4- Scenarios - Put your Pre-Cog hats on - Which one is up?

[Bob]

Howdy

I find it's great to put one's thinking or visionary hats on now and then, especially where there are Fixed Points in Time, that are pivotal from which lots of new tracks, kinda how like roots in a tree spread out.. Any event that is of significance will create a backward time wave quantum signal, that can be picked up..

With all the Syrian Mideast Russian US Chinese stuff going on, and some talk about a new threat from space (planets, comets all that..), the 4 Scenarios below have been coming up over and over.. To me that means take a look.

The next couple weeks, and months seem to be about some of those pivotal points appearing, and possibly there are ways to change outcomes. (if we can perceive it we can change it..)

I sure would like to hear your opinions and thoughts and visions if you can see outcomes along these 4 scenarios. If we can identify, then we can get into creating positive change outcomes. I know there are other threads starting to talk on these solutions possible - I would like to look at the "quantum" or the "matrix storyboard entry" for those tracks, and see if they can be affected by discussion.

Please let's see if these 4 scenarios first are potentials, to stay focused and put these to bed, or neutralize them as needed. What I have seen when we can talk about it, we identify it, and then can come up with solutions for such. IDENTIFY then SOLVE.. thanks. BobD


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Scenario 1 -They (the US and any ally) are gonna get Syrian's Assad directly in a surgical hit - their logic is that successfully doing that will stop things instantly. It will "Cut the head off the snake", those are the exact words being used. Simultaneously Israel will have all its nukes trained on Russia and Iran. The moment ANYTHING starts to fly at Israel, they will let launch on Moscow and Tehran. That is the hair pin trigger. If everyone just "shuts up" as far as Russia Israel and they let the US and whomever allies will assist, and surgically eliminate Assad, everything WILL be fine is what they say.

Scenario 2 - They (the US and any ally) are gonna hit some chemical and biological locations with bunker busters. This opens up a slow wound, everyone starts rabble rousing, and Iran activates its "sleeper cells" in the US - Disney-World Florida is hit with a chemical attack using the air conditioning systems and Orlando airport is hit (Ammonia gas is released from the cooling systems). US "freaks out" and activates a massive strike on Syria saying to the world "Syrian terrorists attacked the US mainland" (a new 911 where "children" and families are killed on the US mainland, killed like the children in the chemical assaults in Syria) - US public freaks out, banks crash, Wall-street shuts off, petrol goes to 10$ a gallon in the US, there is no heating fuel this winter for all of the Eastern and Northern US, everyone basically in the US crashes (all businesses shut down), World economy tanks, fuel for Europe is reduced to nil, and China takes over the "help package" and offers solutions, and Russia gets pissed - cuts off energy to Europe, world collapses start happening again, and again China picks up the pieces we all learn Chinese and Mandarin duck becomes a staple.

Scenario 3 - Russia, in cahoots with the US and with US blessings, whacks Assad secretly (nobody is sure who whacked Assad). Russia activates their "sleepers" in Tehran and proceed to take out their key leaders, and install a puppet government as they have during the cold war days (old tried and true game play). Russia takes Iranian spoils and sets the new oil price for the world. Russia starts selling oil/gas to China since China can't get from Iran (as the oil it was buying previously from Iran would now be under "new management"). The US watches and does nothing (tells Putin behind the scenes "very well done dude!"). China does nothing, says it's more predictable now what Russian sales would be like than the uncertainty coming out of the previous Iranian regime. Russia and China mutually fund the Syrian Iranian new Mideast PIPELINE for hydrocarbon transport. Israel keeps doing it's thing of having "big brother US" look out for herself and keeps the Hill guided and focused behind the scenes. Status quo, but the point was to get the OIL from Iran and Syria to be managed by Russia who will sell it to China and others in a more stable way than the prior regimes did.

Scenario 4 - A comet hits and there is no discussion about economies or other countries being taken over. The survivors on Earth try to find clean air, clean water - hopefully all the prepers have created some methods of providing clean air and water as the air is laden with dust and rock - volcanoes light up and spew their contents, including acids poisons rocks dust lava. Electricity now only is by local generator for whomever has fuel. Barter is the only way to trade. Some Ham stations around the world provide "media" coverage, and the equivalent of the internet happens (one way broadcasts) from the short wave exchanges. The hams use Highband for relaying then Lowband short distance local broadcasting on AM radio for updating the public. (future outcome is somewhat foggy, like 15-20 years to rebuild some type of structure)

No doubt there are more, but the above has come up.

Thoughts? What do you get?

BobD

[Camilo]

What you place your attention on, it will manifest in your reality

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Those were just close to the truth to be extremely humorous suggestions.
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[Maunagarjana]

No clue, man. All I know is I would definitely not want to be in Tehran or Tel Aviv if things escalate. I would not expect anyone would be crazy enough to try to attack the US or Russia though. But who knows?

