Gordon Duff Discloses Reality Of UFO's & Aliens // Secret Space War IV: Terra Forming

[Cidersomerset]

Gordon Duff Discloses Reality Of UFO's & Aliens


This may have been posted before, but it was the first time
I heard it and it did not come up on the 'check'.

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Secret Space War IV: Terra Forming
Monday, 15 July 2013 11:25
Posted by David Icke

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'The Secret of the Iron Mountain Report has remained hidden until recently when astute
researchers have spent considerable time examining its true implications in light of what
has been recently disclosed by top insiders about the purposeful spraying of numerous
toxins and bio-weapons into the skies under Operation Cloverleaf.

And despite the usual denials that there was no Iron Mountain Study Group by the USG,
it is now believed that the Iron Mountain Study Group existed and was used as a tool to
lay the groundwork for Terra-Forming the earth in preparation for a later 21st century
full scale alien invasion.'

Read more: Secret Space War IV: Terra Forming
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/14/secret-space-war-iv-terra-forming/


http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/87150-secret-space-war-iv-terra-forming


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The latest Scy-fy series is all about this Alien Colonisation, Terra Forming of
Earth....Coincidence ?

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[Cidersomerset]

Full interview carries on after first 10 mins from vid above....



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Published on 31 Mar 2013


"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in
your own research." William Cooper

The text at the first of the video is the "The Secret Covenant" . . I simply included it
in case some viewers were unaware of its existence. Who knows if it's genuine? Not
me. It is suspicious that "they" would allow it to be written anywhere if in fact it
was genuine. On the other hand, it is my my opinion that those who are in control
of the darkness of this dark world are "the ones who from heaven to earth came,"
the Fallen Ones.
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From Project Camelot
http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerry...

[SNIP] The recent Mike Harris show with Gordon Duff as guest spilling the beans on
a supposed "deal" with an off-planet race of humanoids that are said to come from
Alpha Centari and are headed here (nearly a billion I am told by a separate
source)... Go to the Rense archives for today's radio show hosted by Mike Harris.
Must listen.

While I haven't heard it yet, I have heard things about what info it contains such as:

These visitors apparently look remarkably like the ideal Nazi.. big. light haired
(some say even albino in coloring) muscular and so on... The story goes, they are
in need of a large amount of real estate to settle their people on, having lost a war
with some unfriendlies on not just one of their planets but two!

This is the tale that a contingent of MJ12/psion or whatever name they go by now-
adays is spinning. What they are saying is that the secret government has made a
deal to bring this group here in exchange for technology (big surprise) and another
planet (or planets) where the human race is said to be given rights to terraform
and move their own to in the event our Earth cannot sustain us... or them.

They are planning to give them, pause for effect, Africa! A whole continent. And
governments worldwide know this and have agreed. I don't think that will go over
well with the current inhabitants. Yes I know it sounds just like the movie District 9
and The Event.

In fact, I ran this by one of my whistleblowers and he agreed this has been in the
works for some time. Only, these supposed humanoid beings aren't really
humanoid... They are of course reptilian and even a form of 'praying mantis'
parading as human so as not to upset the locals.And I am being told the ghost
cities in Angola being built by the Chinese are supposed to be built to house
their "caretakers" -- that is, the Earth humans who will mind the place.
While, I am at it this same Duff-MJ12 contingent is claiming the recent asteroid
over Russia was a craft full of yet another group of 12-14 inch beings with an extra
apendage... in addition to 2 arms and 2 legs... And they are supposedly
not 'friendlies"....

Are they simply trotting this out to amaze and confuse? Are their elements of truth
mixed with disinfo?... Yes probably. My whistleblower apparently communicated
this scenario 3 years ago to a certain person (not me). ie. From what I have heard,
diabolical plans for the African continent by the secret government have long been
hinted at but no scenario such as the one mentioned on the Mike Harris show on
Rense with Gordon Duff was forthcoming...

Given scenarios such as these, it's no wonder they needed a younger Naz/Jesuiti in
the office of Pope.

Some think this Pope is planning to bring the worlds together and that he is
working for the good of humanity. Time will tell. [SNIP]

[mojo]

Is Gordon the individual that reported on a UFO battle off the California coast a while back? What ever happened, did he recant the story? Wondering how much can we trust the source?

[Cidersomerset]

The article talked about in extended interview.......
they touch on several other subjects in the vid.



