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RMorgan
11th August 2013, 20:40
Hey folks,

Just dropping a note to say I´m proud of you.

There was a time when people around here would buy this kind of nonsense almost instantly, but gladly, things have changed.

You guys did a pretty good and unbiased investigative job this time...Really, congratulations!

I just hope that the people behind the alternative media vehicles will start to realize that the public is tired of being fed such kind of nonsense over and over again...It´s about time for them to get up of their chairs and start doing actual investigative journalism, instead of feeding fabricated sensationalist news just for the sake of keeping their businesses running.

Cheers,

Raf.

SilentFeathers
11th August 2013, 22:28
Hey folks,

Just dropping a note to say I´m proud of you.

There was a time when people around here would buy this kind of nonsense almost instantly, but gladly, things have changed.

You guys did a pretty good and unbiased investigative job this time...Really, congratulations!

I just hope that the people behind the alternative media vehicles will start to realize that the public is tired of being fed such kind of nonsense over and over again...It´s about time for them to get up of their chairs and start doing actual investigative journalism, instead of feeding fabricated sensationalist news just for the sake of keeping their businesses running.

Cheers,

Raf.

Hi Raf, this one was pretty much a no brainer for me....all things are possible, but this one just seems to defy logic and common sense to the extreme. Drake had a better thing going in my opinion.

Plus the prediction of earthquakes on a certain date and in a certain spot/location is quite far fetched, caused by a solar system passing between the earth and sun????!!!!, sheesh!.

Brassard is simply on a mission not to be alone for reasons unknown, and from reading to much jibberish and watching too many controversial youtube videos, convinced she herself is doomed (perhaps terminally ill) and wants everyone else to experience the feeling too for some reason.

It's easy to get drawn in to these states of mind....been there myself once or twice.

T Smith
12th August 2013, 01:07
Hey folks,

Just dropping a note to say I´m proud of you.

There was a time when people around here would buy this kind of nonsense almost instantly, but gladly, things have changed.

You guys did a pretty good and unbiased investigative job this time...Really, congratulations!

I just hope that the people behind the alternative media vehicles will start to realize that the public is tired of being fed such kind of nonsense over and over again...It´s about time for them to get up of their chairs and start doing actual investigative journalism, instead of feeding fabricated sensationalist news just for the sake of keeping their businesses running.

Cheers,

Raf.

The thing is:

This is nature of disinformation. Just as those before her and others to come, Pattie Brassard plays a deliberate role in obscuring the truth. This will not be the last time a so-called insider, whether a conscious agent or unwitting asset of a greater disinformation campaign, comes forward to disclose specific (dis)information about a greater truth. This is but the latest doomsday scenario from a seemingly credible source about the coming of the second sun. Each time the threat becomes more nonsensical and thus the premise becomes more mythological and more dismissive by default.

The premise is real and we should not be complacent. I agree this is nonsense, but we should only come to our conclusions after serious consideration and critical discernment. Once we begin accepting as a premise the nonsense, we succumb to the psyops.

SilentFeathers
12th August 2013, 01:31
Always remenber that 99.999999999% of people that claim to be insiders are actually outsiders, looking in and trying to convince others of their perspective and that it is the one and only perspective.

The whole Snowden episope is probably BS too, he probably said "No" to something and that's what the whole scandal is all about.

This Brassard episode is not even close to being from an insider, it's a delusion based on fear in hope of attracting companionship....

christian
12th August 2013, 05:58
Mel Fabregas reflected on the interview... have not listened to it yet.

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araucaria
12th August 2013, 06:28
Mel justifies his decision to air the interview immediately on the basis of the possibility of saving lives and of time being of the essence. I think most people around here will have had no trouble with that. However he is worried at the boy crying wolf effect. We can only deter boys from crying wolf by giving them the treatment described by Raf:


Hey folks,

Just dropping a note to say I´m proud of you.

There was a time when people around here would buy this kind of nonsense almost instantly, but gladly, things have changed.

You guys did a pretty good and unbiased investigative job this time...Really, congratulations!

I just hope that the people behind the alternative media vehicles will start to realize that the public is tired of being fed such kind of nonsense over and over again...It´s about time for them to get up of their chairs and start doing actual investigative journalism, instead of feeding fabricated sensationalist news just for the sake of keeping their businesses running.

Cheers,

Raf.

Edit: More specifically, Mel complained, what have transgender issues got to do with this? As the person who first raised this point on this thread, let me explain. It has absolutely nothing to do with the content of a person’s message. It can be a major distraction for people listening; this is unfortunate and I apologize if apologies are called for. It is a disadvantage of radio: you concentrate on the voice; but as Paula pointed out, the ensuing cognitive dissonance could/can also be used as a weapon.

Hazel
12th August 2013, 07:31
For the record.. when I said in an earlier thread: "its in her voice" (referring to Pattie), I was listening in and to my meaning, was sensing beyond her transgender aspect. I work in the mental health field and believe I have some honed instincts in action.

And I too applaud the strong representation throughout this thread of objectivity and 'fair play'...

Billy
12th August 2013, 12:38
As i mentioned in my previous post here i really felt for the Woman. When i listened to the interview I could feel a very troubled soul that had been to hell and back. So much so that compassion welled up within me.

I understand she tried not to mix her science with her own personal spiritual beliefs, But her personal beliefs mixed with scientific "potentials" ruined any scientific information she was trying to share.

The updated interview tomorrow may be worth a listen.

Peace

Gardener
12th August 2013, 23:22
I trust Mel, and I can see why he felt the need to follow the interview up with this clip. His words are true, nothing can be discounted until evidence and data disprove it no matter how unlikely.

