Comet Hits the Sun causes explosion on the surface

[Maia Gabrial]

Has anyone see this yet?

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[Wind]

Yes, apparently it caused a full-halo CME. Thankfull most of it will miss us.

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[Sidney]

Has anyone see this yet?

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FYI This video is from September of 2011. The one Wind posted is indeed from today.

[Wind]

Oh, just to let you guys know those comets are hitting the Sun all the time, but NASA is hiding most of the information. If they told how the comets reacted with the Sun then it would transform the current scientific paradigm. We're living in a electric and a conscious universe.

[Sidney]

Oh, just to let you guys know those comets are hitting the Sun all the time, but NASA is hiding most of the information. If they told how the comets reacted with the Sun then it would transform the current scientific paradigm. We're living in a electric and a conscious universe.


I agree. It will be a cold day in hell before they admit that they don't know diddley squat about real science. (or what they really know will never be for public consumption)LOL

[Nick Matkin]

Sorry people, such a comparatively tiny object as a comet caused no CME when it hit the sun. I thought this seemed very unlikely so I checked - something we should do more often perhaps?

Just one minute's Googling came up with:

"SUNDIVING COMET AND FULL-HALO CME (http://spaceweather.com/): A small comet plunged into the sun on August 20th. Just before it arrived, [my emphasis] the sun expelled a magnificent full-halo CME..."

And:

"Sundiving comets - a.k.a. 'sungrazers (http://www.spaceguarduk.com/news-archive/88-spaceguard-uk/news/324-sundiving-comet-storm)' - are nothing new. SOHO typically sees one every few days, plunging inward and disintegrating as solar heat sublimes its volatile ices..."

So it's perfectly plausible that sooner or later a CME will happen around the of a comet impact.

Nick

PS: Why, exactly, would NASA want to hide the fact that comet/solar impacts are common? It seems if they are hiding this info, they're doing a piss-poor job - the truth is out...

[Wind]

PS: Why, exactly, would NASA want to hide the fact that comet/solar impacts are common? It seems if they are hiding this info, they're doing a piss-poor job - the truth is out...

Well, maybe they're not hiding but at least they're censoring information, because they don't want people to know about the electrical discharges between the comets and the Sun.

Here is a document about the subject. I haven't seen it myself yet, but I hear that it's good.

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We believe that this critical analysis of textbook comet theory can have a major impact on human understanding of these remarkable bodies. It can also reach well beyond the specialized science of comets to provoke a reconsideration of the Sun, planetary history, and a good deal more. We live in an Electric Universe, and the enigmatic behavior of comets provides unique insights into the role of charged particles and electrified plasma throughout the Cosmos.

[ghostrider]

if this happens and we are in the direct path of the CME, watch for the EMV's to protect earth from radiation ...it's easy to forget how big our sun is, that blast was massive ... they say flying in a jet airliner at 400 mph or so, it would take 1,000 years to go around the sun one time ...

[Nick Matkin]

PS: Why, exactly, would NASA want to hide the fact that comet/solar impacts are common? It seems if they are hiding this info, they're doing a piss-poor job - the truth is out...

Well, maybe they're not hiding but at least they're censoring information, because they don't want people to know about the electrical discharges between the comets and the Sun.

What electrical discharges? And even if there are any, why would they censor this information?

Nick

[Wind]

What electrical discharges? And even if there are any, why would they censor this information?

Nick

The document might explains those things. If they weren't censoring the information then they would have to admit that the universe isn't working as we are being told.

"ISON may be a very dangerous cosmic object, because it is a long period comet whose tail the Earth passes through. Comets are not balls of ice & dust like NASA states. NASA will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic.

Comets contain ingredients that may be responsible for epidemics, plagues & natural disasters w/biblical proportions. In the ancient times, we referred to these cosmic objects as destroyers, dragons & witches."

[Nick Matkin]

if this happens and we are in the direct path of the CME, watch for the EMV's to protect earth from radiation ...it's easy to forget how big our sun is, that blast was massive ... they say flying in a jet airliner at 400 mph or so, it would take 1,000 years to go around the sun one time ...

