Am I really responsible for everything that happens to me?

[christian]

The idea that we call upon ourselves everything that happens to us is quite popular in new-age circles, but it is also a bone of contention. Many find it highly disrepectful to suggest that for example a rape victim or groups of people who die during a natural catastrophe or as a result of a war are responsible for what happened to them.

Let's figure this out, it's a long standing dilemma among new-agers and truthers, among people who want to consciously evolve.

This is the definition of responsible from Merriam-Websters:





1
a : liable to be called on to answer
b (I) : liable to be called to account as the primary cause, motive, or agent <a committee responsible for the job> (II) : being the cause or explanation <mechanical defects were responsible for the accident>
c : liable to legal review or in case of fault to penalties

2
a : able to answer for one's conduct and obligations : trustworthy
b : able to choose for oneself between right and wrong

3
: marked by or involving responsibility or accountability <responsible financial policies>

4
: politically answerable; especially : required to submit to the electorate if defeated by the legislature—used especially of the British cabinet


So, am I responsible for what is happening in my life? I'll go through it bit by bit:





1a: Yes. I am capable to answer to anything, even if my answer may be insignificant. I have the ability to act in any situation, even if acting merely means setting my intention, which is an act, because focused intention precedes manifestation and is thus part of the process of manifesting.

1b: No. We are all co-creators, our personal responsibility for a given event is thus varying. All things arise in dependence upon multiple causes and conditions.

1c: Yes. All that happens in my life is liable to review in the bigger picture.

2: Here responsibility is used synonymous with trustworthiness and ethical awareness or decency. Am I displaying all these traits in my life? Well, I'm surely intending to.

3: Here responsibility means either accountability or prudence. Mixture of 1c and 2.

4: —


So responsibility is shared, obviously. Everyone who is self-aware and has creative power is generally responsible in one way or another.

If something happens to you, whatever it is, it doesn’t happen by chance. Maybe it’s part of group karma, maybe it’s that you’re just a welcome victim for someone who has far more personal power than you. In any case, it’s always our lack of power, whether individually or as a group, that makes us victims.

So of course you're not solely responsible for anything that happens to you. But claiming responsibility, seeking to be more responsible in any given situation is the way to self-empowerment, to become less of a leaf in the wind that is being ruled by outside forces.

The more responsible you are, the more powerful you are, the freer you are, as it says in the Handbook for the New Paradigm:





Responsibility and freedom are interchangeable terms.

Responsibility negates victim/abuser attitudes.



It's about the attitude. If you're focusing on be(com)ing responsible, it doesn't mean that you'll never be a victim. But you never settle with staying a victim, your dynamics are directed at becoming more empowered, becoming able to make more of a crucial difference in any situation. That's why it's important for your soul growth to have and keep that attitude and focus.

Hence, keep one eye on the road; be aware that others with whatever intentions weigh in on what happens to you. And keep the other eye on your goal, your own self-empowerment that enables you to truly determine the path on your soul journey freely with the highest possible degree of responsibility.

And the most powerful force in my opinion, the best way to become responsible, is to focus on love. You can employ all kinds of artifices and move yourself ahead of others for some time, but in the long run only love will truly move you forward in becoming more powerful and responsible.

This is the hardest way to affect anything, the most subtle, but also the most profound, I think. Whatever situation you are in and might despair, the answer to the problem is always, let what you do be infused with even more love. And again, and again.


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The big mystery to me is: Who is the prime cause of existence? Did we initiate all of this? If yes, aren't we then indeed responsible for everything? Or were we put here by someone else?

I guess this is a question that will only be answered after claiming responsiblity and becoming empowered anyways...

[donk]

I suspect maybe the "shared responsibility" you nicely describe and the "prime cause of our existence" you wonder about may somehow be one and the same. I am not sure we are "put here", that there is an element of "this is where we are".

The personal responsibility (which I agree with you, the experience is enhanced when it is focused toward love) is our empowerment, the free will choice of how we experience it...is really all we have, maybe even possibly all of who we are?

[delfine]

Interesting thoughts christian. I´ve contemplated some of them myself lately. It also bugs me that the new agers,
completely ascribe any accident or misfortune to people having attracted it to themselves by fear, negative thinking etc.
Because how do you explain awful things happening to animals or infants who don´t have a sense of self or fully developed mind? Animals don´t think or worry like humans do, so why or how do they manage to attract unhappy lives in confinement, being mistreated etc?

[northstar]

Nice post Christian!

It goes to the heart of the philosophical dynamics underlying the New Age movement and why many sincere seekers are losing their taste for New Ageism. One might appreciate a fancy meal of cake, cookies and sweet soda pop, but a steady diet of it would become unpleasant very quickly and most people would look for more substantial and nourishing fare.

Which is what is happening with the New Age movement now. The messianic, Abrahamic religions took thousands of years to lose their lustre but New Ageism managed to self destruct after only a few decades.

One of the worst New Age beliefs is that we create our own reality. Although it is true that our vibrational signature and intention attracts certain experiences to us, when this is interpreted in a too-simplistic manner it leads to the cold and cruel blaming of victims for whatever violence is brought upon them.

I also dislike the oversimplification of the Law of Attraction. I have seen New Agers gleefully absorbed in narcissistic manifesting of "MY perfect body", "MY sexual conquests", "MY ever increasing stock portfolio", "MY cars and boats and mansions and homes" etc. I am not attacking wealth and success because many wealthy and successful people have a nobility of spirit and they spend a great deal of time serving others. (service to others). Unfortunately many New Agers approach the Law of Attraction like self absorbed children in a toy store, concerned only about themselves. (service to self).

You mention that the best and most powerful way to become responsible is to focus on love. I agree with that, but I actually prefer framing this as "service to others" versus "service to self".

Tom Montalk says it nicely so I will just copy his words. :)

Service to Others. A spiritual orientation where one advances through assisting others in their evolutionary advancement. A more technical way of saying “positive” or “right hand path” or “benevolent.”

Service to Self. A metaphysical orientation where one serves self by exploiting and manipulating others, reducing their freewill to increase one’s own. Overall this creates a freewill imbalance. STS systems are closed systems, meaning they have to take material and energy from one place to feed another. Thus survival and competition, overpowering the weak, violence, and manipulation arise.

http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#STO

[Fred Steeves]

The idea that we call upon ourselves everything that happens to us is quite popular in new-age circles, but it is also a bone of contention. Many find it highly disrepectful to suggest that for example a rape victim or groups of people who die during a natural catastrophe or as a result of a war are responsible for what happened to them.