It would be the crime of the era if false testimony were to distract from a genuine exposure of impending catastrophy to human kind, merely by discrediting the false testimony and humanity turned away from a dire warning with 'here we go again, another nut on a pedestal'.

With the current treatment of whistleblowers by some governments there is already much less chance of someone coming forward under the threat of arrest and imprisonment, coupled with cries of 'wolf' from either government intelligence or simple lone nut, we are left with little else other than discernment.

My current thoughts on this problem are that absolutely nothing should be discarded as utter rubish, and more than anything to look at each item of information on its own merits based on available data. I think this has happened here but there is always room for some doubt. Once we stop doubting we are too enamoured of our own self importance to be objective.

Soda
13th August 2013, 17:10
Pattie Brassard will be on Pete Santilli's radio show at 1:30 pm EST (21 minutes from time of this post)
Listen Live @ http://guerillamedianetwork.com/
Please note that Mr. Santilli uses adult language quite often. His sense of humor is considered offensive and radical by many. However, I am pretty confident he will behave himself during the segment with Pattie.

SilentFeathers
13th August 2013, 18:34
Pattie Brassard will be on Pete Santilli's radio show at 1:30 pm EST (21 minutes from time of this post)
Listen Live @ http://guerillamedianetwork.com/
Please note that Mr. Santilli uses adult language quite often. His sense of humor is considered offensive and radical by many. However, I am pretty confident he will behave himself during the segment with Pattie.

I'm listening to this interview and Pattie is on a role today!

It's better than the soaps or the Dr. Phil show!

She's now claiming Queen Elizabeth stepped down and is in an underground base in Denver and will make an announcement about herself stepping down yet today.....intergalatic beings are on their way to Earth to rid us of the reptilians, etc etc etc......quite the interesting conversation! :)

Gardener
13th August 2013, 19:07
Well well it seems the vatican closed too............................. so its not all bad.:tape2:

BrianEn
13th August 2013, 20:45
If the whole world was destroyed we could have a meet up on the other side. In The Avalon Gardens. Just a left turn from the front of The Akashic Records Building.

RunningDeer
14th August 2013, 00:14
Pattie is on now @ Freedomslips.com Studio/Schedule B, Steven D. Kelley, 8:00 - 10:00 p.m. (EST), Tuesday slot.

http://www.freedomslips.com/hifihome/schedule-b.htm

RunningDeer
14th August 2013, 00:55
Pattie is on now @ Freedomslips.com Studio/Schedule B, Steven D. Kelley, 8:00 - 10:00 p.m. (EST), Tuesday slot.

http://www.freedomslips.com/hifihome/schedule-b.htm

:bump: One more hour with Pattie after this 5 minute break. :wave:

Lone Bean
14th August 2013, 14:19
Well, I'm currently listening to the Patti Brassard interview from yesterday
http://guerillamedianetwork.com/episode-494-magnitude-15-pacific-rim-earthquake-imminent/
and so far she's saying that the Vatican has closed down, Queen Elizabeth is now in the DUMB underneath the Denver Airport and the Reptilloids (?) are in deep doo-doo trouble for violations of a treaty made in 500 B.C. And that Fukushima was planned in order to destroy us.

Good grief. Why do I waste my time listening to this junk.........

SilentFeathers
15th August 2013, 12:52
If there is no magnitude 15 quake the 17th (this coming Saturday) I betcha Pattie says the good aliens coming to Earth to rid us of the reptilians stopped it from happening! :)

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Good grief. Why do I waste my time listening to this junk.........

I ask myself the same question!......it is better than listening to most TV shows though!

Soda
15th August 2013, 13:09
If there is no magnitude 15 quake the 17th (this coming Saturday) I betcha Pattie says the good aliens coming to Earth to rid us of the reptilians stopped it from happening! :)

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Good grief. Why do I waste my time listening to this junk.........

I ask myself the same question!......it is better than listening to most TV shows though!

Didn't she call them "reptaloids" or something like that? Can't stop laughing.

Lone Bean
15th August 2013, 13:46
It is pretty entertaining lol! I just wish she would take the cotton out of her mouth so she could be understood. Wmmff fmmph woommpff boommpfh.........If it weren't for the interviewer deciphering what she said I'd never know about the Reptilloids or all that other important stuff.

yiolas
15th August 2013, 22:57
Steven D Kelly with Pattie part 2 Revolution Radio This is the best interview yet. Especially towards the end when viewer calls are taken which give Pattie the opportunity to give many more details.
Very Interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g0-iJQL3f0

Bill Ryan
16th August 2013, 00:28
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I listened to Pattie with Pete Santilli a couple of nights ago, and could not make it beyond the first hour out of four. (Yes, someone better tell the British people that the Queen has stepped down!)

It's a shame. The astrophysical problem is almost certainly a real one (Planet X / The Second Sun / The Brown Dwarf), but with Pattie's over-zealous and poorly-articulate joining of the dots to make something that is all the wrong shape, no-one wins. Certainly not Pattie, those who have interviewed her (Santilli was way too enthusiastic), or anyone who's already buried their RV in the ground.

After hearing 'Wolf' being cried too many times, some people out there will not take any action at all when they very probably should (in a few years time, maybe). And good researchers like Andy Lloyd, Jim McCanney, and Marshall Masters will have a harder time talking to their audiences after all this has passed. All in all, and in summary, this is really not a very good thing to have happened.

bennycog
16th August 2013, 00:37
Exactly right Bill..
Most are here because we well feel it that within this life of ours we are going to see great change..
Prepping what you can is good.. but you are going to be where your needed when it happens.. Some places will be worse than others. It might be earth shattering or just in certain places.. But no matter where you are you will be affected..