[Sunny-side-up]

Manifest this:
Those who where against violence and believed in spiritual love as truth, who believe in friendly Aliens are saved by said Aliens whom read our minds and so picked us, picked us to live in peace with free energy and open contact on Earth so we can rebuild and heal her..The Other, TPTB and all will be removed once and for all!

[Bob]

What you place your attention on, it will manifest in your reality

My attention is on Earth - I guess it works !

[Bob]

No clue, man. All I know is I would definitely not want to be in Tehran or Tel Aviv if things escalate. I would not expect anyone would be crazy enough to try to attack the US or Russia though. But who knows?

I was over in the Mideast earlier this year, Abu Dhabi, the sentiment was the big boys want to destroy it for everyone. That was the mindset. I observed that. There was no let's come up with solutions, there was hate for the big boys who are upsetting the apple cart. There was no let's talk love, let's talk visioning, there was vibe and talk of "the big boys" are going to wreck it for everyone, and they won't be able to do their day to day living. Everything would be busted. I found this with the locals and business leaders and key heads of state.

So OBSERVE means not putting the head in the sand - step two says when you have observed then you can choose scenarios and get back to being cause over your own space, and what's happening. I think the NOT looking or not believing what is happening is part of the issue -

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Those were just close to the truth to be extremely humorous suggestions.
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And to talk about it is to disarm it.

[Bob]

What you place your attention on, it will manifest in your reality

If you are at cause point, you observe and then choose
If you are at effect point, you ride the ride and what happens is what happens

If you are a watcher - one can get the tickets from the Ferengi down at the gates trying to capitalize on the game

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peace

[Lefty Dave]

How about a fifth scenario ....continual sabre rattling...(as long as we're caught up in fear mongering...nothing gets done)...and as usual, nothing happens...I'm quite tired of all this, personally. Can we move on ?
Imagine what America would be like today...if we'd have spent the $Trillions$ on rebuilding infrastructure, restoring our manufacturing base, built new rail/bus systems, cleaned up our messes...Oil spill, Katrina, Sandy...WOW...we'd all be looking and feeling pretty good, yes?
end of line.

[Bob]

How about a fifth scenario ....continual sabre rattling...(as long as we're caught up in fear mongering...nothing gets done)...and as usual, nothing happens...I'm quite tired of all this, personally. Can we move on ?
Imagine what America would be like today...if we'd have spent the $Trillions$ on rebuilding infrastructure, restoring our manufacturing base, built new rail/bus systems, cleaned up our messes...Oil spill, Katrina, Sandy...WOW...we'd all be looking and feeling pretty good, yes?
end of line.

Absolutely Scenario 5

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Bob]

According to http://debka.com/article/23255/Obama-and-Putin-hold-unproductive-face-to-face-US-pulls-non-essential-staff-from-Beirut-SE-Turkey there's still posturing going on, but with Russia's aircraft-carrying cruiser docked until December (http://thediplomat.com/the-editor/2013/09/04/russias-aircraft-carrier-to-visit-syrian-naval-base/), I don't see anything major happening that would disrupt the geopolitical balance yet. It's all posturing at the moment...no significant action to realign the balance in favor of one side or the other...yet.

What will tip the apple carts is the money - please review http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63030-Lindsey-Williams-Elite-Emergency-Data.

Remember, the name of the game is CONTROL. CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL...that's paramount to the folks kicking it in the trillionaire range, as well as to those who control the flow of information. How funny...computer wants to add 'trillionaire' to the dictionary. Who would like to come up with a definition of trillionaire beyond the most obvious one?

Control of resources, maintaining control of cash-flow, maintaining control of people's freedom to spend and have discretionary funds, control of communications including control of thought and outreach, and control of spiritual belief..

OK more identification then happening - each aspect of control then can be addressed - point in the end tho, will a person be able to control themselves by themselves and make the right choices?

[AutumnW]

Nothing happens. The Saudi, Israeli, Quatari, U.S. have to back right up. Congress forbids any strike as their constituents are threatening to vote them out of office if they don't toe the line. This is a big tent issue. American citizens don't wants a strike. When you have Nader, Ron Paul AND the Koch brothers all against it for different reasons...it ain't gonna happen.

[Lifebringer]

I see the world against it, and the leaders doing it anyway, and those who have awakened and able to begin living in peace will be taken from here. I see a clearing of those at the top, by the people on the bottom and middle. I see public trials, and the force of the awakened ones uniting to lift this planet's vibration and gravity in doing so, where it speeds up and the crossing has us no longet in the tail, but in the front of the comit before the crossing, with minimal cataclysms, earthquakes, and tsunami's driving people back 100 miles from the shores on either side. The ring of fire activated, and the tsunami's putting them out as the planet/comet passes.
Then the world will know the mercy and the visitors will explain it as it happens to us, and the planet. First by satelite communication in every language, and then by sight. The years it takes for the atmosphere to repair and clear, will have us spending time elsewhere below or above, don't know, but somewhere where we can be taught what was hidden and be united with our universal brethren.