Not quite. The average commercial jet liner travels about 550 mph and the earth is somewhere around 26,000 miles in circumference. If you incorrectly assume it could make the trip without refueling it would take over 47 hours.

The sun is about 1,000,000 times the diameter of earth. The sun is approximately 4,366,813 kilometers (2,713,406 miles) in circumference.

2,700,000/26,000 = about 104

104 * 47 hours = 4888 hours
4888 hours / 24 day = about 203 days

That is much, Much, MUCH shorter than 1000 years!

All you have to do is check the facts...

(Sorry, my being a pedantic, pompous twat can be so irritating - even to me...)

Nick

[Nick Matkin]

"ISON may be a very dangerous cosmic object, because it is a long period comet whose tail the Earth passes through. Comets are not balls of ice & dust like NASA states. NASA will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic.

Comets contain ingredients that may be responsible for epidemics, plagues & natural disasters w/biblical proportions. In the ancient times, we referred to these cosmic objects as destroyers, dragons & witches."

Well, there have been numerous 'dangerous comets' in the past couple of years, but we're all still here. People just love this stuff! We often cross comet tails - and it gives us meteor showers just like the recent Perseids which crosses the path of comet Swift-Tuttle. It happens five or six times a year from debris left by different comets.

Space is big, RALLY BIG! Comets are tiny. Try dangling a grape seed in your living room and throw a dust particle at it from the door. Did you hit it? No, I didn't think so. Keep trying and in a million years or so you'll get a direct hit!

Earth has been hit by comets in the past (but more often by asteroids) and will be again. But why get all frothed up over a comet whose orbit is well defined?

There are theories that comets may carry viruses, but I don't think that has been proved yet.

I just don't get this whole thing about hiding from the public how the universe really works. 99.9% of the public couldn't give a ***k! Academics and scientists may argue over it, but eventually will have to agree with whatever the data actually shows.

Nick

[Wind]

Personally I'm just excited about comet ISON and I hope that I will see it on the night sky later this year. Even if I knew that it would cause havoc here I wouldn't my waste my time fearing of it. Life is too short for that.

[jagman]

Nick, I have a question for you. Do you think the government would lie to you or has lied
to you in the past? Just curious Nick.

[jagman]

My gut feeling is, that if a large X class flare
was about to hit the earth we would not
hear from our governments! They would be
to busy covering their own arses. :wave:

[Nick Matkin]

Nick, I have a question for you. Do you think the government would lie to you or has lied
to you in the past? Just curious Nick.

Hi Jagman.

Of course it has. But about the economy, reasons for war and whether or not it can read my email.

Most government apparatchiks don't know the difference between a comet and an electron, so are not really in a position to hide scientific information from anyone. Why would they concoct a conspiracy of mis-information about something esoteric as comets/solar activity/etc.?

Like I've said before, there are tens of thousands of independent (sometimes well-equipped amateur) specialists in all disciplines. They have websites and forums and magazines, many of which are accessible to anyone, without paying or subscribing. Theses specialists communicate with each other. They talk about new discoveries, theories and processes. They are not easily hoodwinked by 'sinister' government organizations trying to hide the truth - on anything.

If they smelt a rat, it wouldn't take long before any dodgy official story were exposed. Not all science in in the pockets of governments.

Nick

[jagman]

Nick, All science is not in the pocket of government but some are.
and that also why the Gov has a kill switch on the net and thats
not a conspiracy.

PS
Thier doing more than reading your email Nick...So much more.

[apollo41]

Get your suncream out? were doomed..

[jagman]

Get your suncream out? were doomed..

Sorry your sunscream wont help you if the grid goes down unless
you want to beat your meat one last time lol:wave:

[Rocky_Shorz]

so that blowout is still causing ripples a filament collapsed just a but ago causing first flare after long silence...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2013/c2/20130829/20130829_0736_c2_1024.jpg
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2013/c2/20130829/20130829_0612_c2_1024.jpg

waiting on latest flare pics...