Sidney
16th August 2013, 04:36
quote from Bill Ryan

with Pattie's over-zealous and poorly-articulate joining of the dots to make something that is all the wrong shape, no-one wins. Certainly not Pattie, those who have interviewed her (Santilli was way too enthusiastic), or anyone who's already buried their RV in the ground.

After hearing 'Wolf' being cried too many times, some people out there will not take any action

Bingo.. Makes perfect sense now. :)

gripreaper
16th August 2013, 05:06
Pattie Brassard will be on Pete Santilli's radio show at 1:30 pm EST (21 minutes from time of this post)
Listen Live @ http://guerillamedianetwork.com/
Please note that Mr. Santilli uses adult language quite often. His sense of humor is considered offensive and radical by many. However, I am pretty confident he will behave himself during the segment with Pattie.

I'm listening to this interview and Pattie is on a role today!

It's better than the soaps or the Dr. Phil show!

She's now claiming Queen Elizabeth stepped down and is in an underground base in Denver and will make an announcement about herself stepping down yet today.....intergalatic beings are on their way to Earth to rid us of the reptilians, etc etc etc......quite the interesting conversation! :)

Well, this corroborates from another reliable source, COBRA !!! here's an excerpt!

A huge victory of the Light has been achieved on the day of the opening of the 8-8 portal. ALL negative entities from the lower mental and lower astral planes have been removed. The only remaining negative non-physical entities are now hiding within the implant hemispheres on the etheric plane.

The Resistance Movement has communicated that as the non-physical planes will be clear soon, it is of the utmost importance to reach a certain degree of harmony within the planetary liberation movement as lack of harmony there will soon be the last main remaining factor delaying the Event.

The second Window of Opportunity comes within March- April 2014 time frame. It will be triggered by the Galactic Core activation by the G2 interstellar cloud:

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

Sorry, I couldn't resist! We used to have so much fun with Drake and COBRA!

araucaria
16th August 2013, 07:33
quote from Bill Ryan

with Pattie's over-zealous and poorly-articulate joining of the dots to make something that is all the wrong shape, no-one wins. Certainly not Pattie, those who have interviewed her (Santilli was way too enthusiastic), or anyone who's already buried their RV in the ground.

After hearing 'Wolf' being cried too many times, some people out there will not take any action

Bingo.. Makes perfect sense now. :)
Or not.

You still think the controllers have it all stitched up? I beg to differ.

Sidney
16th August 2013, 15:27
Well, I didn't say that either. All I am saying, is IF shes been planted to make all these claims in a way that she would certainly discredit herself, then (according to TPTB) people will think none of it true. Another example, I posted a NASA video of "something" next to the sun. A week later the video was removed off YT. So I had to re post it, finding a different source for it. The new and improved version of that video had an obviously fake picture of second sun attached to the end of the video, clearly was a lens flare. My opinion was this was a deliberate attempt to discredit the entire video. If the thing at the end is fake, surely the whole thing must be fake. Seems to be a popular MO.

Lone Bean
16th August 2013, 15:46
Tomorrow's supposed to be the BIG day. Let's wait and see. :)

TODD & NORA
16th August 2013, 16:26
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SilentFeathers
16th August 2013, 17:14
Pattie Brassard will be on Pete Santilli's radio show at 1:30 pm EST (21 minutes from time of this post)
Listen Live @ http://guerillamedianetwork.com/
Please note that Mr. Santilli uses adult language quite often. His sense of humor is considered offensive and radical by many. However, I am pretty confident he will behave himself during the segment with Pattie.

I'm listening to this interview and Pattie is on a role today!

It's better than the soaps or the Dr. Phil show!

She's now claiming Queen Elizabeth stepped down and is in an underground base in Denver and will make an announcement about herself stepping down yet today.....intergalatic beings are on their way to Earth to rid us of the reptilians, etc etc etc......quite the interesting conversation! :)

Well, this corroborates from another reliable source, COBRA !!! here's an excerpt!

A huge victory of the Light has been achieved on the day of the opening of the 8-8 portal. ALL negative entities from the lower mental and lower astral planes have been removed. The only remaining negative non-physical entities are now hiding within the implant hemispheres on the etheric plane.

The Resistance Movement has communicated that as the non-physical planes will be clear soon, it is of the utmost importance to reach a certain degree of harmony within the planetary liberation movement as lack of harmony there will soon be the last main remaining factor delaying the Event.

The second Window of Opportunity comes within March- April 2014 time frame. It will be triggered by the Galactic Core activation by the G2 interstellar cloud:

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

Sorry, I couldn't resist! We used to have so much fun with Drake and COBRA!

Oh yeah, I could be having a blast and alot more fun with Brassard and this story of her's, but in all truth, I am still a bit burned out from the whole Drake and Cobra thing....:)

Lone Bean
16th August 2013, 20:09
I've been listening to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g0-iJQL3f0
And even if it's all BS, I can't help but like Patti Brassard. She comes across so real, and nice. I like her despite my doubts concerning her message. :D

SilentFeathers
17th August 2013, 13:40
Todays the big day for a 15 magnitude quake to happen on the US west coast (Seattle) if Pattie is correct.....better duct-tape your china down.

I'm still waiting for Queen Elizabeth to give a public explanation as to why she has stepped down and is no longer Queen....

Bill Ryan
17th August 2013, 19:28
Todays the big day for a 15 magnitude quake to happen


That'd be pretty much the end of the planet, if so. A giant asteroid impact would be something like magnitude 12. The scale is logarithmic, not linear.

For non mathematicians, that means that a mag 9 is ten times more powerful than a mag 8, a mag 11 is ten times more powerful than a mag 10, and so on.

So a mag 15 would be a million times more powerful than the largest earthquake ever recorded. To show it on the graph below, the image would have to be 50 feet high.

