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Fred Steeves
30th July 2013, 22:42
This is something I've been pondering for some time, and now I'm going to toss it out there. :)

This concerns virtually everything we talk about here: The Illuminati, NWO, Archons, etc., all the things we love to hate. Or the rabbit holes we love to dive down: Conspiracy, false flags, psychological warfare, forbidden history, U.F.O.'s, free energy, wanderers and walk-ins, OOBE's, etc.

True that it's important to keep one's self informed on all these and much more, and I do myself as well of course. What concerns me more and more though, is how easily we tend to get fixated on them. It greatly reminds me of the bones the general population is tossed to chew on (politics, religion, etc.), to keep them distracted. What we talk about seems like just a higher level of all that.

As Einstein said: "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it". So here's the way I'm seeing it now, short and sweet. If our natural state is Creators, then we have created this "Alice In Wonderland" maze for ourselves (for whatever reason).

That would necessarily mean that this wild ride was/is our own brain child, and moving on with things is also completely up to us, each individual in their due time to eventually figure out. If at the start our consciousness was fractured into tiny splinters to create this, then those little splinters can also come on back home to roost. (Once we desire it to be so)

That mental and spiritual process may take a while to actually complete once begun in earnest, but after all is said and done, the whole thing might just well have been a round trip journey in your (my) head.

And here's the kicker: We may well wind up more tearfully grateful for the experience than we can ever possibly imagine. Food for thought anyway...

Cheers,

Fred

aranuk
30th July 2013, 23:16
I don't quite see where you are coming from/going to with this Fred. Maybe you could explain, if you wish. :noidea:

Stan

Wind
30th July 2013, 23:43
Knowledge... In a way I am hooked into searching more and more information everyday, because I have always wanted to know the truth about our existence. However, sometimes I get a feeling that I'm just being overloaded with all kind of information and then usually I go into the nature and just relax and allow myself to be... Quite often I feel that I carry the burden of the world on my shoulders. At the end of the day I think that I know so much about things that not too many people do know of, but yet I'm very humble about it and I think that I barely know anything at all. It would be so easy to be ignorant. But...

ER6uv2xtuCg

RunningDeer
30th July 2013, 23:48
Some of those head trips are long and some are not.

I figured out the more creative one is, the easier and the harder it is to get un-tripped. That is, unless I grease the wheels in my favor.

Good news though. (Always ends in good news.) Once I see it, the rest is smooth ridin’. Got the keys ‘n’ tossed out the GPS. The lighter the travel and less fill ups required. Beep-beep.

......................Going, going, gone ...............................http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/biker-smiley-face.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

spiritguide
31st July 2013, 00:21
The hardest part of the trip called life is knowing which plane of existance we should rely on, Spiritual or Material. Our minds are like oil filters, when they plug up the lubrication job breaks down. When it is changed according to instructions it preserves lubrication and healthy life of the unit. Change is constant, be part of it or be subject to it. When one's mind plugs up, one can change it. IMHO

Peace!

meeradas
31st July 2013, 01:30
I don't quite see where you are coming from/going to with this Fred. Maybe you could explain, if you wish. :noidea:

Stan

Isn't he quite clear? Well, i might be wrong.
We're weaving at the outermost layer with all our "threads", maintaining it, keeping it intact... Circling, whilst we should be spiraling... Up, inwards.

Time off of the info stuffing is a valuable and needed investment - quite underestimated.
Digestion, assimilation, discarding the "crap"... Giving yourself a break to do that.


My most relaxing time is off the web - no weaving going on; diving deeper gets a chance, and some space opens up.

Taking a break, now.

sigma6
31st July 2013, 03:58
The hardest part of the trip called life is knowing which plane of existance we should rely on, Spiritual or Material.

We know it is spiritual, the hard part is "detaching" from all this "physicality" which is itself a manifestation of that very energy, or chi, or spirit, you speak of... that's what makes life a "game" and every man a fool. (well almost every man...) Trapped by our limitation of perception, largely imposed by a matrix of misinformation, in case any one even dare to ask or inquire regarding all the "non-sense" out there that makes almost no sense to a logical mind. An affront to every rationale conscious attempt to seek truth...

Those who rule by deception, will eventually pay the price. The universe itself in its infinite intelligence, the very expression of love embodied in reality, will carry it out if need be... the only question left is where do we all stand? Are you in harmony with that immutable universal principle? or against it? or is your head in the sand?