Hi Christian. I think there's a substantial difference between most of that New Age type airy fairy psycho babble, and coming to the realization for one's self. Realizing it for one's self generally comes after (finally) growing tired of being repeatedly splatted on the "arbitrary" windshield of life. *IMO*, assuming total responsibility is a mandatory step to regaining whatever it is that we have lost, or maybe even carelessly threw away at some point. We may still get splatted, but at least can own up to the responsibility of being there for the event in the first place.

Being torn over Christianity for a good chunk of my life after being raised that way, the true beginning of my journey began about 10 years ago. After mulling it over for quite some period of time, I pulled into my driveway one hot afternoon after work, and said aloud my last little prayer to the god of the Bible. It went something like this: "Hi there. You know what? I just can't do this any more. If I'm dead wrong about what I think about this whole God thing, and you feel the need to mercilessly punish me for that, then do what ya gotta do. But I'm done..."

That turned out to be a big big turning point, and nothing was ever the same.


Many find it highly disrepectful to suggest that for example a rape victim or groups of people who die during a natural catastrophe or as a result of a war are responsible for what happened to them.


We've all heard that argument numerous times, right down to it even being disrespectful to families of 9/11 dead to suggest that the event was a false flag. "As above so below" dictates that there are levels of our being we cannot even begin to comprehend in our current state, so how can we truly know just how deep personal responsibility goes?

The victimhood meme runs long and deep in this place, and it's pounded in even further everywhere we turn. Could that be because the key to freedom is the exact opposite?

Cheers brother, and great idea for a thread!

Fred

[Anchor]

A lot of this depends on who is answering the question.

Pose the question to your incarnate ego, you will likely get the stock answers, victim-hood, offense, social conditioned responses etc

Pose the question to the source of your inner truth and light - free from all fear and you will get an entirely different answer that transcends your ability to express it understandably to most people with limited mortal words.

[ghostrider]

I have a problem with religion, when it tells me join me or burn in hell forever, where is love in that ??? is that really a choice ??? I am responsible for my actions, no one else is to blame... I said it, did it , thought it, agreed or disagreed ... earth humans always want someone else to do everything for them ... they always set a power over them , saying if I follow the rules , the higher power will take care of me and my actions ... camelsqueeze ... The entire situation of earth today is a result of earth human irresponsibility ... I offer in our defense , the mind control these days is overwhelming to say the least ... look how many folks have bought things they really don't need ... we are marketed to on every level ... electronic impulses are beamed at us daily, We make the choice but, there is a push to follow the program of the matrix , sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but, We stay in the fight for our future , the fight to be free, free thinking, and learning from our mistakes, waking up each day trying to do better than the day before ... our world doesn't give us much to work with concerning good, all the more reason to try and create our better world/reality ... made a huge step today at work, two co-workers were all ears, they didn't even notice all the towers around us, and I exposed mind control and the possiblity of electronic impulses beamed at their minds ... showed them towers they pass every day for three months and never noticed how many , and how close together they are ... I counted eight in less than a one mile radius ... they are controlling your moods... controlling and influencing your thoughts ... so we are responsibile to a certain extent but, always bombarded with a push in our subconscious mind, to obey, consume, and above all stay asleep ...

[christian]

It also bugs me that the new agers, completely ascribe any accident or misfortune to people having attracted it to themselves by fear, negative thinking etc.

I think the Law of Attraction does exist. But it's not the only force in the universe. There are many forces and concepts in the new-age arena that together describe appropriately a lot of what's going on and how, I think. But picking one of them and claiming "that's all there is" is of course short-sighted.

By the way, the quotes in my first post were not from the Handbook for the New Paradigm, I just remembered, but from Becoming, the third book of that trilogy. Oh well, this is now from Messages for the Groundcrew, the sequel to that trilogy. It's a description of the four major forces at work on the current human plane of existence:





1. The Law of Attraction:
like attracts like

2. The Law of Deliberate Intent:
what is intended and held resolutely within thought, word and deed manifests

3. The Law of Allowance:
allowing what is intended to manifest while using the observer mode to be awake and aware while continuing to hold the focus without being rigid as to the outcome (allowing thought to think!)

4. The Law of Balance:
applying the first 3 laws and focusing within the present moment

(+ freewill choices of any self-aware beings)


You can use the Law of Attraction, but when there are other self-aware beings focusing their intention on keeping you from attracting something, then you'll have a hard time. The first two laws may seem somewhat contradictory, but I think that actually all the laws are complementing each other.

[ghostrider]

whatsoever a man soweth , that shall he also reap ... I like to say garbage in, garbage out ... Really it's staying steady , no matter what happens to you, doing good to all , not just the ones that do good to you ... being friendly with those who are unfriendly with you , giving to those who never give to you, staying steady ... it's all a choice no matter what... it's not what happens to you, it's how you REACT to what happens to you ...

[Justintime]

No. We are not responsible for the actions of others and I don't believe anybody can learn anything "spiritually," from being raped, murdered, sacrificed in some sort of cult ritual, tortured, or psychologically manipulated. There must be literally millions of other ways for the soul to learn forgiveness, empathy, compassion etc that don't involve deception of self and unfathomable pain and suffering. It is a popular new age belief to say we shape our own reality with our thoughts and intentions and like attracts like etc, but this is a classic case of what applies for something does not apply for everything. Typical all or nothing thinking.

Anyways, what we do control is our perception of what is happening to us and this may be where our power lies. The most powerful thing Jesus ever did was stare at his crucifiers in the face and ask forgiveness for them. I can't imagine being so filled with love that when you look at your executioners you completely look beyond what they are doing and are moved to pray for them. This is power to me.

However, part of me thinks that Earth is a school of hard knocks and that when we agree to come here we sort of sign a waiver that reads: Anything can happen down there from your most dreaded nightmare to having your most blissful inner desires filled. Enter at your own risk.

[ghostrider]

No. We are not responsible for the actions of others and I don't believe anybody can learn anything "spiritually," from being raped, murdered, sacrificed in some sort of cult ritual, tortured, or psychologically manipulated. There must be literally millions of other ways for the soul to learn forgiveness, empathy, compassion etc that don't involve deception of self and unfathomable pain and suffering. It is a popular new age belief to say we shape our own reality with our thoughts and intentions and like attracts like etc, but this is a classic case of what applies for something does not apply for everything. Typical all or nothing thinking.

Anyways, what we do control is our perception of what is happening to us and this may be where our power lies. The most powerful thing Jesus ever did was stare at his crucifiers in the face and ask forgiveness for them. I can't imagine being so filled with love that when you look at your executioners you completely look beyond what they are doing and are moved to pray for them. This is power to me.

