Grim Scientific Evidence About Comet ISON

[marlowe]

PLEASE go to 15 minutes & 49 seconds into this video....IMO he proves that the Black
Death circa 1345-1351 was brought on by the Earth orbiting through the debris field of a large comet that caused massive crop failure and volcanic eruptions....The Bubonic Plague followed later.....a one -two punch...

In my next post I will post an opinion that we will orbit through the debris field /tail of ISON in the first 2 weeks of December.....& many believe we will certailly pass through ISON's tail in mid January.....This is a heads up....:flame:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JWyPTjrRY

[marlowe]

If you watch the first 4 minutes of this video the speaker claims that we will orbit through the debris field of ISON for 15 days betwen Dec. 1st and Dec. 15th....

I cannot confirm this but the best guess is we will pass through ISON's tail in Mid January.......It is a very long tail......



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIVUZcT7n0Y

[earthadvocate]

I suggest that you listen to Jim Mccanney,s science hour for more information on Ison
http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/JamesMcCanneyScienceHour_September_05_2013.mp3

[Spike]

If you watch the first 4 minutes of this video the speaker claims that we will orbit through the debris field of ISON for 15 days betwen Dec. 1st and Dec. 15th....

I cannot confirm this but the best guess is we will pass through ISON's tail in Mid January.......It is a very long tail......



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIVUZcT7n0Y





it will go by mars on October 1st not november 10th.

http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2013/08/24/nasa-reports-comet-ison-pass-mars-october-1st/

According to NASA, the Comet ISON will flyby Mars on October 1st as continues toward our Sun.

[marlowe]

If you watch the first 4 minutes of this video the speaker claims that we will orbit through the debris field of ISON for 15 days betwen Dec. 1st and Dec. 15th....

I cannot confirm this but the best guess is we will pass through ISON's tail in Mid January.......It is a very long tail......



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIVUZcT7n0Y





it will go by mars on October 1st not november 10th.

http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2013/08/24/nasa-reports-comet-ison-pass-mars-october-1st/

According to NASA, the Comet ISON will flyby Mars on October 1st as continues toward our Sun.

Interesting ...Jim McCanney is saying that ISON will pass by Mercury on November 14th...
which is the exact time of the drill concerning a nation wide electric grid failure....

[TODD & NORA]

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[marlowe]

My vote is that ISON is much ado about nothing, but it may be used to gen up fear and outbreaks may be attributed to ISON, but they will have nothing to do with it...that's my take.

That is what Jim McCanney is saying......He is also saying that ISON"s debris field is not going to pose a threat to earth......So I guess the OP video I posted could be accurate but ISON isn't the doom bringer that a lot of people

are saying it is....That said..McCanney is saying TPTB will shut down the electric grid soon to bring about martial law...probably in mid November....

[Bill Ryan]

My vote is that ISON is much ado about nothing, but it may be used to gen up fear and outbreaks may be attributed to ISON, but they will have nothing to do with it...that's my take.

I do agree: there's nothing to worry about here. It's just another comet.

[ThePythonicCow]

My take is similar to some of the other posts just above - this report is over hyped.

I just changed this thread's title from:


>>>SERIOUS Grim Scientific Evidence About Comet ISON/ Must Watch<<<to:


Grim Scientific Evidence About Comet ISON

[marlowe]

My vote is that ISON is much ado about nothing, but it may be used to gen up fear and outbreaks may be attributed to ISON, but they will have nothing to do with it...that's my take.

I do agree: there's nothing to worry about here. It's just another comet.


The comet isn't anything to worry about but the electric grid going down is a certainty according to Jim McCanney.........But maybe that will be averted......

I still think the original video is scientifically sound...I've read Uriel's Machine....But Comet ISON doesn't seem to be the Destroyer.....

Sheeesh..What a day.....:doh::doh::doh::doh:
....

[KiwiElf]

For those interested, here is a real-time, on-line tracker of Comet Ison with co-ordinates, distance from us and the Sun (roughly 397 million km from us as I type, but moving fast).

http://theskylive.com/ison-tracker

[ghostrider]

the guardians that protect earth will never allow a comet to destroy the experiment , too much invested in earth humans ... there are already plans unfolding to restart life in this solar system if our leaders stay on track to WW3 ... the terraforming of the moons of jupiter are no accident , member the huge storm and all the so called meteors that all hit in a straight line at exactly the same point ??? millions of miles through cosmic space and they line up and hit the same target on jupiter ??? ehmmm terraforming ...

[Mandala]

Another comet, another scare factor. I believe the threat is political not astronomical at this point. We are more likely to suffer an economic problem or an electrical grid problem, disguised as something else. Beware, and prepare.