[araucaria]

Sorry people, such a comparatively tiny object as a comet caused no CME when it hit the sun. I thought this seemed very unlikely so I checked - something we should do more often perhaps?

Just one minute's Googling came up with:

"SUNDIVING COMET AND FULL-HALO CME (http://spaceweather.com/): A small comet plunged into the sun on August 20th. Just before it arrived, [my emphasis] the sun expelled a magnificent full-halo CME..."

And:

"Sundiving comets - a.k.a. 'sungrazers (http://www.spaceguarduk.com/news-archive/88-spaceguard-uk/news/324-sundiving-comet-storm)' - are nothing new. SOHO typically sees one every few days, plunging inward and disintegrating as solar heat sublimes its volatile ices..."

So it's perfectly plausible that sooner or later a CME will happen around the of a comet impact.

Nick
You are suppposing that the comet's impact is what causes the CME. The Earth also has an electrical effect on the Sun but no contact is involved.

[Rocky_Shorz]

if this happens and we are in the direct path of the CME, watch for the EMV's to protect earth from radiation ...it's easy to forget how big our sun is, that blast was massive ... they say flying in a jet airliner at 400 mph or so, it would take 1,000 years to go around the sun one time ...

Not quite. The average commercial jet liner travels about 550 mph and the earth is somewhere around 26,000 miles in circumference. If you incorrectly assume it could make the trip without refueling it would take over 47 hours.

The sun is about 1,000,000 times the diameter of earth. The sun is approximately 4,366,813 kilometers (2,713,406 miles) in circumference.




2,700,000/26,000 = about 104

104 * 47 hours = 4888 hours
4888 hours / 24 day = about 203 days

That is much, Much, MUCH shorter than 1000 years!

All you have to do is check the facts...

(Sorry, my being a pedantic, pompous twat can be so irritating - even to me...)

Nick

spinning at 4 times the speed of earth, ~4000 MPH it takes slightly over 28 days for a complete rotation of the sun, and a moon cycle is the same, is it somehow related?


ps there are several ways to post in a forum, one is rock solid facts, as you are good at, in fact your replies are so confident, that most would never look to question you, which can be a good thing for fact finders...

now another...

Wow, was that an Alien Neutron Bomb that was launched on the sun, the explosion of that sun flare was enormous...

now I don't care how smart you are, curiosity will make you want to look...

regardless what you learn, it is pretty cool to watch another movie on a sun flare and see the energy flowing continuously outward...

now 10 minutes after a facts post, the numbers are forgotten to most...

but 10 minutes after the alien nuke, the mind is still rolling it around... unable to cast it away...

as for hiding truths, do you think the US government would tell the world the only reason we haven't been fried yet is we are having aliens in little round orb crafts preventing us from being hit by a direct explosion...

I call them our maintenance crew...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=22604

[DeDukshyn]

if this happens and we are in the direct path of the CME, watch for the EMV's to protect earth from radiation ...it's easy to forget how big our sun is, that blast was massive ... they say flying in a jet airliner at 400 mph or so, it would take 1,000 years to go around the sun one time ...

Not quite. The average commercial jet liner travels about 550 mph and the earth is somewhere around 26,000 miles in circumference. If you incorrectly assume it could make the trip without refueling it would take over 47 hours.

The sun is about 1,000,000 times the diameter of earth. The sun is approximately 4,366,813 kilometers (2,713,406 miles) in circumference.

2,700,000/26,000 = about 104

104 * 47 hours = 4888 hours
4888 hours / 24 day = about 203 days

That is much, Much, MUCH shorter than 1000 years!

All you have to do is check the facts...

(Sorry, my being a pedantic, pompous twat can be so irritating - even to me...)

Nick

Huh? The sun isn't 1,000,000 times the diameter of the earth ... but it does have about 1,000,000 x the volume. :P

[RMorgan]

Huh? The sun isn't 1,000,000 times the diameter of the earth ... but it does have about 1,000,000 x the volume. :P

Yep, the Sun/Earth diameter ratio is approximately 109.

