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ThePythonicCow
2nd September 2013, 01:07
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23920541):




A controversial law banning Vietnamese online users from discussing current affairs has come into effect.

The decree, known as Decree 72, says blogs and social websites should not be used to share news articles, but only personal information.

The law also requires foreign internet companies to keep their local servers inside Vietnam.

It has been criticised by internet companies and human rights groups, as well as the US government.

Vietnam is a one-party communist state and the authorities maintain a tight grip on the media.

Dozens of activists, including bloggers, have been convicted for anti-state activity in the country this year.

The new law specifies that social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook should only be used "to provide and exchange personal information".

It also prohibits the online publication of material that "opposes" the Vietnamese government or "harms national security".

Last month the US embassy in Hanoi said it was "deeply concerned by the decree's provisions", arguing that "fundamental freedoms apply online just as they do offline".

Reporters Without Borders, a Paris-based group that campaigns for press freedom worldwide, has said the decree will leave Vietnamese people "permanently deprived of the independent and outspoken information that normally circulates in blogs and forums".

The Asia Internet Coalition, an industry group that represents companies including Google and Facebook, said the move would "stifle innovation and discourage businesses from operating in Vietnam".
Dang - glad I don't live there - I'd not live as long, nor remain far from prison.

fifi
2nd September 2013, 02:06
Dang - glad I don't live there - I'd not live as long, nor remain far from prison.

Exactly, that's why in the past, there were so many "Vietnamese boat people" risking their lives on tiny boats across the ocean seeking freedom.

panopticon
2nd September 2013, 03:10
So, not a coincidence that there are over 1.4 million users from Vietnam (along with 1.4 million from the Republic of Korea, over 4 million from China and 7.6 million from Taiwan) of the free VPN Gate (www.vpngate.net/en/) sofware.

I wonder how any Government thinks it can gain total control of the dissemination of information in this modern age?
-- Pan

Flash
2nd September 2013, 03:36
Anyhow, I can see this kind of law being promulgated in the USA or Europe and absolutely everyone, mostly i the Young generation, continuing to do exactly what they are doing now, not taking any of this crap into account. They could not arrest 80% of the population.

Crazy Louie
2nd September 2013, 04:54
As we go along Clif High is validated more and more with what he refers to as data gaps in the web going foward.

Credit where credit is due. Web Bot got it right.

Nothingness
2nd September 2013, 05:12
This reminds me of North Korea. A lot of negative issues going on. Suppression and war and abuse seem to be seeping out in a lot of places. I'm like: Is this a satanic holiday? I'll check. Well, there is a particularly nasty one coming up--definitely a celebration for the dark forces.

Laughing. I know. I don't know where that came from on my part. Just sort of slid out. Oh well, on a happier note. OK, so I couldn't find anything. Laughing. OK, this may last a while. Things change. OK, maybe not right away. Well, still laughing.

Spartacus
2nd September 2013, 09:11
Dang - glad I don't live there - I'd not live as long, nor remain far from prison.

Actually Paul, I bet you'd love it here.

You can see from my IP address that I'm in the centre of Saigon.

I've lived in here for 6 happy years and counting. Delightful people, beautiful country, perfect climate, great food, awesome coffee and cheap to live. It's also safe, fun and a great place to sit things out if the really big **** hits the fan.

I'd never even heard of this decree 72 until I began reading this thread. Knowing a little bit about how the Vietnamese work - this sounds like a load of bureaucratic nonsense designed to appease the fears of a few old generals and party hardliners while they're still warm and vertical. The new generation of young aspiring Vietnamese are far too smart and internet savvy for this to have any effect on the way they live their lives.

It's amusing to me that news agencies such as the BBC refer to Vietnam as a Communist state - whereas in reality there is nothing in Vietnamese political or social ideology that resembles anything close to an accepted definition of communism. And there never was. Cronyism maybe and corruption there certainly is - but that's true of just about everywhere.

I don't use a proxy IP or VPN here and I can get to just about anywhere on the internet except, unsurprisingly, the BBC.

Happy days.

ThePythonicCow
2nd September 2013, 14:44
I'd never even heard of this decree 72 until I began reading this thread. Knowing a little bit about how the Vietnamese work - this sounds like a load of bureaucratic nonsense designed to appease the fears of a few old generals and party hardliners while they're still warm and vertical. The new generation of young aspiring Vietnamese are far too smart and internet savvy for this to have any effect on the way they live their lives.
Awesome ... thanks for the "boots on the ground" update :).