Agape
9th September 2013, 17:51
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REVOLUTION RADIO
Tertiary Vision - Show Description: Friday Sep 6th, 2013
Guest: Eva Zemanova
Show Topic: The Bodhgaya Incident
That a giant craft crash-landed 80 million years ago in Bodhgaya, with its occupants needing to adjust to life on Earth. What are the ramifications of this?
We are on the brink -- how do the beings feel about this? Do they see humanity heading for destruction?
This event maybe connected to the initial seeding of humankind, on Earth -- if so, shouldn't science explore the incident?
Project Camelot Interview Page : http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/bodhgaya_incident/bodhgaya.html
Barry Kings' Bodhgaya Event Report PDF : http://projectcamelotproductions.com/mediafiles/Bodhgaya%20ReportFINALVERSION.pdf
Bases 16 series from Miles Johnston ( http://www.undergroundvideouk.com ) on the Youtube :
Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3NAOlgRNEc
Part 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_f4WMwl4k
Part 3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uw3cIplGy0
Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq5-9lzN6vY
Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXi2oiT6Wag
Ufocasebook 2006 : http://www.ufocasebook.com/etoriginofmankind.html ( article )
Kalachakra Teachings : http://www.dalailama.com/teachings/kalachakra-initiations
http://kalachakranet.org/kalachakra_tantra_introduction.html
Barry Kings' Blog : http://conspirator1uk.wordpress.com
http://thewatchersden.wordpress.com
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/
http://jandeane81.com/forum.php
Some freesfx and Sound Jay were used incidentally, in this broadcast:
http://www.freesfx.co.uk/
http://www.soundjay.com/
-Un-edited Archives at
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We've had good time on Friday, clear sound this time .. and more than 17 000 listeners ,
.. thanks to Alex and the Freedomslips team in backgrounds .
The situation and data is still locked , under cover of widespread conspiracy theories , and lack of more advanced understanding where my individual life is concerned .
All we could do to repair the state of human affairs .
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shadowstalker
9th September 2013, 18:41
Will be listening soon.
Tommy
9th September 2013, 20:34
Interesting for me in a variety of ways.
Alex was the former forum admin on Camelot Forum and also took care of some admin work.
Wishing him the best in his new endeavors :wizard:
Agape
15th September 2013, 09:40
Considering this a little follow-up on the matter ..
it has be made known that any 'tantric initiations' including the great Kalachakra Empowerment are to be kept secret . The way they are conferred nowadays proliferated in many ways where the protocols and procedures are concerned .
In old times , any such initiation was granted to limited number of disciples who were well versed in scriptures , achieved advanced state of meditative equipoise and were able to keep set of ethical rules .
The initiating master took full responsibility for their life and practise for those who entrusted himself to him .
Such protocols still exist to this day nevertheless , with teachings and initiations conferred to thousands of people at the same time, maintaing the same rules becomes difficult .
There are different sets of wows that have to be accepted from the teaching master before any such initiation,
first of all so called layman's wows for those who are not ordained monks or nuns,
these are similar to Christian ten commandments ,
breaking even one of them consciously makes the practitioner unfit for receiving the more profound teaching.
Here they consist of avoiding acts of killing any living creature , lying, stealing, sexual misconduct , abuse of intoxicants , harsh or deceitful speech, gossip , living vane and luxurious life style , hoarding material possessions , indulging in worldly enjoyments without sense .
Further on , there are Bodhisattva precepts to be wowed and accepted prior to such initiation that are to do with helping others in need, giving up own possessions and welfare for others, offering respect and hand to others no matter who they are and generally, helping them to return on 'right track' .
There are more than 37 such rules and enough to say that if you find yourself in position where you're the only person who can help to someone and don't ,
it itself is considered breach and infringement of your wows .
As if that was not enough, there is a special set of Tantric Wows particular to each specific secret teaching ( tantra ) .
It's important to state at this point why at all were those teachings ( tantras , where tantra meaning 'a lineage' or 'weave' , opposite to sutra meaning a 'thread' ) kept secret .
Many westerners or even uninitiated or wrongly initiated easterners go by that erroneous presumption that tantras have something to do with sex . This erroneous notion has twofold origin I believe, one comes from many tantric images of naked goddesses or Buddhas/Bodhisattvas sitting in so called Yab-Yum posture, father-mother embracing posture that is meant to represent the ultimate union of feminine and masculine principles within each of us ,
secondly , the error origins from many centuries of lasting corrupted practises who consider themselves tantrics and teach some kind of sexual rituals allegedly leading them to deeper understanding .
It needs to be stressed that they've always existed , mislead people and gave those original teachings rather bad reputation.