[deridan]

the ghost rider is on the emerald planet now, and no doubt he'll always be somewhere near, as-long as this experiment heads to its final conclusion. Such a beacon you, THANK-YOU

[Gardener]

We have passed through many comet tails since the beubonic plague was around and although there is speculation that these viruses can come from comet dust, it has to be there to start with, and times have changed medically and immunologically since the dark age.

[marlowe]

We have passed through many comet tails since the beubonic plague was around and although there is speculation that these viruses can come from comet dust, it has to be there to start with, and times have changed medically and immunologically since the dark age.
I can tell you haven't watched the 6 minute clip of the Opening Post video......
but whatever.....:director:

[Wind]

Hopefully ISON might give us a great night sky spectacle later this year.

[The Truth Is In There]

We have passed through many comet tails since the beubonic plague was around and although there is speculation that these viruses can come from comet dust, it has to be there to start with, and times have changed medically and immunologically since the dark age.

yes, today people are killed in the millions who would get well again on their own, without "treatment". we don't need non-existent viruses, it's all in the mind. the only thing that comet dust can do is poison us.

[araucaria]

Just from the unmistakable voice, I seem to recall this guy bringing out a Patrick Geryl type video on what the planetary alignments were going to do to us on Dec 21st 2012.

[Operator]

From what I've seen it will be Mars that gets the brunt. So perhaps Mars isn't such a safe haven after all.

[miqeel]

Why is that whenever a comet shows up we get so many videos like this one, and many other outrageous theories? Elenin is a prime example.
Things are not always what they seem, that is correct, but comets, and the celestial phenomena in general are pretty well known at this stage.

[marlowe]

IMHO a lot of the posters on this thread are IN DENIAL......

We are going to have an apocalypse OR a police state.....
I prefer the former to the later......

FWIW I do not believe the good ETs are going to show up and save our skins

but Hey...If you want to believe in that GO FOR IT....:rolleyes:

I'll shut up now.....
except to say I'm going to believe in the Hopi ,Mayan & other doom prophecies
rather than buy into the cookies , lemonaid , and chocolate bunnies future :tape2:

[CarnageCandy]

What can we do about it though? nothing .... and if it does mean the end of the world, i say bring it!!

I do the same though - watched a documentary on 9/11 conspriracy - believed every word it was so convincing, its only later im questioning the 'facts' they presented...and have found many flaws in their view on it. But thats another story...

Maybe this is the way out of this awful place (sorry mother earth, you are beautiful, its the humans that ruin it) <3

[marlowe]

What can we do about it though? nothing .... and if it does mean the end of the world, i say bring it!!
<3

+ 1>.................................................................................
IMO Fukushima was the beginning of the end.....I do not believe some radiation eating enzyme can save the oceans....
We are looking at future generations with short life spans and birth defects..IMO....

[Nick Matkin]

Comet pills (https://www.google.co.uk/#q=comet+pills) anyone?

[CarnageCandy]

Well we cant deny theres been some freaky stuff happening recently....

[marlowe]

If you have the time I would suggest you watch the 1st 27 minutes of this video...then skip ahead to 53 minutes & watch the last 7 minutes....pretty
interesting bits of information & government secrets....imo
PS: Bill Ryan has about 2 minutes in the first 27 minutes ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrQmhhBbVuw

[ThePythonicCow]

If you have the time I would suggest you watch the 1st 27 minutes of this video...then skip ahead to 53 minutes & watch the last 7 minutes....pretty
interesting bits of information & government secrets....imo
PS: Bill Ryan has about 2 minutes in the first 27 minutes ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrQmhhBbVuw

This video, in my opinion, is an unfortunate mix of multiple videos, with no credits and with no conceptual framework.

The first 2 or 3 minutes are directly from the first 2 or 3 minutes of this video of Marshall Masters: NEW NIBIRU PICS::MARSHALL MASTERS LATEST vid, JULY 29, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOR2AKRxYEo). I could not find any credit given to Marshall Masters anywhere I looked.

I don't recall commenting on Marshall Masters works on Avalon, but I've listened closely to some of his work and I find it to be full of holes. Here's a reasonable debunking video of Masters: Sitchin and Marshall Masters Debunked (Planet X, Nibiru, Two Suns, Binary System) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCp36JUxsk), however that debunking video doesn't get into some of my own concerns with Masters -- that his calculations of orbital mechanics are nonsensical. Basically, Masters seems to be one of those "we can't see Nibiru because it's behind the sun" folks ... who seems to be unaware that if something with a multiple 10's of thousands of years orbit is behind the sun from us at one time in the year, it will be opposite the sun six months later, and at various points in between at other times.

