The birth of Kate and William's baby today - a coincidence?

[Aurvandil]

Hello everyone!
Just saw that there has been no post about the news about Kate going into labour today. We have repeatedly heard that the date was set in the middle of July but the last week there has been very little reports at all.

Then today, the news came that she has been taken to hospital.

This is a very special day - full buck moon and of course the numerology of the day, July 22 - 11 x 2 and 7 - some favourite dates of some dark forces... And also the anniversary of the attacks in Norway 2011. Was the labour delayed until today to take advantage of the forces connected to this date?

Any thoughts?

[seeker/reader]

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[Kimberley]

Lots of baby's are born on full moons and new moons.

[Kano]

Lots of baby's are born on full moons and new moons.

Yes, but lots of babies aren't ET/ED "royalty". The dates of conception and birth are very intentional and are always congruent with some type of important astrological event.

[Earth Angel]

was fully expecting this.....

[sleepy]

[xxxxx xxxxx

[sleepy]

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[Aurvandil]

was fully expecting this.....

Yes, me too...

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Lots of baby's are born on full moons and new moons.

Yes, but lots of babies aren't ET/ED "royalty". The dates of conception and birth are very intentional and are always congruent with some type of important astrological event.

I have been watching this too. Conception would have happened at the time of "The Perfect Storm", also known as Hurricane Sandy. There was some discussion at that time of this storm being part of a ritual and the vortex it created. At the time of the storm I had the feeling , "something wicked comes this way" and not just the storm. They say Alexandra is a top pick for a girl name and coincidentally, Sandy is derived from that name.

Ah yes, I had forgotten this connection, very interesting. As you say - no coincidence... Must read the thread you recommend!

POST UPDATE
Apparently there was very heavy thunder this morning in western London. BBC (at Twitter BBC_Haveyoursay) was asking at 06:00:06 (!) for people telling them about they were affected by the thunder storm.

One Twitter-user (@ianramsdale) wrote early this morning:

"The first roll of #thunder, just before 6.30am, was the loudest, most piercing, roll I've ever heard. Like a jet, without the tail-off"

and also

"I've never heard a thunder storm quite like the one in north-west London now. More successful at waking me than my alarm/snooze combination."

Hmm...

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[DevilPigeon]

Damien's a nice name.

[CD7]

Lots of baby's are born on full moons and new moons.



And LOTS of babies are born everyday!....god help me through the next month when all im F'n gonna hear about is this ONE infant of all the babies who were born!! ITS just another HUMAN!!!!!

[sleepy]

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[ulli]

Had a quick lookie...
With the sun in Leo a strong individual with leadership potential.
Moon in opposition in Aquarius gives an egalitarian streak,
also humanitarian. Leo says, "I'm boss", Aquarius says "nobody is boss"...
The toughest part is Saturn making a right angle to both sun and moon...
burdened by responsibilities, strict upbringing, emotionless, also distant mother.
Then that Mars/Jupiter conjunction in Cancer...security and privacy conscious, but also impatient.

Checked the hour again and saw that the moon had not yet entered Aquarius...
but was still in Capricorn. This will be a cool and reserved Leo child.
although Sagittarius Ascendant could balance the frostiness a bit.

[Valle]

Sirus behind the Sun in Leo = Lion heart,
Maybe the odds for naming the boy Richard increased?

[Kiforall]

I think they've managed to re-incarnate Jimmy Saville.
I just hope they don't call it James.

[seeker/reader]

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[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Now where did I read about all these elites ansd royalty worshiping saturn :)?