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Was JFK killed because of his interest in aliens? Secret memo shows president
demanded UFO files 10 days before death

By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 08:21, 19 April 2011

An uncovered letter written by John F Kennedy to the head of the CIA shows that
the president demanded to be shown highly confidential documents about UFOs 10
days before his assassination.The secret memo is one of two letters written by JFK
asking for information about the paranormal on November 12 1963, which have
been released by the CIA for the first time.

Author William Lester said the CIA released the documents to him under the
Freedom of Information Act after he made a request while researching his new
book 'A Celebration of Freedom: JFK and the New Frontier.'

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Assassination: Was JFK shot to stop him discovering the truth about UFOs?
The president’s interest in UFOs shortly before his death is likely to fuel conspiracy
theories about his assassination, according to AOL News.Alien researchers say the
latest documents, released to Mr Lester by the CIA, add weight to the suggestion
that the president could have been shot to stop him discovering the truth about
UFOs.
More...
Star Wars is real: Life could thrive on plants like Tatooine with two suns, scientists
claimWhat a headache: Astronauts find paracetamol doesn't work in space
Body of 'dead alien' is found in frozen wastes of Siberia after claims of UFO hurtling
to Earth... but is it an elaborate hoax?


In one of the secret documents released under the Freedom of Information Act, JFK
writes to the director asking for the UFO files.

Enlarge Released: Letter from JFK to CIA director asking for access to UFO files,
which has been released to an author under the Freedom of Information Act
Released: Letter from JFK to CIA director asking for access to UFO files, which has
been released to an author under the Freedom of Information Act

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In the second memo, sent to the NASA administrator, the president expresses a
desire for cooperation with the former Soviet Union on mutual outer space activities.
The previously classified documents were released under the Freedom of
Information Act to teacher William Lester as part of research for a new book about
JFK.He said that JFK’s interest in UFOs could have been fuelled by concerns about
relations with the former Soviet Union.



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Beam me up: Days before he was killed, JFK wrote to the CIA demanding access to
their files about UFOs

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Enlarge Unclassified: A second memo written by JFK on November 12 1963, 10
days before his assassination, which has been released by the CIA
Unclassified: A second memo written by JFK on November 12 1963, 10 days before
his assassination, which has been released by the CIA

‘One of his concerns was that a lot of these UFOs were being seen over the Soviet
Union and he was very concerned that the Soviets might misinterpret these UFOs
as U.S. aggression, believing that it was some of our technology,’ Mr Lester told
AOL News.


‘I think this is one of the reasons why he wanted to get his hands on this
information and get it away from the jurisdiction of NASA so he could say to the
Soviets, “Look, that's not us, we're not doing it, we're not being provocative. “.’
But conspiracy theorists said the documents add interest to a disputed file,
nicknamed the ‘burned memo’, which a UFO investigator claims he received in the
1990s.The document, which has scorch marks, is claimed to have been posted to
UFO hunter Timothy Cooper in 1999 by an unknown CIA leak, but has never been
verified.

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Disputed: In the 'burned memo' the CIA director allegedly wrote: 'Lancer [JFK] has
made some inquiries regarding our activities, which we cannot allow'
In a note sent with the document, the apparent leaker said he worked for CIA
between 1960 and 1974 and pulled the memo from a fire when the agency was
burning some of its most sensitive files.The undated memo contains a reference
to ‘Lancer’, which was JFK's Secret Service code name.On the first page, the
director of Central Intelligence wrote: ‘As you must know, Lancer has made some
inquiries regarding our activities, which we cannot allow.

‘Please submit your views no later than October. Your action to this matter is
critical to the continuance of the group.’

The current owner of the ‘burned memo’, who bought it from Timothy Cooper in
2001 told AOL News that it shows that when JFK asked questions about UFOs that
the CIA ‘bumped him off’.

UFO investigator Robert Wood said he has tested the paper it was printed on, the
ink age, watermarks, font types and other markings.He said: ‘I hired a forensics
company to check the age of the ink and check several other things that you can
date, using the same techniques you’d use in a court of law.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378284/Secret-memo-shows-JFK-demanded-UFO-files-10-days-assassination.html#ixzz2Z7VcSIYt
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[Calz]

Wondering how much can we trust the source?

He does seem to have some deep sources and has brought out (imho) some good material.

Having said that there seems to be *some* disinformation laced in (which *perhaps* is deliberate to keeping people alive ... but I no "proof" of any of this).