I'm putting something in one of my books I was told to write, about a slave system on Mars where the "milk carton kids" were taken and raised in slave labor to mine on Mars. I see a rescue by those who rescue the good on Earth also. It's why I'm putting it in my book. Funny thing is, I was almost editing and very tired the other night, and me and hubby sat down to watch a sci=fi net flix movie. The slipped a virus or someting in and I've got black screen. I had the pc on that morning from 6:30 am and now my books are in a black screen, and I have to wait until I can afford to have someone rescue them. I've been attacked by at least 80-100 times and detection was picked up and I got to see them. NOW the screen is black and I can't see the desktop to pull it up, use the start to retrieve. Praying something happens, I'm on my hubby's temporarily, but I feel the time to tell the story is being cut short. I need to get it to the presses by November. At least one of the trilogy.

Well, that's what I've been seeing and I really hope its true, because this place has sucked all my life, with little opportunity to expand you creative mind, and shut down in depressive oppression discriminatorily selected to succeed, if you carry the "greed."


Cayce, Nostradamus, pre-cogs say strike on 27th December, and then after that, the world will not be as it's ever been before. Major changes. So if they "bring it on" Divine will intervene, if they shunt it for two months, w/30 day extension, that puts it in December, right?

Hmm...It has to do with Iran, because the temples there, haven't been plundered for knowledge.

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Rosieposie]

Any news on the sun by chance? We could toss a solar event in there to jazz things up.

Either way I see it at last chance at a nasty stunt for the big boys, if they pull one now I'm fairly sure the already thin veil of denial that the general public has will break altogether. Sadly they may only need to do it once more seeing how delicate everything is atm. It's still a possibility public pressure and people from within the system causing stalemates might be successful at preventing US and co from causing too much trouble in Syria, we can only hope.

Unfortunately I do think (well more feel and have all my life) that there may be need for evacuations as done by benevolent ETs, I had a friend when I was younger who had all sorts of dreams of taking people underground and she was helping guide people through the shock of it all etc. I don't know if it will be on a global scale or just areas but it was always told to me that it would be a choice, there would be an option that lets people decide if they go or not. Maybe it won't be global and my apple trees and chickens will be ok? lol I hope I'm wrong on this one although it could be a neat adventure if I'm not.

[Bob]

By Lifebringer:
Cayce, Nostradamus, pre-cogs say strike on 27th December, and then after that, the world will not be as it's ever been before. Major changes. So if they "bring it on" Divine will intervene, if they shunt it for two months, w/30 day extension, that puts it in December, right?

Hmm...It has to do with Iran, because the temples there, haven't been plundered for knowledge.

Thank you sooo much for the story, the feeling it's important to write it down and tell about it. That means a lot that you are choosing to act, to follow what is in your heart and mind :)

hugs,

Bob

[Bob]

Default Re: 4- Scenarios - Put your Pre-Cog hats on - Which one is up?
Meanwhile, here's yet another "bail-in":
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...eign-debt-load

About a week ago, I "pre-cog'd" December as the timeframe when humanity would be facing the abyss...not sure how to interpret the experience, other than to recognize that big decisions will be made by the end of the year that will impact all of humanity.

My feeling is when the events are sufficiently engrained into the "matrix" a backward time wave happens, traveling in two directions - outwards.. One part of the wave goes forward towards "end time" (the omega point), the other goes backwards to the alpha point, (the beginning).. In the "past so to speak" if we are linear time beings we should be able to experience events about the same duration as they "last".. So if now is September and you are feeling the event is in December - thats lets say, thats at least 2 months past December things should be going on for - a 2 month long EVENT would be possible..

Along that line then, a BLIP merely would be a blip in the future and so forth..

Anyone else seeing something in December as the Window? A two month long duration for the Event?

Bob

[Bob]

Any news on the sun by chance? We could toss a solar event in there to jazz things up.

Either way I see it at last chance at a nasty stunt for the big boys, if they pull one now I'm fairly sure the already thin veil of denial that the general public has will break altogether. Sadly they may only need to do it once more seeing how delicate everything is atm. It's still a possibility public pressure and people from within the system causing stalemates might be successful at preventing US and co from causing too much trouble in Syria, we can only hope.

Unfortunately I do think (well more feel and have all my life) that there may be need for evacuations as done by benevolent ETs, I had a friend when I was younger who had all sorts of dreams of taking people underground and she was helping guide people through the shock of it all etc. I don't know if it will be on a global scale or just areas but it was always told to me that it would be a choice, there would be an option that lets people decide if they go or not. Maybe it won't be global and my apple trees and chickens will be ok? lol I hope I'm wrong on this one although it could be a neat adventure if I'm not.