The ending to the movie Oblivion comes to mind... which actually did hit on a powerful philosophical issue. That being... The most important thing is to die well. hmm...

Now why is that? How would one actually embrace that? hmm... I like the symmetry, the focus it brings back to the life you have (while you are still alive and breathing...) hmm...

Seems there are always two camps... which camp are you in, what path are you on... the razor's edge

mosquito
31st July 2013, 04:14
Hmmm, I know what you mean Fred. We seem to spend too much time discussing the world's problems rather than getting on with life and creating something better. As Meeradas said - I feel much more tranquil and connected when I'm offline, and in nature (importantly) than when online.

It's a problem I've noticed for over 10 years now - I can get myself into a wonderful state of consciousness/awareness but find myself completely knocked off balance by the world/the system. There is so much going on that I cannot change, most of it is stuff that I've intuitively predicted in the past, and I find that just by KNOWING it's happening, I get distracted from the inner work. Then of course, when I'm in Zen mode, I get frustrated by the need to act !!!!

Can't bloody win :rolleyes:

william r sanford72
31st July 2013, 15:12
i have been getting a lott full circle coming back around again kinda things going down with in and outward latly.seems i wasnt and still have a ways to go..with the dance.my main partner seems to be me.this very profound truth..hasnt changed.thats the 1 constant in all this.thank you source..love..light.for making a broken man see the light one more time.and giving me chance to become who i really am..whoever that be.

WhiteFeather
31st July 2013, 15:13
Yes we are all co-creators and doing so through consciousness. Being stationed here in the best school in the Universe known as Planet Earth is an incredible learning experience unto itself.. Its all a human experience, isnt it. This tune rang a Bell, the singer mentions this topic of your post. A round trip journey in your head.

Peace to you my friend. Im having a great experience on Earth so far. I suggest you try the Roller Coaster when you get a chance. I just got off of it..... : )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw

Ron Mauer Sr
31st July 2013, 16:44
That mental and spiritual process may take a while to actually complete once begun in earnest, but after all is said and done, the whole thing might just well have been a round trip journey in your (my) head.

And here's the kicker: We may well wind up more tearfully grateful for the experience than we can ever possibly imagine. Food for thought anyway...

What is this physical experience all about?

A game or drama of our own creation it may all be. I've seen myself in a dream, watching a play on stage. Suddenly I would be relocated to a different seat in the audience. As the dream ended, I realized that I was the actor on stage, and also was each person in the audience, each person watching the drama from a different perspective. Maybe this experience is all a creation born of boredom in some other reality.

Another clue to the (my) answer may be my reaction and addiction to the Atari Pac Man game many years ago. The peak excitement when the ghosts got so close and always killed me was quite a rush. Never won the game, but I was determined to not give up. Maybe we (me) are here for the thrill of the ride.

Perhaps some of us may be natural trouble makers who love to project ourselves into systems of darkness, to shine light on the control freaks and help the local residents in some unknown way. Our calling card could be:


Renegade System Busters
On Call for Transformational Services


Perhaps we (I) don't like rules established for behavior and we greatly value independent thinking, and always question reality.

Wish I knew the answer. But if higher self is similar to little ol' physical me, I would have arranged for assistance, irregardless of rules, as I played the game. I say to hell with the rules and limitations.

I know what I want for myself and everyone else who chooses:



Truth
Freedom
Well being
Joy
The ability to pop into and out of any reality, visit anyone, any animal, any place I have ever loved, for as long as I choose, and do it on my command.



I want answers to all my questions, and I want it now.

genevieve
31st July 2013, 18:33
I've recently come across an explanation of how this universe has been set up, and it seems reasonable to me.


My interpretation: First Source/Creator/God/Yaweh/etc. desired to experience duality. Parts of First Source agreed to explore it. The agreement/contract was that when we finally understood that we are all part of First Source and that a contract was in play, the duality experience could end because the contract had been fulfilled.


This is where we are now at. The contract has been fulfilled, and some very tuned-in people recognized this after years of research. They filed legal documents stating that the contract has been fulfilled and that we are now free to BE and DO as we please as long as we do no harm to others. The filings are unrebutted.


The significance of the legal filings is that this entire planet has been usurped by a corporate legal system operated by our "partners in contrast." The filings declare the duality game is over and everyone on the planet is now answerable only to First Source, and nothing can rightfully come between us and First Source. No corporation has the right to tell us what to do (all levels of government everywhere on Earth are corporations).