The next segment of the above unfortunate video mix is obviously from an interview of Command Sergeant Major Robert Dean by Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan, again with no credits that I could find.

The very last segment of the above video is again the sound of Marshall Masters, though I haven't tracked down from just which video.

I do not recommend this video, though the gentleman between 23:30 and 24:30 does have a nice hat :).

[araucaria]

If you have the time I would suggest you watch the 1st 27 minutes of this video...then skip ahead to 53 minutes & watch the last 7 minutes....pretty
interesting bits of information & government secrets....imo
PS: Bill Ryan has about 2 minutes in the first 27 minutes ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrQmhhBbVuw
Bill Ryan is on this video solely to ask his interviewee a question. His presence is no guarantee of the overall value of the video, especially given that he himself has stated his position on this thread and several other places besides.

If, as Paul states, Sitchin is debunked, then Bob Dean's endorsement of Sitchin is misplaced. Not to criticize Bob Dean at all as a bona fide witness, but I have pointed out elsewhere that when he talks of an imminent celestial event, he misquotes his friend Sitchin, who emphatically puts it several centuries in the future.

If we can take anything from this video, it would be in the first two minutes, where we are told to pray. This does not mean pray before disaster inevitably hits, it means pray to avert such a disaster. This is precisely what we are doing at Avalon. RSA (remote spiritual assistance) here involves protecting Gaia from such disasters.

[marlowe]

If you have the time I would suggest you watch the 1st 27 minutes of this video...then skip ahead to 53 minutes & watch the last 7 minutes....pretty
interesting bits of information & government secrets....imo
PS: Bill Ryan has about 2 minutes in the first 27 minutes ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrQmhhBbVuw

This video, in my opinion, is an unfortunate mix of multiple videos, with no credits and with no conceptual framework.

The first 2 or 3 minutes are directly from the first 2 or 3 minutes of this video of Marshall Masters: NEW NIBIRU PICS::MARSHALL MASTERS LATEST vid, JULY 29, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOR2AKRxYEo). I could not find any credit given to Marshall Masters anywhere I looked.

I don't recall commenting on Marshall Masters works on Avalon, but I've listened closely to some of his work and I find it to be full of holes. Here's a reasonable debunking video of Masters: Sitchin and Marshall Masters Debunked (Planet X, Nibiru, Two Suns, Binary System) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCp36JUxsk), however that debunking video doesn't get into some of my own concerns with Masters -- that his calculations of orbital mechanics are nonsensical. Basically, Masters seems to be one of those "we can't see Nibiru because it's behind the sun" folks ... who seems to be unaware that if something with a multiple 10's of thousands of years orbit is behind the sun from us at one time in the year, it will be opposite the sun six months later, and at various points in between at other times.

The next segment of the above unfortunate video mix is obviously from an interview of Command Sergeant Major Robert Dean by Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan, again with no credits that I could find.

The very last segment of the above video is again the sound of Marshall Masters, though I haven't tracked down from just which video.

I do not recommend this video, though the gentleman between 23:30 and 24:30 does have a nice hat :).

In the first place Marshall Masters' video starts at 28 minutes and ends at 53 minutes & I specified that you skip that part of the video.....Yet the bulk of Paul's post focuses on that which I recommended you NOT watch.....[ edit : the first 3 minutes of the vid is Masters & then Robert Dean talks until 27 minutes ]:director::popcorn:
In the 1st 27 minutes of the video Dean talks about a Seal team investigating a large wooden boat on Mt. Ararat in Turkey and carrying away stuff found in the "Noah's ark" type boat.....& also Dean talks about large metallic circular objects found at the far end of a vast fresh water lake beneath the ice in Antarctica......
But Paul apparently doesn't find these things worth knowing and recommends you NOT watch the video.....

Around 800 AD Earth had a 360 day year but something dramatic happened and all major cultures on Earth changed their calendars to a 365 day year .....
Did Nibiru pass through around 800 AD...?..No it didn't ..:biggrin1:It was another celestial object that disrupted life here on Earth ...
I'm OK with the idea that what many intelligent truthers feel is coming is NOT Nibiru/Planet X....

But something is definitely coming IMO and that is why some people are relocating to Equador and other places.
and that is leaving out Fukushima ....which appears to be killing the Pacific ocean......:painkiller:

[Operator]

But something is definitely coming IMO and that is why some people are relocating to Equador and other places.


