Twin companion, brown dwarf or black hole - not a planet.

[samvado]

Because this issue comes up again & again I'd like to repeat the IMO *only* scientifically sound argument made for its existence, explained on this website:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org

In short: seemingly the wobble of the earth's axis that lets the "polar point" go round in a circle very 24.000 years can also and *better* be epxlained by a wobble of the plane of the planetary orbits (ecliptic). It would look the same from our point of view.

This can be calculated to be originated by a binary twin, either a black hole or a brown dwarf (because anything inbetween would shine and we would see it).

the aforementioned group of scientists went to great length to explain it all on their website so I just present the gist of it in regards to the ongoing discussion.

The main point IMO is the calculated mean distance, depending on the mass of the object, 0,06 x sun for a brown dwarf (bd), 6 x sun for a black hole (bh). (the actual size of both could vary but these are the most likely values)

The distance would be either 800 au (bd) or 1500 au (bh), the nearest distance in a *very* eliptical orbit not under 100 au for a bd and double that for a bh.

The maximum inclination of said orbit is also relatively small with 1.5 degrees, so artificial pictures are wrong that show a much higher inclined orbit.

This should put arguments made for "close to Jupiter" orbits to rest :cool:

It also leaves no room for a "Planet X" unless this would be orbiting around the binary, however even if it had an extreme orbit, like pluto, it would not reach near the inner solar planets.

so, rest in peace and be advised that all youtube videos showing "planet X" or "the brown darf" are lens flares or other technical abberations.

the math, which is really only 10th grade highschool level, can be found here:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/calculations/pdf/distance_calc.pdf

[Lifebringer]

Quantum physics people. Can you break it down some to layman terms. America is behind in science.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

This is actually really neat, and before my blog went down I made a visual aid introducing a version of this concept.

It showed a binary twin of the sun in negative. I didn't know it could be true! this is exciting LOL

I don't expect anyone to enjoy this, but:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9296/svr0.png

haha and it has something similar to the 2nd post on it too.

[samvado]

Quantum physics people. Can you break it down some to layman terms. America is behind in science.

This is not quantum physics. QP is engaging the super small, this could be relativistic if taken to the extreme, but as I said, it is not, just the good old Kepler's laws, a bit of Newton, 10th grade stuff really.

It would help if you asked specific questions. I dont really understand what you are not understanding.

[samvado]

I didn't know it could be true! this is exciting LOL


well, if you had actually **READ** my post you would have read there that the orbit of any of the planets is way OUT OF RANGE.
So this scenario can NOT be true.

[samvado]

There is one assumption made by these scientists that could throw a monkey wrench into their theory:

They asume the binary to have been created by the same accretion disc as our own system.

That of course need not be so: it could be a captured binary twin in which case the ecliptic would not be the reference for the orbits.

Also: none of them seems to adhere to the "electric universe" model which I kind of like. If true, the influences on our system by the binary twin would exceed gravitational changes. The influence could be much more extreme.

And another thing, if the binary is a bh there will be no planets in its orbit because any previously existing ones would have been likely destroyed by the explosion of their sun prior to the collaps to a bh. So absolutely no planet-x if the binary is a bh.

On the other hand, if the binary twin is a bd, that thing never started its fusion so any planet orbiting it would not have the benefit of a life supporting sun, no matter how narrow the orbit may be. If I recall correctly the theory goes that some alien race lives on planet X. Well, that would be a VERY poor choice for any spacefaring race and I very much doubt that anyone would select it with 300 BILLION solar systems to choose from in this galaxy alone.

So all in all probability looks really dim for the existence of a planet X.

[samvado]

funny how coincidence works.

I have come across this link which is from the early cass. channelings which I respect to a point (I am fairly certain Laura has since been going over the deep end)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_sol09.htm


but here is at least one error in it, the tme of publication was 1996:
the question of passage thru aphelion is answered here:

Q: (A) And it is going to happen within the next 6 to 18 years?
A: 0 to 14.

that would have been 2010 or earlier ....