I've been wrapping my mind around this for the last five months and watching developments. The filings are having an IMPACT.


I urge everyone to check out what started as the One People's Public Trust (OPPT) for the purposes of filing the documents. For more info:


http://understandingtheoppt.info/index.shtml (basic info)
http://i-uv.com/oppt-absolute/ (more basic info--on main site)
http://i-uv.com/ (main site)


Fred, the problem has been solved at a higher level than it exists. This wild ride WAS our own brain child, and moving on with things IS completely up to us.

PLEASE check this info out.


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
Genevieve

Fred Steeves
31st July 2013, 20:48
I don't quite see where you are coming from/going to with this Fred. Maybe you could explain, if you wish. :noidea:


Hey there Stan, nice seeing you around again. :yes4: The old country song "lookin for love in all the wrong places" comes to mind. Those places aren't necessarily bad (and I've wallowed in them with the best of em LOL), but the trick seems to be not fixating on them.

Let's say someone has an OOBE, alien contact, a profound psychic experience, a momentary enlightenment, discovers free energy, or any number of other things regularly discussed here. Those are all wonderful experiences, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, but it's so darn tempting to want to repeat one over and over once it's happened. Or, to fixate on having one in the first place. Either way they can quickly become a distraction, thus sidetracking our ultimate journey of realizing just who and what we really are.

Of note: Conspiracy research ranks right up there with the rest of them.

So anyway, these things also double as clues, but whether they become a distraction or a clue is up to the individual. Like going on a long road trip, it's fine and dandy to pull off and partake in something interesting here and there, so long as we don't forget we have an ultimate destination that needs tending to.

That's the way I see it anyway. :)

aranuk
31st July 2013, 21:06
I don't quite see where you are coming from/going to with this Fred. Maybe you could explain, if you wish. :noidea:


Hey there Stan, nice seeing you around again. :yes4: The old country song "lookin for love in all the wrong places" comes to mind. Those places aren't necessarily bad (and I've wallowed in them with the best of em LOL), but the trick seems to be not fixating on them.

Let's say someone has an OOBE, alien contact, a profound psychic experience, a momentary enlightenment, discovers free energy, or any number of other things regularly discussed here. Those are all wonderful experiences, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, but it's so darn tempting to want to repeat one over and over once it's happened. Or, to fixate on having one in the first place. Either way they can quickly become a distraction, thus sidetracking our ultimate journey of realizing just who and what we really are.

Of note: Conspiracy research ranks right up there with the rest of them.

So anyway, these things also double as clues, but whether they become a distraction or a clue is up to the individual. Like going on a long road trip, it's fine and dandy to pull off and partake in something interesting here and there, so long as we don't forget we have an ultimate destination that needs tending to.

That's the way I see it anyway. :)

Thank you Steve! Now I see what you are getting at! You have a good point here which is deserving of dialogue and hopefully of receiving wisdom on. IMO we surely can do both but not together at the same time. In my own experience, anything I have come across which adds another piece of the jig saw puzzle to the whole picture is a good thing. Of course when I have carefully placed the piece into a connecting piece there is absolutely no point in dwelling over that piece thinking we are so clever. I normally am contented with doing it and start rumbling about looking for another piece that fits. I meditate every day, say my prayers and thank the source of all things. Study with discernment and follow my nose. I am an horary astrologer and that takes up a lot of my time also. I have grown up children and grandchildren to interact with, sometimes out of fun and sometimes out of duty. So my days are really busy and hardly any space in a day to be sidetracked into anything not worthwhile. We must also be vigilant to resist political pressure to take away what rights we have.

Cheers Fred

Stan

william r sanford72
1st August 2013, 15:58
thanks for the answer to stans question.broke it down cool like and agree my nature leads to just this..my Balance is key if i want to even consider becoming and remember who i am and could be.and by all rights should be.this lesson has been pounded into me..some how i survived..and yet i still need to be reminded..and always on guard..constant self stalking is what i just read on another post couple days ago.thank you fred. this kind of reminder is much more preferd than the old way.william.

Jake
1st August 2013, 16:03
A soul set free to fly!!
A round trip journey in your head
Master of illusion, can you realize
Your dream's alive, you can be the guide but...


