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Nickolai
18th July 2013, 18:16
Actually, when I was in the early teens Jimmy was the US president. So long ago.
I am actually interested in what our american friends think about this man.

Here is the article from the rt.com

‘America has no functioning democracy’ – Jimmy Carter on NSA

Former US President Jimmy Carter lambasted US intelligence methods as undemocratic and described Edward Snowden’s NSA leak as “beneficial” for the country.

Carter lashed out at the US political system when the issue of the previously top-secret NSA surveillance program was touched upon at the Atlantic Bridge meeting on Tuesday in Atlanta, Georgia.

"America has no functioning democracy at this moment," Carter said, according to Der Spiegel.

He also believes the spying-scandal is undermining democracy around the world, as people become increasingly suspicious of US internet platforms, such as Google and Facebook. While such mediums have normally been associated with freedom of speech and have recently become a major driving force behind emerging democratic movements, fallout from the NSA spying scandal has dented their credibility.

It’s not the first time Carter has criticized US intelligence policies. In a previous interview with
CNN, he said the NSA leaks signified that “the invasion of human rights and American privacy has gone too far." He added that although Snowden violated US law, he may have ultimately done good for the country.

"I think that the secrecy that has been surrounding this invasion of privacy has been excessive, so I think that the bringing of it to the public notice has probably been, in the long term, beneficial."

Jimmy Carter was President of the United States from 1977 to 1981. After leaving office, he founded the Carter Center, an NGO advocating human rights. The ex-president’s human rights credentials won him Nobel Peace Prize in 2002.

Carter has frequently criticized his successors in the White House. Last year, he condemned the Obama administration for the use of drone attacks in his article "A Cruel and Unusual Record" published in the New York Times.

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Nickolai

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Here is some more from June, 25, 2013

‘US anti-terrorism policy violates human rights’ – Jimmy Carter

Former US president Jimmy Carter has criticized America’s actions against terrorism, saying that drones attacks and targeted assassination of suspicious people are undermining America’s “role as the global champion of human rights.”

In his critical article "A Cruel and Unusual Record" published in the New York Times, Jimmy Carter said that with all the revolutions sweeping around the world, America should “make the world safer.” Instead, however, “America’s violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends,” he argues.

US’s government counterterrorism policies, Carter says, are now clearly violating at least 10 of the 30 articles written in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

“Revelations that top officials are targeting people to be assassinated abroad, including American citizens, are only the most recent, disturbing proof of how far our nation’s violation of human rights has extended,” Carter writes.

These violations of human rights began after the terrorist attack of 9/11. Having been "sanctioned and escalated by bipartisan executive and legislative actions,” Carter bemoaned a “lack of dissent from the general public".

"As a result, our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues," the 39th president wrote.

Carter says that “death of innocent women and children” within drone attacks on those who are said to be “enemy terrorists” are accepted “as inevitable”. However, that is something that “would have been unthinkable in previous times”.

“After more than 30 airstrikes on civilian homes in Afghanistan this year, President Hamid Karzai has demanded that such attacks end, but the practice continues in areas of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen that are not in any war zone,” writes Carter.

He adds that it is unknown “how many hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed” in attacks that have all been “approved by the highest authorities in Washington.”

“Top intelligence and military officials, as well as rights defenders in targeted areas, affirm that the great escalation in drone attacks has turned aggrieved families toward terrorist organizations, aroused civilian populations against us and permitted repressive governments to cite such actions to justify their own despotic behavior,” writes Carter.

Carter’s critical article comes less than a week after the UN’s report on the use of drone strikes by the US to combat terrorism.

On June, 21, UN rapporteur, Christof Heyns, said that the US needs to be held legally accountable for the use of armed drones.

He requested that the Obama administration publish statistics on the number of civilian deaths caused by strikes on suspected terror leaders in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen.

Heyns underlined the fact that recent US drone strikes threatened the rule of international law in that many “targeted killings take place far from areas where it's recognized as being an armed conflict."

Speaking about human rights, Carter also mentioned that recent laws allow “unprecedented violations of our rights to privacy through warrantless wiretapping and government mining of our electronic communications”.

Jimmy Carter has called for Washington to “reverse course and regain moral leadership".

Nickolai

Carmody
19th July 2013, 00:59
http://ll-media.extratv.com/archive/images/news/0107presidents.jpg

Multiple pictures were taken that day.

Note that Jimmy Carter is NOT 'with' them.

