Philip Corso Jr's Presentations on Roswell, time travel, and more

[karelia]

Cristian posted a great thread on Understanding Evil (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63175-Understanding-evil), and truth4me added a video on time travel presented by Philip Corso Jr. It led me immediately to youtube to find more footage of Philip Corso Jr, but I really don't want to dilute Cristian's important thread. But for those interested in what Philip Corso Jr has to say, here is a 2-hr presentation by the man:

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[GCS1103]

I read his father's book, "The Day After Roswell" and found it so enjoyable. Philip Corso went into great detail about his responsibility to put together the team that reverse-engineered the UFO and he identifies all the people involved. It was a very credible account of what took place after the crash at Roswell.

[Neal]

Here is Part 1 of the presentation where truth4me's clip came from:

Xcon 2004 - Philip Corso, Jr - The Legacy of Colonel Philip J. Corso
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[ghostrider]

I beg to differ about the concept of time, time is an illusion ... some of us understand it very well ... if the earth stops turning the sun stays in one place , how would you know what time it is ??? is it day or night ??? time is an illusion ... there is the forever right now , everything just evolves with the illusion of moving into the future ...

[mojo]

Thanks to the OP I'm happy you posted it.

[Freed Fox]

I beg to differ about the concept of time, time is an illusion ... some of us understand it very well ... if the earth stops turning the sun stays in one place , how would you know what time it is ??? is it day or night ??? time is an illusion ... there is the forever right now , everything just evolves with the illusion of moving into the future ...

No disrespect ghostrider, after all this is a common meme, but it doesn't appear (to me) to make any practical sense.

If this were true, and there is no time, then what is it that prevents you or I from being able to physically meet with people like Thomas Edison, or Abraham Lincoln? How can events transpire, lives begin and end, if there is only 'now'?

Whenever there is talk of time as an illusion, it always seems to begin and end from a philosophical standpoint, and never really addresses the issues which seem to conflict with common sense. By all means, I would like to understand how this idea can coincide with logic, if this is something that anyone here would care to tackle.

[Smell the Roses]

Thanks for posting this! I will start listening to it tonight. The short clip in the other thread raised many questions, so maybe this one will make more sense!

[Freed Fox]

Here is Part 1 of the presentation where truth4me's clip came from:

Xcon 2004 - Philip Corso, Jr - The Legacy of Colonel Philip J. Corso
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Whoa, Philip Jr. makes a huge mistake at around 28:11. He is asked about crop circles, and states that his father 'died before crop circles'. Even if his father did in fact die before they became 'mainstream' (not sure about the chronology of that phenomenon myself), that is simply not true, as clearly evidenced here by the words of Philip Sr. himself (mentioned at the very beginning);

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Possibly just an honest mistake, but it's strange to me that I would be more aware of his father's interviews than him...

[Bill Ryan]

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Watched the videos, and I'd be very interested to see more if anyone can find them. As best I know, he only gave a small handful of presentations, but there may well be others I don't know about.

Here's the big unanswered question for me:


If (as Philip Corso Jr claims) the Roswell crash was a 'gift' from the future (sent back in time to 1947 by us humans from 2032, thereby creating a new time loop each time it happens) -- how did this all start?

Notes out of interest:


It's very real for me that the Philadelphia Experiment -- which spawned the various Montauk Projects -- were experiments in time as well as in space. (The two are inseparable in a fundamental structural sense.)
Dan Burisch stated that the Roswell craft was a time travel craft from the future, containing future humans -- but said (as I recall) they were from 24,000 years in to the future. Not from 2032.
Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' said exactly the same thing as Dan Burisch, but thought (although he was not sure of the exact date) they were from 18,000 years in the future. See the very interesting section called 'Roswell' on this Camelot page. (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_2.html)
This diagram may be of interest, drawn by William 'Bill' McDonald, who Corso stated made the artist's impression that he shows:


(Higher resolution image here (http://projectavalon.net/Roswell_craft_and_crash_site_lg.jpg))

http://projectavalon.net/Roswell_craft_and_crash_site_sm.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

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See also this interesting thread:

Possible original photo of the Roswell craft (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3707-Possible-original-photo-of-the-Roswell-craft)

The photo in question (which was discussed on the thread, with much more info as well) is this one on the bottom left. Note that this is precisely the same spot described by Bill McDonald in the graphic in the post above.