Hi Rosie - just prior to your post AddSub felt something happening in December. I pointed out thats a 2 month precog - in experience a two month precog means a 2 month duration effect till it whatever "it" is dies out.

We need to have solar stability at least until February to be over the hump so to speak with the potential for any extreme "detonations" (larger than X-Class flares and CME's --{coronal mass ejections}--) there are some programs that are being run to quantumly address solar issues and hurricanes (on the east coast).. We'll see if that stays stable, another post another story on that one..

Suffice to say, starting October thru February is the period for make/break in the solar cycle. Quantum STABILITY is possible.
I am curious about the actions of and from "people within the system" able to see the light and get off the "stuck on stupid" merry go round cycle. Maybe they would wake up and sense public opinion and sense the wave of change happening. I just don't know, there are so many potential outcomes.

I feel in my heart of hearts, we have an opportunity of moving past and going into stewardship.

Bob

[Bright Garlick]

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[ghostrider]

the troop movements and warhead movements to south carolina for operation Urban shield , just about the time the syrian thing goes down, our government cabal will kick off a major false flag and blame it on syria or Russia and the mindset of Americans will change and we will go balls to wall on Syria and Russia ... all under a false attack created by our regime ... it will divide the country and lead us to a civil war here in the states ... After the war has begun , then down the road , all in the same week , we will see the death of another icon , a virus scare, the war escalate , drones strikes go off target , another train derails , and another U.S. company bought by China ... the great divide between government and it's CEO citizens will be so far apart you can drive the grand canyon between it ... if I am wrong , it will be a happy day , happy , happy , happy ...

[Chanlo23]

Scenario 3 seems more likely and far more charged to me than the others. I believe Putin and Obama having been putting on a show for folks, positioning Russia to stabilize chaos in the middle east. Arabic and eastern nations would find Russian takeover of Iran/Syria far more palatable than the U.S. or Israel. I would find a solar event more likely as a 'natural disaster' type scenario 4 than a comet, but that still seems less likely than any of the others. And, I do see Scenario 5 as mentioned as that seems to be the 'fall back' scenario that is engrained in the current game.

[The Truth Is In There]

What you place your attention on, it will manifest in your reality

doesn't work. i've tried numerous times to wipe us all out via asteroid impact. so far, no success, as you can see ;)

[Billy]

Scenario 5. second optional potential.

Congress decide to listen to the people and vote no attack on Syria.

Although Obama still has the option to attack, Realizing that you cannot destroy violence with more violence. he decides it is more than his job is worth to not listen to the people and backs down.

France decides not to go alone, and backs down.

The rebel fighters Realizing that Assad is not going to be attacked by outsiders. Assad and the rebel fighters realizing that this civil war will never end. Both sides agree to meet round the peace table. A seize fire is implemented.

Both sides agree that the country is already divided politically and Religiously. To stop the slaughter and find a peaceful solution,The only option left is to divide the country physically.

A peace treaty is signed. The slaughter ends.
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I know. In my dreams. :ohwell:

Continued. Why not.

The people of Israel get fed up being at war with their neighbours And demand a solution that would benefit all sides. They are offered a new home in a new country.

The people of Israel accept.

The Palestinian people reclaim back the land that was taken from them. But do not move into Old Israel or Jerusalem.

All sides agree to transform the Holy Land into a Center of learning and knowledge.
Universities of science and Advanced technology and Schools of learning are built and people from all around the world go to study the True History of humanity sharing ideas and visions on how to improve our planet for the betterment of all humanity.

Armageddon never happens and we all live in peace.

[Bob]

Scenario 5. second optional potential.

Congress decide to listen to the people and vote no attack on Syria.

Although Obama still has the option to attack, Realizing that you cannot destroy violence with more violence. he decides it is more than his job is worth to not listen to the people and backs down.

France decides not to go alone, and backs down.

The rebel fighters Realizing that Assad is not going to be attacked by outsiders. Assad and the rebel fighters realizing that this civil war will never end. Both sides agree to meet round the peace table. A cease fire is implemented.

Both sides agree that the country is already divided politically and Religiously. To stop the slaughter and find a peaceful solution,The only option left is to divide the country physically.

A peace treaty is signed. The slaughter ends.
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Part 5a

The people of Israel get fed up being at war with their neighbours And demand a solution that would benefit all sides. They are offered a new home in a new country.

The people of Israel accept.

The Palestinian people reclaim back the land that was taken from them. But do not move into Old Israel.

All sides agree to transform the Holy Land into a Center of learning and knowledge.

Universities of science and Advanced technology and Schools of learning are built
and people from all around the world go to study the True History of humanity
sharing ideas and visions on how to improve our planet for the betterment of all humanity.

Armageddon never happens and we all live in peace.


Really, really kewel viewpoint there Billyji tnx.