FWIW


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most of his material (as well as others on the site) are more geo-political/military/intel sort of posts than down the rabbit hole "off-world" such as this.

... and it has been remarkable in many circumstances.

[grannyfranny100]

Some sources claim that Gordon Duff tells us false info as well as true info. Also past reports from numerous sources i.e. Iron Mt. claim the last effort to keep us under control is to fill us with fear of aliens and alien attack. Sounds as if the powers are giving up on all their failed previous schemes and are moving on to their last plan - the fear of aliens. This tells me that we are making progress; they are running out of ideas, schemes and money.

So if you want to be scared out of your mind, watch a sci fi movie or TV program; otherwise, stay your course for spiritual awareness and growth.

[Sunny-side-up]

Strange had just read through your Post here and I wen't out side to have a look at the sky when I, hi up around 3-4 thousand feet, slowly sawing on the hot air thermals where two massive birds. I've seen Golden eagles and hawks but these must have been the size of a small light aircraft. I had my binoculars onto them and could see a beak end and a tail end, they looked like birds ok, but the size?..I've read and seen articals of the 'Thunder Bird' what I saw fell into that category!

Or maybe just a pair of Nephilim surveying their new plot of earth ha!

Time 16:50 Mortlake South London, traveling North/North West...

[GoodETxSG]

hello,
many of you have seen my threads on the "secret space programs" and the "break away civilizations" that exist along with the et/ed visitors/watchers that frequent our busy little solar system. I have also written extensively on the "secret space program" and the wars etc... So, some of you are not shocked to see me post here. I posted on multiple space programs and multiple break away civilizations for a reason...
I say civilizations because as i understand it there have been several human (for the most part.) earth civilizations that have risen and fallen who have had their own "break away civilizations" that have moved below ground, further out into our solar system and beyond thousands of years ago that still play a part in what goes on "at home".

The info in gordon duff's interview and article posted on this new thread shocked me. The information if fairly untainted and jives extremely well with my "sources" as well as to the extent i had involvement that i am able to recall, no "total recall" yet.

Thread: Gordon duff discloses reality of ufo's & aliens // secret space war iv: Terra forming
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61174-gordon-duff-discloses-reality-of-ufo-s-aliens-secret-space-war-iv-terra...

vt: Secret space war iv: Terra forming: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/14/secret-space-war-iv-terra-forming/

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we all know that there is a great awakening going on. We are seeing all of these scandals and have been waiting very impatiently for the "cabal" or slave masters to be exposed and arrested... And for disclosure to occur. I believe those that refuse to wake up do not want to see the truth of their slavery. As long as there is gas in their tank and cable on their tv they are cool.

We are reaching critical mass though where that choice will not be there and they will be forced to confront that truth. They will be pissed at the truth and even more so at who delivers them that truth. I have started these 4 threads using speculation and some misdirection to protect sources. The fact is that there is massive war going on... Wars in the stars, wars over our minds, wars over economic systems, wars over access to technologies and the biggest war to keep you out of the war!

U.s. Has 8 cigar shaped ufos in space fleet used for “solar warden,” program to protect solar system - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56532-u.s.-has-8-cigar-shaped-ufos-in-space-fleet-used-for---solar-warden----program-to-protect-solar-system

advanced breakaway civilizations, ets/eds, sol system wars & awakening from our slavery - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60111-advanced-breakaway-civilizations-ets-eds-sol-system-wars-awakening-from-our-slavery

speculating: Global meteors, space based weapons & current struggle for financial systems related? - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-speculating-global-meteors-space-based-weapons-current-struggle-for-financial-systems-related

wassup in russia? Pm talk of aliens, financial fraud & alien documentaries, sorcha faal dis-info, meteors... - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56422-wassup-in-russia-pm-talk-of-aliens-financial-fraud-alien-documentaries-sorcha-faal-dis-info-meteors...




:confused: J. P. Farrell, i am not that familiar with his work on this topic. There is a lot of info to go through. I thought i would post the link and go through it as i have time and allow you too and post what you think... Look forward to it.