:)


http://resource.rockyview.ab.ca/t4t/math301/images/m6/m30_1_m6_026.jpg

ThePythonicCow
17th August 2013, 22:46
So a mag 15 would be a million times more powerful than the largest earthquake ever recorded.
Such an earthquake from a non-impacting fly by would be especially unlikely.

According to http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/missions/apollo/apollo_12/experiments/pse/, any earthquake like motions caused by the moon orbiting the earth are less than about two (2) on Richter scale.

So for an object at the distance of the moon to cause Richter scale 15 quakes it would have to be perhaps ten million million (ten to the 13) times larger. The sun's mass is only 27 million times the moon's mass, so we're talking over 370,000 times the mass of the sun ... if it were as close as the moon. Given that Pattie says this object will fly by a third of the way from the earth to the sun, or about 30 million miles from earth, which is about 120 times further away than the moon, and given that the gravitational effects of mass decrease with the distance squared, this object would have to be 370,000 * 120 * 120 == about five billion times the mass of the sun (give or take several orders of magnitude).

I probably made some serious mistakes in the above calculations, but I remain confident of the bottom line -- no object just flew between the earth and the sun today that caused Richter scale 15 effects on earth.

===

P.S. -- The most massive star known is R136a1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R136a1). It is about 265 times the mass of the sun, not even close to five billion times the mass of the sun.

ROMANWKT
17th August 2013, 22:58
Another view about Nibiru

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hiAfvQspbk

Regards

roman

sdv
17th August 2013, 23:24
It seems to be hardwired in the human psyche to seek attention and thus acquire status ... the result is distractions, but PA seems to be a place where nothing is ignored but everything is evaluated in a clear-minded way.

Human beings have perhaps self-destructed many times in different ways and we seem to be on the path for a major self-destruction so conversation about this destructive path is appropriate because some people have to survive to start the next cycle of trying to be wiser and do better next time around!

bOKl04TWVsU

loveoneanother
18th August 2013, 09:32
Hi guys :grouphug:

(It's a bit random this one i'm afraid so i'll try and keep it brief. Hope it's ok to post this here. I'm not sure where else to post it ?)

Just to set what follows in to some sort of context. I'm a Fisherman (tried to be a 'fisher of men' but no-one wants to know) and i've been a Fisherman all my life. (My spiritual development evan began while i was fishing.) Most of the people i know are fishermen and before i joined the Avalon community i was (and still am) an active member of a large on-line fishing community here in the UK.

Today(Sunday August 18th) i was on the fishing site looking through some of the threads on the regional forum that covers my local area, catching up with the latest news about my local beaches when i came across a really interesting photo that one of the members had (unknowingly) posted.

The guy had been fishing one of our local beaches recently and unfortunately for him, on this particular occasion he didn't catch any fish. He's a regular contributor to the site who usually puts up a 'catch report' whether he has caught something or not but because he had no fish photos to post he posted a few photos he took of the sunrise instead.

I'm sure there's a logical explanation for it (there always is isn't there) and no-one else who has seen his thread has noticed it (shall i politely say all the other members of this particular fishing site are 'asleep') but i thought what he 'caught' on the horizon (to the right of the Sun) in the third picture was 'interesting' ?

All i know is that the pictures were taken at sunrise on Friday 16th August from a beach here on the south coast of England. I don't have the astronomical or photographic skill-sets to say what it might be (could just be the Moon ?). If someone could offer up an explanation it would be much appreciated.....thanks :confused:




http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/fatdad2105/Fishing%20trips/20130817_063028_zps928dd3ea.jpg (http://s1172.photobucket.com/user/fatdad2105/media/Fishing%20trips/20130817_063028_zps928dd3ea.jpg.html)



http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/fatdad2105/Fishing%20trips/20130817_061325_zpse8a28fb0.jpg (http://s1172.photobucket.com/user/fatdad2105/media/Fishing%20trips/20130817_061325_zpse8a28fb0.jpg.html)



http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/fatdad2105/Fishing%20trips/20130817_061030_zps3bb23cf4.jpg (http://s1172.photobucket.com/user/fatdad2105/media/Fishing%20trips/20130817_061030_zps3bb23cf4.jpg.html)

araucaria
18th August 2013, 10:08
Todays the big day for a 15 magnitude quake to happen


That'd be pretty much the end of the planet, if so. A giant asteroid impact would be something like magnitude 12. The scale is logarithmic, not linear.

For non mathematicians, that means that a mag 9 is ten times more powerful than a mag 8, a mag 11 is ten times more powerful than a mag 10, and so on.

So a mag 15 would be a million times more powerful than the largest earthquake ever recorded. To show it on the graph below, the image would have to be 50 feet high.

:)


http://resource.rockyview.ab.ca/t4t/math301/images/m6/m30_1_m6_026.jpg

To make matters worse, those values are correct for amplitude, but need to be tripled each time to work out the energy released. Wikipedia:
An earthquake that measures 5.0 on the Richter scale has a shaking amplitude 10 times larger than one that measures 4.0, and corresponds to a 31.6 times larger release of energy

MorningSong
18th August 2013, 11:23
Loveoneanother, I searched (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.php) and the moon rose at 15:55 on the 16th, so the pale sphere I see on the right in the 3rd photo can't be the moon.

Good catch, though (no pun intended, lol!)

Maybe you should send it to Marshall Masters. He's looking for "Bluebonnet" picts.

loveoneanother
20th August 2013, 08:40
Loveoneanother, I searched (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.php) and the moon rose at 15:55 on the 16th, so the pale sphere I see on the right in the 3rd photo can't be the moon.

Good catch, though (no pun intended, lol!)