He stands just slightly apart.

These are people who are ridiculously well versed with body language and what to do in a photo shoot. I don't think that this was accidental.

There was many photos taken that day, in those minutes when they stood there. IIRC, in all of them, Jimmy never failed to stand apart from them.

ulli
19th July 2013, 01:05
It was on imgur too, I just saw it this very minute.

http://i.imgur.com/J9Zgd84.jpg

One comment...Nor does America have a functioning media

johnf
19th July 2013, 01:16
Back in the early nineties, I heard a story about how someone left a copy of A Course in Miracles
on a table somewhere in the white house. You don't get into the presidents club without being with the program.
But over time he seems to have taken a different direction.

jf

T Smith
19th July 2013, 03:28
Jimmy Carter is an interesting, somewhat polarizing public figure. One one hand, he was a populist, but on the other hand, a Rockefeller minion. I believe the Trilateral Commission was ushered in under his watch, and he was also a member of the CFR and TC. On the other hand Carter was instrumental in the implementation of the FOIA... a huge battle victory for disclosure, truth, and for us serfs in general...

I'm not an expert on Carter by any stretch -- these are just general observations. The most interesting tidbit about Carter that comes to mind, for me, was discussed in Dolan's book, UFOs and the National Security State. Dolan outlines how Carter was a HUGE proponent for disclosure (experiencing a UFO sighting personally prior to his public career) and even ran on the platform to disclose any government secrets about UFOs if elected President. But then... the huge 180 once in office. Hmmm... Dolan describes a scene in his book where Carter was briefed right at his desk in the White House about "alien presence" here on Earth in a cryptic meeting with a MJ-12 briefing officer with the highest clearance. Whatever was said to Carter (about which we can only speculate) he put his head down in his hands a wept right at his desk in the Oval office. From that moment on, there was no more talk about disclosure from the Carter administration, and he even publicly denounced any notion of a coverup as absurd. This is an extremely interesting set of events, to say the least.

Carmody
19th July 2013, 14:23
Presidents are figureheads, and do the bidding of others. They may have some power to sway and move things, but only within some basic defined paths. Paths and barriers on that path, that are defined by the people whom they work for, in the given situation.

Jimmy is simply doing what he thinks he can get away with, is my guess.

IMO, It's probably been a good 100 years or more, since the USA has seen a president doing anything for the good of the citizens as an act that stands in purity. Meaning, stands as an act in purity, that was not struck down and did not cost them their lives or close to it.

The degradation of the offices of the federal government of the USA is nearly complete.

Any degenerate and sociopath that can enter that system, and desires to, and can survive there, probably has.

They are essentially... all in one spot, and showing their hand.

As the sociopath and the brigand stands at the trough and feeds, openly, the next one comes along and is even more relaxed and more brazen, more violent and more demanding. It gets worse and worse, as each generation enters the system. More openly animalistic and blood sucking.

Now, they are nearing the point where the fascism is turning extremely violent, paranoid, and open. The sense of entitlement has become ingrained and extreme, due to the environment that the latest and greatest sociopaths in DC -have entered.

This was inevitable. and is inevitable in any system where the public is not sociopaths and do not pay extreme attention at all times, for as long as they live and breathe.

Since it is the natural wiring and desire for sociopaths to fool and cheat the common man, as a way of being and living, this situation is almost inevitable in any system of government that has been around for a certain number of years. The decay caused by the feeding of sociopaths.

If you want democracy and fairness....Either you stay awake for your entire life and beat the sociopaths out of the system, 24/7, forever, or you eliminate their genetics at the most basic/fundamental level.

Those are your options. Grow up.

Carmody
20th July 2013, 18:28
Concerning Snowden and of course, incidentally, Jimmy carter.

CNN being burned down on their own website. check the comments section.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/19/opinion/hayden-snowden-impact/

(Understand that when you click the link to this story, you will be jumping directly from Avalon to CNN's website, and this will be recorded by CNN)

or, use your own searching capacities to search for this story:

"Ex-CIA chief: What Edward Snowden did"

ThePythonicCow
20th July 2013, 19:54
(Understand that when you click the link to this story, you will be jumping directly from Avalon to CNN's website, and this will be recorded by CNN)
If one copies and pastes the CNN link into the address bar of one's browser and goes to their site that way, rather than directly clicking on the provided link, then one will also keep CNN from seeing that the source of the link to their site was Avalon.