It's clear that the object in the old photo isn't a perfect match for the craft McDonald drew, but I have to say I find it very interesting nonetheless.


http://projectavalon.net/Roswell_crash_site_comparison.jpg

[Atlas]

Do you see a similarity between this craft drawn by William Louis McDonald :

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/roswellcraft.jpg

and the German Lippisch P.13b below ?

http://www.alienresistance.org/lippischsketch.jpg

Which also looks like Kaufmann’s drawing :

http://www.alienresistance.org/kaufmanncrop.gif

[jasontorque]

I have been, purely coincidentally, listening to these videos and Linda Moulton-Howe, on the same / similar subject matter.

The story of who we are and where we come from is becoming clearer for me; the essence is somewhere in between all this:

Animal mutilations, time travel, the harsh environment of space, EBE's, Dan Burisch, Arthur Neumann, Pete Peterson, Corso, pseudo-political agendas masking commercial power interests, religion, environmental issues, mankind's instincts to survive, etc.

We are likely an experiment to serve a redundant purpose, not dissimilar to the requirement for EBE's. Our distinguishing and (unexpected) characteristic is our spirit.

Common sense curation of each other and our planet is perhaps our judgement day.

[araucaria]

Here's the big unanswered question for me:


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If (as Philip Corso Jr claims) the Roswell crash was a 'gift' from the future (sent back in time to 1947 by us humans from 2032, thereby creating a new time loop each time it happens) -- how did this all start?

Bill, this was the problem I was driving at below. I didn't have the 2032 date, but suggested 'possibly some time soon':






Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......
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Just for the record: I find Philip Corso Jr's presentations fascinating and credible. The ones I have archived report on what his well-known father (who wrote The Day After Roswell) never spoke of publicly when he was alive.

I've only heard two of Philip Corso Jr's talks, and I'd very much appreciate links to any more if they exist.
I think he is saying we don’t need to know more, we need to know less!

Time travel means free energy. You build a UFO with materials back-engineered from the UFO you sent back in time to 1947. When did you send it back? Possibly sometime soon. When were your computer chips invented? According to this circular scenario, they weren’t. :)

Where do we go from here? Perhaps we need to smash that time machine.

[Gardener]

What has always been my question is 'why do we/or they, need a machine/ship to move between densities? It seems counter productive. Maybe even locking in the matrix control loop. It suggests to me that all that will happen is to prolong the expiry of whatever perceptual controls that the matrix has in place.

I still feel, and no one so far has convinced me otherwise, that the great year and the grand cycles are moving into an energetic place where 'time' for the evil monolith is drawing to a close, hence the exponential attack on the collective psyche.

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[Gardener]

I suppose both can be correct, had we not had the crash the time travelers could have been 24,000 years in the future. After the crash, with some new technology that future came much closer.


Dan Burisch stated that the Roswell craft was a time travel craft from the future, containing future humans -- but said (as I recall) they were from 24,000 years in to the future. Not from 2032.

[araucaria]

I suppose both can be correct, had we not had the crash the time travelers could have been 24,000 years in the future. After the crash, with some new technology that future came much closer.


Dan Burisch stated that the Roswell craft was a time travel craft from the future, containing future humans -- but said (as I recall) they were from 24,000 years in to the future. Not from 2032.
Interesting thought, Gardener, but that would imply that the J-Rods evolved from presentday human form within a matter of a few decades, and from the standpoint of the present moment, are well on their way.