Maybe you should send it to Marshall Masters. He's looking for "Bluebonnet" picts.

Thank you very much MorningSong for taking the time to check whether the circular object in the photo was the Moon or not.....it was very much appreciated thank you :yo:

(I think i will have to put that particular mystery, along with most of the other stuff i read these days, into my ever expanding 'No Idea' file :noidea: )

I get the feeling, now August 17th has come and gone without incident, that Pattie Brassard and her 'end of days' predictions is about to slip into the history books as yet another 'voice' that tried (albeit in a rather scary manner) to wake people up. Pattie certainly gave my tree a bit of a shake that's for sure and even though i didn't make much of a contribution to this thread like some of my amazing fellow Avalonians did, i still felt a strong connection to something somewhere about all this that i haven't quite been able to put my finger on yet ? You know, a bit like an itch you can't quite scratch :unsure:

I've tried to think it all through from as many different perspectives as possible to try to get to the bottom of what's bothering me. I began wondering if maybe the real message Pattie was trying to get out was about Fukushima and the 'two suns' element of the message was just the outrageous bit to gain the attention needed although for some reason i couldn't quite connect with that train of thought. I then started thinking how coincidental it was that something like this had come out at the same time as everyone is anticipating the arrival of Comet Ison and when i started going down this line of thinking i found the connection much stronger in my mind (so like a good bloodhound, off i went for a bit of a sniff around :typing: )

I'm sorry for giving the kiss of life to this thread after the 'patient' has effectively been pronounced dead but i came across the following which i thought was an interesting take on it all and which may possibly merit further discussion (or not) :rolleyes:

The following is an extract taken from the website of Jim McCanney (link provided), followed by a video which is an excerpt taken from his latest radio broadcast (which can be listened to in it's entirety by clicking on the 'Radio Archive' section within the link provided) :

August 11, 2013 ... is Pattie Brussard real ??? after investigating here is my analysis ... what she is saying is pure fabricated BS !!! first of all if she worked for the places she said (credentials can be fabricated or in some cases eliminated) then she is under strict gag orders and contracts NOT to talk about anything and these gag orders will and are enforced ... she does appear to be real or at least NASA is complicit in allowing her to appear real ... in either case she would not have ANYTHING allowed on YOUTUBE or any other outlet ... anything would be taken down immediately and she would be sequestered and put in a room where no one would ever hear from her again (NASA employees are all under strict gag orders) ... the ploy is to make her sound credible and that she is exposing NASA (something every mouse on the internet would love to exploit especially all the sky is falling planet X nut case wanna bees that inhabit the internet... so lots of unsuspecting nut cases to pound her story) ... so you then logically conclude that NASA and the misinformation agencies up to a high level are allowing Pattie Brussard to push out her goofy message of NASA hiding data about some second sun with 7 companions (maybe they were even hoping i would bite that hook) ... but the plot thickens ... soon the white hats will come riding in to save the day to debunk her BS and everyone can then point to another nut case promoting false planet X stories ... this time a credentialed NASA employee ... this will effectively prevent any future cases of NASA employees venting real information an added side effect of all of this ... the boy already cried wolf ... the photos she is showing are of comet ISON next to Jupiter ... calling it another sun ... and claiming it has 7 planets around it ... additionally claiming that it is "pushing a red cloud in front of it to mars" (some mumbo jumbo fairy tale science) which is a cover story for what i had been saying all along ... that comet ISON will change the atmosphere of mars and the majority chemical would be SO2 sulfur dioxide which is the most common chemical around Jupiter and in outer space is very red (remember comet shoemacker levy 9 ???) ... they are trying to head off at the pass my prediction that comet ISON will change the atmosphere of mars in its encounter with mars in september ... note the timing here ... that is a month away ... but NASA retains the official stance that there is nothing to watch regarding comet ISON until november when they have a team of high level scientists to pound the scientifically illiterate public with misinformation ... there are many other aspects to this bizarre story but these are the central issues ... jim mccanney P.S. when i listen to her talk she sounds like she is under mind control ... that is how mind control "victims" talk ... in a slow drone lifeless manner ... then again she could just be one of those brain dead tier II scientists

http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/thought%20of%20the%20day.HTM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OfuropAXbQ

Thanks everyone and much Love to you all :grouphug:

araucaria
20th August 2013, 09:29
Thank you loveoneanother. I see jim mccanney's page layout has not improved in all this time :(

I enjoyed your photos for the pictures of the sea gently lapping on a wet, golden sandy beach - looking at the skies of course :)

Lone Bean
20th August 2013, 15:45
Pattie L. Brassard's Facebook page is basically empty. All pictures and videos have been removed and she has not made any new posts. The most recent post is dated May 13, 2013. Either she's taken it down or someone else has. I wonder what's going on?

yiolas
20th August 2013, 16:55
Pattie L. Brassard's Facebook page is basically empty. All pictures and videos have been removed and she has not made any new posts. The most recent post is dated May 13, 2013. Either she's taken it down or someone else has. I wonder what's going on?

Hi Lone Bean, I was just on Pattie's facebook page where she is getting a lot of traffic. She posted a comment only 8 hours ago to say that she will be out with another interview in the next day or so.
This is the link to her facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/PattieBFine/posts/10151620935061033?comment_id=26912729&offset=0&total_comments=1#!/PattieBFine

Furthermore, people are also starting to share you tube videos showing how to bury your camper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Kj3oH4gro



And this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-G_IfhgQSw


Both videos are from PatriotSurvival

Hey, just saying " Don't kill the messenger"

TheVoyager
20th August 2013, 17:25
The text below from Eve Lorgen's web site I have originally posted it here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics&p=717331&viewfull=1#post717331

Some of you might be interested to have a look at it.