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http://www.ufodigest.com/article/hidden-breakaway-empire-0612

The Hidden Breakaway Empire

By Steve Erdmann - 1 day 22 hours ago

“Our common defense against these predatory ET types is limited but growing”, says Ed Komarek, speaking about his research on extraterrestrials in UFO Exploiters and the New World Disorder, “Air Forces around the world in the 1950s were estimated to be losing an aircraft a day trying to intercept UFOs, and I suspect that this prompted Five Star General MacArthur, who built extensive UFO/ET files in the 1940’s, to state in 1955 that, ‘the next war will be interplanetary war. The nations must someday make a common front against attacks by people from other planets.’ Fortunately, this dire prediction has not yet come to pass.”

(UFOs, Exopolitics and the New World Disorder, Ed Komarek. Shoestring Publishing, 3301 Highway 93 South, Cairo, Georgia. 39828. edkomarek@yahoo.com,
Exopolitics. Blogspot.com/2012, 372 pages. $16.00.)

http://www.ufodigest.com/sites/default/files/styles/image200/public/field/image/UFO%27s_Exopolitics_an_Cover_for_Kindle.jpg?itok=idzraIDU

For more information or to order Ed's book simply click on the title: UFO's Exopolitics and the New World Disorder

HIGHLY AUTOCRATIC

Komarek hypothesizes that two races of ETs are involved: the Greys and a “degenerate faction” of Sitchen’s Anunnaki called “fallen angels”. He summarizes that the “Global Elite” is already attached and this “highly autocratic earth-human society” and are nefariously directing affairs.
The New World Disorder can hide behind questionable images such as faked radar returns, and as elaborate as “Reptilian” appearances to chameleon “amphibian” Aquatic gods. Such highly bizarre claims purportedly avail themselves to lie-detector tests (Page 46).

QUESTIONS

There are a lot of questions an objective investigator will ask, such as: What happened to the “pencil slate” the UFO witness kept from a 1955 UFO episode (Page 71)? How can the governments of the world sustain a Secret Space Fleet with no possibility of an average citizen breaking The Iron Curtain of Secrecy (Page 121)? It is not surprising that Komarek did not find much skepticism on the Internet about Luca Scantamburlo’s crashed spaceship and aliens on the moon, because the vast Internet audience is bent on “believing”, not skepticism (Page 123). When you enter Komarek’s world, things always seem logical, but accompanying “hard-boiled” facts do not necessarily follow.

MISSING PLANES

By the end of the 1950s, says the author, numerous “bases” had been established for liaisons with ETs. Nellis AFB houses Nordic, Grey and Tall-White ETs. “Only MJ 12 knew the whole story,” says Komarek. The Germans were privy to the first UFO crashes in 1936. Komarek quotes General Benjamin Chidlaw, who says in 1953: “We have stacks of reports of flying saucers. We take them very seriously, when you consider we have lost many men and planes trying to intercept them!”
Former Air Force Intelligence Officer Leonard Stringfeld is told that they were losing about a plane a day from UFO encounters (Page 80).

TOYS AND MOLECULAR COHESION

The late Dr. Olavo T. Fontes from Brazil reported in a February 27, 1958 letter that American Intelligence officials spoke with him and told him that worldly governments “have absolute proof” of alien crafts, and that six known crashes had taken place with “little men” of about 46-inches. Propulsion was “rotating and oscillating high voltage electro-magnetic fields”. Fontes was told that UFOnauts could be very hostile and tend to treat us as “toys” (Page 83). They have an “ultrasonic beam” that disrupts the molecular cohesion of objects and can freely interfere with all kinds of apparatus.

ULTIMATE CONTROL

The goal of perturbing UFOnauts, says Fontes, is control, first with “friendly interference”, but followed by total war and police action, if you fail to cooperate; even the President of the U.S “is not informed of the whole truth” (Page 84). Uncontrolled panic could very well ensue.

To control the situation, governments have resorted to strict censorship and top secret orders for fear of pandemic panic and chaos. Ridicule, death and imprisonment are sometimes used. He quotes a high-ranking military official: “We are not interested in the so-called ‘Inalienable Rights’ of the people. Right or wrong we – the military – are going to stop us.” (Page 85).

ARTILLARY SHELLS VAPORIZED

Ed Komarek presents case after case of UFO lore that he feels the adequate testimony to bolster these facts, such as the Gene Ruegg recording of a phantom jet being abducted in July, 1968 (Pages 86-88).

Komarek quotes from UFO Crash at Aztec about Baron Nicholas E. Von Poppen’s visit to Los Alamos in November, 1942 to see a retrieved ET craft with 5-foot creatures: “…white…very pale skin, as if they had come from a cold world with little air.” (Page 90).