I'm smiling next you you!! ;)

Mike
1st August 2013, 17:17
it's as DonJuan said, you tap your world...and then keep it movin. in other words: never get too bogged down with any one thing, be it a person, a topic of interest, or whatever.

to have an awareness of such things is enough. hyper awareness can lead to obsession, however.

like anything else, it's kind of an art form...and it's kind of elusive. it's a balance: to be aware, to keep one's head out of the sand...but to not panic or become too obsessed. deep down we all know how well or how poorly we are performing in this little game.

it's very zen. I think humor helps. I think it's the key, actually.

i'm not entirely convinced we're *supposed* to remedy or solve such mysteries like Ufo's, NWO, Archons, the sorry state of the world etc...I think Dennis will hang me by my belt if he reads this, and I can certainly understand why. but when faced with the sheer magnitude of obstacles on this planet earth today, I can't help but notice that we're in a check mate position in almost every direction we look. perhaps the true spiritual test is how well you react *in relation* to all these things, not in how you struggle futilely to change them. we can resign ourselves to pessimism, or we can laugh! these seem to be the only 2 choices.

that round trip in our heads may very well be a self prescribed test. sometimes what matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

eaglespirit
1st August 2013, 17:29
Just tunin' in with my recent tidbit, Fred...different space same rhythm...

We CAN get there from here because it already IS, just a matter of timelessness now : )

...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=709755&viewfull=1#post709755

Fred Steeves
1st August 2013, 19:42
it's as DonJuan said, you tap your world...and then keep it movin. in other words: never get too bogged down with any one thing, be it a person, a topic of interest, or whatever.

to have an awareness of such things is enough. hyper awareness can lead to obsession, however.

like anything else, it's kind of an art form...and it's kind of elusive. it's a balance: to be aware, to keep one's head out of the sand...but to not panic or become too obsessed.

Yep, old Don Juan (whether real or fictional) had a way of getting right down to the root of matters didn't he? The main reason I only keep maybe 10% of the dozens of books I've devoured out for perusal, is because after some time a certain awareness sets in (if we're paying attention) that their validity is testable by continual observation of our reality. Awareness without obsession is certainly a key knack to acquire, and it's a tightrope act.

The other important thing Don Juan stressed, the art of stalking, also ties into the theme of this thread. He's not talking about stalking outside things of course, he's talking about stalking one's self. The more understanding we have of ourselves, warts and all, the more understanding we will have of the universe at large. I'm *borderline* obsessive in stalking myself, so there too is that old tight rope act. (LOL)


deep down we all know how well or how poorly we are performing in this little game.

Very true. The more we stalk, the more we see when our performance is not up to snuff. Like you said humor helps, and is actually quite key.


i'm not entirely convinced we're *supposed* to remedy or solve such mysteries like Ufo's, NWO, Archons, the sorry state of the world etc...I think Dennis will hang me by my belt if he reads this, and I can certainly understand why.

I'll pm him immediately. :)

sleepy
2nd August 2013, 13:17
xxxxx xxxxx

CD7
2nd August 2013, 15:28
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it"



Love tht quote! So true!! I think thts why a lot of us on here are trying to steer/change consciousness in a different direction for ourselves and others. Changing altering a Law tht can work for us verses against us is the dream. ITs PRETTY MUCH ALL I THINK ABOUT EVERY DAY--most times all day


And I do understand wht u mean about
"It greatly reminds me of the bones the general population is tossed to chew on (politics, religion, etc.), to keep them distracted. What we talk about seems like just a higher level of all that".


It does appear tht way in a lot of instances....continually chewing on bones and NEVER really being fed. Also a great quote--- definition of insanity-do the same thing over and over and over again EXPECTING the same result--seems we, the whole planet, suffers from insanity----break in the clouds---when the insanity ceases and a different "consciousness" DOING IT DIFFERENTLY occurs

Shadowman
5th August 2013, 06:12
Hi Fred,

Great OP, and great thread title. To focus our attention on the play of shadows necessarily requires that we have our back to the light. Such is the case in the Plato's Cave Allegory.

Upon turning to face the light, and realising it to be the ever present source, we attain the peace/bliss of the Sun/Ocean, that is untroubled/unafraid by the coming and going of the shadows/waves.

The difficulty is that the shadows have been taken for reality for so long, and capture the interest of the mind so intensely, with everything from tragedy to comedy, that it is hard to convince people to consistently focus their attention on "the light".

And perhaps the greatest tool to prevent awakening, employed by those with a vested interest, be it in politics, exopolitics or religion, underlies many of the topics you mentioned in the OP, namely fear.