Up till now we are TOLD that something is coming. Every time somebody is TELLING me something I wonder how much
programming is interwoven. What is accurate and what part is deliberately (or not) malformed.

I have more and more the feeling that we are conditioned to believe something ... if you expect something it will be
easier to deceive you (if you are not surprised you will question less).

My avatar is actually all about this. When you observe make sure nobody knows that you are observing. That's the
only time you will SEE the truth. If they know that you're observing, or like somebody is explicitly TELLING or SHOWING
you, they have the opportunity to deceive.

There is an historical example where they had an army walk in circles to deceive the enemy. They knew the enemy was
watching and made them believe there were more troops ...

Don't believe somebody because he/she is an expert ... people can be fed the wrong information. It only requires
that they believe it to be true for them to repeat it.

I often only trust the initial information somebody gives. If they reach 'credible' status they will be infiltrated or compromised and
after that there information will become diluted.

[Nick Matkin]

Around 800 AD Earth had a 360 day year but something dramatic happened and all major cultures on Earth changed their calendars to a 365 day year ...

Is it just possible that the number of days in the year didn't change, just that cultures around that time developed better mathematics and observations and realised that their 360 day year was an incorrect estimation?

I admit that sounds unlikely as there were a number of civilisations that had very well developed astronomical observations thousands of years before 400 AD. Perhaps the reference refers only to the civilizations with the wrong estimates that had to make the correction...

If an event big enough to cause the Earth's daily rotational period to shorten slightly (or for the Earth to move slightly away from the sun giving more days to complete the yearly orbit) then this event would have been widely recorded by most if not all cultures.

So where are the writings describing this momentous event? It's only about 1,200 years ago and we have lots of records going further back than that.

Nick

[marlowe]

Around 800 AD Earth had a 360 day year but something dramatic happened and all major cultures on Earth changed their calendars to a 365 day year ...

Is it just possible that the number of days in the year didn't change, just that cultures around that time developed better mathematics and observations and realised that their 360 day year was an incorrect estimation?

I admit that sounds unlikely as there were a number of civilisations that had very well developed astronomical observations thousands of years before 400 AD. Perhaps the reference refers only to the civilizations with the wrong estimates that had to make the correction...

If an event big enough to cause the Earth's daily rotational period to shorten slightly (or for the Earth to move slightly away from the sun giving more days to complete the yearly orbit) then this event would have been widely recorded by most if not all cultures.

So where are the writings describing this momentous event? It's only about 1,600 years ago and we have lots of records going further back than that.

Nick

http://www.creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW12.htm

Brent Miller of the www.horizonproject.com explains when and why the calendars changed from 360 days to 365 days on one of his many appearances on the Coast to Coast AM radio show,,,

Main stream Academic science is afraid to touch the reason why the calendars changed......

[ThePythonicCow]

But Paul apparently doesn't find these things worth knowing and recommends you NOT watch the video.....
I certainly did not say all the content of the video was unworthy. But some of the content (such as that of Marshall Masters), the overall composition (or lack thereof) of the video, and the complete (so far as I could tell) lack of source references ... these aspects left something to be desired, in my view.

At first glance, another thread on this topic seems to have some good material: Twin companion, brown dwarf or black hole - not a planet. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63224-Twin-companion-brown-dwarf-or-black-hole-not-a-planet.)

[marlowe]

Around 800 AD Earth had a 360 day year but something dramatic happened and all major cultures on Earth changed their calendars to a 365 day year ...

Is it just possible that the number of days in the year didn't change, just that cultures around that time developed better mathematics and observations and realised that their 360 day year was an incorrect estimation?

I admit that sounds unlikely as there were a number of civilisations that had very well developed astronomical observations thousands of years before 400 AD. Perhaps the reference refers only to the civilizations with the wrong estimates that had to make the correction...

If an event big enough to cause the Earth's daily rotational period to shorten slightly (or for the Earth to move slightly away from the sun giving more days to complete the yearly orbit) then this event would have been widely recorded by most if not all cultures.

So where are the writings describing this momentous event? It's only about 1,600 years ago and we have lots of records going further back than that.

Nick

http://www.creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW12.htm

Brent Miller of the www.horizonproject.com explains when and why the calendars changed from 360 days to 365 days on one of his many appearances on the Coast to Coast AM radio show,,,

Main stream Academic science is afraid to touch the reason why the calendars changed......

I might have miss-remembered & the date of the calendar change was 800 BC rather than 800 AD....
But it doesn't change the fact that something dramatic happened in the last 3 thousand years that changed the orbit of planet Earth.....

And I still think the video I posted on the opening post of this thread is very well made and good food for thought...