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spiritguide
3rd September 2013, 17:15
This article gives an outlook on the meatonomics we are subject to.

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The Public Is Getting Totally Ripped Off on the Price of Meat, and Doesn't Know It

Our taxes subsidize the animal food industry.

August 22, 2013

The following is an excerpt from Meatonomics: How the Rigged Economics of Meat and Dairy Make You Consume Too Much—and How to Eat Better, Live Longer, and Spend Smarter by David Robinson Simon (Conari Press, 2013):

Imagine a bakery that sells every cake, pie, or loaf of bread for a dollar less than it costs to make. It’s a challenging business model, to say the least. But instead of going out of business, say the shop flourishes and expands, adding more ovens and increasing output for years. Impossible, right?

For a bakery, maybe. But not for America’s big producers of meat, fish, eggs, and dairy. The animal food industry actually uses this contrarian business model with surprising success. Take hog farmers, who routinely spend an average of eight dollars more rais­ing each pig than the animal yields when sold. The farmers, at least the big corporate operators, are in hog heaven. That’s because government subsidies actually make this business model profitable for those at the top. For the same reason, corporate beef producers routinely spend from $20 to $90 more than each animal’s value to raise cattle.

Each year, American taxpayers dish out $38 billion to subsidize meat, fish, eggs, and dairy. To put this corporate welfare package in perspective, it’s nearly half the total unemployment benefits paid by all fifty US states to unemployed workers in 2012. However, as we’ll see, unlike unemployment payments, subsidies don’t actually benefit many Americans—nor many farmers—and they are often disbursed in illogical and unfair ways. Consider this: media mogul Ted Turner and former NBA star Scottie Pippen were among the more than one thousand non-farming New York City residents to pick up farming checks from the federal government in 2007.

When it comes to the market for crops used as animal feed, which means the majority of crops grown in this country, Ameri­ca’s enormous farm subsidy program turns the system topsy-turvy. Bizarrely, government handouts encourage farmers to grow more of these crops even as prices decline. This is as backward as parents giving their kids extra money to make cold lemonade in the middle of winter. It just doesn’t make sense. Perhaps even worse than wast­ing the money, the consistent result of such a subsidy policy is to put small farmers out of business and damage rural communities here and abroad. But it doesn’t end there. Taxpayers also provide subsidies to encourage fishing even when it would otherwise be unprofitable. Yet with twice the number of fishing ships patrolling the seas than are necessary for the task, humans have already destroyed one-third of the ocean’s fisheries and, unless we cut back, are headed for complete destruction of all currently fished species within several decades.

Few Americans are aware of the realities of meatonomics—the economic system that supports our nation’s supply of animal foods— yet the peculiar economic forces powering our food system influence us in ways few imagine and nudge us to behave in ways we normally wouldn’t. Among its various effects, one of the most unsettling is that the system encourages us to eat much more meat and dairy than the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) advises.

Article link...

http://www.alternet.org/books/public-getting-totally-ripped-price-meat-and-doesnt-know-it?paging=off

Informative read.

Peace!

TargeT
3rd September 2013, 17:22
this is EXACTLY the same as Corn and all other agriculture... since the 1970's we have had a government stance of producing abundance... and they do it by subsidizing food producers, this is NOT just meat.


all "big food" is grown at a loss.

conk
3rd September 2013, 17:39
So, we subsidize and STILL get crappy meat that isn't fit for dogs? I've found a few local farmers who sell grass fed, clean beef for barely more than commercial beef. It can be found. Of course you must buy large quantities and freeze it to get the price break. "I sent you to the grocery for a steak and you bring home a cow?!"

spiritguide
3rd September 2013, 17:43
this is EXACTLY the same as Corn and all other agriculture... since the 1970's we have had a government stance of producing abundance... and they do it by subsidizing food producers, this is NOT just meat.


all "big food" is grown at a loss.

This is known to be for sure. This thread is just an opener to start lifting the fog on the systems we allowed the 1% to take advantage by buying our reps. Give the monies to big farmers and cut school lunches for hungry children. The political parties sure set us up didn't they.

Peace!

TargeT
3rd September 2013, 17:53
So, we subsidize and STILL get crappy meat that isn't fit for dogs? I've found a few local farmers who sell grass fed, clean beef for barely more than commercial beef. It can be found. Of course you must buy large quantities and freeze it to get the price break. "I sent you to the grocery for a steak and you bring home a cow?!"

we have an awesome 6,000 acer ranch here on island that has a speical breed of cow (though it's sadly very low on fat content :(, I just add bacon to the hamburger and don't mind the ultra lean steaks) called the Centipul, it's a dairy/beef cow that is naturally pulled and very very hearty, I can get steaks that a day or two ago were eating grass :-)



This thread does show a small facet of how Facist our government is howerver,, every single big corporation is tied closely to the government, with laws that protect the corporation (not regulate it) and kickbacks that ensure it stays on top.

the 1% crapping on everything else, it's sad.

conk
3rd September 2013, 18:06
TargeT, you talk about the fat in the meat. In clean meat the fat is extremely healthful. In grain fed, dirty meat the fat harbors the stuff we don't want in our body, the toxins. With most meat sold in the world being unhealthful, fat gets a bad reputation. Fats should not be demonized, but understood. Good, unprocessed, clean fats are critical to good health. Our friends and co-workers think we're insane for gulping down spoonsfull of coconut, flax, and olive oils.

Favorite desert: Whole, very ripe avocado. Tablespoon of raw cacao. Teaspoon of coconut oil. Stevia to taste. Blend the heck out of these ingredients and refrigerate. Delicious, lots of fat, and loads of nutrition. Wholesome chocolate pudding..... ;)

TargeT
3rd September 2013, 18:16
TargeT, you talk about the fat in the meat. In clean meat the fat is extremely healthful. In grain fed, dirty meat the fat harbors the stuff we don't want in our body, the toxins. With most meat sold in the world being unhealthful, fat gets a bad reputation. Fats should not be demonized, but understood. Good, unprocessed, clean fats are critical to good health. Our friends and co-workers think we're insane for gulping down spoonsfull of coconut, flax, and olive oils.

Favorite desert: Whole, very ripe avocado. Tablespoon of raw cacao. Teaspoon of coconut oil. Stevia to taste. Blend the heck out of these ingredients and refrigerate. Delicious, lots of fat, and loads of nutrition. Wholesome chocolate pudding..... ;)

yeah, I'm sad that the cows are so lean, fat is really good for humans & an excelent flavor enhancer (thats why I add bacon to my ground meat & cook in bacon grease).

that desert sounds like creamy deliciousness.. maybe a touch of vanilla extract too?

we are derailing this thread from outrage at the government's hidden money hand out programs to how amazing good food can be; and I'm fasting today too.... grrrr I wasn't hungry untill your post >.<

Tesla_WTC_Solution
3rd September 2013, 19:15
Let's cross our fingers and hope that VERTICAL FARMING takes off and makes produce (and smaller food animals like chickens) readily (and locally) available to people.

Vertical farming will allow cities to grow their own food, removing the need for the feds to involve themselves.

But those who oppose freedom will also be opposing the vertical farm.

Things that work too well are usually hidden... just ask tesla.