[SilentFeathers]

This is weird too... :)


Celestial researcher Luis Vega has documented a special alignment of the planets that he calls the Star of David planetary alignment. It occurs when certain planets form a geometric configuration of “2 interlocking triangles that have 6 equidistant points within a 360 degree circle. One triangle is facing up & the other facing down in a 2-dimensional aspect ratio.”
Mr. Vega has identified that 12 of these alignments have occurred since 1990 and a 13th will begin on July 22, 2013, and another will not occur for at least 100 years. He has also identified that the last 12 have had significant troublous events occur after their appearance. I would highly recommend reading his research and viewing his diagrams at these links.
The Star of David alignments appear to have definite numerical patterns with corresponding symmetry to other Star of David alignments & with Total Lunar Eclipses. There are 13 Star of David planetary alignments that occur since 1990. The 13th Star of David alignment will be the ‘last one’ leading up to the Tetrad of 2014-2015. Like the Total Solar Eclipses on the 1st of Av that occurred in 2008, 2009 & 2010 that starting the ‘countdown’ to the 7 year Solar-Lunar pattern, it appears that this same principle or ‘astronomical law’ is also at work with the Star of David alignment pattern leading to some sort of a cosmic countdown.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix7/StarofDavidalignment.PNG
http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix7/StarofDavidalignment.PNG

[Violet]

was fully expecting this.....

Pun intended...:)

Who else was born that intentionally then, Kano?

[gripreaper]

And LOTS of babies are born everyday!....god help me through the next month when all im F'n gonna hear about is this ONE infant of all the babies who were born!! ITS just another HUMAN!!!!!

Another human? You sure about that?

[thunder24]

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/ many connections being made to many events, includeing his one....

very interesting

[Flash]

How come nobody said it yet, it is a boy.

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[SilentFeathers]

Another human? You sure about that?

Could be the anti-christ.....the reptilian version that is.

Either way, I'm sure we're in for another distraction fer a while.....

[ghostrider]

there were 2,013 other kids born in england on this day ... hmmmmmm they all share the new little princes birthday ... 2,013 - 2013 ... 7/22/13 7+22 =29 +1+3 = 33 a masonic number...

[witchy1]

Damien's a nice name. LOL

Odds on they dont call him Hitler

[The One]

I'm Alright Nooooooooow

I used to be a werewolf, but I'm alright nooooooooow! This is the video diary of a recovering werewolf.LMAO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gEZobJQcIjY#t=0s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEZobJQcIjY#t=0s

[Taurean]

Here's a nice little snippet from James Gilliland (b'day also 22 July )


Breaking News: July 22, 2013 will be a 100 year planetary alignment, The star of David is also called Shield of David and even Magen David, the famous hexagram star alignment.


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[BIG CAT]

Some people will look for something wrong in everything, yes there was a thunder storm this morning, that doesn't herald the arrival of ETs or satan, just some much needed rain and cooler air.
Me thinks some people need to leave their computer screens and get out more.

[thunder24]

me thinks.... "all hail the lizzie baby"...


Some people will look for something wrong in everything, yes there was a thunder storm this morning, that doesn't herald the arrival of ETs or satan, just some much needed rain and cooler air.
Me thinks some people need to leave their computer screens and get out more.

[ulli]

Here's a nice little snippet from James Gilliland (b'day also 22 July )


Breaking News: July 22, 2013 will be a 100 year planetary alignment, The star of David is also called Shield of David and even Magen David, the famous hexagram star alignment.


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The alignment is not until the end of the month, when the moon goes into Taurus. Several other planets are also not yet in place.

It never fails to amaze me how people twist and bend the truth.

Not saying that you, Taurean, did this...but however made this video and inserted the date of July 22nd.

[SilentFeathers]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!

[ulli]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!


The 'good lie' is already rampant, and as a result astrology is discredited, again and again.
When in reality it is the most efficient teaching tool there is for empowering the masses,
and ought to be taught to third graders.

[WhiteFeather]

I think Richard/Dick would be great boys name. But should we really give a Rats Ass. There are other priorities in this world to be concerned with. This is not one of them. People need to get a life and wake the F..k up. Shut off The Tell Lie Vision and go outside in nature or read a book. Sorry for Venting. People are Clueless.

[seeker/reader]

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[Kano]

Now that the "commoner" has been used for her main purpose, I wonder how long it will be before her "accident".

