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Maia Gabrial
6th August 2013, 14:16
Hope this hasn't been posted yet. I received this from 2012thebigpicture about how much the US wants Snowden returned to their loving arms. They EVEN promised not to torture him or give him the death penalty! How about that?
I didn't know about this letter until now. Thank goodness the Russian government has some scruples because I don't believe a word the US government says. There ARE things WORSE than death---particularly at the hands of the Illuminati. It wouldn't be the first time Holder lied. Department of Justice????
US Letter "says" Leaker Won't Face Death Penalty
Putin has so many bargaining chips now over Snowden. He can sit, take the moral high ground, and play serious politics over this.
Read about the rest here:http://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/author/2012thebigpicture/
Isn't it funny how Holder still hasn't faced the fast and furious charges...?
Jake
6th August 2013, 16:03
Holder should not be commenting an a single thing. He needs to admit wrong doing and step down immediately!!! Justice is not his department. Holder wrote the letter (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/27/us/27holder-letter-russian-justice-minister.html?_r=1&) to the Minister of Justice in Russia. (Holder was an Attorney for the Army, he is a former Judge, and has a history of prosecuting politicians for scandals.) He sites constitutional law to the minister of justice in Russia??? He may as well walk right up and slap him in the face!
"WE PROMISE NOT TO KILL AND/OR TORTURE HIM!!!" ?????
(innocent until proven guilty??) He is already guilty in the eyes of American leaders. Any American court that looks into this matter will be full of kangaroos!! Just like the kangaroo court that 'investigated' holden for the 'fast/furious' scandal.
What a doggle!
I am a big Snowden fan... I may vote in the next election, just so I can Write in EDWARD SNOWDEN. Yes,, the SNOWDEN/MANNING ticket!!! :)
Ba-ba-Ra
6th August 2013, 16:48
Perhaps if you listen to some of the Russ Tice (NSA whistleblower back in 2005) interviews (they're all over youtube and I think some posted here) you will understand why the USA so desperately wants Snowden back. Tice talked about who the NSA was focusing on in the early 2000's. It wasn't the average citizen, it was all the politicians, Supreme Court judges, etc. NSA has the goods on them - and I expect they fear that Snowden might release what he knows about THEM. Watch the members in Congress who are squealing the most about Snowden and then you will see who's worried about their past coming out.
Tice said that NSA was focusing on a 'little known politician' from Ohio and he didn't understand why at the time. Of course, that little known politician is now our president. So NSA has a lot of goods on him and he an Holder know it.
Plus I might add that them keeping the focus on the Traitor aspect of Snowden is keeping the focus away from what he's released.
spiritguide
6th August 2013, 18:27
In case you all forgot here is a brief history for Holder.
“Fast and Furious” – Is Eric Holder Haunted by the Ghost of Timothy McVeigh?
By: cmndr45 (Diary) | June 13th, 2012 at 11:35 AM | 0
History has taught us that what we don’t know CAN kill us. Pearl Harbor. The 9/11 attacks. The election of Barak Obama. And now we have the “Fast and Furious” scandal, which is currently embroiling Obama’s inept and corrupt Attorney General, Eric Holder. But will the “Fast and Furious” calamity eventually evoke a creepy feeling of deja vu?
In the following excerpt from www.keenobserver.blogtownhall.com Rich Sabatini seems to have uncovered some interesting connections between “Fast and Furious” and, of all things, the Oklahoma City bombing. Apparently they had quite a few things in common, including (are you ready?) the direct involvement of the aforementioned Eric Holder:
Ask any detective: virtually all criminals can be quickly identified by their modus operandi. That is to say, they commit their crimes in a similar fashion – leaving a trail of clues that signify a distinctive methodology or way of operating.
Take Eric Holder, our beloved attorney general, for example: Remember the horrible bombing of the Alfred E. Murrah government building in 1995?
Now flash forward to the present day, where Holder is acccused of hiding the details about Fast and Furious; a gunrunning scheme whereby US guns were allowed to cross the Mexican border, to be put into the hands of drug cartels and criminals.
ALLEGATION: The common denominator in Fast and Furious and the Oklahoma City Bombing is Eric Holder.
ALLEGATION: Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder, managed an FBI operation that provided explosives to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols just prior to the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995.
It seems that quite by accident, documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue (in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit) show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder had authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, just prior to the April,1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.
Now the common denominator (modus operandi): Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols as ”bait” for a Clinton Administration undercover operation called PATCON, an acronym for Patriot Conspiracy.
As Mr. Trentadue describes it: (quote)…”PATCON was designed to infiltrate/ incite white conservative militias and/or evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”
Similarly, one of the allegations that stands out in Fast and Furious is that the Department of Justice’s covert project was designed to make it look like massive gun sales were being made to drug cartels in Mexico, so that the Obama administration could justify getting Congress to pass gun-control legislation in accordance with the Presidents agenda.
And now, government documents reveal that a similar project was made up to influence legislation and government action against citizen militias.
Like Fast and Furious, the Oklahoma City Bombing was also a Justice Department project that went awry; that it got away from the government handlers, which resulted in the mass murder at the Murrah building in Oklahoma City.
Not surprisingly, PATCON has stayed under wraps for nearly 15 years, until it was discovered by attorney Jesse Trentadue, while investigating the murder of his brother Kenneth, who had been an FBI informant who aparently “knew too much”. Thusly, he [sic - may have been] summarily executed at the hands of the Clinton Department of Justice.
After the bombing, Kenneth Trentadue was arrested, locked up, then found hanged in his cell: The verdict? Suicide.
Though an official FBI report had listed Kenneth Trentadue as having killed himself, it was obvious that he had been severely beaten and his throat cut, only a day before he was scheduled to talk to the press.
Now, I cannot personally comment on the veracity of the assertions in this commentary piece, but given that everything stated is from sources that can be investigated, it certainly should give any thinking person pause.
One would only hope that Senator Cornyn would at some point ask our Attorney General about his role in the PATCON operation…
This is the whole statement and the link is attached.
http://www.redstate.com/cmndr45/2012/06/13/fast-and-furious-ghost-of-timothy-mcveigh/
He was planted in place at justice when Obama was being groomed.
sigma6
7th August 2013, 02:37
so maybe this was all contrived, but not for the reasons we thought??? hmm... wouldn't surprise me...
Now that would make a lot of sense to me...
spiritguide
7th August 2013, 08:37
so maybe this was all contrived, but not for the reasons we thought??? hmm... wouldn't surprise me...
Now that would make a lot of sense to me...
When senior Bush was director of the CIA and president Nixon resigned and handed it over to Ford. When Ford was a congressman from west Michigan his big monetary supporters were the owners of Amway the largest pyramid scheme going at the time. The history of the State of Michigan is a road map to connect a lot of dots. Romney Sr. was involved there and the last candidate for the president from Rep. party hailed from there also. There is a small town south of Battle Creek that proclaims it is the original home of the republican party. Coincidence lol. Lots of dots in this historical picture. Just some history the mainstream would rather you overlook. IMHO Just look at what is happenimg there now and reflect on Detroit.
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