The physicist Dr. Hans Larson Loberg’s crashed Norwegian UFO was constructed of material that “resisted 15,000-fahrenheit without melting.”
Similar to other reported UFO incidents, competent artillery shells fired at a May 23-24, 1974 UFO at the Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany, “…(were) as if the shells were being absorbed or being vaporized at the explosion by some sort of force field.” There was no radar return on the launch control console. A Chapparral Antiaircraft Missile was launched and exploded on the UFO. The UFO descended to the valley floor.

NEVER TO TALK

This incident is important because of the variety of military personnel involved as well as the heavy military five-power, the unknown “pod” attached to the C141 aircraft, and lastly the mysterious disembarking “M-16-carrying crew” the pilot of the C141 left at the Wright Patterson Air Force base. Major Mike Andrews was told that this affair was “a highly classified mission and they were never to talk about it to anyone.” (Pages 98-104).

HUMAN MUTILATION

Chapter Two gets into some rather gruesome and horrifying tales of “human mutilation” by UFOnauts. We’ve heard the suspicions about cattle mutilations, but to have a human mutilation described in detail could be a little worrisome for most readers. This allegedly happened at the White Sands Missile Test Range in New Mexico in March, 1956. The author also gives us the tale of an abduction of a 13-year-old-boy in October, 1953.

A Three Stat General told investigator Timothy Beckley in July, 1989: “The aliens take about 2,200 children a year from the United States and other countries.
The vision that comes to Erdmann’s mind when reading this allegation is his personal after-midnight UFO encounter in 1959 or 1960 as he walked home following a late movie: the UFO briefly hovered, glowing above and near him, changed its shape and shot upwards. He wonders, at times, what if…..?

BREAKAWAY CIVILIZATION

“I am trying to provide the reader with evidence that supports the idea that much of this Breakaway Civilization’s advanced technology and its Super-Secret Space Program,” says Kotare, “is based upon reverse engineering extraterrestrial technologies.”

Much of this is done through Technology Transfer Programs (TTPs) negotiated between ET groups and human governments. Komarek refers to this alliance as the Alien Resource Cartel. “…a very important part of the overall globalist’s network of criminal enterprises.” Bill Hose, Aerospace Engineer, commented: “The organization is extremely hierarchal, especially given the needs of compartmentalization. A worker reports only to his immediate supervisor, and direct contacts with members of other departments and higher management are rare.” (Pages 114-115).

SECRET SPACE PROGRAM

Komarek speaks of a Secret Space Program based on electromagnetic and electrogravitic-exotic-technologies; corporations that are major players in the Military-Industrial-Complex. He recited the legend: “Many researchers believe that this Secret Space Program and Space Fleet are capable of not only rapid travel about our solar system with bases on the moon and mars, but deep-space-capable as well, as was indicated by Ben Rich.”

Ben Rich supposedly broached remarks in response to how UFOs fly, he remarked: “How does ESP work?” Lockheed Skunk works Engineer USAF and CIA Contractor Don Phillips added: “The knowledge I have of these technologies came from the craft we captured here. I didn’t see the craft, nor did I see the bodies, but I certainly knew some of the people that did. There was no question that there were beings from outside the planet.”

SWORN AN OATH

Solar Warden, says Komarek, is the Code Word for our Hidden Space Fleet. “We have visited all the planets in our solar system, at a distance of course,” says Open Minds Forum, “except mercury….these ships contain personnel from many countries and have sworn an oath to the World Government also, known as the Bilderbergers: the technology came from back-engineering alien-disc wreckage and at times with alien assistance.” (Page 120).

“All this material shows that NASA and the military never really ended manned explorations as claimed,” Says Komarek, “but continued covert activities in space and on other planetary bodies.”

A Luca Scantamborlo’s story about the triangular ET craft, a mother ship, and an alien base on the backside of the moon is what can be described as a ‘jaw-buster’, so-to-speak, but ‘proving’ it will be a ‘brain-buster’, however. This mission allegedly took place in 1976, consisting of three American astronauts, who trained four-years for the retrieval mission. If anything, at present, it is just a questionable claim looking for a ‘home’ called proof.

MIND CONTROL DEBRIEFING

An episode is related about soldiers in 1971, Thailand who interacted with as many as 21 humanoid creatures near their craft and take off. During the customary “debriefing” the soldiers were put through “a combination of drugs and hypnosis” as a means to distort, substitute and rearrange their memories of their UFO case. A question arises: do governments use this ‘method’ of Mind Control regularly?