[Gardener]

That needn't be a sticking point araucaria, in a non linear universe the future is fluid, otherwise the idea of jumping timelines wouldn't happen. Its quite a long time since I listened to Dan Burisch so I may revisit. Dans testimony has a lot of sincerity behind it, as has Arthurs, so we cannot discount milab effects.

Interesting thought, Gardener, but that would imply that the J-Rods evolved from presentday human form within a matter of a few decades, and from the standpoint of the present moment, are well on their way.

[Smell the Roses]

What has always been my question is 'why do we/or they, need a machine/ship to move between densities? It seems counter productive. Maybe even locking in the matrix control loop. It suggests to me that all that will happen is to prolong the expiry of whatever perceptual controls that the matrix has in place.

I still feel, and no one so far has convinced me otherwise, that the great year and the grand cycles are moving into an energetic place where 'time' for the evil monolith is drawing to a close, hence the exponential attack on the collective psyche.

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Let's hope it's drawing to a close! Yes, this whole lop here wouldn't get to the other end for 19 more years (if 2032 is correct). So instead of a loop, I think the whole timeline has shifted several times since then. I mean let's hope we don't have to endure this nonsense until 2032 when someone builds this ship! I have tried several times to get through this video, and I just don't think I am going to be able to do it. ;)

[MrCardozo]

Perhaps, The time loop was done to mismatch all prediction data available, in terms of time space. A disruption on the time and space line means that all seers, wizards and so on will miscalculate any predictable outcome. It has been done before. Interesting to know that Philip Corso make a remark as a benevolent intervention which may be if you take in account my supposition. Well, I hope I maybe clear enough in my point or shall I need to elaborate more.

[Bob]

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Any more thoughts on the track shifting time travel ?

[Rawhide68]

Another good show by Kevin Moore, posted just after the one with Kerry Cassidy :clapping:
I never think I've heard Phil Corso Jr interviewed before.

They talk a lot about time travel & paralell universes not so much about the Roswell crash. A bit jumpy interview but still worth watching in my opinion.

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[Hervé]

Hi Rawhide68, I merged your thread with this pre-existing one :)

[AutumnW]

I think Corso Jr. is embellishing his father's work. There is no reason to think he can do his father one better through conjecture. His father's ideas have merit. Junior, not so much.

[Rawhide68]

Well, you have point, which in my mind only conclude that US tried to back-engineer the crafts from Roswell and Corona in the knots and bullts way. The only way to go at that time, after that we had Bob Lazar among others, and by 1963 according to latest interview with Phil Jr, thats when they had it operative, back in 1963-64

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[Rawhide68]

Shift it to time travel please, thanks (I'm still wondering if A go to B back then from now to future).. .

[Rawhide68]

One thing is clear to me, if you "time travel" is you dont.


All time is here and and present for us, Linear time is an illusion, we all agree on that ?
So there is no go from point "A" to "B" because your' e allready at point B, while still at point A, perhaps, a little, doH!

And colleageus in office ask me, "Why I'm not a married man living with with 2 (or 3) kids and a dog (cat is ok) and cars, (1 car is OK).

Obviously They think there is something wrong with me.
And if they say so they must be right, right?
Thats how a robotic I had became
But my 27 cicle of Saturn has finaly stopped, so I feel good about the future
So I struggle along everyday with a normal office work, and ,I hate it,
2018 I'm glad about that, It show signs of life is still within them.

[Bill Ryan]

Shift it to time travel please, thanks (I'm still wondering if A go to B back then from now to future).. .

Yes, done. :thumbsup: (The Time Travel (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?173-Time-Travel) section didn't exist when this was first posted.)


One thing is clear to me, if you "time travel" is you dont.

All time is here and and present for us, Linear time is an illusion, we all agree on that ?
So there is no go from point "A" to "B" because your' e allready at point B, while still at point A, perhaps, a little, doH!



