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ceetee9
9th September 2013, 14:04
The following is an email I sent out to family and friends yesterday and I thought it might be good to share it with Avalon--for what it's worth.

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Dear Family and Friends,

On the cusp of the 12th Anniversary of that infamous day, 9/11, I can’t help but feel we have let the fallen down in our complacency regarding that day and our rush to judgment as to who was responsible for the attacks and why.

Even if we can somehow rationalize away (or ignore) the mountains of evidence provided by eye witnesses and highly credible experts and professionals in their fields who refute the official government conclusion as to what happened that day and what caused the buildings to collapse, how can we rationalize away the fact that it takes weeks, if not months, for demolition experts to analyze a building's structure and determine where hundreds of explosives must be placed (and set off in a finely tuned sequence) to bring a building down in a vertical collapse without toppling over and destroying surrounding buildings, yet not one, not two, but three buildings were brought down in such a manner simply by fire (or so we are led to believe) only two of which were caused by jet impact?

There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of questions posed by highly credible witnesses and professionals that have gone unanswered regarding the attacks of 9/11, yet our government and its mainstream media continue to refuse to address any of them. Why do you suppose that is? Could it be because they don't want you to know the truth? What are they afraid of if their “official” version of the “truth” is actually true?

But perhaps the more important question to ask is: why do the majority of the American people seem to not care about discovering the truth? What are we afraid of? Could it be because if we learned the actual truth that we'd then have to face the fact that our government and the world is nothing like what we believed (or were led to believe) it to be and that then we would have to make some very hard decisions as to what to do about it? Each individual must search their heart and soul to answer those questions.

I submit to those who claim they care about the truth, if not for themselves then at least for the thousands of men and women who lost their lives in the 9/11 attacks and the thousands more soldiers who were injured or lost their lives in the ensuing wars to “get the perpetrators,” which is a more rational approach:
to refuse to look at any evidence that refutes the official claims and blindly accept everything the government and its mainstream media tells them—which is akin to going to the fox guarding the hen house to ask if the chickens are safe; or,
to research both the “official” evidence AND the contradicting evidence produced by thousands of highly credible witnesses and experts and then, and only then, determine if you think a truly independent investigation into the disputed “facts” are warranted in order to get to the real truth once and for all?
I think you all know where I stand on this issue. Where do you stand?

Here is just a small sample of facts:
Congress and the President created the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States on November 27, 2002—over 14 months after the September 11, 2001 attacks.
According to the 9/11 Commission Report Preface: “The law directed us to investigate “facts and circumstances relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001...”” By virtue of their own statement, it should be obvious that the government's true intentions for forming the 9/11 Commission was NOT to discover the truth regarding the 9/11 attacks, but rather to gather evidence to support their foregone conclusion that it was terrorists who perpetrated the attacks on the World Trade Center buildings.
Building 7 was not hit by any planes yet it too fell. According to the government, building 7's collapse was due to an office fire even though there has never been before or since any skyscraper that fell due to a fire.
Skyscrapers are designed, built and tested to withstand a hit, and an ensuing fire, caused by a jet aircraft. So how is it that not one, but two, towers could collapse from a strike by a jet aircraft? And why were there no odds ever provided for the likelihood of two such events occurring on the same day in the same place to two separate buildings?
WTC building 7 was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.
NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) admits WTC7 fell at “free-fall velocity,” but does not explain how that is possible unless it was a controlled demolition.
The steel was removed and destroyed in unprecedented swiftness before a real examination of the steel could be made. Further, requests by independent analysts to examine the steel were denied.
Hundreds of cars were toasted, some blocks away from the WTC buildings, with surrounding cars and even paper left untouched. What could have caused that? Certainly not a jet impact to a building blocks away!
On September 10, 2001, just one day before 9/11, Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, reported to the mainstream media that the Pentagon could not account for a “missing” 2.3 trillion dollars. While this was in the news months before 9/11 and it may or may not be true that the records were kept in WTC building 7 and many of those killed were accountants and other financial people who worked for the Pentagon and other government agencies, the fact remains that the government has never told us where that “missing” money went (12 years after 9/11) nor have they showed us how they've “corrected” the problems, incompetence and corruption.

