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EYES WIDE OPEN
18th August 2013, 12:04
National Service Bill 2013-14

Type of Bill:
Private Members' Bill (Presentation Bill)
Sponsor:
Mr Philip Hollobone

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/nationalservice.html


Already coming up to the 2nd reading in the commons.

Please share this with everyone.

The good thing is PMB's rarely make it through.

sheme
18th August 2013, 12:07
We can't afford it- so it will not happen.

EYES WIDE OPEN
28th October 2013, 21:34
update:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOK969537RA

Taurean
28th October 2013, 22:34
We can't afford it- so it will not happen.


23408

Hitler used Conscrips to build the Autobahn network, - maybe thats how we're going to get HS2 ? - a $25bn rail link to shave 25 mins off the journey time from Manchester to London.

Wages to be paid in vouchers which can be redeemed at any participating Fast Food outlet near you.

Taurean
29th October 2013, 09:40
Hollobone is rated as the Conservatives' most rebellious MP.[14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Hollobone

Doesn't say much for a BA ( Oxford ) in Modern History & Econonomics.

happyuk
26th May 2024, 20:04
National Service Bill 2013-14

Type of Bill:
Private Members' Bill (Presentation Bill)
Sponsor:
Mr Philip Hollobone

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/nationalservice.html

Already coming up to the 2nd reading in the commons.

Please share this with everyone.

The good thing is PMB's rarely make it through.

Seems like a timely moment to resurrect this original, 11 years later!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpddxy9r4mdo

It's clearly been on the cards for some time, but seems doomed to fail on multiple levels.

If I were a young, patriotic male why would I want to put my life on pause for a year for a 'country' that actively discriminates against me. RAF job adverts as one example (https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/raf-recruitment/#:~:text=RAF%20recruitment,-Allegations%20and%20resignations&text=Nicholl%20said%20she%20had%20been,with%20%E2%80%9Cimpossible%E2%80%9D%20diversity%20targets.) that despises me, thinks all of society's woes past and present are down to me (British Empire, patriarchy, misogyny, 'toxic masculinity', 'white male privilege' etc), when there 'refugee' and 'asylum seeker' families in 4 star accommodation across the nation and the country continues to stratify as other cultures seek to isolate themselves further from the laws and cultures of the land.

No, full time military national service is pretty much a non starter for precisely for these (and other) reasons.

Mari
26th May 2024, 20:31
National Service Bill 2013-14

Type of Bill:
Private Members' Bill (Presentation Bill)
Sponsor:
Mr Philip Hollobone

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/nationalservice.html

Already coming up to the 2nd reading in the commons.

Please share this with everyone.

The good thing is PMB's rarely make it through.

Seems like a timely moment to resurrect this original, 11 years later!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpddxy9r4mdo

Resurrecting this thread is it seems particularly prescient -albeit 14 years later!

It's clearly been on the cards for some time, but seems doomed to fail on multiple levels.

If I were a young, patriotic male why would I want to put my life on pause for a year for a 'country' that actively discriminates against me. RAF job adverts as one example (https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/raf-recruitment/#:~:text=RAF%20recruitment,-Allegations%20and%20resignations&text=Nicholl%20said%20she%20had%20been,with%20%E2%80%9Cimpossible%E2%80%9D%20diversity%20targets.) that despises me, thinks all of society's woes past and present are down to me (British Empire, patriarchy, misogyny, 'toxic masculinity', 'white male privilege' etc), when there 'refugee' and 'asylum seeker' families in 4 star accommodation across the nation and the country continues to stratify as other cultures seek to isolate themselves further from the laws and cultures of the land.

No, full time military national service is pretty much a non starter for precisely for these (and other) reasons.

Yes - there's also absolutely no appetite for 'war' amongst our young and indeed the majority, also mostly because it's seen for what it is: agenda pushing, falsification of facts to change political regimes, ethnic cleansing, population control and land grabbing whilst swelling the coffers of the industrial military complex to ever greater obscene levels.
It'll never get off the ground, too many have woken up.

Hym
26th May 2024, 21:08
We can't afford it- so it will not happen.


23408

Hitler used Conscrips to build the Autobahn network, - maybe thats how we're going to get HS2 ? - a $25bn rail link to shave 25 mins off the journey time from Manchester to London.

Wages to be paid in vouchers which can be redeemed at any participating Fast Food outlet near you.

Definitely not gonna happen. Not even with the dwindling numbers of uninformed, misled and poverty stricken young ones, fighting everything from DEI to mandated clot shots.

For all who fought to end wars, especially those whose loved ones died in wars that were never meant to be won, like Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the many other "undeclared" "conflicts" that the West has always fought for those war profiteers, and NEVER, EVER for the sake of humanity, the reintroduction of a conscription bill in the UK is the test of tests given to the citizens of these countries. It is the most important test of a people to use its voice and demand an end to the use of their children for what has always been proven to be profit for the few.

The picture of that chocoholic, vegetarian, speed freak Adolf, preparing to shove a large blunt object into the arses of the young ones, soon to be fed into the charnel houses of hell, is a very accurate warning to parents and loved ones in every country now engaged in allowing evil corporations to run their governments. We do see UKrainian parents who still have their children alive and looking forward to their futures, paying to send their young adults to another country in their very difficult attempts to save their lives from being victims of the most immoral of drafts.

Are the parents in the UK awake enough to stop the demi-gods of war and their political slave class from using their children to garner profit? They are capable of doing just this. The power of peace begins with the very largest of F...U..s to those who do not value the lives of anyone, let alone our children.

Are all of the other western citizens aware of this dire threat to the best that they have nurtured, sacrificed for, changed for ... their children? Most European citizens are now faced with this challenge. I know they have the power in their unified efforts, as always is the case when people understand just how they have been treated for so long and then use that anger, that dire threat to energize their own creative and fearlessly peaceful actions to insure a future that all, young and old, should have.