THE FIRM

Peter A. Bostrom learns from the Special Forces Team that the Super-Secret organization was referred to as “The Firm” (Page 138). “Whatever they did, it altered our memories – affected it with permanence,” says the officer, now a Lieutenant Colonel, “but there is no such thing as a total block. Those things come in surges.”

Komarek believes the Breakaway Society is on verge of Technical Singularity, including such things as rewriting of our genome and superpowers from copying ET contact, “…global rulers are allowing scientific and technological knowledge from extraterrestrial contact to covertly leak out into the public domain for own benefit…(but not) weaken their hold on power”.

CORPORATE CARTEL

Komarek renders a classical hierarchical belief that I’ve exposed before, as seen in all sentient beings (Page 19): “The slave master only allows the slave knowledge to do his or her job and no more, because to know more would be to invite rebellion. This master-slave concept of need to know has been incorporated into modern-day national security Top Secret classification systems….” The author reminds us that this “national military and business interest” was called by Dwight D. Eisenhower as the Military Industrial Complex, or also called the Corporate Cartel, the Alien Resource Cartel, and the Special Access Programs (SAPs).

Richard reveals that the center of the complex was “….not even DOP personnel, but rather private contractors, mainly attorneys.” (Page 174). He declares that ‘American multiple-national-corporation’, or also called the “Corporate Cartel,” also called The Alien Resource Cartel, “InterEuropean Companies” from Britain, Canada, and France, Germany and Australia.

Komarek mentions Baron Jesco Von Putthamer, a high ranking Nazi official that came to America through Operation Paperclip, a Nazi operation with close ties to Bush and Ford families. Baron Von Putthamer entered America in 1968 and worked at many major aerospace corporations, showing Cartel influence.
(Continued expose’ of the monstrous Alternate Civilization that controls the Globe is continued in Part II) Continues June 16, 2013!

david wilcock and others are covering the financial war, other the political and spying manipulation of your minds war... This is about the space war and the various earth based and non earth based technologies being used above, within our atmosphere and deep below our feet.

keep following my threads and other people's threads on these topics and the other topics that make up the mosaic of the big war. It is going on weather you want to wake up, weather you want to believe it or not!

[ghostrider]

two things were stated in ET contact with Edward Albert Meier, two MAIN REASONS, the correct spiritual teaching of creation and it's laws and recomendations , and second a conflict with a barbaric space traveling race will soon be un-avoidable ... they came to give a warning, work out your differences and work together , your gonna need each other to defeat these barbaric space travelers ...

[ThePythonicCow]

Is Gordon the individual that reported on a UFO battle off the California coast a while back? What ever happened, did he recant the story? Wondering how much can we trust the source?
As I posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59653-Secret-Space-War-II-Preston-James-of-Veterans-Today&p=681819&viewfull=1#post681819), Gordon Duff himself says that about 40% of what he says is at least partially false:
About 30% of what’s on Veterans Today is patently false. About 40% of what I write is at least purposely partially false, because if I didn’t write false information, I wouldn’t be alive.

[ThePythonicCow]

J. P. Farrell, i am not that familiar with his work on this topic. There is a lot of info to go through.
Yes, Joseph P. Farrell's work is a lot to go through. I swear he writes faster than I can read.

I agree with Carmody (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60111-Advanced-Breakaway-Civilizations-ETs-EDs-SOL-System-Wars-awakening-from-our-slavery&p=688328&viewfull=1#post688328)) that Farrell's work is essential reading for these topics.

Perhaps Farrell has a different tactic for staying alive. Whereas Duff writes 40% disinfo (see my previous post just above), Farrell writes so damn much that few are able to make the effort to absorb it.

[Calz]

It's been awhile now but let us not forget Bill's Camelot interview with Farrell:

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/videos-interviews/item/joseph-farrell?category_id=2


http://projectavalon.net/joseph_farrell_cover.jpg

[Gardener]

Joseph Farrell the voice of reason and compassion. Awesome.

[GoodETxSG]

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[Cidersomerset]

Thanks GoodeTXSG interresting interview..........Bob Nevritt has said several times
on his shows that China has been given help from Lemurians since the 1990's. I'm
not sure if they are ET's or part of the ancient Lemurians that have always been
here.