However, part of me thinks that Earth is a school of hard knocks and that when we agree to come here we sort of sign a waiver that reads: Anything can happen down there from your most dreaded nightmare to having your most blissful inner desires filled. Enter at your own risk.

I like it, no promises , enter at your own risk ... experience all good and bad , ups and downs, but be of good cheer , your not alone in the fight, contact -connect -enjoy and learn at the starship avalon, your inner self will guide you to it ...

[Mark]

The big mystery is not just a mystery to you, Christian, it is a mystery to all those who have ever attempted contemplation of that question. I've read plenty of books that claim an answer and twist words and concepts into pretzels ending up in Gordian knots with Moibus strips planing through through their explanations, leaving the reader even more confused than before. I don't find it a productive exercise to engage in those thought processes as my conceptual apparatus seems a bit limited when attempting to contemplate the infinite. If there is no answer, then there really is no question either. And here I go with a Gordian knot myself.

On the question of responsibility, I suppose it really depends on if you think that Reincarnation is real or not. If it is, then the interplay of karma through lifetimes results in positive and negative actions that require balancing in successive lifetimes. Through those mechanisms, it makes sense to interpret the events of a life in the context of debt accrued in past lives. If it is not, then it makes no sense to blame life-long illnesses, sudden and tragic deaths and youth with terminal diseases upon forces of balance when there is no opposing force to act as causation in order to produce the result witnessed or experienced in the lives of those so affected.

[Another1]

We used to give free rides with no questions asked to women escaping a beating.
When they finally learned that they had a choice and an out, they stopped being a victim and called us for a ride out of the situation.
That's where the line is drawn for me, at the point of a person having the needed 'accurate info' and being aware they have a choice.

I've witnessed philosophers have a lot of fun with this concept of responsibility. One can literally smack a youngster into a brick wall and if they hollar, lay the victim label on them, laugh at them 'blaming' someone else for their trouble.

One can lie for several years to a youngster, then explain later, "It's not my fault you trusted me."

Beat the hell of of your kids because their soul made the choice to have an abusive parent.

One guy who taught me several lessons, would walk his blind dog into a brick wall and laugh at how stupid the dog was.
He treated humans the same way. Acccording to new age, it's possible the dog is a reincarnation of someone who opted to live a life as ignorant? dunno?

It's a tough nut and certainly makes things easier on the charlatans/profiteers and abusers in general.
They accept no responsibility for suffering brought about by their words or deeds. Fun stuff *LOL*

[deridan]

some things which happen in society can throw a rage on us, showing how little we control within it. what is the attitude of doctor who can remove a cancer?, much the same attitude I'd expect from a normal person in society rather than merely attributing an event to some thing that was karmically set to happen. we could bring extinction to predators, why not the same to person-miscreants

of karma stories, of christian hell stories (some friend showed me that the greatest current exponent of such stories, to show that even well meaning pastors can rot in hell, is some korean pastor and his congregation with there all night services),
I believe that they only have one place ... not for us as a means of attribution to something a victim must sort out....
but purely for ourselves. The prize of personal evolution, soul-ar evolution is so great, that no picnic holt is to be al-lot-ed to it

(as a buddist, i'd have a tremendous unction not to spend a freebooting life here again, as a christian, i'd want to know i'm fully self regulated, that the rapist and killer has no place near me,,, indeed, let us not use our myths wrongly by placing them in the wrong framework)

[Chakra]

It also bugs me that the new agers, completely ascribe any accident or misfortune to people having attracted it to themselves by fear, negative thinking etc.

I think the Law of Attraction does exist. But it's not the only force in the universe. There are many forces and concepts in the new-age arena that together describe appropriately a lot of what's going on and how, I think. But picking one of them and claiming "that's all there is" is of course short-sighted.
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You can use the Law of Attraction, but when there are other self-aware beings focusing their intention on keeping you from attracting something, then you'll have a hard time. The first two laws may seem somewhat contradictory, but I think that actually all the laws are complementing each other.

Hi
I had to come out of lurking mode for this, couldn't help myself so first off just who actually decided these were "Laws"? What kind of Laws and do they know that they sort contradict the laws of physics ie the Laws of Nature? lol


Here are some Laws of Physic's….


1. The Law of Attraction:
like attracts like

Opposites attract - think magnets - like repels


2. The Law of Deliberate Intent:
what is intended and held resolutely within thought, word and deed manifests

But manifests what?
As - All action has an equal and opposite reaction - Newton's Third law: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to that of the first body.
OR Call that one Murphy's Law lol


3. The Law of Allowance:
allowing what is intended to manifest while using the observer mode to be awake and aware while continuing to hold the focus without being rigid as to the outcome (allowing thought to think!)

All observation is altered by the viewer know as the Observer Effect…." in quantum mechanics, which deals with very small objects, it is not possible to observe a system without changing the system, so the observer must be considered part of the system being observed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_%28physics%29


4. The Law of Balance:
applying the first 3 laws and focusing within the present moment.

There is technically never a 'now' there is only what did happen and what will happen. Told to me by Russel Targ (physicist) We can know what did happen but it is just harder to know what will.

or for further reading - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Present :)

you can google the others they are easy to find...

Cheers

[Tony]

As long as there is an "I" thing will 'appear' to happen.
"I" is merely mistaking reflection for reality.

That which recognises the reflection is the
real reality.

The moon looked into a puddle and believed
the reflection of itself to be real.

[Carmody]

I guess this is a question that will only be answered after claiming responsibility and becoming empowered anyways...

^^^^ Exactly this (sort of thing).

I do indeed get tired of being limited by the capacity of humans to understand the true nature of reality. That their bubble of 'fundamentals' which is part of their autonomous way of being, that mass of them as a reality matrix limits my expression into and of this space.

Which has it's good and bad aspects.

Sure, the mass of people can be manipulated via that autonomous mechanism inside of them, but it's almost always done in the form of religion (monkey hierarchy as a lower mechanism manipulated in the human into a different form: god said-'I cannot exist without your belief'), politics, rigid dogmatic fundamentalist based engineering science, or fear. All of them are held by a purposely injected environment of ignorance about real truths, ignorance about real aspects of quantum realities and connectivity.

I'd rather that people understood the truth of it, that their commonality is what binds this reality matrix together into a cohesive whole. That religion is a manipulation OF that fundamental mechanism of co-operative reality matrix maintenance.

That dogmatic fundamentalist engineering science is not reality -it is a fabrication, an extension of religion and dogma. That was it's entire point, it's reason for introduction on the world stage, at the same time and place as the Bavarian Illuminati. The age of 'reason'. My ass. Feh.