Bob

[Bob]

What you place your attention on, it will manifest in your reality

doesn't work. i've tried numerous times to wipe us all out via asteroid impact. so far, no success, as you can see ;)

Something possibly people haven't gotten, on the manifestation thingy..

It deals with automatics - things running on automatic that people forget, like when did you take your last breath? When did you last swallow ? Those are automatics with an ability to modify with free will. Breath holding is a bit more complicated, it can be held but after a point one has to breath cause trigger mechanisms force one to breath.

If there is an automatic saying "nothing that i ever do works", then that automatic forces something that goes invisible in the consciousness to remain there, in action, without the person perceiving it.

On the quote of Camilo "What you place your attention on, it will manifest in your reality.." my reply was well I am here on Earth so it must work.. I was kinda fooling around there, cause having put my attention on Earth, it is definitely manifesting in my reality. So that is also an automatic taken for granted. I ignore the air above me, but it's there, and its a heavy pressure on me. I may say "I find that clear and clean air now is the reality about me..", and the machine that would make such clear and clean has been started, but the immense MASS of the air, and all the counter-automatics about me are all doing their thing, maybe there is some counter-programming happening too.

I say YES, something says NO, i say REALLY YES and it may say sure whatever... or it may say NO NO so although I may want it, that I am putting my attention on it, for that brief moment, it's real to me, but the group reality may say, nope won't happen (and some really vulgar expletive said if I persist in being against the group tide).

So on the MANIFEST issue, there is a strong physics and metaphysics involved.

The mind is a frequency space thingy. (EH ??)

Vibration in other words. Vibrations are tones frequencies. Imagine information thoughts really are like musical tones in the body, all circulating around dancing and harmonizing (when things work right), and that symphony plays for one, and allows one to have a "reality". One perceives something happening outside of the body and makes a judgement call - says "NOPE its not right" and then wants to change it. Does one know the dance needed to interact with the thingies out there to affect a graceful change, or does one throw in a monkey wrench, or toss in a nuke (if one is that powerful to have that large a chaos changer)...

Those with the skill of the song, can use a little tonal shift and shift the whole world, and then as a conductor play some most amazing tunes..

So that's the HINT on the manifestation thingy - putting the attention on it, is the first step, there are a bunch of other steps needed to get the actualization.

It's an absolutely fascinating subject the idea of STEWARDSHIP MAGIC - PRACTICAL 101 - - before that comes LEARNING ONESELF, HOW DID I GET HERE?

hugs,

Bob

(PS on the asteroid assault, there have been quite a few assaults such as the one over Russia recently, so you were successful really, just there were others saying nope, that's not the desired game.. Many folks have said its about time to start over, sorry cap't no intelligent life down here, beam me up.. many folks have said, the kiddies are just starting to learn who they are, so letting them play with matches, (nukes) maybe is a bit premature.)

[Bob]

Scenario 3 seems more likely and far more charged to me than the others. I believe Putin and Obama having been putting on a show for folks, positioning Russia to stabilize chaos in the middle east. Arabic and eastern nations would find Russian takeover of Iran/Syria far more palatable than the U.S. or Israel.

I would find a solar event more likely as a 'natural disaster' type scenario 4 than a comet, but that still seems less likely than any of the others.

And, I do see Scenario 5 as mentioned as that seems to be the 'fall back' scenario that is ingrained in the current game.

Some of the solar stabilization efforts effectively was accomplished - using "quantum holographics". It's been pretty stable in shutting down the CME's and Flares, and another version of it has been shutting down US East Caribbean weather anomalies (cyclones). I would think another quantum holographic stabilization system could be setup for world peace stewardship (the need for "consciousness inventory assessment" would be needed, and some very adept sensitives to look at what is happening to provide feedback for the stabilization network). BobD

[Bob]

the troop movements and warhead movements to south carolina for operation Urban shield ,

just about the time the syrian thing goes down, our government cabal will kick off a major false flag and blame it on syria or Russia

and the mindset of Americans will change and we will go balls to wall on Syria and Russia ... all under a false attack created by our regime ...

it will divide the country and lead us to a civil war here in the states ...

After the war has begun , then down the road , all in the same week , we will see the death of another icon
, a virus scare,
the war escalate ,
drones strikes go off target ,
another train derails ,
and another U.S. company bought by China ...

the great divide between government and it's CEO

citizens will be so far apart you can drive the grand canyon between it ...

if I am wrong , it will be a happy day ,

happy , happy , happy ...

Very good observation on the current state of affairs !

To solve such issues, one has to identify - identify the primary feeling that is happening, is it hopeless-ness, frustration, feeling lied to, cheated that America isn't the land of plenty and opportunity ? Those are the things that jump out at me when I read and think about what you observed.

I would get into substituting then the opposites for the observations - what happens is a nullification as the two opposites are blended.

Mentally apply a concept of the opposite of the "issue" pointed out in the Quote. Feel the charges in the opposite and allow them to discharge against each other.