[Earth Angel]

I was in the pub for dinner last night a family with 4 teenage kids came in and offered to buy shots for everyone in the pub who would like to toast the newborn royal baby......um, no thanks.....we left. Even if it wasn't a lizard, Im Irish for ****s sake!

[Kimberley]

I hardly ever do what I am going to do, however I can not resist... less than 4 minutes...

Exclusive Footage of Birth of Royal Baby!

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[seeker/reader]

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[meeradas]

Satansbraten.
*chuckle*

[Soulboy]

Wills & Kate were photographed dangling their newborn out of the window... Does anyone remember what happened when a little someone called Michael Jackson did that very same thing? He was called a lunatic, shunned in the media and it was on the "news" for weeks, but when this lot of German tyrants in the UK do it, it's ever so wonderful... Let me go get a sick bag

[naste.de.lumina]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wvrU1cYDQcg/Ue2UGLr9c1I/AAAAAAAACQg/BOh1qZfpUMM/s640/02z-THE+GREAT+AWAKENING.jpg

[Soulboy]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!


The 'good lie' is already rampant, and as a result astrology is discredited, again and again.
When in reality it is the most efficient teaching tool there is for empowering the masses,
and ought to be taught to third graders.


Very true, Ulli. Not without a reason have the British royals had royal astrologers for centuries and time most of their important decisions and ceremonies with certain astrological dates. It could not be any more blatantly obvious, I think. The same goes for politicians and other people of what we dislike to call "the elite". They know about it, use it to their advantage on a constant basis and everyone else should do too, but it's easy to laugh about it when the majority opinion is that it's a laughable subject and cannot be taken seriously. What would your colleagues in the office, so-called mates, etc. say if you were to take this "hocus pocus" seriously... :rolleyes:

[Ria]

I was sent this, I don't know if this holds any merit, see what you think.
http://lightworkersxm.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/royal-baby-scam-jill-dandos-murder-link-and-fiance-in-charge-of-the-scam-all-you-need-to-know-kate-was-and-has-not-been-pregnant-why-did-they-kill-the-nurse-what-a-right-royal-scam/

[BIG CAT]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!


The 'good lie' is already rampant, and as a result astrology is discredited, again and again.
When in reality it is the most efficient teaching tool there is for empowering the masses,
and ought to be taught to third graders.

doesn't astrology tend to discredit itself ? nothing I have ever seen or been told by any so called experts in this field has ever passed,
in fact the only thing they got spot on was the fee.

[ulli]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!


The 'good lie' is already rampant, and as a result astrology is discredited, again and again.
When in reality it is the most efficient teaching tool there is for empowering the masses,
and ought to be taught to third graders.

doesn't astrology tend to discredit itself ? nothing I have ever seen or been told by any so called experts in this field has ever passed,
in fact the only thing they got spot on was the fee.

The word so-called is the real clue here. The only way to find out is to study it.
Not as hard as people think.
Basic maths.
Another plus-, when you make your own predictions there are no fees involved.

[Nick Matkin]

Are there any dates/times this kid could have been conceived and born that someone, somewhere just couldn't make any sinister numerological/astrological links to anything?

Seems to me that with a world full of daily events, not to mention astronomical movements, there just isn't a date where a royal birth could occur without being linked to many "significant" co-incidences.

And God only knows why the British media is still fawning over this royal nonsense. Everyone I know (OK, maybe not a representative sample of the British public I admit!) are sick to ******g death of hearing about it. Even the BBC kind of apologised over the endless speculation "when no facts were known"!

Then there'll be all that bollocks in the media about the significance of the name. Probably also to be discussed endlessly on here by numerologists that should get out more...

(That's a thought - can anyone come up with a name now that can't be linked in any way to, or symbolic of the New World Order, Illuminati, shape-shifting reptilians, human destiny, etc?)

Nick

[RMorgan]

Seems to me that with a world full of daily events, not to mention astronomical movements, there just isn't a date where a royal birth could occur without being linked to many "significant" co-incidences.