References:
And for those who would like to learn the truth for themselves, here is just a sample of references to organizations and groups demanding 9/11 truth.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth:
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Scientists for 9/11 Truth:
http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/

Pilots for 9/11 Truth:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

Scholars for 9/11 Truth:
http://911scholars.org/

Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth:
http://mp911truth.org/

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report (including a letter they sent to Congress calling for an investigation into the “flaws” of 9/11 Commission Report – 2nd link):
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/#Letter
http://www.nswbc.org/Congressional%20Testimonies%20&%20Letters/NSWBC%20Letter%20Sept%2013,%202004.htm

Rethink911 Organization:
http://rethink911.org/

9/11 Truth Organization:
http://www.911truth.org/

IntelliHub: 9/11 Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out: “Does Corporate Media's 10 Year Cover-up of 911 and Blocking of a Criminal Investigation Establish Grounds for Accessory to Murder Indictments?”
http://intellihub.com/2013/07/02/911-explosive-evidence-experts-speak-out/

Consensus 9/11:
http://www.consensus911.org/

The 9/11 Commission Report: An Elaborate Fiction
http://911research.wtc7.net/post911/commission/report.html

The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Commission-Report-Omissions-Distortions/dp/1566565847

Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth (can you believe it?):
http://pl911truth.com/

The People's Voice:
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/09/02/question-2-for-9-11-smarties-where-did-t-2002

Freefall and Building 7 on 9/11:
http://911speakout.org/Freefall.pdf

Veterans Today: Inside Job: 7 Questions about 9/11:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/05/inside-job-seven-questions-about-911/

Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died in 2001, 9/11 A False Flag:
(Dr. Steve Pieczenik is a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under 3 Presidents)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag.html

Why the Military Knows Israel Did 9/11 (9:59 video):
(Former Director of Studies of US Army War College, Dr. Alan Sobrosky)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg

WTC Steel Removed: The Expeditious Destruction of the Evidence at Ground Zero:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html

The Journal of 9/11 Research and 9/11 Issues:
http://www.drjudywood.com/

The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11:
http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Pearl-Harbor-Administration/dp/1566565529

9/11 Investigate: 1400 cars fried on 9/11. Gov. Jesse Ventura talks about Dr. Judy Wood’s work on the Alex Jones Show:
http://911investigate.blogspot.com/2012/12/14000-cars-fried-on-911-gov-jesse.html
http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html

Project Avalon Forum: ReThink911 Billboard Towers Over Times Square (“Did you know a third building fell on 9/11?”):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62999-ReThink911-Billboard-Towers-Over-Times-Square---Did-you-know-a-third-building-fell-on-9-11--

Where Did the Towers Go? Dr. Judy Wood:
http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/

CBS News: Rumsfeld lost track of 2.3 Trillion dollars September 10, 2001 (2:52 video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObhIu5k3mww

CBS News: The War on Waste:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-325985.html

The 9/11 Commission Report (July 22, 2004):
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Question Everything!

Smell the Roses
9th September 2013, 14:32
I don't know very many people in my "real" life who are able to look at facts without emotion and prejudice. The one that I knew best who could do this died a couiple of years ago. He was a PhD scientist friend of our family who first got my attention back in the eighties by telling us of his research into plastic and how unsafe it was to microwave food in plastic, no matter how much "they" tell us it's safe. So then when two decades later, all of the info on BPA's came out, my view of him as a credible source was solidifed! When he then told us the moon landings were faked, I had to take that seriously too. I never got to talk to him about 9/11/01. My point in telling the story is that I am impressed that you sent this out to your friends and family. My closest family has indulged me by watching Loose Change and attempting to read a David Ray Griffin book. They don't come right out and dispute it, but they sure are afraid to go all the way to accepting the implications of the truth of who carried out these attacks.