From EveLorgen.com (http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/steve-richards-interview-with-robert-stanley-88013/):


Steve Richards Interview with Robert Stanley 8/8/013
Posted on August 15, 2013

Steve Richards is an Aboriginal Shamanic Practitioner who developed Holographic Kinetics. (See http://www.holographickinetics.net/) This is a shamanic form of healing the by accessing the soul and spirit using the laws of LORE*. In this interview with Robert Stanley of Unicus Radio, Steve goes into more detail about how and why Holographic Kinetics works. This interview is more easily understood in terms of what is happening to a person with entity attachment problems or other unusual conditions that baffles the mental health field.

Steve mentions the coming Conjunction of Zero time wave that starts this month of August 2013 and progresses for the next twenty years or so. Basically, those who evolve and understand the “game” of what life really is about in this realm, can move forward to another dimensional reality. This concept is similar to what others have mentioned about the “Two Earth’s” theory.

https://archive.org/details/01RobertStanleyURH882013


*LORE is knowledge of the universe and when that knowledge is applied it unfolds like the petals of a flower awakening from its night sleep within its daily cycle of time, it consists of a system of laws and wave formation known as cycles, to stay in balance, swinging like a pendulum but always seeking balance as that lies between the two opposing forces, within all created realities, action and re-action, cause and effect.

Lone Bean
21st August 2013, 15:15
Hi Lone Bean, I was just on Pattie's facebook page where she is getting a lot of traffic. She posted a comment only 8 hours ago to say that she will be out with another interview in the next day or so.
This is the link to her facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/PattieBFine...#!/PattieBFine

It doesn't show anything when I go there. It's like she's vanished. But thanks for the link anyway.

yiolas
22nd August 2013, 07:37
Hi Lone Bean, I was just on Pattie's facebook page where she is getting a lot of traffic. She posted a comment only 8 hours ago to say that she will be out with another interview in the next day or so.
This is the link to her facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/PattieBFine...#!/PattieBFine

It doesn't show anything when I go there. It's like she's vanished. But thanks for the link anyway.

I think you have to friend her before you can read anything on her facebook.

By the way, there's a you tube video out of Patty doing a skype video interview, where she takes questions from her facebook group. Have a look.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk40dPISysU&feature=player_embedded

Lone Bean
22nd August 2013, 17:19
Gosh. I swear the more I listen to Pattie the more I tend to believe her. I know a little of which she is talking (science/magnets sort of stuff) and it seems to be adding up.....at least for me. Some of it like the earthquakes and much of DC power in the DUMBS I look at with an askanced view, but hey! maybe there is a chance we can actually ascend. I hope so!!!

yiolas
22nd August 2013, 20:39
Gosh. I swear the more I listen to Pattie the more I tend to believe her. I know a little of which she is talking (science/magnets sort of stuff) and it seems to be adding up.....at least for me. Some of it like the earthquakes and much of DC power in the DUMBS I look at with an askanced view, but hey! maybe there is a chance we can actually ascend. I hope so!!!

Yes, I know what you mean. Especially seeing her face to face, there is something endearing about her demeanor. The truth is, I believed the things that George Kavasilas was saying were plausible as well.
Maybe we are playing a game of 'Dodge the Catastrophic Time Line'.

grannyfranny100
22nd August 2013, 21:19
I see two personalities getting lots of play in the alternative media and particularly here on Avalon simultaneously.

First Patti has been very skillful at getting media play and now this channel gal Teal. One builds despair and helplessness and the other reinforces the "be nice and think good thoughts" agenda.

Neither approach really motivates people and merely diverts one's attention from the build up of WWIII.

heretogrow
23rd August 2013, 03:33
Oh I know. When I heard George talk about the earth becoming a star I got chills, and random flowing happy tears and went outside and told the earth that I was blessed to be here at this time. I know this sounds naïve and weird but I honestly can't tell when someone is not telling the truth. Especially if they come from a position of good intent and truly believe what they are putting forward. Instead of judging I just try to come from a point of gratitude for their contribution. I have had to learn to move out of the fear of dying and try to understand the amazing times we live in. In that a message rang loud and true to me. One that I never expected. Everything that we think we need or seek, we have already had in either this or many lifetimes before. Truly we want for nothing. We have experienced it all. We just need to trust that all is well and believe that what is meant to transpire for the best of all will happen. Even in this seemingly detached state we can still create. IMO the ideal thing would be not to limit that creation based on one's understanding but to leave it open ended and pliable. I am amazed when I process new knowledge and garner new empathy everyday. I would never wish to put a limit on all that can be learned.

Lone Bean
23rd August 2013, 14:37
Oh I know. When I heard George talk about the earth becoming a star I got chills, and random flowing happy tears and went outside and told the earth that I was blessed to be here at this time. I know this sounds naïve and weird but I honestly can't tell when someone is not telling the truth. Especially if they come from a position of good intent and truly believe what they are putting forward. Instead of judging I just try to come from a point of gratitude for their contribution. I have had to learn to move out of the fear of dying and try to understand the amazing times we live in. In that a message rang loud and true to me. One that I never expected. Everything that we think we need or seek, we have already had in either this or many lifetimes before. Truly we want for nothing. We have experienced it all. We just need to trust that all is well and believe that what is meant to transpire for the best of all will happen. Even in this seemingly detached state we can still create. IMO the ideal thing would be not to limit that creation based on one's understanding but to leave it open ended and pliable. I am amazed when I process new knowledge and garner new empathy everyday. I would never wish to put a limit on all that can be learned.

Beautiful. This helped me a lot. Thank-you! :D

donk
23rd August 2013, 15:52
I see two personalities getting lots of play in the alternative media and particularly here on Avalon simultaneously.