Sun diameter = 1.392.000 Km

Earth diameter = 12.756 Km

The volume ratio is not 1.000.000 as well. It's 1.300.000. :)

Raf.

[Ammit]

Huh? The sun isn't 1,000,000 times the diameter of the earth ... but it does have about 1,000,000 x the volume. :P

Yep, the Sun/Earth diameter ratio is approximately 109.

Sun diameter = 1.392.000 Km

Earth diameter = 12.756 Km

The volume ratio is not 1.000.000 as well. It's 1.300.000. :)

Raf.

12.756 Km Raf...lol
Had me looking a few times, 12,756 Km

[Hervé]

... coming to think of it... (yeah, that happens too...)

... too many, repeated, "fortuities":


http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0302/neatcme_soho_big.jpg


Explanation: As Comet NEAT flared last week, the Sun roared. Just as the comet swooped inside the orbit of Mercury and developed a long and flowing tail of gas and dust, the Sun emitted a huge Coronal Mass Ejection (CME). Neither the fortuitous hot ball of solar gas nor the intense glare of sunlight appeared to disrupt the comet's nucleus. The action was too close to the Sun to be easily visible by humans, but the orbiting Sun-pointing SOHO satellite had a clear view of the celestial daredevil show. The above image was taken on February 18 when the comet was so bright it created an artificial horizontal streak on the camera image. During the encounter, Comet NEAT, official designation (C/2002 V1), brightened to second magnitude. An opaque disk blocked the Sun's image. The now-outbound comet remains bright but will surely fade as it moves away from the Sun. Nevertheless, Comet NEAT will likely be visible with binoculars to southern hemisphere observers for the next month. http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap030224.html

... which brings some solar winds to the sails of that "Electric Universe" hypothesis...

[Hervé]

[...]

12.756 Km Raf...lol
Had me looking a few times, 12,756 Km

Argghhh... those British-educated folks and their numerical annotations... unaware of the rest of the world... :)

[Nick Matkin]

if this happens and we are in the direct path of the CME, watch for the EMV's to protect earth from radiation ...it's easy to forget how big our sun is, that blast was massive ... they say flying in a jet airliner at 400 mph or so, it would take 1,000 years to go around the sun one time ...

Not quite. The average commercial jet liner travels about 550 mph and the earth is somewhere around 26,000 miles in circumference. If you incorrectly assume it could make the trip without refueling it would take over 47 hours.

The sun is about 1,000,000 times the diameter of earth. The sun is approximately 4,366,813 kilometers (2,713,406 miles) in circumference.

2,700,000/26,000 = about 104

104 * 47 hours = 4888 hours
4888 hours / 24 day = about 203 days

That is much, Much, MUCH shorter than 1000 years!

All you have to do is check the facts...

(Sorry, my being a pedantic, pompous twat can be so irritating - even to me...)

Nick

Huh? The sun isn't 1,000,000 times the diameter of the earth ... but it does have about 1,000,000 x the volume. :P

Ooops! Mea culpa! An embarrasing typo on my part. The sun is NOT 1,000,000 times the diameter of the earth.

The Sun's diameter is 864,950 miles more or less. Therefore the sun's circumference is about 2,713,400 miles.
The Earth's diameter (at the equator) is 7,926 miles. The Earth's circumference is 24,860 miles.

Nevertheless, it would still only take a jet plane about 200 days to fly found the sun.

(You see, when smug gits like me attempt to correct someone else's errors, the least we should do is get our facts right...)

Nick :o

[DeDukshyn]

Huh? The sun isn't 1,000,000 times the diameter of the earth ... but it does have about 1,000,000 x the volume. :P

Yep, the Sun/Earth diameter ratio is approximately 109.

Sun diameter = 1.392.000 Km

Earth diameter = 12.756 Km

The volume ratio is not 1.000.000 as well. It's 1.300.000. :)

Raf.

Hey, at least I included a safety net for an approximate accuracy in the word "about" :P