Semantics! If a being comes from my future and tells me I'm going to win the lottery next week, and gives me the correct numbers to help me do that, then as far as I'm concerned they're a bona fide time traveler. :)

[Rawhide68]

As if it's of any interest to you readers, I do have a an experiennce going back about five years ago, wich has to do with reasoning, understanding that time is probably a big Illusion.
It was at my friends country house (by the way close to the nuclear powerplant in Studsvik) I don't think that influnsed me at all, but want to put it in.

It's hard for me to put it in letters, but I'll try to my best.
The fire was slowly dying out in front of me, sleeping on a mattress in front of it. I fell asleep in front of the fire, feeling worm and whole.

Please listen now!
There was Me living on another time planet in another body on another freaking planet, and at the same time I was aware of being in 2 bodies at the same time, for only a fringe of a second. And to experience that I LIVED PARALELL simulatnously Was big bang for me waking up.
Thanks for sharing..

I'm exhaused writing aboout it, I appreciate This Forum

[stevcolx]

I can't see the video interviews as I am at work but did Corso mention the IX-97 real Philadelphia Experiment?

[Smell the Roses]

Please listen now!
There was Me living on another time planet in another body on another freaking planet, and at the same time I was aware of being in 2 bodies at the same time, for only a fringe of a second. And to experience that I LIVED PARALELL simulatnously Was big bang for me waking up.
Thanks for sharing..

I'm exhaused writing aboout it, I appreciate This Forum

Thank you for sharing this valuable experience with us, Rawhide. It seems like there should be a way to have access to your whole experience, not just this one on this planet at this time.

[Bill Ryan]

I can't see the video interviews as I am at work but did Corso mention the IX-97 real Philadelphia Experiment?

Not as best I know. Can you say more?

[Omni]

It has been a long time since I read the book (so I could be wrong), but I am not aware of the late Philip J. Corso mentioning time travel and parallel universes. Could someone verify that he did speak of them in the book?

[Bill Ryan]

It has been a long time since I read the book (so I could be wrong), but I am not aware of the late Philip J. Corso mentioning time travel and parallel universes. Could someone verify that he did speak of them in the book?

No, he didn't. But his son did: rather wild and interesting stuff, too.

What they each wrote is here, btw:


Philip J. Corso - The Day After Roswell
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Philip%20J.%20Corso%20-%20The%20Day%20After%20Roswell.pdf



Philip Corso Jr - Dawn Of A New Age
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Philip%20Corso%20Jr%20-%20Dawn%20Of%20A%20New%20Age.pdf

[ichingcarpenter]

Another good show by Kevin Moore, posted just after the one with Kerry Cassidy :clapping:
I never think I've heard Phil Corso Jr interviewed before.

They talk a lot about time travel & paralell universes not so much about the Roswell crash. A bit jumpy interview but still worth watching in my opinion.

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I just watched this and found it interesting and worth my time.. I was on the fence with Corso for a long time sometimes leaning in favor or not.

Does anyone know what he's talking about when he mentions 'the black bag''....as proof?

[Bill Ryan]

Does anyone know what he's talking about when he mentions 'the black bag''....as proof?

He's referring to the black bag of documents shown a couple of times in the video.

http://projectavalon.net/Philip_Corso_Jr_black_bag.jpg

I just saw the interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cTmy-vwrns) (rather late off the mark!). I confess I found it a little hard to watch.

Kevin Moore, despite all his good intentions, did a pretty poor job. And I say that with no disrespect... my guess is that he knows it.

He tried hard, and was as earnest as a schoolkid, but just didn't know enough about the subject, quite often struggled to understand what Corso was saying, and jumped around while missing on obvious (and key) follow-up questions, seemingly often just not knowing quite what to ask next.

He seemed to be unaware (at the time) of many important open ends that Corso left dangling. Worth watching, but frustrating. I'd imagine that 80% of Avalon members viewing this would end up with as many questions as answers after an hour and 20 mins. I was disappointed. It was all a rare opportunity missed.