It is the mind which creates the illusion of (identification with) the shadows/waves, and it is through the mind that fear is created. Hence meditation, or focusing on the light, is simply resting in awareness and treating all that arises in the mind with equanimity.

Like Buddha under the Bodhi tree, or Jesus tempted by the devil (adversary - that which opposes through division) in the desert, transcendence of the mind is assured by consistently focusing on, or abiding in awareness, thereby breaking the powerful illusion of separation, or the "round trip journey in your head",

Cheers,
tim

ulli
5th August 2013, 09:59
The round trip journey through the head is ok as long as there is an occasional detour through the heart.

Spiral
5th August 2013, 11:03
Its not a round trip because you are never going to end up where you set off, you will be a changed person.

My personal experience is one of going through clear stages, the last one is where it all just "plateaus" out, the nerves & head spin & fear all just calm down & its just about keeping up & seeing through the psy-ops & brainwashing of the MSM & greater societal paradigm.

CdnSirian
5th August 2013, 11:41
There is so much going on that is creative and productive and problem solving but never hits the news. So it is easy to get over-focused on the exposure of all the "bad" stuff. Corralled nicely with the smart and smarter people.

I haven't slept so maybe I didn't articulate that.

:ranger:

jiminii
5th August 2013, 11:45
well imagine the static. it is everything there ever was and is created. And so those pieces that broke off is kind of like a individuation of beings that are all powerful and all knowing, but they have NO EXPERIENCE. so they come up with some kind of work around to, (the pieces that broke off from the main static) be able to create universes of various types. It is a never ending and never limiting thing we are all operating in. It just gets bigger with more creations forever. SO here we have the reptilians right along with the scientists along with the perverts along with the angels along with the sadist along with every kind of creation you can possibly come up with all here playing this game for the ultimate survival of everything.

So the Retilians and all Negative Dark beings are also created by pieces that came out of the same static. There is NO RULES. But people tend to think there is. They think this static has some kind of Rule system. No it doesn't. The rules of the universes we created are all created by us. All of the players each and everyone of them created their part of this game too. And ALL of them are trying for the total optimum survival they can possible achieve. The Reptilians look at us like we look at ants. We could just stamp out the live of the ants very easily without thinking anything is wrong with that. They invaded our territory so we just stamp them out. Now these Reptilians operate off one central mind that controls a lot of GE's (genetic Entities that can create and operate a reptilian body) but all controlled by the main Queen of these soldiers you might call them. So what I learned most from going through all this fantasies of things like Christianity promising us total freedom if we JUST commit ourselves to them. Well the Devil (that people think exist) has the same quest, to get everyone on his side.

but the final analogy was this, ONLY I CAN GET ME OUT OF THIS MESS. ... there just is NOT a GOD or CREATOR up there that will do it. If there WAS a GOD up there in our star systems then why doesn't he come down here and pull us out of this trap? He can't you see because he DOESN'T want to be TRAPPED himself. So being that Heaven and Hell is all created by the Persians to control the people and all this other disinformation we have, what do we have left????

Well I was lucky. Somehow I always KNEW I was not stuck in this trap even though I was in it. I played it out. I found out who I was and I also found out where I came from brand new out of the static from some future time. I found this game quite amazing.

It has every type of person coming into it from their OWN THINK. The Rich thinking if they don't do what they do the populations will run them over. the Reptilians with their own agenda, all of it.

And I am sitting here KNOWING I AM FREE FROM IT. I just KNOW IT. I've had my wishes to get all the others there too. But I can see that will eventually happen too, and is happening as I speak. These power beings that finally got together after trillions of years of games that never ended decided it was time to change it for REAL. They have MUCH MORE KNOWINGNESS than we do about the ENTIRE TRACK, and I am amazed at how clever they have been playing this game from the future. It was something I never thought of, until it finally hit me right in the face.

I love it. The entire thing is the most amazing game I have ever seen. From childhood to now, from the most innocent to the most incredible I would have never at the age of 5 thought it would have turned out like this. And each of us get through it. We are constantly HIT with forces that will do us in at any moment and we somehow get through it.

I wouldn't trade this game for any other though it has been one of the most painful and difficult to ever experience. I could have let all this negativity cave me in but I didn't. I held my ground. I will hold it until it is done. I will see us freed from this MONSTER this year. That is what my postulate is.

jim