I couldn´t agree more, mate.

Independently of his birth date, people would find numerological or astrological connections.

Raf.

[ulli]

I was sent this, I don't know if this holds any merit, see what you think.
http://lightworkersxm.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/royal-baby-scam-jill-dandos-murder-link-and-fiance-in-charge-of-the-scam-all-you-need-to-know-kate-was-and-has-not-been-pregnant-why-did-they-kill-the-nurse-what-a-right-royal-scam/

If this is true, (and Im not denying it, as I intuited something similar earlier on, when I saw the pictures of the royal couple with their baby), then the 22/7/13 chart won't fit at all.
If the real birth is in September there will be no Saturn square sun and moon in that chart, and that makes a totally different personality and even physical type. Interesting...I'm curious to see how this unfolds....

[seeker/reader]

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[BIG CAT]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!


The 'good lie' is already rampant, and as a result astrology is discredited, again and again.
When in reality it is the most efficient teaching tool there is for empowering the masses,
and ought to be taught to third graders.

doesn't astrology tend to discredit itself ? nothing I have ever seen or been told by any so called experts in this field has ever passed,
in fact the only thing they got spot on was the fee.

The word so-called is the real clue here. The only way to find out is to study it.
Not as hard as people think.
Basic maths.
Another plus-, when you make your own predictions there are no fees involved.

would love to have the time to study it but seems as pointless as nailing jelly to the celling!
plus, I have more pressing matters like work and spending time with my young family.

[ulli]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!


The 'good lie' is already rampant, and as a result astrology is discredited, again and again.
When in reality it is the most efficient teaching tool there is for empowering the masses,
and ought to be taught to third graders.

doesn't astrology tend to discredit itself ? nothing I have ever seen or been told by any so called experts in this field has ever passed,
in fact the only thing they got spot on was the fee.

The word so-called is the real clue here. The only way to find out is to study it.
Not as hard as people think.
Basic maths.
Another plus-, when you make your own predictions there are no fees involved.

would love to have the time to study it but seems as pointless as nailing jelly to the celling!
plus, I have more pressing matters like work and spending time with my young family.


In that case I'd like to know what was your point in engaging in this conversation in the first place.

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[gripreaper]

The little prince has been named...George Alexander Louis.

King George? Geez, makes me cringe when I think of King George 111 historically.

[araucaria]

It's a complete misnomer. Ge-orgos meant a worker (tiller) of the land; it never meant land-owner until royalty came along.

Unknown lands used to marked 'Here be dragons!' until some George came along and said, I'll have that!

I wonder what dragon they have in mind this time.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I didn't notice that anyone had mentioned the significance of the numbers:

7...22....13 Strange coincidence, hmmm!

[Sierra]

The little prince has been named...George Alexander Louis.

King George? Geez, makes me cringe when I think of King George 111 historically.

Not to mention Louis the Headless. And the life of Alexander the Great wasn't so great ...

[witchy1]

Thanks Ria, I also have been having some significant doubts about the whole thing really. Her post baby belly is about the same as the week before when she christened that ship despite having been delivered of an 8lb 6oz baby. She seemed to carry at the same height through the pregnancy - which was very low and didnt really get much bigger since she popped out. She has had no swelling or puffy features despite being late.

Then she presents shortly after birth in heels and still no swelling at all. (She is even wearing her the engagement ring.)
(Maybe she just had the unheard of perfect pregnancy and delivery)

What William said after doesnt seem right either eg

Let us take him away and look after him now
This is the first time we have met him
Catherine and I have never been happier (missing - mother and child doing well?)