One does not just remove the two opposites when applying them to each other.. After the charges have discharged (and it may be a bit dramatic, but hold your space firm) - one performs a gentle moving away from the two terminals, dis-engaging in other words, to get back to a null neutral point. Allow the two image concepts fade away.

At that point a new game can be declared and started.

Bob

[Bob]

Manifest this:
Those who where against violence
and believed in spiritual love as truth,
who believe in friendly Aliens
are saved by said Aliens
whom read our minds
and so picked us, picked us to live in peace
with free energy
and open contact
on Earth so we can rebuild
and heal her..
The Other, TPTB and all will be removed once and for all !

I am reminded of the Programs that are currently placed into Humanity as a culture. The culture runs as an undercurrent. The undercurrent becomes an Automatic. An automatic constantly blocks and creates opposition waves, disbelief..

Some examples:
The Day the Earth Stood Still - 1951 version. Aliens know that the happenings on Earth are not good, and Earth is a threat to the rest of STAR CIVILIZATION. The emissary is shot not once but twice by the HUMANS, making it clear that humanity is not anything but savage.

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To Serve Man - 1962 Twilight Zone Episode by Rod Serling - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone) This "program" was and is a very strong mental undercurrent inducer and was present in 1962 so it is very deeply lain into human mindsets. This episode is highly lain into popular culture and IS an undercurrent.

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I mention in another post, one needs to discharge the undercurrents, or the opposite charges to the desired outcome, and then the doors open for quantum possibilities to happen.

hugs,

Bob

[DouglasDanger]

IMHO What will happen is what the USA has already been told is going to happen, AS soon as it is given the green light and the main stream media lets out that the attack on Assad has gone through, China is going to dump all US bonds causing the financial meltdown everyone has been waiting for. No nukes from Russia China or Iran. Just the US of A imploding on itself in spectacular fashion while the world watches.

[Bob]

IMHO What will happen is what the USA has already been told is going to happen,

AS soon as it is given the green light and the main stream media lets out that the attack on Assad has gone through,

China is going to dump all US bonds
causing the financial meltdown everyone has been waiting for.

No nukes from Russia China or Iran.

Just the US of A imploding on itself in spectacular fashion while the world watches.

Howdy DouglasDanger

Some curious questions, if the idea to disarm and discharge the event(s) by viewing potentialities, if you are saying "it" has already happened, did somebody take out Assad while we all weren't looking already, or is that something that is about to happen. I am a bit confused on the vibe u are seeing..

China sure has a lot of credit notes on US interests weoh !

They fascinate me. And the capitalistic mindset and the Chinese mindset, who would have thunk it that they would be so tied together. Who was it Mao, saying if the war can be won through greed, give them something that they want and then make it impossible to pay it back, then take them over when they plead for mercy... (?)

In a world of abundance, materials wise, in a world with so much technology, so much spirituality, it just is so hard to fathom that there are those who feel shortage manipulation will let them rule all.

What has capitalism gotten china? More pollution that she has ever seen, people dying and crops damaged. And not enough energy because of the mentality that shortage manipulation is good for the economy. How can it?

SO the world watches while the US is taken out, the spoils taken out and distributed to whom? Who is going to maintain the factories, who is going to run the farms? Who is going to fly the planes for the foreigners to go to the US to run it?

If that is the scenario possibly then what one will see is the US willingly giving into UN troops, to surrender its military to the UN? The movie Red Dawn comes to mind. Russians land and start to take over and people fight back.

People aren't disarmed yet. There are many cities across the country where the local police and sheriff's have insisted that to live there each person over the age of 18 must have a way of defending themselves, preferable armed with some fire weapon.

Do you suppose that these people have heard about the "plan" to disarm then take over? Are they going to go quietly?

What if the US just says "nya nya.. gotcha.. suck eggs China and thanks for all the fish.." or some sorta thing saying sorry u call the notes and nobody is going to honor the commitment to pay them back. And if you put one foot over here, we light up all our nukes and our allies light up all their nukes and the oil goes away that you wanted. No oil china, think of that.. again, you were going to call some notes, you say?

Just wondering.

Just some questions to try to get more clarity on what you are seeing, and what timetable is appearing..

thanks

Bob

[Bob]

Scenario - 6
Seems that an alternative has appeared, Russia says, HEY we will take your Chemical Weapons (as they took the nukes from the Baltic states under the former Iron Curtain, but actually never accomplished that leaving mini-nukes out there for terrorists to grab..)...

The extrapolation on that actually is, lets let the UN take the Chemical Weapons and control them. The US may then say, well if you do that we INSIST that they be destroyed. I sure hope we hear something about ALL the chemicals and BIOLOGICAL weapons (including those in Tel Aviv, not just Syria), be removed and destroyed. How about the Chems that the US still has, that Russia still has?

