. Some of them are in contact with scientists and politicians on the surface.
48.46. The meetings are about the upcoming war.
49.14. They can use telekinesis and telepathy from birth.
50.10. They can make us see them as one of our own kind.
52.29. They can kill with their psychic ability, but it’s forbidden.
52.48. They can’t influence cameras or film, only the photographer’s mind.
54.40. Their ships also have a psychic ability to make viewers believe they aren’t there.
55.41. The Elohim created our race. They sound like the Tall Whites (my comment).
57.04. We’re not the first human race on this planet.
58.00. We’re the seventh.
58.19. The fifth built the pyramids.
1.00.11. They had a war with the Elohims 4,943 years ago.
1.02.38. There are fourteen alien species on the planet. Eleven are from this universe, two from another bubble and one very advanced race from another plane.
1.03.50. Fifteen new races have showed up.
1.04.55. The future war will be fought over raw materials.
1.05.25. Three races are hostile.
1.07.55. The Elohim designed us intentionally without real protection for our minds against psychic influence.
1.08.20. She suggested not closing our eyes or laying down to combat external mental control.
1.10.20. The war could attack our social systems.
1.11.00. They don’t know if there will be a hot war.
1.12.00. End of the interview in 2000.
1.12.00-1.16.38. The interviewer talks about problems he had with gang stalking, physical and phone harassment.
1.16.40. Start of part two.
1.18.25. The Elohim are very sensitive to our light.
1.21.00. Our view of good and evil are generalizations.
1.24.25. There are five states of matter.
1.25.40. Information about antigravity.
1.31.00. Talked about bubbles.
1.32.00. Discussed the morphogenic fields.
1.33.00. Existence is always a duality.
1.35.20. Talks about moving a pencil with the mind.
1.35.50. Very technical and esoteric information.
1.36.55. Telekinesis and telepathy.
1.41.01. We see only one side of existence.
1.42.38. There is no magic only highly developed science.
1.44.05. Talks about UFO’s.
1.45.36. The magnetic field of the earth is unstable.
1.46.12. Talks about the Roswell crash and there were two craft.
1.48.00. Talks about a series of other crashes.
1.50.00. Behavior of hostile race.
1.54.20. We are ants to some races.
1.55.20. We need to solve our own problems. That’s what the alleged Blue Avian Ra-Teir-Eir said (my comment).
1.57.35. A UFO will swell water when over it.
2.00.00. Lacerta was explaining UFO photos.
2.04.00. She found a cabin in the woods on her way home. She talked to the man in it while using her mimic abilities. Earlier in the video it stated she uses an image of a human woman with brown hair.
2.10.00. She talked about their underground area being 25 kilometers in size. Some 500 kilometers away they have another one that's connected by a tunnel.

[Delight]

Thanks for the interesting video link and info of what is on the video. She described her appearance reminded me of the Ubaid sculptures.

https://img1.etsystatic.com/007/0/7448914/il_570xN.472396981_l58s.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ocelVviy73A/VrnoH9jcZaI/AAAAAAAAHn0/NSZqa2Ks-pQ/s1600/Ubaid-figurines_shadowsinedendotblogspotdotcom.png

https://el-libertario.webnode.es/_files/200008514-b5feeb7f25/de%20Ubaid,%20NIU%201.JPG

[Delight]

Many interesting representations of figures which if you take the most simple explanation represent encountered beings

OUR ANCIENT TEACHERS (http://m.el-libertario.webnode.es/en/nuestros-antiguos-instructores/)