I was not aware that her baby Doctor #1- Dr Alan Farthing was Jill Dando's fiance - how interesting. (of course he wasn't questioned in relation to her murder) http://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/barry-george-jill-dando-jimmy-savile-bbc-paedophiles-cliff-richard-alan-farthing-nick-ross-and-britains-dirty-secrets/

Baby Doctor #2 Marcus Setchell sued for Negligence - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/7113080/The-Queens-doctor-is-sued-in-High-Court-for-300000.html

I just dunno...something is just not ok with this

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2013/news/130701/Marcus-Setchell-300.jpg


Drs. Alan Farthing (left) and Marcus Setchell
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20710260,00.html

[seeker/reader]

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[witchy1]

Hi seeker/reader - yes, unless there is something really really wrong the bonding happens immediately as its so important. Also I expect there would have been scans vidoe maybe amnio etc especially given the "importance" of the child and no doubt needing a healthy babe

I just read that her parents are having $7mil upgrade to their home.... that kids party business must be doing really well...... wonder why more arn't into it.

Also shes gone to her parents place for 6 weeks, whats that all about.... cant they cope by themselves (even with paid staff although she apparently refused a middy - hmmmm)?????

The more I think about it the more I feel its all just wrong.....something is just not right (maybe my overactive imagination)

[BIG CAT]

Many yearn and live for the thrill and rush of the "story" regardless if there's any truth or not to it....a good lie with some really good juicy stuff in it told just right will get the zombies in to a frenzy and turn the world upsidedown! LOL!


The 'good lie' is already rampant, and as a result astrology is discredited, again and again.
When in reality it is the most efficient teaching tool there is for empowering the masses,
and ought to be taught to third graders.

doesn't astrology tend to discredit itself ? nothing I have ever seen or been told by any so called experts in this field has ever passed,
in fact the only thing they got spot on was the fee.

The word so-called is the real clue here. The only way to find out is to study it.
Not as hard as people think.
Basic maths.
Another plus-, when you make your own predictions there are no fees involved.

would love to have the time to study it but seems as pointless as nailing jelly to the celling!
plus, I have more pressing matters like work and spending time with my young family.


In that case I'd like to know what was your point in engaging in this conversation in the first place.

because some people allow astrology to govern their lives (and if that's what they want good luck to them) but personally I believe it to be hokum.
Anyway ulli its been good chatting to you and hope we can continue to chat on other subjects in future.
I do however believe in positive energy and will send much to your good self and those that surround you my friend.
Big cat.

[witchy1]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-slIQ5EmSgMw/UfDDBaaP3MI/AAAAAAAA7bU/N0eRumFeVIM/s400/0.jpg
we are not the only ones thinking its all a bit dodgey
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news825_kate.html

[1inMany]

I'm wondering if someone could help me here. In my entire life, I have never known a woman to go to a hospital to give birth but not have an IV set up first thing. Well, actually, that would be second thing, preceded by setting up a method of payment. Anyway, I am only aware of how it goes with the people I have met, all Americans. Does anyone know if this is different outside the US?

Because...where are the cotton balls and bandaids? In my case, I couldn't have an IV done without having bruises all over, but I understand some people have an easier time of it. And of course, I personally hate the cotton balls and bandaids so I would have ripped them off before leaving the hospital...but there would still be tell tale signs for me.

But still...just wondering. Thanks.

[ulli]

I'm wondering if someone could help me here. In my entire life, I have never known a woman to go to a hospital to give birth but not have an IV set up first thing. Well, actually, that would be second thing, preceded by setting up a method of payment. Anyway, I am only aware of how it goes with the people I have met, all Americans. Does anyone know if this is different outside the US?

Because...where are the cotton balls and bandaids? In my case, I couldn't have an IV done without having bruises all over, but I understand some people have an easier time of it. And of course, I personally hate the cotton balls and bandaids so I would have ripped them off before leaving the hospital...but there would still be tell tale signs for me.

But still...just wondering. Thanks.

I had the same thought ...childbirth is a major physical event which leaves visible traces.
And there are none, except for a strange cone shaped belly, too pointed and too large.
Plus on the second day after giving birth there are many contractions, which are far too painful to allow for standing on high heels, in front of photographers and the public, with a never changing smile. Especially after the first birth.