So the White House seems to be toning down JUST a little bit on the Strike Syria Now drumbeat..

we will see.

Please keep up the scenario identifications folks, it really is discharging the issues.

Thanks,

Bob

[Ernie Nemeth]

Leaving room for the unexpected:

I think it will happen, like a thief in the night...like a sheep in wolf's clothing. It will be nothing anticipated, nothing considered before. A completely new idea that will sweep across the world and make obsolete the old ideas, paradigms and most importantly the institutions that today enslave us all.

[Carmody]

IF..the US were to try and hit Syria, I expect supersonic torpedoes to be used against their fleet. (super-cavitation torpedoes) (250-300mph/425kph)

Of all the armaments that can be brought against a given US naval based force, this is the most formidable, direct, and impossible to stop.

With such a torpedo, there are no nukes or missiles flying through the air.

Nothing to respond to. No airborne threat.

but.... one fleet would be written off.

[Bob]

Leaving room for the unexpected:

I think it will happen, like a thief in the night...like a sheep in wolf's clothing. It will be nothing anticipated, nothing considered before. A completely new idea that will sweep across the world and make obsolete the old ideas, paradigms and most importantly the institutions that today enslave us all.

Wondering on that one Ernie - I get the drift, just wondering if the thread is about viewing and disarming scenarios by viewing, maybe we need to be a tad more specific. I get the idea of something insidious masquerading as something else will appear and "do(?)" something? Is "do something" the consideration? Inventory in the US is more and more are saying it's wrong that Syria used Chems. The action to be taken (why should an action be taken against a "wrong" maybe really is the philosophical spiritual) - that is the question now.

Why must an action be taken?

Obviously fear is the motivator in the viewpoint - but as others have pointed out, control is the underlying factor. Fear based control. If the viewpoint is switched to why should any knee jerk reaction happen to any thing... does that disarm anything or does it allow rampant out-of-control chaos?

So maybe (thinking out loud here), good control is needed, through appropriate spiritual education of consequences?

Bob

[Bob]

IF..the US were to try and hit Syria, I expect supersonic torpedoes to be used against their fleet. (super-cavitation torpedoes) (250-300mph/425kph)

Of all the armaments that can be brought against a given US naval based force, this is the most formidable, direct, and impossible to stop.

With such a torpedo, there are no nukes or missiles flying through the air.

Nothing to respond to. No airborne threat.

but.... one fleet would be written off.

Hey there Carmody

supersonic torpedoes - gee that sure sounds like a lot of water resistance to deal with. I would be curious to here somewhere how that mechanism is created to deal with the bow wave shock and then steer such.

Are these things Russian tech? Seems to me it takes brains to design such and I haven't met anyone in the mideast capable of designing something that complex yet alone guide it with some system.

If the US takes out the "head of the snake" as is being discussed now on the major news services (interesting they picked up on the precog observation too), who would be left to follow any "standing orders" to retaliate?

If the idea is to discharge the scenario, it seems to me identifying the key retaliatory terminals is important, as their mindsets would be about continuing wars.

I don't think they can use fear-control motivation as that seems to get into one-ups-man-ship and those pissing matches get nowhere fast (i.e. political rhetoric).

(love some of your techy posts)

Bob

[Gardener]

Starting to get the gist of this apposing thoughts going into a neutralising zone, if both sides in a war pray to their higher power to be the winners. Which is similar to what is going on inside us on a personal basis.

I got to thinking that some 'leaders' will secretly read a few forums and sites, and even though quite small in the scheme of things, Avalon has a certain quality and flavour which would put it on that list. I hope they do, *waves*.

Barack, Mr Prez, what kind of a world do you want for your daughters and your grandchildren? What would your grandmother advise? Stop listening to those stupid hawks and sqawking zionist armageddonists, think about your daughters, think about your grandmother. This is the apocalyps, the unveiling and revealing, who will you be when naked before the world?

[Bob]

Starting to get the gist of this apposing thoughts going into a neutralising zone, if both sides in a war pray to their higher power to be the winners. Which is similar to what is going on inside us on a personal basis.


Howdy Gardener - I think you hit it there. Spot on ! Thanks :)

Bob

[Agape]

It's 'interesting' . Looks like WW3 preps have been given full go, from one side it seems almost inevitable .
But this is latest 'interview' of Pres Assad http://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/assad-foolish-strike-us-matters-090800082.html , he looks weak and trembling, no matter what he says to the US reporter , he knows he will have to face the consequences of his past actions, and pretty soon.
Mum noted the other day that he was ophthalmologist as his first volition and how such a man can assume responsibility for warheads .

We're mostly , far away from Syria but what's going on makes many people cry . You can see the moods in peoples faces when going out and the feelings are serious .

There should be an option 5 .