Why am I mentioning this at all is , there are secret wows to be honoured with respect to the initiating master , brother-sister disciples, ethical disciplines to do with particular set of teachings and without receiving those wows and empowerments from qualified master ,
gaining proficiency in those particular teachings is rather difficult to achieve .
To liken it to something is like if you would study elephant anatomy and behaviour from a thick book but would never meet living elephant . Whatever your meditation about it may bring will be far away from how elephants are .
Mentioning secret wows, one of them simply says that nothing that happens at the time of initiation or what you experience as an individual, must be discussed or disclosed to outsiders .
The only person who is permitted to hear about it is your own vajra master .
The same rule is contained in monks/nuns wows that too have to be accepted for the sake of higher initiation, even if you're not monk or nun. The rule strictly prohibits any Buddhist from boasting about their spiritual achievements, special powers, ability to communicate with other-worldly beings etc.
It's one of the core rules for monks and breaking it in open willingly and without remorse ( such as 'by mistake' ) leads to subsequent eviction from the ordained community .
That's why, you seldom hear monks or nuns talking about their experiences in meditations, special dreams, healing powers or any other powers they have ,
some who are known in the insider community and approached for lets say divinations or healing , still remain very ordinary people 'on outside' and never 'show off' what they know in public.
This rule has multiple meaning . Firstly, it protects peoples peace and meditation...because the moment you allow others poking their nose to your practise, you're vulnerable to intrusions and attacks,
secondly, the rule protects the community because any such 'special powers' do not necessarily mean enlightenment or being on 'the right path'.
Sometimes, and it's millennia old experience , people amass some sort of magical power through austerity , concentration , or any other miraculous means ..but as rule of thumb, do not posses the equivalent in wisdom to use them without fault and at the end , they're led astray, either to harm to themselves or the society .
That's how the East warned for many thousands of years from giving attention or importance to siddhis ( special powers, mental or physical ) , no matter how appealing and attractive they appeal to the world outside .
It's also the very reason why Buddhist monks and Indian Yogis seldom 'chat' about their profound visions and meditation insights , the least problem this will cause is leading many people to paying attention to such kind of phenomena as if they would represent true spiritual progress . There is also this well known process called 'psychic transfer ' when people connected to someone with certain inner experience start to see , hear or manifest things in their own minds .
There are powerful yogis in India ( in the West they could be magicians ) who are able to induce visions to whole groups of devotees at the same time, could be called 'mass hallucinations' .
Well, the reason for this short update from me is about those 100 thousand people attending the Kalachakra initiation in Bodhgaya 2002 , most of whom were monks familiar with the rules .
Even though the initiation as such was not openly conferred since H.H. Dalailama fell sick on that night and had to be flown to hospital on the following day,
still many of the people assembled had experienced something , on the same night , not all were consciously part of it , not all were on the same level of understanding however, even if few of them were as me ,
I don't think they would dare to breach the rule to talk about it in open .
It needs to be also added that very few of them received any technical or scientific education in their life and finding terms for some very advanced objects and phenomena in archaic language is slightly more difficult to do than it is in English for example .
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Agape
15th September 2013, 10:17
At the end , and that's my ultimate fear and impression about proliferating the whole contact event on various forums over the years ( and not that I could not judge where am i stepping to forwards ) is 'throwing pearls to mud' ,
which no way means that others experiences and insights are not truthful , useful and genuine ,
it simply means that they are qualitatively different . And because there is so many people claiming 'about the same' , the discernment over the internet depends more on literally style, name and fame of the writer , how much captivating is the narrative and so forth .
People who know me personally and who would be keen to help if the subject was even slightly easier have no knowledge that could move the situation forwards ,
those who considered themselves 'researchers in the paranormal' may have multiple experience but no solid ground to stand on.
It's becoming more clear that no one is actually interested in the data which in turn makes me convinced that mankind is not quite as ready as i thought .
The overall impression i get is as if I was trying to narrate a dream , not a real event which is how the global mass programming , the infamous MK Ultra arranged it to be .
It's sort of interesting .. but sometimes, feeling very tragical , being stranded in the middle of so called advanced human civilisation ,
completely isolated from everyones experience , left alone to whatever I wish .
Seeing my ageing mum who struggles with 'how to use Skype' after ten explanations,
friends who are afraid to talk to me because they expect some sort of abnormality,
who am I and what has happened is some kind of 'shame' not to be mentioned anywhere .
I have no family, no one to be with , no one who would feel close enough to me, makes me ask everyday, why am I here,
to tell them what they believe is 'stories '?
Why , I'm not a ghost, I look like normal person, just all that happened makes me some sort of 'untouchable' ?
I think it's only logical that I want to terminate this earthly existence , as soon as possible, there are 7 billion people on this planet, what is the use of me , being hurt every single day, all the knowledge and intelligence ignored, as if I don't exist,
so why should I exist among you when you don't need me .
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