[DNA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE1mB58i6FE
5.20. Our race was genetically engineered by aliens.
5.57. She is not an ET, but a native Terran with colonies in the solar system.
6.13. Her name can’t be pronounced by us.
6.40. They only have a single name and she goes by Lacerta.
7.08. Their time is measured by magnetic cycles. In our view she was 28 at the time of the interview.
7.58. She’s a student of our species.
9.01. They have large cigar shaped ships and some disc shaped craft.
10.42. Their symbol is a blue serpent with white wings or a dragon with seven stars. They represent their seven colonies on the moon, Mars, Venus and moons of Jupiter & Saturn.
13.40. She is female with two breasts.
14.50. They can see better in the darkness.
15.30. They have a muscle that can cover their ears.
16.17. They only have hair on their heads which is thicker and grows slower. They have five fingers with no finger prints. Their fingernails are grey and the male’s are longer.
18.18. They have no navel.
19.00. They don’t wear clothes unless around humans and find them uncomfortable.
21.00. They have no visible tail, but their embryos do.
23.20. Their body temperature is 32-33 degrees Celsius.
23.42. They take great pleasure being in the sun and compare it to our sexual excitement.
24.04. They have artificial sun rooms in the underground.
24.14. They eat meat, fruit, vegetables and a special kind of mushroom grown in subterranean farms.
24.26. They can eat things that are poisonous to us. They would die without raw meat.
25.20. The event 65 million years ago was a war and not an impact.
25.49. A future war is coming soon.
27.17. Talks about bubble universes.
28.00. Some aliens come to earth for copper.
30.20. The event was caused by an experimental fusion bomb.
31.31. There was a 200 year nuclear winter.
37.55. We have a programmed mind.
39.40. Their knowledge of the ancient war came from an artifact found 16,000 years ago (or 60,000 I couldn’t hear it clearly) on the North American continent. It was a round and a crystal plate memory device.
42.20. Our Saurians in museums are assembled wrong.
42.50. The scientists don’t make that public.
43.40. There is no second sun inside the earth.
48.32. Some of them are in contact with scientists and politicians on the surface.
48.46. The meetings are about the upcoming war.
49.14. They can use telekinesis and telepathy from birth.
50.10. They can make us see them as one of our own kind.
52.29. They can kill with their psychic ability, but it’s forbidden.
52.48. They can’t influence cameras or film, only the photographer’s mind.
54.40. Their ships also have a psychic ability to make viewers believe they aren’t there.
55.41. The Elohim created our race. They sound like the Tall Whites (my comment).
57.04. We’re not the first human race on this planet.
58.00. We’re the seventh.
58.19. The fifth built the pyramids.
1.00.11. They had a war with the Elohims 4,943 years ago.
1.02.38. There are fourteen alien species on the planet. Eleven are from this universe, two from another bubble and one very advanced race from another plane.
1.03.50. Fifteen new races have showed up.
1.04.55. The future war will be fought over raw materials.
1.05.25. Three races are hostile.
1.07.55. The Elohim designed us intentionally without real protection for our minds against psychic influence.
1.08.20. She suggested not closing our eyes or laying down to combat external mental control.
1.10.20. The war could attack our social systems.
1.11.00. They don’t know if there will be a hot war.
1.12.00. End of the interview in 2000.
1.12.00-1.16.38. The interviewer talks about problems he had with gang stalking, physical and phone harassment.
1.16.40. Start of part two.
1.18.25. The Elohim are very sensitive to our light.
1.21.00. Our view of good and evil are generalizations.
1.24.25. There are five states of matter.
1.25.40. Information about antigravity.
1.31.00. Talked about bubbles.
1.32.00. Discussed the morphogenic fields.
1.33.00. Existence is always a duality.
1.35.20. Talks about moving a pencil with the mind.
1.35.50. Very technical and esoteric information.
1.36.55. Telekinesis and telepathy.
1.41.01. We see only one side of existence.
1.42.38. There is no magic only highly developed science.
1.44.05. Talks about UFO’s.
1.45.36. The magnetic field of the earth is unstable.
1.46.12. Talks about the Roswell crash and there were two craft.
1.48.00. Talks about a series of other crashes.
1.50.00. Behavior of hostile race.
1.54.20. We are ants to some races.
1.55.20. We need to solve our own problems. That’s what the alleged Blue Avian Ra-Teir-Eir said (my comment).
1.57.35. A UFO will swell water when over it.
2.00.00. Lacerta was explaining UFO photos.
2.04.00. She found a cabin in the woods on her way home. She talked to the man in it while using her mimic abilities. Earlier in the video it stated she uses an image of a human woman with brown hair.
2.10.00. She talked about their underground area being 25 kilometers in size. Some 500 kilometers away they have another one that's connected by a tunnel.

Wonderful list of data points. Thank you!!!

[seehas]

Anyone who wants this planet would be far better off creating a perfect virus. One with a high kill rate and the perfect gestation period, and the best infection vector. Airborne, 12 days of not being found or noted, 90% kill rate, and so on. half the planet's population would be gone in about 3-4 weeks, with no way of stopping it.

No one has done this, so that ..as a direct answer, makes the scenario of 'wanting the planet with no-one in their way that can stop them', a no-show. That's off the table. Advanced races that can genetically manipulate could cook that one up in a few days, at best. anyone more advanced than us, has such technology in their hands. No doubt about that.

This means the agenda or situation lies someplace else.

Forced to guess, with my personal capacity to see through time to some degree, and to astral travel,and to have the ability to integrate with energies and shift them, I'm partially forced (in the personal sense) to look at it being someplace between Dolores cannon's view/results and that of Micheal newton's results. For, within both of those views, lies the ability for all of the rest of it to fit.

i just had to requote this :ROFL:

[Inversion]

AJ talks about the Lacerta files. The interviewer was named K after the character in MIB. The female reptilian name is Lacerta, and their race is called The Tern. We are the seventh version of slaves created by an alien race known as the Illogen (not sure of spelling) to mine copper for exotic technology. They came to earth 1.5 million years ago from Aldebaran. Another race from Procyon came here about the same time. Another reptilian race came to take over copper mining which caused a war. The Chicxulub crater was created by a copper bomb that caused a nuclear winter that lasted for 200 years. The fifth version of humans created the Giza pyramids 75,000 years ago and the 6th created the Bimini Road 16,000 years ago. Derinkuyu in Turkey is an entrance to The Tern civilization. They escaped underground when they were dinosaurs around the time the bomb detonated and evolved into a bipedal form.

The Why Files thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121830-The-Why-Files&p=1575047#post1575047)

01/02/25 (27:56)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUd4lXM0pwk

The Seventh Experiment: The Truth of our Creation

In December 1999, Sweden's most notorious UFO skeptic sat down for an interview that would challenge everything he believed. Ole K. had spent his career exposing hoaxes and debunking paranormal claims.

The being who called herself Lacerta revealed an underground civilization that had existed alongside humanity for millions of years. She explained humanity's true origins as a series of genetic experiments and warned of the imminent return of our creators.

From the mysteries of Derinkuyu to the truth about the dinosaurs' extinction, this story connects ancient mysteries to modern questions about human consciousness and evolution.


earthsky (https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/aldebaran-is-taurus-bloodshot-eye/)
https://earthsky.org/upl/2021/10/Pleiades-finder-Orion-1-e1635054281321.jpg

[Casey Claar]

The Lacerta Files landed back on my lap today.

As many of the previous links in this thread are now dead I will post a new one: The Lacerta Files (https://www.luisprada.com/the_lacerta_files/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIx4utleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHRoKQs3fdq-c7c-gU1HqKeOIbiuqvTP1aXt-ug5-nKXwUmFy9UUXtdz7UA_aem_tBmBYDsXnoZvmFV55tWLPw)

The website contains the source link (prior to being translated into English) and also a download as PDF option.

Here we go again!