[Fred Steeves]

Being torn over Christianity for a good chunk of my life after being raised that way, the true beginning of my journey began about 10 years ago. After mulling it over for quite some period of time, I pulled into my driveway one hot afternoon after work, and said aloud my last little prayer to the god of the Bible. It went something like this: "Hi there. You know what? I just can't do this any more. If I'm dead wrong about what I think about this whole God thing, and you feel the need to mercilessly punish me for that, then do what ya gotta do. But I'm done...

That turned out to be a big big turning point, and nothing was ever the same.


I hate to quote myself, but just to keep in context. Since first reading "The Kybalion" a couple years ago, which someone here turned me on to, the discovery of the Hermetic saying "As above so below, as below so above" has become a life changing learning tool. We simply can't envision the higher levels of reality (including responsibility), but we can peek at their "shadows" by incorporating this famous axiom into our daily lives. So here's a personal example of how that helped me over a long term hurdle I had been stuck on for many years.

My experience in the Navy back in the early to mid 90's was truly the best and worst of times, but those worst of times stalked and haunted me in constant re-occurring nightmares. During my last several months in, I came to the realization that I hated it. I felt like a trapped wild animal, and all I wanted was OUT! Well I finally got what I wished for, but then the dreams started. The situations differed, but the main theme was always the same. I would "wake up" one day, only to realize in a horrified panic that I was somehow back in, and there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. "HOW CAN THIS BE!!!???"

Fast forward to 2011, and it began to hit me that the Navy wasn't to blame for all those troubles, it was yours truly. The Navy would never have changed to suite my likes and dislikes, and nor should it...I chose to enlist, and soon enough tried to make it mold to MY limited and selfish vision of how it should be. Thus the troubles. Well guess what? Once I accepted total and complete responsibility for that, those haunting dreams, after all those years, finally came to an end. Almost as if someone had been doggedly determined to get something through my thick stubborn skull. (LOL)

So back to "as above so below". I don't pretend to comprehend the "above" aspect of that, but the "below" aspect was/is certainly a sneak peek.

[conk]

Interesting thoughts christian. I´ve contemplated some of them myself lately. It also bugs me that the new agers,
completely ascribe any accident or misfortune to people having attracted it to themselves by fear, negative thinking etc.
Because how do you explain awful things happening to animals or infants who don´t have a sense of self or fully developed mind? Animals don´t think or worry like humans do, so why or how do they manage to attract unhappy lives in confinement, being mistreated etc?Energy from ancestors, inherited frequencies. Unresolved issues in past lives.

[Prodigal Son]

Maybe "responsible" is not the right word, perhaps it is more like we agreed to the possibility of falling victim to certain things in order for our loved ones and those around us to learn compassion and unconditional love.

As Rahkyt said, it depends on if you take the reincarnation view. Death is not the end of anything except a biological meat suit. If we are souls on a long journey of many lifetimes in order to eventually become Gods, then it would make sense that in between lives we assess where we are, with the help of spiritual guides, that would even include our Higher Self, and then we accept an assignment for our next life that would entail a situation where we could work on the points of progression that we need to, then it would make perfect sense.

I don't know how we can be held responsible for contracting cancer later in life as a result of getting vaccinated as babies with a cancer-causing monkey virus. That is simply a violation of free will. Did we accept or agree to such a thing before coming here? I don't know, but what I do know is that the ones who do these things are going to have to pay for it at some point. That's not revenge, it's just the Law.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

On the question of responsibility, I suppose it really depends on if you think that Reincarnation is real or not. If it is, then the interplay of karma through lifetimes results in positive and negative actions that require balancing in successive lifetimes. Through those mechanisms, it makes sense to interpret the events of a life in the context of debt accrued in past lives. If it is not, then it makes no sense to blame life-long illnesses, sudden and tragic deaths and youth with terminal diseases upon forces of balance when there is no opposing force to act as causation in order to produce the result witnessed or experienced in the lives of those so affected.

This is well said mate. There are several difficult mechanisms involved with karma that many find very difficult to resolve, let alone understand. They find it unpalatable, even very offensive to believe that, for instance, a young child that is being abused had to incarnate in that circumstance in order to repay past-life sins - or as another example someone suddenly struck down by a tragic accident, or any other poor unfortunate born into a destructive or underprivileged environment.

Consider, however, that sometimes it is not they who have to learn a lesson. It is not always they who have to repay karma. These souls often come with great love to selflessly provide a lesson for others.

In the first example given, there may well be a karmic lesson for the abused to understand (and ultimately grow from) but there is also a key lesson for the abuser too. That could be humility, compassion, self-control of one's energies, recognition of every life as sacred, or to find courage in asking for forgiveness. In the second such example of sudden ‘tragedy’, the lesson maybe with a life-partner whose task is to drop all other matters to care for the loved-one in need, to put them first, and through devotion, patience and hard work, discover that love is all that matters…

Even walking along you see a poor homeless man, starving and penniless. It may be that there is a karmic lesson for him in this instance. But not always just him. There is another opportunity to teach with this situation - to teach you! So do not think 'poor soul, wonder what he did in a past life to deserve that?' Instead think: 'there is a lesson here for me. What is he teaching me... compassion? generosity? sympathy? or is he showing me that we are all spiritual beings, and that everyone is beautiful no matter their purpose, their appearance, or their status?

These are just a few examples of how karma can work, which is not always punitive per se – in balancing out past transgressions, but in creating scenarios that can teach us important spiritual lessons, and to provide a platform of revelation and spiritual insight. Perhaps they keep appearing as well, and that we’ve tried to learn/grasp them before but haven’t quite got the message. Thus, many are incarnating to confront lessons, sometimes minor lessons that they have faced in the past, maybe over and over again, like sitting an exam over and over again trying to get a ‘pass’ but not quite managing it. This is the ‘wheel of karma’ we are all trying to escape.

[christian]

who actually decided these were "Laws"? What kind of Laws and do they know that they sort contradict the laws of physics ie the Laws of Nature?

Channeled info by George Green (http://projectcamelot.org/george_green.html). I think the main difference is that the laws of physics deal with "inanimate" objects, while these laws (which resonate with me) deal with self-aware creators.



1. The Law of Attraction:
like attracts like

Opposites attract - think magnets - like repels

We all the desire to express our true selves, and in order to do that it's helpful to be in an environment and in situations where others are on a similar frequency. Thus we are attracted to such situations and environments; like attracts like.



2. The Law of Deliberate Intent:
what is intended and held resolutely within thought, word and deed manifests

But manifests what?
As - All action has an equal and opposite reaction - Newton's Third law: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to that of the first body.