If an Avalon poster wants to encourage just such behaviour, they can provide the link as plain text rather than an active link. This would look like http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/19/opinion/hayden-snowden-impact/ (using bold to make it easier for the reader to see what must be copied and pasted.)

(Aside: I presume Carmody is well aware of what I just posted here, and I suspect most readers aren't interested in these details, so anyone should feel entirely free to skip right past this post.)

bogeyman
20th July 2013, 20:03
With such a large military structure civilian control is going to be difficult, and a form of dictatorship is going to rise its head. With huge concentrations of power lying in the hands of the few they become governments to themselves.

write4change
21st July 2013, 02:49
the story I was told at the time about Carter's pursuit of UFOs still sounds more accurate than the one above. At least to me. When Carter first became president Bush I was still director of the CIA, a fact that was toned down, from then on. In the Oval office when Carter personally questioned him about the UFO situation, Bush told him the files were classified according to a need to know and that he, Carter, did not need to know and that it was in the interest of national security that he not know.

Bush I made a lot of enemies of people who climbed their way up the ladder of success rather than inherited the first rungs. Ross Perot was the other one who knew first hand what Bush had to do with sabotaging Carter's rescue attempt of the Iranian hostages. Remember he spent millions getting his own people out and they paid big time for some real high class intel. It was because of this encounter that Perot saw what he feared with the NWO and ran against Bush I. Everything and every chart Perot put up came to pass but especially the sucking sound of NAFTA and its devastation of rural Texas small manufacturing.

When Perot with drew he said it was because Bush threatened his daughter's wedding which of course sounded ridiculous at the time. But if you look at Perot's actions he spent 30 days acquiring big time security and securing everything---business, homes, plants, etc. Today if he said Bush threatened him and his family personally you would not have near as hard a time believing it.

Today we are much more inclined to see a role of the CIA in the JFK assignation etc. We have heard this people say we own this country the rest of you just live here. Perot adopted as his theme song Patsy Cline's Crazy and he gave a 30 minute paid speech on national TV before the election saying he gets to go to his grave guilt free because he stood up and gave the country all alternative.

Texans voted for both Bushes as Texans even though they were never born, raised, nor educated in Texas and their base of operation remained Kenneport. The most successful propaganda machine ever is the Bushes in Texas convincing Texas the second go around with Bush II that Ann had suddenly become a lesbian in her old age and she was promoting gay women as women of power etc.
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risveglio
21st July 2013, 18:15
http://ll-media.extratv.com/archive/images/news/0107presidents.jpg

Multiple pictures were taken that day.

Note that Jimmy Carter is NOT 'with' them.

He stands just slightly apart.

These are people who are ridiculously well versed with body language and what to do in a photo shoot. I don't think that this was accidental.

There was many photos taken that day, in those minutes when they stood there. IIRC, in all of them, Jimmy never failed to stand apart from them.

Look at the way George W Bush is glaring at Obama, like the Emperor the first time he saw Vader in full form. GW must be so proud of his protege.

Flash
21st July 2013, 18:27
Me, it is GWB feet position that strikes me as strange. As if he was unstable on his feet, a bit like a little boy. Clinton has the pingouin position, heel tight together, hands in the back, a good puppet.

T Smith
22nd July 2013, 00:34
the story I was told at the time about Carter's pursuit of UFOs still sounds more accurate than the one above. At least to me. When Carter first became president Bush I was still director of the CIA, a fact that was toned down, from then on. In the Oval office when Carter personally questioned him about the UFO situation, Bush told him the files were classified according to a need to know and that he, Carter, did not need to know and that it was in the interest of national security that he not know.



As I understand the history, this is correct. But Carter didn't stop there. Bush made a subtle play to maintain his position as CIA director, under Carter, but Carter rejected the offer. After this Bush played the "on-a-need-to-know-basis" card. To quote Dolan: "....Bush told Carter that he would consider handing over the CIA's UFO material if Carter would retain Bush as Director of Central Intellighence. Otherwise, said Bush, Carter's best strategy for UFO material would be to approach the Science and Technology Committee of the House of Representatives..." (Dolan, pg 132-133).

Carter instead accepted Bush's resignation. This all happened in November of 1976. Then in June of 1977, Carter was briefed (according to Dolan's source), by the MJ-12 officer in the White House. Whatever what was said in that briefing, Carter came to some kind of epiphany, presumably about the alien presence on Earth or in human affairs, which brought him to tears.