What kind of response did you get when you sent this out?

Flowerpunkchip
9th September 2013, 15:16
Fantastic letter. I wish you were a relative of mine.

also... No black boxes survived... or was there just one black box which survived out of 4 planes?

ceetee9
9th September 2013, 15:24
What kind of response did you get when you sent this out?It's really too early to tell since I just sent it out last night. However, I have gotten two responses so far (both a thumbs up), but, by and large (and unfortunately), most of them don't respond to these types of emails--although I have had many say they actually do read what I send when I get to talk with them in person. I never ask any of them to believe anything I send out. In fact, I almost always tell them to question everything and to do their own research and formulate their own opinions. I think that's all any of us can hope for.

Spiral of Light
9th September 2013, 16:39
CeeTee, I applaud your efforts to bring these facts to those you know and love. It is a wonderful letter and presentation of facts.

I'm afraid I am limited to much less than this when speaking with my circle of friends and loved ones. When I try to initiate simple, short conversations or use leading questions, I am usually stopped and the subject is changed to something much more comfortable for those who don't want to hear and don't want to see. It is a very frustrating situation and creates a feeling of loneliness in my stand on this subject.

Atlas
9th September 2013, 16:44
Here I stand:

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Larry Silverstein admits WTC7 was "pulled down":
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sheme
9th September 2013, 17:04
My mind cannot refute the truth- once the actual possibility of "inside job" was confronting me-shock horror- "They" know who did it! They anticipate & contrive a revolution, this where the people win- we don't react - we don't bite. we remove the monsters with our votes. This is the only way, we must not sink to their level- if we do- we become one of "them".

I wonder what madness first caused decent folks to cross that line, what lies where they told, what scheme were they presented with, what coercion, blackmail, murder, threats? - someone must have said no to those blackhearts! To those that said no- they are true champions and martyrs of the people, they are immortal and the bravest of the brave. We will all know the truth one day.

sirdipswitch
9th September 2013, 17:36
My family and friends went nuts the day it happened, when I told them controled demolition brought down all three buildings, and they live by the govt explanations, to this day. Knowing that I still believe precisely that which your letter indicates, they would just delete it. If you have family and friends that would even read this, my hat is off to them, as being way above the norm. I am the family outcast for the beliefs that I hold and have not been to a family gathering, since that day.

I do now believe that Dr. Judy Wood, has come up with the most plausible explanation for what took place that day.

ceetee9
9th September 2013, 17:36
CeeTee, I applaud your efforts to bring these facts to those you know and love. It is a wonderful letter and presentation of facts.

I'm afraid I am limited to much less than this when speaking with my circle of friends and loved ones. When I try to initiate simple, short conversations or use leading questions, I am usually stopped and the subject is changed to something much more comfortable for those who don't want to hear and don't want to see. It is a very frustrating situation and creates a feeling of loneliness in my stand on this subject.I empathize with you. I have had my share of that as well, but now I just test the water and if they appear interested and receptive then I present more and more information. If they roll their eyes or give me some other kind of negative feedback, I just let it go. As the old saying goes: "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." Interesting enough though several of those who used to say oh, that's just crazy conspiracy theory junk, are no longer so quick to dismiss the information and are even revealing new insights they have discovered. There is hope. I just hope we have enough time for sufficient numbers to wake up before it is too late for us all.

Sunny-side-up
9th September 2013, 19:23
Great Effort there ceetee9, I will try to pass this info on, but not many contacts :(
It truly is dumbfounding how people (It makes me think, we who see are the humans and the vast majority of beings on this planet are walking, robotic, empty skin suites; empty phony walking schells!) just see and believe their governments and mainstream press, so sad, so many sleepers!