Manifests as physical reality. I think we as creators have the power to use, shape, channel, and focus energy in the source field and can thus create or manifest things. Easy example: Build a chair. Where's the equal and opposite force there?



3. The Law of Allowance:
allowing what is intended to manifest while using the observer mode to be awake and aware while continuing to hold the focus without being rigid as to the outcome (allowing thought to think!)

All observation is altered by the viewer know as the Observer Effect…." in quantum mechanics, which deals with very small objects, it is not possible to observe a system without changing the system, so the observer must be considered part of the system being observed."

I think this law is about this paradox between being very involved and being not attached. So you use the second law to set things in motion, but you've got to appreciate that the flow of your endeavor cannot possibly be comprehended in its entirety beforehand. Thus it's useful to not observe with a rigid attachement to a particular outcome or way of proceeding, but you let the energy that you have set in motion find its own way naturally, which is the most efficient way. Every change in that natural flow by you the observer wouldn't help the flow. This law is about being in a meditative trusting mind-set, I think.



4. The Law of Balance:
applying the first 3 laws and focusing within the present moment.

There is technically never a 'now' there is only what did happen and what will happen. Told to me by Russel Targ (physicist) We can know what did happen but it is just harder to know what will.

There is never a now? When are you acting, never now?

[Mark]

There is technically never a 'now' there is only what did happen and what will happen. Told to me by Russel Targ (physicist) We can know what did happen but it is just harder to know what will.

There is never a now? When are you acting, never now?

Good question, Christian. I curiously await a response. This is revolutionary stuff.

[Kristin]

I feel the most responsible with how I react when things are happening to me... as to the rest, it's a mixed bag.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[ulli]

The learning curve goes up exponentially once one decides to look at life in this manner of accepting responsibility.

If it is done as a voluntary act much can be gleaned from each situation that arises.

That which brings each situation about is one's own subconscious, and if this is understood, clearly, then it is quite easy to accept responsibility.
It means being open to the lessons of life, and while being alert and keenly aware, search for an appropriate response to the situation.
It is not something that is imposed, the way one is held responsible at a job for money in the cash register when working as a cashier.
This is done more as a contract with oneself...an inner, personal agreement. Then there is also no argument.

[Carmody]

There is technically never a 'now' there is only what did happen and what will happen. Told to me by Russel Targ (physicist) We can know what did happen but it is just harder to know what will.

There is never a now? When are you acting, never now?

Good question, Christian. I curiously await a response. This is revolutionary stuff.

The now moment is the everything moment. The connection to all moment. The timelessness itself. The road to nowhere and everywhere. The connection to nothing and all.

This is not a riddle answer.

The pre and the post are the reflections, that spread forward and back.

I'm not sure I understand the question, I thought this was known.

Pre, post,and now, are inseparable, but do contain different values - as seen from this "place", but only as seen in the context of differential. One cannot be recognized as separate unless the contrast of other exists.

You are connected to all and occupy the now, in that...the differential of pre and post can be recognized. It is possible to fully occupy the now and cease to be in recognition of pre and post, and then move to any part of pre and post. To lose the anchor of reflection, and then go anywhere.

[heyokah]

Maybe "responsible" is not the right word, perhaps it is more like we agreed to the possibility of falling victim to certain things in order for our loved ones and those around us to learn compassion and unconditional love.

What we can be certain of is that what was chosen yesterday influenced today. And that what we choose today will influence tomorrow.
Maybe our treasure is an eternal moment in a powerful now.

-
I came upon this quote. I don't know who wrote it.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2mh779s.jpg

[Carmody]

Does one see how the two above posts are essentially..the same? Different, yet..the same?

[Another1]

In just two days from now,
tomorrow will be yesterday.

Dissecting love with philosophy puts the poet in my heart to sleep.
I have noticed though, perhaps it was just my path, dunno?
Most every single powerful influence in my spiritual life has pushed me to ignore personal/physical love.

They called it all kinds of names with main implication being that it is juvenile. Words like sinful, unenlightened, barbarian are offered also. One cult group that held me for a time even assigned a mate who thought love was stupid. *funnier now than then*

In a fantasy once, my muse offered this brief dialogue:
"We call it source."
- "What?"
"This thing you call love, we call source. It's always on, not something we have to seek."

As for me? On this topic I feel like that guy in the Matrix movie who didn't give a damn if the steak was real or not.

[skippy]

No answers but just another question: How do we survive freedom? Responsibility means different things for different people. For exemple, can I be held responsible for the coming breakdown of the international economy? I'm feeding the system with my participating in it... At the same time, most of tomorrow's decisions have already been planned and programmed for in the past... The forces at work are tremendous and it is impossible to stop the machine. People are attracted by this thing called money, and everthing that comes with it .. or as Morpheus used to say in the Matrix: "You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many are so hopelessly dependent on the system, they will fight to protect it". The rage or rebellion against the machine can take different forms for different people. Some propose some very original ways to deal with the future in the here and now...

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[heyokah]

What we can be certain of is that what was chosen yesterday influenced today. And that what we choose today will influence tomorrow.

Maybe our treasure is an eternal moment in a powerful now.

-

I came upon this quote. I don't know who wrote it.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2mh779s.jpg

I found out that this quote was part of a poem ......

"Dear Human:
You’ve got it all wrong.
You didn’t come here to master unconditional love.
That is where you came from and where you’ll return.

You came here to learn personal love.
Universal love.
Messy love. Sweaty love.
Crazy love. Broken love.

Whole love.
Infused with divinity.
Lived through the grace of stumbling.
Demonstrated through the beauty of… messing up.
Often.

You didn’t come here to be perfect. You already are.

You came here to be gorgeously human. Flawed and fabulous.

And then to rise again into remembering.

But unconditional love? Stop telling that story.

Love, in truth, doesn’t need ANY other adjectives.
It doesn’t require modifiers.
It doesn’t require the condition of perfection.

It only asks that you show up.
And do your best.
That you stay present and feel fully.
That you shine and fly and laugh and cry
and hurt and heal and fall and get back up
and play and work and live and die as YOU.

It’s enough.

It’s Plenty."

*

And the writer (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/09/you-came-here-to-learn-personal-love-2465430.html) (after a good search): --Courtney A. Walsh.

*

[Bill Ryan]

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I'd imagine that Socrates' answer to this question, in the Athens marketplace over 2000 years ago, would have been be to suddenly empty his questioner's bottle of wine, or basket of fruit, on to the ground and then ask them if they were responsible for their (presumably upsetting!) experience of what he'd just freely chosen to do.