Bob has mentioned them several times in part of discussions but not enough to
make a thread.

[Carmody]

A bit of rumination on facts and speculated facts and considerations:

-Apparently, according to a recent Article on Veteran's Today, the Americans and the Chinese are trying to eject a group of aliens who have 'claimed' a larger part of earth's oceans. specifically the pacific.

These joint operations are apparently taking place off the coast of California, out into the Pacific, straight out from approximately that shoreline (further out).

Apparently the area is so crowded with ships that shipping companies and the like are getting very nervous about it's use. (trying to negotiate between all the naval and support ships)

Apparently the aliens refuse to leave.

Apparently, they showed up 'a while back', I've no idea when.

Now, the higher level the organism, humans, etc, the more sensitive it is to radiation.

Now, how do you 'smoke out' a group of aliens who Can and Do operate on the ocean bottom,and refuse to leave?

Well, one way is to get levels of radiation into the water, and slowly escalate the levels. Like smoking out bees in a hive. You can't do it all at once, you have to slowly escalate the smoke level to the point you want to get to. To avoid killing the bees, ruining the hive - and to not kill or damage yourself.

After all, from our understanding of biology....an advanced species is likely to be very intolerant of radiation.

In that context, look at Fukushima, again. It could even be made to look like an accident....


Or..to be used as a cover for having radiation/nuke bombed the bottom of the ocean out from California.

To fight such a war, all while maintaining overall human ignorance of the issue.

(add in all the mammalian/cetatean and fish death in this area from 'new technology extreme sonar tests')

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Not saying I'm right, but it might fit within the scenario's potential considerations. Possible... not specifically plausible.

[ulli]

A bit of rumination on facts and specualted facts and considerations:

-Apparently, according to a recent Article on Veteran's Today, the Americans and the Chinese are trying to eject a group of aliens who have 'claimed' a larger part of earth's oceans. specifically the pacific.

These joint operations are apparently taking place off the coast of California, out into the Pacific, straight out from approximately that shoreline (further out).

Apparently the area is so crowded with ships that shipping companies and the like are getting very nervous about it's use. (trying to negotiate between all the naval and support ships)

Apparently the aliens refuse to leave.

Apparently, they showed up 'a while back', I've no idea when.

Now, the higher level the organism, humans, etc, the more sensitive it is to radiation.

Now, how do you 'smoke out' a group of aliens who Can and Do operate on the ocean bottom,and refuse to leave?

Well, one way is to get levels of radiation into the water, and slowly escalate the levels. Like smoking out bees in a hive. You can't do it all at once, you have to slowly escalate the smoke level to the point you want to get to. To avoid killing the bees, ruining the hive - and to not kill or damage yourself.

After all, from our understanding of biology....an advanced species is likely to be very intolerant of radiation.

In that context, look at Fukushima, again. It could even be made to look like an accident....
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Not saying I'm right, but it might fit within the scenario's potential considerations. Possible... not specifically plausible.

Excellent connecting of dots.
I heard a guy say that when they were doing all those nuclear tests right after WW2, in the South Pacific atolls, how the witnesses saw UFOS going up in those explosions, as if there were underwater nests.

The thing is that I believed that story, because a friend of mine who used to own an international shipping company, and had a sailing yacht, one night while on his boat the entire ocean lit up from below, and a UFO shot out of the water right in front of him.
And a voice said to him inside his head, that they lived there and had been there since long before humans.
And Gordon Duff, hmmm...to me he sounds credible.

[Cidersomerset]

Just for interest on Bobs recent shows which are now on a Saturday night/sunday
Am which started three weeks ago the first lasting 10hrs, 2nd 11hrs & this weekend
12hrs ( which is why I'm behind catching up from the archives after work ..LOL)
They have been covering Love. Which is a magnetic forcefield, and they have
started going thru the Emerald Tablets. Tablet one last week and Two yesterday ,
plus hundreds of other subjects. Its to dispersed to put on a post.

http://achieveradio.com/payday/

Ed Long at Information Farm is collecting many of them into individual
subjects.Much of the recordings from the past few months have come from
personnel sessions with Ion and are excellent, though hard to follow at times if you
are not used to or tuned in with JW's southern Georgia accent.

After saying all that, all I really wanted to say is Bob said yesterday in answer to a
question that China has been in touch with an ET race since aprox 1995, which is
helping them. Whether this is true or not , I don't know ? I'l throw it into the mix.