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And a PS, just noticed as I saved this post. In the video title, Kevin didn't even spell Col. Philip Corso's name right (one 'l', not two). It takes 30 seconds (maybe less!) to check. Nit-picky, of course, but there's something there about detail and background knowledge, which rather seems to kind of sum it up.

[Sunny-side-up]

Thought this needed a post of its own.
This is a very good interview with some very important info, connects a lot of dots

Here is a great interview with the son of Col Philip Corso. Some very interesting data re Roswell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cTmy-vwrns






Mod note from Bill: this was initially posted as a new thread, and then I moved it here. This Kevin Moore interview has actually already been discussed above by several members including myself, but I'm leaving it here just to bump the very interesting thread.

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[jaybee]

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Just watched this interview with Philip Corso Jr from 2020.... he says it will probably be the last interview he gives because, he wants to lead a quieter life now and there has been such a lot of hassle over the years since his Dad wrote 'The Day After Roswell' book.... the title of the video is a bit click batey (not that Corso Junior would have anything to do with that -).... he didn't use those words but said at the end part of the interview that, near to death, Corso Senior said he was sorry he wrote the book... the reason being because it brought so many problems to the family ... I don't think he would have been sorry to have actually imparted all the info but would have been sorry for all the hassle it brought in it's wake...

I don't have many exact time stamps but one or two with general pointers.... it was a good interview from Phil Corso Jr... IMO... you always get the feeling there is lots more that could be said (but isn't said) and that the Corso Family are party to some deep knowledge...

In the first part (somewhere) he says that the 'aliens' would raid military bases and take back craft or craft pieces -



around 21 mins - he waves a Smart Phone at the camera saying that we shouldn't have them - they were alien tech and basically too advanced for us - and I expect he's right about that and that's why Smart Phones can gather and store all the data so easily - take surveillance + brainwashing to whole new levels - including 'thought extraction' and are being used as the foundation of the new authoritarian / fascist take over ie the advanced tech is abused because the level of humankind isn't itself advanced enough...?


around 27:30...very interesting comments about powerful nuclear explosions - how there's the top bit with the mushroom cloud above ground - but there was energy data missing somehow that couldn't at first be accounted for.. because the nuclear energy went right through the earth and is connected to another dimension - (woah)
(me... is that other dimension within the earth operating at a different density...? and is that where the 'aliens' are coming from -)...


Somewhere in the interview it is said how Corso Senior wasn't just a very intelligent Military Man with a photographic memory - and that he had special 'abilities' Corso Junior declines to expand on possible Remote Viewing abilities.... and also declines to expand on a connection with Jeane Dixon who was a famous psychic who talked about political predictions including the assassination of JFK....


A very tantalizing comment was made by Phil Corso Junior near the end when the interviewer asked how he thought his Dad would view what's going on now and might he have a warning -

He relates that his Father said that.....'....the end comes from something we cannot even imagine...' (bit around 44:30)



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"I Made a Mistake": Final Words of Col. Philip Corso with Philip Corso, Jr. | Regina Meredith (48:57)



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Lt. Col. Philip Corso was entrusted with the future of human technology. The clues were stuffed into a filing cabinet and locked away for 14 years after the Roswell UFO crash. As head of the U.S. Army Foreign Technology Department, Corso was tasked with finding military industrial contractors to back-engineer an array of sought after technologies from the scavenged parts of the wreckage. But he missed one thing - the body of the ET. He says he made a mistake in not trying to research and understand the ET body, which was inextricably intertwined with the technology aboard the craft. He felt this pointed to our future.

Philip Corso, Jr. was witness to his father's life and has gifts in engineering himself. He informed me that this interview will be his last on the topic of Roswell and his father, who passed away in 1998. The release of his father's book 'The Day After Roswell' left his family ravaged with scandal and lawsuits as the military intelligence community attempted to discredit Corso, Sr. His story is larger than life with deep implications for our future.