:)

This is a serious question, but is complicated by the constraints of language. If the question means do we choose and create every one of our individual experiences, then the answer is No.

You have to analyze it in terms of games. Cooking a meal is a game, and so is driving to work, and so is getting married, and so is Life as a whole, including all our missions and purposes. Mountain climbing is such a game, which I know quite a lot about and used to 'play' extensively.

I am responsible for my decision to climb the mountain. I'm responsible for being well-prepared (or not), and for making my decisions about equipment, and weather, and timing, and fitness, and snow conditions, and who I'm climbing with. I alone make all those choices and judgments. No-one does that for me.

But when an avalanche, which is an unpredictable catastrophic event, suddenly takes us by surprise and kills me or my partner, then I am very likely not responsible for that. Meaning: I did not choose that to happen, and nor did I cause that to happen.

That's the unknown, unpredictable factor that's necessarily present in all games. Without unknowns, games are not worth playing. Ask any football player, chess master, or olympic athlete. There's no fun in playing out a game in which everything is 100% known in advance. To learn from playing games (and learning how to play them better) is essentially why we're here. It also makes life interesting and worthwhile in every possible sense. To have godlike control over every event in our lives would quickly get very boring indeed.

Now, it's possible that I might have had an unconscious death wish (really: I might have been depressed about the ending of a relationship, and had gone climbing to escape my unhappiness), or had maybe wanted to experience death in an avalanche so that next lifetime I might reincarnate as an avalanche safety expert.

I mean this totally seriously. We're powerful beings, and can certainly sometimes manifest events that we consciously or unconsciously wish for. Unconscious manifesting choices are a clear exception to what I wrote above. Everyone reading this will have had experiences of these.

But life and the universe are both very complex, and there are other factors operating as well.

Now, it can be useful to assume, as a personal development device, that we're responsible for events that occur to us that seem like bad news. 'Taking responsibility' in that way means that we'll not blame others, or be regretful, or hold resentments, or become self-pitying victims.

That attitudinal learning is useful to us, because it reinforces personal empowerment rather than disempowerment, and equips us to continue to manifest positively, rather than just giving up (as some people do). But the metaphysical absolute truth of whether we caused those unfortunate events is a completely different matter.

Of interest, I took Werner Erhard's est training back in 1984, and I know that a number of people reading this will also have done est (or its successor, the Landmark Forum). Werner always stated that we're all totally responsible for everything, and this was a very valuable and workable personal development device: see above. It was essentially a trainer's trick, with the trainer operating as a deliberately provocative Zen Master (very much as Werner always was).

But interestingly, the very first est trainer who led trainings apart from Werner, Stewart Emery (see his very interesting autobiographical book Actualizations (http://www.amazon.com/Actualizations-Dont-Have-Rehearse-Yourself/dp/0385131224)), resigned from est after a short time, profoundly disagreeing with Werner about this. He wrote (and this is entirely from memory):





Werner would tell people in his trainings that we were responsible for everything in our lives - every last bit of it. I still do not think that is the right thing to do.

To close, I think we have to be a little careful about making such sweeping statements in our enthusiastic metaphysical naivete. It implies to someone who has (for instance) had their their legs blown off in Iraq, or just lost a baby, or been raped, or sexually molested as a child, that they have somehow brought this upon themselves.

This may be profoundly untrue even at the highest metaphysical level, and can be extremely upsetting and invalidating. And to the millions of Jews who died together in the gas chambers in Germany in the war, the suggestion in the title of this thread shows the very greatest spiritual disrespect.

[RUSirius]

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I'd imagine that Socrates' answer to this question, in the Athens marketplace over 2000 years ago, would have been be to suddenly empty his questioner's bottle of wine, or basket of fruit, on to the ground and then ask them if they were responsible for their (presumably upsetting!) experience of what he'd just freely chosen to do.

:)

This is a serious question, but is complicated by the constraints of language. If the question means do we choose and create every one of our individual experiences, then the answer is No.

You have to analyze it in terms of games. Cooking a meal is a game, and so is driving to work, and so is getting married, and so is Life as a whole, including all our missions and purposes. Mountain climbing is such a game, which I know quite a lot about and used to 'play' extensively.

I am responsible for my decision to climb the mountain. I'm responsible for being well-prepared (or not), and for making my decisions about equipment, and weather, and timing, and fitness, and snow conditions, and who I'm climbing with. I alone make all those choices and judgments. No-one does that for me.

But when an avalanche, which is an unpredictable catastrophic event, suddenly takes us by surprise and kills me or my partner, then I am very likely not responsible for that. Meaning: I did not choose that to happen, and nor did I cause that to happen.

That's the unknown, unpredictable factor that's necessarily present in all games. Without unknowns, games are not worth playing. Ask any football player, chess master, or olympic athlete. There's no fun in playing out a game in which everything is 100% known in advance. To learn from playing games (and learning how to play them better) is essentially why we're here. It also makes life interesting and worthwhile in every possible sense. To have godlike control over every event in our lives would quickly get very boring indeed.

Now, it's possible that I might have had an unconscious death wish (really: I might have been depressed about the ending of a relationship, and had gone climbing to escape my unhappiness), or had maybe wanted to experience death in an avalanche so that next lifetime I might reincarnate as an avalanche safety expert.

I mean this totally seriously. We're powerful beings, and can certainly sometimes manifest events that we consciously or unconsciously wish for. Unconscious manifesting choices are a clear exception to what I wrote above. Everyone reading this will have had experiences of these.

But life and the universe are both very complex, and there are other factors operating as well.

Now, it can be useful to assume, as a personal development device, that we're responsible for events that occur to us that seem like bad news. 'Taking responsibility' in that way means that we'll not blame others, or be regretful, or hold resentments, or become self-pitying victims.

That attitudinal learning is useful to us, because it reinforces personal empowerment rather than disempowerment, and equips us to continue to manifest positively, rather than just giving up (as some people do). But the metaphysical absolute truth of whether we caused those unfortunate events is a completely different matter.

Of interest, I took Werner Erhard's est training back in 1984, and I know that a number of people reading this will also have done est (or its successor, the Landmark Forum). Werner always stated that we're all totally responsible for everything, and this was a very valuable and workable personal development device: see above. It was essentially a trainer's trick, with the trainer operating as a deliberately provocative Zen Master (very much as Werner always was).

But interestingly, the very first est trainer who led trainings apart from Werner, Stewart Emery (see his very interesting autobiographical book Actualizations (http://www.amazon.com/Actualizations-Dont-Have-Rehearse-Yourself/dp/0385131224)), resigned from est after a short time, profoundly disagreeing with Werner about this. He wrote (and this is entirely from memory):





Werner would tell people in his trainings that we were responsible for everything in our lives - every last bit of it. I still do not think that is the right thing to do.

