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araucaria
23rd August 2013, 11:13
Secrets of the UFO —Don Elkins & Carla Rueckert. Atlanta 1978
Most readers of the Law of One may not be familiar with the Don Elkins & Carla Rueckert story prior to that event, and even fewer will have seen them interviewed on TV as here. This is like an expanded version of Richard Dolan’s ten-minute presentation to former congressmen this year, and after thirty-five years, with the exception of the coverup, which has gone into overdrive since then, it covers practically all the ground that Dolan covers; this is both a tribute to Elkins’s sober, scientific handling of the data and a sign of the lack of progress if any that has been made in all that time. This being so, it deserves to reach a wider audience today, not as a historical document,

Don Elkins’s work established his channeling protocols as being UFO contact without the hardware component. He set a standard that few others have reached, and which Carla seems to have maintained through her contacts with the Q’uo principle, which invariably emphasizes the need for a discerning ear. I know they get a few mentions in Picknett and Prince’s The Stargate Conspiracy, but that book kind of shoots itself in the foot from the outset by taking the subtitle “Revealing the truth…” to warn against returning ancient gods. The only conspiracy perhaps here is the fact of lumping together a variety of material on the basis of ones’ own negative view. Quoted on the back cover is this somewhat ambiguous compliment from the Daily Mail: “Picknett and Prince are first-class storytellers”.

Be that as it may, this interview deals exclusively with the hard UFO evidence then available. Elkins is not talking about gods, just “nice people” visiting in craft that leave tangible evidence.


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(previously posted here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11889-Law-of-One&p=110136&viewfull=1#post110136 )

araucaria
23rd August 2013, 11:23
Written material covering much the same ground for the hard of hearing and others :)

http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speech_1981_0421.aspx

sunflower
23rd August 2013, 12:59
Hi Araucaria, thanks for this video. I hadn't noticed it when it was first posted on Avalon. Very interesting and a bit of a trip down memory lane. Don Elkins and Carla Rueckert are well-spoken credible people. I was particularly interested in their personal experiences with psychic surgery. I had heard about this from a psychic and researcher in our area who had witnessed similar phenomena in the Philippines and according to her they were authentic. She herself as well as one other person at another time mentioned that they had had gall bladder surgery. I have heard some controversy over the years regarding this type of healing so it can be challenging to separate the real from the fake.

araucaria
23rd August 2013, 13:30
Hi Araucaria, thanks for this video. I hadn't noticed it when it was first posted on Avalon. Very interesting and a bit of a trip down memory lane. Don Elkins and Carla Rueckert are well-spoken credible people. I was particularly interested in their personal experiences with psychic surgery. I had heard about this from a psychic and researcher in our area who had witnessed similar phenomena in the Philippines and according to her they were authentic. She herself as well as one other person at another time mentioned that they had had gall bladder surgery. I have heard some controversy over the years regarding this type of healing so it can be challenging to separate the real from the fake.
Hi Sunflower, thanks for highlighting that point. It is one thing to report on such matters, it is another to serve as the proverbial guinea pig. I am wondering about Carla's kidney transplant. Given that the organ seems to have been 'tailor-made', I suppose it would have her DNA; alternatively it might have a different signature, which would be concrete proof of her operation - except that no one is going to go in and check :)

sunflower
24th August 2013, 03:01
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Hi Sunflower, thanks for highlighting that point. It is one thing to report on such matters, it is another to serve as the proverbial guinea pig. I am wondering about Carla's kidney transplant. Given that the organ seems to have been 'tailor-made', I suppose it would have her DNA; alternatively it might have a different signature, which would be concrete proof of her operation - except that no one is going to go in and check :)[/QUOTE]

I hadn't thought of that. An organ transplant is certainly more complicated than simply removing an organ (gall bladder). I guess the medical doctors watching the procedure did not want to publicize their presence by documenting medical proof.

I do believe that Carla really believed that she had had a transplant. (pain, the incision, and the knife that was pulled out by Dr. Puharich.

Mark (Star Mariner)
24th August 2013, 17:08
This was an interesting clip which I hadn't seen before. It's from quite a long time ago, and was wondering what became of the two interviewees, Elkins and Rueckert, their research, what they are doing today, and how the transplant turned out in the long term...

It's interesting, and concerning, that this level of information was around 35 years ago - and even exposed/talked about on TV, but how so little knowledge and awareness has trickled down into the public awareness in the time that has passed. And I speak not just of UFOs here (the cover-up topic is well spoken for), but of the psychic surgery and such advanced metaphysical concepts. It is still not only merely unrecognized today by the medical community and the public at large, but to the vast majority completely unheard of. Obviously TPTB have worked hard, very hard over the years, to suppress these realities. :(

araucaria
25th August 2013, 08:25
This was an interesting clip which I hadn't seen before. It's from quite a long time ago, and was wondering what became of the two interviewees, Elkins and Rueckert, their research, what they are doing today, and how the transplant turned out in the long term...

It's interesting, and concerning, that this level of information was around 35 years ago - and even exposed/talked about on TV, but how so little knowledge and awareness has trickled down into the public awareness in the time that has passed. And I speak not just of UFOs here (the cover-up topic is well spoken for), but of the psychic surgery and such advanced metaphysical concepts. It is still not only merely unrecognized today by the medical community and the public at large, but to the vast majority completely unheard of. Obviously TPTB have worked hard, very hard over the years, to suppress these realities. :(
Don Elkins died at the end of the Lwa of One channellings after attracting considerable negative attention - see the supplementary Book V. And Carla is still going strong with the weekly channelling sessions with an entity called the Q'uo principle. I am not too heavily into channelling, but I make something of an exception in this case. There is a wealth of material up to the present day at her website llresearch.org (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/llresearch.org)[/URL].

Fyi there is an even vaster source of material at [URL]http://www.thesonsofthelawofone.com/ (http://www.llresearch.org)