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Nanoo Nanoo
28th July 2013, 21:57
Just doing some research and found this. If you dont have an effective filtration device boiling and catching the steam is best method. Standard fluoride has a boiling point of 180 deg c and Sodium Fluoride which is even more lethal has boiling point of over 1500 c

here is an extract

Calcium neutralizes fluoride bioavailability in a lethal model of fluoride poisoning.

Heard K, Hill RE, Cairns CB, Dart RC.


Source

Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center, Denver, Colorado, USA. Kennon.Heard@UCHSC.edu


Abstract


OBJECTIVES:

Acute systemic fluoride poisoning can result in systemic hypocalcemia, cardiac dysrhythmias, and cardiovascular collapse. Topical and intraarterial therapy with calcium or magnesium salts reduces dermal injury from fluoride burns. The mechanism of these therapies is to bind and inactivate the fluoride ion. The purpose of this study is to evaluate the effect of calcium and magnesium to decrease the bioavailability of fluoride in a lethal model of fluoride poisoning.

METHODS:

In preliminary studies, we determined that fluoride 3.6 mM/kg intraperitoneally in the form of sodium fluoride was uniformly and rapidly fatal in a mouse model. Using this fluoride dose, we performed a controlled, randomized, blinded study of low- and high-dose calcium chloride (1.8 and 3.6 mM/kg intraperitoneally, respectively) and magnesium sulfate (3.6 mM/kg intraperitoneally) to decrease the bioavailability of the fluoride ion. After injection with sodium fluoride, animals were immediately treated with injections of sodium chloride (control), calcium chloride (low- or high-dose), or magnesium sulfate. The major outcome was 6-hour survival using a Cox Proportional Hazard model.

RESULTS:

All untreated animals died within 60 minutes. Using a Cox Proportional Hazard model, each 1.8 mM/kg dose of calcium chloride administered reduced the risk of death by 33%. Magnesium sulfate treatment was not associated with a hazard reduction.

CONCLUSION:

Calcium chloride administered simultaneously with sodium fluoride reduces the bioavailability of fluoride poisoning in a mouse model. The equivalent dose of magnesium sulfate does not significantly decrease fluoride bioavailability.


scource : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11527228

It seems Calcium chloride is good to have on hand totrat water supplies.

be safe and healthy

N

bennycog
28th July 2013, 23:13
calcium chloride

http://www.drugs.com/pro/calcium-chloride.html

DO NOT use Calcium Chloride Intravenous Infusion if:
you are allergic (hypersensitive) to calcium salts or any of the ingredients of Calcium Chloride Intravenous Infusion (see section 6)
you are taking medicines for heart problems (e.g. digitalis)
you have low calcium levels due to kidney problems
you have an excess of calcium present in either your blood or your urine
you have breathing problems

Take special care with Calcium Chloride Intravenous Infusion if:
you have kidney problems
you have heart problems you suffer from an inflammatory disorder known as sarcoidosis.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/298211-what-is-calcium-chloride-used-for-in-food/
Calcium chloride is somewhat similar structurally to table salt but contains calcium instead of sodium. If you live in a snow-prone area, you most likely see the substance every winter in the form of the salt sprinkled on the streets and sidewalks to prevent snow and ice buildup. This use stems from calcium chloride's hygroscopic nature, meaning it absorbs water and then dissolves into it. It has an extremely salty taste. In food, it generally acts as a preservative that helps soft foods maintain their shape but also is used in the preparation of a few specific food items.


"It looks as though it is best taken Intravenously, and is used for de-icing and concrete works. Ill wait till I here of somebody trying it till I give it a go :)
I think rain water might still be our best bet for now with less fluoride consumption, if you can collect it. I know there are heaps of chemicals bonded into the clouds to fall with the rain. But I still think it is the better one. "

Shannow
10th August 2013, 09:18
My town recently switched to fluoridation under pressure and funding from TPTB to do so...water now tastes like a chemical soup, which everyone noticed before they stopped noticing, and the dangerous goods depot at the water treatment plant is technically illegal, as they don't mark the site, the fill points, or the tanks correctly...

Our bottled water bill is nuts, but I won't give that crap to my children.

A technique that I have read about, and it's in the SHTF toolkit is to make Calcium acetate from dried egg shells and vinegar, then add a few drops to fluoridated water to bomb out the CaF2, only use the top.

tastes bad in general...

Sith73
10th August 2013, 14:54
There are some filter systems out there that remove fluoridation.

nomadguy
12th August 2013, 03:48
here is another possible solution,
Removal of fluoride from drinking water by natural stilbite zeolite modified with Fe(III) (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011916411003365)

Nanoo Nanoo
13th August 2013, 22:58
nice thanks


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