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Ria
16th August 2013, 15:45
I read this twice because I thought I had misunderstood, but no.
Abu Ghraib torture victims sued by 'torturers'
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/14/318762/abu-ghraib-torture-victims-sued-by-torturers/


Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:48AM GMT

American defense contractor CACI International has sued four former detainees in Abu Ghraib prison to compensate the legal expenses it paid over their dismissed lawsuit regarding the company’s role in torturing the plaintiffs in the notorious jail in Iraq.


The four Iraqi nationals had earlier filed a lawsuit in a District Court in Alexandria against the company accusing it of torturing, humiliating and dehumanizing them when they served time in the prison.

But in July, the judge dismissed the case, saying the court did not have jurisdiction to hear the lawsuit because the incidents happened overseas.

The Arlington-based company has now demanded the plaintiffs pay over $15,000 for travel allowances, deposition transcripts and witness fees, Common Dreams reported.

The lawyers for former Abu Ghraib prisoners in a federal court filing rejected the request.

Our clients “have very limited financial means, even by non-US standards, and dramatically so when compared to the corporate defendants in this case,” according to the filing.

“At the same time, plaintiffs’ serious claims of torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, and war crimes were dismissed on very close, difficult - and only recently arguable - grounds.”

“Given the wealth disparities between this multi-billion dollar entity and four torture victims, given what they went through, it's surprising and appears to be an attempt to intimidate and punish these individuals for asserting their rights to sue in US courts," said Baher Azny, legal director for the Center for Constitutional Rights and the attorney for the plaintiffs.

"Our case is based on reports and investigations by high-level US military investigators, recognizing CACI's role in conspiracy to torture detainees," Azny added

"Once we get past legal obstacles and present the case to a jury, we are hopeful justice will come to these Iraqi victims."

The lawyers who are planning to appeal the case to the US Court of Appeals in fall argue that US law should apply to CACI International as it is an American-based company that operated in a US military prison.

Flash
16th August 2013, 17:44
Very interesting.

It is either to intimidate the ex prisoners and the futur ones, or it is god sent ways to make sure everything is open to public scrutiny. That company's greed cannot not be noticed even by the hard liners.

Hawkwind
16th August 2013, 20:25
Beam me up, Scotty. This planet is being governed by sociopaths.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
16th August 2013, 22:05
Gitmo is a sickening open wound in the fabric of democracy.

ghostrider
17th August 2013, 15:19
Beam me up, Scotty. This planet is being governed by sociopaths.

beam me up and set phasers to stun , sheilds up , red alert, all hands on deck , mr worf , if shields fall , use the ship as a battering ram , the line must be drawn HERE ... torture of humans by other humans to kill other humans so other humans can make money ... how has the Iraq war changed anything for the better for america ??? now the muslims really have a reason to hate our government and way of life ... osama gone, saddam gone, looks like killing isn't the answer ...

toad
17th August 2013, 18:51
Gitmo is a sickening open wound in the fabric of democracy.


This is Abu Ghraib, a completely different installation and a totally different nightmare:

http://2010.newsweek.com/content/2010/top-10/startling-scoops/abu-ghraib/_jcr_content/par/textimage/image.img.jpg

Atlas
26th November 2015, 04:47
According to this CBS News article (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/12/60II/main617121.shtml), "Pfc. Lynndie England, the guard seen smiling and pointing at Iraqi prisoners in one of the pictures above, said she was ordered to pose for the pictures by 'persons in my higher chain of command'".

And when asked "if there were other things that happened at Abu Ghraib, things that were not photographed, she said, “Yes.” When asked if there were worse things that happened, she said “Yes,” but would not elaborate."

An idea about what these things might have been we get from a statement (http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/abughraib/151108.pdf) provided by Kasim Mehaddi Hilas, Detainee #151108, on January 18 2004:

"I saw [name deleted] ****ing a kid, his age would be about 15 - 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn't covered and I saw [name deleted] who was wearing the military uniform putting his dick in the little kid's ass. I couldn't see the face of the kid because his face wasn't in front of the door. And the female soldier was taking pictures. [name deleted], I think he is [deleted] because of his accent, and he was not skinny or short, and he acted like a homosexual (gay). And that was in cell #23 as best as I remember."

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/abughraib/151108.pdf

Or from a statement (http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/abughraib/150427.pdf) provided by Thaar Salman Dawod, Detainee #150427, on January 17, 2004:

"I saw lots of people getting naked for a few days getting punished in the first days of Ramadan. They came with two boys naked and they were cuffed together face to face and Grainer was beating them and a group of guards were watching and taking pictures from top and bottom and there was three female soldiers laughing at the prisoners. The prisoners, two of them, were young. I don't know their names."

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/abughraib/150427.pdf

Related thread: projectavalon.net/Ghosts-of-Abu-Ghraib-2007 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28576-Ghosts-of-Abu-Ghraib--2007-)