To close, I think we have to be a little careful about making such sweeping statements in our enthusiastic metaphysical naivete. It implies to someone who has (for instance) had their their legs blown off in Iraq, or just lost a baby, or been raped, or sexually molested as a child, that they have somehow brought this upon themselves.

This may be profoundly untrue even at the highest metaphysical level, and can be extremely upsetting and invalidating. And to the millions of Jews who died together in the gas chambers in Germany in the war, the suggestion in the title of this thread shows the very greatest spiritual disrespect.

I cant prove it, but this is what I've always thought. How could it be that every bad thing that happened not just to me but those around me is "punishment" or "re-balancing" of karma, instantly. I'm not saying that someone else is saying this, just how I used to think about it. There has to be a "game" factor or "chance" in both the good and the bad, or else we are not much more then action-re-action robot types.

[Bill Ryan]

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Re my post above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61565-Am-I-really-responsible-for-everything-that-happens-to-me&p=707982&viewfull=1#post707982), I've just located the exact quote from Werner Erhard's former colleague Stewart Emery, the first person apart from Werner himself to be entrusted to deliver the 'training'.

The following is verbatim from The Book of est (http://www.amazon.com/The-Book-Est-Luke-Rhinehart/dp/0557306159) (by Luke Rhinehart). (Interesting stuff, by the way -- and also a great book.)






Another criticism of the training itself has more weight, especially since it has been voiced by Stewart Emery, who, from early 1973 to April 1975, was a successful est trainer—in fact, the first other than Werner to conduct a training. While Emery has acknowledged that the est training has value for almost all of the trainees, he has two criticisms: the notion that we are totally responsible for our experience is dangerous, and much of the est training is irrelevant to its success.





I personally felt that a lot of the training was nonsense.... I thought the talk about reality, about the idea that you create it all, was just a heap of nonsense, and I still think that to tell people that they create everything is not the thing to do.

It is not difficult to criticize the idea that we are all totally responsible for “reality”, for everything that happens in our universe, for napalmed babies in Vietnam or the cancer of our child, if this idea is interpreted in a superficial way—which usually means that the idea becomes a belief rather than an experience. The notion that a Vietnamese child is responsible for his experience of being napalmed, while it is a philosophically consistent and defensible position, is, as are most philosophical ideas carried to their logical extreme, not very useful. Realizing that one creates one's own experience and coming to take responsibility for one's own life seem to be two of the most valuable results of the training. Applied to extreme situations, these experiences are still valuable, but as ideas they come to seem horrible or ridiculous. It is valuable to a hypochondriac to experience that he creates his own misery. It seems horrible to say that every child caught in a burning house or every person who died at the hands of Nazis was responsible for his experience. Furthermore, responsibility should not be confused with blame. It is a liberating notion to realize that when one's apartment is “robbed” (as society views the event), one does not have to experience the event as a loss—and if one does, one can take responsibility for so experiencing it. It is a false and debilitating notion to blame oneself for being robbed.

[ROMANWKT]

when it is said WE are responsible it literally mean all of us, the I is all of us, we allowed these thing to occur, no not yourself personally but all of us, sounds weird, but all of us uphold this reality and all of us are responsible for all event here, all is a mirror effect of all of us, billions of us, and at the same time we are all one. hope one can see what I am trying to say, not easy, there is only one, and we all are it.

warmest regards

roman
ADD on: All possibilities are through us all, the good and the bad, personally or to others, within the one which means all, it all can happen, all of it ,whatever anyone thinks, adds onto the one, which mean to all of us.

[gripreaper]

Stepping back from the canvas of a single lifetime, I look at it this way.

The context of the collective dream, is to carve the body vessel in all the various refracted rainbow light frequencies, via experience, in order to be able to hold the total amplification of the entire light spectrum in a physical body, and to contrast all the frequencies and dance in unity amongst them all.

How we do this: we choose in each incarnation, which part of the light spectrum we wish to fully explore. In one lifetime, we may wish to become a farmer, work diligently in the ground, and be close to the earth. This grounds the first chakra, which is the slowest frequency, the color red in the light spectrum.

http://celestial-alchemy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/chakra-details.com_.jpg

In another lifetime, we may choose to be a warrior and fight great battles, which we experience the use of our fire in the second chakra in extreme cases, and how to generate fire quickly and meld with the sensations coming from the root, etc.

After hundreds of lifetimes and experiences, we amalgamate the light spectrum into unity and the ability to generate life force, focus it, emanate it, and create and manifest with full consciousness and empathy, for we then understand the power of the universe and our creations, as well as empathy for how our creations affect the collective.

Those who develop strong beliefs about a polarized experience in one lifetime, due to it's horrific nature, and develop archetypes, symbols and defenses, will subsequently choose on a soul level, experiences to unravel the beliefs and the karma surrounding them, in order to bring that energy back into focus. Otherwise, this energy remains disconnected, sequestered, and unavailable, which causes more entanglements.

So, to say, am I really responsible for everything which happens to me, the short answer is “yes”. All of the energetic amalgamations which converge on an experience are emanating from your energy field, drawing and attracting like energies, either unconsciously or consciously, from present awareness or past lifetime residuals.

The universe is exact and does not judge the energies which you emanate, no matter how subtle or how strong or how well hidden from your own consciousness. What determines the outcome, is how grooved, how focused, how amplified, and how intent you are, on a soul level, to bring the sequestered energy back into wholeness, that which you have built an edifice of beliefs to justify and explain, in linear context, that which is best understood in a global sense from a soul level.

Sure, we can look at someone who has just had their legs blown off in battle, and say, why did they choose that, and not get any answers. I would agree that it is not clear why certain experiences carry such maximum pain and resonate the emotions in such a profound way on a very cellular and visceral level, to be viewed as excruciating and unfathomable.

I can also say, from a soul level, once you have left the body and the experience, and you understand the wholeness of who you are as a soul, in the context of the collective dream, it is easier to accept such atrocities as being the will of the soul to experience.

I say this candidly, as I’m not totally sold on this as an absolute. What I do know, through past life regressions, is that I have had lifetimes where I wrote my truth like I am doing here today, and my hands were cut off, or I spoke my truth and was burnt alive at the stake. Here I am today speaking my truth irregardless of those experiences, and those experiences no longer hold the original energetic charge they did during those lifetimes.