Either Assad is lying, consciously and willingly, that's what we all think or I'm wrong . Give him a peaceful ultimatum allowing opening the borders to UN mission troops , the Red Cross and humanitarian aid to victims .
If there is some remaining healthy reasoning and humane sense in him, it will be in his own interest and peoples interest and no one shall suffer any harms .

If he is not able to respond to such an ultimatum, there have to be ways how to call as many civilians to safety as possible before continuing with any war .

Try to get support of other Arabian nations for solving the situation no matter how difficult it seems, on humanitarian terms .

I know it seems that we cry for them and they're the least concerned about their own people dying .



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[Agape]

Slightly off topic ...

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The former girlfriend of North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un has been executed by a firing squad for allegedly violating laws banning pornography. Hyon Song Wol was a singer whom Kim reportedly dated a decade ago, but abandoned the relationship after his father Kim Jong Il forced him to do so. She and a dozen other performers were shot to death on August while their families and former band members were forced to watch.

Troublesome girlfriend ...


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[Ernie Nemeth]

Leaving room for the unexpected:

I think it will happen, like a thief in the night...like a sheep in wolf's clothing. It will be nothing anticipated, nothing considered before. A completely new idea that will sweep across the world and make obsolete the old ideas, paradigms and most importantly the institutions that today enslave us all.

Wondering on that one Ernie - I get the drift, just wondering if the thread is about viewing and disarming scenarios by viewing, maybe we need to be a tad more specific. I get the idea of something insidious masquerading as something else will appear and "do(?)" something? Is "do something" the consideration? Inventory in the US is more and more are saying it's wrong that Syria used Chems. The action to be taken (why should an action be taken against a "wrong" maybe really is the philosophical spiritual) - that is the question now.

Why must an action be taken?

Obviously fear is the motivator in the viewpoint - but as others have pointed out, control is the underlying factor. Fear based control. If the viewpoint is switched to why should any knee jerk reaction happen to any thing... does that disarm anything or does it allow rampant out-of-control chaos?

So maybe (thinking out loud here), good control is needed, through appropriate spiritual education of consequences?

Bob


I think it is about understanding that I cannot be in two time streams at once. If I give in to the current events I am giving my energy to those that control those events. If I refuse to be deterred, I can select my own future. It is what is in the heart that matters. I want a new world and I will not allow anyone to alter my vision. I know a new world awaits us, one without control, without the "order" imposed by force for fear of retaliation or incarceration.
How that happens is not up to me, beyond staying true to me ideals.
That it will is the only point of leverage worth concentrating on.
Some day these ideas will be common knowledge - today they are used by our masters to coral us into their way of thinking.

[Bob]

Ernie:
cannot be in two time streams at once.

Hi Ernie -

OK I got it.

Some observations here. I agree, what is in the heart that matters is very livable, the only way to live in peace with oneself.


I want a new world

Worlds can be actualized. If a group is part of one's world, what is it that the group is getting into(?) as that sets up the tide that one swims with or against. Go with the flow or create a new flow and make a big splash.
Or separate from the all, and do something different. I think folks kinda do a lot of all of that at different times and different amounts.

I know if there is a negative potential possible, one can help others know something is a negative outcome potential and point it out to avoid doing things that are not helpful to getting experience.

I think the staying true viewpoint that you point out is good to keep going on the desires. It shouldn't devolve into a match between groups though - the thing about "games" on all sorts of levels seems to be how interaction has happened on the planet. I don't know if that is a natural thing, or if it just evolved that way - the strong best the weak, the well best the sick, my cat tries to best me when he eats the houseplants when he knows it bugs me.. (and I chase him and point out to him that he has his own greens right here and my plants are not "his plants" to eat any time he wants to jerk my chain..)

I watch my cat get bored, not having enough things to kill, so he wants to pick on me, even though he knows he won't win, it gives him pleasure. But I won't see him creating something amazing I guess cause the gene pattern isn't there to want to explore new potentials. His gig is focused on getting the chipmunk or groundsquirrel or rabbit, so that are his goals focus.

I suppose us humans have some interesting goals potentials, and when some "cat" appears out there who wants to "jerk our chain" cause he or she can.. well that gets old fast. And if it continues, sometimes folks just take out the bigger hammer and don't take out the hugs and hug them closer.

I kinda thought maybe we need examples of better alternatives to show there is more vibration in better hugs.. I thought helping to remove antagonistic microwave stress for instance would help to destress or discharge a space that is so tense, it would rather take out the hammer instead of taking out the hugs.

SO maybe what happens is up to US, trying to stay in whatever smallest way is possible to be in the ideal outcomes, to stay true to the ideals.

in kindness,

Bob

[Camilo]

For the time being, it seems like due to world wide pressure (are we being listened to?), TPTB are pretending to go along with the Russian proposal, to have the Syrian chemical weapons under international control, instead of attacking Syria. How long is this going to last? hopefully long enough until peace talks become the more acceptable option on the table.

[Redstar Kachina]

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