I have seen enough to say 9/11 False flag atrocity!

Tesla_WTC_Solution
9th September 2013, 19:26
You are very brave, OP.
When I started emailing my opinions to family I stopped hearing from them.

Lots of them are DoD insiders more interested in money than truth.

remember the old wisdom, "a prophet has no honor in his own house"

ceetee9
9th September 2013, 19:54
You are very brave, OP.
When I started emailing my opinions to family I stopped hearing from them.

Lots of them are DoD insiders more interested in money than truth.

remember the old wisdom, "a prophet has no honor in his own house"Believe it or not, I actually have a few friends who work for corporations doing DoD work and they actually listen to what I have to say. They don't necessarily agree with it all--and that is fine (I don't even agree with it all), but they do listen, provide feedback at times, and have shared with me some very interesting things that they know. They are quite bright individuals and NOT on TPTB side.

ceetee9
9th September 2013, 20:04
My family and friends went nuts the day it happened, when I told them controled demolition brought down all three buildings, and they live by the govt explanations, to this day. Knowing that I still believe precisely that which your letter indicates, they would just delete it. If you have family and friends that would even read this, my hat is off to them, as being way above the norm. I am the family outcast for the beliefs that I hold and have not been to a family gathering, since that day.I am sure I have some family and friends who delete my emails as well. They just think I'm an old conspiracy theory hippie, but I have not yet been banished from the family--at least not that I'm aware of. :hippie: :peace:

ghostrider
10th September 2013, 01:02
Where do I stand ??? My smoking gun is how did an entire building of steel get so hot to fall straight down and magically save the drivers license of one of the supposed highjackers , to be quickly found and broadcast on CNN ??? steel will burn but not plastic ??? thats all the proof I need that it was a staged movie with players in place to add to a terrible tragedy that changed america forever ... No matter what I say, my family is sleeping quietly and okay with the government knows best mentality ... so they are on their own ... wake who you can and don't fret over those comfortable in the matrix, everyone has their own path , no one can walk it for them ...

Tesla_WTC_Solution
10th September 2013, 04:37
Where do I stand ??? My smoking gun is how did an entire building of steel get so hot to fall straight down and magically save the drivers license of one of the supposed highjackers , to be quickly found and broadcast on CNN ??? steel will burn but not plastic ??? thats all the proof I need that it was a staged movie with players in place to add to a terrible tragedy that changed america forever ... No matter what I say, my family is sleeping quietly and okay with the government knows best mentality ... so they are on their own ... wake who you can and don't fret over those comfortable in the matrix, everyone has their own path , no one can walk it for them ...


Some things to think about in regards to 9/11

~Electricity is invisible
~certain wavelengths can melt steel while bypassing other materials
~a radio-based weapon bypasses most known forensic tests done on such sites as ground zero
~they won't let us radiation test the site
~John Hutchison talked about helical waves being able to warp solid iron
~once again, a simple radio signal can take out the backbone of a building
~our government is not only suppressing free energy technology but also suppressing terribly dangerous radio wave technology capable of destroying habitable structures and aircraft
~Where did building 7 go
~where is the gold
~why did this happen after FBI opened investigations into money laundering at WTC
~why have so many witnesses and whistleblowers and first responders died
~why have so many inspectors lost their jobs and developed strange medical troubles

9-11 all comes down to power in the wrong hands, but in this case, electricity.

Craig
10th September 2013, 10:39
I will admit that I have moved on with life in regards to 9/11, it is only with posts like this that i bring myself back to think about it, then i think about others, but the killer thing to me is WTC7 falling on its own accord. like WTF? we as a species were just stunned into submission about it, probably some devilishly fiendish plot where we are just so numb that we at the time couldn't see how it would be done on purpose and now to this day very hard to admit because what else does that open up?