First Patti has been very skillful at getting media play and now this channel gal Teal. One builds despair and helplessness and the other reinforces the "be nice and think good thoughts" agenda.

Neither approach really motivates people and merely diverts one's attention from the build up of WWIII.

There's videos of people burying campers--and I'm sure others getting motivated to prep for disaster after hearing the info, while there's numerous testamonials of people saying how helpful Teal is to them....I don't understand where your statement is coming from

Teal's message of a good loving attitude would serve anyone in the here & now especially--but every here & now past, present and future...while Patti's warnings will serve anyone who takes "best case" and gets prepared for worst case never hurt anyone, and will serve most people who don't go overboard (and god-forbid her having everything right!!)

I think some are so quick to poo-poo people putting out good messages. Do we really need to add "DISCERNMENT IS NECESSARY" over and over every time someone says something, and the message gets some play???

Sure, there's a lot going on beyond the hot Avalon personalities of the day...but what do you suggest we need to know about WW3, and how is this distracting from it--wouldn't focusing on something we have no control over be a diversion from living our lives??

How exactly does Teal and Patti's divert from being spiritually/emotionally/mentally/materially prepared for WW3, which seems to be your agenda...and what important points are we missing that you think we should be considering that their propoganda is hiding?

grannyfranny100
23rd August 2013, 20:06
Donk. Point well taken if it isn't absorbed just as diversion from The Parasites That Be's intentions and actions.

I recommend
• The Media Deception About the Terrorist Attacks in Lebanon By Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya http://www.globalresearch.ca/5346531/5346531
as well as
• America: Home of the Brave, Land of the... Jailed? Global Research, August 22, 2013 http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-home-of-the-brave-land-of-the-jailed/5346713.

I feel that many alternative media articles and readers have caused TPTB to back down a bit when the public called them out as they did with Snowden's documentation about the NSA spying. Even Congress is making noises about it.

And I feel strongly about Jeffrey Grupp's book The Telescreen: An Empirical and Philosophical Study of the Destruction of Consciousness (see interview on Mel Fabregras's radio show Veritas http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2013/08aug/VS-130822-jgrupp.php)

You may want to read the show's synopsis and Grupp's bio. He presents quite a case for how easy it is for the social engineers to switch our beliefs to make us feel we are growing when we are just being manipulated.

You Tube makes it easy for the social engineers to mix some commonly available info from the past few decades (including prepper and NewAge info), repackage it into video format, observe the comments for what is drawing attention and then add more and more videos to hit people's hot buttons.

It is kind of the grown up version of a toddler spilling milk to divert mom's attention toward cleaning up the mess while the kid steals cookies from the cookie jar.

Don't miss Thread: HOW TO HEAL THE WORLD: (A roadmap you may have been waiting for...) by Bill Ryan http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62596-HOW-TO-HEAL-THE-WORLD--A-roadmap-you-may-have-been-waiting-for...-

donk
27th August 2013, 14:50
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads18/airplane_sniffing_glue_21301577115.jpg

....if I'm not mistaken, some terrible **** should be going down.....any second now...

Ultima Thule
28th August 2013, 03:10
I would like to know in retrospect what/who/why made Pattie come up with the conclusions she did. That perhaps would be the most interesting bit of information in this tour-de-campers.

Then perhaps it would make sense understand who wants to distract people and especially why with another doomsday scenario. In general I know(or think I know) what might be going on, but perhaps the best information from Pattie or someone else in her type of situation is available after misfire - which usually is the time when everybody averts their gaze.

UT

Mandala
3rd September 2013, 04:01
She's still going. Here is another video with impending claims where she says she took pictures with the telescope cope she commandeered.

XsndCWzlH4Q

Lone Bean
4th September 2013, 15:39
Yesterday on Pattie Brassard's Facebook page she cryptically warned of a earth evacuation in November, 2014. Of course it created hundreds of replies, mostly by people trying to get her to explain in simple English what she was talking about.
She continued to type in one-sentence cryptic responses. I have determined that she is a fraud and is just fear-mongering for the thrill of it. I felt sorry for all those people who now think that several thousand ET spaceships are coming to rescue them from some sort of imminent death caused by something really cryptic lol! :)

778 neighbour of some guy
5th September 2013, 10:03
some sort of imminent death caused by something really cryptic lol!

Our future history books will have chapters in them about how the Aliens came to pick us up in their Space limousines, to prevent us to die of a horrible death by Sudoku and cross word puzzles, the lucky ones will get front row seats, free popcorn and a silly hat.

( a trusted source who's name I obviously can not say assured me the above will happen, he also assured me, that if you take an endoscope (or a small telescope) and you look inside any random rectal cavity, you can see a fractal representation of Narnia upside down).

Ultima Thule
5th November 2013, 08:31
Add this to predictions that never happened?
UT

Sidney
5th November 2013, 14:38
YOu know if you get a certain number of views, you tube will pay you. I think money motivates these people to do this stuff as well as being attention hounds.

sigma6
11th November 2013, 15:42
regarding 'Patties' interview... I could not shake the idea I was listening to a man, no matter how hard I tried... very odd... not sure what that means (but there is lots of room for speculation...) As far as her status as a 'scientist' ... - not according to her own resume. Although it would be the envy of any computer geek, I saw nothing related to astronomy or anything remotely close to a BA, Masters or PhD in any pure science or anything at all... purely technical PC hardware, OS installation, networking, electronics, some military hardware, and it looked 90% PC networking hardware, OS installation. She's what I would call a hardware hack. The backbone staff of any corporation that maintains a computer network. And from the looks of it Microsoft (lower caste then Unix Admins)

My conclusion at this stage... Pattie is an uber computer geek, that reads science fiction, feels more comfortable in a pair of slacks then a frilly dress (or I could have that completely backwards, if you know what I mean...:o) and she got caught up in a story about a story about a story... urban myth become esoteric knowledge...