[Earth Angel]

wonder about the blue polka dot dresses that Diana and Kate both wore leaving the hospital........is there any significance to polka dots? or am I mad lol

[1inMany]

I'm not actually convinced she didn't give birth to that baby, but I'm not convinced she did either. And I'm not obsessed with it, but I find it curious. Why would this be a big farce? That's one question I have.

Still, going back and forth with the situation, she sure doesn't look like the women I've known who have just given birth. For example, and trying not to be too graphic here, the strain of pushing a watermelon through a channel the size of a pencil...well, that tends to make your face puffy. And my husband would have gotten a boot in the behind (when I had recovered enough to make that happen) if he had not held onto me to make me steady if I had walked down steps the next day.

Being fair, though, there are women who recount their experiences as much, much easier.

I don't know, I'm still on the fence.

[witchy1]

I agree, I could not have worn heels either. (or any shoes actually for a few days) I think most women puff up and more so when they are late and this stick around for some days till our bodies readjust. As an aside I thought she was acting quite cold toward the baby as well. Again most mums cant take their eyes off the wonderful creation they have made and are in awe of such wonder! (IMHO again)

They do say she has trouble conceiving given her weight dropped to about 45kgs and her stay in hospital for morning sickness (ahem) was in fact time for harvesting eggs and implantation to a surrogate (seems to be on the rise for the rich) This would make (as others have pointed out) a September baby. This might account for the "suicide" of the nurse at the time of that hospitilization -given she may have had access to this knowledge.

She is in hiding now for 6 weeks at her parents, giving time for the real heir to be born....

Not sure if I beleive all that......................but it does make sense....specially the difficulty conceiving with the dramatic weight loss. I think there was some pressure to conceive - well thats what she is there for when all said and done.

[Earth Angel]

so will they make a switch with the baby we saw when the real heir is born?? in that case they should have shown us a rather small baby now not a 8.5 lb ?? this way in September when the new one is born and presented to us as a 2 month old, it would look like little scrawny George has gained a pound or two??

[witchy1]

Maybe they will deliver the "real" one early by ceaser? I dunno Earth Angel....just putting the speculation out there.

[Nick Matkin]

Could someone explain that if a baby swap is due in September, how people are expected not to notice that suddenly the child hasn't grown, or is smaller? Surely if this sort of thing was to take place the Royals would have got the timing right?

The whole story is ridiculous. She may or may not have given birth when it was claimed, but to say another one (the 'real' one?) will be coming along a month later I think is just silly. Don't forget that every possible photo of this child will be scrutinised by the public and journalists, so if it's the wrong size/age, someone's going to notice. There's so much public interest in the story that the slightest whiff of something not being quite right with this child will be surely picked up. And it'll be all over PA and similar forums.

The fact the the doctors involved with the birth both have interesting backgrounds is a little bizarre, but proof of nothing.

And another thing... Was the radio prank call from the Australian radio station just a lucky continence, or was this all part of the plan to 'kill the nurse who knew too much'? And the Australian DJs? What do they think of this theory?

What is missing from this intriguing story is any scrap of evidence. And I think we're getting perilously close to constructing one conspiracy to support another - not very stable.

Nick

[BIG CAT]

Could someone explain that if a baby swap is due in September, how people are expected not to notice that suddenly the child hasn't grown, or is smaller? Surely if this sort of thing was to take place the Royals would have got the timing right?

The whole story is ridiculous. She may or may not have given birth when it was claimed, but to say another one (the 'real' one?) will be coming along a month later I think is just silly. Don't forget that every possible photo of this child will be scrutinised by the public and journalists, so if it's the wrong size/age, someone's going to notice. There's so much public interest in the story that the slightest whiff of something not being quite right with this child will be surely picked up. And it'll be all over PA and similar forums.

The fact the the doctors involved with the birth both have interesting backgrounds is a little bizarre, but proof of nothing.

And another thing... Was the radio prank call from the Australian radio station just a lucky continence, or was this all part of the plan to 'kill the nurse who knew too much'? And the Australian DJs? What do they think of this theory?