I wonder what generations from now will say about it? Hopefully there will be future generations with the right for freewill and thought?

ceetee9
11th September 2013, 15:09
Russia Today News Declares 9/11 An Inside Job False Flag Attack! (Sep 8, 2013)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Vi5YHxsLI (12:06)

9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out (Free 1-hour version) AE911Truth.org:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw2vaEg (58:38)

9/11 Documentary on PBS (PBS Airs Explosive 9/11 Documentary):
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/9-11_documentary_pbs

“September 11 – The New Pearl Harbor” – Full Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk (1/3) 1:55:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75XiXvqxWUQ (2/3) 1:30:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCw1TjfNKow (3/3) 1:28:10

Reality Check: More Americans “Rethinking “9/11?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tSfwkKaUo (13:39)

9/11 Shocker! Half of Americans Suspect US Government’s Lying:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/09/911poll/

9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/08/norad200608
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frozen alchemy
11th September 2013, 17:36
Read 'The Anonymous Physicist', Ed Ward MD and Jeff Prager.

The towers were brought down by small tactical nuclear weapons, probably placed on alternating floors and detonated by remote control. Some of the largest beams in the basement and lower floors were probably helped along by thermite which explains what was found in the dust but there is no F'ing way that thermite was used to take down the entire towers, the ratio of thermite to steel would have had to be almost 1:1 and the towers would have looked like magnesium torches, too bright to look at, rather than the explosive (massive beams hurled 300+ feet sideways) event we so obviously saw. The immense amount of dust was produced by the residual moisture in the cement floors boiling instantaneously and exploding and the fascinating bits of evidence like the 'meteorite' and the horseshoe shaped beam are proof that temperatures in excess of the surface of the sun were produced for a millionth of a second.

While Judy Wood's discussion of the toasted cars and other anomalies was interesting, she lost me when she states in at least one interview that the falling people were flailing in a certain way in order to 'try to tell us something' about the weapons being used. No, Judy, they were pushed out of the building by people behind them trying to get near fresh air, and perhaps the motion of the building at that height from just the wind and the bombs going off at basement level. She's since dialed back on a Star-Wars type weapon in space and includes the possibility of nukes which are part of several country's arsenals. The residual heat production in the basement level for a full 99 days despite millions of gallons of water and Pyrocool, a radiation absorbing compound being poured on the ground, is further proof. Residual fission, just like Fukushima. There most definitely was residual radiation in the area afterwards but you have to look hard to find a discussion of it. (And if the EPA will lie about the 'air being safe to breathe', obviously NOTHING the government ever says on this topic will be truthful).

Ed Ward has an amazing website documenting the residual elements in the dust and the relationship between nuclear fission and nuclear decay and how nukes were the only possibility and he nails the evidence to the wall in true Martin Luther fashion. Case closed.

Oddly, the Richard Gage's of the world refuse to consider that nukes were used and instead beat the drum of 'thermite' singly. What, is it THAT difficult to wrap your head around nukes?

Some small detail correction from above prior posts: The 'driver's license' found was instead a passport, supposedly found by a passerby and given to a handy FBI agent. The flight data recorders from the Pentagon plane do not match up with the altitude readings necessary; the only evidence we have of 'hijackers with box cutters' was a phone call from the plane that the FBI later at trial said never happened; we've been shown only one video clip of Mohammad Atta going through airport security and the time/date stamp is in error, and we have NEVER seen any video of the other passengers getting on their planes. There were no Arabic names on the initial listings on the flight manifests, later explained by 'we didn't think it would be polite to list those names next to the dead people's names'.

Oh, and perhaps the biggest smoking gun of all? 'Lucky Larry' Silverstein's 'errr, fire commander' has yet to come forward and declare himself the guy that Larry talked to that day. There couldn't have been that many 'errr fire commanders' left after all those men were lost in the towers, shoulda been rather easy to hunt down the guy who had Larry on speed dial and called him up to discuss how to do his job with a building owner during the most chaotic and deadly day in NYC history, but that person has never been named...and thus Larry's 'and we decided to pull (the men out) and then we saw the building fall' is most interesting. He's never said this under oath as far as I know and if he has, perjury charges should be the least of his problems.

