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avid
7th September 2013, 18:31
This year my 3 pines didn't flourish with new growth and are decidedly thinner - but threw off cones in mega amounts. Desperate times for the trees then. However - neighbouring pine woods are now turning brown - the trees are definitely dying. I checked up on aluminium resistance (due to total spraying from above) and it's apparent that pines are very susceptible to this poison. I am so angry, that our own trees are being killed by these chemtrails. Does anyone care? I've complained to my local council - and there is platitudinous response. No disease. Just ostrich-heads and of course they can't comment on the 'atmosphere' although they note my complaint. The council must admit that our parks and trees are dying due to the aluminium poisoning. STOP this insane spraying - we'll all get dementia and our plants for the survivors will be dead!!!! :flame:

Prodigal Son
7th September 2013, 19:13
Ah, but they're only normal contrails depending on atmospheric conditions :(

Maybe we should get tin foil hats for the pine trees too eh?

All kidding aside, I feel your pain, and for the pine trees too.

There are few things on this planet better than pine nuts... and the bears agree with me...

http://billdraker.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10002/_U8Z4918_Black_Bear_Cub.jpg

There are SO MANY SPECIES of birds, insects, and animals that depend on evergreens. Aside from the plethora of natural diseases they have to fight, they have no chance against these man made toxins.

This is why I have joined just about every chemtrail activist group I can find, and I walk around with signs like the lunatic that I am. If I could shoot the bastards down I would without blinking an eye, but they're too damn high!

Please God, bring to ruin those ruining the earth, as you promised.

Spiral
7th September 2013, 19:41
There are other reasons for "browning" on pine trees, there are treatments for it, and special fertilizers to boost their immunity, its also worth checking for root eating grubs & moles.

DeDukshyn
7th September 2013, 21:18
Perhaps pine beetles is the cause. I'd say your pines are throwing off cones like mad because they "know" something is wrong.

Massive pine beetle infection all across western Canada for the last 5 years or more. It seems to be getting better now but western Canada lost hundreds of millions of pine trees. These wee tiny bettles have been proven to be able to fly up and be carried by the jet streams - which means they aren't as "local" as everybody thinks. They can travel far and wide on these jet streams.

here is a picture with a small example of the destruction these little "buggers" can cause ...

http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hre/topics/mpb.jpg

avid
7th September 2013, 21:33
I know nothing of pine beetles in the UK - but that is fascinating thanks. We don't have moles - but definitely there is something dis-easing our local trees (and it's not just pines - it's old oaks - in fact every tree in our historic park is getting sick - elms/beech/ash/horse chestnut/cherry) I live next to a large grade 1 conservation park, and definitely things are dying off. Many large oaks hundreds of years old are recently dropping big branches. They seemed OK until the 'rot' set in about 5 years ago. Local Cherry trees have died in multiples lately. Again 5 years ago seemingly OK. Will go up to estate office on Monday to discuss this 'die-off' in the area. Thanks for feedback.

DeDukshyn
7th September 2013, 21:45
I will also report a fungus that infected hundreds of millions of poplar and aspen trees in western Canada in the last 5 or so years - it caused their leaves to go a silvery colour, and when you examined them it looked like a tiny thread-like worm was invading each leaf. This made me think about the symptoms of Morgellans disease in humans ... finding thread like fibers in their skin ...

In the broad, loose thinking of connections, I wonder if Morgellans isn't a fungus of sorts, and I wonder if it isn't sprayed ... and then I also wonder what has caused the Pines to suddenly loose their immunity to pine beetles.

Lots of questions, not many answers when you look broad at the problems facing our trees, and how these diverse problems may indeed be related ...

Food for thought ;)

Bubu
8th September 2013, 00:52
mushroom producing fungi can kill the whole forest

Sidney
8th September 2013, 01:01
lets face it. Aluminum changes the ph of the soil.
EVERYTHING reacts to that. Bugs, fungi, EVERYTHING. its the aluminum. Chemtrails and GMO are hand in hand killing everything, slowly. But you might try adding Mir acid. It may combat the alkaline change.


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nomadguy
8th September 2013, 03:55
Perhaps pine beetles is the cause. I'd say your pines are throwing off cones like mad because they "know" something is wrong.