What is missing from this intriguing story is any scrap of evidence. And I think we're getting perilously close to constructing one conspiracy to support another - not very stable.

Nick

Nick, I think your spot on with your statement, sometimes people can be to quick to look for conspiracy where there maybe is none.
My wife had a baby two weeks ago and yes she went through hell (2 days in labour then forceps followed by c- section) and 36 hours later discharged feeling like she had been hit by a train, but some other women who had a natural birth were walking out of hospital (some in heels) like nothing bothered them.
Also worth pointing out the smokers would have walked on hot coals and broken glass to get their fix.

[witchy1]

So BIG CAT how many women did you actually notice "who had a natural birth walked out of hospital (some in heels) like nothing bothered them." And exactly how can you speak with such certaintly on the matter? Did you interview them in relation to their having a natural birth, date since delivery and ascertaining their current health as they were walking out? Or are your comments based entirely on your observations?
I dont understand the comment on smokers as it relates to post baby wellness. Are you saying smokers recover faster?

"The whole story is ridiculous. She may or may not have given birth when it was claimed, but to say another one (the 'real' one?) will be coming along a month later I think is just silly"
To each his own Nick - Nothing is impossible and as stated, conjecture. As an aside noone has any real proof / scrap of evidence of anything when discussing conspiracies do they?

"There's so much public interest in the story that the slightest whiff of something not being quite right with this child will be surely picked up." - Isnt that what is happening and not just here?

Do you think the Royals are beyond deception? Just a simple example.... The Queens Mothers nickname was cookie because her real mother was one of the Cooks at the Palace - but there is no "proof" of that is there?

[Flash]

When I was 5 months pregnant, I was hospitalised for a few days. In my room was another woman who had just given birth the same day. 4 hours later, she was up, no belly left, walking around, eating like a pig, no swelling except for her breast which she was lamenting about, and got up and left with her baby the same evening (4 months later I was real jealous)

With the care and treatments royals have, I would expect the mother to have it real easy.

[sheme]

Just read this entire thread!- Just reminded why I have lost interest in some of the garbage and mass hysteria pushed out by some confused folks -. Me - I stand proudly and welcome this little human child and all the other babes that have incarnated at this time to clear up our mess-- I am reminded we are responsible for all that we do and THINK- thoughts take form and stay with us and attract like minded thoughts and those that produce them, we are what we think. Take care, take control.

[sigma6]

According to Bill Schnoebelin, a former 90th degree Freemason and former Satanist, their wedding also just happened to be on an important Satanic Holiday. You would think, just to avoid the controversy, you might want to pick another date, but then again, maybe they couldn't afford to hire anyone to look into those sort of details...

:rolleyes:

[araucaria]

When I was 5 months pregnant, I was hospitalised for a few days. In my room was another woman who had just given birth the same day. 4 hours later, she was up, no belly left, walking around, eating like a pig, no swelling except for her breast which she was lamenting about, and got up and left with her baby the same evening (4 months later I was real jealous)

With the care and treatments royals have, I would expect the mother to have it real easy.

Puzzling post Flash :) Your experience suggests that royal treatment has nothing to do with it. In my experience, some women are just born mothers, including obstetrically speaking, others not. And I gather the rich and famous seem to go for surrogate mothers because they are unwilling to find out which category they belong to.

[Flash]

Waht i wanted to say is that Kate may have had a surrogate mother, may be a naturally born mother (no problems with swelling etc), or she may have such treatments as to make the pregnancy real easy, we know they have science we do not have.

Yet, the baby may also literally be a test tube grown baby, no surrogate or anything, like in ETs' operations.

My preferred option is that she was extremely well taken care of in order to avoid discomfort or problems.

However, I reserve my opinion. The way she related to her child will be the demonstrative factor. Women who do not carry their babies in their bellies and do not give birth have a different kind of attachment, although my sister in law (who had her own and adopted children) tells me the love is as powerful for both situations. The future may tell.