(oh... and just for the record I'm not knocking computer geeks who read science fiction... THAT is all good! LOL)

Lone Bean
21st November 2013, 16:40
Pattie has removed her Facebook page. Either she is giving up her fraud because time has run out on her predictions, or she's holed up underground somewhere waiting for the big earthquake/explosion. But I'd place my bet on the former.

Lone Bean
11th December 2013, 16:07
Holy Crap! I just now went to Youtube and put it Pattie Brassard and this is what I found: She/he/it is a complete troll.

http://hatrickpenry.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/im-calling-out-all-nuclear-trolls/

Sidney
11th December 2013, 18:20
WOW, Pattie Brassard = PattieBFine transgender fiction/porn writer with an obvious vendetta against Dutchsince and Sheilaliens. Interesting twist to say the least. Thanks for the update Loanbeam!!!

RMorgan
11th December 2013, 18:35
WOW, Pattie Brassard = PattieBFine transgender fiction/porn writer with an obvious vendetta against Dutchsince and Sheilaliens. Interesting twist to say the least. Thanks for the update Loanbeam!!!

It's impressive how such kind of person could fool so many people...Wasn't it obvious that he/she was a hoaxer?

Look at this thread...Full 16 pages exclusively about him/her.

Honestly, when I think about how gullible people who are supposed to be awake and aware are, I kinda lose my hope for the future of humanity.

Year after year, it's the same thing...A new charlatan comes into the scene...People loose countless hours discussing his nonsense....People debunk him....Then another new charlatan comes into the scene...and it starts all over again.

SilentFeathers
11th December 2013, 19:07
WOW, Pattie Brassard = PattieBFine transgender fiction/porn writer with an obvious vendetta against Dutchsince and Sheilaliens. Interesting twist to say the least. Thanks for the update Loanbeam!!!

It's impressive how such kind of person could fool so many people...Wasn't it obvious that he/she was a hoaxer?

Look at this thread...Full 16 pages exclusively about him/her.

Honestly, when I think about how gullible people who are supposed to be awake and aware are, I kinda lose my hope for the future of humanity.

Year after year, it's the same thing...A new charlatan comes into the scene...People loose countless hours discussing his nonsense....People debunk him....Then another new charlatan comes into the scene...and it starts all over again.

At least many of these types of people are not remaining on the scene up front and center for as long as they used too.

Well now that I spent my life savings and have every spare room in my home filled up with toilet paper and I now have a camper buried in my backyard, well, what should I do next?

Sidney
11th December 2013, 19:07
WOW, Pattie Brassard = PattieBFine transgender fiction/porn writer with an obvious vendetta against Dutchsince and Sheilaliens. Interesting twist to say the least. Thanks for the update Loanbeam!!!

It's impressive how such kind of person could fool so many people...Wasn't it obvious that he/she was a hoaxer?

Look at this thread...Full 16 pages exclusively about him/her.

Honestly, when I think about how gullible people who are supposed to be awake and aware are, I kinda lose my hope for the future of humanity.

Year after year, it's thesame thing...A new charlatan comes into the scene...People loose countless hours discussing his nonsense....People debunk him....Then another new charlatan comes into the scene...and it starts all over again.

W hat amazes me about this is that there are people on this planet with not just the ability to hoax, but the absolute endless varieties of their hoaxing abilities.

Its one thing to be a government shill. But, MAN, (well,,,) this PattieB is one piece of work. Holy Cow.

Maybe her/his goal ultimately was to discredit the true dangers of Fukushima. We will never know how these sickos think.

greybeard
11th December 2013, 20:11
WOW, Pattie Brassard = PattieBFine transgender fiction/porn writer with an obvious vendetta against Dutchsince and Sheilaliens. Interesting twist to say the least. Thanks for the update Loanbeam!!!

It's impressive how such kind of person could fool so many people...Wasn't it obvious that he/she was a hoaxer?

Look at this thread...Full 16 pages exclusively about him/her.

Honestly, when I think about how gullible people who are supposed to be awake and aware are, I kinda lose my hope for the future of humanity.

Year after year, it's the same thing...A new charlatan comes into the scene...People loose countless hours discussing his nonsense....People debunk him....Then another new charlatan comes into the scene...and it starts all over again.

Yes but---Its mainly a conspiracy theorist web site here and people are incline to find what they look for R Morgan, which is why I value your input on Avalon--you bring balance.
Im guilty of tilting at windmills at times too. (Don Quixote)http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/121842-el-ingenioso-hidalgo-don-quijote-de-la-mancha

Chris

linksplatinum
25th February 2014, 06:53
I used to keep an eye on the greatglobalshift site using very strict discernment, until there was an undeniable amount of things that resonated as pure "fear porn" especially with the whole Planet X dialogue. I had actually mentioned the fact that Pattie was a "Troller" and was trying to generate fear with her followers, and quoted what Andrew Bartzis had mentioned about the whole ploy that was being generated by several different sites that were similar to greatglobalshift, and I had said that Andrew had explained that the Archon's and Reptilians were trying to get enough people to manifest their fears into a reality, but that there were positive allies that had made sure that that would not happen and that Nibiru would not be able to enter our realm of existence. Well I sh*t you not, but the very next day after I had posted that information the website had literally shutdown, and has never been accessible since then... So, it looks as though either by just mere coincidence, or the fact that I had blown the lid off of that "fear porn" somehow somebody had caught on an realized that the gig was up... That was awkward to say the least with how things transpired afterwards...