Massive pine beetle infection all across western Canada for the last 5 years or more. It seems to be getting better now but western Canada lost hundreds of millions of pine trees. These wee tiny bettles have been proven to be able to fly up and be carried by the jet streams - which means they aren't as "local" as everybody thinks. They can travel far and wide on these jet streams.

here is a picture with a small example of the destruction these little "buggers" can cause ...

http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hre/topics/mpb.jpg


The pine beetles come after there is a problem. When a pine tree has a good immune system and produce a proper sap, beatles cannot burrow easy and their eggs they lay there die from the sap. So if the sap is no longer as it should be - a deterrent to beetles. Then it is an easy target, those bugs are attracted to trees that are weak or unhealthy. It's like a radio broadcast on a loudspeaker or on the bug network. So there MUST be something that is weakening the trees. I had originally thought, drought, then I ruled that out as I saw the cascade pine death in both wet areas with in drought prone areas where the trees are drought tolerant. It is not the amount of water. PH is a possibility, aluminum could cause that. Another thing aluminum can do is destroy the Mycelium networks that protect the trees roots. Trees are only healthy in healthy forests with healthy soil. - Where the mycelium is healthy you have healthy trees.

Colorado
http://www.zeeburgnieuws.nl/nieuws/images/forest_death_by_beetles.jpg
http://godlesscommie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/dying-forest-in-colorado_2012.jpg

Ellisa
8th September 2013, 06:12
I know it has been unusually warm in the Uk this year, but has it also been drier than usual. Trees brown off when water supplies fluctuate--- though often regenerate with rainfall.

grannyfranny100
8th September 2013, 12:33
Do you have professional arborists in your part of the UK? They are tree doctors with professional education and must pass tests to practice tree care. They can identify cause(s) and treatment if it is not too late.

As you can see, contributors here are making some educated but varying guesses without first hand examination. I don't think your conifers have time to wait for you to experiment with all these possibilities. Your trees sound as if they are ready for the critical care hospital if they were people.

I just did a gogole search and here is a site that list arborist forums for many countries: http://www.mdvaden.com/tree_forums.shtml and here is the recommended forum for UK: http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum.

Bob
13th September 2013, 02:12
I've observed this problem in Colorado, Idaho, Texas, parts of Kansas over the last 17 years.

I have tracked it back to a type of scalar assault which appeared about 18 years ago, and it took about a year for the damage to show up. Despite my warnings to the scalar producers of the effects, they insisted that $$$ was more important to themselves and teaching workshops so that others could do the same damage in the name of "doing good for the planet". The purveyor of the phenomenon died as a result of using their own devices, however, they planted these things in the states mentioned and setup shop in UK, Germany to continue to distribute and deploy.

The phenomenon is scalar in nature - the pine beetles do come in to try to correct the damage taking out the sick trees. So will the fungus and any other "pest" to try to deal with the deadly energy now present to try to get things back to balance - that is the "natural balancing" that Gaia does to get things back to that which will sustain and work.

Reich observed this type of DOR (deadly orgone radiation he called it) where he destroyed a lot of his surrounding forest in Rangely Maine. When I visited Reich's lab now a museum in Rangely one can still see the damage.

The solution was to get positive orgone into the area. The forests do rebuild when the DOR generating apparatus is removed. To remove or destroy the scalar apparatus is the other needed action.

That's the story that I have watched unfold over the last 18 years.

Bob

avid
15th September 2013, 14:22
Thanks again Bob - just posted a thread on how to make Orgonite. Great info from Zen Gardner.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/09/orgone-and-orgonite-a-primer-2762308.html?currentSplittedPage=0

Bob
15th September 2013, 21:25
Thanks again Bob - just posted a thread on how to make Orgonite. Great info from Zen Gardner.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/09/orgone-and-orgonite-a-primer-2762308.html?currentSplittedPage=0

Very good, it does appear its a DOR broadcast which is hitting it and had created the damage. Thank you - - - I think we need a champion to bring it to attention what happened, I am a bit overwhelmed here with the Storm in Colorado and the weather threads..

karelia
15th September 2013, 21:53
Avid, I encourage you to post on Bill's Heal the World thread so that healers who aren't too busy with the on-going projects can get together and work spiritually on this situation.

Planting orgonite will definitely help. I buried a couple of hundred orgonite muffins in the New Forest when I lived near there nine years ago, and it made a huge change to the energy; the ponies became a lot more approachable within a few weeks.