Do I want to go back and carve that part of my energetic body again in such an extreme way? No thanks. Been there, done that. Once you begin to view past lives through the homeopathic dose of DNA and RNA of the original experience, they become “just experience” from a soul level, and lose the original charge. Once we let go of beliefs surrounding the horrific experience, and the original charge of the experience, we can then return to wholeness with the contrasting abilities of an empath.

We can truly say, I feel what you feel, because I once experienced the same utter horror and intensity which you describe, and therefore I have empathy for you and what you have chosen to “go through”.

[ROMANWKT]

not easy to explain, all possibilities of rape murder wars, extermination, having legs blow off, exits in the scenarios created by us where all these things can express itself by our input into the whole, your enemy is creating scenarios, and we reap the result, the enemy is you yourself as all is one, all these things can be played out and involve even children being molested, because we injected the scenario into the mirror reality, as all these deeds will express them self into our lives, we are all responsible.

roman

[gripreaper]

I would also like to add. Those who would attempt to manipulate energy in such a way as to create manifestations in duality, will ultimately experience the opposite.

Until one has fully experienced all of the polarized states in all of their maximum intensity, learned the lessons of the empath, and knows how to manifest in unity, such powers should not be used.

The abilities which are inherent in creation by an individual, the massive power we are capable of, are not to be taken lightly. Only the empath, who is in unity, can move mountains, walk on water and bi-locate and remote view and create by a mere thought. The ability to manifest on demand requires the full heart connection and full empathy. This empathy ensures that the creation will be edifying to all.

Using these abilities in an extreme polarized state of duality manifests the extreme horrific atrocities we are capable of and should not be encouraged. Yes, we are that powerful.

[Bill Ryan]

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Less seriously:

Am I really responsible for everything that happens to me?

http://cdn.jockpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Jessica-Kastrop-takes-one-on-the-head-for-skysports.gif

And, more seriously: this is an analogy to the question of whether the soldier on the battlefield is responsible for the stray bullet which kills him.

He's responsible for being there and taking the risk of getting killed (maybe unless he was drafted, but this is another issue!) -- but is not responsible for the bullet.

It's exactly the same as the mountaineer (see my post #32 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61565-Am-I-really-responsible-for-everything-that-happens-to-me&p=707982&viewfull=1#post707982) above) who takes every responsible precaution in his chosen adventure, but is still killed by a freak avalanche.

[shadowstalker]

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Less seriously:

Am I really responsible for everything that happens to me?

---> http://cdn.jockpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Jessica-Kastrop-takes-one-on-the-head-for-skysports.gif

Well if she had done any wrong in her past then that's a hell of a way to smack some one upside the head.. lol

[Fred Steeves]

Here's an interesting take on this to mull over a bit. For the sake of this discussion, let's assume a post life review is a reality. (I happen to think it is some shape or fashion, but that's neither here nor there) :)

So you've just died, and from a much higher perspective it's time for the big show. Once it's complete you are prompted to answer one simple question: "Do you take full responsibility for what you've just witnessed, or do you not?"

[greybeard]

You may not be responsible for the specifics of what happens in your life, but you are responsible for the way that you deal with what arrives.
We all have an attractor field, explained deeply in Power vs Force by the late Dr David Hawkins.
You could say what goes around comes around.
If you don’t have enough love in your life you possibly need to give more.
If life seems unfair perhaps its of identical vibration to that which you gave others.
We attract the same as we give out.
We are responsible for what we give out.

Chris

[christian]

I have used the input from this thread to write an article about this... my initial post here was just a start to get more inspiration and so on... so thank you all for that. :)

The article is here: http://beforeitsnews.com/spirit/2013/07/new-age-myths-debunked-am-i-really-responsible-for-everything-that-happens-to-me-2479872.html

[donk]

Very well done, wish I could be so eloquent. Thanks for what you do sir!

[Anchor]

... my initial post here was just a start to get more inspiration and so on... so thank you all for that. :)

I feel so used ;)

[Rich]

That is a good question, something I've been looking at for the past few months.
I don't know the answer, but when I think of something it usually happens, sometimes shortly after, sometimes a few days or weeks or even instantly. The other day I crashed my bike into a car cause Ive had that thought a week or so before, nothing bad happened just small dent in car and I had few bumps, I actually enjoyed it but the woman driver was a bit shocked (and I was too but there was no fear when it happened it was all slow motion).
I could give countless examples of thought manifesting.

Christ said something like:
This world and our thoughts are made of the same energy it's the same.

ACIM:


My Self is ruler of the universe.

It is impossible that anything should come to me unbidden by myself.
Even in this world, it is I who rule my destiny. What happens is what I desire. What does not occur is what I do not want to happen. This must I accept.

'Lester Levenson said, think only of what you want and that is all you would have, never have thought of what you don't want.'

[BrandoComando]

Here is my view on the subject.

Nobody is responsible for anything that's ever happened to them and we certainly don't create the situations we are in. This can be verified by doing some simple thought experiments. For instance, try to predict the next image that is going to pop into your head. Close your eyes and try to predict your next thoughts. You may find that it's impossible because thoughts just seem to happen on their own mostly randomly. Another experiment in to close your eyes and try to figure out where thoughts come from. Where do they go? Why this thought and not a different thought? The conscious choices we make, the plans we make and the actions we take that require conscious effort are a result of thoughts that we do not control. If you believe that you can control your thoughts then whatever you do do not imagine a pink elephant. See, what happens? It's impossible not to think of a pink elephant because you cannot control your thoughts. Thoughts are what tell us that we are responsible for things we do as a result of thought.

Let's go even deeper and ask 'who are the thoughts happening to exactly?'. Is it not thoughts that make up who we think we are? In reality thoughts are not happening to anybody, they are happening but there is nobody responsible and nobody to claim them except more thought. Thoughts happen the same way life happens....spontaneously. Just like the beating of the heart or the breathing of the lungs happens without anyone actually doing it. Nobody taught us how to circulate our blood, it just happens. Nobody taught us how to see or hear, it just happens. Nobody is responsible. There really is no "you" or "I" fundamentally. In reality there is just life happening spontaneously as one single movement which we tend to perceive as being separate objects and people will free will and intent.

Anyways, that's how I see things. :)

[Rich]

Yes Brando it always depends on our definitions - where we look from.
It is the same question of ''is there a choice or no choice?'' both is true depending on what we mean by it.

This is a very good video from Bashar about manifesting:
xaIpIE203Js

small quote from the video:
What you need to do to see that you're a perfect manifestor is focus on how you are manifesting or why you are manifesting what it is you are manifesting.

And now you've gotten a handle on the mechanism underlying the reasons why you are experiencing what you are experiencing, and all of this comes down to believe, definition.