Research the 'meteorite' and the U shaped beam which was obviously heated while under vertical pressure enough to turn it into a piece of taffy and you'll really have all the evidence you need.

Short of waterboarding Dick Cheney, we won't know who really ordered it, oversaw it and pulled off the coverup but Americans are too busy waving their goddam flags and sending their kids to die in wars of avarice and empire to do that.

ceetee9
11th September 2013, 19:18
Good information 'frozen alchemy' and I will try to get a copy and read "The Anonymous Physicist" book you cited. Thank you.

My purpose (agenda) in creating this thread wasn't to support any particular theory of how the buildings were taken down, but rather to stimulate some critical thinking on the part of those who are still in denial and clinging to the official story as being true. Enough so to hopefully get a sufficient number of people who will demand that a serious independent investigation (not by, funded by, or affiliated with, the government) into all the questions and facts that have been raised and then hold all those involved totally accountable.

One doesn't have to be a genius to see what's going on in this country, but one certainly does have to open their eyes and take a look around.

frozen alchemy
11th September 2013, 19:48
The Anonymous Physicist is on line, as are the others, just do a google search for them.

And there's this also from Ed Ward: http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/update-witnesses-saw-people-vaporized-on-9-11/

Flowerpunkchip
11th September 2013, 20:48
I think the best way to make people question 9-11 is to avoid telling them who did it. I still don't know for sure myself. Mossad? CIA? Invisible government? 33rd degree masons?

I just tell people that the official story is full of lies and that there are many facts that the media do not ever speak of.

It's an easier way to get them interested.
Telling people it's an inside job scares the s***t out them. It still scares me a little.
I just tell them that I have absolutely no idea who did it and let them figure it out themselves by listing all the anomalies such as... building 7 at free fall speed, molten metal present for at least 2 weeks, Marvin Bush in charge of security, black boxes conveniently damaged or not found, Silverstein, cameras surround the pentagon but all we get are 4 or 5 poor quality frames, Barbara Olsen's so called phone call crap, etc.

Atlas
12th September 2013, 06:05
The towers were brought down by small tactical nuclear weapons
This is what Dimitri Khalezov's study says too, there are at least 3 related threads here on Project Avalon, see:

Dimitri Khalezov | 9/11thology - full version of my book is ready! Download it now! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62623-Dimitri-Khalezov-9-11thology-full-version-of-my-book-is-ready--Download-it-now--August-23-2013&highlight=Khalezov)
Started by Helvetic, 24th August 2013



My purpose (agenda) in creating this thread wasn't to support any particular theory of how the buildings were taken down, but rather to stimulate some critical thinking on the part of those who are still in denial and clinging to the official story as being true.

I wonder because some headlines claim that at least 9 of the hi-jackers survived:

"The name
[listed by the FBI] is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York," Abdulaziz Alomari told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper.

"I couldn't believe it when the FBI put me on their list. They gave my name and my date of birth, but I am not a suicide bomber. I am here. I am alive. I have no idea how to fly a plane. I had nothing to do with this."

But then, the FBI said these were not the same individuals...
(full story here: 911myths.com/Abdulaziz_al-Omari_still_alive (http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Abdulaziz_al-Omari_still_alive%3F))

KiwiElf
13th September 2013, 00:36
Add to the list the mystery "white airplane" seen and photographed circling the area at high altitude while 9-11 was going down - only one airforce in the the world has these - the USAF (an "E4B" - modified Boeing 747 Jumbo Jet, easily distinguished by an additional hump above & behind the cockpit) - and no, it's not Airforce One ;)

No mention of it in the "official report", no official explanation - in fact complete denial - and "it's classified".

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